Nvidia Laptops Have Changed SO MUCH.
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2023
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Thoughts on Nvidia DLSS on RTX enabled Gaming Laptops
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I think AI upscaling is a cool technology, but I don’t want it to be the reason why Nvidia sells underpowered hardware simply because “just turn on DLSS”
Exactly. Barely any performance with double or triple the price just because of the stupid AI that devs use cause they’re lazy on optimizing their games
Even if it offered much better power efficiency?
At some point, whether it be AI, more power, or better optimization, something has to improve for PC gaming on laptops. As someone who has bought both a 4090 laptop as well as a Steam Deck, I think it's weird that there isn't something that tries to strike a good balance between the two extremes. I wish there was a PC that gets reasonable gaming performance (like low to medium at 1080/1440p) while having reasonable thermals and battery life. I don't know why gamers are so hostile to the idea that true mobile gaming should be possible on the Windows platform. All I want is to be able to start and finish a game of Civilization V on battery, like I can on my 14" MacBook Pro. Macs have a pitiful gaming library, but when they do run a game, they play fine on battery. If AI helps us get there for Windows, I'd really appreciate it.
To be fair they did spend a lot of money developing the tech, can't expect to get it for free
Nah, AMD would then start taking market share because Nvidia knows people buy their hardware for most power etc overall across multiple things such as graphic designing and all sorts. But they may release a lower range GPU products with DLSS marketing. But still won't stop the powerhouses.
"Video is Sponsored by Nvidia" is something to keep in mind
it's rather a very long ad.
Do you think he's saying anything he doesn't believe though? Which bits don't you agree with? I still avoid using DLSS whenever I can get the frame rate I want without it, but I have to admit it now looks pretty decent in most games. I'm still not sold on Frame Gen though, it's only good if you have a high enough frame rate to not need it, thus making it pointless.
@@hokayson6518 I don't agree with naming laptop GPUs one tier above their actual counterparts in desktops. Laptop 4070 actually has 4060 ti specs, laptop 4080 has(mostly) desktop 4070 ti specs, laptop 4090 has desktop 4080 specs(even the same core count and memory).
Why not name them the same? Because Nvidia wants people to think the laptop GPUs still have the same specs as the deskop ones like in the time of 1000 and 2000 series, where they were named the same and had the same specifications. This is just dishonest marketing and Dave just keeps praising them.
Laptop 4070, unlike the desktop version doesn't have nearly enough video memory to be future proof, yet Dave praises frame generation which actually needs *even more* vram for activation. Nvidia wants planned obsolesense on laptops to be way faster on laptops than on desktops(keep in mind unlike desktops, you can't just upgrade a GPU, you have to buy a whole new laptop) and Dave seems to be perfectly fine with it, mentioning how great low end GPUs are right now despite having terribly longevity and not being future proof at all. Nvidia *knows* that those who buy them will have to upgrade soon.
@@tabalugadragon3555 Oh I fully agree the Nvidia laptop GPU naming is total BS! I've argued the same thing many times myself. I'm less with you on the longevity thing though. You can always turn down settings to get VRAM requirements down, & the GPUs in laptops will only play AAA stuff at decent frame rates for a few years anyway. Those who care about the very latest AAA games running with high textures can upgrade, those who don't care so much about that can turn settings down. I would rather more VRAM pretty much across the board with most Nvidia GPUs, but I don't think it's as big a deal as people make it out to be.
@@hokayson6518 I disagree. High end GPUs can last for a very long time. Laptop 1070 still holds up well despite being a 7 year old GPU. If desktop 4070 was actually in laptops it would have decent longevity. 16GB 4060 ti? even higher longevity, especially if you only game at 1080p where 128 bit memory bus doesn't matter.
Again, laptops have GPUs soldered so you can't just slap another GPU in it and have to replace a whole device, which is both costly and non-environmentally friendly. My i7 8750h in my current laptop would handle RTX 4060 just fine, but because my GTX 1050 is soldered, I can't replace it and need to buy a new laptop.
The fact that all the comments are bots in an AI video is quite interesting
Ahh, now that make sense, I was wondering why this particular video of Dave got spammed so hard by bots, I guess the bots are looking for specific tags like AI to choose their target
They didn't tell you? The owner of the store has treated me to one free comment section, within the app. Just walk on.
