Whatever gets people riding! Nice to see some design on a bike that looks just as good when you ride it in jeans. This is fast becoming, and needs to be, the age of functional cycling.
The versatility of the Sirrus has always been underrated. Sold as a "city bike," it's actually a supremely comfortable and capable mile-muncher. I added fenders, bar ends, trunk and bar bags, top of the line Schwalbe rubber and my decades-old Brooks Pro to the one I bought 4 years ago, and this thing will do a 200-mile day better than just about anything I've ridden, including my fancy tourer. It's quick--rides like a flat-bar road bike. The frame on the new one looks like pure marketing, but the line in general is a perfect all-rounder imho.
Just bought one of these for my wife. The Specialized dealer agreed to fit mudguards, a rack and a kick-stand, but failed miserably on all counts. What's your experience with finding these items which fit well?
@@rob_cd except they didn't have carbon :P Even the Ruut only plans to sells this as a carbon frame, they won't sell the diamond version in steel, aluminum, or titanium.
Smart to introduce it to their Sirius lineup. If it takes off, my guess is it may cross into their other lineups like Roubaix or Diverge. Time will tell.
Interesting. Look forward to hearing what happens in longer term use. For now I'm going to stick with my previous generation X 5.0. I ride it everyday and race gravel occasionally as well.
Hats off to Specialized for continuing to produce a number of models (including this one) in size XXL. As a way of introducing some compliancy to the rear of the frame when fat tyres are not necessarilty desirable, I say suspension seatposts are probably the easiest route - but if this works and isn't detrimentral to frame longevity, I approve of the looks.
Someone should take the old carbon fiber sirrus, and this new one, and put the same tires on it. Then ride back to back to see if there is a noticeable difference in ride comfort. I did see the X in person at my local bike shop and rode it. It is a very striking bike, it looks really cool. I have only owned a 2017 specialized diverge comp carbon, and this bike did feel way smoother. But the tires were more narrow on diverge, and no future shock.
i ride rough gravel roads in the usa rockies a lot, but casually. i think this bike is perfectly speced for gravel riding. ive been riding a steel frame with 45 mm tires and a specialized carbon seat post, and the ride is not too bad, its tolerable, except when the road bed has a lot of cobbles. so, if the specialized compliance junction adds more compliance at the seat, while allowing for use of a faster 38 mm or 40 mm tire while maintaining tolerable levels of comfort on rougher gravel roads, that will be great. im sure that given specialized design resources, they can achieve the claimed compliance stiffness balance
The thought of those downward seat tube stresses meeting the forward bending stresses from that almost-beam rear arm are making my mind boggle. There's a reason why 99% of road bikes have a two-triangle design and it's arrogant to think you can improve on basic engineering principles.
I think a huge miss from specialized is in frame storage. They are the king of that and this bike could use it. I own a 2021 sirrus x 5.0 and it is a fantastic bike. I would get this bike in a heart beat, if I didn't already own and love the old one.
I commute and do gravel/road riding on it when I am bored of mountain biking. These bikes can really spice things up and a flat bar gives you much more confidence on pretty much anything off road. What this bike does is provides an all road experience, takes you from point a to point b, and is a great cross training tool for a mountain biker who doesn't want drop bars. Future shock is a great feature, but definitely should be the 2.0 version. If the bike is indeed sold with the 1.5 option that is a miss for me too.
@@laurieflynn1105 It's good so far. I've only put about 40 miles on it. I added a redshift shock post and a better seat to save my rear end. The handlebar shock post should be mandatory on every bike. Saves nerves pain and numbness in hands are forearms, to an extent.
@@hunkerdown2344 Thank you! My bike was ready on Tuesday but I was mountain bike riding in Palo Duro Canyon on my Rockhopper expert so I will wait until Friday to see it and see if it is better than what i already have. Thank you so much for responding!
@@TheCountrySteve maybe he already did and now just chuckles at the ridiculousness? Maybe you bought a 9kg bike for $8k and feel mad about the good old days?
