Gotta say man, this is one of the best reviews I’ve seen. Concise, encompassing, funny without constant segues or non sequiturs. Covered everything I wanted to know and didn’t have that thinly-veiled advertising veneer a lot of reviews tend to have. Keep it up.
@@BrandonBerry-o8y Heyy Brandon! Really sorry about the tardyness in my response. Last few days were crazy. I am really really glad to hear that you enjoyed my content. It really does mean alot and keeps me motivated to continue to invest in this channel. Hope I can keep this up and keep bringing you guys content you like. Cheers man. Hope you have a great rest of the day!
Haha, in this case, I believe ALOT of people would be at fault. 9000 CAD is just a stupid amount of money for a laptop. you could get a maxed out Razer Blade 18 for that for way less than that. But anyway, even discounted, plenty of good options for a 4090 laptop :)
Binged your videos after watching this and gotta say you have a unique and authentic flair when it comes to the tech review space. Hope that doesn’t change when your channel blows up. One question tho, how is the battery life on your spec when just doing light tasks?
@@rezavaziri6900 Heyy Reza thank you so much for the kind words. Glad that you enjoyed my content. And dont worry, I am faaaaaaar from any kind of blow up. My regular job and life just keeps me so busy that I have been struggling alot to find time for this. But yeah it would be awesome if I could do tech reviews for a living. Hehe.. But to answer your question. I no longer have the device with me but I did save the standatd battery logs. It seems that I was averaging a little less than 3 hours on mixed use. And this would be on full sreen brightness and perfomance mode with hybrid graphics selected. And usually during those times, there would be alot of hdd writing activities because id be downloading and deleting huge games. I should have done my standard battery test here but somehow it missed the script. :/ Btw, your interest in the P1.. is there a specific use case for which you were eyeing the P1?.. btw the gen 7 is out and if you use a discount affiliation like Venngo or Perkopolis you could score pretty big discounts on it as well.
@@kazmiee you would be surprised my friend. I’ve watched quite a few channels get from your level to the millions of subscribers with a few dedicated months of quality regular content. I like to think the algorithm only recommends real one’s who got the “it” factor haha. It seems like the 1-9k sub mark is a critical threshold. I actually just received my 4090 p1 a few days ago and was just curious to compare battery life. I share your experience/opinions on most other things (~15.5k timespy, enjoying the screen, nice sleeper build, etc.). I got roughly 6-7 hours doing normal tasks throughout the day and at school so it’s perfect for my use case. I actually wanted the gen 6 specifically bc it seems to be the last of the “old” guard thinkpads. Still have physical buttons instead of haptic trackpad, a nice beefy 165hz ips display instead of oled, and a PHAT 4090 in an understated package. I got a nice deal on ebay on a brand new gen 6 from an authorized reseller and honestly am really happy with it so far. Besides some minor trackpoint drift occasionally, the machine doesn’t skip a beat.
Loved the review! And the slapstick comedy! But it is 2024 and I clicked on the link thinking this is the latest P1 Gen 7. And you also missed to talk about battery life which is a crucial element to laptop reviews. Nonetheless dropped you a like simply for effort. 👍🏽
haha thanks Imran! Glad you enjoyed my content. I should probably specify in the title that it is Gen 6 ; thank you for dropping me that like and for the feedback! will try to keep improving my content. :)
I agree with the other comments you've gotten about specifying in the title that this is the Gen 6 not 7. One thing with the video, you have two 'Thermals' chapters.
I wish lenovo would just focus on making A good product rather than just many products consumers get to choose from. It makes the product selection much simpler to customers, and also they can optimise that one product to a point where it smokes its competition for brand value, and scale of manufacturing which allows lenovo to make that product cheaper in the first place. I still cant forget what they did to the legion 7 lineup from 2022. They were the best gaming laptops Period. But then next year, they had to remove some of its premium features, but keep the same performance and then later introduce a much more premium version , the legion 9i, which then necessitated separate manufacturing, and new materials, just to justify its ridiculous price tag, while the legion 7 still continues to offer value for money performance, just with fewer features compared to last gen. And with the thinkpad series, its even worse, with many different thinkpad laptops with different names at the end of its name, which makes them difficult to recommend a model to relatives wanting a business laptop, and not to mention the introduction of thinkbook series, which is just legion slim 7 just without the gaming features but same price tag. It seems all of the tech companies decided to gouge out customers with small nice to have features and offer not much better value better to price, which makes the entire market even more confusing than it already is, and thats why I think Macbooks are selling well because of their simplified product categorisation, even though they are overpriced and not user upgradeable!
