The Lost POV of House Tyrell

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @LordofBroccoli
    @LordofBroccoli 6 лет назад +1754

    Come on, George... we're so desperate for new content we're going on archaeological expeditions to find lost POVs!

    • @RickRoyhd
      @RickRoyhd 6 лет назад +38

      Good one!

    • @C3metalthingies
      @C3metalthingies 6 лет назад +43

      It would be awesome if he would release edited out POV's in one big book as a filler for now

    • @spearshake4771
      @spearshake4771 6 лет назад +48

      Were so desperate our fan theories are getting wilder and wilder. It's getting so ridiculous that most of the characters parents may not be their real parents according to these wild theories

    • @jamomma7296
      @jamomma7296 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @blueblack3591
      @blueblack3591 2 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂

  • @flogiston2ify
    @flogiston2ify 6 лет назад +1452

    "Can you imagine how would Sweetrobin POV looks like?" Preston would love it

    • @Jooooger
      @Jooooger 6 лет назад +209

      Sweetrobin knows too much about the Children of the Forest's conspiracy to try to possess his body through his weirwood throne which is causing his seizures. GRAB THE TIN FOIL, THE CHILDREN ARE IN MY HEAD!

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 6 лет назад +48

      @@Jooooger
      You get a Children pov thrown in. Two for the price of one

    • @theanimationlads7598
      @theanimationlads7598 5 лет назад +7

      flogiston2ify I read this comment for the first time literally as he said that.

    • @BarryKennedy
      @BarryKennedy 5 лет назад +9

      Another settlement needs your help

    • @lonemotheo1964
      @lonemotheo1964 4 года назад +8

      He really would

  • @jon-umber
    @jon-umber 5 лет назад +176

    The Tyrells in general are the most interesting house that nobody seems to talk about. I find both Willas and Garlan to be fascinating characters (and potential foils for one another) and would love for them to have far more time on-screen. Even Mace is interesting in his own way, as a haughty buffoon.

  • @RopubaBillar27
    @RopubaBillar27 5 лет назад +639

    Imagine being the fan who started AGoT in 1996... So strong

    • @shawn6669
      @shawn6669 4 года назад +34

      I think I picked up my first copy of AGoT a couple of months after it came out. FWIW.

    • @irasac1
      @irasac1 4 года назад +11

      @@shawn6669 wow. How has it been?

    • @nurlindafsihotang49
      @nurlindafsihotang49 4 года назад +14

      ....mocking us now, little babe?
      ..nah, i resent myself to get trapped like this.

    • @tmfchickadee7785
      @tmfchickadee7785 4 года назад +31

      Imagine dying before you see the ending.

    • @alphagamer9505
      @alphagamer9505 4 года назад +5

      @@shawn6669 damm,I pick mine after s7,in the end of 2019

  • @ABLEARC
    @ABLEARC 6 лет назад +732

    For a dude with two videos this quality and content is solid. Nice to see some meta talk about the books instead of the tin foil conspiracies most channels do. Which I still love but this is great.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +65

      I appreciate the kind comments. As it goes on there is tinfoil but its more tinfoil speculation about stuff that doesn't happen or what might have happened in earlier drafts of ADWD. It takes awhile to get there though since I would rather make sure people know the facts for what they are and then scratch their head and consider possibilities, but not latch onto these things as proven paradigms.

    • @williamkrause5831
      @williamkrause5831 6 лет назад +16

      Hey hey hey, Preston might be a bit too tinfoily, but his videos are so insightful and entertaining.

    • @CodyTaylor115
      @CodyTaylor115 6 лет назад +3

      @@AdmiralKird I'm loving the in depth analysis of meta aspects of the books it's refreshing and I'm learning a lot about the process that was and is a song of ice and fire. I am a fresh reader only been around for 3 or so years so it's really cool to get some insights and experiences of those who had too wait sense book one

    • @michaelhenry3234
      @michaelhenry3234 6 лет назад +8

      @@AdmiralKird You only have 2 videos? Shit. I hope you continue! These are really high quality.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +13

      @@michaelhenry3234 Thanks Michael! I will be doing more, I've got a whole list of ideas that have built up over the years. I've never thought people would watch anything I did so I never made my own channel until events lead here and you guys are what inspire me to do more.

  • @prostufamiliei
    @prostufamiliei Год назад +66

    man i wish this dude wouldve continued to do asoiaf content, watched it 4 years and and again today, still enjoyable af

  • @coryholibaugh8124
    @coryholibaugh8124 3 года назад +134

    Margery Tyrell and the Blackfish should have gotten POVs.
    Blackfish during the war with Rob Stark and during the seige of Riverrun. Plus imagine him getting POV when he finds out about the Red Wedding.
    Margery during a Feast for Crows. Plenty of Jamie and Cersei in King's Landing chapters. Would have been cool to get a different perspective.

    • @Carlos-ln8fd
      @Carlos-ln8fd 3 года назад +1

      Yes 100 %

    • @garlantyrell6368
      @garlantyrell6368 2 года назад +6

      Maybe they will get POVs in the Winds of Winter, whenever that book comes out.

    • @skurinski
      @skurinski Год назад +2

      @@garlantyrell6368 George said no new POVs

    • @RobertP.Trebor
      @RobertP.Trebor 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@skurinski😢 no Hodor POV?

    • @MrMustache-yn4zm
      @MrMustache-yn4zm 5 месяцев назад

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      An excerpt

  • @jamesaudreypurdie8318
    @jamesaudreypurdie8318 6 лет назад +675

    Alayne is the POV character for house Arryn.

