HORRIFYING & CALCULATED Death of College Student: What Happened to Katie Autry? | WKU Kentucky
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HORRIFYING & CALCULATED Death of College Student: What Happened to Katie Autry? | WKU Kentucky
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This case has stuck with me for awhile. It’s pure evil and honestly, very calculated and smart, which terrifies me.
Same. Absolutely terrifying. Thank You Annie 🩷
Thank you ❤
7th😅
Thank you
Both guilty in my opinion
I was roofied at a frat party my freshman year in college. My 2 floormates didn't leave my side once they got me out of the bathroom. We all left the party together, 1 girl on either side of me b/c I was barely conscious. When we got back to our dorm, the RA saw us & my condition and called the EMTS. I was taken to the hospital,then woke up the next morning in my bed with my friends on my floor next me, with hardly a memory of coming or going. THOSE ARE GOOD FRIENDS/ROOMMATES!!
That'll how it should be. I met a guy on our girls trip to Puerto Rico. My friends didnt let me go out alone even if it was to the pool, they stay with me talking to his friend of course. Didn't go back up the room without me.
You were so lucky to have such caring friend.
You're lucky to have such good friends.
I wish everyone could have friends like you had that night! What a scary experience but thankfully ending well for you 🙏🏼 it’s sad people go around doing things like this and worse!
You had awesome friends!!! It is so important to have friends like this!
You having to describe what an answering machine and VHS tape is was a much needed laugh in such a terrible story ❤
Right? I felt so old right then 😅
yes although vhs's were NOT the size of a shoebox! lol much smaller
they're about the size of a Nintendo Switch but thicker
Look up the video of kids trying to work a rotary phone. Gold.
Like wtf? You're friend calls and says she's scared and find out there's TWO unknown males in her dorm while knowing she was extremely intoxicated. She then, heard Katie say "leave me alone" before the phone hung up. And somehow didn't think to immediately call Katie back or get a hold of the RA on duty to check on her, while in the meantime immediately finding a ride back to her dorm to see what was going on. I feel like this could have essentially been avoided. That part really got under my skin. Never in a million years would I brush off one of my intoxicated friends knowing they're alone with 2 unknown males telling me she's scared & not do anything.
My thought too
100%...complete failure on her friend's part.
I agree completely. If that were my friend I would have called someone to check on her. I would also have security go in they’re room.
Just how is this in anyway the friend’s fault?? Remember this is the first time that these young adults have been exposed to things that they probably haven’t experienced before. It’s really sick that you criticise and actually try to blame the friend, but say nothing about the evil people who did this! You’re a pathetic embarrassment if you can’t even differentiate between who is at fault and who actually did a horrific crime!
@@TJ-bn2cn no what's pathetic is that you obviously wouldn't make a good friend if you can sit here and say that just bc they are "experiencing new things" it's an excuse to just throw away all common sense. So, with that, you're telling me that if you're friend was to call you knowing they were extremely intoxicated, stating they are scared, with 2 unknown males in their room and the last thing you hear is her basically trying to get them off of her, then the phone cuts off? Please tell me how that wouldn't set off every alarm bell and red flag in your brain that something is obviously not right and their friend is not in a good situation. It's not saying it's her fault she was murdered, but she basically just ignored the fact that her friend was in trouble yet she continued to party a little longer before heading home without even trying to call her friend in obvious distress back or try getting in touch with someone at the dorms to at least check on her.
I'm sorry but sending your female drunk friend home with a male you don't know is not really looking out for your friend. It'd actually putting her in a potentially dangerous situation. Then she phones and hears 2 males voices and Katie saying she's scared but then assumed she'd still be ok. Um yea. Sounds like a great friend.
Deplorable.
I completely agree... who hears your friend say "leave me alone" knowing she's DRUNK in a room alone with two males she doesn't know.... who the hell does that? That's no friend. That's just... despicable
Definitely not a friend. This makes me so angry
Agree with you 100% when you have friends like that who need enemies..
Seems she isn't even bothered about this
The victim blaming and judging by the media is disgusting 😠
In 2003, it was SO MUCH worse too. The average person, hearing about a situation where one person preyed on another, was most likely to take the position, "if someone is stupid enough to let themselves be preyed upon, then they deserve it."
I sometimes mention in comments how much progress has been made in not even a generation, and people jump in saying people are just as bad now, or even worse.
But to me, it is night and day. Sure, bad people still exist, and people still do bad things, and have some bad attitudes. But the average person truly is far better than the average person was 20 years ago. We've come far and, I hope this trend continues.
Yeah I hate the way media and some people on here with different cases will comment and assume when they don't know shit and judge the situation. I've seen a lot of people just on RUclips make a ass of themselves because they say something about a case and it comes out completely different than was thought.
How did he know which dorm room to go to. I think she invited him up
she was a STRIPPER 😱😱
@@npcfredo2225 possibly, or he'd been there before when he was invited or just watched, asked and just knew.....
This was also my freshman year at WKU and we lived in the same dorm. We were in the 5th, she was on the 2nd, i believe. It was awful. I remember seeing her, in passing, sometimes while we were out front smoking she would stop and talk to people nearby. Bless her heart... no one deserves to endure any part of evil.
Is there no entry supervision? Some drunk guy could just follow a drunken dorm resident inside without IDing himself?
@@RogerLewis-ey2ttnope my daughter goes to EKU in Richmond not far from this college is easy to get in and out of those dorms they don’t monitor them I mean you gotta have a key fab to get in but it would be easy to go in behind anyone it’s basically like living in an apartment
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@@Tucker_FarrupThats crazy. When my daughter lived in a dorm even i had to leave my licence at the front desk to run her up groceries. They also recorded all my info.
that must of messed you up....How did you deal with all that?