Oh man you said it! I absolutely hated how they gutted the Legion 7 after the Gen 7 - Things were looking real good at that time especially since we had separate versions for Intel/Nvidia and Radeon/Ryzen. The Gen7 was just such a masterpiece. It literally covered all the bases. They just wanted to jack up the prices is all; which is why the Legion 9 came into view; Sure, we get a LITTLE more firepower with better thermals including a third fan and top side intakes (and a gimmicky water cooling solution) but they just charged wayyy too much man. I dont know if you got a chance to watch another video of mine but I think I ranted over the same things there: ruclips.net/video/D7-NFoRF5Xc/видео.htmlfeature=shared - check it out if you can Having soo many options to chose from is definitely a bit confusing for the consumers out there. And its probably only going to get worse down the line though. I am actually looking forward to reviewing the new legion 7.. not the PRO version; feels like it was a step towards the Gen 7 design (without the RGB though) _ I just cant seem to find it in white in my region as yet; hope I find one soon and share my review of it with you all :)
@@kazmiee Already seen that video, been watching you for over a year now man!🙌🏽 And yeah, I think this year’s legion 7 is actually great, with a slim design and great thermals, just like how it used to be with the 2021 legion 7. I wish they bought the AMD advantage versions back, although AMD themselves arent doing a great job in shipping those chips and marketing. I am looking forward to AMD strix Halo gaming laptops from lenovo with the same form factor as the 2023 legion slim 7, although with upgradeable internals. I hope they don’t mess this up and release a separate product category, and just make A good gaming laptop. Lenovo is in the right direction with their legion 7 lineup, hope they dont screw this the next year, just so they can upcharge for a higher tier model, or remove features to justify the possibility of increased gpu and cpu prices next year…. Also possible Video Idea, can you talk about AMD strix halo, and what it means for the future of gaming laptop form factors in the future. I am especially concerned about the possibility of no user upgradeable ram just so you can get faster speeds from lpddr5x memory. Hope they don’t do that.
haha. I really appreciate that. Thank you for the kind words. Glad you liked my work. The upcoming Gen 7 P1 would probably be one of the first laptops to sport LPCAMM2 memory - I suppose the P1 still has a future in the thinkpad lineup. These guys need to freshen up the Vantage software for it though
Thank you Maroc! I guess I probably wont get alot of views on this, I feel the P1 is not a very popular device. Hehe. I am currently testing out the Legion 7i 2024.. will probably be comparing it to the new G16 as well.
Thank you for your comment gamer dad. I guess it is better to be underrated than overrated eh? Personally I have a long long way to go. I just want to make the world a better place by having more pc gamers around :) I always get so fascinated by how a laptop can be a portal to countless worlds and amazing stories to experience. That experience and video games overall, I believe..are underrated :)
Love this video, glad i found you. I myself own a t470s and had a ton of trouble with it, motherboard failure, wireless problems, the hinge breaking off the screen, i dont know, might not get a thinkpad again. I have to work with them at work, and well the newer TS series are pretty good, def better than hp.
Hi Andreas. Really really glad to hear you enjoyed my content. I have T14s with the 13th gen intel from work. It... well.. it.. does the job. Hehe..wish we would have 16 inch models but oh well. The thermal throttling on the P1 was a bit dissapointing but yeah thinkpads will continue to be icons of productivity. I had the t480 in my previous job.
@@kazmiee at my desk i got the t14 gen 1, good keyboard, screen, battery but the build quality leaves much to be desired. the company i work at is now switching to hp, while they are sometimes sturdier, but the hinges are awful, they break super easily. i like thinkpads too, so boring i can actually focus.
Really? Feels like it would be quite a challenge to have 2 sodimms and 2 pcie slots and a 4090 with a vapor chamber.. but if you have it in your region, that is pretty awesome.
Only for the lower GPUs. 4070 for example. You don't get the vapor chamber, only the copper sink. I really think that a 4090 is overkill with no real benefits. The sweet spot is a 4070 with 2 M.2 slots and a 1440p display for games and productivity.
@@marcusdumitru 4090 is overkill with no real benefit for sure, you can never properly cool it and get all performance out of it. Nevertheless, Im in central Europe and I was able to configure it with a 4090 and 2 SSDs.
@@Burbananathat’s so bizarre that they didnt offer this spec in the americas. Are there any down sides to having the second ssd slot w 4090? Do you still get the vapor chamber and liquid metal?