    • @vanessaamesty6739
      @vanessaamesty6739 6 лет назад +22

      true, but A Maestre POV in the Vale that old Maestre would be Cressen-like. Tho, George did that already

    • @monsouranda2822
      @monsouranda2822 6 лет назад +63

      More like house Baelish

    • @Zeupater
      @Zeupater 6 лет назад +40

      I agree... or at least as close as we’re likely to get for Arryn. Maybe it was a way to save space. She seems like a proxy for Petyr, Robin and Myranda POV chapters.

    • @muchanadziko6378
      @muchanadziko6378 Год назад +1

      well...but she's not an Arryn

  • @leftofyou
    @leftofyou 6 лет назад +416

    "One day, I'll make them all fly."
    -Lord Robin Arryn

    • @doconnell565
      @doconnell565 6 лет назад +37

      Robert Arryn. Robert.

    • @indranigomes9874
      @indranigomes9874 5 лет назад +10

      @@doconnell565 not a big deal mate

    • @indranigomes9874
      @indranigomes9874 5 лет назад +4

      Doctor Of The Fifth Proletariat the show and books had different names so people call them different names. You calling me Indrayner is just randomly changing a name like Tyrosh Lannister.

    • @peterjoyfilms
      @peterjoyfilms 5 лет назад +8

      @@onetwo57627 I suppose they thought it was one too many Roberts for viewers. Robert would make more sense though, he's clearly named after Robert Baratheon.

  • @con2858
    @con2858 5 лет назад +221

    imagine waiting for all these books from the jump in 96 lmfao

    • @sergiovela7686
      @sergiovela7686 5 лет назад +30

      I wasn't Even born in 96 😂😂😂

    • @jebushwplainview9453
      @jebushwplainview9453 5 лет назад +7

      I started reading it in 02..
      So I've been waiting a minute for winter.

    • @Lukas-vg1vi
      @Lukas-vg1vi 4 года назад +5

      I read them in the lockdown and now I want to read and every day I think: Please George Martin, write it to end. It don't know how I would still life when I read the first book when it come out.

  • @aricente
    @aricente 5 лет назад +284

    Ill sell my soul to the great OTHER to read an Ollena POV

    • @Thaistickthai
      @Thaistickthai 4 года назад +6

      I would listen to an audiobook read by Roy Dotrice of it, and not complain everytime he did her/other character's voices...

    • @nutyyyy
      @nutyyyy 2 года назад +4

      There's so many POVs that would be really interesting but the problem is sometimes those characters know too much or potentially lose their mystique when you know what they are thinking. At other times it can be an interesting twist when they are very different people from what you see from another POV.

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI 2 года назад

      I AM the Great Other

    • @muchanadziko6378
      @muchanadziko6378 Год назад +4

      I'd sell my soul to Olenna for a Great Other POV

  • @SINotFound
    @SINotFound 5 лет назад +138

    This is the most underrated channel I've ever seen, holy cow. These videos are amazing!

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  5 лет назад +14

      Thanks! There will be more, I'm glad you enjoyed them.

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 4 года назад +11

      @@AdmiralKird ????

    • @TAAF619
      @TAAF619 4 года назад +5

      @@AdmiralKird????????????

    • @NewDrovack
      @NewDrovack 4 года назад +4

      I check this page every month for an update

    • @geoffwilliams6072
      @geoffwilliams6072 4 года назад +2

      @@AdmiralKird ...?

  • @SaintHierophant
    @SaintHierophant 2 года назад +21

    I like to think that Turnip, like Arya, is a girl pretending to be a boy in a feudal society, in a plotline we will never know about and is unrelated to anything we've heard about. The appendix is the only hint at it.

  • @shendogg1
    @shendogg1 6 лет назад +171

    You have the most hilarious GRRM impression

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +20

      It's so terrible it works!

    • @andrewvanhorne4359
      @andrewvanhorne4359 8 месяцев назад +1

      It's like halfway to being a Stan Lee impression.

  • @jebuschrist5618
    @jebuschrist5618 6 лет назад +275

    they have to use your cover for a time for wolves in a dream of spring

    • @cityfolkferal
      @cityfolkferal 6 лет назад +30

      I laughed for a solid two minutes at this cover that I had to rewind the video to see what I missed haha

    • @rhaenyrareigns2200
      @rhaenyrareigns2200 5 лет назад +1

      I thought that it was disgusting...

    • @user-gc9dk7cc1y
      @user-gc9dk7cc1y 4 года назад +6

      @@rhaenyrareigns2200 Think that was the point.

    • @ktk44man
      @ktk44man 4 месяца назад

      Humorless like the real rhaenyra​@@rhaenyrareigns2200

  • @chocodoco4855
    @chocodoco4855 5 лет назад +40

    "Maybe he was a slow Loris" I spilled my yoghurt.

