For real, F(x) literally can Rival 2.5 gen girl groups. The fact that they had two IT girls in one group, Top tier Vocal member, and revolutionary member Amber, but SM treated them poorly. If they just did them better, we would have F(x) until now. I remember how many times I played Red Light when it was first released. F(x) was way too ahead of their time. 🥺
You can't just lose someone like BoA .. somebody who is the Queen of k-pop.. and think your standing as the major kpop company with a good reputation can continue. Losing someone who has spent 26 years with the company and saved the company from bankruptcy is really crazy to me.
Old idols are as important as young idols and young idols are there by contract. If the best trainees weren't going to SM that would be a mortal issue.
SM's downfall started with Jessica Jung being removed from SNSD at the height of their career. Followed by F(X) just quietly going on hiatus / disbandment and Super Junior members being removed or leaving one by one and the boys of EXO filing a lawsuit similar to what happened in DBSK and Super Junior. And then both Jonghyun and Sulli's tragic fates. SM's strength and popularity came from their 2nd Gen groups. The way they *completely* failed to take care of these people was a telltale sign and the undeniable beginning of the end of SM ENT.
With due respect while correct it really stated with Boa here. I get while some people see her as an old lady. Yet this old lady is the foundation which the K-Pop industry grew on point blank!! There would be no SM Entertainment without Boa and SM knows it. Her situation reminds me a bit of Namie Amuro's. That girl was flat out erased from existence!! All because she retired on her terms. Nice to know your legecy means jack s*** to this corporate parasites. They see you as just a product to be exploited. :(
Jonghyun had a depression since very young age and visited a doctor, company has nothing to do with it. stop using his and Sulli's names in the company discussions
Yeah I don’t blame them for leaving honestly. I mean EXO-CBX, Taemin of Shinee, Sunny of Girls’ Generation, Donghae, Eunhyuk, and Kyuhyun from Super Junior, I mean they left for a reason. SM is just a hell hole. The artists were so close with Lee Soo-man and now that he’s been kicked, the artists just feel like it’s better to leave it seems, and I don’t blame them.
@@dear7003 That’s technically not true because SHINee is going to have concert next month (may) where Onew is going to return to the group after a hiatus.
They're not leaving because they're mistreated ... they're leaving because they're getting older ... like Heechul said that he no longer cares about being an idol anymore , and that he'll finally live his life the way he wants to after 19 years in the Kpop entertainment .
@@KAISOO680 that's not what I meant. I know that Onew is still in the group, I said he renewed his group contract in 2023. I meant his solo contract is under different agency now
The most shocking one was CBX’s lawsuit against SM. Atleast the others didn’t sue their company. But no EXO especially Baekhyun doesn’t take bullshit.. he will sue anyone who discriminates,talk unfounded nonsense and harass him. The only reason CBX went back was for EXO. It was for the EXO’s legendary We are One and the promise they made to EXO-Ls.
In an industry that debuted teens, tweens.. 37 is old. It's in a context of Kpop industry. Idols. Even then, 'Old' is not a bad term. . Super Junior often jokes about themselves being on their 30s and called Super 'Junior'.
@@martinramirez4433but in movies almost all the actress who portray a single working women are aged between 32-40 in the movies. I am inclined to believe 40 is like the limit of females looking for husbands who have good work.
Big 3 company having issues with their idols and staffs. (YG and SM losing their biggest artists, JYP not promoting their idol groups properly) Hybe having a civil war moment. Dang, idk what's happening to kpop anymore.
@@Yes_1998 I kinda agree with you. I started stuning kpop way back 2nd gen where they prioritize more in making high quality music. It's so sad this is dying in the new generation. 😢
As an SM stan, it's honestly saddening to see. But I'm also kind of glad, since they all are literal gems in this industry and no company would hesitate to take them in and treat them a 100x better. I just hope this doesn't affect groups like Aespa, NCT or Riize in a negative way, since these groups still have time for their contract ends. Regardless of company, let's continue supporting the artists!
lol sm idols will continue to fail 😂 just look at nct…almost a decade and still haven’t made an impact outside of Asia. This is what happens when you have sm lip sync 24:7
@@TheShadowsFearXyour faves look up to SM senior artists and call them their idols. even their senior artists just become more and more successful and popular with each comeback. your comments are just embarrassing and very childish. your little mind is full of kpop stans stereotypes and you don't know a thing about SM idols
Add to the list SNSD's Taeyeon. She made puns about SM and flirted with the idea of leaving. I'm sure if she finds a better company, she'll go away too.
you mean to tell me if exo was under another company they would not be as talented? SM did not produce those vocals, they just picked talented people and mistreated those people... some companies focus on visuals, others vocals, others concepts... SM just happened to focus on vocals
There is no denying that idols from sm CAN sing well. But kpop fans also need to realize that groups who are not under big companies exist some can sing, rap even better than famous idols and have even better discography than famous groups. SM also have weak singers - Irene, Yeri for example (I don't follow boy groups so I can't comment on them) yet they will always be more praised than idols who are not very known but are 10000000 times more talented than them. So kpop stans should wake up actually and look around you'll see and hear much more idols who cam actually sing.
Also Boa being called greedy for being in the group and how ageist people are nowadays says alot about both kpop and society. People bullied her into retirement because of her age… jesus christ. Kpop will never change. And now they debut 12 year olds. I know western fans say they don’t want kids in kpop and that they want older and adult idols but then have turned around and say the most horrid weird age sh*t to female idols. Annoying hypocrites
Look in the mirror. It's fans everywhere. SM has filed lawsuits both IN Korea and internationally. Location has nothing to do with it. I do totally agree with you, though, on debuting children. They should be allowed to live a somewhat normal life and allow their bodies to grow more before all the wear-and-tear. You look at elite-level gymnasts who are older now and their bodies have all kinds of issues. Plus throwing kids into any sexualized industry is just disgusting and wrong.
@@mbrow i never said other countries and people don’t do it but as a westerner I mainly read and see western fan’s opinions and hypocrisy on aging and idols. But yes the debuting children thing is weird and it is getting more and more common to debut them younger and younger and entire groups being young minors. The average debut age should be at least 16 and mainly people in their early 20s. Also just imagining the unhealthy diets and intense physical exertion along with image expectations I cant imagine the difficulty these kids will have when they get older. Honestly makes me angry and how easily some fans accept it.
@@Riu-bw4bl Thanks for the clarification. I'm from the USA. Taemin is my ult and he debuted at age 14...but it's strange to think that he signed with SM when he was 11/12. I was a stupid idiot when I was that age, so imagine the weight on his shoulders (and all of them). I guess it's similar to kids in the tv and film industry. SLIGHT improvements have been made there, but I really think that a separate 3rd party, paid by the studios and with no financial gain, should be assigned to manage at least some of the money these kids make. Anyway, that's another tangent, lol.
we've seen this coming from a mile away ever since the LSM-HYBE issue. the top management keeping all their secrets have been exposed leaving their employees including their artists in the dark of what's happening in the company. i think that's what made a lot of our beloved artists think about their future. & i so agree about their so-called helpline never worked! i don't see anyone getting in trouble ever. they should've been the ones vigilant about this since they have been experiencing this over the years! they have never even once lifted a finger over protecting the ones that literally makes them money. & i don't think they can get out of their messes since they never even tried to clean it up anyways.
I think to with the global raise of Kpop, artists have so many options in regards to companies they can move to when their contracts are up. Its about time companies were held accountable and start paying artist and workers decently.