Damn this bot is saying something interesting
I am a bot, i can confirm that neither you nor I have no idea what we are talking about.
The whole culmination of the agricultural slop will, in time, result in more opportunities of chance.
Game studios will see this an opportunity to make games that only run at 480p 15fps natively.
NVidia will see this an opportunity to make cards that run new games only at 480p 15fps natively.
If it looks good, I don’t care about how it runs “natively”
@@notoriouspomegranate5612this is the issue though using upscaling on 1080p looks like garbage because of how low the base resolution it uses is
did you even watch this video? that's no longer the case. It's why Dave made this video lmao@@mahmood2603
Because you refuse to buy a better pc.
Thing is we should use that technology to make gaming cheaper and more widespread like what Valve is doing with the Steam Deck. That's definitely not in their plans though.
It's not only NVIDIA sadly. Every single A.I stuff is behind big paywall, usually subscription plan. At least we can install some stuff manually if hardware is strong enough.
It's called NGreedia for a reason
What do you mean it’s not in their plans? The Nintendo Switch has sold 132 million times, bringing an affordable console with tons of games to a very large number of people. It’s cheaper and better supported than Steam Deck. The Switch is powered by Nvidia.
More importantly, Switch 2 is launching sometime in the next 6 to 12 months, and it will be bringing a huge leap in performance to the Switch platform, powered by much newer Nvidia hardware that will absolutely support DLSS.
Nvidia is certainly looking to profit from high end gaming as much as they can, but it’s hard to deny the impact they’ve had on making gaming cheaper and more widespread. They have done far more than the Steam Deck has done up to this point.
Steam deck is currently not good also Nvidia launched handhelds before Valve for way cheaper. Nvidias ARM will make the most powerfull handhels in history.
@@kaeji_namitsua That remains to be seen. Also, hard disagree on the Steam Deck not being good. It's an amazingly well designed machine with great software support and enough power to play most games.
Companies should just send Dave blue laptops and phones and he'd love them more
Teal to be more precise..
They should just pay him for video and he would love everything in the video more lol
DLSS/FSR was an additional nice to have performance boost but newer games require upscaling to even hit 60fps. Game devs should optimize using frame targets for native resolution but they don't, which kind of sucks.
I agree. A lot of games are released horribly and then they do damage control after with fixed and updates and whatnot. Looking at you Star Wars Jedi Survivor!
native res is dead to me when DLSS is so good
What you are asking is two edged sword. While non-native rendering is a weird compromise, so that a game can even reach 60fps... It's in nearly direct opposition to game devs spending thousands of hours placing fake lighting around the maps to just barely light the worlds. Why do that when you can path trace couple bounces and DLSS the performance drop away, like literally. Why have thousands of fake light sources in a game world, when you can have the Sun/Moon + few torches with couple path raced light ray bounces.
@@TealJosh I'm talking about upscaling, not raytracing. So far there is no game that requires DLSS ray reconstruction, they have to spend thousands of hours placing fake lighting anyway. Especially since DLSS and DLSS ray reconstruction are not open source and NVidia exclusive.
If they optimize for mid-range hardware to hit 60fps on native resolution with high (not ultra) settings (like it was until now), then mid-range hardware could probably have a smooth 120fps experience using upscaling. Also low-end hardware might be able to hit 60 fps using upscaling.
But why? Why should they do that? Who cares if it's native? Quality of pixels is way more important that quantity of pixels. DLSS enables devs to improve graphics elsewhere. Good luck getting Nanite and Lumen running decently at native resolutions.
The perfect tool for lazy devs that can't be bothered to optimise or publishers who want to push the game out ASAP. We have seen this multiple times in 2023
It sad to see that developer or publisher abuse this tech to skip optimization, high refresh rate screen is ridiculously common yet the refresh can only be felt on older, indie, or esport games
Optimization costs money. The game would have to sell as much more to justify the cost. Not to mention the delay that it adds to going to market. Most likely the majority revenue is going to comes from folks with new-ish hardware, so companies might not bother too much with optimization.
Source: Worked as a GPU optimization engineer, although not in Gaming.
