Olenna Tyrell is hands down my favorite character in ASOIAF. She is snarky, hilarious, strong, and has the absolute keenest mind on Planetos. LOVE her. I'd watch a spin-off or read a whole book series about her life, past or future.
+Lynaya Hernandez I love that woman!! I wish Brienne of Tarth would pledge herself to Olenna's service. And why (in the show, not the books) did she not ASK Arya Stark if she'd prefer to remain with the Hound or be returned to her now-dead mother? Just what WAS she going to do with that orphaned child? There was nobody to return her TO, no place where she'd be safe and welcomed. I like Brienne; she has the best of intentions but doesn't plan ahead, just blunders on, swinging that sword and getting herself and others into more and more trouble. She would have made a terrific partner for Sandor Clegane, however -- the unstoppable duo!
+Kris Aaron I think she would've taken Arya to castle black, no one knows Jon is dead yet (I know he wasn't dead yet but probably would've been by the time they got there) or one of the houses of the North, one of them who are fiercely loyal to the Starks. Which I think is most of them!
I agree fully. The Queen of Thorns really is one of the best fictional characters ever conceived. And Diana Rigg's characterization is pure poetry: the way she speaks, her attitude, her tenacity. I totally get it.
Stannis never respected House Tyrell, specially because he knew it was Olenna the real ruler of the Reach. Also, its very stablished in the books that Loras and Margaery suspected of him being responsible for Renly's death. So, that would never work well. Maybe Olenna coul've allied her House to Robb Stark, asking him to marry Margaery. In that case, i doubt the Freys wouldve had the courage to kill them, because of the Reache's power.
My hood is off to Olenna. They don't call her Queen of Thorns for nothing as she's being a real thorn in the Lannisters' sides. I hated Joffrey anyway. Every rose has its thorn. That should be House Tyrell's secondary slogan.
@@liamjohnston5099 you look at short term battle vs long term war. Aside from the bad writing of the TV since season 7, since that time between her and tywin, tyrells successfully won many fights to split up the lannister.
PowerLord83, mostly because his family knew that he wasn't interested in women, so they wanted to marry her off to his older brother. In the show, they wanted a marriage between Sansa and Loras, but that was because the show cut the extraneous characters like Willis out to make more time for focus characters.
What I find the funniest is that she was the Queen of Thorns but no one dared call her that to her face expect Cersei and she paid the price for it with her pride
I love Olenna's character! Though I'm still surprised at how much love she gets from this video's commenters, given how her plans affected everyone's favorite Lannister.
That arrest made Rob call the banners and move to Kingslanding, unless u meant it for them to be a card to insure Ned not talking about the children then yeah that's a good move.
napolien 1 while the arrest backfired a bit it made sense. Who would believe the lies of a traitor? Unlucky for Cersei he had warned Stannis beforehand, starting what should have been the battle lf the 3 kings into the battle of the 5 kings
Wrong. Her arrest led to his death because she cannot foresee how her badly behaved son would go against her wishes. She's his mom. She knows he's insane. And yet took that dangerous step.
man, i really really like this content. Ive watched all of them lol. Keep up the great work guys. Also I would really love to see a video on Ned Stark (There may allready be one but i couldnt find it) Peace!
+Rei Sarmiento Plus , on the show, Tywin had threatened to make Loras a member of the Kingsguard if Olenna refused to go along with marrying him to Cersei and Sansa to Tyrion. As Loras's two older brothers weren't characters on the TV series, this would not be a very good thing for the Tyrells. In the books, though, Loras was named to the Kingsguard immediately after the Battle of the Blackwater.
It was such a fuck up for Stannis to kill Renly, they should have agreed to both fight to keep the Baratheons in power and later sort out their differences, through trial by combat or something, after they'd won.
I love Olenna Tyrell in the books. She isn’t as good in the show but her japes are also a little funny in the books too. I don’t even hate her for ghosting Sansa that much when she wasn’t of any use because it’s kinda in her character to do so. I prefer a sassy Olenna than a pitiful one. I just hope she will appear more in the future books because so far, she has only made a couple minor appearances. She really is the Queen of Thorns.
I feel like the whole plot point of hiding the posion in Jewelry was unnecessarily unpredictable. No one would search a high lady, so why couldnt Olena have just kept it on her person? The real answer is the plot is more interesting this way, but that kinda makes it worse from a logic standpoint.