@@Anyaaaah baby monster is not doing as well as I think they were expected to, artists left yg including blackpink kinda. Same with jyp groups like nmixx. They are doing ok but I don’t think near the standard/quality of some other groups from other companies. The standards used to be high for the big 3/4 but some of them just keep missing.
hybe will be good with bts comeback and seventeen also txt and enhypen are doing ok(I assumed all GGs got affected by the current drama which is not my opinion tbh). JYP will be ok with straykids and maybe nmixx. the girls aren't as big but they are doing better. YG is in between cause BP is up in the air and might release an album really late. Baemon are promising but still young. The rest aren't going anywhere so it depends on the 2 ggs for now. SM needs help from Kakoa or they'll be gone in my opinion nct alone won't be enough esp with the military starting for them
Sm is really poor in managing artist and treating them well so their is no doubt why everyone is leaving sm and it's better decision who going to stay in such nasty company sm is really going downfall bcz all the money maker in sm leaving so it's really bad for company
And now Taemin has his own solo official fanclub, his own solo official lighstick, a World Tour... I´m so glad he left that company that was mistreating him so badly!
@@Hgoenge81 his music is as good because he's working with the same team lmao. You haven't heard about mistreatment because you're not even his fan nor care about him, so I'm not even going to list you every time they mistreated him. And no, he's not signed with SHINee. He doesn't have a group contract. He will need to sign a temporary contract with SM for every SHINee activity, same as Onew. That's why they're not participating in recent SHINee activities.
The fact that Boa gets any hate is wild. She's an ICON and these netizens should learn to appreciate how kpop got big as it did. Netizens are so toxic it's crazy.
btw, sunny is lee soo man's niece...how bad things have to be for her to leave? also!!!! boa literally saved sm from ruins!!! the way they treat her now is unbelievable
Although it was shocking that Taemina & Onew left the company, but I really wish they will have better conditions in the new companies. I really wish Lee SoMan start a new company & ask SHINee to join & live the comfort of the past years..
“Tragic downfall” is kind of sensationalist. SM goes through a “tragic downfall” every few years, with scandals or people leaving and then it sort of pops back up like an annoying weed. In reality, all it would take is Kakao kicking current management and putting someone better in and they’d be on their way back up. That said, they have the capability to build themselves back up, whether it be from the ruins of a former company or from the foundation.
The issue is that the company is now mid-size company (from financial point of view) and the big artists that can rescue them quickly are leaving one by one so if they don't move quickly, I think it will be big 2 instead of 3
@@shorouk1172 the concept of big 3 at this point has more to do with impact than financial status. YG, JYP, and SM set the standard on what kpop could be and every single group in those companies and out of them have built on top of that. Like, you can’t erase that contributions they made and kpop wouldn’t have made it this far without those contributions. The big 3 will be the big 3 even when they’ve shuttered their doors and sent everyone packing. But I stand by what I’ve said. They’ve weathered all storms and grown back from it. I wouldn’t ever consider it a failing company. And despite all these artists leaving, most of them still remain under the company for group activities. So it’s not a complete lost cause. But I’d say give them 2 years and you’ll see the stirrings of some new era for them. Hopefully Kakao can kick the current people in charge and put people in that don’t suck. Like the changes SM would have to make are so basic…
@@jessi5288 impact wise, they will stay for sure. In real world though, money talks. I think the only saving for sm is kakao cause if the members hate the company , they won't even be excited for a cb. They just love their fans enough not to disband and I'd hate for them to be forced like that. Also, not only artists are leaving but employees as well so that could make the quality decline which is the worst thing after losing your artists.
Omg this hurts but u understand because sm introduced me to kpop with gee. Ever since then I was hooked but now it's not the same and I'm glad those artists are realizing their self worth.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Wendy & Winter would be the next ones to leave SM. Wendy expressed how unhappy she was with the company last year & this year as well, especially after the company barely promoted her 2nd solo album. As for Winter a few months ago she needed surgery & SM barely let her recover, rushing her back to live stages. She was also being stocked during a live stream when a ‘fan’ kept calling her home phone number, she had to change her number a handful of times. SM didn’t do thing about this.
still can’t get over the fact that chill kill was Red Velvet’s 3rd full album and there was no prerelease, no bside promotion, no stage video/performace, no dance practice, no mv reaction like simply just nothing. They don’t care anything about their groups besides the ones they want to. If I was an idol in that company I’d leave as well.
EXO had so much potential to overtake the world. But, SM didn't make it happen. Among the members, I only see Kai as active and winning as a solo performer. Love shot really brought global attention. But, SM kept them in the shadows after that which made them forgotten.
That’s a bolt statement. Are you really saying all the of companies don’t pay their employees right? Don’t care about the idol’s mental health? Just let crazy stalker fans (Stan’s) do what they want? The companies often face the same challenges, but they definitely don’t have all the same problems.
SM has never protected their artists from sasaeng. If you were Cassiopeia, you would know that the Jaehyun case is not the first time sasaengs have done something like this to SM artists. I remember hearing the news about Jaejung. Almost 15 years have passed, i can’t believe that they still ignore such a problem. I would say their karma got them.
It’s so simple to be a decent human being who treat people with respect and human decency but greed doesn’t allow that with lots of people and it’s sad, what is sm without its staff/artist, they are the ones really operating these companies making them all this money, all ceos and such do is bark orders and act like their running things yet get paid the most but without their staff and artist, they wouldn’t be rich or getting paid nothing so they definitely need to show more respect care and humanity to their artist and staff, sm needs to do better especially when it comes to artist and staff well being otherwise they deserve to lose artist as they need to do what’s best for them
Love sm and their music. They give their artists good music throughout the years but I wont be surprised that one day we'll all wake up to the news that all sm artists left to have other companies manage their solo careers but all stay in the group collectively.
yeah, the protection on the artist needs to improve better by sm apart from the fact of sm employees leaving & the management mechanism at least sm ent. (poc producers) make & produce good af music for any sment. group & soloist they artists are vocally legends
It's funny that this video is coming up when we're learning by mhj. Just how much CEO bang set his sights on acquiring this company and trying to destroy their groups. People have been out for this company and it's not like I am a fan of this company. I'm a fan of their groups but not this company. But this particular person has been out to get his hands on this company through various ways and has lost an and or been screwed over each time. This title is very clickbaity because it's all older groups that have been there past 15 years. A lot of groups leave their company after that time. It's rare for some groups to stay past even 7:00. The sheer fact that this company's had artists that have stayed with them for 20 years. Kind of crazy.
I already saw this miles away since the time JYJ filed lawsuit against them. That was the start of the destruction which slowly sparked the whole mess throughout the years with each group until it finally reached to CBX lawsuit, which made the company to bend on its knees. Lets face it, SM has outdated management system. They've lost their sense of promotion and tactics not only in foreign market but even in Korea. The way they try so hard to make their newbie groups stand out, only to hold them back when they have finally reach a certain stage of success because the company is more than enough to just receive daily dosage of money. They don't have any ambition to push their groups beyond the horizon because they are afraid of their groups surpassing their own company. Its good for the company as long as company is the one in control, not the other way around. Every group that gets popular in SM needs to go down in basement afraid after the comeback, never to be seen again and also to ve replaced with their junior. Their inability to keep balance in groups and to the members only adds up to the mess by not providing each member with equal exposure. Let's not forget their behavior to foreign artists despite needing foreign market to their favors. It always took them several lawsuits to minimize their obvious bigotry and unfair contracts. SM regardless is still good at vocal teachings and training system so they still has the chance to update their system and ideologies to make things work with their artists but I bet it's gonna happen anytime soon especially with most thir old artists being tired already.
