Love my tangies, and I really wanna try out the kiwis aswell. I've tried glorious pandas and silent tactile bobas but they are just to rounded and pronounced. I'm really enjoying my subtle tactile fankenswitches I made with mx brown stems in boba housing, and I'm starting to realize I like more subtle tactile switches. I'm predicting we will see a new wave of subtle tactile becoming more popular in the market soon
I definitely think you'd prefer these over the big, wide bump on the Bobas. If you like more subtle bumps in general, though, you might actually prefer the Dragonfruits. I think the only thing BT got wrong in this otherwise perfect video was when he mentioned them; they actually have a much more subdued bump than Kiwis. It's about the same size, but feels shorter because of the lower force. I think the only downside to the DF's is that they do have more wobble than the other Fruit switches so far; I give them credit for being a nice middle-ground tactile in a market full of strong ones but the quality, while totally decent, isn't up to par with Tangerines or Kiwis.
@@dhoffnun yeah, I’m interested in trying the dragon fruit, I heard they’re basically a mx clear with less spring weight, which sounds awesome. Glad to see people I this hobby are branching out from the conventional tactile switch design and trying out different possibilities.
@@aminmw5258 Yes ruclips.net/video/dUxweIMKnBw/видео.html It's what the glorious panda should have been. It has barely any wobble, reported to have no leaf ping issue, and is of course pcb mount.
Hope some European sellers get them.. So far I'm sitting on a batch of holy Bobas for the Saka 68, but I originally planned to use them in the Kara.. The Kara will get Koalas for now but I would love to put u4ts in it!
Loving my NK65 with TK.C Dragonfruit switches, despite the slight wobble I've got them filmed and lubed. Might have to pick up some Kiwis for my cheaper 70% amazon board to replace the Outemu browns that came with it....
I know I'm a little late here but is it unheard of to swap out the T1 stem for Halo True stem into the Kiwi housing as a frankenstein switch? I'm fairly new to the hobby and about to start my second build on a fresh Kbd75v2 with foam and ordering 100 of these Kiwis and had a bunch of Drop HP's laying around. Idk I just love tactile switches. What do you think?
Having had both the HP and Kiwi's; I agree, I prefer the sound of the HP's. But I prefer the Kiwis tactile bump and overall typing feel. Especially at stock pre filmed. And (not so) sadly, the sound comes second to typing feel for me. And the sounds can get pretty close once you start lubing and filming yourself.
Would you review bobas U4T? Im planning on buying them, saw a few videos and a lot of people said mostly good things about them, would be nice to hear your opinion
BT do you know any medium sized gaming mice that are ambi but with left side buttons and have good sized side buttons, cause I might get the hati m but idk
I went on the site I dont think they are out yet all I find is the dragon Fruit red ones but idk about it imma stick with my tealous v2 linears and debating on what to get for a new linears either creams or somethkng else and new tactile prolly holy pandas idk yet hard decisions I think holy pandas are one of the newt sounded switched also creams when they are lubed. Right now I got tealous v2 and im happy
These are drops. They will be available to purchase at the times stated in the video tomorrow Feb 16th. And they go fast. The last Kiwi drop sold out it's morning batch in under 5 minutes. The afternoon drop sold out in less.
Is it just me or did the sound tests sound a little weird, almost like the audio compression was a little messed up. I tried two different headphones and it didn't make a difference.
im on the fence between glorious pandas and these kiwi switches. i play video games a lot (first-person shooters mainly) and i want a tactile switch that will be comfortable for doing that. any thoughts on which switch would be better?
well... For the price i would choose the kiwi switches, they sound better for gaming and for tiping probably holy pandas, and they are factory lubed, sooo, yeah, i personaly choose kiwi (i know, it's been 2 minutes from the last comment, but a research really fast xd)
I'm just getting into mechs (just leaving my blue switch phase... please help me), and I was wondering what you'd recommend for someone who doesn't know much about soldering? are there any keyboards that come with these switches? they sound awesome! if not, are there any pre-built keyboards with similar sounds that you could recommend? i'm sorry if this isn't your area of expertice! i found your channel last week;;
Prebuilts usually come with Cherry or Gateron switches, and They are usually Blue (Clicky), Black/Red (Linear), or Tactile like these (Brown only, pretty much). The best thing to do is get a hotswappable keyboard so you can swap out switches without soldering. GK61x is the cheapest and best starter hotswappable board and you can buy the kit for like 50$ or so, then buy 70 switches for around 40$ of whatever kind you want. You just pop them into the board and you are done. (add keycaps, of course. Cheap sets on Aliexpress are 20-40$ for cool designs.)