You are quite eagle eyed eh? Yeah I have been meaning to put out a review for it but keep getting sidetracked with work. It can actually become quite noisy at full chat. I'd say louder than a desktop even at load, but I guess it does kind of work; what do you like about the Llano cooling pad?
@@kazmiee Yeah, it’s quite loud. I love the fact that it diminishes thermal throttling and significantly increases performance (I’ve done some benchmarks, and the improvement was substantial). I tried to undervolt my P1 (like I did with my X1 Extreme), but it’s now locked by the manufacturer after the Plundervolt vulnerability (CVE-2019-11157). So yeah, it’s a little workaround-a loud one-but it gets the job done😅
Hey there. I most definitely mentioned that.. around the 7.10 and onwards mark. THAT.. plus the thermal throttling..both i believe in mentioned. Let me know of there is any specific detail I should mention in the future. Thank you! :)
@technic Ali - dedicated mode mux switch works in bIOS only if u use LENOVO drivers for nvidia 4090, u have to DDU uninstall all nvidia drivers first before isntalling lenovo provided 4090 driver from website, kinda lame but alteast i get a few % better perf
Thanks for sharing aditya; I no longer have the P1 on hand to experience that but good advice. I usually just use the Geforce experience utility to upgrade drivers. I wonder if the Lenovo drivers also provide updates in line with Nvidias official driver releases
thats weird... you didn't need lenovo drivers for x1 extreme gen 5 which was predecessor to this and p1 g6. regular drivers still allow you to use mux switch.
Especially their warranty / post sales servicing - it has been getting a lot of bad press; I also was victim to that with the Zenbook Pro 16x. These guys are producing so many SKUs; operations must be crazy complex to deal with quality issues
Gotta say man, this is one of the best reviews I’ve seen. Concise, encompassing, funny without constant segues or non sequiturs. Covered everything I wanted to know and didn’t have that thinly-veiled advertising veneer a lot of reviews tend to have. Keep it up.
@@BrandonBerry-o8y Heyy Brandon! Really sorry about the tardyness in my response. Last few days were crazy. I am really really glad to hear that you enjoyed my content. It really does mean alot and keeps me motivated to continue to invest in this channel. Hope I can keep this up and keep bringing you guys content you like. Cheers man. Hope you have a great rest of the day!
YES, it is too expensive, but it's my fault, I didn't have enough money....
Haha, in this case, I believe ALOT of people would be at fault. 9000 CAD is just a stupid amount of money for a laptop. you could get a maxed out Razer Blade 18 for that for way less than that. But anyway, even discounted, plenty of good options for a 4090 laptop :)
Binged your videos after watching this and gotta say you have a unique and authentic flair when it comes to the tech review space. Hope that doesn’t change when your channel blows up.
One question tho, how is the battery life on your spec when just doing light tasks?
@@rezavaziri6900 Heyy Reza thank you so much for the kind words. Glad that you enjoyed my content. And dont worry, I am faaaaaaar from any kind of blow up. My regular job and life just keeps me so busy that I have been struggling alot to find time for this. But yeah it would be awesome if I could do tech reviews for a living. Hehe..
But to answer your question. I no longer have the device with me but I did save the standatd battery logs. It seems that I was averaging a little less than 3 hours on mixed use. And this would be on full sreen brightness and perfomance mode with hybrid graphics selected. And usually during those times, there would be alot of hdd writing activities because id be downloading and deleting huge games. I should have done my standard battery test here but somehow it missed the script. :/
Btw, your interest in the P1.. is there a specific use case for which you were eyeing the P1?.. btw the gen 7 is out and if you use a discount affiliation like Venngo or Perkopolis you could score pretty big discounts on it as well.
@@kazmiee you would be surprised my friend. I’ve watched quite a few channels get from your level to the millions of subscribers with a few dedicated months of quality regular content. I like to think the algorithm only recommends real one’s who got the “it” factor haha. It seems like the 1-9k sub mark is a critical threshold.
I actually just received my 4090 p1 a few days ago and was just curious to compare battery life. I share your experience/opinions on most other things (~15.5k timespy, enjoying the screen, nice sleeper build, etc.). I got roughly 6-7 hours doing normal tasks throughout the day and at school so it’s perfect for my use case.
I actually wanted the gen 6 specifically bc it seems to be the last of the “old” guard thinkpads. Still have physical buttons instead of haptic trackpad, a nice beefy 165hz ips display instead of oled, and a PHAT 4090 in an understated package. I got a nice deal on ebay on a brand new gen 6 from an authorized reseller and honestly am really happy with it so far. Besides some minor trackpoint drift occasionally, the machine doesn’t skip a beat.