As much as i want to hate train on lsm, that guy literally is the reason why many idols are still in the sm, heechul even said the only reason he renewed his contract is because Lsm. So when suddenly lsm just left sm, he literally don't know what to do. Many of the staff in sm even say it's feel so different now since lsm left. And after all that shit that happened, lsm vs his nephew, many of the idols, of course, don't want to stay there. Lsm literally made shinee stay for more than 15years, after he out both taemin and onew suddenly did not renew their contract, the producer started to leave the company left and right, the idol start to not want to renew contract, and suddenly all the drama between sm and idol.
Actually other Sub members of Super Junior should consider if they should renew their contact with SM or to plan a New path of their career. Like Han Geng ，he terminate his contract with SM is a right decision ever. He is now an actor in China. And is one of the most successful member who transform from idol model to artist. Although nowadays, there may be exit restrictions he cannot perform aboard. He concentrate working in CN for drama ,movie shooting. he earns fame and money. Recently he focus on his family 🙏 I'm blessed that he's blissful and I feel happy for him.
I also noticed this for the past years of supporting SM Entertainment. SM tend to not give much attention to their senior idols, they focuses more on promoting the new idols because they really believe that senior idols already established their career and don't need much promotion which is wrong. So no wonder a lot of senior idols left.
Please don’t get me wrong, i love ur videos but The timing of u posting this video is very sus, did hybe paid u to publish this video for the damage control. I mean please don’t get me wrong but the timing is weird. Here hybe getting exposed for stepping on aespa n here u making this video, its just the timing for me…..
Lets be honest here they aren't giving care to there idols,not protecting them from fans,management arent really manage correctly etc etc. Not only that beside of the older artists leaving we should be concern about the new generation of the kpop like New jeans and Ive etc. Cause if the company is losing older artists then the newer generation kpop groups could be next dowfall if the condition contiune to get worse
Well, I just hope SM will have a solution for this. It is not too late.... cuz SM's downside is only how they manage their stists, aside from that they have the best quality idold and banger songs. If SM fixes that problem, then it will be all good.
Ms.Boa is one of the greatest artists and admired global. In "Merry my Husband" Ms.Boa gives a fascinating main character of the story an impressive presentation with her exquisite appearance.♥️💐👑✨
I think SM started failing when Lee Sooman left. Also, BoA was amazing in "Marry My Husband". People have said she was too stiff as an actress, but she played that character so well. You weren't supposed to like her character. And from what I hear, she's one of the sweetest people out there. So to play a character completely opposite to who she is, then that means she's a good actress.
I've worked in the Music Industry - writing and producing music for a lot of very successful artists and groups here in London and the States since the mid 1980s. Most recently, I've been writing and producing for a lot of successful kpop and jpop groups. SM Entertainment (just one example) took their eye off the ball years ago. I keep my dealings with them directly - to a minimum. I don't like the way they treat their artists or backroom staff and this has been my experience since TVXQ. They don't protect or defend them either. We don't really have fans acting so brutally towards idols outside of Korea Instead of expanding, they need to work on what they have and encourage and support their current artists. That shouldn't be for me and my team to do. It's very upsetting to watch and to work with artists being mistreated. I will always encourage and support artists and groups that I work with. I very much encourage a feeling of extended family with everyone, to make working together fun, so we get the best performance. But artists shouldn't be arriving stressed out and defeated in the first place. 😔🇬🇧
Wow I remember when SM was the absolute biggest and most powerful company. Any idol would want to be in SM. Both SM and YG topped everything. This is crazy but probably a good thing as both these companies had alot of problems with treatment of idols(look how many time SM has been sued and I don’t need to explain YG) also payment issues
SM have always been terrible in managing their artists and staffs, but I really believe the BIGGEST REASON they're finally leaving is because Lee Soo Man is gone. They will no longer be banned for their solo activities as musician
@@Hahahaha10188 if you're new to Kpop, let me tell you how LSM literally banned former artists to appear on TV to promote their music. JYJ and Jessica are the living proof, and foreigner artists can promote only outside of South Korea.
@@yoon9521I am definitely not new to K-pop and I know somethings he did wasn’t very nice but he did what he needs to do I am from the first and second generation K-pop Stan. Lsm did things is for the greater good for him and the rest of K-pop industry without him K-pop wouldn’t even exist. And he also discovered BoA and realized she has the potential to leave SM and the Korean economy up. I can’t say about jyj but Jessica is that actually bring down the entire K-pop culture to its knees because of her romance relationship who is a scammer and is wanted by many people that why Lsm do what he got to do
@@Hahahaha10188 LSM didn't hold them together, LSM is a slaver, he would use underhanded and unjust means to get what he wants. Many people are leaving because they can finally do so, without LSM treats of getting black listed, because the payment distribution ain't fair and since many of them are figuring things out and have the courage to do so, they could. They are leaving because if they face unjust treatment from SM, they can stand up for themselves without LSM giving them the consequences in defiling his wishes. He built an empire unworthy of praises
I think it was the new directors though?? LSM doesnt have any power he only have powers for international promotions. He was just there by name. All of the ‘blunders’ happened after he was no longer the director of SM
people acting like the artists who leave mean nothing because they're 'old' and company doesn't need them when these are some of their most successful and best selling artists lol. and i also love 'they just wanna live as normal humans and leave the industry' when none of the people who left stopped being an active artist. excuses, excuses
Could you consider making a video discussing the recent news about Hybe's alleged payola scandal? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the matter.
Boa is the reason why i got in to kpop 17 years ago. Because of her jopop songs. Cross over toger kpop She should promote back in japan. That's where she got popular anyway. Love boa.
The big three will fall down at some point. With many artists starting their own companies, artists and groups will have a better deal with someone they’re friends with and feel more trusted. Also many American labels are most likely offering deals to them like we are seeing with Lisa of BP for example. It’s sad to see but if they don’t change their ways of treating artists, they won’t last long
Cube entertainment wouldn't even exist right now without (G)I-DLE but they still overwork them to the bone and do not provide any meaningful support for them.
HOW DRAMATIC WELL THE GROUPS STILL ACTIVE IM HAPPY FOR ONTAES OWN SOLO ACTIVITIES AND MINKEY BEING STILL UNDER SM ENT. SO FAR IM FINE WITH SHINee BUT SERIOUSLY HYPE LABELS SHOULD STFU AND STAY AWAY FROM SMENT. I DONT WANT A ZIONIST LABEL WITH FLOP AESS VOCALISTS & THEY SONGS ASSOCIATED WITH MY FAVS!
I'm just ready for better companies to take over. SM, HYBE, YG AND JYP don't deserve any of the credit they get - it's all on their artists (including producers, choreographers etc) Yall can downplay it all you want to not make your faves look bad, but all these companies are equally shady.
Donghae Eunhyuk and Kyuhyun were all has clear reason why. For the D&E, they want to do more unit activities but they knew the opportunity will be hard to give to them since there are too many artists in SM especially the younger ones. It will be easier for them to manage 100% on their own since they already on 18th year in industry. Same as Kyuhyun. He wanted to be more active doing Solo like before and at the same time wants to keep being active in variety shows. Anthena is perfect place that could offer that to him.
