The original proponents of this device, McLaren, had their drivers use their left knee to block the duct, directing the airflow towards the rear wing. The reason it was nicknamed the F-Duct was because it was located by the 'F' in 'Vodafone.' Why everyone else decided to make the driver use his hand when they copied it I don't know. You could say it was a prototype DRS.
True ! Other teams where using their hands because the chassis of the car doesn’t allow them to put the air flow near the driver’s knee. It was easier to design it with the air flow near the hands of the drivers.
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The control these drivers have is absolutely insane. I guess being raised in racing since childhood means you can driving a f1 with one fucking hand mid race
@@reubenashok937 they most certainly did. in 2010 they did. look at the video they arent wrestling the car. they can go through eaurouge with one hand??
Agree, here in spain 2010-13 was special as we saw Alonso fighting for titles. People deemed cars ugly for those high noses but I really like them. Those noses look menacing in the onboards
these onboards are so fun to watch for all of the reasons you listed and more. The cars themselves were like 30% smaller as well leading to better racing imo.
Its not a bad invention, in fact its a quite genius trick, a sort to work around the regulations not allowing a moving aerodynamic part. But it is quite dangerous
Oh my lord these engine sounds are literally music. Last clip with Vettel in Belgium with the RB-6 full throttle going through eau rouge one handed. Just missing these masterpieces from Seb
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Vettel and Kubica was so good at it because they were always driving one handed pretty much all the time. They were the only 2 that used the F-duct so proactively up to the start of a corner while others had used both hands the moment they started braking. Kobayashi too, cus that F-duct placement was horrible. Can't even see his left hand at that point
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That's debatable. Sure it was fun to drive, but other than the long straights in the first few turns it was pretty shit, hard to pass at. Personally I think Malaysia remains one of the better ones.
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They don't have a gun to their head to make them use it there, they choose to. If they don't like it then they don't have to do it. These are the best drivers in the world, to them its easy.
I think that the F1 community got the idea of what an F-duct is after Alonso going through the final chicane at Barcelona one-handed. After that, all hell breaks loose.
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Its Amazing to see their driving basically with one hand especially when they’re fight for positions… Also is weird as Fu see Kobayashi and see he’s driving an BMW Sauber Ferrari 🤣🤣
Fun fact: The F-duct was first used by McLaren, and it is called like that because it was located at the F letter of Vodafone, who was their title sponsor at the time.
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The F Duct or how i say it The pre version of drs and if mclaren never introduce this we would have races with a handful of overtakes because its absolutely impossible to get close enough without drs hopefully this change with the 2022 cars
It’s sad that these cars are getting old, but it’s also a good thing since it increases the chances of non-F1 games getting the licensing to feature these bad boys
It ain't that special that they drive with 1 hand when you remember that they pretty much drove with 1 hand until the early 90's. Especially at street courses, they were always shifting with 1 hand and steering with the other.
If you know then why even saying it. The problem is that they have to do that with one hand while going more than 200km/h, way more dangerous than changing gears in old cars
@@ferst262 he is not wrong, the old cars were hard to drive but had different difficulties comparing to the current cars like the H gears and no power steering, remembering they did reach 330 km/h+ specially on the 80's turbo engine. Today the cars are faster on corners which causes higher g forces but the wheels are lighter and the car is safer
@@surneen and they still manage both tyres, fuel and energy deployment while going faster overall than old cars. It’s harder, but boomers won’t admit it.
I've been watching races from 2012 recently and I notice many drivers putting a hand off the wheel, although there was no f duct any more, does anyone know the reason. The only thing remotely similar to f duct I found online was Mercedes stalling the front wing when opening DRS because they had holes under the DRS flap, but that was an automatic system as far as I understood so no need for the drivers to put their hand off the wheel. The only other reason I can think off would be that they got used to it in 2010 but it wouldn't make much sense as putting your hand off the wheel only gives you less control...
do you have any videos for that? Have been watching F1 for a long time but dont remember that in 2012 and i dont remember any big "cheating/technical loophole" in 2012 concerning anything driver acutated
The original idea, made by McLaren had the drivers use the knee, which didn't "collide" with any function in the car, since both feet stayed in the same place either they used the F-Duct or not. The other teams just had to adapt what they had without compromising the crash tests. Also, since the device was banned next season, I don't think they spent that much time thinking about safety.
