(SIMPLIFIED) Upgrade System Explained - Disney Speedstorm
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- In this video, I'm explaining the new upgrade system in disney speedstorm. I know it can be confusing, so I hope this helps you understand.
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Just to clarify that you will only need 10 Shards to unlock a Racer under the new system, just like in the current system.
Once you collect 10 Racer Shards, a Racer will be unlocked at Racer Upgrade Level 1. Those 10 Shards are then added to your Shard inventory. As stated in the article, in order to reach Racer Upgrade Level 10, you'll need to then spend 9 out of those 10 Shards along with 20,900 Upgrade Coins. Reaching Racer Upgrade Level 50 requires exactly 200 Racer Shards under both systems.
@@_LadyLondyni don’t think they can it’s not their channel poppin probably did
Yes, only I can remove or hide them. However, they've posted on both videos on the topic. Your response is saved on the other video. 🙂
@@poppinoftenwithlofton6036 yea this was my response directly to game loft. The other post is talking to casual players such as myself.
Still curious about that conversion rate...lol.
They made everything upgrade item into upgrade coins to make it easier to run out of resources faster while upgrading for example if you run out of glove you can just go and upgrade a speedster instead you run out of upgrade coins you’re dead in the water this also makes it easier for paying players to out level in ranked multiplayer and if they take out duplicating shards it can make it hard to gauge how many shards you’ve spent and how many you you need left making the new way there doing season boxes more confusing
I hope that the ranked prizes improve and that they are reset every season
They made everything upgrade item into upgrade coins to make it easier to run out of resources faster while upgrading for example if you run out of glove you can just go and upgrade a speedster instead you run out of upgrade coins you’re dead in the water this also makes it easier for paying players to out level in ranked multiplayer and if they take out duplicating shards it can make it hard to gauge how many shards you’ve spent and how many you you need left making the new way there doing season boxes more confusing
Thank you this makes it much more clearer. I have lots of characters at 4 and 5 stars that are below what they need tp be for new system so this is where my current resources will be spent to get them where they need to be. Thanks for uploading this video before we get the upgrade rewards from this current chapter because I cam maximise the benefit from these appropriately ❤ this is why you the best!
Np! It's best to use them when they are separated rather than to wait for them to be combined.
If a character is like 4 star level 20, I'd just leave it here. No need to stress.
If it's like 3 levels off though, I think soft capping it is a good idea.
Amazing guide as always. Appreciate you ❤
Thank you for making this update. I really appreciate the breakdown and follow up video!
Glad to do it!
the explanation king, thanks for this!!
I've been playing Speedstorm since the Aladdin season. I have most of the racers unlocked (the only ones I'm missing are Steamboat Pete, Stitch, Genie, Gaston, Ortensia, Wall-E, and Eve) and I've saved up a ton of upgrade materials from playing the Daily Boost challenge each day. I think that things that have really helped Speedstorm with upgrading specific racers are the Daily Boost Challenge (many of my racers have been upgraded because of it), and season boxes for specific racers in the Little Mermaid season. I'll have to see how the new simplified upgrade system compares to the old system when the new season begins.
The Old System (Current System) Rules!!!
I wish they would just keep what we have. If its not broke, dont fix it.....
The current way of progression is actually pretty fun. They are going to take all of the joy of using racers to get parts for different racers. Oh well, I believe everyone will just be at 40-50 by the end of next season with just a bout every character.
I think they plan on increasing level cap, then make events higher level. So it might be what they want.
LOL YOU DID THE OLD MEME!! HIPSTER ARIEL LIVES!!
Yeah that thumbnail is great lol! I got a little nostalgic seeing it :)
I love the video! I'm actually quite surprised that you didn't dive deeper into the required shards + upgrade coins needed per transaction, as they do change (even within the same 10 level range) - for example, the items needed to go from level 25 to level 26.... Or even to go from level 40 to level 41
Yea, wanted a simplified version of the change. Maybe I'll do something diving deeper in the future, but I think it might be better to see it drop and be official before I make something like that. 🤔
this is gonna get tougher then i thought
To go from unlocked character to to level 10, that's 9 or 10 individual transactions of shards and upgrade coins
I think it's 9+1 left over, then you use that extra to go to 10. With counting it did seem like you had an extra shard, however, I think it smooths out to not have it toward the end.
I believe it's just one transaction to unlock the character. Then you're at level 10 with a bonus shard which will be used later.