@@Wishouse Agree. But it's obvious that the artists are leaving because their company didn't treat them well or value them. It's clear the all might dollar was more important to them. I just hope the artists are appreciated for their hard work and talent wherever they land.
@@angelacurtis4456 you see, all company want money.. It’s not a bad thing to want. In a business mind of course you want to have profit. But as a human..you have to treat artists as human assets. SM produces many legendary groups and Artists. At least SM knows how to make a person sing.. And I don't want a company who is actually producing idols get shut down . Already kpop now has a low standard for vocal
@@Wishouse agreed. It would be nice for these companies to find and produce talented people for just that. For their talent and not because of their visuals. Many of the idols coming out are more visual than talent.
Yo SM, I don't care what you do, but you better take good care of your staff and artistes, especially Taeyeon. She's one of your brightest stars and her career can still go even higher so you better don't ruin her career. If you can't do it properly, you better hand her over to a better agency. She has the potential to be a world star beyond K-pop.
Whatever happens to sm entertainment it could be negative or positive ,RED VELVET should have a world concert tour as 5 starting this year, reveluv forever ❤❤❤
@@Rbosikwig that's too bad they'd been in the industry for long time but SM still didn't trust them enough. Since, Irene signed her renewal i think they deserve a better treatment this time around.
I find it funny this is coming out now that Bang/Hybe is in the news, so what else lets shit on SM. I will say a company can do right and people will still find something to complain about.
reading news of idols renewing their contracts with SM is bittersweet now because you know the company's influence in the industry at the expense of their well-being... it's scary how "normal" it is that SM takes minimal action for their artists' safety. wendy was so right that SM is not the place to work in no matter how much you love the idols.
I got into KPOP in 2012, with SHINee and f(x). It's 2024 and SM is still the same crap it was in 2012. It's not shocking these idols are leaving, idols are simply becoming aware they should have other options and are doing what they can to pursue them. SM treats its idols like absolute shit and literally the only reason they still get my money is because SHINee is still with them (well, and Minho and Key). To say I was sad not all SHINee members left is an understatement.
I feel like the reason they're not improving anything is because of the reputation they built throughout the years. Sure, they know big artists are leaving due to mismanagement but that doesn't stop more people from auditioning and becoming trainees and then somehow SM still manages to make their groups popular. So in the end those artists become big as well. They don't care to make artists stay because the groups they make carry a legacy and even if the artist leaves for a solo career elsewhere they remain with SM for group activities.
Honestly, at this point they’ve been with the company for years and accomplished a lot so I don’t find it surprising for them to leave and explore for a new opportunity
no bcs this is actually true! anyone that followed how sm been growing and managing nct, could tell you when exactly the company clearly decided to not care for the nct brand anymore.. like the way they easily took on the road to damage everything the boys & their team worked for +leesooman planed is absolutely shameful 💔
I’m still mad at how they treated F(x), no fan name, no light stick, nothing and left them to rot.
Same, it breaks my heart and makes my blood boil.
For real, F(x) literally can Rival 2.5 gen girl groups. The fact that they had two IT girls in one group, Top tier Vocal member, and revolutionary member Amber, but SM treated them poorly. If they just did them better, we would have F(x) until now. I remember how many times I played Red Light when it was first released. F(x) was way too ahead of their time. 🥺
So true, they deserved better.
@@stevennicolebernal379Krystal planned to stop being an idol at 25
Sulli 😢 💔
You can't just lose someone like BoA .. somebody who is the Queen of k-pop.. and think your standing as the major kpop company with a good reputation can continue. Losing someone who has spent 26 years with the company and saved the company from bankruptcy is really crazy to me.
Idols are leaving because they know they have no future with that company, SM is a sinking ship
Thats a bit harsh😢
They're leaving albecause the industry makes idols over 28 feel like fossils.
HYBE Stans on the hate train for SM since HYBE is all caught up in their mess.
Old idols are as important as young idols and young idols are there by contract. If the best trainees weren't going to SM that would be a mortal issue.
@@TT-ti4xudont act like SM is any better, that company is shit and is known for treating idols like shit
Minors debut: netizens complain
Adults debut: netizens complain
There is never a win in these situations 🙄
Yep, it's a lose-lose anyway. However if either will get complaints, I'd rather see adults debut.
It’s more about how the artists are treated.
YG 🤝 SM both labels are losing their most valuable artists.
Exactly that's what I said some pple in chat started to attack me for comparing both companies. They sure don't follow news very well.
That could happen to any company one day. One day HYBE surely loose some for now it’s HYBE’s year.
@@MrNarakhybe is already losing new jeans, the drame is going on in kpop companies and isols is crazy
@@MrNarak true its not only sm and yg, it's every companies in kpop.
@@l3gartha987expect jype, no drama, or idols leaving that group as for now
SM's downfall started with Jessica Jung being removed from SNSD at the height of their career.
Followed by F(X) just quietly going on hiatus / disbandment and Super Junior members being removed or leaving one by one and the boys of EXO filing a lawsuit similar to what happened in DBSK and Super Junior.
And then both Jonghyun and Sulli's tragic fates.
SM's strength and popularity came from their 2nd Gen groups. The way they *completely* failed to take care of these people was a telltale sign and the undeniable beginning of the end of SM ENT.
With due respect while correct it really stated with Boa here. I get while some people see her as an old lady. Yet this old lady is the foundation which the K-Pop industry grew on point blank!!
There would be no SM Entertainment without Boa and SM knows it. Her situation reminds me a bit of Namie Amuro's. That girl was flat out erased from existence!!
All because she retired on her terms. Nice to know your legecy means jack s*** to this corporate parasites. They see you as just a product to be exploited. :(
Jonghyun had a depression since very young age and visited a doctor, company has nothing to do with it. stop using his and Sulli's names in the company discussions
😂😂😂😂 SuperJunior sigue Activo y con 10 Integrantes 🤣🤗
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@@dear7003 company's mistreatment surely aggravated his situation tho
Noooo, there are so many legendary artists from SM! But the mismanagement is really bad, hope they change it… for the better…😢
Yeah I don’t blame them for leaving honestly. I mean EXO-CBX, Taemin of Shinee, Sunny of Girls’ Generation, Donghae, Eunhyuk, and Kyuhyun from Super Junior, I mean they left for a reason. SM is just a hell hole. The artists were so close with Lee Soo-man and now that he’s been kicked, the artists just feel like it’s better to leave it seems, and I don’t blame them.
@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfantbf they still have group contracts with SM. Taemin and Onew renewed their in 2023. also Onew left as a soloist too
@@dear7003 That’s technically not true because SHINee is going to have concert next month (may) where Onew is going to return to the group after a hiatus.
They're not leaving because they're mistreated ... they're leaving because they're getting older ... like Heechul said that he no longer cares about being an idol anymore , and that he'll finally live his life the way he wants to after 19 years in the Kpop entertainment .
@@KAISOO680 that's not what I meant. I know that Onew is still in the group, I said he renewed his group contract in 2023. I meant his solo contract is under different agency now
whoever is hating on BoA deserves to lose happiness in their lives.
Absolutely. She's getting more hate than those people with bullying or any other cases. She didn't do anything wrong at all. I feel so bad for her.
truly!!
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And the fact that she's not even that old too..
Agree.