  • @vanessaamesty6739
    @vanessaamesty6739 6 лет назад +308

    On blood Oranges, I didn't realise they were a symbolism for house Martell, so I google to know more about them:
    -The blood orange is a natural mutation of the orange, which is itself a hybrid (Interesting, Martell are Rhoynar and Valyrian in part, also a little bit of Andal if I'm not mistaken)
    -They have a distinctive dark flesh color
    - He flesh develops its characteristic maroon color when the fruit develops with low temperatures during the night... mmm this gives me long night vibes, but I think it doesn't meant anything.
    - The skin can be tougher and harder to peel than that of other oranges. Martell are un-conquered
    - Blood oranges have a unique flavor compared to other oranges. Martell have definitely a diffrent style, so yes I like it.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +27

      As pointed out to me by /u/glass_table_girl, the blood oranges also get brought up in Sansa chapters as well, but there they are used for more other purposes. They talk about it on their latest episode of GirlsGoneCanon: girlsgonecanon.podbean.com/e/girls-gone-canon-asos-sansa-stark-vivii/
      So they're definitely in the story before but the question to me makes me wonder if yeah, GRRM decided here would be another great place to use them. And perhaps the stuff you brought up Vanessa will also influence his writing of Dorne with the motifs the oranges themselves show us.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 6 лет назад +6

      technically its nimeros-martel (forgive my spelling) martel being andal and the nimeros comes from the Rhoynar blood

    • @srnigromante9214
      @srnigromante9214 5 лет назад

      Martel have no Valyrian heritage, thei are Rhoynar and Andal.

    • @joeycash9739
      @joeycash9739 5 лет назад

      I think that would refer to their Rhoynar ancestry than their Targaryen ancestry

    • @joeycash9739
      @joeycash9739 5 лет назад +5

      @@srnigromante9214 Granted they did marry into house Targaryen numerous times. Then again so did other houses..

  • @markcahill9255
    @markcahill9255 4 года назад +56

    And people wonder why it takes George so long to write a book

  • @OneDodgyDude
    @OneDodgyDude 6 лет назад +74

    I just finished rewatching your 1st vid, just to tide me over while I waited for the next. Man, I can't wait to dig into this one. Keep 'em coming.

  • @golgarisoul
    @golgarisoul 4 месяца назад +4

    I love this! Thank you algorithm for leading me here!

  • @enkiimuto1041
    @enkiimuto1041 5 лет назад +41

    the time for wolves cover cracks me up

  • @Haedox
    @Haedox 4 года назад +41

    Loved this.

  • @E_T_31
    @E_T_31 Год назад +8

    This is the third time I watched this (coming back every year or so) & man it's always a fun ride.
    Your commentary catches me off guard every time - especially the German reading in the beginning!

  • @acetown2263
    @acetown2263 5 лет назад +42

    This is so obscure, and I'm kinda confused, but also so in depth, I really like this.

  • @devjadav2902
    @devjadav2902 4 месяца назад +3

    This is probably my favorite of your videos

  • @MM-xm5vx
    @MM-xm5vx 5 лет назад +30

    Sansa as Alayna is kind of the vale/Arryn pov

  • @natatavaresbocampagni9539
    @natatavaresbocampagni9539 4 года назад +5

    BITCH THE ACCENTS AND MARTIN'S VOICE IMPERSONATIONS ARE PERFECT HAHAHAHA

  • @MarcusBlackfyre1
    @MarcusBlackfyre1 2 года назад +3

    I don't even know if you check your comments anymore but I love your voices for comments especially GRRM and the german guy lol so bad theyre great

  • @imsooturtlesavage6730
    @imsooturtlesavage6730 6 лет назад +29

    A second upload. I have been waiting for this moment for many weeks.
    *ticks away another day with chalk*

  • @Dadecorban
    @Dadecorban 6 лет назад +96

    Your speech pattern and intonation reminds me of Mr. Plinkett at times. I typed that and THEN I saw the actual Plinkett impersonation.

    • @gandalfgrey91
      @gandalfgrey91 5 лет назад +6

      Titus Veridius Same thing happened to me. I was going to ask if he was a Mr. Plinkett fan haha

    • @Commanber
      @Commanber 4 года назад +3

      WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?!

  • @oneeyedcrow
    @oneeyedcrow 6 лет назад +123

    the accents were hilarious

  • @skizzik121
    @skizzik121 5 лет назад +6

    GO BILLIKENS!!!
    Also your videos, all 2 of them, are phenomenal.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  5 лет назад +2

      lol thanks, well we just lost in the ncaa but the 3rd video is moving along, hopefully within two weeks. It's been a sojourn.

  • @matheoustargaryen
    @matheoustargaryen 4 года назад +18

    WHO ARE YOU?!?!? I so enjoyed this video i cannot related it in words if I tried. It is absolutely brilliantly awesome to hear a fan of GRRM's work on the series to make poke fun or what have you or not take your fandom so seriously. I love George R. R. Martin. And I know you do too but its refreshing to hear some one be so comical about their Great Love.
    Thank you most sincerely.

  • @DarkerCompanion
    @DarkerCompanion 5 лет назад +25

    I was enjoying this video until "Maybe he was a Slow Loras."
    And then this video became amazing.

  • @gabrielionuttafalogu6214
    @gabrielionuttafalogu6214 6 лет назад +19

    Greatest new GoT yt channel

  • @anentiresleeveoforeos2087
    @anentiresleeveoforeos2087 6 лет назад +22

    I saw George at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
    He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
    I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
    The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
    When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

    • @bobodenkirk9086
      @bobodenkirk9086 4 года назад +1

      The fuck

    • @goldblue7037
      @goldblue7037 4 года назад +4

      This comment is so funny i hope that was not true tho

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 2 года назад

      Ye

    • @WisteriaNerium
      @WisteriaNerium 2 года назад +8

      @@goldblue7037 it's a really old copypasta

  • @Oops-All-Ghosts
    @Oops-All-Ghosts 5 лет назад +9

    1:30 It amazes me when people talk about Catelyn as representative of the Starks. She doesn't even think of _herself_ that way; she constantly thinks about her family in terms of "these northerners," and describes their qualities as "Stark qualities." She is very much an outsider, both in her own mind and, to a lesser extent, in the minds of the other northerners.