@@adityapatil325 i know but before this year optimization rarely a serious problem. Before 2023 rtx 4090 can run any games at 4k always above 60 fps at max settings without ray tracing, now 4090 often get 40 fps with that settings in new unoptimized games, 40fps is unacceptable for 4090
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 Probably because most people don't care, or atleast the publishers think so. If sales get affected by low performance, then they will optimise the games
@@adityapatil325 yeah, hopefully these really unoptimized games get low sales soo this optimization skip bull💩 trend not become the norm on pc gaming ,there is no reason for a decent gpu become obsolete just in one year
We cant keep relying on upscaling and frame generation to give us playable framerates. It allows develops to just not optimize their games and just expect frame generation to do it for them.
This right here, but also it causes Nvidia to get complacent, like I wouldn't be surprised if the RTX 5090 hits $1999.
Plus, there's most games out there now doesn't use DLSS and frame generation.
@@killertruth186And some just can't work with frame gen being essentially all remotely fast paced multiplayer games where an inevitable incorrect guess of where an actual player will be from the generated frame will be extremely annoying and jarring.
@@Frozokeni don't really see this as being much of an issue since most fast paced shooter games seem to already be optimized more than single player triple a games are. In the case where this isn't true, like for something like battlefield V, the action is slower paced as a result of being a larger game, meaning frame gen wouldn't be much of a detriment. Fps game developers know they have to have better optimized games by default so this isn't really a problem.
True, starfield, sorry starlag, relying on this tech to make the game playlable ,where this tech supposed to give extra fps
The only issue now is that most of the games are barely optimised to hit 60 on a descent hardware without these technologies.
These technologies should exist to enhance that experience and not just to make things work
Yes it's almost like bandaid fixes to decades of their own price gouging that have stifled raw generational price to performance improvements aren't all that effective. 🤔😂 Imagine where we'd be if the 4060 ti got 60% more cores than the 3060 ti and kept its bus width for now 16gb of vram for only ~7% more money than the 3060ti like the 4090 had done over the 3090. Ampere was a great price to performance improvement but ofc nvidia couldn't give peasants who can't spend $1500 on a gpu the necessary 2GB memory modules that the 3090 got so instead we ran out of vram not raw performance that generation. Isn't that just great? Now this time we finally get those 2GB memory modules but with half the bus width meaning half the memory chips too so we not only get barely any raw performance improvement seeing core counts went backwards, but no extra vram and significantly less memory bandwidth on top of that too. Late stage capitalism at its finest, they literally have 0 incentive to do anything but what makes them the most money and this is what happens as a result of that
@@Frozoken spot on.
Yeah , games like starfield ehm sorry starlag, immortal of aveum , remnant 2 it basically abuse this tech :(
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 Don't even mention Alan Wake 2, what a joke, requires DLSS balanced at 1080p to be playable at 30 fps on a 2060, seems we the gaming industry have no shame and no sympathy for those who are already miserable.
@@adridell alan wake 2 is different case than unoptimized titles like starlag, remnant 2 ,because remedy use bull💩 graphics feature like mesh shader💩 that barely improve graphics over raster but have huge performance penalty, also i hear from zwormz follower that alan wake 2 use software rt, which is dumb
this felt like a 9 minute 43 second ad.
DLSS and frame gen are already technically Generative AI. But agreed with more of this coming to bere with LLMs and other kinds of AI models.
Enjoy that huge paycheck my man.
Dave is sleeping with the devil on this one…
Really excited for their new ARM chip that will power Windows laptops. Can't wait for gaming handhelds to be running on ARM and have this AI upscaling + ray tracing enabled.
Good god the amount of amazon scam accounts has skyrocketed
I know. RUclips has been screwing over legitimate comments but allow that s**t through is disgusting.
@@cameronbosch1213 just remember the sniperwolf controversy to see who RUclips really for
@@cameronbosch1213and instead of them to crack down on spamming, they decided to fight ad-blocking instead.
@@Matanumi I'm not surprised anymore either.
Nice to have this video for someone like me. Interested in getting back into pc gaming and was getting lost with all the jargon.
How much did they pay you for this commercial ?
