I'm in the UK and took delivery of the 8K Ronin 4D combo just before christmas - its a beast! Combo came with native DL mount zoom lens (17-28mm), SSD already attached and also comes with Prores Raw!
Hi. I'm one of the filmmakers using this device in South Korea. I really enjoyed the video. Thank you. I am also buying and using Ronin 4D, but this is too heavy. It's annoying to have to handle the weight even when using it as a fixed camera. Even if all the joints of the gimbal were locked, there was a problem in using it as a fixed camera because a slight shaking occurred. There is an option called Flex, but it is questionable whether it is painful enough to pay an additional amount to purchase. I'm using Sony camera lens, but I don't like AF. Even after calibration, the focus does not seem to be about 5mm. The distance information between Lidar and the lens seems to be slightly different, but it is not easy to match perfectly. I'm considering changing the model to Fx6 because the performance of the lens is a waste. I think people like me are selling secondhand, so the price is falling. However, I am conflicted by watching Ronin 4D's footage dozens of times a day. This is because it is an incredibly beautiful quality footage that can eliminate the inconvenience and irritation of use.
I have three complaints about the 4D given the price. I say given the price because price is everything, if it were cheaper then maybe I would turn a blind eye, but because it's not, these will be issues for me: 1) Slow rolling shutter speed 2) RAW requires their proprietary SSD unit even though it has internal CFexpress B and USB-C. 3) HDMI 1.4a output only (so no 4K output for sharper monitoring).
Yeah… although I see what your POV is, the benefit of Prores Raw is Kindof pointless to me and the hdmi issue has never been an issue… you don’t need 4K output for a tiny 7” screen or even a 15” screen. You can’t find 4K screen out there anyways that aren’t around 20”+
@@AnthonyRodriguezz grew up in Orlando, but in Tampa now. I'm building a team out here to shoot cat video channels and other types of videos. Going to get the ronin 4d of some kind some day, but not now. I'll stay tuned on your channel
Hey Anthony, thank you so much for making this video! I am absolutely in love with this camera lately, although I haven't tried it really, just held it in my hands but I am still heavily researching whether I should get this one or the Red Komodo OR Sony FX6 which have their own Pros... But in saying that... This is one of the best reviews I've seen man, and I would love to ask a couple of questions: 1. what's your experience with the lidar, is it a big problem, that things in front of your subject like fog or flimsy grass interfere with the focussing? I feel like you would just use manual focus in that case, which you would do on many other cinema cameras anyways? I also heard, that it is not possible to auto focus to infinity with sony lenses? 2. how bad is the rolling shutter in your opinion? I do a lot of fast moving shots, and I wonder if it is so bad that it is very noticeable even when you don't pause the video? 3. is there any way to delete footage of the card/drive without formatting the whole thing? Maybe through your computer? Or does that mess with the ssd? I am also kind of worried about the weight, because literally everybody talks about it... As I've said I had it in my hands and didn't find it that heavy tbh but obviously that changes when you hold it for longer periods. I also think that the new generation of gimbals which you hold like a sword are even worse because once you tilt them the system is SO front heavy because of the lever... What do you think? I do a lot of sports/action and documentary shooting and I feel like this could be THE camera for me, but these few things I need to consider and I am wondering whether it is worth making those compromises because I don't want to carry it with the flex cable in a backpack each time because it is too heavy e.g. Thanks for reading and keep rocking! ~ Phill
Thanks for stopping by and wow! That’s alot to tackle. I’ll say this, I’ve never had a client care about rolling shutter nor have I noticed it in movies ever when watching them or docs. The rolling shutter isn’t great, the lidar CAN be good and deleting clips… I have no idea 😂 I hope that helps… honestly if you want the fastest camera possible I’d get the 4d
lol that's fun ! still happy about it? I have the leica R serie 33xxx too, and a red gemini, I hesitate to buy a 6K4D, what do you think about those leicar and 4D? Do you have some videos made with this setup I can see? Thx, i subscribed!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I just joined 2 of them today. I put a small post up, but I’m going to do a detailed breakdown of my gear to try and get a ronin 4D. Otherwise I’ll just sell my gear and buy new.
