I'm shocked you didn't mention Death Stranding. The entire concept is that people are stuck inside and a deliveryman is tasked with reconnecting people after a crisis. If it just came out a few months later, it would have been super relatable and inspiring.
@@getsueinaito I assumed the game was utter crap cause it's backed by EA 4 yrs later still haven't played the game and it's dirt cheap saw a 1 made me think the game is still worthless ip
@@GamerBoy870 I'm kind of in the same pickle as I tend to ignore anything that has anything related to EA. Though Titanfall 1 was slightly ruined for being multiplayer only and titanfall 2 might have been good when they decided to put in a story mode but nope, I'm not touching something tainted by EA even if respawn was headed by the duo responsible for modern warfare
Fate/Stay Night has to be on the top 5 Visual Novels list if he makes it. With how big the series is now with various animes, 3 theatrical movies with two more coming, and one of the best gacha games out there, it deserves a top spot on that list!
Surprised to see you finally give Shantae some time in your spotlight, maybe this is a sign for more Shantae content to show up in your channel in the near future!
I never realized about the over lap of Kingdom of Amalur: Reckoning and Skyrim. We totally skipped Skyrim after being burned by PS version of Oblivion. There is a game breaking bug that prevents you from ever being cured of vampirism that was never patched. Of course we didn't discover this until after we sunk hours into the quest line.
It wasn't that overlapped, it also had to do with the marketing, which Kingdoms of Amalur did not had and it's pretty much why it failed, like one of my teachers said "if you want to sell something, let people know what you are selling"
@@Earthbound500 it did overlap. Skyrim is a game that alot of people (myself included) sunk hundreds of hours into and still play to this day. Late 2011 to early 2012 the only rpg I'd play was Skyrim and while i do play other games more often i STILL go back and play Skyrim. Kingdoms of Amalur might've been a good game but it would've had to been something truly special to make any noise amongst the giants that released around that time that were Skyrim and Dark Souls..
@@Dr.Deluxe like I said that wasn't the main reason why Kingdoms of Amalur failed, when KoA lunch, nobody knew about it, all the fans of the game found it from months to years later, the reason wasn't Skyrim, the reason was, like I said, that nobody knew about it, the people who made KoA did not advertise the game, a product in the market cannot sale if nobody knows it exists and that is the main reason it failed
I feel like PlayStation All-Stars could make the list too, because a lot of the common character complaints would’ve likely been a non-issue five or so years later. ALSO didn’t help that Smash overshadowed it two years later and Sony Santa Monica dissolved SuperBot so both hopes for the game to get attention/patches were yoinked in one fell swoop.
The game just wasn't fun tho. I picked it up and played it twice before realizing it was a half assed attempt at recreating Smash with Playstation characters. Almost everytime someone has tried to replicate Smash they usually don't put in the effort so that's why they die off so quick. Rivals of Aether and Slap City managed to replicate the Smash formula and actually put in work to make a quality game and while they were both eventually overshadowed by Smash Ultimate they're both solid games so they still got dedicated fans and the devs are still dedicated to the game
@@Dr.Deluxe right? hell Playstation All-Stars would have probably been more enjoyable if they'd just blatantly & completely cloned Smash instead of going for that horrible focus on finishers for scoring. And the roster needed work too... of course I'm also the Nintendo geek & Smash fan wishing Ratchet & Clank could be added to Ultimate....
I think TF2’s inclusion on this list was basically inevitable. Funny, since the other TF2 was also released at the wrong time due to being so ahead of its time
I believe titanfall 2 released then because EA just assumed everyone would buy both Battlefield and titanfall. Without even thinking about how many people don't have that kind of money. Also they planned this before cod announced its date. So yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong
Every Bloody Roar game, RUclipsr SCXCR made a series retrospective and he pointed out that every single Bloody Roar game came out either the same week or the same month of the most iconic games of the 5th and 6th generations. And let's get real,Bloody Roar and Breath of Fire could have the most success they ever did if the furries ever got a hold of those franchises.
I suppose this is more of an honorable mention, since the game eventually came out at a different time, but Disaster Report 4 comes to mind. A game about surviving the aftermath of a massive earthquake in Tokyo, it was originally supposed to come out on March 10th, 2011, but got delayed to the end of the season. Then a day later, an _actual_ earthquake hit Japan, so the game went from being delayed to straight-up cancelled out of respect. The game's studio closed down soon after, but it was picked up by another studio and eventually saw release in 2018. One can only imagine how tarnished Disaster Report's legacy would have become had 4 released on schedule...
So has Heihachi Mishima and yet he's rumored to be part of the final DLC pack. Don't get your hopes up. The only characters who have no chance of making it to the Fighters lineup are those already Assist Trophies.
So, most fad-tastic indie games like FNAF or Undertale. No, I'm not saying they're bad, but who nowadays actually talks about the games proper instead of the memes and in-jokes they spawned?
Another one I remember is Horizon Zero Dawn being released the same week as Breath of the Wild, which was still big among Sony fans and sold well bit lost all conversation as breath of the wild and the switch were all anyone talked about for a month
Title: *Top 5 Games Released at the Wrong Time* *see's Shantae* Me: which one? seriously, the first game was released at the end of the GameBoy's lifespan, even later than Pokémon 2nd Generation (which was already established and beloved). do you wanna know what came out just a MONTH after Shantae? Super Mario Sunshine! A. GAMECUBE. TLTLE. ONE. YEAR. INTO. LAUNCH. Then, you have Risky's Revenge, a DSI-Ware game, how many of us knew ANYTHING about this? Pirates Curse came at a perfect time and I'd argue the best of the series, cause now the idea of a download game on the Eshop was a concept that became redily familiar by now.