It looks good but it's a lawsuit waiting to happen especially if made with carbon. One crack or manufacturing defect will put the rider in a world of hurt. And let's not even consider fatigue cracking. I'm an engineer and I would never advocate a design like this without major long term stress testing.
Has anyone actually ridden one of these things? I keep seeing "reviews" that are little more than recitations of the specs and regurgitations of Specialized's marketing hype. I'd like to know if the "compliance junction" actually does what is claimed.
I like the design but how compliant can a frame be compared to a seat post that can deflect 1-2 cm? The original double triangle frame design is very stiff so 172% more of what is it really?
They don't know what to invent to get the money out of your pocket, any bicycle with the same frame measurements takes you from point A, to Point B, to where they want to go with their cruel and bloody bicycle market
All markets are the same no matter if it’s a car, technology, etc… Not everyone is going to drive the same Honda Civic, have the same phone, and so on..each to their own.
@@bf5938 Just a comment that there is no seat tube in the right place to mount a front derailleur. You use a front derailleur to get a wider range of gears than is possible with a 1x drive train
@@keacoq wouldnt really need a second chainring in the front if your already running a 38 or 40 tooth in the front and 11-50 in the rear. Kinda takes care of it all
look how many! like 2 in the frame, 1 underneath and 1 on the top tube (where nobody has every put one). And as a bonus you lose 1 mount with the smaller sizes...smh
That saddle will be swaying from side to side like a Spanish galleon in a storm when any weight on it! I'd venture to say once the bottom triangle snaps on a few customers bikes the patent and the bike will be history!😂😂😂😂😂
Just another gimmick to try and sell more bikes really though. Trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. No doubt some young hipsters will be buying them and raving about how cool they are.
It's all the looks, if You like it. Adjusting tire pressure always has the biggest effect on ride comfort. Everything else is just profit driven marketing fluff.
Yup, and you can easily get away on a bike where it isn't all about handling, performance and stiffness but you just want the looks for marketing and could achieve "compliance" any other way, too ...
This bike should cost $1500 max. It’s a China made frame with cost effective aluminum components and sram rival axs. Who wants to pay double it’s worth?
Sounds like sales and marketing, but carbon fibre frame and it weighs 23 ilbs ! My first steel Reynolds 531 road bike weighed 20.5 ilbs. And as a designer it is just plain ugly, sorry that is my opinion !
Nope. Just no… 2400 for a commuter…I prefer the older design myself, they should have aimed it as a flat bar road bike, a flat bar gravel bike. I’d want 48 or 50 on the front… 38 is just to low, and 40.. top speed just won’t be as fast as a road bike
Don't get it why you need a 50t chainring for commuting. A 38T chain ring pairs with 11t cog can do 40Km/h at 90 cadence. This is a commuting bike, getting you from point A to Point B, not an all out racer.
@@spektrumB I use my flat bar road bike for commutes and 100k+ off /on roads. I can run out of gears on 50 11/34 on a straight. So for me personally. I’d like a choice of a road gearing, ideally subcompact would have the flexibility For a commuter, really why didn’t they use a belt drive?? This bike is a strange mix. High price, low gearing…as you say commuters don’t want to go fast. Carbon frame?? No mud guards an pannier as standard ?? It looks like a mix of flat bar road bike and gravel bike.. but they call it a commuter?? Or a life style bike for popping 5 min to the cafe for a chai latte I loved the older model. I’m not sure I like the direction this one’s going in. Personally I wouldn’t buy it. Distinctive = nickable …. It’s too distinct
It's not tech advance at all. Specialized doesn't want customer converting this bike to a drop bar road bike because it's cheaper than road bike. This design successfully ruined the shape and rigidity of the frame. I started to hate specialized as a owner.
1) it's going to break once you hit a bump or pothole at any pace and the saddle hits your ass. 2) if there is any advantage to the design, and it gets into racing bikes, UCI will bann it straight away.
Yet again CW don’t even do the bare minimum of research. Both models variants from the existing range have the same size tyres, so they aren’t doing anything to change the way it feels. The top X model also has a Future Shock, so nothing is significantly changed other than the frame. Anyone with half a brain knew that the patent application screamed fitness/commuter bike but the “journalists” had to spin it to be about the Roubaix. Amateurs!