I think that there is a BIG difference between "not guilty due to lack of evidence" and "innocent". I think that it is VERY possible that both men participated in the crime, but with a lack of evidence against Lucas, they couldn't find him guilty. Again, it doesn't mean that I believe that he is innocent.
Totally agree...that is what I just said and I just read your comment now. He was probably more forensically aware!
I think it's correct that Lucas was not found guilty...he may have been there but with absolutely no evidence that says he was or he did anything...I wouldn't have found him guilty either. Like you said, tho, doesn't mean he was completely innocent.
This type of person will eventually get caught because I think he will continue his crimes
Agree. There are a lot of indicators that Lucas was an active participant in what was done to Katie but based on the trial, there was reasonable doubt so he could not be convicted. It does NOT mean he is innocent.
Yeah…you’d think she’d be aware that “not guilty” absolutely does not equal “innocent”…
Making such quality videos so consistently while also being an amazing mom - thanks Annie ❤we appreciate you
How do know she’s an amazing mom? U don’t.
She has a whole team that helps her. They do the write ups and she does the videos.
@@laraoneal7284what’s the point of making a comment like this?
@@collyl629 i don’t think the comment was meant to be offensive…. Just common sense….
I actually laughed out loud…
I’m an AE junkie - but to pretend that any of us know anything about her personal life is silly…
@@nolasaintsfan I never said I knew about her personal life but what’s the point of making a comment like that? A person complimented her and the other person wanted to invalidate it?
51:28 I hope the college was held accountable in some way for letting these not students into the dorm in the first place. If the RA saw her go to her room alone, how the hell did they get in??
I agree 100%
Easy. At the dorms at my college, I was in the only women-only dorms, but all the other dorms were male/female co-ed and anybody and everybody could just walk in...people would hold the door open for you and you could even ask people where's so-and-so's room and they'd tell ya, especially if they were good looking guys. There's definitely a false sense of security. I don't know but I bet Katie didn't even lock her room door, she was probably so drunk she may have barely made it to her bed, poor girl. What -I- would like to know is why the roommate, after calling her and hearing 2 males and hearing her roommate say "No, no, just leave me alone" and being hung up on...didn't come check on Katie or call the R.A. or call one of her friends to check up on Katie. If I was one or both of the males, I would be worried that the roommate would do that and get the hell out of there...maybe that was what Lucas did and he left Steven there. And nobody heard anything...she's being stabbed with sharp pencils/pens and nobody heard any crying or "help" or anything???
Exactly!
Agree. I was in college at the same time. We had to check in non-students at a desk. Their ids were recorded and they were supposed to remain with us the whole time.
@@amgonyeaThat’s good to know! My college dorm was the same way. It was very hard to get in. I lived with the RA & she was a bit of a mess but she’d do things like warn ppl to chill with their weed smoking if they were bout to get in trouble for it lol.
On the other hand, the college my ex friend went to in 2015-16 was WILD. Everyone could get in & drugs were everywhere. Granted, they finally did something bout it at the end of the year. But only cause the whole dorm was complaining bout my ex friend constantly inviting strange men in, having sex w/ them in the ID locked WOMENS showers, and letting random homeless ppl she met at raves ‘couch surf’ in her dorm for wks/months & giving them her ID to use. Crazy times. I remember one of those 30 y/o ‘strange men’ trying to convince me to sleep with his buddy so he could get more coke. He said to me: “you’re 18. He’ll definitely want you” 🤢🤢🤢. I obviously said no to that ~amazing~ offer lmao.
The part where you said she was flailing in her unconscious state, I don't believe she thought she was still being attacked. She was just in pain. I've been in a coma with a head injury and when I wasn't heavily medicated with morphine I was in excruciating, unbearable pain. My friends and family would see me grab my head and say, " look, she's waking up!" And the doctors had to tell them, "No, she's in a coma, but her brain is telling her it's feeling pain, it's something we do subconsciously even when we're unconscious"
That's super interesting. Thanks for sharing 💕 hope you're doing well!
Totally agree. I've been woken up from four medically induced comas, all from encephalopathy other than one from a shattered skull, you don't think you're still in the situation. Usually it takes ages to even remember what the situation was in the first place
Yep so true. When in that bad of pain
Annie, your channel is my comfort, I have severe health issues at only 35 years old and also have severe anxiety and panic episodes. When I start feeling those episodes coming on, I literally throw my headphones on and tune right in to anyone of your videos. It calms and comforts me. I don't know if it's your voice, or your story telling abilities, but your channel definitely brings me a calmness.
This!! 🙏 xo
Same here … love this channel ❤
Me too-anxiety and panic disorder, hits me daily. I watch Annie, Mr Ballen and a few other true crime/spooky channels, and it transports me away from life, I get to focus on other stuff. I'm not sure what it is either, but it works!
Sameeee
I have terrible anxiety and panic attacks. Keeping busy helps me so much. Listening to podcasts has made a big difference. Annie is the best!
I think both Steven & Lucas were involved. They both lied & their stories didn't add up. Also a parent isn't a great alibi. I think most parents would lie for their kids. I feel really bad for her family🙏
I wouldn't lie for my kids or spouse...you get put away in jail for that! But I w-o-u-l-d either not tell them because I don't remember or refuse to give them any info, or tell LE partial but true parts of the story. If Lucas did eventually really make it home, I'd admit that but even if I knew the time, I'd say I don't recall or don't remember when he got home (when I really did). Stuff like that. But I wouldn't outright lie and say he was home when he never came home that day or night...these things are easy for LE to check and you get into a huge amount of trouble, as well as your kid or spouse, if you do.