I don't think RE3 remake's release window was really the problem. After RE2, people were extremely hyped for RE3, but from what I can tell, it failed to live up toe expectations. If anything, COVID would help game sales as people are stuck inside. Also....no, this is not REMOTELY the worst pandemic in human history. Have you forgotten about the Black Death? At a low estimate it killed 75 million people.
Little surprised Metroid Prime: Federation Force wasn’t on here. I’m positive if it wasn’t the first new Metroid game after a long hiatus, it wouldn’t have gotten nearly the amount of hate it did.
I wouldn't quite say the game was bad, but moreso mediocre, much like Prime Hunters was. But yeah, coming off a hiatus and *also* being the release after what is pretty much universally considered the worst game in the franchise.....Yeah, there was no chance it was going to be received well
I'm surprise you really went and talked about Shadow Hearts, a shame what happened since Shadow Hearts Covenant is one of the best JRPGs I've ever seen. Speaking of which, Top Five Worst Localization? Something most people take for granted but really bad localization can cause a lot of issues, I think my two big ones are Ar Tonelico 2 where in the NA there's a potentially game breaking bug compared to the PAL and Japanese versions and Persona Revelation because of the problematic changes,
@@salmastryon3926 yeah the 3rd game was pretty bad honestly, certainly wasn't for me, I think had it been as good as Covenant the series would still be alive because Covenant is awesome
The Fire Emblem Fates localization butchered, like, so much of the cast and lore. Not helped by a lot of major story beats being locked behind payed dlc, though that's a seperate issue entirely.
Wild Arms 2 I stopped playing for ONE YEAR to a puzzle innthe final dungeon The answer was THE DAYS OF THE WEEK I had to learn international mythology to realize that it was supposed to be THAT The dialogue when certain alien lizards came into scene was even more interesting... To keep it family friendly XD
Another game that I feel was released at the wrong time and overshadowed by another game is Horizon: Zero Dawn, which had to compete with Breath of the Wild.
I'm honestly surprised Horizon: zero dawn wasn't on this list. Yes it's a great game that now has the respect it deserves, but it started with frankly abysmal sales, mostly because releasing a new IP open world action adventure RPG the same week as Zelda: Breath of the Wild was never going to end well.
Since you mentioned Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, I'm just gonna put it out there that it had a remake(remaster?) come out September 8th called, aptly, Kingdoms of Amalur: ReReckoning. It comes with all the DLC from the original and will be getting some new DLC in 2021
@@marhawkman303 I found it very boring. Fetch 7 of this, then kill 5 of this, then listen to some plant-elf go on and on about a dream he had. Felt like early-days WoW, just without any human characters to make it fun.
Shadow Hearts was a really good game, but it's not actually the first. There was a game that was actually a prequel in the series timeline that was on the playstation called Koudelka. It was a different type of gameplay, but still worked closely to Shadow Hearts.
Kinda freaked out at first cause that Shantae in the thumbnail looks exactly like the art style used in a certain *ahem* adult game I saw the other day online
I haven’t watched the video yet, but one game I can say that was released at a horrible time was FE: Radiant Dawn. I believe they released it in the same week as Mario Galaxy...
Literally the week before. Not helping was it being a part 2 of an ongoing narrative, and it's reputation as "the hardest in the series" on a console that catered to a more casual, less skilled audience. Along with strategy RPGs still being pretty niche at the time.
Is this sarcastic? I have been watching video game commentary for years and literally have never heard about shantae, maybe somehow I missed everything.
@@charteon9092 I've played all the games in the series and still don't see anybody really talk about it that much. Like I know people want her in Smash and I could think up a few good movesets for her in that regard, but I really don't see that much discussion surrounding the games at all.
Shadow Hearts reference FTW! A much younger me actually emailed the developer essentially begging them to release 'SH: From the new world' in the UK when it looked like that wasn't going to happen. A shamefully overlooked series.
Would that include games where you can become a villain if you go down the “right” story path? Or just games where you can switch characters to the villain?
Despite being released after Skyrim, I was actually more interested in Kingdoms of Amular. I had never played an Elder Scrolls game so I wasn’t into Skyrim. There was also the fact that you weren’t locked into one class and could switch at any point in the game that drew me to KoA.
Two Nintendo games come to mind for this phenomenon. Kirby's Dreamland 3 is a charming title with some fantastic art design, but it had the bad fortune of coming out both at the end of the SNES's lifespan (when most fans had moved on to the N64) and after Kirby Superstar. The latter title's big expansion of moves and mechanics couldn't help but make the former's focus on slower and simpler levels with puzzled based goals feel a bit underwhelming. Its gotten a cult following since, but had it come right after Dreamland 2, its fate might have been different. The other significant one is of course, Federation Force. Whether or not it ever had the chance to be that big of a success, its trailer in 2015 and release in 2016 meant it never would. A co-op shooter with a soccer mini-game was immediately despised by a Metroid fanbase that had been longing for a mainline game for years. Couple that with a controversial art style and being released in the same window that AM2R was taken down meant few hardcore fans (the ones who would make or break its sales) were ever going to give it the benefit of the doubt. A potentially right game at the absolute worst time.
On a more recent note, Granblue Fantasy Versus. A big fighting game with tons of international competition potential released a month before Covid shutdowns.
Would you count Grim Fandango on the list? I mean around the same time as: Half Life Metal Gear Solid Crash Bandicoot Warped Zelda Ocarina of Time. I mean, damn...
to be honest EA tried to pull a Titanfall 2 by releasing a fairly small game (by respawn... again) that they didn't provide much fanfare for (relatively) alongside Anthem... so yeah it was good to see Respawn win out that time :P
I'm a bit surprised Metroid Prime Federation Force wasn't even mentioned here, but since the topic is about bigger games overshadowing good games rather than terribly timed marketing, I guess that makes sense. If Federation Force was held back a year and a half and release after Prime 4 and Samus Returns were revealed, people would have been a lot less angry about it.
