NFL Rarest Penalties #3
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- (if any of the links don't work, check most recent video)
TalkSports Discord: / discord
Instagram: goo.gl/DerXkT
Twitter: goo.gl/ou6Rfv
Snapchat: savagebrick2
Gaming channel: goo.gl/vqRzn2
Archive channel: goo.gl/3dpp3v
Discord Name: Savage Brick#6101
Outro made by: @BlackoutCreates on twitter
Outro Song: AFX - 14 Cornish Spreek5b [St. Nectan S Glen Waterfalls Mix]
• Aphex Twin / AFX - 14 ...
Contact (business): If you want to contact me on business terms, use my business email (link in about section)
Contact (Personal): If you are a fan and want to casually talk to me or collab with me, contact me through either Instagram or Twitter, if it is urgent, then I will allow you to use my business email
(All rights go to the original leagues and their broadcasters, no copyright infringement intended. If I feature clips that you own and that you don't want me to feature, contact me via my business email (link in about section) and I'll take it down as soon as I can)
"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."
There will be a part 4!
Let me know if there are any clips you'd like to see in part 4!
BTW, does anyone have a full copy of Bears v. Eagles 2007?
There was a call once where the ref called a punter for trying to draw a penalty. Then that same ref called "giving him the business down there". I don't remember seeing them on your previous videos.
One I don't think has been used, unsportsmanlike conduct for calling two timeouts in one dead-ball period (usually it's an attempt to double-ice the kicker). I believe Washington committed this penalty in a 2007 game.
Love this series, can't wait!
@@whisperecho7815 I think also happened with the Lions/Bears game Thanksgiving 2021
in the Refrigerator's rookie season, he was put in on offense and got flagged for helping the runner for trying to essentially throw Walter Payton over the goal line. I believe it was on a MNF game.
Forget the call, are we gonna talk about how someone got thrown into another dimension? 3:38
That's what I thought the call was going to be about at first. Dude just tossed him like a rag doll.
It was the guy who the penalty was on, to add insult to injury
I hate when the physics engine bugs out like that!
@@HashimotoDatsu yeah they need to patch that in the next update :(. I got a damage bug 3 weeks ago and fractured 16 bones in my foot and ankle
(yes the second part is true lmao)
Your right king 33 was i lifeless body he got thrown to Jesus!
Holy hell i forgot Vanderjadgt almost fucked up a 29 yarder. Might've been the worst clutch kicker ever considering accuracy in non-clutch moments
How good was he in NON-clutch attempts?
Yeah, that showed in the 2005 playoff game against the Steelers. At least the Colts did the right thing and moved on from Vanderjagt and ended up getting a future Hall of Famer in Adam Vinatieri
@@theawesomeguy4128 he had the highest career field goal % before Tucker
He just coudn't stop himself from aiming for a CFL uprights rather then NFL ones.
You seem to have forgotten that Nate Kaeding exists.
I'll miss hearing Madden excitedly stumble and bumble his way through an explanation. He'll always be the voice of the NFL to me.
I got tired of him saying "the ground can not cause a fumble." Because that was wrong in every instance a player went down without contact from the opposing team. But it was apparently his favorite phrase.
I was confused about the sequence starting at 2:02 , trying to figure out what was rare about offside. Took me a few views to realize it was part of a 2-play sequence. The foul on the first play killed the clock, which is why the subsequent intentional grounding was not allowed.
And ended the half with the runoff.
OH OFC I was trying to understand that for solid 5 minutes
Here is Our Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
8 months later...Thanks for the perfect explanation
But the second they hiked the ball the clock started again, which means the spike was during the clock running.
There were several goofy blown calls in this lol
First watching that tripping call I thought the QB was penalized for tripping rather than someone tripping him, I laughed way too much at that.
"There is a flag on the play. Offense, number seven, being a big silly. Five yard penalty."
You should find the clip of Rivers kicking the ball in the Chargers desperation lateral play against the Titans. It’s pretty hilarious.
I still believe that you should be allowed to jump over lineman
you are, you just can't touch them
@@CasperTheGhost64 It's always called, though...
@@TheHooft if i remember you now cant even if you dont touch someone. i think in 2019 or 2020 they changed it cause to many players were getting good at it.
@@TheHooft You can't touch the lineman on the way up or down.
And having players end up in the hospital when a 250lbs player lands on you. Good luck.
The tuck rule was the most rare. I’ve been watching football for 50 years and only seen it called once
And the one time it was called is one of the most controversial plays to this day.
