I dont like the exhaust running uphill like that mate , you will 100% get a build up of condensation in the low point . Another thing a lot dont realise there is actually a drain hole in the silencer to let condensation out of it too .
These mufflers don't have the drain hole. They do have baffles inside that make it quite. But that's why I put the muffler outside, only a single joint to leak so less chance. A hole in the floor is the answer if it's going to be your main heater. But it's easier for people rather than a pump to fit a tank to put somewhere etc. It will get someone out of trouble on a cold night even if they put the heater outside and duct the heat inside.
@Roadshome that's a good thing then no hole . A few been caught out on boats , fitting muffler in a locker as you can't really fit them outside on a boat . Yeah that's the way, what about pulling gear stick gaiter off or something like that to run exhaust down hill if its temporary . Neat unit though , well handy .
@Roadshome That's a good idea. I really like the idea of leaving it outside under van and just have a slip on duct idea underneath somewhere or a catflap .
@thelonerizla1 yeah that's the safest way. All the 4x4 guys do this and duct through a open window and make a cover to fill the gap. I just never had anywhere near enough ducting to show how to do it,
Glad you mentioned that the pump will go quiet, at first I thought it was playing the start of a techno track😮 Nice and compact and they should have been like that years before and that way, the plastic tank could have been used for peeing in and look no different.
The first mod I made was to throw that leaking tank away. Good idea for piss pot 😆 I want to take it apart and see how they made the pump so quite. There's no sound from it at all. It must be an electronic pump. And that's how the thermostat works. Slowing fuel to cut heat and speeding up to warm it. They look smart too.
These units seem great and an improvement on the competition. The one thing that lets ALL these devices down is the crude manufacture of the exhaust pipe. It would be a great step forward to see a quality INSULATED pipe and decent leak proof muffler, with a some useful mounting options. Thanks for your nice & useful video. 👍
What a great bit of kit! I will look into these as an alternative for my 40ft narrowboat as I already have a Chinese diesel heater in my van. Excellent review guys and very affordable xx
@ I’d run it through somewhere safe, higher up. Chinese diesel heaters are used on a lot of narrowboats so I can’t see this option being any more difficult. If anything it would be a lot easier!
Yeh, cheers mate, but roof vent is normally open anyway for fresh air and ventilation and I have absolutely zero pump noise, it’s under the van on straps encased in dense sponge, cannot hear it at all 👍
Eventually he did notice,. Still, this is a great point for other viewers who perhaps, didn't finish the video. It would be a very bad idea to route it as first seen or touching any surface at all! In a case as seen there, the window will shatter and the rubber seal will burn up. The exhaust pipe can reach temperatures up to and maybe even over 200C! Water boils at 100C! The pipe must be routed so that it's not touching any surface. Using a through-wall adapter designed for these, is a good idea. I've seen some wrap the pipes in high heat wrap. If I get a heater, that'll be #1 on my list as well as the adapter.
This looks fabulous. Be a cracking idea for my little old van, especially if I could run the exhaust pipe out of the window possibly. Going to watch video back though tomorrow when I have more time and look in to it. Brilliant video Both. Everything explained clearly. Look forward to checking it out. Love and Big Hugs Both ❤❤
@Roadshome no, not at the moment. Was thinking about getting a Chinese one but be a lot of hassle cutting though the floor sorting out the exhaust. But this idea should work a lot better. Having a look into it
@asaandthemarchharepart2903 running the heater outside and ducting the heat vent into the van like hot tents or 4x4 guys do is the safest way. I just didn't have 3 meters of duct vent. If you want one of these speak to us before you buy. 😃
Got the N2-T (green one) heating my (parked) 36ft 5th wheel. E. WA. USA. Does a bang up job. Mounted just outside a window w/controller inside. Intake ducted to the interior to recirculate air. It's in a lidded bin. I'm ready for winter (as far as heat goes). there is no pump noise after it gets going.
looks like a great bit of kit, I would worry about that exhaust inside the van though. I recon it could work well if mounted outside somehow with a vent coming in. Do you think it could be perminantly fixed to the outside of the van?