It's true. Federation Force is a harmless enough spin-off but I remember it really rubbing me the wrong way at the time just because it was the ON:Y Metroid thing we'd gotten' in so longwith no clear indication Nintendo had other plans for the ip. As it stands I now worry that that was the first and last chance to get some more expanded lore and games that took place through the eyes of characters other than Samus and that makes me a little sad.
Not to mention, Federation Force was basically released on Metroid's 30th anniversary. Think about that: A spinoff, instead of a mainline title, coming put during one of the most important years in an franchise's lifetime. It's like when Sega decided that Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice would celebrate 25 years of Sonic. Sure, Lego Dimensions released a Sonic DLC at the same time, but that was not published by Sega nor developed by Sonic Team. What I'm trying to say is that it really was bad timing in more ways than one.
It was also mainly multiplayer based. Considering how few people play Metroid games these days, let alone a spin off on the 3DS of all systems, it wasn't a terribly great single player experience for fans
@@InterstellarStarSailor Few people play Metroid, and those who do aren't the multiplayer type. It was never going to end well and I have a hard time believing NO ONE at Nintendo knew that.
Horizon Zero Dawn was released on the same day as the Nintendo Switch AND Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild! How it was as successful as it was is beyond me.
The real tragedy of Shadow Hearts isn't how poorly the first game did but how fucking few people have touched Shadow Hearts: Covenant. I will still fight anyone that argues with me that Shadow Hearts: Covenant is one of the best goddam JRPGs ever. Not only is the story phenomenal (I literally wept at the ending) but the music is outstanding and the cast of characters are just so charming. FFS one of your team is a gay vampire luchador who upgrades weapons by finding random giant ass shit laying around and deciding to make it a weapon. From a telephone pole to a canoe and even a giant tuna. The game is about as insane as those last two sentences made it sound and IT. IS. GLORIOUS.
Absollum I was very surprised they didn’t add a playable hunter for Smash 3DS/WiiU, especially considering that the new MH games at the time (3U, 4U, and I think Generations) were exclusive to Nintendo systems. A Smash remix of Proof of a Hero is practically begging to be made too.
@@KidKatastrophe2314 plus they don't even have to make a new stage. The have one already and I honestly thought they were going to announce a hunter as a character when they showed it off.
"In your ramblings, PuffballsUnited has cast a Distraction spell. Now, your body is contorting into a repetitive dance sequence that was already memed upon as it was, but now you're at the forefront of the second wave. You dance, and dance, until the wind and the sun eats your skin away, leaving behind your remains."
Another great RPG that got swept aside due to the Final Fantasy train would be Suikoden II that came out about a month before Final Fantasy VII. And of the two, Suikoden II is the better RPG. Though I'm sure I'd be shot for admitting it.
I think Kingdoms of Amalur had a promotion with Mass Effect 3. Where if you played the demo to completion you got bonuses in ME3. I think it was that game.
A idea for a list video. 5 games that ALMOST came out at the wrong time. Watch Dogs almost came out at the same time as GTA V. Imagine where Watch Dogs could've been if it did release then. Especially after GTA Online's first months.
The Xenosaga trilogy got overshadowed by other games during each release. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has two dlc’s that has two characters from Xenosaga as playable summons, so at least Monolith Soft didn’t forget the games existed (can’t say the same for Sega and Capcom).
in a similar vain, the movie super was looked at as a kickass rip-off because it released not long after with a similar idea, but super actually started production first
The Shadow Hearts series could have been so far, but at least we've had 3 great games out of them. Apparently, the creator is considering a kickstarter project akin to Eiyuden Chronicles. Something to look out for!
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning has that subtitle that makes it sound like a sequel, but, I haven't ever heard of a previous KoA game. And it's a weird case. I played it, I enjoyed it, I set it down because it was long and I had other things in life, and I never picked it back up. And hereabouts these days, I don't think it holds up as well as newer games. Somehow, it always feels weird to me when people bring it up, because for years, I swore I was like the only person who knew about the game.
The devs apparently had plans to make more games based on the franchise, but those failed when the game failed to make a profit. Apparently the idea was to preemptively avoid confusion about which game in the series it was. Which... until this year... was a non-issue.
Split/Second and Blur should've been included here: Both unique cult-classic racing games that came at the same time and ended up killing both their studios...
Dishonorable Mention: Sonic Forces That game came out a week after Super Mario Odyssey was released, which *really* hurt the sales of Sonic Forces (especially in Japan) due to Odyssey getting all the attention. Then again it was Sega's own fault for marketing the game so badly & releasing the game so close to the release of a highly anticipated game.
I'm like, 99+% sure that EA released Titanfall 2 when it did in a deliberate attempt to make it fail, forcing Respawn to sell their studio to EA, thereby getting rid of an extremely competent potential future competitor and get an extremely competent studio in their own pocket.
I don't think EA is that intelligent tbh. If they thought of it, they might've done that on purpose, but I don't think they did. They're just trend following cowards that wanted all their holiday video game money because that's when the most money is spent on games, so they did a dumb thing because they are stupid.
Oh dammit I just thought of a potential entry for this list, at least an honorable mention: Fire Embelm Fates and Project X Zone 2. One can assume which one sold better than the other, which is funny considering Chrom & Lucina are in both games.
I watch this list and honestly it just reminds me of when Fire Emblem Warriors came out. Not only did freaking Mario Odyssey come out just a week later, but Nintendo had also just announced hyrule warriors definitive edition on the switch, and all theses decisions were made by the same company, its not even like they released it at the same time as another company's game, they just decided they wanted to absolutely canibalize any hopes that game had of selling, which made me rather sad tbh, i was rather excited for the game and had a deluxe edition preordered and then they just made it feel not worth even having.
