The Origin Of Hapkido
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2017
- In this episode, Gio and guest Steven Reich discuss the origin of the Korean Martial Art of Hapkido, beginning with its founder Choi Yong Sool, and later discussing some of Choi's disciples who helped pioneer the art here in the USA, and make it into what it is today.
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Hapkido was the first style I got formal training in in San Diego in the 80's . A school called Ho Shin Moo Do . Sadly it closed soon after but man a LOVED it It was so "classic" for lack of a better word . The instructor barely spoke english . We learned strikes, kicks, throws , grappling and breakfalls . Was the perfect start for me .
Bong Soo Han incorporated many Taekkyeon kicks in as well as Shotkan strikes, Kendo and some Judo.
It's nice to see the variety of Hapkido and how everyone adds their own touch to it. It can also be that due to it's Korean roots, there is more flexibility in the art and different styles.
May I add a great teacher who won the respect of many US servicemen, and was well recognized in Korea as well. Mr. Park Song Hon, AKA Mr. Pak. He was a student of both Mr. Ji Han Jae and Bong Soo Hon. Back in the 60s (perhaps early 70s), Mr. Pak, who was fluent in English, was tasked by the Korean Hapkido Federation to introduce the art to American servicemen. He first taught at Osan Air Base, at the same time Chuck Norris was studying Tang Soo Do. I studied with Mr. Pak in 1986 and 87 at Kunsan Air Base. Mr. Pak was a great example as a martial artist and warm human being. His techniques were spectacular. By spectacular I mean effective. His specialty was grappling, with incredible power which he attributed to the Danjonhohupbup exercise. In the 90s he retired to his home in Songtan (Osan Airbase). I was fortunate to have visited him and talked him to take me to a Korean only Dojo (He used the Japanese word, not Dojang). Wow. Upon entering the entire school came to attention and each Black Belt greeted him in line.I witnessed him give an impromptu seminar, in Korean. That was a long time ago. Mr. Pak was a wonderful man, a tribute to the art of Hapkido.
That's a great story. Thanks for sharing!
Mr Park was an excellent Hapkido instructor and a great personality . I I trained with Mr (GM) Park , GM Lee, GM Yu and GM Chang at Osan AFB in 1965- 1968 under GM Bong Soo Han. Later, in their careers they became Grandmasters. GM Chang is at Osan teaching now and they all were extraordinary Hapkido practitioners. I received my blackbelt in 1967.
Thank you for the wealth of knowledge and history in this video. My boys and I are Kuk Sool Won practitioners. I didn't know all this. Our grand master is Suh, In-Kyuk and we love Kuk Sool Won.
This was very informative regarding Aikido and hapkido thank you very much for this segment.
Choi called what he taught Yawara, which he learned from Sokaku Takeda while using a Japanese pseudonym living in Japan.
I studied under Master Chung Ke Te in Aurora Ontario Canada.He was sponsored by the United Church there and started teaching. He spoke no English which frustrated him. He was very tough with huge calloused knuckles . He later opened a Dojang in Toronto Ontario Canada [downtown basement under a store which became his storefront ] This was approx 1971
Wow! great story
This is where the fun begins
In 1989 I lived in Ursula Ave in LA CA. I practiced hapkido at the jim Gilliam rec center I'm trying to get connected to that lineage of hapkido
A few things...
Jang Im Mok was a public student of Takeda Sensei, and was Korean...
Choi Dojunim awarded 4 9ths dans
Number 1: Chang Chin Il Dojunim
Number 2: Lim Hyun Soo Chongsa Nim
Number 3: GM Kim Yun Sang
Number 4: GM Lee (Deceased)
No
10th dan certificate was ever awarded, however, Chang Chin Il Dojunim
was awarded a Doju certificate, done on live TV with Lim Hyun Soo as the
MC...
While Ji may have been a movie star, his actual rank from
Choi Dojunim is quite low...his "additions" to what he learned from Choi
Dojunim changed the art from its original concept, so he actually
teaches Sin Moo Do, not Hapkido.
Thanks for sharing this information. With regard to Chang Chin-Il, is there any way to see this live TV footage? When I trained under him, he insisted that he was the only student of Choi to ever be promoted to 10th Dan by Choi himself. He even printed this on his business card. He never mentioned that this happened on live TV. In fact, there is an article in the June 1999 issue of Black Belt magazine with GM Jong-Bae Rim who states that Choi came to NY in 1982 to endorse Chang, and made this announcement to a group of Hapkido practitioners at a Korean restaurant.