The most shocking one was CBX’s lawsuit against SM. Atleast the others didn’t sue their company. But no EXO especially Baekhyun doesn’t take bullshit.. he will sue anyone who discriminates,talk unfounded nonsense and harass him. The only reason CBX went back was for EXO. It was for the EXO’s legendary We are One and the promise they made to EXO-Ls.
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37 isn’t even OLD??? HELLO??? ARE WE FORGETTING THE TRUE DEFINITION OF OLD??? UR AVERAGE CELEBRITY IS AT LEAST IN THEIR 30’s?
It's an industry which minor debut are normal so things can get twisted. Still have they seen our queen performance? She ate all of them 🤘🤘🤘🤘
In an industry that debuted teens, tweens.. 37 is old.
It's in a context of Kpop industry. Idols. Even then, 'Old' is not a bad term.
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Super Junior often jokes about themselves being on their 30s and called Super 'Junior'.
for Korea is old wen i pass 30s
@@martinramirez4433but in movies almost all the actress who portray a single working women are aged between 32-40 in the movies.
I am inclined to believe 40 is like the limit of females looking for husbands who have good work.
For South Korea, wowan in 37 is OLD. No one like Madonna, even in western.
Big 3 company having issues with their idols and staffs. (YG and SM losing their biggest artists, JYP not promoting their idol groups properly)
Hybe having a civil war moment.
Dang, idk what's happening to kpop anymore.
cuz they are not passionate about making (good quality) music anymore all they care about is fame and money
Exactlyyyy@@Yes_1998
@@Yes_1998 I kinda agree with you. I started stuning kpop way back 2nd gen where they prioritize more in making high quality music. It's so sad this is dying in the new generation. 😢
@@wymbumbum8110 omgg same i started kpop in 2012 and it was sm groups i kinda stopped in 2017 i lost intrest now that i'm watching this it's sad
@@Yes_1998same txt are the last active group i am invested in 😬
As an SM stan, it's honestly saddening to see. But I'm also kind of glad, since they all are literal gems in this industry and no company would hesitate to take them in and treat them a 100x better. I just hope this doesn't affect groups like Aespa, NCT or Riize in a negative way, since these groups still have time for their contract ends. Regardless of company, let's continue supporting the artists!
lol sm idols will continue to fail 😂 just look at nct…almost a decade and still haven’t made an impact outside of Asia. This is what happens when you have sm lip sync 24:7
you're delusional and sound like a 5 year old. just embarrassing @@TheShadowsFearX
@@TheShadowsFearXyour faves look up to SM senior artists and call them their idols. even their senior artists just become more and more successful and popular with each comeback. your comments are just embarrassing and very childish. your little mind is full of kpop stans stereotypes and you don't know a thing about SM idols
It's never a good idea to stan a company
@@celestialdusk they're obviously stanning artists, not executives
Are we not aware of this since the DBSK debacle???… sheesh now everything is coming to light.
Sooman held the strings together, I hoped it would work out, but that's wishful thinking.
Let's hope Baekhyun becomes the next CEO that values vocals
He really did.
He held it by keeping hidden in banks already signed contracts...
@@meanwhale4017 Yeah...there's a weird revisionism going on with LSM when the man's illegal deeds are just having their consequences now
lol bacon and eggso all flopped cos of lip sync 🤡🤣 they’re already finished lol
@@TheShadowsFearX salty us ever.u every were in all the comments section.
Add to the list SNSD's Taeyeon. She made puns about SM and flirted with the idea of leaving.
I'm sure if she finds a better company, she'll go away too.
Taeyeon has a comeback scheduled for July so she probably will stay for now. If any of the GG members still at SM leave, odds are it will be Yoona.
@@kristi4113 Agreed. I think Yoona will be next to leave
The industry needs SM vocals 😢
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you mean to tell me if exo was under another company they would not be as talented? SM did not produce those vocals, they just picked talented people and mistreated those people... some companies focus on visuals, others vocals, others concepts... SM just happened to focus on vocals
There is no denying that idols from sm CAN sing well. But kpop fans also need to realize that groups who are not under big companies exist some can sing, rap even better than famous idols and have even better discography than famous groups.
SM also have weak singers - Irene, Yeri for example (I don't follow boy groups so I can't comment on them) yet they will always be more praised than idols who are not very known but are 10000000 times more talented than them. So kpop stans should wake up actually and look around you'll see and hear much more idols who cam actually sing.
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@@maydey6703i agree. kai even said it best. they used their dream to abuse them
BoA is mother to SM. i feel bad for her. She didn't deserve that and not any other idol.
Also Boa being called greedy for being in the group and how ageist people are nowadays says alot about both kpop and society. People bullied her into retirement because of her age… jesus christ. Kpop will never change. And now they debut 12 year olds.
I know western fans say they don’t want kids in kpop and that they want older and adult idols but then have turned around and say the most horrid weird age sh*t to female idols. Annoying hypocrites
Look in the mirror. It's fans everywhere. SM has filed lawsuits both IN Korea and internationally. Location has nothing to do with it. I do totally agree with you, though, on debuting children. They should be allowed to live a somewhat normal life and allow their bodies to grow more before all the wear-and-tear. You look at elite-level gymnasts who are older now and their bodies have all kinds of issues. Plus throwing kids into any sexualized industry is just disgusting and wrong.
@@mbrow i never said other countries and people don’t do it but as a westerner I mainly read and see western fan’s opinions and hypocrisy on aging and idols.
But yes the debuting children thing is weird and it is getting more and more common to debut them younger and younger and entire groups being young minors.
The average debut age should be at least 16 and mainly people in their early 20s. Also just imagining the unhealthy diets and intense physical exertion along with image expectations I cant imagine the difficulty these kids will have when they get older. Honestly makes me angry and how easily some fans accept it.
@@Riu-bw4bl Thanks for the clarification. I'm from the USA. Taemin is my ult and he debuted at age 14...but it's strange to think that he signed with SM when he was 11/12. I was a stupid idiot when I was that age, so imagine the weight on his shoulders (and all of them). I guess it's similar to kids in the tv and film industry. SLIGHT improvements have been made there, but I really think that a separate 3rd party, paid by the studios and with no financial gain, should be assigned to manage at least some of the money these kids make. Anyway, that's another tangent, lol.
we've seen this coming from a mile away ever since the LSM-HYBE issue. the top management keeping all their secrets have been exposed leaving their employees including their artists in the dark of what's happening in the company. i think that's what made a lot of our beloved artists think about their future. & i so agree about their so-called helpline never worked! i don't see anyone getting in trouble ever. they should've been the ones vigilant about this since they have been experiencing this over the years! they have never even once lifted a finger over protecting the ones that literally makes them money. & i don't think they can get out of their messes since they never even tried to clean it up anyways.
I think to with the global raise of Kpop, artists have so many options in regards to companies they can move to when their contracts are up. Its about time companies were held accountable and start paying artist and workers decently.
Honestly all the big 3/4 companies are doing pretty badly rn.
Agree in era 4th gen and 5th gen big company is getting worst right now!
SM, YG, HYBE.... at least JYP is doing a bit better, and at least YG now has BAEMON.