It's so easy to vent into the van with a longer duct. I just never had enough to show it clearly. Look at this at 6.30 through the window. link.ruclips.net/video/-_LXcXHoxGo/видео.htmlsi=aocHSG9z31P6ztip
I just got done doing a slight modification to my LF Bros (N2) model. I removed the LCD display control box and holder and spun it around and reinstalled it back into the case.Before the display was upside down being the way i mounted the heater. A slight "mod" is needed to be done tho. I simply notched the case so the lcd holder would fit in since they made it to have a notch on the one corner and only go in one way.. I'm still thinking about extending the cable about 5 foot so i can put it inside the vehicle.
What we did there wasn't a permanent setup. We both have heaters in our vans so couldn't show the perfect set up. Ideally you would put the heater outside the van and duct the heat inside. We have posted on our community page please see that post and photo. But thank you for noticing and making a comment.
Thank you for the wonderful video. You mentioned that N2 model controller shows the fuel level inside the tank. I wonder if the N2-T controller shows the fuel level as well? We'd appreciate if you folks look into that. Thanks.
The n2-t monitor doesn't tell you how much fuel is left in the tank, however there is a little window gauge on the front of the n2-t unit, similar to the gauge you have on a traditional electric kettle . Hopefully that makes sense.
i have a 1000 jackery and this looks like a great idea. i cant find the discount code so please could you advise( yeah i know im useless!) . how long would this heater last on my jackery do u think?( roughly) thankyou! lovely to watch a normal video too! ty!
At a guess it should easy last a long weekend ( 3 days ) maybe longer. I think the little Jackery said 7 to 9 hours if I remember correctly. We do say in the video.
Yes I love the eater, you said u needed some longer Ooo’s to run it properly from outside. I have some you can have. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Hopefully that’s enough.
As others have mentioned, these are no different to the all in one Chinese diesel heaters available and delivered for £85. A Bluetooth version for a little over £100. The muffler, air intake filter, fuel line and fuel pump can all be upgraded to make them a better product. You can also very cheaply set up a thermostat. I wouldn’t have shown this setup as it is thoroughly unsafe, at best it will ruin the heater eventually through acidic condensation running back towards the heater - that’s if you survive long enough. It’s not simply a hole in the floor that’s required. Exhausts passing through a camper floor become extremely hot at the point of exit and needs a heat sink or metal plate to disperse the heat radiating from the exhaust pipe enough not to create a fire risk. They are nice looking units but nothing that warrants the extra cost imo.
Where do I get a totally silent fuel pump ? I've tried to quite my own pump but failed. I've had friends by the so called low noise pumps on Ebay and amazon but these still make noise. I would have thought it was common sense obvious we are not going to drive around with an exhaust pipe out the window and a diesel heater on the front seat. But if it was, then I can assure you, we don't intend keeping it like this. We both have fitted heaters.
Hi good vids but i have had a very similar all in one chinese heater i payed £74 4 years ago and just changed the glow plug they are still available from £80
Point of exit from main body exhaust gets extremly hot, so sitting ontop of the plastic centre console not a good idea. Exhaust fumes would be my big worry as well. Properly sealed and vented out from fire proof exit in floor would be the only way.
@@Roadshome I believe you have misread what im saying im talking about what the heater is sitting on between the seats looks like a plastic centre console ( even for a short period of time not a good idea ) as the start of the exhaust outlet gets extremly hot. I know you have set it up on a temp basis. However no point in setting up in a way that it would never work imho. Yes I have something similar and the Main unit casing doesnt get that hot.
Yes we misunderstood what you was trying to point out. What you can't see is the plastic drops down about 2.5 inch so has reasonable clearance and didn't get hot. I said to a few people the safest way is to site the heater outside, chained to a wheel and heat ducted in. I just didn't have any ducting to show the heater running like this and the company wanted to see the heater in use. Some viewers have even thought we would leave the exhaust out the window while driving. 😆 we aren't I can assure you. It's good people like yourself have pointed issues like this out, thanks as it gives other the opportunity to read your concerns.
You go on about Chinese not having thermostat but this is exactly the same??? Then you say that a diesel heater can’t turn off so it’s constantly running like Chinese. On my Chinese If it’s too hot just put it on lowest in Alpine mode and it’s fine, roof vent open a bit, no problem and it was 65 quid!
If your happy with what you have it's all good steve. The N2 T turns the heat up and down by adjusting the fuel mix to adjust the temperature using less fuel. You have to open and close a roof vent wasting fuel. You got a tapping noise, N2 no noise. I get sent the product to show what's available and it's features.