Like Water Productions Yes, he makes that assertion, but it's simply not true...Choi Dojunim was illiterate, and all his certificates were prepared by his son, or Lim Hyun Soo...and no 10th Dan was ever created...
Chang Dojunim showed me all the certificates, no 10th Dan was among them...
The video footage was from KNBC, and they have chosen until note not to release it...
Again, thanks for sharing. This is very interesting. How do you know Chang Dojunim?
Like Water Productions I met him through Mike Wollerhausers family after he died...he did his Larry seminar at my dojang about a week before his dearth and I met Chang Dojunim at his memorial...
Mike Wollmershauser was a really nice man. I enjoyed meeting him, and was very sad to learn of his passing...
This has been very enlightening. Once more, I thank you. If you are ever in Los Angeles, perhaps you would like to come on our show and share some more history. :-)
Thanks guys, its good idea to talk about Hapkido Original and founders trees... thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much
awesome Thank you
As a bit of a noob this is really great. It would be good to take a closer look at that founders tree to help get my head around it all.
Greetings and thank you for your post. I studied Hapkido from Master Tae Man Kwon in Torrance Ca. Master Kwon taught us every single technique himself. I received my first grade black belt from Master Kwon in 1986. Master Kwon told me he was trained by Ji Han Jae, who I met a couple of times myself. Master Kwon said one of his elder students also training with Master Jae was Bong Soo Han, who I also met. Master Kwon said what he taught came from Grandmaster Choi but was systematically changed by Ji Han Jae. During my training there were many different people teaching these principals using different names for their style. There was a lot of different federations and associations. Master Kwon never disparaged these people and did not want to be embroiled in the politics. He did seem sad that there was so much dissent in their original brotherhood with all the name changes and personal glorification. Master Tae Man Kwon is the epitome of a righteous master teacher of an inspired martial art. Peace to you all.
Very nice did you ever meet master sea oh choi
I trained with Grandmaster Chinil Chang, in his school in the Bronx(across the street from Van Cortlandt Park), for 1 year. He was definitely a masters master.
I went to the same school! I remember helping to build the big sign he put up on the side of the building. Sorry to find out GM Chang passed away earlier this year.
Yes, I heard that too. I wish that I could've spoken to him one more time...sad...and yes, I remember that sign, really nice, but, when I joined the sign was already there. How long did you train with him and do you still train in Hapkido.
I had a friend who was training with GM Chang, and he started showing me what he was learning about a year before I joined. In that time, he invited me to meet with Master Chang, which I did several times, but couldn't join yet since I was still enrolled in a Tae Kwon Do school and preparing for my BB test at the end of that year. 2 weeks after I received my belt, I quit TKD and joined Master Chang's Hapkido school. I was there most of that year, but then moved to CA and started training Hapkido under Master Ho Jin Song. I don't train as much as would like these days, but I'm still very friendly with with my MA community out here, and train when I can.
Awesome stories.
@@LikeWaterProductions Then how many branch (or style) of Hapkido?
Good history of the Harpkido Art of self-defense
Bong Soon Han said it based on the Water Principal in his book Harpkido , this brought back some pleasing and fun memories.
Glad you enjoyed the show! Thanks so much for watching!
Interesting video, thanks for sharing. I would really like to check out that lineage tree I saw on your video.
Glad you liked the show. There is a link to the Hapkido family tree in the description.
You can find it on line but it's not 100 percent complete
I studied under Sabanim Michael Wollmerhauser for 9 years received my 3rd Black Belt from him and Dr.Jung Hwan Park Michael was Far more advanced than even Korean instructors very Articulate Detailed even the finest vinese of nuances in detail a Wonderful friend who sadly Passed away from Cancer Sadly Missed RIP Sabanim
I was honored to have met him. He was so nice and generous with his time. Would have loved to have learned more from him. You have my condolences.
Thanks guys for this vídeo. I have a question: who created the circular moviments? Takeda, Ueshiba or Choi?
Where can that family tree be found?
Thank you
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Takeda had two students studying daito ryu that went on to create two styles. In those days, there were 4 licences in hand to hand combat and four spear licenses that he offered. One being Ryuho Okuyama and Morihei Oshiba. Okuyama obtained all four licences in both hand to hand and in spear. Oshiba obtained only two of the four. He went on to create Aikido a more spiritual system and Okuyama went on to create Hakko ryu Jujutsu. Choi may have studied Daito Ryu but I believe he studied under Okuyama before creating his own system. That is why there are no references to choi in the Daito Ryu lineage. He did study it, but not thru Takeda directly.