Whatever gets people riding! Nice to see some design on a bike that looks just as good when you ride it in jeans. This is fast becoming, and needs to be, the age of functional cycling.
The versatility of the Sirrus has always been underrated. Sold as a "city bike," it's actually a supremely comfortable and capable mile-muncher. I added fenders, bar ends, trunk and bar bags, top of the line Schwalbe rubber and my decades-old Brooks Pro to the one I bought 4 years ago, and this thing will do a 200-mile day better than just about anything I've ridden, including my fancy tourer. It's quick--rides like a flat-bar road bike. The frame on the new one looks like pure marketing, but the line in general is a perfect all-rounder imho.
Just bought one of these for my wife. The Specialized dealer agreed to fit mudguards, a rack and a kick-stand, but failed miserably on all counts. What's your experience with finding these items which fit well?
Back to the 1890s when all sorts of modifications to the diamond frame were tried to make it more comfortable.
Exactly. We've seen this before. Or at least our great great great grandparents have.
@@rob_cd except they didn't have carbon :P Even the Ruut only plans to sells this as a carbon frame, they won't sell the diamond version in steel, aluminum, or titanium.
A carbon bike that also weighs as much as a bike in the 1890's.
Smart to introduce it to their Sirius lineup. If it takes off, my guess is it may cross into their other lineups like Roubaix or Diverge. Time will tell.
Interesting. Look forward to hearing what happens in longer term use. For now I'm going to stick with my previous generation X 5.0. I ride it everyday and race gravel occasionally as well.
Hats off to Specialized for continuing to produce a number of models (including this one) in size XXL. As a way of introducing some compliancy to the rear of the frame when fat tyres are not necessarilty desirable, I say suspension seatposts are probably the easiest route - but if this works and isn't detrimentral to frame longevity, I approve of the looks.
What? 10.8kg for a naked carbon bike at U$ 3000.00? They are kidding us, aren't they?
I thought the same thing. 3K for a townie bike? Too rich for my blood.
+ wonky rear rack mounting system on a lifestyle bike. Look at Harley's price point F'up with ebike's.
my 2013 giant cross city weighs 9kg and was $1200, it i have changed the handle bars to ritchey and seatpost😊 and slr saddle boost
Someone should take the old carbon fiber sirrus, and this new one, and put the same tires on it. Then ride back to back to see if there is a noticeable difference in ride comfort. I did see the X in person at my local bike shop and rode it. It is a very striking bike, it looks really cool. I have only owned a 2017 specialized diverge comp carbon, and this bike did feel way smoother. But the tires were more narrow on diverge, and no future shock.
i ride rough gravel roads in the usa rockies a lot, but casually. i think this bike is perfectly speced for gravel riding. ive been riding a steel frame with 45 mm tires and a specialized carbon seat post, and the ride is not too bad, its tolerable, except when the road bed has a lot of cobbles. so, if the specialized compliance junction adds more compliance at the seat, while allowing for use of a faster 38 mm or 40 mm tire while maintaining tolerable levels of comfort on rougher gravel roads, that will be great. im sure that given specialized design resources, they can achieve the claimed compliance stiffness balance
You could just get wider tires tho without sacrificing frame stiffness and durability.
You can’t charge £2000 for wider tyres.
When you run out of ideas 😂
Just picked one up love it
Expect cracks on the new seatpost fork thingy.
Specialized is the only company that can media coverage for a flatbar bike
I'm picking this bike up not only because it looks great. But all the sirrus line I's amazing
I really like how this looks. I’ll wait for more info and testing but aesthetically, it looks good.
It does not
It's ugly and stupid design
The thought of those downward seat tube stresses meeting the forward bending stresses from that almost-beam rear arm are making my mind boggle. There's a reason why 99% of road bikes have a two-triangle design and it's arrogant to think you can improve on basic engineering principles.