It was twice called in a Ravens play off game, 2001 Vs Patriots and 2010 Vs Chiefs.
@@zippymk13 it was called for Tom Brady against the raiders
Guys, Here is Our Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH So it's not God, not Jesus, not Yahweh, it's YaH. Good to know
Thank you very much for posting this. Until today, I don't remember ever seeing an "Offsides, offense" penalty in the NFL.
Here is Our Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaHhey man. Get a fucking life
@@Praise___YaH Zeus throws lightning bolts. Lightnings exists.
Zeus exists.
I dunno anyone named YaH, seems like some gen alpha bs.
3:39 I thought for sure when he slung him like a rag roll that would be the penalty 😂
Before I even clicked on this my brain went:
"🗣 LEAPING‼"
"WHAT KIND OF A CALL IS THAT⁉️"
🤣
When I used to play madden 15 a long time ago every time I was on defense and every time I moved passed the line. The ref always said False Start on the defense 😂😂😂
Thanks to Peyton, it will ALWAYS be "VanderJerk" to me...
"..idiot kicker.." LOL
Omg Vanderjadgt almost missed the second one too 😭😭😭😭😭
Cheese & RICE - some Crazy Calls... Not All, but definitely Some.
I remember the tripping one. I was happy to see that called.
That last one was ridiculous
Not really, the refs got it right
@@hypnoSpirA he didn't touch anyone until he was on his way down and the ball was passed him.
@@lnr12241 but that's exactly what the penalty is. "if he makes contact on the way down in an attempt to block the field goal", that's exactly what happened. It doesn't matter how far the ball had gone.
@@hypnoSpirA it's still ridiculous. Right or wrong is irrelevant. Calling that penalty on something that had zero impact on the play to alter the final outcome is ridiculous
@@lnr12241 I do agree that that penalty is ridiculous, I thought you only meant it in a way that insinuated the refs made a mistake. That's my bad bro
That first penalty actually happened in the first Eagles-Commanders game this season. Commanders player waved fair catch and took off. Refs put him back to the spot of the fair catch but didn't enforce a penalty. Place was going crazy (it was at the Linc and I was at the game).
Valid signal does not enforce a penalty. Invalid does.
@@RoyalMela I think the rule that applies is technically *Delay of Game*
Another penalty that's not called often is a delay of game on the defense. I've seen it called very few times
I'm not complaining but it's funny tripping is a penalty - pile drive them into the turf with your arms instead!
It's not the trip itself but that you are using your foot (it's not a penalty if you do the exact same thing with your arms). It's more to discourage kicking an opponent in any way.
that intentional grounding penalty was dumb. it wasnt like the caleb haine one, he just wasted a down and got penalized into ending the half
It was a penalty on the play which usually results in a stopped clock..since the chiefs declined they thought the clock would continue to run on the refs whistle
You know what they say, ultimately it’s up to the teams to know the rules. They have the same rule book available to them the refs do
Yes but this is something that doesn't happen in today's game. It's hard to know something when the clock always starts on the whistle
@@jameeskills8061 there's nothing easy about being an NFL coach or player, just because it's hard to know an obscure rule doesnt mean that it's wrong
@@jameeskills8061 the clock doesn’t always start on the whistle lol. That’s basic clock management. An incomplete pass leads to a stopped clock. A completed pass leads to a running clock. Very simple concept.
1:39 -- taking the 3 points off the board led to 7, which aided in going to overtime, which THEN aided in the Seahawks losing the game in said overtime 37-34.
If the clock started when the ball was snapped, how is the clock not running when the ball is spiked?
It's if the clock was running before the snap that's the deciding factor. Spiking is intentional grounding that's allowed to stop the clock and give time for the offense to get a play together. But if the clock is already stopped, then the reason to allow the exception for the intentional grounding rule isn't present, thus intentional grounding.
To use an analogy, as a first responder I am allowed to break some traffic laws responding to an emergency. The rules still exist, I just have an exception in this one situation. If there's no emergency, my exception doesn't exist and I get penalized.
Skowronek (0:31) doesn't need to worry. He now has 56 receptions in if an unspectacular career so far, and got his first NFL touchdown this season.
Illegal hideout? Wideout?
A player entering the game must come inside the numbers, initially. That is to keep teams from having someone just step onto the field and catch the defense unaware. There is another side to this, though rarely called. It is unsportsmanlike conduct for a team to use the substitution rules to try to gain an advantage. This would include at the lower levels of football at least, have a player sprint to the sidelines like he is leaving the field, and then stop and participate in the play.