    • @Oops-All-Ghosts
      @Oops-All-Ghosts 5 лет назад

      Although, erm, Robert and Ned do 100% talk about Daeny within the first few chapters of the first book.

  • @wykart932
    @wykart932 6 лет назад +6

    Hope you keep these videos up, they're super in depth and well researched, but you're also such a funny guy and great presenter.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад

      Thanks Olivia, I appreciate it. I'm working on the next one but it'll still be a few weeks.

  • @barelyontheradar
    @barelyontheradar 3 года назад +5

    I just found this video, and wow, I'm so impressed with the whole thing - your research, the voices you adopt, your perspective, everything! phenomenal work. great job!

  • @chaosbringer82
    @chaosbringer82 4 месяца назад +3

    29:41 I, for one, support Turnip in her transition

  • @robrick9361
    @robrick9361 4 года назад +4

    That Mr Plinkett was perfect.

  • @paletteswapsquirrels
    @paletteswapsquirrels 6 лет назад +20

    The subject is treated with honest enthusiasm, but I'm subscribing for the sense of humour and the insightful conclusion.

  • @yagozoon8979
    @yagozoon8979 Год назад +1

    Loved this video, hope you make some more one day

  • @KingMckay
    @KingMckay 6 лет назад +114

    When you get 35 minutes in and you thought it's only been 2 minutes :D

  • @solaris025
    @solaris025 3 года назад +7

    You are amazing. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Your German accent is fabulous.

  • @TheHellyeahmen
    @TheHellyeahmen 7 месяцев назад +4

    With such charisma it's kind of a shame you don't make more videos

  • @nickynickyyy
    @nickynickyyy 5 лет назад +3

    I found you, burned through all the episodes of MM that you're in and then your videos, and then it was over. Come back. I need your takes and dry humor in my life so I can reply with my own sarcasm and look insane talking to myself

  • @Vmac1394
    @Vmac1394 4 месяца назад +3

    An intended time gap after book 3 sounds like GRRM was trying to do what Frank Herbert did with Dune after book 3. Except Frank Herbert made the time gap 4000 years and was moving on from pretty much every character in the first three books, it was a soft reset. GRRM's idea was far more complex to execute and it didn't work .

  • @vanessaamesty6739
    @vanessaamesty6739 6 лет назад +65

    I think the Tyrells in general know to much, having a POV of them would be spoiling everything:
    1- In the first book one Loras and Renly were scheming to crown Margaery by marrying her to Robert. Wish meant at least Margaery and Loras were plotting from before the beginning of the books. Perhaps they were thinking of Joffrey/Margaery from the beginning but he got betrothed with Sansa, so they swish to Robert.
    2- Then Loras and Renly where Central in COK, they couldn't have Loras as POV because the relationship with Renly would be more obvious. And the swish of sides at the ends would be Reveal.
    3- Olenna couldn't never being a POV, her involvement on Joffrey's death would be reveal; we also meet Garlan, he would make sense as a POV and yet I think he not being a POV is very telling, because I think Garlan was more involved in Joffrey's death than we often think, I think he knew about it, and actively participate and manipulated Tyrion at the same time (or if not manipulating him at least was involved in the Killing)
    4- Mace is too central to the negotiations with Baelish to swish sides to be a POV.
    5- Willas is a wild card that could be as manipulative as Doran and Olenna.
    6- Alerie Hightower has a chance to reveal a bigger Hightower/Tyrell plot to get control of the crown that goes back to Oldtown. (I think every Hightower is suspicious) The tyrell could basically be the new crown scheming Hightower thru Alerie
    In the end, I think and non-direct member of the House Tyrell like a servant, A young Maestre, a handmaiden, a lady in waiting, the Blue bard or even the a fool would make sense, George miss out on using a perverted or sarcastic fool that is planning to write a tell all book to shadow the Tyrells.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 6 лет назад +2

      lol loras and renly aren't even hinted at in the book, its clearly something made up for in the series, renly FYI makes his intention to marry margaery in the first book very clear to Ned stark. even if we assume the whole renly & loras thing is in the books (and we simply never got any evidence for it) its clear the tyrels and renly were plotting something for a long time (or possibly that renly isn't gay in the books and he simply liked the look of margery)

    • @madamehoefyre1808
      @madamehoefyre1808 6 лет назад +16

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 I'd argue that Renly's love affair with Loras was definitely apart of his character in the books, there'd just be no just reason for it to actually be seen unless Loras, Renly, or Margery had a pov. It wouldn't make sense for someone like Ned to have such knowledge or to witness such. Him being gay doesn't seem like a creative choice by the show and if it was, I'm sure George R.R. Martin would definitely have had a say in that matter or even put it forward.

    • @syferpolski4344
      @syferpolski4344 6 лет назад

      By the time Margery was in Kings Landing and preparing to marry Tommen, she'd probably not have too many plots to spoil

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 6 лет назад +8

      @@madamehoefyre1808
      Yep. Undoubtedly part of the books. It's just that Loras as a very minor character in the books.

    • @edisonmichael6345
      @edisonmichael6345 6 лет назад +13

      @@madamehoefyre1808
      Jaime to Loras: "(If you keep annoyng me) I'm gonna shove this sword in a place so deep that not even Renly has reached before".
      To which Loras... BLUSHES.
      I'm not sure how much blunter do you want a medieval society to get about that sort of thing...