Prince of Persia Sands of Time on the PS2 released on November 2003 was the biggest mistake by Ubisoft. There was way too many games released during that month of that year on the PS2 and the original XBox, even Nintendo had some notable releases on the Nintendo Gamecube.
I highly expected to see Titanfall 2 and Battleborn on this list, but not Shantae GBC. Instead I was thinking of Shantae and the Seven Sirens, since I barely even heard about it when it first launched, and I feel like releasing on the same day as a remake of a beloved, 10-year old RPG might’ve contributed to that.
Fun Fact: I was part of the team on two of the Shantae games.
Oh wow! Which ones?
Wait really?!😳☺️
Nice. Which ones?
Props to you!
@@shadedepeche2556 Pritate's Curse was one of them at least
I'm shocked you didn't mention Death Stranding. The entire concept is that people are stuck inside and a deliveryman is tasked with reconnecting people after a crisis. If it just came out a few months later, it would have been super relatable and inspiring.
Holy crap
... I am not allergic so WHY...
BTs nearby?!
A true strand-type game.
Wouldn't make the gameplay any less garbage, though.
Glad to see Titanfall 2 on the list. Such a great game needlessly tossed into a can’t win battle.
What they did to titanfall 2 was a travesty
Rather than needlessly, the right word to be used is purposefully. The publisher EA likely wanted it to fail
@@getsueinaito I assumed the game was utter crap cause it's backed by EA 4 yrs later still haven't played the game and it's dirt cheap saw a 1 made me think the game is still worthless ip
@@GamerBoy870 I'm kind of in the same pickle as I tend to ignore anything that has anything related to EA. Though Titanfall 1 was slightly ruined for being multiplayer only and titanfall 2 might have been good when they decided to put in a story mode but nope, I'm not touching something tainted by EA even if respawn was headed by the duo responsible for modern warfare
Titanfall 2 is honestly one of my favorite FPS games of all time. EA did it dirty. It’s better than both Infinite Warfare and Battlefield 1
Top 5 Visual Novels.
There's a surprisingly large amount of variety and quality in the genre, it could make for an interesting topic.
Especially the one with the bear
umineko is easily up there as one of the best. that incredible soundtrack is just the cherry on the top.
Fate/Stay Night has to be on the top 5 Visual Novels list if he makes it. With how big the series is now with various animes, 3 theatrical movies with two more coming, and one of the best gacha games out there, it deserves a top spot on that list!
Steins;Gate & Chaos;Child
@@turtleguymcturtle4303
Monokuma from Danganronpa
Or
Another one of the visual novels with a bear character?
Surprised to see you finally give Shantae some time in your spotlight, maybe this is a sign for more Shantae content to show up in your channel in the near future!
I never realized about the over lap of Kingdom of Amalur: Reckoning and Skyrim. We totally skipped Skyrim after being burned by PS version of Oblivion. There is a game breaking bug that prevents you from ever being cured of vampirism that was never patched. Of course we didn't discover this until after we sunk hours into the quest line.
It wasn't that overlapped, it also had to do with the marketing, which Kingdoms of Amalur did not had and it's pretty much why it failed, like one of my teachers said "if you want to sell something, let people know what you are selling"
@@Earthbound500 it did overlap. Skyrim is a game that alot of people (myself included) sunk hundreds of hours into and still play to this day. Late 2011 to early 2012 the only rpg I'd play was Skyrim and while i do play other games more often i STILL go back and play Skyrim. Kingdoms of Amalur might've been a good game but it would've had to been something truly special to make any noise amongst the giants that released around that time that were Skyrim and Dark Souls..
@@Dr.Deluxe like I said that wasn't the main reason why Kingdoms of Amalur failed, when KoA lunch, nobody knew about it, all the fans of the game found it from months to years later, the reason wasn't Skyrim, the reason was, like I said, that nobody knew about it, the people who made KoA did not advertise the game, a product in the market cannot sale if nobody knows it exists and that is the main reason it failed
@@Earthbound500 even crazier is that if you look at sales numbers... KoA actually had decent sales. But it needed DOUBLE those figures to break even.
Mario and Luigi: Bowsers Inside Story DX
A good remake, but released at a time that potentially killed alphadream
Yeah. The 3ds was already dying when it released
Thinking about it makes me cry.
Tbh I wouldn’t call it a good remake, although that’s mainly because the original is just better in many ways imo
nobody the giant battles ( aside from peach’s castle ) are a joke now, but I will acknowledge the fire breathing, it did suck in the original
I feel like PlayStation All-Stars could make the list too, because a lot of the common character complaints would’ve likely been a non-issue five or so years later. ALSO didn’t help that Smash overshadowed it two years later and Sony Santa Monica dissolved SuperBot so both hopes for the game to get attention/patches were yoinked in one fell swoop.
The game just wasn't fun tho. I picked it up and played it twice before realizing it was a half assed attempt at recreating Smash with Playstation characters. Almost everytime someone has tried to replicate Smash they usually don't put in the effort so that's why they die off so quick. Rivals of Aether and Slap City managed to replicate the Smash formula and actually put in work to make a quality game and while they were both eventually overshadowed by Smash Ultimate they're both solid games so they still got dedicated fans and the devs are still dedicated to the game
@@Dr.Deluxe right? hell Playstation All-Stars would have probably been more enjoyable if they'd just blatantly & completely cloned Smash instead of going for that horrible focus on finishers for scoring. And the roster needed work too...
of course I'm also the Nintendo geek & Smash fan wishing Ratchet & Clank could be added to Ultimate....