I can't see how that won't just fail if if your full body-weight comes down on the seat. Triangles strong, squares not
that forward arm seems to be the reason it exists, to keep those forward stresses going to the bottom tube instead of into the seat tube.
Honestly I wouldnt be bothered as they have a lifetime frame warranty
This would fit my super fit 145-150 lbs body weight perfectly.
I think a huge miss from specialized is in frame storage. They are the king of that and this bike could use it. I own a 2021 sirrus x 5.0 and it is a fantastic bike. I would get this bike in a heart beat, if I didn't already own and love the old one.
I commute and do gravel/road riding on it when I am bored of mountain biking. These bikes can really spice things up and a flat bar gives you much more confidence on pretty much anything off road. What this bike does is provides an all road experience, takes you from point a to point b, and is a great cross training tool for a mountain biker who doesn't want drop bars. Future shock is a great feature, but definitely should be the 2.0 version. If the bike is indeed sold with the 1.5 option that is a miss for me too.
I was just thinking the same thing. I like everything about this bike other than the lack of a SWAT box.
I also own 2021 Sirrus X 5.0 wich I mostly use for my daily commute in NYC. It's a great bike!
Just ordered one. Due end of next week.
How is it? They are now back in stock and I’m trying to decide if I need that one or the X 4.0 to replace my 2007 3.0. 😀
@@laurieflynn1105 It's good so far. I've only put about 40 miles on it. I added a redshift shock post and a better seat to save my rear end. The handlebar shock post should be mandatory on every bike. Saves nerves pain and numbness in hands are forearms, to an extent.
@@hunkerdown2344 Thank you! My bike was ready on Tuesday but I was mountain bike riding in Palo Duro Canyon on my Rockhopper expert so I will wait until Friday to see it and see if it is better than what i already have. Thank you so much for responding!
Next on HEELLLOOO HAMBINI FANNS!!!
Is going uphill harder with a 1x12 vs a 2x11 ?
It depends on your choice of gearing
2x11 is much easier.
@@arbjful 2x11 wouldn't be easy if you were using a 53/39t chainring and a 11-23 cassette :p
It's an interesting look. As someone who rides often and with a bad back and neck I am interested in how I would feel with this new design.
You’ll feel way better. I ditched my road bike. I ride a cirrus now, never looking back. No bent up neck and pain in the wrists.
£2,400 hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha wasn't that long ago when you could buy an Caad with full ultegra groupset for less than £2000
Those were the good ol'days.... but shit has drastically changed and I think it's bullshit but what can you do
Brilliant. You should go back in time and buy one
@@TheCountrySteve Too busy with your mother
@@Velo757 “it’s bullshit” is whats right. There is no reason this bike costs $3k other than BS
@@TheCountrySteve maybe he already did and now just chuckles at the ridiculousness? Maybe you bought a 9kg bike for $8k and feel mad about the good old days?
Recall waiting to happen!
Just looks like another Gimmick from the bike industry to boost sales more than anything
Is this the David Craig from Tulsa?
A Perfect i- bike.
The questions any owner would face at a cycling cafe would be..... "why the f##k did you buy that!?" hahahaha
Right amount of flex? What was wrong with traditional steel especially for a commuter??
From the POV images it looks a bit bouncy, rather like some older full-sprung mountain bikes.
It looks good but it's a lawsuit waiting to happen especially if made with carbon. One crack or manufacturing defect will put the rider in a world of hurt. And let's not even consider fatigue cracking. I'm an engineer and I would never advocate a design like this without major long term stress testing.
They have no doubt done this.
They spend 10s of millions on r&d.
Carbon is the future it always has been.
Forgiving, flexible,and quick enough to move at speed...
Where did they find that guy???😅😂😂
I love the Design 👍
Looks pretty dope tbh
Comfort without the weight and complexity of suspension? Good innovation if it works.
Just get a suspension seatpost and keep the frame light and stiff. They're maintenance free and more effective than this.
Has anyone actually ridden one of these things? I keep seeing "reviews" that are little more than recitations of the specs and regurgitations of Specialized's marketing hype. I'd like to know if the "compliance junction" actually does what is claimed.