Doctor Van Nostrand is the first person who suggests Lady Oleanna was the mystery woman Maester Aemon loved and lost. I've suspected that, as well. Chronologically, I'm not sure it could have happened, as Aemon was well into his 90s when he died and Oleanna is in her 70s. He left for the Wall as a relatively young man and spent the rest of his life there, so she would have had to be very young when she knew him. Still... it's possible. But probable? Would she have turned him down, intent on a position of power he had no intention of providing? Were they separated by relatives with Other Plans for their future? Maester Aemon SHOULD have been king of Westeros, but refused the throne. Why? Did it have anything to do with Lady Oleanna? She's my favorite ASOIF character, and I'd love to know more about her backstory. CivilizationEx, what say you? Can we look forward to another video on this great lady?
+Kris Aaron that is show version they screw the time line by cut out Jaenerys II's reign and Aemon Targaryen Kids on show. In the show they made Areys II (the Mad King) Targaryen the son of Aegon Targaryen not his grandson.
+Sophia Wilson Damn, do they EVER screw with the time line! On the show, it's not only possible but probable that Maester Aemon's true love was Lady Oleanna. She didn't do a Jerry Hall on him, so points to Oleanna for being a lady of honor instead of blatently after Targaryen power and gold (I'm being a bitch; apologies all around).
Kris Aaron in show Oleanna there was a Targaryen that her parents marry. but she did not wanted him which Targaryen is it then if Aegon only have one kid? (Aerys)
Okay, now I'm really confused. Please let me know which book discussed her connection with Daeron Targaryen. The show has mixed up Oleanna's time frame (and many others), but I know she decided one of the Tyrells was a better marriage prospect than a Targaryen. Wasn't Daeron the uncle of Aerys, the Mad King?
Willas was mentioned to be the only male of House Tyrell to heir his grandma's wit. A shame his character didnt make to the show. One of the worst changes, as George R.R. Martin said himself. The eldest son of House Tyrell is known to be very wise and admired for many. By being injuried by Oberyn Martell in a tourney, he became lame. However, his mind's really sharp, and he never holded a grudge against Oberyn, being in touch with him trough ravens, untill his death.
Yes, and there are more members of the family in the books too. Mace and Alerie have 4 kids instead of 2. The two extra are named Willas and Garlan Tyrell, Loras and Margaery’s older brothers. Willas is the heir to Highgarden instead of Loras and Garlan is the Lord of Brightwater Keep currently and is married to a noble lady named Leonette Fossoway from Reach house, House Fossoway. Loras joins the Kingsguard after Renly’s death, not wanting to marry a woman because he thinks he will never love anyone again and Margaery still weds Renly, Joffrey, and Tommen like in the show. We also see Tyrell cousins named Elinor, Alla, and Megga who are Margaery’s ladies-in-waiting and are her closest companions. We also see Alerie Hightower in the books too.
Yeah, but the Targaryen she was married to was gay so the marriage wouldn’t have worked out for her. So she shrewdly married Luthor Tyrell from House Tyrell, which is a very rich great house so she still gained plenty of power. And she did say she genuinely loved husband dearly, even though she thought of him as an oaf and probably manipulated him a lot. So that marriage worked out way better than a Targaryen marriage for Olenna in the end.
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Olenna Tyrell is hands down my favorite character in ASOIAF. She is snarky, hilarious, strong, and has the absolute keenest mind on Planetos. LOVE her. I'd watch a spin-off or read a whole book series about her life, past or future.
+Lynaya Hernandez I love that woman!! I wish Brienne of Tarth would pledge herself to Olenna's service. And why (in the show, not the books) did she not ASK Arya Stark if she'd prefer to remain with the Hound or be returned to her now-dead mother? Just what WAS she going to do with that orphaned child? There was nobody to return her TO, no place where she'd be safe and welcomed. I like Brienne; she has the best of intentions but doesn't plan ahead, just blunders on, swinging that sword and getting herself and others into more and more trouble. She would have made a terrific partner for Sandor Clegane, however -- the unstoppable duo!
+Kris Aaron I think she would've taken Arya to castle black, no one knows Jon is dead yet (I know he wasn't dead yet but probably would've been by the time they got there) or one of the houses of the North, one of them who are fiercely loyal to the Starks. Which I think is most of them!
Olenna, Margaery, and Davos are my fav 3 characters
I agree fully. The Queen of Thorns really is one of the best fictional characters ever conceived. And Diana Rigg's characterization is pure poetry: the way she speaks, her attitude, her tenacity. I totally get it.
Lynaya Hernandez Lanisters 4 Tyrells 0😒
Should've allied with me. We would've made Westeros great again.