@@Anyaaaah baby monster is not doing as well as I think they were expected to, artists left yg including blackpink kinda. Same with jyp groups like nmixx. They are doing ok but I don’t think near the standard/quality of some other groups from other companies. The standards used to be high for the big 3/4 but some of them just keep missing.
hybe will be good with bts comeback and seventeen also txt and enhypen are doing ok(I assumed all GGs got affected by the current drama which is not my opinion tbh). JYP will be ok with straykids and maybe nmixx. the girls aren't as big but they are doing better. YG is in between cause BP is up in the air and might release an album really late. Baemon are promising but still young. The rest aren't going anywhere so it depends on the 2 ggs for now. SM needs help from Kakoa or they'll be gone in my opinion nct alone won't be enough esp with the military starting for them
@@shorouk1172HYBE always been kinda cursed with GGs lol
Sm is really poor in managing artist and treating them well so their is no doubt why everyone is leaving sm and it's better decision who going to stay in such nasty company sm is really going downfall bcz all the money maker in sm leaving so it's really bad for company
I didn’t realize that so many idols were leaving SM
And now Taemin has his own solo official fanclub, his own solo official lighstick, a World Tour... I´m so glad he left that company that was mistreating him so badly!
Now if only his music was as good now as with SM. And I haven't heard about any mistreatment. Isn't he still signed with Shinee?
@@Hgoenge81 his music is as good because he's working with the same team lmao. You haven't heard about mistreatment because you're not even his fan nor care about him, so I'm not even going to list you every time they mistreated him. And no, he's not signed with SHINee. He doesn't have a group contract. He will need to sign a temporary contract with SM for every SHINee activity, same as Onew. That's why they're not participating in recent SHINee activities.
The fact that Boa gets any hate is wild. She's an ICON and these netizens should learn to appreciate how kpop got big as it did. Netizens are so toxic it's crazy.
btw, sunny is lee soo man's niece...how bad things have to be for her to leave?
also!!!! boa literally saved sm from ruins!!! the way they treat her now is unbelievable
Exactly!
SM enteraiment
There one of the giant company in kpop industry so sad to hear this
The new directors DESTROYS SMent. Even Yoo Youngjin, the producer that creates and trains a lot of SM’s great singers calls it quit!
Dang he left?! When? He was their magic hitmaker
We didn't deserved boa netizen are just a bunch of mean people
I m a sj and snsd fan its tough for me to hear there members left and treatments of employees are not good
Do you support Siwon the Zionist?
Although it was shocking that Taemina & Onew left the company, but I really wish they will have better conditions in the new companies.
I really wish Lee SoMan start a new company & ask SHINee to join & live the comfort of the past years..
i think we need to talk about hybe more cuz min hee jin just exposed them for buying awards ...
Rlly
Can i have link to tht info
Really? Link plzz
yesss that is one corrupted corporation who is using bts fame and name to promote their groups
Well tbh I wouldn't believe anything Min Heejin has been saying, she's just desperately trying to save her own ass atp
Pffh.... yeah right *rolls eyes*
“Tragic downfall” is kind of sensationalist. SM goes through a “tragic downfall” every few years, with scandals or people leaving and then it sort of pops back up like an annoying weed. In reality, all it would take is Kakao kicking current management and putting someone better in and they’d be on their way back up. That said, they have the capability to build themselves back up, whether it be from the ruins of a former company or from the foundation.
The issue is that the company is now mid-size company (from financial point of view) and the big artists that can rescue them quickly are leaving one by one so if they don't move quickly, I think it will be big 2 instead of 3
@@shorouk1172 the concept of big 3 at this point has more to do with impact than financial status. YG, JYP, and SM set the standard on what kpop could be and every single group in those companies and out of them have built on top of that. Like, you can’t erase that contributions they made and kpop wouldn’t have made it this far without those contributions. The big 3 will be the big 3 even when they’ve shuttered their doors and sent everyone packing.
But I stand by what I’ve said. They’ve weathered all storms and grown back from it. I wouldn’t ever consider it a failing company. And despite all these artists leaving, most of them still remain under the company for group activities. So it’s not a complete lost cause. But I’d say give them 2 years and you’ll see the stirrings of some new era for them. Hopefully Kakao can kick the current people in charge and put people in that don’t suck. Like the changes SM would have to make are so basic…
@@jessi5288 impact wise, they will stay for sure. In real world though, money talks. I think the only saving for sm is kakao cause if the members hate the company , they won't even be excited for a cb. They just love their fans enough not to disband and I'd hate for them to be forced like that. Also, not only artists are leaving but employees as well so that could make the quality decline which is the worst thing after losing your artists.
Omg this hurts but u understand because sm introduced me to kpop with gee. Ever since then I was hooked but now it's not the same and I'm glad those artists are realizing their self worth.
When members of SHINee are leaving thats when you know
BoA saved kpop in the 2000s… let’s be real, any new Kpop fan hating on her is absolutely dumb..
Exactly. Super dumb and disrespectful.
I can't forgive them f(x). It's too big a loss.THE WORST AGENCY
Aespa carrying the company ❤
And NCT (No hate AESPA are my fave 4th gen girlgroup with ITZY).
Nahh, Exo did they have been with them for 11+ years and they are the most popular and successful group under SM
@@Gowon-0 they still are literally look at sm most viewed videos 💀💀 bitch blocked
Aespa ,red velvet and nct
@@tiktokweirdo5918 not exo?? 💀💀
Wouldn’t be surprised if Wendy & Winter would be the next ones to leave SM.
Wendy expressed how unhappy she was with the company last year & this year as well, especially after the company barely promoted her 2nd solo album.
As for Winter a few months ago she needed surgery & SM barely let her recover, rushing her back to live stages. She was also being stocked during a live stream when a ‘fan’ kept calling her home phone number, she had to change her number a handful of times. SM didn’t do thing about this.
still can’t get over the fact that chill kill was Red Velvet’s 3rd full album and there was no prerelease, no bside promotion, no stage video/performace, no dance practice, no mv reaction like simply just nothing. They don’t care anything about their groups besides the ones they want to. If I was an idol in that company I’d leave as well.
Nothing at all besides arguably their very best release to date.
EXO had so much potential to overtake the world. But, SM didn't make it happen. Among the members, I only see Kai as active and winning as a solo performer. Love shot really brought global attention. But, SM kept them in the shadows after that which made them forgotten.
All compay have the some problems
That’s a bolt statement. Are you really saying all the of companies don’t pay their employees right? Don’t care about the idol’s mental health? Just let crazy stalker fans (Stan’s) do what they want? The companies often face the same challenges, but they definitely don’t have all the same problems.
Not true. Company policies are different depending on which one you go to
SM has never protected their artists from sasaeng. If you were Cassiopeia, you would know that the Jaehyun case is not the first time sasaengs have done something like this to SM artists. I remember hearing the news about Jaejung. Almost 15 years have passed, i can’t believe that they still ignore such a problem. I would say their karma got them.
It’s so simple to be a decent human being who treat people with respect and human decency but greed doesn’t allow that with lots of people and it’s sad, what is sm without its staff/artist, they are the ones really operating these companies making them all this money, all ceos and such do is bark orders and act like their running things yet get paid the most but without their staff and artist, they wouldn’t be rich or getting paid nothing so they definitely need to show more respect care and humanity to their artist and staff, sm needs to do better especially when it comes to artist and staff well being otherwise they deserve to lose artist as they need to do what’s best for them
Love sm and their music. They give their artists good music throughout the years but I wont be surprised that one day we'll all wake up to the news that all sm artists left to have other companies manage their solo careers but all stay in the group collectively.
yeah, the protection on the artist needs to improve better by sm apart from the fact of sm employees leaving & the management mechanism at least sm ent. (poc producers) make & produce good af music for any sment. group & soloist they artists are vocally legends
It's funny that this video is coming up when we're learning by mhj. Just how much CEO bang set his sights on acquiring this company and trying to destroy their groups. People have been out for this company and it's not like I am a fan of this company. I'm a fan of their groups but not this company. But this particular person has been out to get his hands on this company through various ways and has lost an and or been screwed over each time. This title is very clickbaity because it's all older groups that have been there past 15 years. A lot of groups leave their company after that time. It's rare for some groups to stay past even 7:00. The sheer fact that this company's had artists that have stayed with them for 20 years. Kind of crazy.