My Lvl 35 Jasmine will be rounded down to Lvl 30? Why? Just leave it alone and allow me to continue upgrading through the shards I have. They better compensate us with shards equal to the levels that were removed because I have a BUNCH of racers capped at 35 and 25, plus my recently unlocked and upgraded Jessie and Celia. Then again, I doubt they will do something that amazingly considerate.
I can't say for sure that's what is going to happen. But I know how they tiptoe through wording and when I call something, everyone doesn't believe until it happens. 😅
But again, I can't say for sure though so take that with a grain of salt. I just think it's the most obvious decision given the game isn't that technical to allow different accounts different type of special access to levels and stars.
However, I do hope I'm wrong cause this will be some next level stuff. We do know GL knows people won't stop playing/paying no matter what they do so, again, hard to say it wouldn't happen.
@@poppinoftenwithlofton6036 I would say it's more of the paying players, especially the whales. And if they can make quick transactions for levels/rank ups, we can only imagine how rich GL is gonna get D1 of the update.
@DeadwaveCarrier-oc1wo Oh heck yes, they are about to fine tune some deals and bundles like crazy.
If you give humans too many options, we won't choose any. Make it easier for us, we'll always choose.
Shard+coins, done deal.
Taking away levels from people who earned them, or paid for the shards is criminal. We’re essentially losing by continuing to play this game. Every update takes more away from us and makes the experience lack luster. We got really cool star chaser events with nice rewards for 1 week. Then they brought us back to a shitty reward system with little too no shards and materials. The characters for the star chaser repeats and it’s never really characters we’d love to see an event for. If they take away levels from players that rightfully earned them I’ll be sick. It’s like a punishment for enjoying the game, collecting alot and doing well. Disney is like yea no not without giving us more money. I’ve never paid for a character and I’ve unlocked all but 4. I’ve started in the Aladdin season. I feel players like me who are just good and have obtained so much without paying for it were the targets. I have 2-4 star racers, majority at level 25 with only 4 characters missing from my roster. This update is to make people pay more in the end we’ll see that we run out of upgrade coins eventually that’s the plan. That’s why you can purchase them with tokens and not season coins like you can now to buy materials. They just streamlined a way to make people pay for upgrade coins with real money instead of the money we make from grinding the seasons.
Upgrading should be my choice. I have characters I unlocked still at level 1. And when they have an event something exciting, it’s fun to pick up a new racer and start working on them. Their own materials, stars, events yea it’s challenging but that’s the fun part. I grinded Hades this season to unlock Gaston. I earned those 5 shards that unlocked Gaston for me this season. I haven’t even played Gaston yet. The joy was unlocking him, earning him, even if it did take a few months. Once again I’m 4 characters missing and never paid to unlock a single racer. Taking levels from me would really piss me and I’m sure others off. They are regressing us to make us work all over again.
Wow, good read. Thanks for commenting. Yes, I understand how you feel for sure. I've been here since day one so I've experienced some of this repeatedly. >.< That's one of the main reasons I speak on things so often and from the eyes of everyone else, not just myself. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. 🙂
@@HighLanderPonyYT so.. don’t. I’m not assuming I’ve been here seeing how these updates work.
@@_LadyLondynjust to be clear, GL has mentioned levels and progression you have will not be lost
@@andersalstrup3077 this is great news to hear!
I completely forgot about this game havnt even played it
So we still should upgrade characters to the soft cap? (Eg. 3-star characters to level 30 instead of 35)
And will the shards we already have on the old system still apply to the new system?
Yes, I'm not sure, but I feel they will roll back levels. If they do roll you back, I think they will give the exact materials to reach the level again though.
If a character is like 4 stars and you're level 20, I don't think it's worth soft capping. Only if they are close.
Once we have more info on what they plan to do, I'll share it though.
@@poppinoftenwithlofton6036 thanks for the feedback
I need 5 more shards to get my favorite character Figment. Do you think it Will be easier to get midseason racers under the new system ?
Getting the shards may not change. I'd assume everything about unlocking characters remains the same aside from the fact you need to unlock them with materials (upgrade coins). However, we don't know. They said they plan to talk about other stuff, so we shall see!
So best things you can do now is get your racers to a soft cap of lvl 20, 30, 40 or 50?
Yes, if you can. If the character is really far off from their soft cap
Example: 4 stars and you're level 20, I think just leave it there.
We don't know for sure what will happen, but it's best to use the separate materials now than wait for them to be combined.
If I am going to need levels to star up now, then what happens to my 5 star level 35 character?
You're going to need to use coins to upgrade, but you keep the stars. (until told otherwise)
So, Ive got a lot of the energy drinks and such. I wonder how much I'll get for those.