I think TF2’s inclusion on this list was basically inevitable. Funny, since the other TF2 was also released at the wrong time due to being so ahead of its time
I believe titanfall 2 released then because EA just assumed everyone would buy both Battlefield and titanfall. Without even thinking about how many people don't have that kind of money. Also they planned this before cod announced its date. So yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong
Why would you need the announcement for COD? It always releases between late October and early November.
Every Bloody Roar game, RUclipsr SCXCR made a series retrospective and he pointed out that every single Bloody Roar game came out either the same week or the same month of the most iconic games of the 5th and 6th generations.
And let's get real,Bloody Roar and Breath of Fire could have the most success they ever did if the furries ever got a hold of those franchises.
Is still have a full doc for a sequel
New chars
New Mechanics
Two bosses
Halley, Holy Griffon
Hannibal the Demon
@Grima the Fell Dragon werebeasts In so many genres, but somehow not big in FGC....
HOW
I suppose this is more of an honorable mention, since the game eventually came out at a different time, but Disaster Report 4 comes to mind. A game about surviving the aftermath of a massive earthquake in Tokyo, it was originally supposed to come out on March 10th, 2011, but got delayed to the end of the season. Then a day later, an _actual_ earthquake hit Japan, so the game went from being delayed to straight-up cancelled out of respect. The game's studio closed down soon after, but it was picked up by another studio and eventually saw release in 2018. One can only imagine how tarnished Disaster Report's legacy would have become had 4 released on schedule...
In the spirit of Halloween:
5 horrorgames that are not scary
5 enemies you can't defeat
5 most bloody games
As much I like FNaF, I will gladly suggest that Rabbid should tear apart FNaF 3 again.
"Anyone can get into Smash Bros" thanks for reminding me that Travis Touchdown is just a costume.
So has Heihachi Mishima and yet he's rumored to be part of the final DLC pack. Don't get your hopes up. The only characters who have no chance of making it to the Fighters lineup are those already Assist Trophies.
@@jlev1028 turns out it was another mishima
Top Five Games Better Known As Memes.
Example: Sega Rally Championship...a racing game known these days for that Game Over jingle.
DK64? The DK Rap is a big meme
So, most fad-tastic indie games like FNAF or Undertale.
No, I'm not saying they're bad, but who nowadays actually talks about the games proper instead of the memes and in-jokes they spawned?
Metal gear rising is the meme of memes.
Ronaldinho Soccer 64
Hawhawhaw
GRAND DAD! (Nobody talks about the Rescue of Dino and Hoppy outside of the bootleg memes)
Ghost Trick coming out at the end of the DS's lifespan keeps me up at night
Another one I remember is Horizon Zero Dawn being released the same week as Breath of the Wild, which was still big among Sony fans and sold well bit lost all conversation as breath of the wild and the switch were all anyone talked about for a month
But it didn't underperformed. And it's getting a sequel on the PS5. So clearly that didn't cause any problems long-term.
Hzd definitely didnt get any significant loss of sales cause of that
Shantae has been released 8 months after it was finished. Today, most games get released about 8 months before they are finished.
Ace Combat 7 is an interesting case. It was one of two games released in early 2019 featuring a villain called Mr. X.
Title: *Top 5 Games Released at the Wrong Time*
*see's Shantae*
Me: which one?
seriously, the first game was released at the end of the GameBoy's lifespan, even later than Pokémon 2nd Generation (which was already established and beloved). do you wanna know what came out just a MONTH after Shantae? Super Mario Sunshine! A. GAMECUBE. TLTLE. ONE. YEAR. INTO. LAUNCH.
Then, you have Risky's Revenge, a DSI-Ware game, how many of us knew ANYTHING about this?
Pirates Curse came at a perfect time and I'd argue the best of the series, cause now the idea of a download game on the Eshop was a concept that became redily familiar by now.
Resident Evil 3 Remake: We are in thr midst of the worst pandemic in human history
Everyone IRL at the height of COVID:😬😬😬
I dunno. I think I'll take COVID over the T-virus.
We aren't at the height
Agreed dude. Agreed.
I think there were some changes fans really hated as well.
I don't think RE3 remake's release window was really the problem. After RE2, people were extremely hyped for RE3, but from what I can tell, it failed to live up toe expectations. If anything, COVID would help game sales as people are stuck inside. Also....no, this is not REMOTELY the worst pandemic in human history. Have you forgotten about the Black Death? At a low estimate it killed 75 million people.
Little surprised Metroid Prime: Federation Force wasn’t on here. I’m positive if it wasn’t the first new Metroid game after a long hiatus, it wouldn’t have gotten nearly the amount of hate it did.
But that game was bad
I wouldn't quite say the game was bad, but moreso mediocre, much like Prime Hunters was. But yeah, coming off a hiatus and *also* being the release after what is pretty much universally considered the worst game in the franchise.....Yeah, there was no chance it was going to be received well
You're not talking about the same "bad time" here. The video is talking about games released at a bad year.
I'm surprise you really went and talked about Shadow Hearts, a shame what happened since Shadow Hearts Covenant is one of the best JRPGs I've ever seen.
Speaking of which, Top Five Worst Localization? Something most people take for granted but really bad localization can cause a lot of issues, I think my two big ones are Ar Tonelico 2 where in the NA there's a potentially game breaking bug compared to the PAL and Japanese versions and Persona Revelation because of the problematic changes,
I did love Shadow Hearts. I just couldn't get into the third one, I wonder how much that might have effected things.
Worst localizations Breath of Fire II,Tales of Phantasia on GBA,Ys VIII Unpatched and Albert Oddesey.
@@salmastryon3926 yeah the 3rd game was pretty bad honestly, certainly wasn't for me, I think had it been as good as Covenant the series would still be alive because Covenant is awesome
The Fire Emblem Fates localization butchered, like, so much of the cast and lore. Not helped by a lot of major story beats being locked behind payed dlc, though that's a seperate issue entirely.