@bettywith2girls that's you not everyone. It seems that so many true stories that I watch Parents do lie to protect their kids
Wasn’t it Lucas parent (dad-step dad)who validated his alibi that dies in a car fire? That would be one way to rid any possible way of his actual involvement coming to light.
I think they both did it. I do not think a street kid who had been so drunk he had been throwing up and passed out could come up with the plan of Vaseline, shirt over the sprinkler as the rich kid with a history of violence. There is also a big difference between a top shelf defense with assets to hire investigators and anyone they need for the defense. He had the presence of mind to not leave DNA.
Totally agree!
Beam tea is almost prohibitively expensive. $90 for regular strength and $140 for extra strength. That is EXPENSIVE for a one month supply. I love good sleep but it’s tough when it’s so expensive.
Exactly not worth it in my opinion
For Tea? That's ridiculous, daylight robbery.
Annie must be doing well with this RUclips gig. 😄
Just magnesium oil spray works wonders, at a fraction of the price. Cured my insomnia, I would get such a good rest. I've also found melatonin tablets good.
Camomile tea is cheap.......
My biggest question is for Katie's roommate; WHY didn't she call the RA OR THE POLICE when Katie told her her there was a man that she didn't know in the room with her and then another man entered the room and she clearly heard Katie say she was scared and Katie telling them to leave her alone before the phone gets hung up. My ass would have been racing for someone to either drive me to the dorm or since it wasn't too far away Id have ran there. I understand that Janica had been drinking and wanted to stay partying but she kinda dropped the ball on Kate as well as the guy who drove her home and then dropped Steven off at that corner and watched him walk back towards Katie's dorm. Its truly sad that we have people in society like this,who have no regards to human lives. I 100% feel like BOTH of these guys were involved in SAing Katie. When Lucas decides to leave is when Steven took out his frustrations with Katie for not wanting his advances at the party. He also knows that he would be facing the death penalty so thats why he made the deal of life in prison and then he changed his story once he was on the stand.
I think her friend, being drunk too, probably just brushed it off after speaking with the guy that drove her home. She thought he was to be trusted as the DD and he seemed to have been just making sure Katie was OK before he left. That girl probably felt so much guilt running the "what ifs" in her head over and over for years...💔
Ya her roommate prob thought she was just drunk out of her mind. I mean the DD dropped her off, and maybe she didn't believe her own ears because she was fucked up too. I bet not a day goes by where she doesn't feel bad.
I hate to say it but I don’t know if I or friends would have called the RA much less the police given the situation. They were all underage drinking, so if they called and nothing was wrong everyone would be in “trouble” - being older now that’s obviously stupid thinking but In college we never contacted RAs because they were viewed as “snitches”
I would hope that today if your friend was so drunk you were worried about her choking on her own vomit, you certainly wouldn’t be comfortable leaving her in a room with 2 guys. This is NOT blame for her roommate because regardless of what happened it is not her fault. I am just thankful we have shifted our culture to make girls aware of the vulnerability they have while drunk and to lookout for each others wellbeing.
Stories like these. Make me feel lucky to be alive. This could have happened to me so many different times. It's definitely so scary that you can go out to have fun and something so sick can happen to you. I haven't drank since 2012. I was drugged... anything can happen. It's scary
This!! Amen, sis 🙏 ❤
Same girl. ❤
Same. So many times. I’m very grateful.
Very true.. Thank goodness I had good friends that stayed by my side tho and we always went home/back to school Together.. and Vice versa, but I was very lucky. Stay safe fam 💜🙏✌️
I have to admit, although I felt COMPLETELY SAFE in Melb, OZ. As a student, I'd end up in strange destinations! OK, Melbourne is not a place you'd think of to be sooo grossly attacked, but it's usually opportunists that do harm! We have a few terrible cases, many terrible cases that have been bc of Opportunist's!! Keep your friends close, this is what got me from there to here.... without a mobile/cell within 10 years!
My daughter had lived in that exact hall the year before at WKU. She played in thru soccer team while she was there. This was terrifying and surreal. WKU is a quiet peaceful campus and you never expect anything this horrid. Prayers for her family and loved ones.
Yikes that's terrifying
Thank you for covering this case. I am from Ohio County, KY (where Rosine is, home of Bluegrass Music lol). Rosine is EXTREMELY poverty-stricken, with lots of drug problems and mental health issues. I am so thankful I left, that town does destroy people if you stick around. It's so sad she had gotten away and still didn't get to have the full, happy, life she deserved.
I can't imagine what any rural area is like, I've lived in pretty urban suburbs and run down urban areas only.
The area I live in now is a blighted urban area, economically depressed as they say, was a boom town a literal hundred years ago, but been in decline ever since. In Central NYS.
I gotta say though, being from a very nice, but extremely expensive area, I have so much appreciation for a place like this, where you can work whatever job and actually earn enough to live. That's such a novel thing in modern America, most places are just so expensive.
People I've met who were born here are usually desperate to leave, and they do when and if they have the ability to earn... but I really value how easy life is here. I'll take the bit of blight and drug addiction and whatever, I think that's an easy trade.
I think I'd hate any rural area though. Never experienced one, but I can't imagine I'd like it
@@buttlord4204I live in a rural area and drugs are bad here, particularly m3th. I think it has a lot to do with not having anything to do for fun so people do drugs, drink alcohol, and have parties to have fun.
@@buttlord4204It's very dark and quiet at night which definitely takes getting used to if you're not from there. You also would have to enjoy nature and wildlife and be prepared to deal with any kind of pests with a firearm whether you like hunting or not. I lived in West Virginia for a time.