Nice explaination there mate
So exactly which $800 laptops fit your description for best Nidia DLSS on RTX Gaming machines?
Good video Dave. You covered a lot of ground here.
A.I. was supposed to boost the FPS of already playable games, not make games barely playable. Recent titles like Alan Wake 2 and Starfield are barely playable with DLSS on my RTX 3060. And the fact that I need to updgrade just to access Nvidia's newer DLSS locked behind 40 series GPUs is downright deplorable.
DLSS is great, always use it even when I already have 100fps+, but FG is still not for me, all competitive gamer should notice the increase latency, it feels like I'm disconnected from the game
Great video Dave, a lot of stuff covered
Words we thought we would never here "This video is sponsored by...."
It blows my mind that rendering intermediate frames with a neural network can be more efficient than native rendering. The implications of that seem huge to me.
That's because you misunderstand.
It is NOT rendering new frames.
It is basically using the next-fame and the previous frame, and comparing them against each other. And using certain algorithms to change and make a new middle frame. Your screen at this point hasn't displayed either of the three frames yet. It is displaying a fourth previous frame, because these are all in a queue. There is a slight performance drop because of this, so you're actually getting LOWER frame-rates of the native ones. You can test that out and tell by the latency, it has a noticeable drop.
The technology is 1 Year old at this point, and it hasn't gotten better. But within the next 3 Years it should improve. But it still is reliant on having solid native performance first.
Or in other words, the hardware should be pumping out 1440p/90fps/Very High Settings.... and using these AI Tools, it should be able to bump them up into 2160p/120fps/Ultra Settings. The problem is that the AI isn't quiet there yet, AND we are NOT getting that level of native performance, it is closer to 1200p/50fps/Very High. So basically it is that Nvidia's hardware is SLOW but they insist on charging MORE money for it. They are relying on their industry connections, and marketing to accomplish this up-selling tactic. It's not working as we are seeing the lowest rates of PC Gaming in the past 20 Years.
People are turning to console gaming instead, and it's why Sony has been bold enough to raise its prices across the board, whilst Microsoft starts to water down their (previously) excellent Cloud Gaming service. It's just less competition. The best year of gaming was 2010 (most competition), and the (least competition) worst year seems to be 2022.
edit: spelling
No... Mr. Davey.
Detroit: Become Human with AI NPCs will be next level
uh... you are looking at it, the android's name is Dave.
@@evl619 HAHA
DLSS and frame generation are one of the more promising use cases of AI right now. Generative AI however is muddled with moral issues where it takes artist's work without their permission to train their AI models, and then companies will likely fire/ hire less artists to work on games in the future.
0:56 Wait is your new camera better at colour reproduction or did your old videos have a vampire filter on
2019 dave looks 10 years younger lol
Are handheld devices going to start using DLSS too?
Thanks this was a really clear explanation of DLSS and it’s newer features
How does nvdia taste dave?
yeah Dave, a huge win for laptops still having 8GB of vram 7 years later. Amazing. Nvidia should be proud of themselves giving laptops worse specs, trying to justify it with "lower power consumption" even though their higher end laptop GPUs like 4080 and 4090 are more power efficient. 4090m(desktop 4080) is even installed in Zephirus G14, a 1.6 KG ultrabook, and you're telling me I can't have a desktop 4070 in a Legion 5?
Low end laptops always had low vram though, expecting 16 gigs of vram in a £700 laptop is asking for a bit much tbh.
@@oo--7714 where did that come from? where did you find £700 in my comment for 16GB?
But if a laptop GPU is called "4070" and costs 1500+ dollars I expect it to have 12GB of vram just like the desktop version. If they wanted to sell it for 4060 ti price they'd call it a 4060 ti.
The least they could do is provide 4070m with 16GB just like desktop 4060 ti option, but they didn't do even that.
As for "low end laptops always had low vram" my 1050 has 4GB, for 6 years ago, that was a decent amount and double of what desktop 1050 had, so no, not always.
NVIDIA's DLSS has allowed me to to still feel like I own the latest gaming laptop, with my 3 year old Lenovo Legion with a 3060! So much money saved by not having the need to upgrade
I have a 3060 5800h legion 5 too. The gpu in terms of rendering horsepower is still a beast and you can get an easy 200 Mhz overclock with MSI afterburner but the thing holding it back these days is the 6gig vram.