Loved the review! And the slapstick comedy! But it is 2024 and I clicked on the link thinking this is the latest P1 Gen 7. And you also missed to talk about battery life which is a crucial element to laptop reviews. Nonetheless dropped you a like simply for effort. 👍🏽
haha thanks Imran! Glad you enjoyed my content. I should probably specify in the title that it is Gen 6 ; thank you for dropping me that like and for the feedback! will try to keep improving my content. :)
How has your experience with the battery life been? I've only seen reviews with the 4k OLED screen.
i got between 3.5 to 4 hours
I agree with the other comments you've gotten about specifying in the title that this is the Gen 6 not 7. One thing with the video, you have two 'Thermals' chapters.
If I had 10 laptops I think I would also just have them in my living room and admire them
I wish lenovo would just focus on making A good product rather than just many products consumers get to choose from. It makes the product selection much simpler to customers, and also they can optimise that one product to a point where it smokes its competition for brand value, and scale of manufacturing which allows lenovo to make that product cheaper in the first place.
I still cant forget what they did to the legion 7 lineup from 2022. They were the best gaming laptops Period. But then next year, they had to remove some of its premium features, but keep the same performance and then later introduce a much more premium version , the legion 9i, which then necessitated separate manufacturing, and new materials, just to justify its ridiculous price tag, while the legion 7 still continues to offer value for money performance, just with fewer features compared to last gen.
And with the thinkpad series, its even worse, with many different thinkpad laptops with different names at the end of its name, which makes them difficult to recommend a model to relatives wanting a business laptop, and not to mention the introduction of thinkbook series, which is just legion slim 7 just without the gaming features but same price tag.
It seems all of the tech companies decided to gouge out customers with small nice to have features and offer not much better value better to price, which makes the entire market even more confusing than it already is, and thats why I think Macbooks are selling well because of their simplified product categorisation, even though they are overpriced and not user upgradeable!
Oh man you said it! I absolutely hated how they gutted the Legion 7 after the Gen 7 - Things were looking real good at that time especially since we had separate versions for Intel/Nvidia and Radeon/Ryzen. The Gen7 was just such a masterpiece. It literally covered all the bases. They just wanted to jack up the prices is all; which is why the Legion 9 came into view; Sure, we get a LITTLE more firepower with better thermals including a third fan and top side intakes (and a gimmicky water cooling solution) but they just charged wayyy too much man.
I dont know if you got a chance to watch another video of mine but I think I ranted over the same things there: ruclips.net/video/D7-NFoRF5Xc/видео.htmlfeature=shared - check it out if you can
Having soo many options to chose from is definitely a bit confusing for the consumers out there. And its probably only going to get worse down the line though. I am actually looking forward to reviewing the new legion 7.. not the PRO version; feels like it was a step towards the Gen 7 design (without the RGB though) _ I just cant seem to find it in white in my region as yet; hope I find one soon and share my review of it with you all :)
@@kazmiee Already seen that video, been watching you for over a year now man!🙌🏽
And yeah, I think this year’s legion 7 is actually great, with a slim design and great thermals, just like how it used to be with the 2021 legion 7. I wish they bought the AMD advantage versions back, although AMD themselves arent doing a great job in shipping those chips and marketing.
I am looking forward to AMD strix Halo gaming laptops from lenovo with the same form factor as the 2023 legion slim 7, although with upgradeable internals. I hope they don’t mess this up and release a separate product category, and just make A good gaming laptop. Lenovo is in the right direction with their legion 7 lineup, hope they dont screw this the next year, just so they can upcharge for a higher tier model, or remove features to justify the possibility of increased gpu and cpu prices next year….
Also possible Video Idea, can you talk about AMD strix halo, and what it means for the future of gaming laptop form factors in the future. I am especially concerned about the possibility of no user upgradeable ram just so you can get faster speeds from lpddr5x memory. Hope they don’t do that.
I logged in to the damn RUclips to give you a like! Great job. ThinkPad forever
haha. I really appreciate that. Thank you for the kind words. Glad you liked my work. The upcoming Gen 7 P1 would probably be one of the first laptops to sport LPCAMM2 memory - I suppose the P1 still has a future in the thinkpad lineup. These guys need to freshen up the Vantage software for it though
Splendid video mate. Well done.
Thank you Maroc! I guess I probably wont get alot of views on this, I feel the P1 is not a very popular device. Hehe. I am currently testing out the Legion 7i 2024.. will probably be comparing it to the new G16 as well.