There's some confusion on the LF Bros' descriptions on Amz for their different heaters. For the N2-T is says NO thermostat, but for the N2-T Pro it does say thermostat. Yet in your video, it appears that you are adjusting the temperature! And you do mention about the unit not turning off completely, but pulses the dosing pump slower, which is interesting and does make sense for a non-thermostatically controlled unit. So now I wonder if the "Pro" unit that claims "thermostat" goes actually go through the entire shutdown and startup routines to meet the thermostat's setting.... hmmmm... I am aware that most with no real thermostat do just slowly cycle as mentioned but ones with an actual thermostat do go through full shut down and startup cycles. So this is very interesting. It's videos like this that really help people do research to find the best units for their needs! Thank you for that!
The N2 T definitely lowers the heat once the temperature reaches it set level. Once the temperature drops it then puts fuel back into the heater the and heat output goes up again. The fan also slows and increases to raise and lower the output temperature. The lcd also has 2 modes, normal heater and a temperature setting. If on normal the cycle doesn't change. You just get 24/7 heat. On temperature the cycle goes into lower highter output cycle. Hope that helps. I'm going to open this until and see what makes that pump so quiet after Christmas. Keep an eye out for that.
@@Roadshome On that white one with the LCD on top, it looks like there's a spot to put a finger and maybe lift it out. Does it in fact lift out on a wire to use like the N2-T has? Just curious.
It's still a chinese heater, the company hq and manufacturing is in china, just better quality and upgraded quiet pump, which is why the price is much higher than the cheaper chinese heaters. Took mine on a couple trips this winter so far and most efficient set up is to keep it inside as it will draw less battery and use way less fuel. My wife did use it to dry her hair after our showers too. Good video.
It would be good to have a look inside the unit to see if it uses the cheaper green or clear plastic fuel lines: i normally change them out and I do like like the exhaust position at the side of the unit. I would still probably fit a heater in the van with air and exhaust vented through the floor via a turret plate, which I think is a much safer arrangement and at the same time change out the fuel pump for a ultra quiet one, about £14. J
Ya but the HCalory is not nearly the build quality of the LF Bros products. The Burner and Needle and other internal components are Japanese and far better quality than HCalory. But the HCalory is a tad better than a Vevor.
there is a video of run time on youtube its 8 lts lasts 50 hours they have tweaked them over the last 12 months also there is another all in one just come out 6 lts lasts 50 hours
Lots of people have said the same. From what I've seen they are better made. Lots have said but it's still a Chinese heater. Yes it is, but it makes no ticking sound. All the parts are well made. Every other Chinese heater I've seen for a start the jubilee clips are rubbish. These are not. It's like all things in life, you can buy a cheap watch or spend as much as like for a high quality one. They both tell the time but are not the same.
I have a diesel heater and they are good and economical. The only problem that no-one seems to talk about is if there is a sudden power cut if running off of 240volts etc. Because there is no power to the internal fan it overheats and smoke billows out of it and deffo a hazard. Bear this in mind. They should have a ups built in to them.
It also blows the heat sensor if you have a sudden power loss. But yes another good reason to site the heater outside the van and duct the heat vent in.
It wasn't a permanent fixture. As I've said to others driving around with an exhaust out the window should have made it obvious. Myself and Sioux have lpg truma heaters as we said in the review. We needed to demonstrate how the heater worked for LF Bros. They are very well made, and I think a lot of people don't appreciate this when they say I bought a much cheaper one of Ebay.
Nice device. I’ve one on the way, however, I can’t see where the fresh combustion air intake hose is? It needs its own oxygen from outside, not inside- we need that air to breathe. We also don’t want the risk of any carbon monoxide building up inside.
Yes I plan a follow up video cos some of my subscribers have brought up some important things I want to share. The power of comments sharing knowledge is good and helps us all. Air intake for engine is on the inside, that's OK as it only feeds the diesel/air mix. The fan air is on the back of the unit so will use the air from the area you site the heater. If its inside it helps increase heat. If it's outside the van the heat produced will be a little cooler and maybe use more diesel.
@ thanks for responding. It’s arrived. Yikes! On another RUclips, I thought I saw an intake to connect a pipe going out externally to the fresh air at the bottom of the heater- but it seems to go to a vent, which would just take air from the van. Quite honestly, I think these are made for using outside.