Stannis The Mannis Baratheon lol
Stannis never respected House Tyrell, specially because he knew it was Olenna the real ruler of the Reach. Also, its very stablished in the books that Loras and Margaery suspected of him being responsible for Renly's death. So, that would never work well. Maybe Olenna coul've allied her House to Robb Stark, asking him to marry Margaery. In that case, i doubt the Freys wouldve had the courage to kill them, because of the Reache's power.
LagiNaLangAko23 indeed. It would been a poor decision.
Stannis The Mannis Baratheon I got further than you in the game. Get out you menace.
Because she allied with me.
To liberate Westeros.
My hood is off to Olenna. They don't call her Queen of Thorns for nothing as she's being a real thorn in the Lannisters' sides. I hated Joffrey anyway. Every rose has its thorn. That should be House Tyrell's secondary slogan.
only olenna could match wits against tywin lannister. they were in a league of their own. she even outlive him tbh.
Nenra M. Tywin won😒
Brian Morales I think not.
@@phasmablaster1307 tywin did beat olenna he forced her into arranging a marriage between loras and cersei
@@warlordqueekheadtaker7960 he won a battle. Lost the war. Figuratively speaking. Tyrells split their family apart and tyrells stick together.
@@liamjohnston5099 you look at short term battle vs long term war. Aside from the bad writing of the TV since season 7, since that time between her and tywin, tyrells successfully won many fights to split up the lannister.
If anyone Wonder why it was not Loras who were gonna marry Sansa, was because Loras actually joiner Kings guard in the books while mouring Renly.
PowerLord83, mostly because his family knew that he wasn't interested in women, so they wanted to marry her off to his older brother. In the show, they wanted a marriage between Sansa and Loras, but that was because the show cut the extraneous characters like Willis out to make more time for focus characters.
@LagiNaLangAko23 no the Tyrells planed to make Loras in the king's guard to protect his sister it wasn't a plan from little finger.
@@EarlnEarl no not that it's because they planed to make Loras in the king's guard and it was a better match for their heir to highgarden.
Kingsguard members can't marry and swear an oath of celibacy.
The Queen of throwing shade
olenna for president
What I find the funniest is that she was the Queen of Thorns but no one dared call her that to her face expect Cersei and she paid the price for it with her pride
I wish we could get a prequel series and see the young Olenna Tyrell. She did say she was *very,very good* .
You should do this professionally with audio books. your voice has a nice smooth even tone that goes well with stories.
+Alexia Victory Thanks! :)
I love Olenna's character! Though I'm still surprised at how much love she gets from this video's commenters, given how her plans affected everyone's favorite Lannister.
Olenna is the best example of a strong female character that I’ve seen in the Game of Thrones series
This is a wonderful video & series. Gotta love the Queen of Thorns!
Glad you struck with book version not the show of Olenna Tyrell origin.
roses have thorns for a reason
Cersei is so stupid, she has so much power but doesn't know how to use it. Her only good move in the game of thrones was to arrest Ned Stark.
That arrest made Rob call the banners and move to Kingslanding, unless u meant it for them to be a card to insure Ned not talking about the children then yeah that's a good move.
She isn't as cunning as she thinks she is.
napolien 1 while the arrest backfired a bit it made sense. Who would believe the lies of a traitor? Unlucky for Cersei he had warned Stannis beforehand, starting what should have been the battle lf the 3 kings into the battle of the 5 kings
cersei's best move was blowing up the sept of baelor with all her adversities in it
Wrong. Her arrest led to his death because she cannot foresee how her badly behaved son would go against her wishes. She's his mom. She knows he's insane. And yet took that dangerous step.
Simply marvellous.
+Queen of Thorns xD
+Queen of Thorns Lel XD
Great video mate!
I really appreciate how you change the map!
I absolutely love , love you videos!! I could watch them for hours!! Please keep up the good work!
Great video, really hope to see more of her next season with the Tyrells heading back to kinglanding
She reminds me so much of my grandma
Awesome videos mate. Keep it up :D
Olenna's husband rode his horse off a cliff while hawking. Sure he did, Olenna (wink, wink).
Well i dont think she would push him...
It definitely wasn't her. She didn't respect him, but she did love him.
Great video, love the Tyrells
Love the Olenna character.
Got an interview tomorrow, your videos are keeping me calm. I never knew that GoT could be associated with calm.
Good luck! :)
Got through! Thanks!! :D
could you do one about dunk and egg?
+kwadwo baidoo Definitely will at some point.