Get it but most folks who are utility riding use rear racks or a high front. Lol 3k... For a lifestyle bike with no rear rack.
I like the design but how compliant can a frame be compared to a seat post that can deflect 1-2 cm? The original double triangle frame design is very stiff so 172% more of what is it really?
The math doesn't seem to add up to me, but supposedly, it's 7.9 mm vs 2.9 mm.
Personally, I put a Redshift suspension seatpost on mine anyway.
@@n0dedotorg Yeah, since then I've found those numbers. Who knows what that means in practice.
They don't know what to invent to get the money out of your pocket, any bicycle with the same frame measurements takes you from point A, to Point B, to where they want to go with their cruel and bloody bicycle market
yeah keep crying
@@christophertan3195 your mother cries more when we make love
All markets are the same no matter if it’s a car, technology, etc… Not everyone is going to drive the same Honda Civic, have the same phone, and so on..each to their own.
🤣
is there a sticker on that bike that says where its made? The comperable Treks say "made in cambodia" -- so just wondering
Made in Vietnam on the Sirrus X5 that I had for a afternoon. The bike looks really hot.
Hard to believe the pricing from this brand. Looks promising though.
What an unholy mess!
How the heck do you fit a bottle onto the rear mounts? 😅
That's what came to my mind.
👉 Zee Cage
I personally think that this bike is just an introduction to a new road bike with a different frame that we have had so far
How much for a hybrid?! 👀
So it's a city bike with a ridiculously high price tag. How do you fit a rack on that? the seat stays are erm in the wrong place.
I think the racks are proprietary. What a joke.
Don’t mind the look of the frame but they’re expensive and heavy for what they are
Where do I mount the front derailleur?
Why would you want a front der? Im guessing this is sarcasm?
@@bf5938 Just a comment that there is no seat tube in the right place to mount a front derailleur. You use a front derailleur to get a wider range of gears than is possible with a 1x drive train
@@keacoq wouldnt really need a second chainring in the front if your already running a 38 or 40 tooth in the front and 11-50 in the rear. Kinda takes care of it all
Crazy idea. Get a Surly CrossCheck instead.
Interesting design
Just call it a bouncy (or Pogo) frame.
Thats not an unusual bottle mounting setup most gravel bikes have the same
look how many! like 2 in the frame, 1 underneath and 1 on the top tube (where nobody has every put one). And as a bonus you lose 1 mount with the smaller sizes...smh
@@noodles0101 I did see a pro gravel rider put a bottle on the top tube. I forgot the name though. I was shocked. That was a first.
That saddle will be swaying from side to side like a Spanish galleon in a storm when any weight on it! I'd venture to say once the bottom triangle snaps on a few customers bikes the patent and the bike will be history!😂😂😂😂😂
Or, you might be surprised.
$RAM and $pecialized trying to reinvent the wheel
Underrated comment
Just another gimmick to try and sell more bikes really though. Trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. No doubt some young hipsters will be buying them and raving about how cool they are.
I was thinking the same thing! It's actually functional!
It's all the looks, if You like it. Adjusting tire pressure always has the biggest effect on ride comfort. Everything else is just profit driven marketing fluff.
Yup, and you can easily get away on a bike where it isn't all about handling, performance and stiffness but you just want the looks for marketing and could achieve "compliance" any other way, too ...
This bike should cost $1500 max.
It’s a China made frame with cost effective aluminum components and sram rival axs. Who wants to pay double it’s worth?
ball crushing saddle tilt setup to😅, not that you could go aero tnoough
just another load of Marketing BS to seperate you from your money!!
@@andrewfennell6511 Me too haha
@@andrewfennell6511 Marketing victim. There are always fluff lovers.
1×12 speed on that?
Why not a beltdrive at least..
It's meant to be a gravel bike
Look up for RONDO RUUT V2...
Needs a dropper post...
Sounds like sales and marketing, but carbon fibre frame and it weighs 23 ilbs ! My first steel Reynolds 531 road bike weighed 20.5 ilbs. And as a designer it is just plain ugly, sorry that is my opinion !