@@billrobelen4948 yeah I had to Google this. I'm still confused though, as to why the Rams ran the play. Were they hoping the officials wouldn't call it? Were they unaware of the rule? Did the player line up not quite in the right spot? Questions, questions.
This article explains it better than I can.
www.footballzebras.com/2021/10/2-unusual-penalties-on-the-same-play-illegal-hideout-and-sideline-interference/
15 yards penalty for this act ?
@@aymeric2340 Yes. Almost all unsportsmanlike conduct penalties are 15 yards. The only exception is an act that is deemed to be a palpably unfair act. This would include a player coming off the bench to tackle a runner who has broken free of the defense, and is about to score a touchdown. If this occurs, the referee has the discretion to do what is necessary to nullify the act.
“Leaping!”
I don’t remember the teams involved but I remember an illegal simulation call where the defense was caught simulating the snap count. In 30+ years of watching football, I’ve only seen that once.
Wow. I thought I knew most of the rules of football, but that Illegal Hideout penalty got me.
yeah same
I still don't understand what he did that was illegal
@@Jake-zs1mv I believe that if you’re subbed into the game on offense you need to cross within the hash marks before a play is run. If you were in on the previous play it’s fine but if you’re just being subbed in you need to.
^^ pretty much this. I remember this live and he just popped off the sidelines last second waaay wide, which was why nobody was covering him.
@@badshot370 In the 2023 edition, it's Rule 5, Section 2, Article 5(a): when a substitute comes on to the field "...He must move onto the field of play or the end zone as far as the inside of the field numerals prior to the snap to be a legal substitution. If he does not, and is on the field of play or end zone at the time of a legal snap, he is an illegal substitute."
At 2:20, I do not understand the intentional grounding penalty against Mahomes because "the clock was not running." When did the quarterback become responsible for the clock?
As an Iowa fan, that first call for the invalid fair catch hurts…
The fact that he almost missed 2 times is pain
Here is Our Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH schizoposting
I will say the Offisdes on the offense call is a bit more called with the Tush Push
That last one was a good example of the league doing everything they could to help peyton win.
Wait why is tripping not allowed?
Tripping in cleats is a quick way to blow out your knee
2:15 but the whistle was blown to start, and both clocks were running??
the game clock was stopped until the snap, meaning mahomes did not have the exception needed to stop the clock legally with a spike
Can you explain? I don't understand.@@amarelo1767
bizarre what these officials "see" and don't "see".
Its really not considering their positioning and how many people they have to watch. We have the benefit of multiple angles and whatnot.
It’s a flag if someone isn’t covered on you? I’m confused by the flag on the rams
Illegal hideout...he was lined up too close to his team's bench. The rule is meant to prevent deception. He would not have gotten a penalty if someone from the Giants had covered him.
@@hipp0stratus well that’s fucking stupid
@@hipp0stratus Just to add, it is fine if the offensive player was in on the previous play, if the player comes off the bench, that is where the penalty comes in
@@rickhaavisto9023 That was the old rule, but it got changed a while ago.
"At some point in the 1980s, the NFL took out the verbiage about teammates on the sideline in close proximity to an in-bounds player. This made any offensive player - even those that participated in the preceding down - who is within 5 yards of his bench an illegal hideout, unless the defense matches up."
Why is tripping not allowed?
How about a penalty for standing there and letting a guy run into you. 2019 playoffs in overtime, offensive lineman for the Bills gets called for an illegal crackback/blindside block when a defender wasn't paying attention while chasing Josh Allen and ran into the stationary lineman. Cost the Bills the game. The league later used that play as a literal textbook example of a legal block.
not to mention the touchdown by the Bills special teams that got wiped off the board because the officials felt bad for Houston. To this day I still think that game was rigged
Leaping should only be called if you use someone to get a height advantage, not if you land on them. Also that should be a 5-yard penalty.
The reason it was added was that a tactic evolved to where 2 and sometimes 3 defensive players would dogpile the Center immediately after the snap. The intent was to get the long snapper thinking about 600 or 900 pounds crashing on top of him immediately when he snaps the ball.
Some of these are not so rare. Others I've never heard of, and I officiated intramural football.
0:32 That's gotta suck. Your first reception in the NFL is illegal.
“Tripping” is becoming more common (to be honest, it could be called more)
Has that intentional grounding call ever been called before?