Wild Arms 2
I stopped playing for ONE YEAR to a puzzle innthe final dungeon
The answer was THE DAYS OF THE WEEK
I had to learn international mythology to realize that it was supposed to be THAT
The dialogue when certain alien lizards came into scene was even more interesting... To keep it family friendly XD
Another game that I feel was released at the wrong time and overshadowed by another game is Horizon: Zero Dawn, which had to compete with Breath of the Wild.
I'm honestly surprised Horizon: zero dawn wasn't on this list. Yes it's a great game that now has the respect it deserves, but it started with frankly abysmal sales, mostly because releasing a new IP open world action adventure RPG the same week as Zelda: Breath of the Wild was never going to end well.
Well, at least BotW wasn't multiplat.
@@SakuraAvalon Horizon was PS4 exclusive until this year.
In March 2017, BOTW was the #2 selling game, and HZD was the #4 selling game (somehow both lost to Ghost Recon Wildlands). They both did well.
Nah. Both games sold well
@@Chaotix_ I meant that it not being multiplat, meant that BotW couldn't take sales away from Horizon, when it came to people who only own a PS4.
Since you mentioned Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, I'm just gonna put it out there that it had a remake(remaster?) come out September 8th called, aptly, Kingdoms of Amalur: ReReckoning. It comes with all the DLC from the original and will be getting some new DLC in 2021
is it still really boring?
@@InTaco7 It was never really boring in the first place. Sure you do a lot of walking, but... enh... it has fast travel options.
@@marhawkman303 I found it very boring. Fetch 7 of this, then kill 5 of this, then listen to some plant-elf go on and on about a dream he had. Felt like early-days WoW, just without any human characters to make it fun.
Glad Shantae made the list.
But more so that she overcame her situation.
oh, and a suggestion- top five intentionally enigmatic characters in video games.
Shadow Hearts was a really good game, but it's not actually the first. There was a game that was actually a prequel in the series timeline that was on the playstation called Koudelka. It was a different type of gameplay, but still worked closely to Shadow Hearts.
Kinda freaked out at first cause that Shantae in the thumbnail looks exactly like the art style used in a certain *ahem* adult game I saw the other day online
I haven’t watched the video yet, but one game I can say that was released at a horrible time was FE: Radiant Dawn. I believe they released it in the same week as Mario Galaxy...
Jesus Christ. No wonder Fire Emblem took so long to take off in the west
Literally the week before. Not helping was it being a part 2 of an ongoing narrative, and it's reputation as "the hardest in the series" on a console that catered to a more casual, less skilled audience. Along with strategy RPGs still being pretty niche at the time.
Top Ten Urban Legends In Games That Turned Out To Be Real
I'm surprised by how much you don't talk about Shantae, seeing as how no one will ever shut up about the series!
Is this sarcastic? I have been watching video game commentary for years and literally have never heard about shantae, maybe somehow I missed everything.
@@charteon9092 Yes you have.
Yeah. *Smash fans* won't shut up about her
Manuel Alberto Romero well shit looks like Alzheimer’s has caught up to me at the age of 18. Would not be the first very common thing that I forgot.
@@charteon9092 I've played all the games in the series and still don't see anybody really talk about it that much. Like I know people want her in Smash and I could think up a few good movesets for her in that regard, but I really don't see that much discussion surrounding the games at all.
Shadow Hearts reference FTW! A much younger me actually emailed the developer essentially begging them to release 'SH: From the new world' in the UK when it looked like that wasn't going to happen. A shamefully overlooked series.
@@BJGvideos Yeah, they said there was no plans to do so. Then they did anyway several months later.
Top Five Games Where You Can Play As the Villain
Yes!!!
Would that include games where you can become a villain if you go down the “right” story path? Or just games where you can switch characters to the villain?
Tales of Smyphonia
#MithosYggdrasildidnothingwrong
He did that already, though that was like 2 years ago.
James Benson Games, specifically, where the villain becomes a playable character.
Despite being released after Skyrim, I was actually more interested in Kingdoms of Amular. I had never played an Elder Scrolls game so I wasn’t into Skyrim. There was also the fact that you weren’t locked into one class and could switch at any point in the game that drew me to KoA.
Two Nintendo games come to mind for this phenomenon.
Kirby's Dreamland 3 is a charming title with some fantastic art design, but it had the bad fortune of coming out both at the end of the SNES's lifespan (when most fans had moved on to the N64) and after Kirby Superstar. The latter title's big expansion of moves and mechanics couldn't help but make the former's focus on slower and simpler levels with puzzled based goals feel a bit underwhelming. Its gotten a cult following since, but had it come right after Dreamland 2, its fate might have been different.
The other significant one is of course, Federation Force. Whether or not it ever had the chance to be that big of a success, its trailer in 2015 and release in 2016 meant it never would. A co-op shooter with a soccer mini-game was immediately despised by a Metroid fanbase that had been longing for a mainline game for years. Couple that with a controversial art style and being released in the same window that AM2R was taken down meant few hardcore fans (the ones who would make or break its sales) were ever going to give it the benefit of the doubt. A potentially right game at the absolute worst time.
KD3's art design is so good. It's one of few games that's charming just to look at.
On a more recent note, Granblue Fantasy Versus.
A big fighting game with tons of international competition potential released a month before Covid shutdowns.
Honorable mention: Beyon Good and Evil.
Squeezed between too many established names in the busy fall-pre-X-Mass season.
Would you count Grim Fandango on the list?
I mean around the same time as:
Half Life
Metal Gear Solid
Crash Bandicoot Warped
Zelda Ocarina of Time.
I mean, damn...
Still looking forward to Top 5/10 Games that Never Left Japan.
Mostly because I want Rabbid to talk about Super Robot Wars.