F1 added a brand new, state of the art facility to the calendar each year between 2009 and 2012, and it was always fascinating to see the new tracks for the first time. COTA and Yas Marina are still on the F1 calendar, but Yeongam and Buddh both hosted F1 for the final time in 2013.
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@@ferst262hahahah lol 2010 & 2012 exists mate Vettel won in competitive era. Max are literally dominant for the last two season so make sure u dissed him too okay😂😂
I know people say this was the golden age of F1 engines which I thought too, but some of these onboards sound downright droney. I guess power units will always sound weird to someone
F Duct is a loop hole that McLaren used for better car performance. I’m not sure about the specific advantage but based on what the others have said, its like drs but it can also produce downforce. In the cockpit, there is a hole that drivers need to cover to activate it. McLaren drivers use their left knee to cover it while the other teams that copied it use their left hand. It was named F duct because it is located on the f of the Vodafone livery of McLaren.
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GigaKubica making two overtakes with one hand is a thing of beauty.
GigaKubica driving the whole 2019 season one handed is a thing of beauty too
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@@manuelmunoz9666 why did he?
@@larsmooren2329 one of his hands injured in rally racing
@@manuelmunoz9666 No he wasn't. He addressed this rumor by saying he can use his hand, but it's hot garbage.
The original proponents of this device, McLaren, had their drivers use their left knee to block the duct, directing the airflow towards the rear wing. The reason it was nicknamed the F-Duct was because it was located by the 'F' in 'Vodafone.' Why everyone else decided to make the driver use his hand when they copied it I don't know. You could say it was a prototype DRS.
True ! Other teams where using their hands because the chassis of the car doesn’t allow them to put the air flow near the driver’s knee. It was easier to design it with the air flow near the hands of the drivers.
Because McLaren homologated their safety cell with the hole in it. The other teams didn't, so they had to punch a hole in a higher cockpit position.
I agree with you when writing it's a prototype of a DRS.
@@Spyker8921 Yep, that was it. For other teams to use the knee they would need a new chassis and homologate it.
But what was it really doing, it was flapping down the rear wing??
Vettel going practically onehanded, full throttle through eau rouge and blanchimont is not something i'll easily forget. Insane
130r for me
i'm also worried about that front wing flexing on those parts.. how did they allow that as well? xD
Watching some latest accidents in Eau Rouge makes you think it was very dangerous indeed
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Surprised the car was so fast when it had Vettel’s balls of steel weighing it down.
The control these drivers have is absolutely insane. I guess being raised in racing since childhood means you can driving a f1 with one fucking hand mid race
they did have assisted driving back then
@@defonotme2476 no they didn’t what are you talking about??
@@reubenashok937 they most certainly did. in 2010 they did. look at the video they arent wrestling the car. they can go through eaurouge with one hand??
@@defonotme2476 Wtf no they didnt have assisted driving. It aint that hard to turn that F1 Car when you have power steering
@@lucaschmidt1105 sorry to correct myself i meant power steering. thought it was obvious my bad
These onboard from 2010 are both satisfying and nostalgic to watch. My favorite era of F1! :D
You must've not witnessed many eras in F1 then. 1986-1990 - now that was an era!
@@amjan that's his opinion. Everyone has different opinions. Just respect it
Agree, here in spain 2010-13 was special as we saw Alonso fighting for titles. People deemed cars ugly for those high noses but I really like them. Those noses look menacing in the onboards
not even close to being my favorite era. fun era but not even top 30 best seasons i've watched.
Absolutely agree, obviously of the eras I lived and watched
Everyone always mentions Alonso..
But Vettel driving one handed up Raidillon 😯
mind blow
I know I spelled it wrong, edited LOL
Kubica driving one handed, not 1 time for 1 race, for years, every grand prix, every single lap.
@@3series35i hell yeah
Vettel doesn't need any hands to drive.
I love the look of the Bridgeston soft tyres with the green stripes
i don’t
Those are Bridgestone? I thought those were pirelli
Just watching them balloon at vmax is insane.