They are not, I have both. Zealios V2 are still the most tactile switch but they come with crap springs that have so much ping and crunch stock. Kiwis are just T1 switches in a different colorway, from what I can see and feel. Just my opinion though!
And now The Key Dot Company has changed their pack sizes from 10 switches to 25, which means people will have to pay for more extra switches that they don't need.
I just bought some gateron yellow caps switches and now I want these. Not sure to go with some glorious pandas later. I'm not even sure if I want linears or táctiles!! Where my #hotswaphoe gang at??!!
Love Caps - typing on them now. Between Pandas and Kiwis, Kiwis all day for me. I love them both but there aren't many tactiles I'd choose over the green bois right now.
@@dhoffnun do you know if they have interference with cherry profile keycaps? I'm tempted to get an Akko cherry profile keyset and lately that topic has come out a bit on reddit and other videos with regards to cherry profile keysets.
these actually felt very similar to the hyperx acquas to me, id prefer those over the kiwis since theyre better for gaming and still feel great to type on, but if all you care about is typing then yea kiwis sound better and you can put them in custom builds
I've had these since launch, and they're quite similar in feel to Zealios switches. I think they sound a little less thocky, IMO, but I also don't particularly like the sound of Zealios switches. I'd say the Tangies are incredible linear switches, and Kiwis are okay tactile switches. Much prefer the Bobas or Pandas (Invyr or Glorious iteration) in terms of sound.
Coming from someone who normally prefers linear. These became my favorite switch as soon as I found out how to tune them. If you aren't lubing the legs on Kiwis you are doing it wrong. They are best with 205g0 with a very light application on the legs and leaf and a thin switch film (Kobos work best for me). When I got my Kiwis from the first drop I tried every different popular combination of lube and films and this is without a doubt the best setup. When you nail it you will know. These switches wake up more than anything I have ever felt when you get them tuned right. I personally really dislike Tangerines and usually not a huge fan of tactiles, so I figured that I wouldn't like the Kiwis at all. I was surprised when I got them and they were pretty good, but from the first press on one that was lubed and filmed properly I fell in love. Buy them, put in the time to find the sweet spot with tuning and thank me later.
@@guyrosen3673 I ended up doing like a full mod on them. Replaced the springs with 67gs, filmed with deskeys, lubed with 3203, and I was searching forever for some T1 tactile stems but no luck. It was my first time ever modding switches so it was an easy test subject to not care too much about.
![Felix "Unfair" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oswujxm2Ag0/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for the review BT! The keyboard is looking sooo good.
GMMK pro review incoming ? :D
thanks for putting this out a day before the sale my guy keep it up
is there a new gb for them coming out?
@@69rZHeatblast9 Well round 1 was a couple months ago I think, but they are doing a round 2 so yes if that's what your asking.
@@mrED123 yeah was asking about the r2, so thats tomorrow?
@@69rZHeatblast9 It is. Be fast and early if you want them, they go fast. If memory serves, the last round of drops on Kiwis lasted all of 5 minutes.
@@bluedragonwolf83 when’s the drop supposed to happen?
Love my tangies, and I really wanna try out the kiwis aswell. I've tried glorious pandas and silent tactile bobas but they are just to rounded and pronounced. I'm really enjoying my subtle tactile fankenswitches I made with mx brown stems in boba housing, and I'm starting to realize I like more subtle tactile switches. I'm predicting we will see a new wave of subtle tactile becoming more popular in the market soon
I definitely think you'd prefer these over the big, wide bump on the Bobas. If you like more subtle bumps in general, though, you might actually prefer the Dragonfruits. I think the only thing BT got wrong in this otherwise perfect video was when he mentioned them; they actually have a much more subdued bump than Kiwis. It's about the same size, but feels shorter because of the lower force. I think the only downside to the DF's is that they do have more wobble than the other Fruit switches so far; I give them credit for being a nice middle-ground tactile in a market full of strong ones but the quality, while totally decent, isn't up to par with Tangerines or Kiwis.
@@dhoffnun yeah, I’m interested in trying the dragon fruit, I heard they’re basically a mx clear with less spring weight, which sounds awesome. Glad to see people I this hobby are branching out from the conventional tactile switch design and trying out different possibilities.