@@AmadeusBrown Yes the VRAM is a problem but again, DLSS renders everything at a lower res anyway so sometimes you can get away with setting textures to High or even Medium instead of Ultra
Whereas my 3070 laptop (ROG strix) struggles 65-75fps on medium on starfield. (1080p).poor Optimisation
I think I have the same laptop lol
I’m still playing just about every new game at high settings with DLSS turned on (quality, sometimes balanced).
I don’t care about a few missing pixels or slightly lower quality shadows/lighting.
I feel like this ai gen crutch will catch up to the devloper eventually. Too much weight leaning on that crutch will eventually lead it to give out one way or another. For example when a game is severely cpu limitied. Doesnt matter how much frame gen/upscaling you try to throw at it. Gains would be pretty small. Now if a game is optimized well and you want to go even further with ai sure thats fine. That scenario would be great for lower spec machines and portable.
It's funny you use CPU limitation as an example, when Nvidia's frame generation is explicitly benefiting performance in CPU-limited scenarios. The performance improvement on weaker CPUs is where it's most appreciated. So I'm not sure you understand the tech at all.
Yeah the biggest difference this would make would be to cpu limited systems. Its actually the complete opposite of what your thinking.
Wait until you find out that all real time graphics relies heavily on tricks, optimisations and "crutches" to get a good looking result as fast as possible.
It’s gotten to the point where you can damn near run 1080p 50% render rate or “performance/ultra performance mode” and it’s BARELY noticeable especially on 15.6 inch
Does dlss also help when you’re using unreal engine to make games and movies?
8:45 Dave, we've got this already! With the help of modders in Skyrim you can add dynamic NPC/follower dialog and they even remember old events and dialogs to implement in their answers!
Do you make your own wallpapers or do you get it from somewhere
These technologies and stock settings are like 320kbps mp3 and wav files - you need less resources to achieve the same result in terms of feelings
I’m playing Starfield on my RTX 3060 and 12th gen i7 laptop and when i turned on DLSS, the choppy frame-rates which seemed like 40-50 fps “magically” turned to more than 60 fps. There wasn’t any frame rate counter but i can tell you that my experience just improved by a mile.
Sad, upscaling to 1080p and motion smoothing from 30 fps base is still a very bad experience.
Great! But does it only work on games or is it capable of giving more performance in engineering software like solidworks?!
My girlfriend bought a 2050 laptop for $500 (I thought it was a 3050 at first so told her great deal). I have a 3070 pc and she play games on her phone. I sometimes try to get her to play with me, so today I saw cold war was on sale (bought mw3 last night). Originally, I was going to buy it on the ps4, then I realized I would have to get PS plus. Then I realized she had the laptop.... surprisingly with DLSS at all medium settings, no ray tracing, cold war ran above 60fps. On all low settings it ran around 90. I praised DLSS at that moment, though I have always been a fan.
Cheap laptops and cheaper entry level gaming isnt thanks to Nvidia. its thanks to competition
2019 dave looked more mature than current dave
Exactly what I was thinking, he's kinda overhyping some things in videos
What monitor are you using at the back?
Love uur vid background! Tru Perfection! Have u ever tried a saltwater tank? Colorado Anemones and macro alge will look dope as part of the background! And they are so easy to keep! 😏
Loving my Legion 7i Pro with RTX 4080 🔥
These technologies are cool and stuff, but there are some drawbacks I have observed. With DLSS2, game developers are now relying on upscaling. So, instead of focusing on running games well at native, it's in their mindset now that they have upscaling. So, they suggest ridiculous minimal requirements, were to run a game at 1080p30 you have to turn on upscaling at performance . This just makes absolutely no sense. Another thing is that upscaling / frame generation only work well on mid to high tier graphics cards, because DLSS2 upscales well from 1080/1440p, but if you target resolution is 1080p it's just bad. Similarly, as Dave mentioned, DLSS3 works well only with decent enough framerate. So, you need to have at least 50-60 fps with native/DLSS2.
Let's take a moment and appreciate Dave2D not selling to Nvidia
Hard disagree.