@@mountaingoat595 Yes, Bridgestone. Pirelli is since 2011.
I played lots of F1 2010 back in the day so these are extra nostalgic to me
These cars were absolute stunners. Looked good sounded good and provided the best racing, even with bad inventions such as the F-duct
these onboards are so fun to watch for all of the reasons you listed and more. The cars themselves were like 30% smaller as well leading to better racing imo.
Its not a bad invention, it just the place to activate is bad.
Its not a bad invention, in fact its a quite genius trick, a sort to work around the regulations not allowing a moving aerodynamic part. But it is quite dangerous
I don't see it to me these cars were awful looking. The disproportionate front and rear wings just made them look silly.
@@randomfaca it's each to their own, this era of car is my favourite looking
Oh my lord these engine sounds are literally music. Last clip with Vettel in Belgium with the RB-6 full throttle going through eau rouge one handed. Just missing these masterpieces from Seb
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Imagine doing 300kph through 130R but one handed
Charles Leclerc did it 2 years ago
@@gianlucadorsi9781 while holding his Left mirror with his Right Hand,
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Vettel and Kubica was so good at it because they were always driving one handed pretty much all the time. They were the only 2 that used the F-duct so proactively up to the start of a corner while others had used both hands the moment they started braking.
Kobayashi too, cus that F-duct placement was horrible. Can't even see his left hand at that point
Isn’t because they needed their left to down shift??
@@youtubechannel4137 While Kubica and Vettel didn't?
@@youtubechannel4137 depending on the car the paddles are actually a seesaws and you could downshift by pushing the right paddle in
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I miss Korean Grand Prix so much. One of the best Tilke Circuit ever made.
That's debatable. Sure it was fun to drive, but other than the long straights in the first few turns it was pretty shit, hard to pass at. Personally I think Malaysia remains one of the better ones.
My guy Seb casually going up Raidillon one handed
Loved the sound of RB6...absolutely glued to the surface!
The fact that not only are they able to sustain 4+ Gs while turning with one hand but to attack and defend as well mostly with one hand is insane.
Right! Wtf dude
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Going through eau rouge and 130r one handed, how was the f duct ever allowed 🤯
Because F1 is based on skill. If a driver didn’t feel safe doing that; they weren’t forced to take their hands off the wheel. 🤷🏻♂️
Because people weren’t so soft. Getting worse every day
Cause you do not use the f-duct in eau rouge...you would use it in the straight after but not when you need more downforce
@@FVRS97 they did use it there and in 130R
They don't have a gun to their head to make them use it there, they choose to. If they don't like it then they don't have to do it.
These are the best drivers in the world, to them its easy.
You know we've grown old now when we heard these cars were modern back then at 3:33 ,man time flies by quick
I think that the F1 community got the idea of what an F-duct is after Alonso going through the final chicane at Barcelona one-handed. After that, all hell breaks loose.
Taking Eu Rouge and 130R flat is a feat in itself, one handed is another ballgame.
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not only that look at the flexible front wing 0:03
Its Amazing to see their driving basically with one hand especially when they’re fight for positions…
Also is weird as Fu see Kobayashi and see he’s driving an BMW Sauber Ferrari 🤣🤣
Yeah BMW Sauber Ferrari😂
All F1 drivers drove one-handed until paddle shifters were implemented.
So?
Shifting takes less than a second and you aren't doing it mid corner
You don't shift mid corner though.
Seb the monster ! He deserves so much more respect
I guess it was good practice for Kubica.
He wasn’t driving with one Hand…
@@laugenbrezel_ was just a joke
Ahahah good one
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Fun fact: The F-duct was first used by McLaren, and it is called like that because it was located at the F letter of Vodafone, who was their title sponsor at the time.
Is it just me or did the Renault car look good? I miss these cars so much
The onboard camera is so much better without the halo.
tmb I tell you you have to have balls to do that
Peak era of F1
I loved that era of cars sounded so good
Seb was a freaking mad man. Eau Rouge one-handed?
Going up Raidillion one handed at +200mph...