  • @ultimacaster
    @ultimacaster 3 месяца назад +4

    I don’t think we’re acknowledging enough the cover for a time for wolves

  • @CDWLowe
    @CDWLowe 6 лет назад +3

    Your videos have been incredible so far- thank you. Looking forward to more content!

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks cameron, I'll do my best!

    • @casejordan4383
      @casejordan4383 3 года назад

      Please bump this if you upload a new video and I miss it, hope you have been good these past two crazy covid years

  • @JDesch
    @JDesch 5 лет назад +48

    All the best characters are Tyrells

  • @vvHun43rd
    @vvHun43rd Год назад +2

    I wish I could time travel to 2000 and tell George to just make a dance with dragons one huge book screw a five year gap screw affc and then just start working on winds and leave the name of the 6th book a time for wolves that sounds so fucking cool

  • @reid.7680
    @reid.7680 4 месяца назад +3

    I fell in love with your german accent what a lovely boy 8:01

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  4 месяца назад +2

      img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aNDWzq6_700bwp.webp

  • @thomasfriesejr.9198
    @thomasfriesejr.9198 5 лет назад +14

    Omg... the "A Time for Wolves" cover. DEAD! I'm just mad it took me so long to find your channel.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  5 лет назад +3

      Aw thanks, It's a fairly recent channel, there's a lot of ASOIAF/GOT stuff out there from creators who have earned more exposure.

    • @thomasfriesejr.9198
      @thomasfriesejr.9198 5 лет назад

      @@AdmiralKird You're earning it too! Excited to hear more of your analysis.

  • @markdaniel5784
    @markdaniel5784 6 лет назад +48

    I see the argument repeated many places about how some characters know too much to be POV's. How exactly - because Ned was a POV throughout the first book and he knows a whole lot. The notion that the George RR Martin couldn't write a POV for a character without revealing too much never made sense to me but it seems to be commonly accepted among GoT reviewers.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +21

      You make a good case. He does tend to write around this a lot but it can be tricky. GRRM in particular uses the trauma in Ned to almost hide his own feelings from himself, like he doesn't want to think about anything other than his sister. It's effective. Tyrion and the chain is another example where Tyrion is having all the blacksmiths forge these giant links, but the decisions he makes about where and how to use it are preserved for when the plan goes into motion.
      I guess you could write around the offer to bring the Tyrells into the fold in book two, I'm not sure that would entirely work that well though because he'd be writing around two back to back mysteries simultaneously by having both characters hiding their true intentions. It might work though, but it also might be a bit risky from a writing perspective to double down on that.
      Olenna in book three... I think after she has the information from Sansa planted in her head with Butterbumps dancing on the table (I love how GRRM writes this chapter in the books inter-cutting with the song), she'd almost have to be thinking "I needs deal with Joffrey. Margaery must be Queen but he will not do for a husband." I'm not sure GRRM could write her any other way, as that is such a key aspect to her character. She's very quick in words, wit, judgement, and decisive. So hiding a mystery from her perspective would be much more difficult than the traumatized Ned.
      I'm not sure Olenna would ever be a good POV for GRRM's usual writing because he likes characters who can sit and ponder and think on something and muse it. Olenna really isn't like that so while she might be a POV very different and unique to read, I'm not sure that's something GRRM would personally want to do? But thinking about it I kinda wish that her chapters existed, but because of them being faithful to her character she would be more at risk of giving things away before their time.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 6 лет назад +9

      @@AdmiralKird
      I don't really admire the tricksy games GRRM plays with Ned's pov. One thing in particular has always annoyed me, his omission to give us any detail of Ned's interview with Gared the ranger, mentioned only in a throwaway remark in Catelyn's first chapter.

    • @CharlesFreck
      @CharlesFreck 3 года назад +1

      @@alanpennie8013 What do you mean? We're told that Gared is so struck with terror that Ned's words don't reach him. There's no details of the interview to give. It's not even established that they even know who he is, they just assume he's a black brother because of the clothes he's wearing.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 года назад

      @@CharlesFreck
      No details indeed.
      The question I want answering is did Gared actually see The White Walkers or not?
      But the narrative is careful not to tell us.

  • @stevonico
    @stevonico 5 лет назад +5

    I love that your George impression sounds like Nixon from Futurama

  • @MidnightSun009
    @MidnightSun009 6 лет назад +31

    Would be interesting to see a video on why the five gap failed. Although it might only be known to George.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +22

      In the number of interviews I looked at, the predominant theme was it was really difficult for him to write the actual chapters as chapters in an engaging novel, containing the information of the past five years. It wasn't so much he was very lost as to where to take the story, but he kept having to explain what had happened during the 5YG within the chapters while new, current events were taking place. Characters were often standing around or sitting talking in depth of what happened in the last five years and this was cannibalizing the quality of these chapters and story. Ultimately he concluded he would be better of telling the story of the 5YG during AFFC as its own thing, and allowing the post-5YG chapters to breathe. Of course though, then AFFC grew too big and stuff started to get moved around and it became a whole new thing.