I do not understand that one. The refs said it was a foul because the play clock was not running even thought the play was in motion.
@@davidteer80The penalty is because the clock was frozen at nine seconds after the the flag for Offsides was thrown. It doesn’t wind until KC starts the next play, which means the Spike is no longer legal. That + Mahomes being in the tackle box equates to intentional grounding.
I would doubt it. It’s an intentional grounding penalty caused by the clock being started on the Snap, rather than on the referee’s signal. Since the clock wasn’t winding down, Mahomes spiking the ball wasn’t necessary. That’s a 1 in a million kind of penalty.
@@gabepollock1641 does it matter if they declined the penalty??? Cz then that should start back up on the ready for play. Or since a penalty was called regardless it has to be on the snap?
@@SFCAUSTIN1995inside the 5 minute mark, all penalties regardless of enforcement stop the clock until the next snap, unless another rule requires otherwise
Don’t think i’ve ever seen an offensive offside call or “leaping”
Same here. Even the announcers were baffled.
WTH IS TRIPPING SENCE WHEN WAS THA A PENALTY
Tripping is when a player trips another one
Tripping has been a penalty for as long as I've been watching football and I go back to the late '80s. And I'm pretty sure it was a penalty 20 years before that.
“Leverage” shouldn’t be a penalty. I should be allowed to cheerleader launch you over the line to block a kick if I want
3:19 He's tripping because he is being held from making a play, both need to be called.
The only one which was a bad call was the last one.
That may be the biggest thing in this video.
Madden 2002 have all the loopholes like these
How rare is the leaping penalty?
4:08-4:53 Al Michaels 😂😂
Can someone please explain what an illegal hideout is?
It can be a couple of things. 1) an offensive player cannot lineup within 5 yards of his own bench, he must be at least that far from the sideline. 2) substitute players entering the game must cross the numbers when they enter. A player can’t just step onto the field from the sidelines right before the snap. 3) players cannot “linger” near their own bench in an attempt to deceive or confuse the other team with respect to who’s on the field and who’s on the sideline. I believe the call in this video was determined to be the latter.
@@mph7282 I think him waiving his arms made it a dumb call, but I get where it comes from
Second of all, why would they call an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty?
Funniest reactions from commentators
Aaron Rodgers could probably be called for tripping in almost every game now.
Leaping?! WHAT KIND OF CALL IS THAT?? Let me check the rule book here... hmm it says that if you do exactly what that guy just did, it is a penalty for leaping. Oh well I just won't mention that the officials were extremely knowledgeable about an a rarely relevant rule and I had no idea what I was talking about on air.
Of course we Raiders fans will never forget the, Tuck/Fu@k Rule.
Damn, awesome topic!
no one gonna mention the yeeeet at 3:38
Spike & clock not running?! That's absurd. It was snapped! That should be on the official time keeper, not the teams.
never let bro cook again 💀
The clock was not running before the play because there was a penalty. Therefore spiking is illegal. Spiking the ball is a specific exception to the intentional grounding rules written into the rulebook that allows an intentional incomplete pass to preserve time, but a.) the clock must already be running, b.) the snap must be taken under center, and c.) the spike must be immediate and without hesitation or double-clutching. You cannot spike the ball after a penalty, or an incomplete pass, or coming out of the 2-minute warning, or any other situation where the clock is already stopped.
Everyone needs to wait until the ball is kicked before going for the guy catching the ball, too often college guys are headhunting and targeting other players. Canadian football has a five yard halo, no headhunting.
hey good video like something to watch
I’m so confused. Tripping? Seriously? You can pull someone hair to bring them down but you can’t trip them? That’s a joke
Well, that's the risk of having long hair. Tripping has been a foul in football for as long as I can remember.
How did they miss D 55? 03:37
Offside… OFFENSE!?
Mahomes would be allowed to use a timeout to negate the 10 second runoff.
1:16 i still have no idea why there was a flag.
Man the Bears receivers don’t know how to line up properly
So they call tripping on Garoppolo but not on Allen this year? Hmmm, I sense a bias.
Complete BS that offensive runner hurdling a tackler will make a highlighr reel, but a defender jumping over a linemen is a penalty
Everybody including the refs are getting tired of mahomes schoolyard antics.
Iowa fans need to learn about #1.
Tripping is a penalty?
Yep...has been for a long time. You new to the NFL?
Rarest and dumbest.
Leaping and the intentional grounding interpretation that got Mahomes are quite simply rules that do not need to exist.