@Anthony Rodriguez I mean that new nucleus does look sweet. But you can pull focus on auto focus lenses at three different resistance levels, the wheel lights up along with iris slider, af/mf button and a zoom pressure sensitive button with multi and and hard limit stops. I would try it out at least if you can rent it. It is nice on the hight bright 7" monitor.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I'm glad to hear that you think so too. I bought the camera at the beginning of this month 😊Now I just need to agree on which lens to buy for it? What would you recommend in this situation if it has to be Professional but not over £3000
I’ve used it in house a bit but not on an all day project. Will be adding my thought on the flex system on the in depth review I’ll be making after about a month or two of using the 4d and all of its accessories
Love this review! I just picked up the 4D and use it in live broadcasts. The only issue I’m having is updating the Sony mount firmware. Have you ran into this issue?
Hey Anthony. Great video! What camera should I pick between C70, Fx6, and 4d? I’m starting a production company and upgrading from the x-t3 (I’ve also been renting for shoots). My focus is corporate b2b ads for social media spots. Leaning towards the 4d for a small team of two but I’d appreciate your input.
@@AnthonyRodriguezzHey Anthony if you should go for two, what would be your pick (including the komodo-x and fx3 as options as well) I really liked your video btw!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Word ! Yeah I have an S5ii, BMPCC 6K, OG BMPCC, XT4, thinking about a Sigma FP...so I'm probably good on cameras for a while but, if I get any inkling that the DJI has something special in the image, then I'd for sure think about it. Dope video ! Nice shots in there, especially on the move ! See you.
That was a great video thank you subbed. Will you be making the review that you mentioned. I don't think it necessary to be honest. But your style is enjoyable. Sad truth is that I have watched many videos now as I am interested in getting one. So youtubes say they will be making more content on the subject but they don't. I can never work out if that is a good sign, or that they can't bring themselves to do it, for whatever reason. Maybe they didn't get enough views or likes. Of course not following through and delivering will actually quickly make people like me lose interest as consistency in following a chanel is important, the people who have viewed the video like me, who are first time visitors may not sub nor ever come back. Just a creative thought for you. I have subbed, I like you.
Congrats ….. ur probably one of the 8 people who bought this crap……Especially at this ridiculous price……this camera will probably be discontinued within the next year….. waste of money 🤷♂️
Lol you obviously do not know there’s a whole FB with almost 2000 members and there are plenty of professional DP’s that use this camera regularly 🤦🏽♂️
@@AnthonyRodriguezz yup… returned it in 2 weeks…. Bro, you don’t need to try and convince me if you like the camera good for you, but generally speaking, it’s garbage
Yup, went with a Komodo, then a second one, now my C cam is the 4D. Freaking love it for what it is :)
LOVE the 4D! And now with audio attachment announcement, its has finally become the full camera it was meant to be.
It’s great!
It’d need a couple more updates but yes, this camera is well on its way to becoming one of the most convenient cameras
@@AnthonyRodriguezzwhat else are you waiting to see? Maybe do a vid on it?
the 8K version! which I have lol @@tazistarfire
I'm in the UK and took delivery of the 8K Ronin 4D combo just before christmas - its a beast! Combo came with native DL mount zoom lens (17-28mm), SSD already attached and also comes with Prores Raw!
Sweet! I’d love to get the 8k but it doesn’t make too much sense for me rn to have a random 6k head laying around as a paperweight
Is it tough missing 422 and LT? File sizes insane?
Hi. I'm one of the filmmakers using this device in South Korea. I really enjoyed the video. Thank you.
I am also buying and using Ronin 4D, but this is too heavy. It's annoying to have to handle the weight even when using it as a fixed camera. Even if all the joints of the gimbal were locked, there was a problem in using it as a fixed camera because a slight shaking occurred. There is an option called Flex, but it is questionable whether it is painful enough to pay an additional amount to purchase.
I'm using Sony camera lens, but I don't like AF. Even after calibration, the focus does not seem to be about 5mm. The distance information between Lidar and the lens seems to be slightly different, but it is not easy to match perfectly.
I'm considering changing the model to Fx6 because the performance of the lens is a waste. I think people like me are selling secondhand, so the price is falling.
However, I am conflicted by watching Ronin 4D's footage dozens of times a day. This is because it is an incredibly beautiful quality footage that can eliminate the inconvenience and irritation of use.
Makes sense!
The flex is reeeealllly useful!
I love this camera. My favorite camera of all time.
Absolute favorite!
I have three complaints about the 4D given the price. I say given the price because price is everything, if it were cheaper then maybe I would turn a blind eye, but because it's not, these will be issues for me:
1) Slow rolling shutter speed
2) RAW requires their proprietary SSD unit even though it has internal CFexpress B and USB-C.
3) HDMI 1.4a output only (so no 4K output for sharper monitoring).