    • @MidnightSun009
      @MidnightSun009 6 лет назад +7

      @@AdmiralKird probably would have been easier to start off after the gap. Must be so difficult to juggle things now as they are not happening at the exact time they should have been. Maybe a world book to bridge the gap would have been in order, but to have a world book as part of an ongoing fantasy series...that is crazy.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +4

      @@MidnightSun009 The idea of a worldbook rather than a regular book is interesting and I've personally never heard that before. It's possible GRRM might have considered that but I think he'd also want to not publish it until right before the next regular book was finished and ready, so he could go back and change things to better fit the actual dramatic story which... There's just so much stuff he could do with that if he did, it might take him maybe even longer to complete.

  • @hi_austin
    @hi_austin 6 лет назад +119

    I detect hints of Mr. Plinkett. Nice.
    Edit: I left this comment after about the first five minutes. Then 22:10 happened. Love it!

    • @supermonkey321
      @supermonkey321 6 лет назад +16

      Yeah, this dude is pretty obviously mimicking the Mr. Plinkett style. Not complaining, since it works for me, but no one could argue this isn't clearly inspired by Mr. Plinkett videos.

    • @alastair6320
      @alastair6320 6 лет назад

      @@supermonkey321 It's good because he shows clearly that he's influenced by him. Other channels rip off his style without crediting him

    • @Jooooger
      @Jooooger 6 лет назад +1

      "I got chu!"

    • @JoPo4815162342
      @JoPo4815162342 5 лет назад +1

      I noticed the hints as well, I feel like that tone doesn't really work while explaining these videos.

    • @StarFox_SNES
      @StarFox_SNES 5 лет назад

      They’re so dense. Every single book has so many things going on.

  • @ramiromen6595
    @ramiromen6595 3 года назад +4

    Yeah it makes sense that that period was so tumultuous. I mean the Tyrells are absurdly op (tbh the entire Reach is op, it's basically medieval France without any of its political impediments). It makes sense to keep the area as obscure as possible.

    • @Kunumbah1
      @Kunumbah1 2 года назад +2

      Also makes sense why the Ironborn would skip over the entire Westerlands and jump straight to the Reach. It’s to make the region weaker geopolitically when the Dornish come or whatever.

  • @jamomma7296
    @jamomma7296 3 года назад +2

    I love feast and dance. Underrated.

  • @lordmelvin9310
    @lordmelvin9310 6 лет назад +6

    Your videos are absolutely fantastic! It's really astounding that you have so much charisma with only two videos under your belt. Take your time with the next one! :)

  • @erikb6869
    @erikb6869 5 лет назад +2

    This is great, these kind of videos are what keeps me sane while waiting for winds of winter. Instant subscribe. Hats off to you, keep it coming.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks Erik, don't worry, there will be more!

  • @lordinvictus793
    @lordinvictus793 6 лет назад +16

    I did find your speculation that GOT season 5 and six to be possibly based off five year gap material interesting.
    Tommen is a young teenager(the actor is seventeen but he acts more 14-15) and Marge is in her twenties. The battle over his affection, and the marriage being consummated(something that isn't possible in the books given how young Tommen is) and Marge and Cersei's back and forth.
    Perhaps the role of the HS in the show was also taken from this material, if it existed.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +2

      Yeah I really didn't realize it was like that til I was thinking about what Margy would have been like, then I recorded the first part, then realized this is a lot like the show... huh. Might be a connection, might not.
      Not sure about the High Sparrow, that dynamic I've seen described as being fundamentally different to the books. In the show its more about a pure, righteous, holy guy taking the lead of a radical uprising, whereas the books its more of a radical guy with no nonsense taking control of a fundamental populist movement. Some of this might happen to do with Jonathan Pryce's interpretation of the character as well. There's probably also more stuff to come with the Faith in the next book, as a lot of it seems to be born out of the earlier, violent pre-Luther portions of the reformation. Tommen's suicide might also be a twist on a future event of the reformation in... I think it's the Second Defenestration of Prague: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague
      (defenestration means "out the window" where they stormed the palace and literally threw everyone out) This could be Tommen's future book fate but they abbreviated it, what with tommen also being younger in the books it couldn't realistically be a suicide.

    • @lordinvictus793
      @lordinvictus793 6 лет назад +4

      @@AdmiralKird Hmm I always felt Tommen's death paralleled Bran's fall in a lot of ways.
      That is one aspect where I prefer the show, in the books Tommen doesn't do anything except eat and say he wants to ban beets, in the show he's a good intentioned but naïve teenager being led in multiple directions while having major problems of self confidence. I was rooting for Tommen in the show, while you can't become as invested in the character in the books. Chapman does a great job of portraying him as barely holding himself together a boy king who never had a chance but is such a sweetie.

  • @psevdhome
    @psevdhome 6 лет назад +8

    What an insanely brilliant video! Thank you very much.
    Even though it is speculation, you bring out some good arguments and interesting viewpoints.
    Willas sitting in the garden with roses is definately a chapter I would want to read.
    I just finished "A Storm of Swords" and this video made me thin about how many things are left ambiguous in a way that would have made a five year skip really interesting. A Feast for Crows continues hours or minutes after where Storm of Swords ends, but that doesn't mean it was originally planned that way.

  • @bryantaylor9874
    @bryantaylor9874 6 лет назад +57

    I always assumed the Water Gardens are loosely based on the Hanging Garden of Babylon. Arguably the least known of the 7 ancient Wonders of the World (WoW... Totally unintentional yet brilliant play on words lol).

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 5 лет назад

      That was what I thought they was based of. It certainly fits.

    • @veselinkostadinov712
      @veselinkostadinov712 5 лет назад +2

      I think the water gardens are based on the Arab/Moor palaces such as the Alhambra in Granada. Elaborate gardens with water channels were basically the center pieces of these palaces so if you base a kingdom upon the Moors this is a very natural direction to follow.