For me it seems a bike nobody has asked for!
Hard to see the benefit being worth the RnD, let alone a production model.
is it a april fools joke
I like Specialized but the frame is so awkward and hard to visually get used to.
This looks doesn’t look like something that will last very long before it fails
Check new Rondo Ruut CF 2.0
Would be interested to ride it but too exy for my liking for what could turn out to be just a marketing gimmick.
love it. gets the cycling effete all lathered up. like anyone cares about leg shaving and other proven cycling forms set by god.
You could do the same by getting an old ATB or MTB with a rigid fork; saving money and not looking ridiculous riding that thing.
It looks like a Cargo Bike that can't carry anything...!!!
This is a bike I would buy strictly for night riding,that
Way people wouldn't see how ugly my bike is!
Creating a bike for RUclipsrs, not serious cyclists...... marketing
So much for using two bottle cages.
Nope. Just no… 2400 for a commuter…I prefer the older design myself, they should have aimed it as a flat bar road bike, a flat bar gravel bike.
I’d want 48 or 50 on the front… 38 is just to low, and 40.. top speed just won’t be as fast as a road bike
Don't get it why you need a 50t chainring for commuting. A 38T chain ring pairs with 11t cog can do 40Km/h at 90 cadence. This is a commuting bike, getting you from point A to Point B, not an all out racer.
@@spektrumB I use my flat bar road bike for commutes and 100k+ off /on roads. I can run out of gears on 50 11/34 on a straight. So for me personally. I’d like a choice of a road gearing, ideally subcompact would have the flexibility
For a commuter, really why didn’t they use a belt drive?? This bike is a strange mix. High price, low gearing…as you say commuters don’t want to go fast. Carbon frame?? No mud guards an pannier as standard ??
It looks like a mix of flat bar road bike and gravel bike.. but they call it a commuter?? Or a life style bike for popping 5 min to the cafe for a chai latte
I loved the older model. I’m not sure I like the direction this one’s going in.
Personally I wouldn’t buy it. Distinctive = nickable …. It’s too distinct
Design wise I think it’s an ugly looking bike.
i thought it was an april fool's joke
It's just a motorbike frame with static swing Arm, not so radical
It might be striking but it’s not pretty.
I am confused about the "this bike is not for cyclists" in thumbnail, so I guess no one use it
April fool
Yeezy but make it bike
It's not tech advance at all. Specialized doesn't want customer converting this bike to a drop bar road bike because it's cheaper than road bike. This design successfully ruined the shape and rigidity of the frame. I started to hate specialized as a owner.
who uses a bottle cage at the bottom of the bike
Yeah, all the mud and crap from the road is going to stick to the bottle....yuck
This frame looks like a needless catastrophic failure waiting to happen and it looks awful.
No ragazzi non si può guardare
Please stop waving your hands about.
That's the fashion, it's inspired by hip-hop fashion innit.
Looks awful … and solves a problem, that no one has on hybrid bikes, with decent tyres. How many hybrid riders need 4 bottles on their bike ffs
1) it's going to break once you hit a bump or pothole at any pace and the saddle hits your ass.
2) if there is any advantage to the design, and it gets into racing bikes, UCI will bann it straight away.
I hate to say it, but distinctive bike are a big negative. They will just be stolen quicker
感觉这玩意很容易断
It just doesn't do it for me looks horrible imo
Yet again CW don’t even do the bare minimum of research. Both models variants from the existing range have the same size tyres, so they aren’t doing anything to change the way it feels. The top X model also has a Future Shock, so nothing is significantly changed other than the frame. Anyone with half a brain knew that the patent application screamed fitness/commuter bike but the “journalists” had to spin it to be about the Roubaix. Amateurs!
It looks like shit and I could go out and buy a used steel/aluminum ATB bike for the same weight and considerably less money with the same ride feel.
Do not Like the Look.
It’s hideous!
The amount of dirt that's going to get on your crankset ans chain will be interesting. How about riding on wet pavement? Good bye clean shoes and legs
looks terrible
Looks like it won't last long