Thank you very much to explaining this. So formy level 25 characters...would you reccomend getting them to 30?
I am tired of all the different upgrade material, but I still have baited breath...lol.
If you're 3 stars, then yes, soft cap of 30. Then stopping is best imo.
Im in a serious wait and see mode right now. There are various areas im truly trying to contemplate, with 1 being a major concern.
1)(And this is the concern). Say my ariel is 5 star. I have 4 crew on her. However, her level is only 35. With this new update what happens to those crew slots? Does she suddenly just lose them? Drop to 3 star? Sure she'll still have her shards but that revert from 5 to 3...that's so harsh.
(These next 2 are strategy things)
2) In preparation for the new seasons changes do we now focus all racer boosts on level 40-50 characters as they have the highest level upgrade parts and thus the highest conversion rates?
3) and lastly i hear people talking about grabbing all the upgrade part they can...but did the rank change not show us that the conversions almost always suck and what is replaced in the reward track in ranked is at times better than what we would have converted too? Should we consider just stopping all leveling and just getting the new coin rates instead?
It was stated in the pit stop this is just 1 of the major changes. If this caused this level of shake up i cant wait to see what they have held off on and what else is in store!
Yes, all of what you're saying is valid. Unfortunately I don't have the information so I don't want to speak outside of term.
When I make content I always make sure I have some sort of fact to back up, so we'll have to just wait and see.
I do think if you're not on soft cap you will lose levels until you're at the correct shard ratio. You will get refunded coins for the regression, but you'll have to level up again to reach the star level.
Just my take.
In skylinerproduction's video it is theorized that those who had star up to a 5 star but not maxed out their level shouldn't be affected. It would be too much of a hassle if the system tried to take away the star ups.
So my guess is that they probably would keep the stars from the old system but indeed refund the shards to that specific character so they can be able to upgrade them still. If it wasn't that theory, then it can cause a huge outrage if they weren't refunded the shards from any 5☆ racer not maxed out yet.
Gameloft community manager specifically said if you like to play lots of characters you should level them up as much as possible BEFORE the patch and if you only focus on 1 or 2 racers you're better off waiting until after the change.
This strongly implies the conversion rate is gonna be fucking terrible. I'm glad they're simplifying the game but it's sad gameloft chose to screw the players again.
In theory, this is good. There are loads of different upgrade materials for each Collection, then unique ones to each character. Some of these you can earn just by playing, some you can't. As new Collections are added, this is only going to get larger and more complicated. Paring that down into one material for everyone makes it easier to manage, easier to sell and easier for players to upgrade who they want to upgrade.
As far as I can see the only issue with this is how stingy (or otherwise) they're going to be in handing out these coins from events. With 48 characters unlocked and all bar one at level 25 at least, I have ~4000 red and blue cans left over. Would I still have that from playing under the new system? I guess we wait.
I really think this change could make or break the game. If it stops the feeling of being unable to upgrade a racer past a certain point if you just have to spend time playing, great. If it takes so long to be able to upgrade that you feel like you're never going to make any progress... well, it's been fun.
Yes, that's the main thing I'm waiting on. I said the same exact thing in my previous video. I agree.
@@poppinoftenwithlofton6036 I promise I watched that video too, I only commented on this one because I was still trying to figure out the maths the first time 😓
LMAO 😂, no worries, wasn't trying to throw shade or nothing. I was just saying.
Even if you didn't watch it's all good. Now you done made *me* feel bad. LMAO 😂
Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to upgrade some of my racers to Lvl 30 before the update 👍
There's one question I still have though: What happens to 5-Star racers with a Lvl lower than 50? If they can't lose stars, what happens then? I'm asking because I have Mickey on 5 stars but Lvl 47...
I think you may roll back the levels or maybe have the character with stars and stuff, but have a hidden lock on the stats.
We have to wait and see, I'm curious too.
I dont agree with the new currency for the racers like its hard enough already gettin racer shards as it is esspecially when u need 1 or 2 more shards to unlock a new racer
I like the current system, having each collection with it's own materials. I have no issues because we have racer boost to get them. Another thing that keep floating in the air is the convertion ratio and how many upgrade coins we are getting by playing the game as we usually do, once the change is done.
Yea, I noticed their rations when they convert things are not that great. We'll have to see though, that's one of the things that'll make this whole experience a lot better for everyone.
Now we just need a way to spend all of our unusable multiplayer tokens on something. I just want to buy all of those cosmetics with multiplayer tokens instead of tokens you need to spend real money on.