These can be used in either situation. Inside or out. If you want to site it outside the best possible set up would be to sit the heater next to your wheel. And chain it. So you don't lose it. Then buy probably 6m of silicone ducting. 3m for intake 3m for heat output. It's not cheap but it's fantastic compared to what you get. You can also get cheaper ducting. I'll post links to both. Then duct both intake and outtake vents on the heating into the van through a window. You can use 3mm ply to cover the window gap and cut a hole for the duct to fit. This way the heater and exhaust is outside. The heat is only circulating so not using oxygen. The oxygen intake is built within the heater. I'll try to find a video that explains what I mean. I would have liked to explain this in my video but I didn't have enough ducting. amzn.to/4etUO0E amzn.to/4hRIKJh
@@Roadshome I regret to learn and conclude that the heater is unsafe for inside use, as the combustion air intake draws air from inside rather than outside, risking oxygen depletion and carbon monoxide exposure. These will be safe used outside, however I don’t want an external heater. Unfortunately there is a no return policy for these heaters, so I will be contacting Amazon tomorrow to start a claim.
Hi there. Ive just bought this off amazon using your code. I was wondering if you could help. Its just arrived but Im finding it difficult to fix the exhaust to the main heater body. Is it a really tight fit that needs forcing. I dont want to force it and damage it, but the fixing doesnt seem big enough to fit. What did you do or was yours an easy fix?
@edmundbrelsford624 It should fit. Mine was tight. I would use something to flare out the edge a bit. Wooden spoon handle or hand broom might work. The metal is thin so will shape easy.
i would add if you fit one to a boat it will not pass a boat safety cert. if caught by crt using one they have been removing them, a reason to not use these all in one units inside a van is the exhaust and combustion needs to both be outside as per the instructions this is brother do leak over time. they are fine for a draughty workshop but that’s it. these heaters run like all others much cleaner on kerosene you will struggle to get red diesel any more. on boats can get it still but that’s being phased out by a few marinas now.
@@Roadshome how do you know all parts are good quality? You have stated in the comments you haven't opened it up so don't know what's inside? Personally I think you've done the company that has given you these no favours in making this video. Just look at the comments everyone is saying how dangerous your set us was. Hopefully the manufacturers contact you and tell you to remove this video before some idiot sets it up like you did and ends up dead!
HEY , you are giving out INCORRECT information regarding the LF Bros units , like the Green Plateau and other models with the T in the model number. It is NOT for Thermostat. It does not have a " thermostat " !! The T is for Timer , the models with a T have the new series Control Panels with a TIMER to turn them On and Off at Preset Times and Days. Sorry to Tell You. But your description was incorrect. Thanks. 🙏
You do realise it's to show the heater working. Driving around with an exhaust out the window and diesel between the front seats was never going to be permanent, and that's why everyone should watch all the video and not skip.
I wouldn't buy it,the extra features over a basic all in one don't justify the price for me,a better video would have been for you to take the cover off it and expose what pump was used.
I can't do that a present time. We were given them for review and it would be whole unfair. But yes I'm very curious and have looked to see what keeps the case together 😆 who know what the future will bring. A few people have said you can buy low noise pumps. But I've heard these low noise. They make noise. These Bros pumps really are silent as far as pump goes. I'm thinking they are electric fed and not mechanical. Give me a month or so. 😉
Standalone heaters should not be installed in vans. The exhaust connection will be inside the van and could potentially leak. Very dangerous and should not be promoted to use in this way.
There seems to be a difference of opinion on this thought youtube. Plenty of people fitted heaters inside workshops/houses, and just as many fitted them outside. As for in Camper, vans there is a difference from poorly fitted and maintained to well fitted. It comes down to common sense in the long run. If done correctly, it's not a problem. Like everything in life, it's when it's done wrong, there's a problem.
Not a chance I would have an exhaust connection in the van , even with a clip and exhaust seal . Far too risky. Buy £70 standard heater and use a turret . This means all connections are outside the van through the floor. Life is valuable. You only get one !
There is a reason you shouldn’t use all in one diesel heaters inside a van (or any enclosed space) - if the exhaust should split or crack at any point along the pipe or the connection at the bottom of the unit comes loose at all you will get CO fumes inside and could cause death. There are a few deaths each year from this. Do the instructions mention this at all?
@Freedom-projects the same would happen to any fixed diesel heater if it leaked at the turrent. A lot of people don't even fit a turrent and install them straight through the floor. Cutting a hole the size for exhaust and air intake together. That's even worse.