    • @doxasophosmoros
      @doxasophosmoros 5 лет назад +1

      Why? Cause they both have the word GARDEN in them? You fucking noob

    • @doxasophosmoros
      @doxasophosmoros 5 лет назад +1

      The hanging gardens were in the middle east... The water gardens of Spain , I mean "Dorne"🤨 are entirely different, not an actual city , but part of a castle..
      Fuck you people are dumb
      .and GRRM germ is VERY DERIVATIVE, HIS ENTIRR WORK IS DERIVATIVE.

    • @peterjoyfilms
      @peterjoyfilms 5 лет назад

      @@doxasophosmoros Dorne has some Spanish influences but it also has Middle Eastern influences.

  • @Real_Sp00ks
    @Real_Sp00ks 4 года назад +4

    It's a shame you haven't made more videos, the few you made were all really great. Hoping you come back one day!

  • @donwallacedcruz
    @donwallacedcruz 6 лет назад +75

    Imagine if this dude made theory videos!

    • @Blackhawk211
      @Blackhawk211 5 лет назад +4

      @Blake Hunt alt shift x you uncultured swine

    • @bdot11
      @bdot11 5 лет назад +1

      Blake Hunt whycreate

  • @joshg7320
    @joshg7320 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the subtle star wars references

  • @ternura727
    @ternura727 5 лет назад +2

    Amazing video. Waiting for new ones!!! I love your voices.

  • @shawn6669
    @shawn6669 4 года назад +2

    Didn't Maester Aemon mention a "tavern on an island in the Mander that serves crazy strong cider" (I paraphrase...it's been awhile since I read them) before the Pate chapter? Speaking of lead ins to Oldtown. FWIW.

  • @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
    @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive 6 лет назад +67

    Though I thoroughly enjoyed this video, I am absolutely befuddled as to how you forgot to mention Leo Tyrell who is in OldTown and literally has dialogue in the Prologue of AFFC...

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +20

      I did remember Leo, but omitted including him. The Tyrells compared to a lot of the others have a very big House if you look at their extended family tree, which Leo is a part of. So I figured I needed to cut it off somewhere or I'd be listing all the Tyrells out the wazoo, and Leo is also a maester in training so he's not supposed to be serving a specific House. You could say the same thing about Jon being included with the Starks but his story is fairly complicated, doesn't begin being a member of the Nights Watch and also finishes in ADWD with him getting involved with the realms of men.
      I could have talked about how Leo could have fit down in Oldtown, but because GRRM didn't mention him as being a candidate to write the Prologue from in AFFC like he did with Mollander and Rosey, I figured he wouldn't be under consideration for GRRM since Leo would have been the Tyrell POV to pick for that story line. There was a lot to cover in 46 minutes and with the video growing twice as long as I had hoped I needed to try and "cut the fat" as GRRM calls it. Some things get really complicated to talk about the ins and outs of things and if I sat on most of the above text blocks in this response, it would have dragged the video down for several minutes.

    • @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
      @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive 6 лет назад +8

      Thanks for the clarification. @@AdmiralKird

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад +11

      @@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive oh thank you for the comment, some of this stuff, when it comes up during the process, it's like... I want to talk about them, but I have to cut them, so therefore I don't have an outlet to talk about them! I have to put my faith in there being astute viewers who notice these things and want to discuss it.

    • @doxasophosmoros
      @doxasophosmoros 5 лет назад +1

      The tyrells were the best, without them the story is dull and boring. from a lineage of upstarts they worked hard, grew strong and were then killed instantly, unceremoniously. I loved the family and the history, but it was Nonsensically erased , a waste of time, and since then I realised Grrm is a hack with no plan or design , writing by the seat of his pants, hooking idiots with shock value wearing thin by now, without the cunning Tyrells we are left with same old tired shit, Starks, Lannisters.... All the rest should have been cut out, non of it mean anything. Even little finger, none of it matters when youre main character has supernatural powers like Bran does 😑 it's totally rigged... Not "wheell breaking" or democratic at all! It's all a farce . With no.changes. but that's George's ending. He isn't very good. Over hyped.
      AND KNOW THAT HBO MADE HIM FAMOUS, NOT VICE VERSA

    • @Erica-ye7kp
      @Erica-ye7kp 4 года назад +2

      @@doxasophosmoros you're aware grrm didn't kill the tyrells and they're still very alive in the books right? He had nothing to do with the show by then. That was a show thing. Grrm doesn't do fanservice.

  • @drachna
    @drachna Год назад +1

    I really enjoy your Mr Plinkett impression. The voices in this are great, as is getting to see your thought process.

  • @Yaratoma
    @Yaratoma 5 лет назад +3

    If he's the Gardener, then he must be delighted in robbing the Tyrells of a PoV 😂

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  5 лет назад +3

      Haha, I never thought of it that way. House Gardener gets its meta revenge.