+CivilizationEx lol you responded haha. thanks
+kwadwo baidoo would love to see that
Ricey same
+CivilizationEx Thanks babe ;)
Civ I love your videos so much they pump me up put me in a good mood thanks!!
Thanks LT! :)
I’m happy she’s still alive in the books
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Why did she wrap a big sheet around her head, she never showed her hair
She's not bald
Can you do a video on Dragonbinder/The Hell Horn?
Awesome!!
man, i really really like this content. Ive watched all of them lol. Keep up the great work guys. Also I would really love to see a video on Ned Stark (There may allready be one but i couldnt find it) Peace!
If only the starks and tyrells teamed up
Oh yes. They are my favorite houses too.
LOVE this !
I want her as my grandma
Olenna Tyrell is simply a baddie
Master of sass
Love Olenna Tyrell even though she didn't care for me.
True but she did love her family very deeply in the end. She always put them first.
I have to say the Show did almost all the Houses dirty, cuz they left key characters in the Book out of the Show
I love olenna
I can't donate but I would donate like 30 bucks because you have the hard work and dedication that needs to be rewarded
Watch my videos, subscribe, like and comment and that is plenty of help already. :)
Hey cool video man and I love your channel. But correction on the Willas part, Cersei was engaged to Loras, not Willas. Glad I could help :)
+Rei Sarmiento isnt it only on the show? i think in the books it was willas
It was Willas in the books
+Rei Sarmiento Willas in the book, Loras in the show.
+Rei Sarmiento Plus , on the show, Tywin had threatened to make Loras a member of the Kingsguard if Olenna refused to go along with marrying him to Cersei and Sansa to Tyrion. As Loras's two older brothers weren't characters on the TV series, this would not be a very good thing for the Tyrells. In the books, though, Loras was named to the Kingsguard immediately after the Battle of the Blackwater.
lol, the whole series in this channel is about the book,not the show. Margaery has three brothers, Willas, Gallen, and Loras.
I find your narration strangely nostalgic because you sound like you're the narrator of teletraan 2 files
Do one on the Tower of Joy!
+carlos chavez That's a good idea, I'll try to get that one done next month.
+CivilizationEx That would be so cool! Another amazing video By the Way
It was such a fuck up for Stannis to kill Renly, they should have agreed to both fight to keep the Baratheons in power and later sort out their differences, through trial by combat or something, after they'd won.
Sansa should have marry Olenna Tyrell's grandson the real heir of Highgargen. Willas Tyrell
I love Olenna Tyrell in the books. She isn’t as good in the show but her japes are also a little funny in the books too. I don’t even hate her for ghosting Sansa that much when she wasn’t of any use because it’s kinda in her character to do so. I prefer a sassy Olenna than a pitiful one. I just hope she will appear more in the future books because so far, she has only made a couple minor appearances. She really is the Queen of Thorns.
Im pretty sure her and willas will have a crucial role in the reach in WoW, especially in dealing with the threats from Euron and Aegon
Yo that gotta be the funniest concept from the show, who the hell rides their horse OFF a cliff
What is the name of that Game of Thrones theme hearing in the background? It sounds quite relaxing.
Ice and Fire by RFGB, link in the description
Many thanks :)
It says channel does not exist?
Bowman Daniel Sorry about that, here is the link ruclips.net/video/kthxycmF25M/видео.html
I feel like the whole plot point of hiding the posion in Jewelry was unnecessarily unpredictable. No one would search a high lady, so why couldnt Olena have just kept it on her person? The real answer is the plot is more interesting this way, but that kinda makes it worse from a logic standpoint.
It was to draw the blame away from herself and put it on Sansa and Tyrion, and besides, the more unpredictable the better!
R.I.P. Olenna :'(
Willas Tyrell
Doctor Van Nostrand is the first person who suggests Lady Oleanna was the mystery woman Maester Aemon loved and lost. I've suspected that, as well. Chronologically, I'm not sure it could have happened, as Aemon was well into his 90s when he died and Oleanna is in her 70s. He left for the Wall as a relatively young man and spent the rest of his life there, so she would have had to be very young when she knew him. Still... it's possible. But probable? Would she have turned him down, intent on a position of power he had no intention of providing? Were they separated by relatives with Other Plans for their future? Maester Aemon SHOULD have been king of Westeros, but refused the throne. Why? Did it have anything to do with Lady Oleanna? She's my favorite ASOIF character, and I'd love to know more about her backstory. CivilizationEx, what say you? Can we look forward to another video on this great lady?