Like your vid guys thanks for sharing. Well here’s a challenge, during the ‘70s in Chile, a korean hapkido teacher Kwan Yoo Choi Kim spread this system here in southamerica. He leave Chile at some point in the ‘80s. I’ve learned from this school cause this choi create very good instructors. So, every video i look i can tell is the same system (strikes, kicks, falls, hosinsul, weapons, piochan, chipangui, etc.) wich lineage you guys think he was? There’s a Lot of versions of hapkido but the one i’ve learned is very holistic and agresive, it goes straigth to the pressure point or to breaking the joint (rist, elbow, shoulder, etc.)
Thanks for sharing, good Job!
Did you see him in the Linage Tree? Try to look for him on Google. Ji Han Jae was the one that spred teacher all over the world. That could be your linage. Just look for Ji han Jae and ask him. He will still answer his phone in his office. :)
Awesome
Hola Gio, ¿cómo estás? serías tan gentil de compartir el archivo HAPKIDO FAMILY TREE. La dirección que dejaste ya no funciona. Te agradecería enormemente. Un abrazo
Hola si parece que la persona que tomo el tiempo para hace el Arbol de Hapkido no esta disponible. Voy a buscar y espero encontrar uno similar. Si encuentras uno porfavor compartelo. Gracias
Grandmaster Kie-Duk Lee was there too. He also went by the name Grandmaster Duke Lee in the USA.
That's true Ji added lot''s of hand foot techiques .Choi"s stuff is called yong sool no kicks above the waist.
It is nice to kick above the waist.
Great video guys. It's cool to see a video that is trying to look at facts and not just claimed opinions. I've had the honor of training with the founder of Hanmudo, Grand Master Dr. He-Young Kimm. Has has written many books on various Korean martial arts, including Hapkido. He also is a direct descendant under Choi Young Sool. Check out his books, I think you would really appreciate them. He is currently working on a new book that I believe is scheduled to be out the end of this year, but not 100%. Also please check out our page on Facebook, American Hapkido Alliance. Thanks and keep going on the videos! Nicely done.
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Quang sik myung ...I was awarded a black belt back in the mid 70s from him in the Detroit area before he moved to California...three masters flew in for the testing which took 10 hrs ..He founded the American Hapkido Association did he not?
You should interview Grandmaster John Pellegrini who started COMBAT HAPKIDO back in 1990. And then founder the International Combat Hapkido Federation in 1992.
I remember reading many articles in MA magazines about Master Pellegrini over the years. I would be happy to extend an open invitation for him to come on our show. But as he is one of many masters who have founded their own Hapkido system, I suggest you check out another show we did, “Is having so many Hapkido systems good for the art?” ruclips.net/video/VB4uNGpYh_Q/видео.html
Why is there no mention of grandmaster Hee Il Chu? 8th Tae kwon do, 8th Hapkido and 8th Judo? He was olympic team coach for a while.
Perhaps we will do a show on him in the future. Stay tuned!
I was taught by Grandmaster Tae M. Kwon and I am his last awarded black belt student. I heard a little different from what you mentioned, but some was in line with history. I have a few more pics of his and more info on Hapkido history. But good segment nontheless.
Choi had a Japanese name while he lived in Japan plus choi was brought to Japan as a servant
Bong Soo Han was the father of American Hapkido.
Yes you're right he was a father of American
The lineage is all messed up. There is no mention from Ji about Chong S Kim. Chong S Kim is the founder of Jang Mu Won Hapkido and who I trained with in Alhambra California. GMK Kim was Chois right hand man. Lived with him and also took care of him. At the 6:17 mark of this video is a picture of Choi and the originals and seated at Chois right hand is the Late Grandmaster Chong S Kim. He was awarded Black Belt magazines instructor of the year and was published numerous times in that magazine as well as many others. Look up Jang Mu Won Hapkido. H! is in Alhambra California and his son Han kim now runs the schools. I hate How Ji claims all his doings...Our GM Kim had learned Taekyon from one of the last masters in Korea in the 50's and incorporated it into Chois system. If you watch any of our demos you will see the difference in techniques.