I liked the slow pace and privacy. I love nature too. I live in an outer suburb of a Midwest metropolis now. You're absolutely right about how expensive it is and I know I have to move somewhere less expensive.
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@@error404webpagenotfound Exactly what you said. I grew up in the same shithole type small junkie town place, but a bit further north than you guys. Canada. And it is absolutely that place of which if you were born there and do not run fast and run far, the fentanyl will find and kill you even faster. It is FAR worse now than when I was a kid. I would be more than happy if literally everyone from there just up and said "Fuck it; let's go find somewhere with something real to do.." and bulldoze the town under and allow it to be retaken by nature. The fact that one of the true hard realities of life came and took her in such an even more horrific way after she did so much to leave such a similar place is just a travesty which will take me a day or two to stop thinking over in my head.
Thank you for covering this. I am from the area and also went to WKU. This case caused a lot of controversy at the time and it’s always stuck with me.
My biggest question is if the RA saw her alone and the Pledge driver dropped her off alone at the dorm, how did these guys know where her room was? How were two of them able to connect in a short time and also find what room she is in? I think something is off here? The pledge driver may know more I suspect
Annie I watch to you every day and it surprised me that you’re doing a story from the town I live in. I live about 5 minutes from WKU. I never knew Katie, but it definitely racked the community. She seemed like such a sweet soul. It’s crazy to think about the links to the Dollar General founders family. You should also look into the case of Morgan Violi. She was a little girl that was kidnapped and murdered here back in the 90s. It was never solved. She was found in Tennessee. It was actually on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries.
I haven't finished watching so maybe it comes up later, but steven being cleared bc he has a friend who gave him an alibi is stupid bc 2 men were heard on the phone in her room when she was killed. The other guy could've been Steven's friend who gave the alibi 🤦♀️
I'm a new truck driver just started 3 weeks ago.. This is the best channel to listen to by far. It's going to be a bad day when I have listened to all the material on this channel.
Also, her family filed a $200,000 wrongful death suit. Idk what the verdict was, but I feel it should be honored knowing that he wasn't even a student of the school, which means the RA wasn't concerned with anyone's safety that evening along with the school itself. My heart goes out to Katie's family and for the emotional toll it still takes on them after all of these years, 20 years later to be exact. They stand out in the street holding signs up with her picture just to make sure she is NEVER forgotten. I know her mom said that no one should be forgotten after passing, but especially someone who had to go through something so awful should be honored in every which way & refuse to let people forget about her.
Found Katie’s death heartbreaking, can’t imagine that being my daughter. Would be interesting to find out about civil case it should be for more as she died in horrific circumstances. Really hope someone tells them exactly what happened 1 day as in if there were 1 or 2 men.
No one in the world deserves this kind of violence, a person who is doing their thing and not doing anything wrong just minding their own business Never deserves to be killed for nothing. Now I would kill someone if they were trying to harm me or my family, or breaking into my house. That's a defense kill and totally different than hurting someone.
Err, she grew up in the foster system. They weren't all that caring then.
Let's not pretend like Katie's family is loved or cared about her, she was in foster care so them asking for money is wierd
@@anni610 I definitely think it was 2 people. Whether or not 2 people commited the actual crime I fully believe the other person knew about it & helped cover it up
I live in bowling green, so I'm so so so happy to see you covering this case ! It has always given me chills
Thank you so much for not blaming the victims! ❤
my niece was in foster care in south western VA, not far from KY. it’s extremely remote; 2 hours to the nearest walmart 😳 i learned that many older people there foster children for the income. she didn’t have it easy, the lady worked her hard; i wouldn’t say total abuse but borderline. the lady didn’t like that her biological family was involved, listened to her phone calls to us, weird things. i eventually got visitation rights & that’s when we learned what was going on. she called her social worker & got moved to a new home. i could have gotten custody but she was about to graduate & for once had been in the same school for several years, i asked her what she wanted & she wanted to graduate with her friends. she did move in with me after graduating & went to college. she actually got the foster money & benefits while in college. it’s a shame how many children are in foster homes, and the reason people decide to be foster parents isn’t always the best reason.
My mom was in foster care in the 60s and 70s and this was a common thing then... old maids who luckily inherited a house, would cram 8 girls into one tiny room, 8 boys into another tiny room, and run it like a business... spend as close to nothing on them as possible, to profit off the SSI survivor benefits or whatever SS money these kids get.
Sadly, back then, this was one of the more preferable placements, despite being a bad situation, a loveless home where you're impoverished... because at any point before right around 1980, the foster care system was chock full of predators
Kids weren't believed and society was still at a point where they were so conservative, that they refused to entertain the idea that this kind of predation was common. You would almost 100% get away with it, so many men who, these days, the likelihood of arrest is all that stops them, they had no reason to not offend. Really messed up situation
Thank God things are now better, but I doubt they're anything resembling good, even after all this time and progress
Your foster & adoption system in the US is horrific, here in NZ its virtually impossible to adopt & extremely difficult to foster, its not fail safe but it is closely monitored. I am a foster mum, a teacher, a qualified child psych etc with many years working for the Ministry of Education etc & had to jump through reams of red tape to qualify plus the $ paid is closely monitored & accounted for.
@@buttlord4204 so sad for your mum & we would expect it to be alot better now but in reality its not.
@@nikkimclay5474 yeah, it's better in the sense that over 40 years ago, it was a free-for-all smorgasbord for child predators, there pretty much wasn't even such a thing as "being caught" because even if a child, or multiple children, went straight to the police and told them exactly what happened to them, the cops would simply drive them back to the home and tell the predator that the kid was telling "wild stories" about them.