3:30 Base fps of 30 is a horrendous experience. Don't fool your audience.
@@TheIndulgerssarcasm
he is literally saying that it is bad at this frame rate or am I wrong@@TheIndulgers
@@TheIndulgers except it won't be at 30 fps due to frame generation? it'll be at 60... he's saying the *input lag* won't be noticeable if you're running at 30 before frame generation. the visual experience will be the same as running at 60.
Yup
A lot of people tried frame gen on gaming and offline in past but failed, it doesn't even work properly offline with nvidia's latest omniverse tools, problem is any frames that user can't control kills responsiveness, and it only works when there > 70-90fps, at those framerate why do you even need frame gen!?
This can really improve the handheld pc market and make it amazing
Dave great content always mahn
Just a reminder, you still haven’t done “Best Gaming Laptop 2023”
Would really help if you do tho
As long as they don't artificially limit it to newer cards only
Hi Dave, can u do a review on which laptops I can buy in 2023
Could you recommend some laptops with the said specs under 800 bucks.
i miss the light tubes in the back 😔
Oh man, two disappointing sponsored videos today (first Digital Foundry and now Dave2D), both damaging the reputation of their authors.
First of all - upscaling still doesn't look very good in 1080p. There is simply a small number of pixels to reconstruct the image from, and no matter how good the technology gets, this is a hard limitation (though I admit that the latest DLSS versions certainly got rid of the most annoying shimmering and flickers).
Second of all - unfortunately, going down the AI rabbit hole got us exactly where many feared it would. The developers got lazy with optimization and just slapt a DLSS/FSR requirement on 1080p/60FPS configs. It's so ridiculous that now you can see a system req. for 1080p/low and find out it's only 60FPS with DLSS/FSR enabled. For sometimes even mid-range 30series card. That's not progress, that is either blatant laziness, or a paid push from (let's be honest, mostly nvidia) GPU manufacturers to buy even more expensive card.. like 40series, which is a complete joke/s*it in price/perf. comparison until like 4080.
Now, don't get me wrong, the AI can be useful - for NPC's, and many more things. But the way we're heading now, it's not a very good direction for us customers. And no paid videos will change that.
Uoscaling quality at 1080p depend on specific games, in cyberpunk even dlss on balanced it look sharper than 99,99999% games that i play without dsr or dldsr nonsense, maybe you have 27 inch 1080p monitor or even worse 1080p tv which it 32 inch or more, or you play games that dont do upscaling correctly. many lazy dev or publisher not only lazy to optimize the game but also lazy to implement correct upscaling correctly ,
Its OK, you can get your daily dose of bashing Nvidia nonsensically elsewhere, like Notaanapple fan or MLID or hardwareunboxed
Amazon in the comment section: Spam I Am
Any chance for a video about Geforce Now? Ive been using it, and although its far from perfect being able to game on my Macbook air is incredibly convenient and cost effective.
Ok, I understand what you say. I just wonder. Is it good timing for buying new lap top now? I have 3080ti laptop, it is still good, but I can't satisfied now in any games. Nowdays all game use Ray tracing or Path tracing, so I can't play with Highest option. I heard FSR 3.0 was launced for all the GPUs in September, but still not support AAA games. So I want to buy new one with RTX, but as you know every year new GPU is launched. Around Feburary. Please let me know is it good timing for buying 40 series, or Wating 3 months more.
May I ask is this DLSS on windows x86 or Arm
0:55 I was not ready for that haircut change.
1:31 Right now, it looks a lot better
Cyberpunk guardrails: you're playing Guitar Hero
1:32 this footage to prove it's a different product now, when it struggles so much in the background isn't a good example
Dave with NVs carrot up his behind wasn't on my bingo card
Cool! Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
Holy shit Dave grew out his hair
looks nice man!
5 seconds later and your hands are melted to the keyboard, and the keyboard has welded to the floor. no you were not that excited
are the implications of generative ai (facial expressions, natural langauge replication) in games that eventually there won’t be a need, from an industry perspective, to employ actors and voice actors for video games?
An excellent and objective video. Absolutely nailed it!
DLSS is just a upscaler, you play at a lower resolution actually, the image is blurry if you go below quality mode, lower res means more performance thats all.