The ultimate reason for it being (briefly) allowed was because it was driver operated. If it wasn't, it would have been illegal
Yeah it wasn’t a movable aero device which would’ve made it illegal aswell because the only movable aero device that was legal was the drs system
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Seb was literally driving with 1 hand 💀💀💀
Mom when I drive : please be gentle and do drive quickly.
2010 F1 : 1 hand on the steering wheel while taking a curb at 300kmh.
How do I watch the old onboards and races? I have the f1 tv subscription but I want to see every onboard but it’s impossible for 2010 on that app
The way they went about using it at certain parts of the track almost makes it feel like they just randomly turn on a cheat code for boosts, LMAO
Looks like a prototype of the drs that they are now using
Older drivers would be used to it tbf, 90s & early 2000s karts they had to cover the carb in braking zones
God dang their right arms must have been super strong after the seasons this was allowed
Doing eau rouge/radillon one handed? Na bro, not a chance in the world I would ever do that. These guys are nuts.
very innovative and cool
So they’re covering a hole in the side of the cockpit? Left side?
0:23 the back of his hand know's the f-duct though lol
Glad the decided to implement drs if they out right banned it there will be at least one team that finds a work around
The F Duct or how i say it The pre version of drs and if mclaren never introduce this we would have races with a handful of overtakes because its absolutely impossible to get close enough without drs hopefully this change with the 2022 cars
Kubica last season before crash, good old times
It’s sad that these cars are getting old, but it’s also a good thing since it increases the chances of non-F1 games getting the licensing to feature these bad boys
I would make a game based in 2010 of f1, hadn't ea or other have the license. Soon in 2025 another studio will, hopefully they will do well..
did no one but mclaren think of making it for your legs?
It wasn't possible, since only one monocoque homologation per year was allowed.
Thats some dangerous driving
what a negligent season
Good lord that sound...
Check the 90s v10s orgasmic sounds
@@yesmate78 The Renault R25 is the best imo
That Red Bull was.. awesome.
I just want 2010 back :(
god the sounds those old v10’s made is orgasmic
These are v8s
This system basically let drivers using Ultimate DRS
It ain't that special that they drive with 1 hand when you remember that they pretty much drove with 1 hand until the early 90's. Especially at street courses, they were always shifting with 1 hand and steering with the other.
The Lap for the Q3 in Suzuka 2010 by Kubica... No more to say.
0:52
Kubica practicing his driving style I see
I never noticed the drivers used the f duct before.
where can you get these onboards?
BMW Sauber Ferrari has the same energy as Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda
2:42 what track was that was it's south Korea, I can't remember. I always remember really loving that track on the F1 games
Never understood why it was a lever rather than a switch.
Kubica was amazing this season
How much did they gain by using it?
rb6 is a monster
RB6 was great on 1 lap pace, arguably faster than the RB9 in 2013.
Dangerous yeah..but remember in the past they had to switch gear (not the same speed as today I know)
If you know then why even saying it. The problem is that they have to do that with one hand while going more than 200km/h, way more dangerous than changing gears in old cars
@@F-Man classic boomer comment…
going straight with power steering is more dangerous than cruising in less safer cars with one hand?
@@ferst262 he is not wrong, the old cars were hard to drive but had different difficulties comparing to the current cars like the H gears and no power steering, remembering they did reach 330 km/h+ specially on the 80's turbo engine. Today the cars are faster on corners which causes higher g forces but the wheels are lighter and the car is safer
@@surneen and they still manage both tyres, fuel and energy deployment while going faster overall than old cars. It’s harder, but boomers won’t admit it.
Can someone explain me the Effort ot this?
This is what DRS should have been, allowed to be open and closed at any time.
ERS is already for that purpose
I've been watching races from 2012 recently and I notice many drivers putting a hand off the wheel, although there was no f duct any more, does anyone know the reason. The only thing remotely similar to f duct I found online was Mercedes stalling the front wing when opening DRS because they had holes under the DRS flap, but that was an automatic system as far as I understood so no need for the drivers to put their hand off the wheel. The only other reason I can think off would be that they got used to it in 2010 but it wouldn't make much sense as putting your hand off the wheel only gives you less control...
do you have any videos for that? Have been watching F1 for a long time but dont remember that in 2012 and i dont remember any big "cheating/technical loophole" in 2012 concerning anything driver acutated
Maybe changing the brake bias?
brake bias exactly.