Kids wouldn't ever be listened to when they made these kinds of claims, with the only exceptions being in case of extreme injury, or if, say, some vagrant, or a minority harmed a child, and then that child told their father, and then the father went to the police, wanting charges to be pressed.
Society as a whole... apparently this is true for all socially conservative societies, past and present, just did not want to believe adults did such things to children, so they refused to believe it. "Kids lie," and sometimes those lies are pretty wild, case closed
I have no doubt it isn't still terrible though. But there was a time, not long back, when it was really nightmarishly bad, a time when every kid who entered the system was going to be being passed between the clutches of predators, as a guarantee. Not to say every child would be abused, but ever child would pass through a house where children are abused in that way, and be at the mercy of those kind of monsters.
The system refused to believe those kinds of predators existed, ignored warnings about them, and actively continued to send them children, even after long years of many accusations being made. Children were just never believed
"Innocent" and "not guilty" are not the same thing. Lucas was found "not guilty" but that doesn't mean he's innocent. I think they were both involved.
With what proof do you believe that.
Ya, but the evidence shows that he most likely was innocent.. zero finger prints/DNA, and It's just a person who says someone that looked like him was in the dorm during the chaos of the fire, which doesn't seem possible cuz receipts show him in another location at the time.
Oh my gosh! I am from Bowling Green Kentucky and remembered when this happened... I also went to WKU but stayed in a different dormitory than she did. There is always such an uneasy feeling walking past her dorm though.. even still to this day.. thank you for covering this case.🙏❤️
The jury doesn’t find someone innocent. Our court systems are designed to specifically not do that. Lucas was found not guilty because the case was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There was far too much doubt for a jury to convict him, sadly. I just wanted to throw that out there. ❤
it wasn't just doubt though, there was NO EVIDENCE,an Stephen told 4 diff stories,i think he knew the dude has a temper an domestic stuff, an knew people would just assume he was involved(which reading this comment section,is true) there would of been some evidence, he wasn't in the cart was just the pledge,katie n Steven.Lucas has a recipe for gas on the way home, before the fire so..either was its just awful what that poor girl had went thru,if he was so drunk,an motive was assault, why stab her an light her on fire? smh
@@brandy_lishYou are correct. I think people are emotional here and want people to blame, but Stephen is a huge liar and a confessed murderer. There was no evidence of any involvement by Lucas and his alibi is good. I think a deficiency of the police investigation and subsequent media reporting was no examination of the relationship between Stephen and Lucas, and why he might want to lie on him.
Additionally, Stephen had to find Katy’S room somehow; he had talk to other students at the building- the investigation seems incomplete.
Bottom line, Lucas’ verdict was sound. The fact that he isn’t a likeable guy, is unrelated.
Love your work, Annie! Just a reminder that a verdict of not guilty does NOT mean someone was "found innocent" - it just means the state didn't meet their burden of proof. Criminal juries never decide whether someone is innocent. Love, a fellow millenial who remembers VHS tapes
Just finished watching some of your old videos. You’ve evolved so much! Thank you for taking the time to cover these cases & sharing them with us.
I appreciate you more than you’ll ever know!
Wow that is so incredibly nice. Thank you!!
I went to The University of Florida when the Gainesville Ripper, Danny Rollings, was murdering students. I lived in the same apartments as Tracy Paules and Manny Taboda, 7:11 2 of the total of 8 victims murdered by Rollings. It was over 30 years ago, and I still suffer from PTSD from it.
Gainesville is my hometown. We lived just past Hawthorne and our two were in high school then. Christa Hoyt graduated Newberry High with my nephew and they were extremely good friends. He was a freshman at UF when it happened and her death affected him greatly. Tracey Paules grew up next door to my former husband's best friend and she had actually come with him to tailgate at our motorhome Homecoming of the previous year. An absolutely lovely young woman. My former husband lived in Gatorwood apartments when we met. He had just finished his medical residency. So many connections. I was actually born at AGH when Daddy was teaching and coaching basketball at GHS. They made state championship every year. Daddy even interviewed for head coach at UF and was offered the job IF Norm Sloan decided not to take it. Obviously, Norm took the job. Gainesville was very different then. This was the 1950s. I miss Gainesville.
Extra tidbit: Mother went into labor with me at Gator Growl. GO GATORS!
One thing that stands out to me is how unlikely that someone black out drunk could think through so many ways to cover up. Of course maybe he wasn’t that drunk.
and or he had alot of help ?
Or he pretended to be drunk to look for a victim he knew that guy was driving drunk students home
@@aselyne5631yup I think he was preying/hunting for drunk students. The fact that after Katie was dropped off, he all of a sudden sobered up near of her house?
I love that you explained what a answering machine is lol
These new kids honestly don't know and think we are kidding when we talk about it 😅
I’ve never seen a vhs 📼 the size of a shoebox tho 😂 or an answering machine
@@Sheila74they def weren’t that big 😂
That made me feel so old 😂
Annie you are literally on fire with all these new videos, just in time for my schoolwork 🎉❤
Yay! Thank you!
Annie on in the background while doing schoolwork is the only way
@@Cyber_Sleuth_Steph yes! If she posted a video everyday I would be the happiest person ever haha. The early release on Patreon gets me so hype haha.
Hi Annie. I've never heard of this case. What I don't understand is why both suspects didn't get arrested. Hopefully her family & friends can endure these tough times,& stay strong throughout the very complex grieving process. Thanks for being such an awesome storyteller, & special true crime bestie. Peace to you & your beautiful family as well, love, Janine Smiley🙂🙃🫠😉😗😘🥰😍💞💕
Here's an interesting thought. Steven is not a student at the university. However, he attended parties there on the regular. I'd be interested to know how many times he "passed out in a DD vehicle ", maybe university parties were a fertile hunting ground for a sexual predator looking for intoxicated victims.