I will say again, Poppin, i don't think the change is bad, in a way we don't will suffer to have useless and repetitive upgrade materials, this time we simple choose the character we want to level up just thinking about having enought Shards and Upgrade Coins but i feel skeptical by how exactly Gameloft will deal with the convert rate and the general rewards on S7, the fact that AJ brings a lot of infos about the change but don't say anything for convert rates and overlevel racers is a red flag for me.
I think the change is one of those in the beauty of the beholder. It's good for some and not others, but that's really how it's always been. On paper, it seems great for all, but when implemented it's never the case. I shared my thoughts on the types of players at the end.
I do think the transition will be smoother if they have good conversion rates as well as an excess source of coins. (at least at the start of the switch and for newer players down the road)
I am a F2P player. I didn't spend money on the game and managed to enable 48 characters. There are almost 500 hours of gameplay.
I don't think these changes will be for the better. I honestly think it's time to stop playing.
Oh wow, now that's dedication. Respect for real.
I wont be able to get Jasmine to level 50 in time.
I think it'd be cool to get a level boost if your stars are higher than the level needed. That would make sense, but I really don't think that's the case with Gameloft and how they've been running speedstorm.
Usually when a change happens, we're never really compensated for the change so to speak. We'll have to see on drop though.
i hope this doesnt kill the game
I have pretty much stopped playing due to all the changes. I feel like this game is now a sinking money pit. In order to get anywhere, you need to pay unless you have been fortunate enough to be here from day 1
Thats fucking dirty, i hate it when developers fuck over free to play players just to ger them to purchase things, especially when it is a multiplayer game like this that needs more people, it's just down right greedy.
It should not be hard to be a new or free to play player that just ain't right.
Hey Poppin, you are incorrect about not losing stars.
If you are a lvl 35 5* you will be forced down to a lvl 35 3* losing not only your stars, but also 2 crew slots.
What Gameloft says is that your shards won't be taken away, not your stars. You will then need to pay this mythical currency to crawl your way up to 4* at lvl 40 and you won't have access to your 4th crew slot until your character is lvl 50.
That's interesting 🤔.I was going off what AJ posted.
Thanks for sharing with us! Where is your source from by the way?
I quote (from AJ) "No one will lose star levels or shards at all". That's what I was speaking on in the video.
@@poppinoftenwithlofton6036
The new system locks shards and levels together. If you have a level 35 5* character, you will either have to have it converted to a lvl 50 5* or a lvl 35 3*.
A.J. said further in the discord, when explaining the situation, you wouldn't lose shards, you just wouldn't need to collect more shards. You will still have the shards, they just won't become effective until you pay the mythical currency to lvl up your character.
It seems to be something like this:
0-9:......0* 0 crew
10-19...1* (0 - 1) crew
20-29...2* 1 crew
30-39...3* 2 crew
40-49...4* 3 crew
50........5* 4 crew
It would seem Gameloft is trying very hard to avoid framing things by way of what players will lose.
But it seems it is impossible in the new system to disconnect Level and Star Status. You cannot be, in the new system, a lvl 25 5* you can only be a lvl 25 2*. Players will not be losing their shards, but they will become ineffective until paired with the appropriate number of mythical upgrade currency.
A.J. did tell me that he would be getting updates on crew slots, and that will be the determining factor. If players lose crew slots, they lose stars.
@remmingtonsteele2287 Yes, I said that in my video haha. That's why I said to level to the new system soft cap. 🙂
@@remmingtonsteele2287GL said you will not lose progression so it is my understanding at this time no stars or levels you have will be lost. Stars is a part of racer progression so i dont think that your existing stars will be affected. Its possible that they might grandfather in existing progress to sone degree. Saying otherwise at this point without information to support that is speculation so i think its better to wait and see
thats what i say and think. GL didnt gift us free levels if we have already 5*. They steal our *, giving our shards back and now we need the new currency or pay again money, because as they say, if you have the shards but not the currency you can use tokens. So we can hold our level, but loose our stars with there power. So we become a nerf and a new p2w-system... The convert-rate for the ressources, you can forget about it. Yes unuseable stuff goes now usable but look how much the convert is for duplicate shards or gold season coins to blue tokens... If you have overall 10k energies and other stuff you become only maybe 1000 new coins... You never get the real amount of its value... As a example, you need 120 energies and so to level up from 1 to 25, you never get for those ressources the 122k on coins... If you understand what i mean
to be honest with you they don't know what they want to do to this game they are pushing people away from this game and if they push enough people away they going to stop making content for this game
They said they had more things planned, "a lot more", so let's see. 🙈