You should review the boba u4t. Even more drawn out bump than holy panda, thockier, and is $.60 a switch. Love your content.
Is it really good ?
@@aminmw5258
Yes
ruclips.net/video/dUxweIMKnBw/видео.html
It's what the glorious panda should have been. It has barely any wobble, reported to have no leaf ping issue, and is of course pcb mount.
Would love to see these switches in mechanicalkeyboards store & Amazon instead of being lost to exclusivity on aliexpress/ringerkeys
@@SimGunther A few more small vendors are selling Gazzew's switches now - 3DKeebs sells the U4Ts. They sell out quick but he restocks regularly.
Hope some European sellers get them.. So far I'm sitting on a batch of holy Bobas for the Saka 68, but I originally planned to use them in the Kara.. The Kara will get Koalas for now but I would love to put u4ts in it!
i just want my tangerines back in stock....
same lol
there going back in stock tomorrow check the site
@@straty7942 thankfully i was able to get my supply last month
A jade black stem inside a holy panda housing creates the best tactile Frankenswitch. Called the Bear switch.
Must have been tough desoldering and resoldering all these switches for testing.
#hotswaphoe 😉
Typing on them right now and they're really pleasant!
@Brandon Taylor how did you get valorant on your screen to be ultra-wide?
That’s a sexy Rama M65-B Milk!
Review?
The everglides the highest pitched ones right?
3:13 I can clearly hear kiwi 'springy' sound (same as blueberry), switches certainly not for me unless this is something else.
bt... you are good people doing good things. thanks for being a person we can trust.
Great video like always BT :) hope everyone has a great week.
love this channel, Keep up the good work!
Thanks Ethan!
i've been waiting on these. i picked up some silent tactile boba U4's, and now im debating it because im pretty happy with mine
That's how I was when I missed the last round of kiwis. I ended up with the Boba U4 housing with Invyr UHMWPE linear stems.
awesome review and comparisons to other tactiles BT 👍🏼 that rama m65b looks clean with gmk cafe 🔥
BT bro please can you do a 2021 setup tour pleasee...
I didn't even hear a difference when they were lubed compared to stock
I have these as well you’ll hear the difference in person. They sound scratchy stock.
@@volcomstone714 I'll take your word on that
Yeah they get even better when relubed.
either bad headphones are you aren't focusing enough
Loving my NK65 with TK.C Dragonfruit switches, despite the slight wobble I've got them filmed and lubed. Might have to pick up some Kiwis for my cheaper 70% amazon board to replace the Outemu browns that came with it....
What board did you put those in? Looks great
Which do you think that is better the Kiwis or the Glorious Pandas?
I know I'm a little late here but is it unheard of to swap out the T1 stem for Halo True stem into the Kiwi housing as a frankenstein switch? I'm fairly new to the hobby and about to start my second build on a fresh Kbd75v2 with foam and ordering 100 of these Kiwis and had a bunch of Drop HP's laying around. Idk I just love tactile switches. What do you think?
what board is that? it looks so clean
Great video! You should try out Gazzew Boba U4T switches!
Your channel is fire man, subbed!
Well the thing I learned from this video is that HPs sound WAY better than everyone but the Everglide Jade Blacks
HP are the sounds gods but these are nice if you want to mix things up. Thanks for watching Neko!
Having had both the HP and Kiwi's; I agree, I prefer the sound of the HP's. But I prefer the Kiwis tactile bump and overall typing feel. Especially at stock pre filmed. And (not so) sadly, the sound comes second to typing feel for me. And the sounds can get pretty close once you start lubing and filming yourself.
Would you review bobas U4T? Im planning on buying them, saw a few videos and a lot of people said mostly good things about them, would be nice to hear your opinion
These are described as P bump...is there any pretravel or does the bump start right from the top?
BT do you know any medium sized gaming mice that are ambi but with left side buttons and have good sized side buttons, cause I might get the hati m but idk
i think i found my first tac switch. eithe these or the dragon fruits or boba thoc
Getting these switches for my first build soon im so excited
I just finished to mod y anne pro 2 with milmax socket and putted some filmed and lubed kiwis , those feel slick as heck
that space bar sounds sooo good
Are Zealios quietest from all tested here?
Will you be reviewing the delux m800 wireless mouse?