Yeah… although I see what your POV is, the benefit of Prores Raw is Kindof pointless to me and the hdmi issue has never been an issue… you don’t need 4K output for a tiny 7” screen or even a 15” screen. You can’t find 4K screen out there anyways that aren’t around 20”+
30 minutes at NAB and I've been wanting one ever since.
Almost anybody that actually uses the camera says that!
Nice to see someone in orlando making these types of videos
Thanks man!
You in the Orlando area?
@@AnthonyRodriguezz grew up in Orlando, but in Tampa now. I'm building a team out here to shoot cat video channels and other types of videos. Going to get the ronin 4d of some kind some day, but not now. I'll stay tuned on your channel
Hey Anthony, thank you so much for making this video! I am absolutely in love with this camera lately, although I haven't tried it really, just held it in my hands but I am still heavily researching whether I should get this one or the Red Komodo OR Sony FX6 which have their own Pros...
But in saying that... This is one of the best reviews I've seen man, and I would love to ask a couple of questions:
1. what's your experience with the lidar, is it a big problem, that things in front of your subject like fog or flimsy grass interfere with the focussing? I feel like you would just use manual focus in that case, which you would do on many other cinema cameras anyways? I also heard, that it is not possible to auto focus to infinity with sony lenses?
2. how bad is the rolling shutter in your opinion? I do a lot of fast moving shots, and I wonder if it is so bad that it is very noticeable even when you don't pause the video?
3. is there any way to delete footage of the card/drive without formatting the whole thing? Maybe through your computer? Or does that mess with the ssd?
I am also kind of worried about the weight, because literally everybody talks about it... As I've said I had it in my hands and didn't find it that heavy tbh but obviously that changes when you hold it for longer periods. I also think that the new generation of gimbals which you hold like a sword are even worse because once you tilt them the system is SO front heavy because of the lever... What do you think?
I do a lot of sports/action and documentary shooting and I feel like this could be THE camera for me, but these few things I need to consider and I am wondering whether it is worth making those compromises because I don't want to carry it with the flex cable in a backpack each time because it is too heavy e.g.
Thanks for reading and keep rocking!
~ Phill
Thanks for stopping by and wow! That’s alot to tackle.
I’ll say this, I’ve never had a client care about rolling shutter nor have I noticed it in movies ever when watching them or docs. The rolling shutter isn’t great, the lidar CAN be good and deleting clips… I have no idea 😂
I hope that helps… honestly if you want the fastest camera possible I’d get the 4d
@@AnthonyRodriguezz thanks so much for your time man! Loved the video ☺
lol that's fun ! still happy about it? I have the leica R serie 33xxx too, and a red gemini, I hesitate to buy a 6K4D, what do you think about those leicar and 4D? Do you have some videos made with this setup I can see? Thx, i subscribed!
They’re great but I don’t have any example online rn
@@AnthonyRodriguezz will post soon
Interesting, can you use the 4D as a PTZ? Put it on a stand and control it from afar? And save multiple preset positions?
You can!
Saving presets for multiple position is a no go though
@@AnthonyRodriguezz recalling position would be awesome
Nice Shots..however i cant understand what the Talent is saying the Music is quite loud...?
Oh snap! First time I’m hearing this…
Thanks for the heads up
8:30 is this automatic tracking works without sony lens? Like the leica R lens?
Yes it does!
ronin 4d in los angeles has not seen low used prices unfortunately. i've been looking as i'm selling my FX3 system to get one.
I’d recommend the FB groups
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I just joined 2 of them today. I put a small post up, but I’m going to do a detailed breakdown of my gear to try and get a ronin 4D. Otherwise I’ll just sell my gear and buy new.
Anthony,how you doing?, you made good shots!take it easy-
All is well!
Thank you!
Do you cope with the weight now? I'm not a massive guy and find it hard to visualise carrying 5kg of moving camera around
Your back gets used to it
Where did you get it used? Could this work as an A camera?
There are plenty on fb. I just searched for weeks until I found one!
I personally would not recommend this camera as your ONLY A cam.
Im not sure if you know of or have the three channel follow focus yet but its is freaking nice.
Hey man!
Honestly not too sure how I’d even use that 😂
I’ll just stick to potentially buying the new tilta nucleus nano
@Anthony Rodriguez I mean that new nucleus does look sweet.
But you can pull focus on auto focus lenses at three different resistance levels, the wheel lights up along with iris slider, af/mf button and a zoom pressure sensitive button with multi and and hard limit stops. I would try it out at least if you can rent it. It is nice on the hight bright 7" monitor.
nice grade Anthony!