Man its a gem, it will be a collectors item some day@@kazmiee
Such an underrated channel.
Thank you for your comment gamer dad. I guess it is better to be underrated than overrated eh? Personally I have a long long way to go. I just want to make the world a better place by having more pc gamers around :) I always get so fascinated by how a laptop can be a portal to countless worlds and amazing stories to experience. That experience and video games overall, I believe..are underrated :)
Love this video, glad i found you. I myself own a t470s and had a ton of trouble with it, motherboard failure, wireless problems, the hinge breaking off the screen, i dont know, might not get a thinkpad again. I have to work with them at work, and well the newer TS series are pretty good, def better than hp.
Hi Andreas. Really really glad to hear you enjoyed my content. I have T14s with the 13th gen intel from work. It... well.. it.. does the job. Hehe..wish we would have 16 inch models but oh well. The thermal throttling on the P1 was a bit dissapointing but yeah thinkpads will continue to be icons of productivity. I had the t480 in my previous job.
@@kazmiee at my desk i got the t14 gen 1, good keyboard, screen, battery but the build quality leaves much to be desired. the company i work at is now switching to hp, while they are sometimes sturdier, but the hinges are awful, they break super easily. i like thinkpads too, so boring i can actually focus.
over here it says this has 2 slots for an ssd, and you can configure it with 2 SSDs and a 4090
Really? Feels like it would be quite a challenge to have 2 sodimms and 2 pcie slots and a 4090 with a vapor chamber.. but if you have it in your region, that is pretty awesome.
Only for the lower GPUs. 4070 for example. You don't get the vapor chamber, only the copper sink.
I really think that a 4090 is overkill with no real benefits. The sweet spot is a 4070 with 2 M.2 slots and a 1440p display for games and productivity.
@@marcusdumitru 100% agreed. :)
@@marcusdumitru 4090 is overkill with no real benefit for sure, you can never properly cool it and get all performance out of it. Nevertheless, Im in central Europe and I was able to configure it with a 4090 and 2 SSDs.
@@Burbananathat’s so bizarre that they didnt offer this spec in the americas. Are there any down sides to having the second ssd slot w 4090? Do you still get the vapor chamber and liquid metal?
I also have the same laptop and llano cooling pad😅 my only complaint is the noise
You are quite eagle eyed eh? Yeah I have been meaning to put out a review for it but keep getting sidetracked with work. It can actually become quite noisy at full chat. I'd say louder than a desktop even at load, but I guess it does kind of work; what do you like about the Llano cooling pad?
@@kazmiee Yeah, it’s quite loud.
I love the fact that it diminishes thermal throttling and significantly increases performance (I’ve done some benchmarks, and the improvement was substantial).
I tried to undervolt my P1 (like I did with my X1 Extreme), but it’s now locked by the manufacturer after the Plundervolt vulnerability (CVE-2019-11157).
So yeah, it’s a little workaround-a loud one-but it gets the job done😅
Love your review 🫶
Aww thanks Xuan Tan. Grateful for your encourgement. Hope I can continue to bring out content that you like :)
The 4090 is not so reasonable. You fail to mention it's severely underclocked at 80 watts :(
Hey there. I most definitely mentioned that.. around the 7.10 and onwards mark. THAT.. plus the thermal throttling..both i believe in mentioned. Let me know of there is any specific detail I should mention in the future. Thank you! :)
@technic Ali - dedicated mode mux switch works in bIOS only if u use LENOVO drivers for nvidia 4090, u have to DDU uninstall all nvidia drivers first before isntalling lenovo provided 4090 driver from website, kinda lame but alteast i get a few % better perf
Thanks for sharing aditya; I no longer have the P1 on hand to experience that but good advice. I usually just use the Geforce experience utility to upgrade drivers. I wonder if the Lenovo drivers also provide updates in line with Nvidias official driver releases
thats weird... you didn't need lenovo drivers for x1 extreme gen 5 which was predecessor to this and p1 g6. regular drivers still allow you to use mux switch.
great video
Hey Thanks Prajwal. Glad you enjoyed it. :)
Ha! Good stuff. You’re a funny dude.
heyy Vincent. Thank youu! Glad you liked my content. :)
And yes, Asus is poop
Especially their warranty / post sales servicing - it has been getting a lot of bad press; I also was victim to that with the Zenbook Pro 16x. These guys are producing so many SKUs; operations must be crazy complex to deal with quality issues