Thanks It's nice to know more about other Masters. I believe each of us is unique and have to teach with different energy. What ever the Master approved in his learning he will teach. Every Master is different.
Other Koreans are listed in the Diato Ryu records, no reason not to list Choi in the records. All those stories are urban myths.
Oh interesting. Who are the 'other' Koreans apart from Chang In Mok? Thanks
Choi and Myung are names of Masters I remember, I will share with you names of generations back of Moo Sul Kwan Instructors from Moo Sul Kwan history
Hi dear Hapkido enthusiasts!
Can you research and public what school teaches the very original Choi Hapkido Yu Sool system, since seeing Daito Ryu and Korean Hapkido, too much from kicks, Korean Kung Fu has been added.
I pray the very Original Choi not be lost or diluted, Hapkido has evolved but the original set of techniques taught by Choi, at least they must be recorded very much like the Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu mokuroku Ikajo 118 techniques curriculum.
Many years ago I purchased some hapkido books and observed some techniques seems like original hapkido, many other look from kicking Korean martial arts.
Thank you for your work.
Any idea about the other hapkido-like style (also textbook)? There're more style of Hapkido but unclear what's different. Another one I'm curious is Hankido.
Hapkiyusul.
No mention of hwarangdo, kuk sul won, ..?
Aikido and Hapkido came from similiar lineages but Hapkido is definantly not the same as Aikido.
More emphasis on kicks, strikes and throws.
Also groundfight & jointlock
“When the Japanese was taking over Japan” what does that mean?
Yes this is true about the slave boy, Moo Sul Kwan came from him through generations of instructors
is hapkido just.... tang soo do + judo ?
Hapkido is a very broad martial art, so there is bound to be some overlap with other systems. But I think one of the most significant differences is their incorporating of the concept of KI energy.
@@LikeWaterProductions i see...
How did the walking cane get into Hapkido?
Who's gonna tell an old man he can't have his walking stick?
I don't know, When I started practicing it was already there. Good thing about a cane is that you can take it anywhere. The hapkido techniques you learn can be used with the cane. When you get older you have less muscle mass and the cane gives you the leverage you need.
hapkido and aikido are NOT brother n sister.
aikido is very exclusive and only a small pirtion of daito ryu.
hapkido is a shadow of daito ryu and is rather inclusive in regards to techniques,striking,locks,throws,weapons
Great to know...lol
I'm glad
I am 54 can we find me a Sensi that can get me a black belt before I am 60. Hapkido would be the choice, Goju Ryu would be 2nd.
Where do you live?
@@INSTRUCTORG Oklahoma, just outside of Oklahoma City.
@@CinimodNorton I don't know any teachers in that area. I hope you find a great teacher.
5000 years of Korean history and they needed Japan to teach them martial arts? I THINK NOT.
Korean culture and society was dominated by Japan for the better part of a century and before that China. Second I would ask you to think about how common Karate is today in the West, yet we have our own European martial arts, and yet most have very experience with them, with the exception of boxing and wrestling.
HAPKIDO'S CONNECTION WITH AIKIDO AND JIU JITSU. IT'S A KOREAN AND JAPANESE TYPE OF THING. IF IT WASN'T FOR JIU JITSU . THERE BE NO EXIST OF AIKIDO AND HAPKIDO. SOME KOREAN MASTERS PROBABLY STARTED OFF TRAINING IN JAPANESE MARTIAL ARTS.. JUDO IS ANOTHER ONE . JUDO, AIKIDO, HAPKIDO HAS IT'S ROOTS IN JIU JITSU .. JIU JITSU IS ONE OF JAPAN'S MARTIAL ARTS. THERE'S A LINKAGE BETWEEN NINJITSU AND JIU JITSU.. CHINA, JAPAN, KOREA ARE NEIGHBORS SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT THEY BORROWED , STOLE ,COPIED FROM EACH OTHER.. LOOK AT JAPAN, KOREA WRITING SYSTEM. THE TWO DID IN FACT TOOK SOMETHING FROM THE CHINESE WRITING SYSTEM. KOREA HAS HANJA . IT CONSIST OF CHINESE CHARACTERS. THIS WAS CORPORATED INTO THEIR WRITING SYSTEM. JAPAN HAS THEIR OWN VERSION WHICH IS CALL KANJI CONSISTING OF 46 BASIC CHARACTERS..CONFLICT WITH THE NEIGHBORS...
You don’t know or accept the truth, these guys are correct about the slave story