Intentional grounding is a needed rule. His action fulfilled the criteria for the penalty. You also get called offsides whether you're an inch or a foot across the line.
I get what you mean about applying common sense but this is professional football. Letting it slide just because it's a harmless instance just degrades that integrity and only draws an unnecessary line.
@@callmeshaggy5166 I'm not saying intentional grounding shouldn't exist. But there is a clear component of the litmus test for penalty eligibility missing on this play: "Is the QB avoiding a sack?"
Mahomes is in no immediate danger of a sack. If he wants to waste a down, he should be entitled.
The argument of "rules are rules" and that "the integrity will be damaged" holds no water with me. If the penalty is not consistent with the logic and scenario, the rule is bad and at that point the integrity is already necessarily harmed.
What if the Chiefs had lost by 3 or else and this obviously nonsensical penalty had impacted the outcome? That's where integrity failure lies for me. I am more accepting of officiating subjectivity than of blatantly poorly thought-out rules, and you will find most fans are as well - just look at the volume of complaints around "what is a catch."
An obvious and visible flawed rule (before you even get to the topic of ref subjectivity) consistently draws the loudest ire of the fans.
@@MikeDiAmoremahomes is entitled to waste a down, he just needs to knee.....
@@amarelo1767 Or he could heave the ball out of bounds. I've seen teams do that when they want to burn time but don't have any timeouts (i.e., to kill as much time as possible before kicking a late FG).
Two of these just don't make sense. If a kick returner gives an improper fair catch signal and runs with the ball, why is that a penalty? The play is dead. Spot the ball where he caught it to make the fair catch signal true. Don't penalize him for being indecisive. Second: if there's an intentional grounding penalty for spiking the ball when the clock is stopped, fine, but that should clearly be an exception to the ten-second-runoff rule. In other words, the referees should not be permitted to penalize a team for acting against their own interests.
By that logic, you wouldn’t be able to penalize someone kicking the ball from their own 1 out the back of the endzone on a bad snap…
@@rickhaavisto9023That's different. It would be a safety, and a penalty could be assessed on the kickoff. The team isn't acting against their own interests, because by kicking the ball out of their own end zone, they prevent the other team from recovering it for a touchdown.
@@pjabrony8280 Perhaps it could be argued that you are correct. However, a spike is only possible when the ball is thrown into the ground immediately after the ball is snapped and the clock was running before the snap.
If you take out the requirement that the clock be running before the snap for a spike, what’s stopping the QB from doing three straight spikes to burn clock without actually being at risk of losing the ball or yardage?
Imagine 1st and 10 at the opponents 20 yard line. The team with the ball is down 2 with 7 seconds left and no timeouts. If there was no requirement, the team with the ball could spike it 3 times and line up for the game winning field goal with no extra time on the clock.
Yes it is an extreme, but this is why you have to punish a team even if they are hindering themselves. Or if not outright punishing them, giving the other team the option of what is better for them.
@@rickhaavisto9023 There's no reason, in my opinion, why that team shouldn't get to spike the ball three times before the field goal to take time off the clock. They could accomplish a similar effect by snapping it in shotgun to the qb who runs sideways out of the pocket and hurls it out of bounds.
The penalty resulting out of this is defined as delay of game. Maybe that helps to understand why this is a penalty
That first one: You have to call two fouls then -- and I'm not 100% sure he even thought he had given a FC signal. So illegal signal and illegal advancement.
An invalid signal is not a penalty, not even a violation. It just got something to do with protection of the fair catch. Invalid or valid it doesn't matter, it kills the clock. However if u still advance it it's considered delay of game thats why it's a 5 yard penalty. Also one penalty would have been declined by rule if it were 2 penalties.
@@nexus4095 An invalid fair catch signal is a penalty.
The advancement is what makes it an illegal signal.
There's no rule stating in what manner a player must wave his arm. Even a half-hearted attempt is still an attempt.
Advancing the ball beyond natural momentum is the penalty, and it's a lenient one at that, as it could easily be viewed as unsportsmanlike conduct which would be 15 yards instead of 5.
Whats with the offsetting unsportsmanlike calls on the Rams punt? How is that rare?
It’s not that they called offsetting penalties that’s rare. Even though the referee didn’t explain it like he should have, the “rare” penalty was the Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Rams, which was called for ‘Illegal Hideout.’ Basically the Rams only sent 10 players out to the huddle, then when they lined up, an 11th player snuck onto the field from the sidelines in order to catch the pass. In other words, they hid a player on the sidelines to confuse the defense, which is a penalty, and a rare one.