That’s an excellent theory! He may not have been drunk at all and that would explain how they were able to commit this with the sophistication.
It's truth and reconciliation day in Canada today. I'd love it if you'd look into our highway of tears, the missing and murdered indigenous women and girls have been occurring along it for decades, yet nobody talks about it!
I’ve read about the highway of tears. So very sad and tragic!! 😢😢
It used to be the Royals coming into Canada. They were banned (just 2, I think) from ever returning and the records were sealed for several decades. They're both dead now.
Annie! You are my absolute favorite and I'm so glad you covered this case. This case has always given me chills. Lucas comes into my work every morning and I always feel so uneasy...
really ? omg thats spooky ! do you feel uneasy because you know the story ?or does he just make you feel uneasy ? I think he must have been involved , there was so much cover up details that 1 drunk guy prob wouldnt think of himself
Stay safe
Anyone who sets someone on fire while alive, deserves the same treatment. 😡🤬🤬
Constantly bringing quality content ❤ You never stop, Annie 🎉
This is a horrible story😢 Also, when you explained what an answering machine was, I felt so so old…
And the VHS
😂😂😥😖
Putting vaseline on a door knob seems like an awful lot of thought went into the crime.
Super off topic,but the fact that @Annie had to explain what an answering machine was,makes me feel very old haha
I love you, Annie! thanks for always being there i love your videos and you are an amazing voice for victims.
Yesss so many true crime channels of the past were so pessimistic and even predatory. Annie is part of the very first wave of people covering this material with humanity. The best you could hope for before this, was cold detachment.
Annie how do you do it you are truly amazing being a mom of 2 little ones a wife and still putting these great videos out really takes dedication 👏👏👏👏👏
I don’t really cry when you speak of these grotesque cases but I couldn’t help but cry as soon as you said “she sadly ended up passing away with her sister lying next to her and other close family members near by” or something because wow 😢
I was roofied at a concert. Thankfully I was a firefighter and knew that the half a beer I had should not have been making me feel the way it was. Thankfully I was with several friends a few of which were medics in the military. They got me to the car and got me to an urgent care. Shout out to the concert security guards that thought my friends were being shady and checking on me before letting us go. I don’t like thinking about what would have happened if I was alone or had been pregaming
I’d not heard of this story before. How heartbreaking. I always remind my daughter to go with another friend and return with that same friend. I pray she takes me seriously. When I think of how many times I didn’t do that. The risks I took when I was in my early twenties. Not that Katie did anything wrong. She got a ride home from a designated driver provided by the Fraternity. She probably assumed she would be safe.
My daughter was lucky, her Freshman year dorm mate was really nice. They are still roommates and they’re in the Junior year now. I’m hoping they can make it through their Senior year too. It’s so nice to see them get along so well. Her roommates parents are nice people too. Also, I don’t want to have to move her again, but I (her dad as well) would do anything for her if for some reason she was uncomfortable or unhappy with her living situation.
OMG. It is not victim blaming to say young women shouldn't be so intoxicated that they aren't able to look after themselves. Yes, Katie did everything wrong! She got drunk. She slept around. She was a sex worker. She made very bad life choices. Would you want any of that for your daughters? No, of course not. So therefore they are very bad decisions and we can blame someone who makes them! Sheesh.
Annie, if a VHS tape is dating you, what do you think a cassette tape is doing to me!?!?😂
I owned a Walkman. I’m with you. Lol
I actually used to repair VHS VCRs, cassette players, and occasionally a walkman :)
That is dating myself, right? I'm only 42
Man I thought I felt old when you described the answering machine … but the VHS description …. Now I feel ancient 😂😂
@annieelise, you have a natural gift for storytelling and you show extreme kindness to the family's of crime victims.
Katie and I were stunt partners on our high school cheerleading team. She was one of the sweetest souls. I’ll never forget the day I found out the news. Those guys are cruel monsters.
Thanks for your dedication Annie, these videos get me through my overnight feedings with my newborn 😅 love from Australia ❤
Congratulations Mamma! You got this ! ❤
Ohhhh…that’s so wonderful, congratulations 🎉 🧸🎈🛍️🔮🦄🌷
You are so welcome! And congratulations!!!
❤ congrats!
❤ much love and sending comfort and strength ❤
She and I were Freshman together and I lived in that same dorm as she did the semester before. (I moved to a different one for 2nd semester). I wasn't close with her but we had mutual friends and hung out a few times in group get togethers. Her room was a few floors down directly under the room I had been living in. Still think about this, this many years later!
The jury done what was asked, they found reasonable doubt with Lucas, and there was no forensic evidence of him,I would have done the same . But i absolutely understand how the family must feel. He does sound like a prick tbh. What a evil crime, this poor girl, so unnecessary.
Thank you for covering this case … and making me
Feel super old because we now have to explain what an answering machine is 😂😂😂. Those were super fancy when they first came out 😂😂
Don't forget the VHS. 😂
Can you please cover the recent murder of Taylor Marshall in Sault Ste Marie, Ontario, Canada? A random man from 8 hours away came to my hometown, attempted to murder someone on a public boardwalk than murdered Taylor in a home. He allegedly was not known to either people. No one is covering this. Please help.
YES!!! My Uncle Pierre was just telling me about this yesterday and I would love to have a Deep Dive from our Amazing #1 Bestie Annie, who goes above and beyond for every single victim she covers!!
What an excellent episode. You are so articulate in explaining the events! And also, kudos on being able to look beautiful when parting your hair on either side!
I appreciate the State of Kentucky allowing foster kids to get help after they turn 18.