I already saw this miles away since the time JYJ filed lawsuit against them. That was the start of the destruction which slowly sparked the whole mess throughout the years with each group until it finally reached to CBX lawsuit, which made the company to bend on its knees. Lets face it, SM has outdated management system. They've lost their sense of promotion and tactics not only in foreign market but even in Korea. The way they try so hard to make their newbie groups stand out, only to hold them back when they have finally reach a certain stage of success because the company is more than enough to just receive daily dosage of money. They don't have any ambition to push their groups beyond the horizon because they are afraid of their groups surpassing their own company. Its good for the company as long as company is the one in control, not the other way around. Every group that gets popular in SM needs to go down in basement afraid after the comeback, never to be seen again and also to ve replaced with their junior. Their inability to keep balance in groups and to the members only adds up to the mess by not providing each member with equal exposure. Let's not forget their behavior to foreign artists despite needing foreign market to their favors. It always took them several lawsuits to minimize their obvious bigotry and unfair contracts.
SM regardless is still good at vocal teachings and training system so they still has the chance to update their system and ideologies to make things work with their artists but I bet it's gonna happen anytime soon especially with most thir old artists being tired already.
As much as i want to hate train on lsm, that guy literally is the reason why many idols are still in the sm, heechul even said the only reason he renewed his contract is because Lsm. So when suddenly lsm just left sm, he literally don't know what to do. Many of the staff in sm even say it's feel so different now since lsm left.
And after all that shit that happened, lsm vs his nephew, many of the idols, of course, don't want to stay there. Lsm literally made shinee stay for more than 15years, after he out both taemin and onew suddenly did not renew their contract, the producer started to leave the company left and right, the idol start to not want to renew contract, and suddenly all the drama between sm and idol.
Taemin and Onew both still have group contracts with SM and are still in the group
Actually other Sub members of Super Junior should consider if they should renew their contact with SM or to plan a New path of their career.
Like Han Geng ，he terminate his contract with SM is a right decision ever.
He is now an actor in China. And is one of the most successful member who transform from idol model to artist.
Although nowadays, there may be exit restrictions he cannot perform aboard.
He concentrate working in CN for drama ,movie shooting. he earns fame and money.
Recently he focus on his family 🙏
I'm blessed that he's blissful and I feel happy for him.
I also noticed this for the past years of supporting SM Entertainment. SM tend to not give much attention to their senior idols, they focuses more on promoting the new idols because they really believe that senior idols already established their career and don't need much promotion which is wrong. So no wonder a lot of senior idols left.
Please don’t get me wrong, i love ur videos but The timing of u posting this video is very sus, did hybe paid u to publish this video for the damage control. I mean please don’t get me wrong but the timing is weird. Here hybe getting exposed for stepping on aespa n here u making this video, its just the timing for me…..
Lets be honest here they aren't giving care to there idols,not protecting them from fans,management arent really manage correctly etc etc. Not only that beside of the older artists leaving we should be concern about the new generation of the kpop like New jeans and Ive etc. Cause if the company is losing older artists then the newer generation kpop groups could be next dowfall if the condition contiune to get worse
That's karma for JYJ. TVXQ and EXO really went through a lot as other SM artist.
Well, I just hope SM will have a solution for this. It is not too late.... cuz SM's downside is only how they manage their stists, aside from that they have the best quality idold and banger songs. If SM fixes that problem, then it will be all good.
I can't imagine the simmering anxiety the Neo's might be having, they're in an unfortunate spot if anyone of them is at their wits end.
Leave BoA alone!! She has done nothing but accomplished so much as the queen of Kpop.
Ms.Boa is one of the greatest artists and admired global.
In "Merry my Husband" Ms.Boa gives a fascinating main character of the story an impressive presentation with
her exquisite appearance.♥️💐👑✨
I need a video on why everyone is leaving AOMG..
I read somewhere that Jay Park isn’t as involved anymore and there’s been some management problems
I think SM started failing when Lee Sooman left. Also, BoA was amazing in "Marry My Husband". People have said she was too stiff as an actress, but she played that character so well. You weren't supposed to like her character. And from what I hear, she's one of the sweetest people out there. So to play a character completely opposite to who she is, then that means she's a good actress.
I've worked in the Music Industry - writing and producing music for a lot of very successful artists and groups here in London and the States since the mid 1980s.
Most recently, I've been writing and producing for a lot of successful kpop and jpop groups.
SM Entertainment (just one example) took their eye off the ball years ago. I keep my dealings with them directly - to a minimum. I don't like the way they treat their artists or backroom staff and this has been my experience since TVXQ. They don't protect or defend them either. We don't really have fans acting so brutally towards idols outside of Korea
Instead of expanding, they need to work on what they have and encourage and support their current artists. That shouldn't be for me and my team to do.
It's very upsetting to watch and to work with artists being mistreated. I will always encourage and support artists and groups that I work with. I very much encourage a feeling of extended family with everyone, to make working together fun, so we get the best performance.
But artists shouldn't be arriving stressed out and defeated in the first place. 😔🇬🇧
Wow I remember when SM was the absolute biggest and most powerful company. Any idol would want to be in SM. Both SM and YG topped everything.
This is crazy but probably a good thing as both these companies had alot of problems with treatment of idols(look how many time SM has been sued and I don’t need to explain YG) also payment issues
SM have always been terrible in managing their artists and staffs, but I really believe the BIGGEST REASON they're finally leaving is because Lee Soo Man is gone. They will no longer be banned for their solo activities as musician
Lsm is the one that hold all of them together
@@Hahahaha10188 if you're new to Kpop, let me tell you how LSM literally banned former artists to appear on TV to promote their music. JYJ and Jessica are the living proof, and foreigner artists can promote only outside of South Korea.
@@yoon9521I am definitely not new to K-pop and I know somethings he did wasn’t very nice but he did what he needs to do
I am from the first and second generation K-pop Stan. Lsm did things is for the greater good for him and the rest of K-pop industry without him K-pop wouldn’t even exist. And he also discovered BoA and realized she has the potential to leave SM and the Korean economy up.
I can’t say about jyj but Jessica is that actually bring down the entire K-pop culture to its knees because of her romance relationship who is a scammer and is wanted by many people that why Lsm do what he got to do
@@Hahahaha10188 LSM didn't hold them together, LSM is a slaver, he would use underhanded and unjust means to get what he wants.