@@matrixphijr oh ok, thanks for explaining
Could they cut down the defense to half as many players so the offense can be more productive? Cause leaping is a retarded rule. They do so much to make certain there is as little contact as possible in a contact sporr...
If tripping is a penalty, why hasn't it been called on Aaron Rodgers?
The tripping flag is BS. Seems like you're less likely to get hurt that way than someone running into you
Most of the special teams penalties aren't rare.
Im convinced these are just bad calls and not penalties except the tripping 😂 and the jumping over the o line
Tripping has to be the dumbest penalty.
So leaping to block a field goal is unsportsmanlike...wth?
Landed on someone and was lined up behind the line of scrimmage. Not really sportsman go jump on top of someone who isn’t looking. Could land on their ankles, Achilles, or cause injury to someone.
Under Section 3 (Unsportsmanlike Conduct), Article 1, section r: "Running forward and leaping across the line of scrimmage in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or Try Kick, or apparent kick, unless the leaping player was in a stationary position within one yard of the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped. A player who is more than one yard behind the line of scrimmage before or at the snap, may run forward and leap, provided he does not cross the line of scrimmage or land on players."
Tripping really isn’t a rare penalty
Leverage is not a rare penalty.
Man, vanderjagt was so bad
"Leaping" lol, more like the ref had to cover his over-under bet.
There were multiple questionable calls in that game, including awarding possession to Tampa Bay after a Colts onside kick attempt when there is not one single Tampa Bay jersey to be seen in the pile of players on the ball.
After scrolling through these comments for 45 min, reading the official NFL rule multiple times, and reading multiple articles about this exact play in this exact game…i STILL do not understand why Mahomes’ spike is intentional grounding.
Y’all argue about the clock like children all through the comments, but you're missing the biggest point. The rule states:
It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, *facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense* throws a forward pass….
How is Mahomes facing loss of yardage for any reason, let alone “pressure” from the defense???
He throws it in the ground because he (mistakenly) thought KC was declining the previous penalty and (mistakenly) thought that would cause the clock to continue running.
This is not Intentional grounding for the same reason it’s not intentional grounding when a receiver runs the wrong route, causing the pass to land 20 yards away from the nearest receiver. Because there is no INTENTION. The play is the result of a mistake, NOT an attempt to avoid loss of yardage from defensive pressure!
Further down the rulebook, in the section specifically about the spike, it reads:
“A player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time if, immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball directly into the ground.”
I mention this only because-how is this not an EXACT description of what Mahomes does????
And for gods sake, if nothing else-as far as I can tell, there is NOTHING in the rulebook that says you can’t spike the ball when the clock is stopped.
I. DON’T. UNDERSTANNNNNND and that makes me scared. Please help.
Illegal hideout? Wtf is that 😂 it’s called a trick play
No it's illegal. They only sent 10 men onto the field and when they lined up the receiver just dipped onto the field off the sidelines, ie illegally holding out a player. It's not a trick play when the play hasn't even started.
@@callmeshaggy5166 gotcha I didn’t see that the wide receiver wasn’t on the field at first
leaping
Mr PLANdemic loves NFL
Fucking leaping?!?
No, just leaping
@@williams_57 oh thank God!
It's to avoid injury. The lineman will just jump up but the defender running in will jump forward & up (usually) and can land on another player which is the reason for the penalty
@@catman-du8927 Yeah. To be honest, they should really just stop playing the game themselves entirely and instead everyone just watches them play Madden NFL.
@@TheParasitick1 They should. But if you want it to be played then doing things to avoid unnecessary injuries is smart
"Leaping"??? REALLY, NFL?
Whiskey... Tango... Foxtrot.
which one do you like
This just makes me remember how many dumb rules are in football.
Tripping is the dumbest penalty. You can stop a runner by grabbing his legs, but tripping him with your foot isn’t ok.
Correct that's also why linemen can't just legsweep each other to the ground or, as Antonio Brown found out, drop kick someone coming in for a tackle.
What is rare about an errant fair catch signal or unsportsman like conduct?! In fact , very few of these penalties are rare. Your title is bs click bait.
A lot of these are NOT "rare."
Offside, intentional grounding...some are just bad calls, there's nothing rare about so many of these 🙄
I'll bet an offensive player lining up offside and a case of spiking the ball when the game clock isn't running, the reason for that intentional grounding call, don't happen that often.