How awesome that they would pay for COLLEGE?
A benefit when Katie Autry was in school around 2003 and not necessarily a benefit provided today. I find it so notable that Katie gave up this benefit by opting out of the Foster system, to me it seems like there must have been a major reason for her to give up this advantage when it seems she (like many college students) needed all the aid she could get at that time.
I was just thinking how great your roommates were to stay with you and NEVER LEAVE YOUR SIDE. TO ME THEY'RE YOUR FRIEND'S AND YOUR HERO'S. IT SEEMS THAT POOR KATIE DIDN'T HAVE A DECENT ROOMMATE, BECAUSE SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE EVER ALLOWED HER TO BE TAKEN HOME IN SUCH A DEBILITATING STATE. SHE WASN'T AS LUCKY AS YOU WERE. I'M JUST ASTONISHED THAT HER ROOMMATE WASN'T' EVEN CHARGED FOR RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT. I SURE HOPE AND PRAY THAT KATIE'S FAMILY WILL FIND A PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ONLY GOD CAN
GRACE THEM WITH. HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO KATIE, AND THEY'LL NEVER GET PAST HIS JUDGEMENT, BECAUSE HE SEE'S EVERYTHING, & HE KNOWS EVERYTHING. THAT'S THE ONLY COMFORT I GET WHEN THING'S LIKE THIS HAPPENS. GOD WILL BE THERE
ON JUDGEMENT DAY. R.I.P. BEAUTIFUL
KATIE GIRL. I'D RATHER BE IN HEAVEN THAN IN THIS HORRIBLE WORLD THESE DAY'S AND TIME'S. IT'S BEEN OVER TWENTY YEAR'S, AND IT'S GOTTEN WORSE OUT THERE. ALL COLLEGE GIRL'S AND MEN, STAY FOCUSED, ALERT AND
SOBER, BECAUSE YOUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT. YOUR PARENT'S HOPE & PRAY FOR
Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY YOUR COLLEGE DAY'S AND THE STARTING OF YOUR CAREERS AND DREAM'S COMING
TRUE AND YOUR FUTURE'S.❤🤟💋🙏✝️
Maybe it was a reward for making through the foster system alive and mentally stable enough to consider doing a college degree. We hear a lot about the little ones who don't make it through.
Kentucky isn't the only state that provides that benefit either and a lot of times it isn't give/ used. So yes it's nice on paper but that's all. This is coming from someone who grew up in the system in Virginia
@@Platinum907they do still offer this, at least in Florida. I have free college until I’m 26.
Annie explaining what a VHS tape was made me feel so old. Talk about a slap in the face lmao
I love how a video is always uploaded at the best times! ❤
This is so close to my hometown, thank you for covering this case, somehow I have never heard of it. You're the best Annie keep slaying queen 👑
Thank you for always making these videos 💯❤️🤞🏼
Glad you like them!
I went to WKU when this happened. Many of my friends lived in that dorm. I know what happened. It'll be interesting to see what your take is on it from an outsider's perspective. I have only listened to the intro so far but I already know exactly what controversy you're about to talk about.
Hi Annie Ross from Scotland 🏴 here loving your channel keep it coming I’m loving it 😊
Thanks so much! 😊
How did they get into her room? Someone was at the front desk, they saw her come in alone.
You're amazing! Thank you for constantly bringing us content! You're always thorough and compassionate! ❤
Thank you so much!
I thought that living in the dorm meant that it was pretty regulated on the coming and going of people … I never lived in a dorm, but I think I remember that. Taking into consideration that was long before this happened. This is such a sad horrible story.
I think they were both involved. Maybe it was not L idea to try to cover up. But I think they were both involved in SA, but then either left or got out asap. Then drove home. They should both be in jail.
Dorms I lived in had key card entries that any student ID can open. They locked, but the whole student population had access.
My dorm had card keys but also desk attendants. Boys were not allowed in except during visiting hours and had to be checked in with ID and paperwork. It was pretty strict. But people still managed to sneak in their boyfriends for the night. I mean an attendant may or may not care. The boys dorm were wide open. Anyone could come and go and stay the night. They were also very gross. Pee in the ice machine. Pee in the stairwells and halls. Gross.
@@thistles I agree. I stayed in the only dorm at my college that didn't allow men in (women only), and especially in the rooms...but all the other dorms allowed anybody and everybody in, anybody would hold the door for anybody to just walk in. It was actually very common for one of the girl roommates of a room to basically allow her boyfriend to move in, sleep with her every night & have sex (the other roommate would either have to leave her room or cover her ears), and basically live with his GF in her room...and the other roommate had to put up with it. It doesn't surprise me at all that the two guys (Steven & Lucas) were able to just walk in, not "with" Katie, but after her as she was not seen with anybody. They didn't even have to follow her in...maybe the sober guy driving them asked her what her room number was with the intent to walk her to her room but then was persuaded to just drop her off at the dorm door and make sure she walked in? Dorms definitely have a false sense of security to them.
I lived in a dorm at UCLA in the late 60's , boys and girls lived on separate floors since there were shared bathrooms, but there was no security and anyone could walk in and use the elevators or common rooms. Luckily, I don't remember any problems in those more innocent days.
TY Annie and team. Remarkable how you can produce all the intrinsic facts even 20 years ago!! Horrible case!
Bowling Green is where Corvettes are made!
Lucas,, at the very least,,, Did not help Katie!
Just woke up from a bad dream and somehow true crime with my bestie is the way to fix it all. Thanks for all you do Annie❤
P.s. your hubby just watching your sleepy tea ad was so funny and cute😂
Let’s fix it bestie!!! ❤
Lol too cute 💜
My question is, couldn't the investigators do a voice line up thing for Katie's friend, Danica? She did hear the 2 guys on the phone, so she'll know he voice possibly if she hears it again. Have all the suspects say what she heard without her seeing their face, so her judgement isn't impaired.