  • @PurpleNoir
    @PurpleNoir 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’d be cool to see a book solely comprised of lost POVS, abandoned plot lines, first drafts etc etc

  • @depressedyouth
    @depressedyouth 3 года назад +3

    I would loved Willas' POV

  • @Jp-so7nl
    @Jp-so7nl 6 лет назад +2

    Great content, very excited to see where you take the channel

  • @NewDrovack
    @NewDrovack 4 года назад +3

    Any update on the Kings Landing video? I check your page weekly

  • @captainnolan5062
    @captainnolan5062 Год назад

    The key to the quote @ 44:13 is the word "exactly". George says, "If I know exactly where a book is going, I lose all interest in writing it." He has a general idea where it is going, and he will meander his way to the end (provided he lives long enough to get there). George clearly loves starting projects (look at all the new projects he has going on now). Finally, in a quote early on in this video, George says that he likes "having written" - however, he does not love the process of writing itself. I imagine this becomes even more the case as the story grows in complexity as he adds each new volume to the series.

  • @MrPokemon248
    @MrPokemon248 6 лет назад +4

    A feast for crows and a dance with dragons are both incredible well written books. They expand on a lot of back story, history and lore that enriches the first three volumes. And will no doubt enrich the end game of the last two volumes.

  • @javontaypeoples9603
    @javontaypeoples9603 6 лет назад +1

    These videos are the best thing on RUclips right now

  • @victorthomas5041
    @victorthomas5041 5 лет назад +7

    I know you post on reddit but put out some more videos man, you're exceptionally talented.

  • @f4ubricks
    @f4ubricks 4 года назад +20

    This feels like Mr Plinkett analysing the writing process of ASOIAF, and I love it!

  • @Otherspersons
    @Otherspersons 6 лет назад +2

    Oh man, I love your Ice and Fire videos, even though you've only done two. Please, do more!!

  • @annaclarallb
    @annaclarallb 6 лет назад +43

    HAVE YOU WATCHED QUENTIN TARANTINO FILMS?!?! IT LOOKS LIKE THIS!!!

  • @DanielALeary
    @DanielALeary 6 лет назад +2

    Really terrific. Something new and interesting in scope and imagination. Well done and congrats.

  • @MovieHypeSA
    @MovieHypeSA 5 лет назад +3

    This cracked me up 😂😂 did not expect that... great vid 👍

  • @CodyTaylor115
    @CodyTaylor115 6 лет назад +1

    Aye! Video two! Loving it man!

  • @Kunumbah1
    @Kunumbah1 2 года назад +3

    Bro really dropped three bangers and lefy

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  2 года назад +12

      What if I told you I'm working on a new one this moment

    • @soko-ban
      @soko-ban 2 года назад +1

      @@AdmiralKird 🥺

    • @popeyesailorman3544
      @popeyesailorman3544 2 года назад +1

      I will believe it when I see it!! Very excited

    • @Kunumbah1
      @Kunumbah1 2 года назад

      @@AdmiralKird I’ll believe it when I see it. Until then we will keep reusing the same “he dropped three bangers and left” meme.

    • @larochejaquelein3680
      @larochejaquelein3680 2 года назад

      @@AdmiralKird How about a WINDS progression video because George has given us a juicy update

  • @emilyg2451
    @emilyg2451 3 года назад +1

    I love this channel

  • @chair5613
    @chair5613 5 лет назад +5

    I don't know why I keep watching these videos. I haven't read the books yet.

  • @jebushwplainview9453
    @jebushwplainview9453 5 лет назад

    I really hope he keeps making videos.
    Favorite youtube ASOIAF channel

  • @lathanandrews417
    @lathanandrews417 6 лет назад +4

    Thank you thank you thank you!!! I’ve ALWAYS wondered why there isn’t a Tyrell POV!!! Margaery would be great! Especially if she’s anything like her tv counterpart!

  • @DrBlueCow
    @DrBlueCow 6 лет назад +1

    Great video! glad to get asoiaf content of things that I haven't already seen being discussed like a hundred times before.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  6 лет назад

      Thanks BlueCow, I'll keep trying to talk about stuff with asoiaf that I personally like that others don't speak about as much, and hopefully peeps like you will find it interesting. Some topics will overlap but I hope with whatever it is I keep it fresh.

  • @OneOnOne1162
    @OneOnOne1162 5 лет назад +6

    This is the third time I've watched this video and the dude is a totally deranged and it's fucking fantastic and I love it. Plus, still a pretty unique and interesting analysis. I can't wait for more videos!

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  5 лет назад

      Well, if you think that was deranged... you're gonna have to re-evaluate the scale for the third...

    • @OneOnOne1162
      @OneOnOne1162 5 лет назад +1

      AdmiralKird Oh boy, I'm looking forward to getting out my butterfly net then.

  • @CommonSenseWarrior37
    @CommonSenseWarrior37 4 года назад +2

    Please make more videos. Please. Just please. Come on. We need it. PLEASE.

  • @mahtabm8611
    @mahtabm8611 4 года назад +5

    Me, before seeing this video: "Yeah I am not a normie. I'm a asoiaf nerd."
    Me, after seeing this video: "Uh... oh."

  • @jimmartin2548
    @jimmartin2548 3 месяца назад +1

    Incredible Mr Plinkett impression!

  • @fakearya9158
    @fakearya9158 6 лет назад +6

    Just two brothers! 😂😂 Yes I caught that reference, and you just got yourself a subscriber.

  • @AZ-iv2xy
    @AZ-iv2xy 5 лет назад +2

    38:50 "you could puzzle out some sort of strange, bizarre Montague-Capugue relationship." Ah yes, I loved that Shakespeare play, Romiet and Juleo.

    • @AdmiralKird
      @AdmiralKird  5 лет назад +1

      You're the first person to notice this... whhhhhhhooooooooooops.

    • @AZ-iv2xy
      @AZ-iv2xy 5 лет назад

      @@AdmiralKird lmao. love your videos btw