+Kris Aaron that is show version they screw the time line by cut out Jaenerys II's reign and Aemon Targaryen Kids on show. In the show they made Areys II (the Mad King) Targaryen the son of Aegon Targaryen not his grandson.
+Sophia Wilson Damn, do they EVER screw with the time line! On the show, it's not only possible but probable that Maester Aemon's true love was Lady Oleanna. She didn't do a Jerry Hall on him, so points to Oleanna for being a lady of honor instead of blatently after Targaryen power and gold (I'm being a bitch; apologies all around).
Kris Aaron in show Oleanna there was a Targaryen that her parents marry. but she did not wanted him which Targaryen is it then if Aegon only have one kid? (Aerys)
In books she engage to marry Daeron Targaryen who youngest son of Aegon 5 Targaryen and Aerys (the Mad King) Aegon 5 grandson.
Okay, now I'm really confused. Please let me know which book discussed her connection with Daeron Targaryen. The show has mixed up Oleanna's time frame (and many others), but I know she decided one of the Tyrells was a better marriage prospect than a Targaryen. Wasn't Daeron the uncle of Aerys, the Mad King?
How was Mace friends with Renly Baratheon...
Didn't they lay siege on them during the Mad King's rebellion war?
Loras was fostered at storms end so they became friends (lovers) and mace listened to loras when he wanted to support him
Willas was mentioned to be the only male of House Tyrell to heir his grandma's wit. A shame his character didnt make to the show. One of the worst changes, as George R.R. Martin said himself. The eldest son of House Tyrell is known to be very wise and admired for many. By being injuried by Oberyn Martell in a tourney, he became lame. However, his mind's really sharp, and he never holded a grudge against Oberyn, being in touch with him trough ravens, untill his death.
They shared interest in breeding animals horses and hawks.
that iron throne xd
that's how g.r.r Martin imagined it.
Omg, how did I miss it? of course its lady Olenna who poisoned Joffery
There's no way Mace was behind Renly seeking the throne. Olenna clearly calls all the shots and designs all the grand plans.
She is not stupid to back the little brother to the throne.
So, in the book, lady olenna, loras, mace and margaery are still alive?
Yes they're alive, but Loras is badly burned and Margaery is under arrest.
And Loras is not "the future of Highgarden" but Wilas, who's the real heir.
Yes, and there are more members of the family in the books too. Mace and Alerie have 4 kids instead of 2. The two extra are named Willas and Garlan Tyrell, Loras and Margaery’s older brothers. Willas is the heir to Highgarden instead of Loras and Garlan is the Lord of Brightwater Keep currently and is married to a noble lady named Leonette Fossoway from Reach house, House Fossoway. Loras joins the Kingsguard after Renly’s death, not wanting to marry a woman because he thinks he will never love anyone again and Margaery still weds Renly, Joffrey, and Tommen like in the show. We also see Tyrell cousins named Elinor, Alla, and Megga who are Margaery’s ladies-in-waiting and are her closest companions. We also see Alerie Hightower in the books too.
Ollena dodged a bullet by not marrying the targeryan
Nah she wasn't going to die anyway.
Yeah, but the Targaryen she was married to was gay so the marriage wouldn’t have worked out for her. So she shrewdly married Luthor Tyrell from House Tyrell, which is a very rich great house so she still gained plenty of power. And she did say she genuinely loved husband dearly, even though she thought of him as an oaf and probably manipulated him a lot. So that marriage worked out way better than a Targaryen marriage for Olenna in the end.
This is by the book not by the show
What's your point?
So willis=loras right or am I wrong
you are wrong. Margaery has 3 brothers, Willas, Gallen, Loras.
Hey civ ex could you do the whole dance of dragons?
+Tom Zhackray I'm actually planning a vid about that at the beginning of next month. :)
I love game of thrones
But who is the mother of Margaery?
Lady Alerie Hightower
Might be different in the book, but the show used this character to do some major male bashing in the show. Didn't care for that
Why did they need the whole ser dontos plot?? Why not just carry the poison into the wedding and put it in the cup??
Because Sansa was needed to be involved in the plot so that she could be taken away by littlefinger.
In every GOT season house arryn was the most peacfull one. Lol
Don't forget they had internal strife with the Lords declarant and they participated in the battle of the bastards
Sansa is the most naive women in the seven kingdom I hope her stay with little finger make her a bit smarter.
Hers was the most subtle character development.
But why does she wear that hat? Is she bald?
No I think it's something to do with piety