I went on the site I dont think they are out yet all I find is the dragon Fruit red ones but idk about it imma stick with my tealous v2 linears and debating on what to get for a new linears either creams or somethkng else and new tactile prolly holy pandas idk yet hard decisions I think holy pandas are one of the newt sounded switched also creams when they are lubed. Right now I got tealous v2 and im happy
These are drops. They will be available to purchase at the times stated in the video tomorrow Feb 16th. And they go fast. The last Kiwi drop sold out it's morning batch in under 5 minutes. The afternoon drop sold out in less.
2:38 what are these keycaps, they look so pretty :3
Gmk cafe
@@someoneyoudontknowtrades noice
What do you think of gate blue
Everglide sounds so good for some reason after lubed
i was debating between eg dark jades or kiwis and ive decided that im gonna get the everglides
@@apricqt I will be much appreciated it if you can share the feeling when you try them out!
@@ratseeker5050 will do! i may end up changing my mind last minute but ill let u know
@@apricqt Thanks a lot! I also made a keyboard review video in my channel thought you might interest to check out!
If i spring swapped them will they be less tactile?
Is it just me or did the sound tests sound a little weird, almost like the audio compression was a little messed up. I tried two different headphones and it didn't make a difference.
Great review on the switch. I like the reduced stem wobble, but I prefer the deeper sound of the holy panda!
what's the keyboard kit and keycap set?
Where can i get the keycaps?
I wish I didn't get a bad batch of kiwis all of mine have terrible leaf ping 😕
What film and lube did you use?
You should do a burger mount mod for your kbd67mk2
When does this go on sale?
Odyssey G9 review coming?
im on the fence between glorious pandas and these kiwi switches. i play video games a lot (first-person shooters mainly) and i want a tactile switch that will be comfortable for doing that. any thoughts on which switch would be better?
idk, i´m buying the kiwi switches, i'm gonna let you know how they feel for gaming
well...
For the price i would choose the kiwi switches, they sound better for gaming and for tiping probably holy pandas, and they are factory lubed, sooo, yeah, i personaly choose kiwi (i know, it's been 2 minutes from the last comment, but a research really fast xd)
Had em on one day went back to my clear steam holy pandas
I'm just getting into mechs (just leaving my blue switch phase... please help me), and I was wondering what you'd recommend for someone who doesn't know much about soldering? are there any keyboards that come with these switches? they sound awesome! if not, are there any pre-built keyboards with similar sounds that you could recommend? i'm sorry if this isn't your area of expertice! i found your channel last week;;
Prebuilts usually come with Cherry or Gateron switches, and They are usually Blue (Clicky), Black/Red (Linear), or Tactile like these (Brown only, pretty much). The best thing to do is get a hotswappable keyboard so you can swap out switches without soldering. GK61x is the cheapest and best starter hotswappable board and you can buy the kit for like 50$ or so, then buy 70 switches for around 40$ of whatever kind you want. You just pop them into the board and you are done. (add keycaps, of course. Cheap sets on Aliexpress are 20-40$ for cool designs.)
You already know I'm here for the best keyboard content on youtube.
Appreciate it mrED!
Do the switches have rgb lighting ?
I thought kiwi had T1 stem, and T1 stem bump is more rounded like a D and not like a P?
Great review and thanks buddy.
How this one compare to t1?
T1 stems too tactile for me but definitely not bad
you should 100% try the gazzew boba u4t
Would you say the Kiwi's are more tactile than the Zealios? Solid review!
They are not, I have both. Zealios V2 are still the most tactile switch but they come with crap springs that have so much ping and crunch stock. Kiwis are just T1 switches in a different colorway, from what I can see and feel. Just my opinion though!
i need this keycap set omggggg
What Keyboard are they in?
I was thinking of getting some Zealios v2 but now I have no idea what to pick..
t1s, boba u4t’s, frankenswitch your own holy pandas (with yok/bsun housing and halo true stem), any jwk tactiles, etc.
@@EpicDrew15 will there be an option to buy like 10 to test it out?
@@oriya1385 you can always buy 10 of any switch to test it out
And now The Key Dot Company has changed their pack sizes from 10 switches to 25, which means people will have to pay for more extra switches that they don't need.
I know what switch to try now, thank you!
Damn already another video, nice
time to get it crackin again! 😏
can anyone else not access the kiwi page?
I feel like you intentionally compared the kiwis in terms of price to the most expensive switches out of the competition.
Of course.. for what you get they are at an amazing price
Is it just me or is BT's voice kinda distorted in this video. But overall loved the video and love ur content.