@ it’s really not, with a turret the connection is outside as you seal the turret to the floor and if you cut the holes properly without a turret the connections SHOULD be outside. The connection on this unit is OBVIOUSLY inside so not safe. Look it up and see for yourself. Or just look at the exhaust outlet and where the connection is
@Freedom-projects yes I can see what your saying, with a turrent. But having fitted my heater with a turrent i can still see a small potential for a leak of fumes if it cracks. Also as i say not everyone uses a turrent if they have a metal floor, And that's pretty much as bad as running the exhaust out the window or door. With an all in one heater it's far safer to have the whole heater outside and duct the heat into the van through a window like you would a hot tent. I just didn't have enough ducting to show this well enough. For us we have lpg truma heaters, and the diesels are a back up. So ours as I say are not staying as we showed it running. Although with a carbon monoxide alarm near the by i wouldn't have a issue for a few nights emergency use. Even our lpg truma has the exhaust inside the van with high risk of leaks if they develop. My unit is fitted behind the seats with no way of me checking for any leaks. I just have to trust the company did a good job 😆 not encouraging when you know the van was built in Portugal.
I wasnt given a cheap vs expensive heater to review so how is that sucking up ? I've reviewed the heater i was given. Said what it can do, what's different from a cheap heater. If I thought it was crap and didn't work I wouldn't have reviewed it. If someone wants to send me a cheap and expensive heater and ask me what's better value I'd be happy to review them and give my thoughts.
Exhaust hose is way to short, no temp adjustment, either on or off, weight?, exhaust out a window will leak-Bottom line there are a lot better ones out there! And surely won’t heat a garage!
The exhaust that comes with the until is stand heater length. You can buy other length to fit your needs. There is adjustment for temperature from high to low about 12 settings and yes it will easy heat a garage even on low heat once it's warmed. We are obviously not going to drive around with an exhaust out the window. We thought that would be obvious to everyone, it was to show the heater working for the video.
Totally not safe for a van the point the heater joins the exhaust will be inside the van, if it leaks you don’t wake up simple. Plus the heaters will be made in China, nothing wrong with that though most of them are good quality heaters ( just like most of the electrical products in your house from China)
Whether the exhaust leaks or not comes down to how it is fitted. If fitted correctly, it won't leak. There's no difference in saying your van will kill you if you don't drive it correctly. Probably more of a risk actually than the heater, actually. There are plenty of people with these heaters inside workshops, garage vans, etc. I know you mean well Stephen, and I'm sure people will read your comments and take them on board. Cheers
Looks a nightmare Just buy a unit on its own for £120 and get it fitted Only wey slightly more and no future hastle .moving it in and out of van. . Plus it wont get stollenand not sure how well it will stand up to snow and rain.
If you can live with the tapping from a cheap heater no problem. But for a lot of people they can't fit a £120 heater. Fitting is around £450 (liam blacks price ) that I think is good value. So that's £570 plus travel costs there and back a lot more than a LF Bros. If it's for a workshop then it won't need moving. So is a good deal.
Agree but not at that price . I have two of these i aii in one ubits n my workshop / garage Paid about £110 each and they work fine. Exhausts through wall outside. They are great but the palarva of settig up a heater everytime you stop is just in my opinion crazy. What do you do if it is chucking it down with rain or snow. Exactly the time you want the heating . Sometime you just have to pay a bit more and have a hasstle free time.
@Martin37vg sioux has a truma heater that runs on lpg. So it's a back up as a just in case. I did say this towards the end, some people assumed we was going to drive with it in place also 😆 but no, I wish I had more ducting to explain a outside the van set up, as that's safer.
So does nothing better than normal all in one chinese heater but does it more dangerously if used internally at more than 4 times the price. Free sh*t is the killer of integrity.
I know what your saying, but it is well made, all the parts are good quality. Baffles are real baffles. Jubilee clips work too. But yes still expensive.
That's like saying your solar might fall off and a lot of people do say that. . Yes it might, but it's up to us the user to check. And ensure it doesn't. If you put food on the cooker and don't check on it, there's a risk. I know what your saying, and there is good argument for both sides. If a person isn't confident to fit the exhaust properly then they should use the heater outside like I showed and duct heat from outside.