Any memory tests like voice lineups are notorious for being wrong a majority of the time.
She had been drinking. It would bever be allowed. Beyond that if she picked the wrong voice it would help the defense immensely.
Oh my gosh I live in Bowling Green and go to school at WKU. Can’t believe you did this story! I’ve never heard it but it’s crazy to think that happened on our campus.
This is so horrifying. I don’t want to sound insensitive but I can’t understand why Katie’s roommate didn’t immediately go back to their room! I mean, 2 guys in a drunk girl’s room? Very sus!
Well look at Dylan with Idaho 4. She went back to bed supposedly and 911 not called for 8 hours. Definitely sus. However kids this age think they are invincible and nothing bad will ever happen to them. They are also very selfish and I’m noticing more and more of this generation is not growing out of the selfish phase. Maybe I’m just middle aged but life is not all roses and rainbows. In fact, it’s rarely that at all.
Annie i looove the fact that you did a infomercial without makeup. I love you for that. You look so pretty w/o makeup. A true beauty
Victim blaming is hateful and disgusting! Do everything to take care of friends. If it seems weird or strange, trust your instincts and call law enforcement. Please do not leave anyone alone if there are vulnerabilities. ❤🙏🏼
So this is my home town.
I remember this.
Also Lucas worked for me in 2017, we didn’t know who he was until about 3 months of him working there. He ran off, never came back.
Thanks for this Annie! Starting another weekend with my bestie!
🥰❤️🥰
I’ve been fucked up so many times since I was 15 till 21 so messed up to the fact I woke up not knowing where and when I was… I’m happy I’m still alive and I now don’t not only drink as much but also drinking when I don’t absolutely trust trust someone to get me out of a situation . Thank you girl; thanks for everything you describe because it is great input to the whole story!
After heavily drinking, I seriously doubt Steven's ability to not only consider the sophisticated tactics involved but also to carry them out... I'm convinced he did not act alone. I hope folks keep a watchful eye on Lucas because that level of devious behavior doesn't just disappear. This is such a multifaceted tragedy. 💯
its been 20 years,Lucas has had minor issues with the law, just bc Steven was drunk ,doesn't mean he didn't do this whole thing himself,i think the friend was mistaken that their was 2 guys, there was dna,evidence,NONE Lucas's,i know its easy to just assume someone was involved, but with the evidence(or lack there of) I think its clear he didn't do this, like Stephen saying"oh he made him assault Katie.." like come on, he just new bc he been in trouble that people would have no trouble believing he did this, but he didn't ,Stephen did it all, had he had an accomplice he would have DEF turned him in
I wanted to watch this morning when it posted but I'm trying to give my family a true crime break. I love your videos
Thank you for making my morning more pleasant and giving me something to listen to and focus on aside from my chaotic world. Thanks darlin or another great video!!!!
I absolutely adore the way you cover these crimes! Your empathy is clearly showing in every episode! You’re a fantastic human being so proud of you. Will definitely keep supporting you!, 🖤🖤
I have no clue!!!! This so esoteric, creepy and so devastating to family, friends and many who loved and cared about her! May she rest in eternity! Thank you Annie this one was very difficult to hear and I appreciate your continued deep dives for the victims and their families! Until the next time…stay safe!!❤
Annie, I love how you break everything down your amazing if & when I have the money I would love to subscribe to your live shows, thank you for all of your hard work 💗
Annie I just want to thank you for being you. You're one in a million kid
Love your videos, Annie! ❤ Hate that you have to explain an answering machine for the youngsters 😅😅
Makes one feel old. I did like those old things, great way to screen calls!
Hey Annie 💗 love your videos! Keep ‘em comin!
This was my school! We heard about this story many times. It’s very sad 💔
Annie, a VHS tape is definitely not as big as a shoe box. It's about an inch or so high about 5 inches deep and maybe 10 or so inches long...maybe as big a kid's shoebox.
This case is horrific, Thanks Annie for your awesomeness!! I leave in 1 hour away from this horrific crime,this one hurts my heart!!!❤❤❤❤
The fireman's words have given me full-body chills.
I love seeing your videos on The Law & Crime Network. 😊
Sweet little Harmony's face in the intro, gets me every time. Poor little sweetie. 😢
Your amazing! Thank you for your dedication to these cases. Cases we would never even know about if you didn’t discuss them there’s a lot of evil in this world, unseen evil. Thank you for bringing it to light.
Yup. Things are always getting better, but part of that process is, you have to plumb the depths of that evil. Denying it and ignoring it let's it thrive. Got to bring it to light as the first step before anything can be done about it.
So funny you have to explain what a VHS tape is. I grew up on those. Great coverage, thanks Annie!
Okay, so even if Steven was 'smart' to try to cover the crime he was
1) still heavily intoxicated and there most likely clumsy
2) whomever was there heard the roommate say she'd be home soon
3) how would one drunk guy think and complete all of these things knowing his time was up with every second he used??
There is no way he did it alone.
This poor woman and omg her family/friends.❤
How can someone notice tiny Katie come home alone and not notice 2, non residents, coming in?
Honestly a worse one to me than this was the phd student Annie Le literally unalived in her lab at Yale right before her wedding. I think about it all the time. I hope you will consider covering it as I don’t think it gets enough attention. It’s horrible.
A worse one? We're comparing worse assaults? U mean one just as bad?
That case is tragic as well.
Is that the young lady that was stuck inside the wall?
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