Thanks bro!
interesting, do speak further about your Komodo decision and please speak to codecs, recording times and storage needs when it comes to the 4d
What else do you need to know about the Komodo decision?
I’ll go further into the 4d after months of extensive use!
Do you think the camera 6k is still worth buying today? Considering that handheld phones have up to 8k camera
Yes.
Resolution doesn’t matter when it comes to real cameras. Phones still look like trash 😂
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I'm glad to hear that you think so too. I bought the camera at the beginning of this month 😊Now I just need to agree on which lens to buy for it? What would you recommend in this situation if it has to be Professional but not over £3000
@danielkjaerdahl only lens I use on mine is the sigma 16-28 and sigma 28-70
Great review with practical application. How have you used the Flex system to make your rig easier to manage?
I’ve used it in house a bit but not on an all day project.
Will be adding my thought on the flex system on the in depth review I’ll be making after about a month or two of using the 4d and all of its accessories
Now with the ronin flex , what do you think?
I could never get used to it
I think it’s awesome. I only wish you could remove the cable for easy access.
Love this review! I just picked up the 4D and use it in live broadcasts. The only issue I’m having is updating the Sony mount firmware. Have you ran into this issue?
I don’t use the e-mount unfortunately!
Wish I could be of more help to ya 🤦🏽♂️
@@AnthonyRodriguezz ahh gotcha. No worries! Looking forward to more reviews
Hey Anthony. Great video! What camera should I pick between C70, Fx6, and 4d? I’m starting a production company and upgrading from the x-t3 (I’ve also been renting for shoots). My focus is corporate b2b ads for social media spots. Leaning towards the 4d for a small team of two but I’d appreciate your input.
Well… I’d definitely recommend 2 cameras but the 4d is the easiest camera for run n gun situations.
@@AnthonyRodriguezzHey Anthony if you should go for two, what would be your pick (including the komodo-x and fx3 as options as well)
I really liked your video btw!
did you get the RAW licences or was 4444 good enough? I'm a colourist so contemplating getting it with the license
I did not!
I personally do not even use 4444. The file sizes are way too large for the projects I’m going to be using it on.
So cool friend!
Thanks Lucero!
I hardly see any second hands on the market
Check in the fb groups
$6800 -interesting. Would save money on hiring Steadi or a gimbal op.. (internal thoughts) lol.
Haha!
The camera itself, even without the gimbal is 🔥🔥
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Word ! Yeah I have an S5ii, BMPCC 6K, OG BMPCC, XT4, thinking about a Sigma FP...so I'm probably good on cameras for a while but, if I get any inkling that the DJI has something special in the image, then I'd for sure think about it. Dope video ! Nice shots in there, especially on the move ! See you.
@@TopshelfJunior using the s5iix as well.
Can’t make a definitive statement on the image yet but I’m pretty impressed
Do you still have the c70?
Yup!
💪🏼
Filmmaker in Orlando. Lets connect!
Shoot me a message on IG!
It’s linked in the description
That was a great video thank you subbed. Will you be making the review that you mentioned. I don't think it necessary to be honest. But your style is enjoyable. Sad truth is that I have watched many videos now as I am interested in getting one. So youtubes say they will be making more content on the subject but they don't. I can never work out if that is a good sign, or that they can't bring themselves to do it, for whatever reason. Maybe they didn't get enough views or likes. Of course not following through and delivering will actually quickly make people like me lose interest as consistency in following a chanel is important, the people who have viewed the video like me, who are first time visitors may not sub nor ever come back. Just a creative thought for you. I have subbed, I like you.
Appreciate the feedback, not sure which video you are talking about though!
Could you elaborate a little?
A very typical type of user who'll always buy something new just because that something is new and then regretting it.
Negative
Congrats ….. ur probably one of the 8 people who bought this crap……Especially at this ridiculous price……this camera will probably be discontinued within the next year….. waste of money 🤷♂️
Lol you obviously do not know there’s a whole FB with almost 2000 members and there are plenty of professional DP’s that use this camera regularly 🤦🏽♂️
@@AnthonyRodriguezz oh wow a whopping 2000 people… Geez let me go out and buy three now laugh my ass off.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz the Cameras garbage, bro if it was selling for $1500, I’d consider it🤷♂️
Have you ever used one?
@@AnthonyRodriguezz yup… returned it in 2 weeks…. Bro, you don’t need to try and convince me if you like the camera good for you, but generally speaking, it’s garbage