@ the way you showed your set up would point to a lot of moving and manipulating of an already vulnerable exhaust which when repeatedly heated,cooled and moved will become more susceptible to leaks
There is a big safety issue with having a self contained diesel heater inside a van. If the connection to the exhaust port leaks it will be leaking exhaust fumes and possibly carbon monoxide straight into your living space. Much safer not to have a self contained heater and mount it on a turret to ensure that the exhaust gasses don’t enter your living space. Also the exhaust pipe is going to get very hot especially if you are running the heater at maximum, it could well cause damage to anything that could melt or burn that it comes into contact with. Please remove this video you really don’t want to be recommending people to be having a set up like this as it could have a very bad ending.
Saying the exhaust could leak if you don't fit it correctly is the same as you saying you might crash your van while driving if you don't drive properly. Yes you can. Or if you don't put fuel in the vehicle it will break down. Yes of course the exhaust could leak if you don't check it and ensure it doesn't. It's down to the person fitting the heater as it would be any heater, if it's not fitted correctly you will have a problem. There are loads of people all over the world and on YT with contained heater fitted inside houses workshops garages and vans. It won't be a problem it the owners make sure there isn't a leak. Every diesel heaters exhaust also gets hot, even built in heaters MUST have a adequate size hole for the area around the exhaust not to burn. It's again up to the fitter to make sure it's safe.
It’s not just a case of fitting it incorrectly. There is a lot of vibration in a van the clip connecting the exhaust pipe to the exhaust port of the heater do work lose. There is a reason why a vehicle fails it’s MOT in the UK if it is possible for exhaust gasses to leak into the vehicle from underneath. You should be just as careful with a diesel heater. Considering that a person has recently lost their life I would of thought you would be more careful. What you are advocating people do with a self contained diesel heater is dangerous.
You have just said yourself that a vehicle is tested at MOT for exhaust leaks. As I have said, anyone fitting a diesel heater weather garage fitted, self fitted, built in to the van or a stand alone unit, it's up to the person using it to do so safely. Even a motorhome with a factory fitted truma system can leak and fail. That's why people fit alarms. You can't blame the unit for people poor maintenance and use. I've put in 2 warnings for carbon monoxide and 1 warning for hot exhaust. So I think I've taken safety on board. Thanks for your concerns and comments, people will read them and make a informed decision 👍
It’s a very serious issue and I do believe that you are misguiding people. I will just leave this here and as you say let people make there own mind up. AI Overview You should not use a self-contained diesel heater in a van primarily because of the serious risk of carbon monoxide poisoning from its exhaust fumes, which are odorless and colorless, potentially leading to death if not properly vented to the outside; improper installation can also lead to leaks within the van, further increasing the danger. Key reasons to avoid a self-contained diesel heater in a van: Carbon monoxide risk: The biggest concern is the potential for carbon monoxide poisoning due to the exhaust gases produced by the heater, which can be deadly if inhaled in an enclosed space like a van. For anyone reading this then please do your own research or better still ask a heating engineer.
The same is said about any diesel heater though. AI Overview Yes, diesel heaters can be dangerous if not used properly, and can cause carbon monoxide poisoning, fire hazards, and inadequate oxygen levels: Carbon monoxide poisoning If there is no ventilation, carbon monoxide can build up in the area where the heater is located. Fire hazards Diesel heater exhausts can cause fires if they are not installed correctly. Inadequate oxygen levels In enclosed spaces, diesel heaters can lead to inadequate oxygen levels. Contaminated air Other sources of contaminated air, such as a leaking engine exhaust or petrol fumes, can be circulated by the heater. Low-quality heaters Low-quality diesel heaters can be dangerous and may come with risks like carbon monoxide poisoning. Here are some tips for using diesel heaters safely:
What absolute plonkers, you are actually showing people how to commit suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning, or burn themselves alive! People producing content like this should be banned!
@dereksimmons9632 I'm still here messaging you, so who's the nutter. If what you said was correct I wouldn't be. Explain that 😆 you've answered your own trolling.
I am not trolling! But what you set up on this video is so dangerous, in fact it should be promoted as how not to use a diesel heater. This type of heater should never be installed internally. You should take personal responsibility if anyone dies using a heater set up like this.
@dereksimmons9632 what are you talking about ? Do you think we are going to drive around with a 10kg diesel heater in the middle of our seat with an exhaust sticking out the window. You have not watched the whole video. You have skipped through so you can criticise and make ridiculouscomments. Did you not hear the part we say it's being put in a cupboard. As a back up. Or the part we say we have a truma heater fitted ? Can I suggest you watch the video before jumping to conclusions.