Many people are leaving because they can finally do so, without LSM treats of getting black listed, because the payment distribution ain't fair and since many of them are figuring things out and have the courage to do so, they could. They are leaving because if they face unjust treatment from SM, they can stand up for themselves without LSM giving them the consequences in defiling his wishes. He built an empire unworthy of praises
I think it was the new directors though?? LSM doesnt have any power he only have powers for international promotions. He was just there by name. All of the ‘blunders’ happened after he was no longer the director of SM
So basically SM is behaving like a typical korean chaebols company. The entire Korean work culture needs a massive makeover, not just SM
people acting like the artists who leave mean nothing because they're 'old' and company doesn't need them when these are some of their most successful and best selling artists lol. and i also love 'they just wanna live as normal humans and leave the industry' when none of the people who left stopped being an active artist. excuses, excuses
Could you consider making a video discussing the recent news about Hybe's alleged payola scandal? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the matter.
The only reason I listen to Kpop is because of BoA. hope she keeps making good music
Boa is the reason why i got in to kpop 17 years ago. Because of her jopop songs. Cross over toger kpop She should promote back in japan. That's where she got popular anyway. Love boa.
The big three will fall down at some point. With many artists starting their own companies, artists and groups will have a better deal with someone they’re friends with and feel more trusted. Also many American labels are most likely offering deals to them like we are seeing with Lisa of BP for example. It’s sad to see but if they don’t change their ways of treating artists, they won’t last long
i think it will be the same. take jyp was an idol but he isn't promoting his groups properly. I believe this will be an end of an era
Cube entertainment wouldn't even exist right now without (G)I-DLE but they still overwork them to the bone and do not provide any meaningful support for them.
aespa is my most favorite kpop group/artist so I’m very worried all these issues keep affecting them
Kyungsoo / D.O. made a great decision not to renew the exclusive contract.
HOW DRAMATIC WELL THE GROUPS STILL ACTIVE IM HAPPY FOR ONTAES OWN SOLO ACTIVITIES AND MINKEY BEING STILL UNDER SM ENT. SO FAR IM FINE WITH SHINee BUT SERIOUSLY HYPE LABELS SHOULD STFU AND STAY AWAY FROM SMENT. I DONT WANT A ZIONIST LABEL WITH FLOP AESS VOCALISTS & THEY SONGS ASSOCIATED WITH MY FAVS!
ooh, love to see y'all cry~ lol
Conclusión: Goodbye SM FOREVER AND NEVER COMEBACK AGAIN
When long established artists are leaving, its time to wonder if the management wants to change, or they want the talent to leave for some reason.
I'm just ready for better companies to take over. SM, HYBE, YG AND JYP don't deserve any of the credit they get - it's all on their artists (including producers, choreographers etc) Yall can downplay it all you want to not make your faves look bad, but all these companies are equally shady.
The only solution now is make suho the ceo and bring back lee soo man . Honestly, yoo youngjin leaving was the biggest shock for me.
Donghae Eunhyuk and Kyuhyun were all has clear reason why. For the D&E, they want to do more unit activities but they knew the opportunity will be hard to give to them since there are too many artists in SM especially the younger ones. It will be easier for them to manage 100% on their own since they already on 18th year in industry. Same as Kyuhyun. He wanted to be more active doing Solo like before and at the same time wants to keep being active in variety shows. Anthena is perfect place that could offer that to him.
After the fiasco at the top management, it's unlikely that some older artists will stay with SM. Even Sunny left SM
SM will comeback soon.
Hope not. Would rather see these talented artists go on to other companies where they are appreciated.
@@angelacurtis4456 i want company comeback it means they will treat Artist better.. And will not ditch them.
@@Wishouse Agree. But it's obvious that the artists are leaving because their company didn't treat them well or value them. It's clear the all might dollar was more important to them. I just hope the artists are appreciated for their hard work and talent wherever they land.
@@angelacurtis4456 you see, all company want money.. It’s not a bad thing to want. In a business mind of course you want to have profit. But as a human..you have to treat artists as human assets. SM produces many legendary groups and Artists. At least SM knows how to make a person sing.. And I don't want a company who is actually producing idols get shut down . Already kpop now has a low standard for vocal
@@Wishouse agreed. It would be nice for these companies to find and produce talented people for just that. For their talent and not because of their visuals. Many of the idols coming out are more visual than talent.
Yo SM, I don't care what you do, but you better take good care of your staff and artistes, especially Taeyeon. She's one of your brightest stars and her career can still go even higher so you better don't ruin her career. If you can't do it properly, you better hand her over to a better agency. She has the potential to be a world star beyond K-pop.
I hope this doesn’t affect aespa💔
Whatever happens to sm entertainment it could be negative or positive ,RED VELVET should have a world concert tour as 5 starting this year, reveluv forever ❤❤❤
I'm sorry for asking this did RV had a world tour before?
@louren2974 a mini world tour as 4 only not all 5, in parts of Asia and the uk only I think,I might be wrong though
@@Rbosikwig that's too bad they'd been in the industry for long time but SM still didn't trust them enough. Since, Irene signed her renewal i think they deserve a better treatment this time around.
@@louren2974some SM popular groups who have been around longer and are still gaining new fans didn't have even European tours. SM doesn't care
I’m glad DO BAEK Xiumin and Chen left SM for their solo activities
BoA’s appearance and age don’t matter! Wtf she looks extremely amazing and is way more talented than most artists… Seriously Korea…
That new CEOs didn't knew what were they doing betraying Lee Sooman...
Woman should take over Leadership period
Go BoA 💪🏿💪🏾💪🏽💪🏼💪🏻
I find it funny this is coming out now that Bang/Hybe is in the news, so what else lets shit on SM. I will say a company can do right and people will still find something to complain about.
reading news of idols renewing their contracts with SM is bittersweet now because you know the company's influence in the industry at the expense of their well-being... it's scary how "normal" it is that SM takes minimal action for their artists' safety. wendy was so right that SM is not the place to work in no matter how much you love the idols.
I got into KPOP in 2012, with SHINee and f(x). It's 2024 and SM is still the same crap it was in 2012. It's not shocking these idols are leaving, idols are simply becoming aware they should have other options and are doing what they can to pursue them. SM treats its idols like absolute shit and literally the only reason they still get my money is because SHINee is still with them (well, and Minho and Key). To say I was sad not all SHINee members left is an understatement.
Its actually sensible cause if all of SHINee left, then they probably wouldn't get any comebacks at all.
19 sec ago is crazzzzzzzy😶🌫️
Lol... people have been predicting SM's downfall since I got into Kpop 15 years ago.
It still hasn't happened.
I don’t want BoA to retire please. 😟
I feel like the reason they're not improving anything is because of the reputation they built throughout the years. Sure, they know big artists are leaving due to mismanagement but that doesn't stop more people from auditioning and becoming trainees and then somehow SM still manages to make their groups popular. So in the end those artists become big as well. They don't care to make artists stay because the groups they make carry a legacy and even if the artist leaves for a solo career elsewhere they remain with SM for group activities.
How in early 2000s western pop was famous then after that kpop took the crown but now slowy they also losing the spark.
With the crap that is going on with YG and now SM, looks like the only one that is doing ok out of the top OG three is JYP.
If sunny snsd also left the company that means SM in trouble.
I’m actually agreeing with you video about situations of individuals of industries of course too
Honestly, at this point they’ve been with the company for years and accomplished a lot so I don’t find it surprising for them to leave and explore for a new opportunity
They are destroying NCT.
They could manage them better but they are not destroying them.
no bcs this is actually true! anyone that followed how sm been growing and managing nct, could tell you when exactly the company clearly decided to not care for the nct brand anymore.. like the way they easily took on the road to damage everything the boys & their team worked for +leesooman planed is absolutely shameful 💔