Just like to point out that Shadow Hearts is actually the second game in the series. The first game is the PS1 title Koudelka.
5:38 man, that music from Kingdom of Amalur, so good
to be honest EA tried to pull a Titanfall 2 by releasing a fairly small game (by respawn... again) that they didn't provide much fanfare for (relatively) alongside Anthem... so yeah it was good to see Respawn win out that time :P
I knew Shantae's initial release wasn't the smoothest, but I never knew just how poorly it was handled.
Yeah, there is a reason the timegap between the original and Risky's Revenge was so wide.
And yet it still recovered and released it's fifth game earlier this year. Just shows how much potential there is in that series.
Well, when you start at the bottom, you can only go up! And I'm really happy Shantae did, really wanna play a game someday.
Funnily great timing talking about Shantae 1 with it getting a rerelease around now.
Shantae still deserves more love!
I'm a bit surprised Metroid Prime Federation Force wasn't even mentioned here, but since the topic is about bigger games overshadowing good games rather than terribly timed marketing, I guess that makes sense. If Federation Force was held back a year and a half and release after Prime 4 and Samus Returns were revealed, people would have been a lot less angry about it.
It's true. Federation Force is a harmless enough spin-off but I remember it really rubbing me the wrong way at the time just because it was the ON:Y Metroid thing we'd gotten' in so longwith no clear indication Nintendo had other plans for the ip. As it stands I now worry that that was the first and last chance to get some more expanded lore and games that took place through the eyes of characters other than Samus and that makes me a little sad.
It's honestly impressive how Nintendo seems to not understand their fanbase a lot of the time.
Not to mention, Federation Force was basically released on Metroid's 30th anniversary. Think about that: A spinoff, instead of a mainline title, coming put during one of the most important years in an franchise's lifetime. It's like when Sega decided that Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice would celebrate 25 years of Sonic. Sure, Lego Dimensions released a Sonic DLC at the same time, but that was not published by Sega nor developed by Sonic Team. What I'm trying to say is that it really was bad timing in more ways than one.
It was also mainly multiplayer based. Considering how few people play Metroid games these days, let alone a spin off on the 3DS of all systems, it wasn't a terribly great single player experience for fans
@@InterstellarStarSailor Few people play Metroid, and those who do aren't the multiplayer type. It was never going to end well and I have a hard time believing NO ONE at Nintendo knew that.
"First in a Franchise."
Koudelka: Am I a joke to you?
WHOA
I got the magazine with a mini guide for that game!
It looks good for a game then and looks fun. Too bad it’s a pricy grab.
Horizon Zero Dawn was released on the same day as the Nintendo Switch AND Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild!
How it was as successful as it was is beyond me.
The real tragedy of Shadow Hearts isn't how poorly the first game did but how fucking few people have touched Shadow Hearts: Covenant. I will still fight anyone that argues with me that Shadow Hearts: Covenant is one of the best goddam JRPGs ever. Not only is the story phenomenal (I literally wept at the ending) but the music is outstanding and the cast of characters are just so charming. FFS one of your team is a gay vampire luchador who upgrades weapons by finding random giant ass shit laying around and deciding to make it a weapon. From a telephone pole to a canoe and even a giant tuna. The game is about as insane as those last two sentences made it sound and IT. IS. GLORIOUS.
Smash bros: allows minecraft Steve in
Dark souls fans: okay, now someone call fromsoft and get them to buy a space darnit
I think if Byleth was a DS character, with the same attacks, no one would've complained.
Or a monster hunter. Still really want monster hunter to be a dlc character, but I'm not holding my breath.
#shantae4smash
Absollum I was very surprised they didn’t add a playable hunter for Smash 3DS/WiiU, especially considering that the new MH games at the time (3U, 4U, and I think Generations) were exclusive to Nintendo systems. A Smash remix of Proof of a Hero is practically begging to be made too.
@@KidKatastrophe2314 plus they don't even have to make a new stage. The have one already and I honestly thought they were going to announce a hunter as a character when they showed it off.
As someone who has played all the shantae games except for seven sirens, and it was like a franchise that started bad and gradually got better
From Humble Beginnings to now.
I would disagree as IMO the third game is still leaps and bounds the best of the series.
I wouldn't say the first game was bad, the first game was good despite its flaws, plus I think Seven Sirens is slightly better than Pirate's Curse
@@JTDaddyProductions Are we talking critical or commercial success? Feels like we are mixing both right now in this comment section
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 I'm talking about the first game and my thoughts on it, as well as my opinion on what's the best Shantae game in the series.
"Wow! This sure is a bad year to do anything!"
*GeoExe and PuffballsUnited have entered the chat*
"In your ramblings, PuffballsUnited has cast a Distraction spell. Now, your body is contorting into a repetitive dance sequence that was already memed upon as it was, but now you're at the forefront of the second wave. You dance, and dance, until the wind and the sun eats your skin away, leaving behind your remains."
I'm surprised Pikmin 1 didn't get an honorable mention in this list, considering it had to share a release date with Melee.
I'd say Final Fantasy IX was a big one too. It was an outstanding game, but released after the PS2 already came out.
8:19 Yay. Dark Cloud 2 mention. Favorite game of all time. Does not get enough mention.
Another great RPG that got swept aside due to the Final Fantasy train would be Suikoden II that came out about a month before Final Fantasy VII.
And of the two, Suikoden II is the better RPG. Though I'm sure I'd be shot for admitting it.
I think Kingdoms of Amalur had a promotion with Mass Effect 3. Where if you played the demo to completion you got bonuses in ME3. I think it was that game.
Top 5 studios that have only released 1 game
Shadow Hearts is the second game in the series, but if so few people remember Shadow Hearts almost no one is going to remember Koudelka.