Can we just talk about how clean the setting is when he is doing a sound test its just so clean. His content is so good 🤤
Do you think these would be a good switch for me to start with ? I’ll be building my first keyboard soon
definitely a great starter switch if you are looking to build your first keyboard.
@@BTaesthetics thank you ! Hopefully I’ll be able to cope some
Which would you say is is the quietest tactile you’ve tried?
If ya looking for a silent tactile, I really have to recommend Gazzew Boba u4
Is that our long awaited RAMA M65-B?
yessir it is
These are my favorites currently, top tier for sure, although I prefer holy pandas for gaming.
linear gang for the win, but some tactiles really do hit
Stream saw it first! shoutout to all the guys and gals who watched the stream
Ey yo BT you should do a review on the TTC Golden Pink Switches!, they are so smooth!, very light though, and love them for gaming.
You can easily spring swap to tx 16mm springs to fix that 😉 also, they are another level of high pitched 🤯
You're going to need to try out some Boba U4Ts my man!
got them already :)
@@BTaesthetics My Man
I'm so glad to see all these comments about the Bobas - Gazzew is blowin' up!
Honestly im planning on getting some
If you can't find them at a reasonable price, check out durock T1 switches. I can't tell a difference between them and the Kiwis.
I just bought some gateron yellow caps switches and now I want these. Not sure to go with some glorious pandas later. I'm not even sure if I want linears or táctiles!! Where my #hotswaphoe gang at??!!
Love Caps - typing on them now. Between Pandas and Kiwis, Kiwis all day for me. I love them both but there aren't many tactiles I'd choose over the green bois right now.
@@dhoffnun do you know if they have interference with cherry profile keycaps? I'm tempted to get an Akko cherry profile keyset and lately that topic has come out a bit on reddit and other videos with regards to cherry profile keysets.
Those are fairly thocky for a tactile
these actually felt very similar to the hyperx acquas to me, id prefer those over the kiwis since theyre better for gaming and still feel great to type on, but if all you care about is typing then yea kiwis sound better and you can put them in custom builds
Hey Have a Wonderful day Bt
you too bro!
I've had these since launch, and they're quite similar in feel to Zealios switches. I think they sound a little less thocky, IMO, but I also don't particularly like the sound of Zealios switches.
I'd say the Tangies are incredible linear switches, and Kiwis are okay tactile switches. Much prefer the Bobas or Pandas (Invyr or Glorious iteration) in terms of sound.
Well done Sir.
M65b??🤩
Yessir finally got it!
@@BTaesthetics awesome man!!
ponker...eh imma just get T1s same shit lol
Laowa lens? thumbnail is 🔥
2:03 drop holy pandas 🥴😬
M65-B awwww yeahhh! I have the big brother u80-A Milk.
Yo can we get a new setup tour updated come on
sooner than you think!
@@BTaesthetics no way no way u responded
@@BTaesthetics holy
Love this.
Thoughts on kam_superuser ?
Copped the alphas and terminal mods
Coming from someone who normally prefers linear. These became my favorite switch as soon as I found out how to tune them. If you aren't lubing the legs on Kiwis you are doing it wrong. They are best with 205g0 with a very light application on the legs and leaf and a thin switch film (Kobos work best for me). When I got my Kiwis from the first drop I tried every different popular combination of lube and films and this is without a doubt the best setup. When you nail it you will know. These switches wake up more than anything I have ever felt when you get them tuned right. I personally really dislike Tangerines and usually not a huge fan of tactiles, so I figured that I wouldn't like the Kiwis at all. I was surprised when I got them and they were pretty good, but from the first press on one that was lubed and filmed properly I fell in love. Buy them, put in the time to find the sweet spot with tuning and thank me later.
Sup guys its bt here
kiwi better than pandas!!??
"Long, drawn-out D's" ;)
kiwis and tangies go so hard c3 outdid themselves
made a horrible mistake and didnt watch the Dragon Fruit review before I bought. Won't make that mistake again.
same here might not be a great idea but tell TCK that the switches are faulty, who know maybe they'll refund you
@@guyrosen3673 I ended up doing like a full mod on them. Replaced the springs with 67gs, filmed with deskeys, lubed with 3203, and I was searching forever for some T1 tactile stems but no luck. It was my first time ever modding switches so it was an easy test subject to not care too much about.
Can I get me sum