@@KingFishF1 like schumi in monaco! that lap was mega
@@KingFishF1 But I think in some cars you change the bias on the wheel. If not all of them
That explain how kubica still can drive with one trashed hand
oh the sound
Im confused why are they using one hand?
I think kubica is driving in one hand because of his accident in the rally car
This was before
The original idea, made by McLaren had the drivers use the knee, which didn't "collide" with any function in the car, since both feet stayed in the same place either they used the F-Duct or not.
The other teams just had to adapt what they had without compromising the crash tests. Also, since the device was banned next season, I don't think they spent that much time thinking about safety.
And you probably don't need to activate the f-duct under braking anyways
@@J.H.P Yep, you need max grip available to make that corner without spinning like a mad man.
What kind of involvement did BMW have in 2010? I thought they abandoned the team, basically left them for dead after ‘09
Ok but how didn’t rob spin out at singapore in 2nd gear. Did they have TC back then? I can’t remember…
No TC in F1 since 2008
no. that was banned
How did teams figure out mclaren was using this?
Its like using drs with no limits
This is why Kubica was able to come back and be so successful.
man i fucking miss the high nose v8 cars
1980's cars were similarly fast, less safe and had manual transmission
No way mate, the only positive thing was that they were lighter. Otherwise incredibly rough around the edges.
Is it just me or did the car at 1:39 just spawn out of nowhere?
So weird
Sharp
The video quality was bad so I had to upgrade it and distant objects appear a bit later, that’s why.
Meanwhile Michael Schumacher didn't need F-Duct, he is the F-Duct !
The red bull racing not using f - duck
Why do u need 1 hand to f duct and what is f fuct
“If it’s not banned, it’s allowed” -whoever
The grandpa of DRS
2:34 what track is this
Korea
yeongam
F1 added a brand new, state of the art facility to the calendar each year between 2009 and 2012, and it was always fascinating to see the new tracks for the first time. COTA and Yas Marina are still on the F1 calendar, but Yeongam and Buddh both hosted F1 for the final time in 2013.
The drivers for one time doing what kubica did for years
Everyone except mclaren: *driving one-handed*
Fia: i sleep
Alonso: *driving one-handed*
Fia: real shit, banned
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Is it me or is this redbull rb6 looking much faster then other cars
They were narrower so they look faster.
They were faster, that’s why Vettel won so many championships. Just like the Mercedes dominance, it’s a car that has no competitors
@@ferst262hahahah lol 2010 & 2012 exists mate Vettel won in competitive era. Max are literally dominant for the last two season so make sure u dissed him too okay😂😂
@@zariqeezham9210 2010 and 2012 he had the fastest car and almost lost both of them…
Kubica and Vettel was the best one hand driver of that year....
Not even any Mclaren onboard :(
Because they weren’t driving on handed
can someone please explain me what the f-duct was, since i only started watching at 2016?
Changes the air flow of the car for better downforce in corners but better top speed on the straights
And it is called the f-duct because it was first seen on the mclaren car, and was located on the F of the Vodafone sponsor
2:28 seb showing who is the boss
4:29
He isn’t…
I know people say this was the golden age of F1 engines which I thought too, but some of these onboards sound downright droney. I guess power units will always sound weird to someone
Golden? V12, especially v10 would like a word
this might be a dumb question
if they need the duct to be closed then why dont they just block the duct anyway
They only need it closed on the straights to reduce drag, they need it open on medium and slow turns to increase downforce
so why not put a button to close it?
@@mekaben5124 that would count as a movable aero device which is banned by the rules
@@gregcandy3630 oh
Obviously never watched
Can someone please explain what f duct is
F Duct is a loop hole that McLaren used for better car performance. I’m not sure about the specific advantage but based on what the others have said, its like drs but it can also produce downforce. In the cockpit, there is a hole that drivers need to cover to activate it. McLaren drivers use their left knee to cover it while the other teams that copied it use their left hand. It was named F duct because it is located on the f of the Vodafone livery of McLaren.
@@xxtetsukuroxx4879 oh ok thank you