11:04 That's true for every year except 2020. We've already had like 100 weeks of 2020 and it feels like we have 52 more to go.
A idea for a list video. 5 games that ALMOST came out at the wrong time. Watch Dogs almost came out at the same time as GTA V. Imagine where Watch Dogs could've been if it did release then. Especially after GTA Online's first months.
Hat in Time, it released the same month as Mario Odyssey and got overshadowed
Titanfall 2 has got to be up here, surely
YEP
Top five flash games that became full releases.
PEDRO
Does Henry Stickman count?
@@alijahaskew4644 sure
The Xenosaga trilogy got overshadowed by other games during each release. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has two dlc’s that has two characters from Xenosaga as playable summons, so at least Monolith Soft didn’t forget the games existed (can’t say the same for Sega and Capcom).
Perhaps a future video on top 5/10 unique races/species in a game?
and here im wondering where does Horizon zero down release's go... i mean the game did really well considering it came out next to zelda
I still have all three shadow hearts but to he fair the third is a giant stinky pile, still play the first two though.
in a similar vain, the movie super was looked at as a kickass rip-off because it released not long after with a similar idea, but super actually started production first
The Shadow Hearts series could have been so far, but at least we've had 3 great games out of them. Apparently, the creator is considering a kickstarter project akin to Eiyuden Chronicles. Something to look out for!
Thank you for not forgetting about Shadow Hearts :)
8:26 I see what you did there... The steam port of the PSVita remake of the PS2 JRPG...
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning has that subtitle that makes it sound like a sequel, but, I haven't ever heard of a previous KoA game.
And it's a weird case. I played it, I enjoyed it, I set it down because it was long and I had other things in life, and I never picked it back up. And hereabouts these days, I don't think it holds up as well as newer games.
Somehow, it always feels weird to me when people bring it up, because for years, I swore I was like the only person who knew about the game.
The devs apparently had plans to make more games based on the franchise, but those failed when the game failed to make a profit. Apparently the idea was to preemptively avoid confusion about which game in the series it was. Which... until this year... was a non-issue.
Split/Second and Blur should've been included here: Both unique cult-classic racing games that came at the same time and ended up killing both their studios...
Wasn't Blur a Disney Interactive game?
EDIT: Apparently it was Activision.
Dishonorable Mention: Sonic Forces
That game came out a week after Super Mario Odyssey was released, which *really* hurt the sales of Sonic Forces (especially in Japan) due to Odyssey getting all the attention. Then again it was Sega's own fault for marketing the game so badly & releasing the game so close to the release of a highly anticipated game.
Bubsy was even worse. Literally the week between Mario and Sonic
I think the original Metal Gear for MSX is a contender... Not that it should be on this list but yeah.
I was today years old when I found out rabbid releases a video every Sunday.
I'm like, 99+% sure that EA released Titanfall 2 when it did in a deliberate attempt to make it fail, forcing Respawn to sell their studio to EA, thereby getting rid of an extremely competent potential future competitor and get an extremely competent studio in their own pocket.
I don't think EA is that intelligent tbh. If they thought of it, they might've done that on purpose, but I don't think they did.
They're just trend following cowards that wanted all their holiday video game money because that's when the most money is spent on games, so they did a dumb thing because they are stupid.
I'm pretty sure Kingdoms of Amalur failed because of the lack of marketing that it had, but with Skyrim being part of it, it made it failed harder
Top 5 Cooking/Serving Games
Wait Shantae is that old? Jebus
Top 5 Games That Constantly Reward You For Playing Them (A franchise can count as one entry if they all do it consistently)
Oh dammit I just thought of a potential entry for this list, at least an honorable mention:
Fire Embelm Fates and Project X Zone 2. One can assume which one sold better than the other, which is funny considering Chrom & Lucina are in both games.
I wonder if RL does those "pause. End line" sentences he does on video but IRL
I watch this list and honestly it just reminds me of when Fire Emblem Warriors came out. Not only did freaking Mario Odyssey come out just a week later, but Nintendo had also just announced hyrule warriors definitive edition on the switch, and all theses decisions were made by the same company, its not even like they released it at the same time as another company's game, they just decided they wanted to absolutely canibalize any hopes that game had of selling, which made me rather sad tbh, i was rather excited for the game and had a deluxe edition preordered and then they just made it feel not worth even having.
I would have been surprised if Battle born wasn’t no 1.
The second I saw the title of this video I knew I'd see Titanfall 2. It STILL hurts to this day, because I absolutely loved that game!
Poor Shantae, such amazing platformers
Great video. Haven’t play many on the list, but I have played the original Shantae trilogy. Pretty good, aside from the first one.
FINALLY a mention of Shadow Hearts!
Prince of Persia Sands of Time on the PS2 released on November 2003 was the biggest mistake by Ubisoft.
There was way too many games released during that month of that year on the PS2 and the original XBox, even Nintendo had some notable releases on the Nintendo Gamecube.
Rabbid Luigi has the best transitions. I wonder how he picks the clip in the background.
I just want to know one thing...
What is the name of that sweet transition music? My eardrums are thankful of my Anker Soundcore headphones right now!
Wasn't Skies of Arcadia also released the same time as Final Fantasy X?
Can someone please tell me what game the footage in the transitions is from?
So here I was thinking no way Shadow Hearts was getting mentioned and then number 3 happened.
I found a demo for Kingdoms of Amalor on the PS3 and got REALLY into it. Heck, I thought it was better than Skyrim because I thought it looked better.
I highly expected to see Titanfall 2 and Battleborn on this list, but not Shantae GBC. Instead I was thinking of Shantae and the Seven Sirens, since I barely even heard about it when it first launched, and I feel like releasing on the same day as a remake of a beloved, 10-year old RPG might’ve contributed to that.