You could at least edit out Jensen Huang placing the cards to read from your left top corner of your screen lol
did Dave get bought out? pretty sad
Whats that game at the start(1:40) where you shoot a big spider guy in the butt?
This is just a Nvidia ad guys. Beware.
Off topic but where is that jacket from? Anyone knows?
Developers pushing hardware is a good thing but they should make it such that it can run on lower end hardware and juicing it up to the latest makes it look better and run better
Why does everyone keep crying about developers? instead of thinking about Nvidia/AMD not giving you real performance upgrades that's backed by silicon. They are selling you same silicon and promising you this very situational performance that only is useful in some cases. Why do we care about this shift towards AI BS instead of asking for real raw performance. You fanboys... Everywhere I see, fanboys red-pilled by Nvidia marketing team to oblivion.
@@Steel0079 bruh no one is supporting nvidia and amd, they are pieces of shit. But just raw performance is coming to its limitation in the long term and there is not much left to squeeze for let’s say the next 10-15 years of graphic requirements. We have get innovative but these companies take these arguments as excuses to make a quick buck.
@@raghavagrawal52 we are far from physical limits. Just look up what 3nm from TSMC actually is. It's more like 24nm or something. Sure it's getting hard to get lower actual numbers. But these companies have profit margins of like 65%. And the gaming laptops are like biggest scam. It's not crazy to ask for real performance upgrades.
@@raghavagrawal52 yep. Alan Wake 2 is unplayable on Pascal(1000 series Nvidia) GPUs. But oh look, a Vulkan mod actually made it playable, and Remedy didn't even bother to include it as an option. Heck, even on a 1060 it's playable, with a mod you don't even need a high end Pascal GPU to enjoy it.
does it even make senye on a 1080p screen? I thought dlss only makes sense on 4k
It's insane that Dave talked about of a lot of topics and the video still only ran under 10 minutes
Sure this is not partner material? Sounds very emotional, dlss being better than native 4k?
i am just jealous and at the same time happy that gamers can still make time to game as the life goes on.
I'm sorry this sounds like its coming directly from Nvidia PR and is ignoring all the issues these technologies (still) have.
After trying dlss on cyberpunk the issues is mostly from developer or publisher side, that too lazy to optimize the game let alone implement proper upscaling, even Benchmark let's player channel zwormz gaming have mixed bag opinion about upscaling on various games cuz the result is vastly different, i am not defending nvidia for this cuz upscaling it legit usefull if done properly
it's being used as a crutch to not optimise games for the hardware correctly. i never use dlss and always the native resolution because you can tell it's being upscaled and makes the image so soft.
I use DLSS in Warzone with my 3080ti / 5900X system on my 49” Samsung Odyssey OLED monitor. I average about 130fps at 1440p. I gotta say that I can’t tell the difference in quality in visuals between using and not using it but the difference in fps is huge. Without it, I’m sitting at about 70-80 fps. It really has come a very long way! I absolutely love it!
Dave flexing his Hanzo play
Fish tank looking good dave
This is the first time I have thought about generative AI and gaming. There is really an opportunity to totally change the landscape!
1:40 someone tell which game is that?
I'm sorry Dave2D but on this whole video I didn't see any '' entry gaming laptop able to Play top tear Triple A title'' .Also If i undertand this DLSS is a software so Normaly it should work with the previous Generations of GPU (that "supports DLSS" ) as good as the new ones right ?
Fake frames are a luxury feature. The true benefit of high framerate is increased response time, especially at the lower end (30FPS) You have to wait for 2 frames before you can start generating the fake 60 FPS, you'll literally have a worse experience than without it.
I have a 4080 laptop and frame generation introduces major screen tearing on my games. It's a broken feature in my experience.
metro exodus was the first game I used for dlss and it was so bad that I unistalled the game cause it wouldn't run at 60fps with ray tracing and ultra settings with dlss on even on a 2080. From there to what it is now, it's amazing
So this is a 10 minute Nvidia DLSS ad?
Entry level? 800-900?
Lu talking about games gives me goosebumps! 😂💙
Why am seeing a 10mins long ad after two 2 mins long ads? Where is the video?