Yeah never install these in a van definitely dangerous ok if the unit is outside and the hot air pipe lead onto a tent or van but installed in a van is a definite NO really bad advice to even suggest it should be installed in a van
Plenty people on youtube have installed diesel heaters inside workships, houses vans garages etc. No issues. What your saying is if done wrong it's dangerous. There is room for error in everything. Even cooking in a van could be dangerous. Let's face it, getting out your van could also be dangerous 😳 if done badly.
Im not going to argue with you about it your right everything is dangerous is done incorrectly but fact of the matter is these are not ment to be installed inside a vehicle or a building the unit should be outside so to suggest it is a good idea to install in a van and put the exhaust out the window is just bad advice review products fine but dont give dangerous advice..... The fact is the exhaust and the air intake for the combustion should not be in anyway inside at all these units are designed to be external... I wouldn't give advice on steping out my vehicle onto a live lane on a motorway if your car brakes down but you can do it its just really bad to advise it as a good thing 🙄
I dont like the exhaust running uphill like that mate , you will 100% get a build up of condensation in the low point . Another thing a lot dont realise there is actually a drain hole in the silencer to let condensation out of it too .
These mufflers don't have the drain hole. They do have baffles inside that make it quite. But that's why I put the muffler outside, only a single joint to leak so less chance. A hole in the floor is the answer if it's going to be your main heater. But it's easier for people rather than a pump to fit a tank to put somewhere etc. It will get someone out of trouble on a cold night even if they put the heater outside and duct the heat inside.
@Roadshome that's a good thing then no hole . A few been caught out on boats , fitting muffler in a locker as you can't really fit them outside on a boat . Yeah that's the way, what about pulling gear stick gaiter off or something like that to run exhaust down hill if its temporary . Neat unit though , well handy .
I think a hole in the step by the sliding door will work it's the lowest point and easy to see so someone don't drill into anything they can't see.
@Roadshome That's a good idea. I really like the idea of leaving it outside under van and just have a slip on duct idea underneath somewhere or a catflap .
@thelonerizla1 yeah that's the safest way. All the 4x4 guys do this and duct through a open window and make a cover to fill the gap. I just never had anywhere near enough ducting to show how to do it,
ROFL! Love the ending!
*TOUCHÉ* on the diesel EATER and not HEATer!
Well done!
Thank, another great review from you both. I really like the idea of being portable so i can take it inside my home if needs be.
Glad you mentioned that the pump will go quiet, at first I thought it was playing the start of a techno track😮 Nice and compact and they should have been like that years before and that way, the plastic tank could have been used for peeing in and look no different.
The first mod I made was to throw that leaking tank away. Good idea for piss pot 😆 I want to take it apart and see how they made the pump so quite. There's no sound from it at all. It must be an electronic pump. And that's how the thermostat works. Slowing fuel to cut heat and speeding up to warm it. They look smart too.
These units seem great and an improvement on the competition. The one thing that lets ALL these devices down is the crude manufacture of the exhaust pipe. It would be a great step forward to see a quality INSULATED pipe and decent leak proof muffler, with a some useful mounting options. Thanks for your nice & useful video. 👍
Cheers guy's, I was thinking of getting one of these. Your discount code has just come in handy.
Good review guys. Looks a good product . 😊
What a great bit of kit! I will look into these as an alternative for my 40ft narrowboat as I already have a Chinese diesel heater in my van. Excellent review guys and very affordable xx
How/where do yours exhaust ? Obviously not through the floor 🙄 😆 just wondered how you have done it on a boat or is it fitted outside ?
@ I’d run it through somewhere safe, higher up. Chinese diesel heaters are used on a lot of narrowboats so I can’t see this option being any more difficult. If anything it would be a lot easier!
Yeh, cheers mate, but roof vent is normally open anyway for fresh air and ventilation and I have absolutely zero pump noise, it’s under the van on straps encased in dense sponge, cannot hear it at all 👍
Hot exhaust hanging on a glass window, brilliant, you are about to find out the cost of a door glass.
You didn't watch the video did you. ? TUT TUT go back and watch 😆 all jokes aside yes if you watch enough you will see I did notice.
Eventually he did notice,.
Still, this is a great point for other viewers who perhaps, didn't finish the video.
It would be a very bad idea to route it as first seen or touching any surface at all!
In a case as seen there, the window will shatter and the rubber seal will burn up.
The exhaust pipe can reach temperatures up to and maybe even over 200C! Water boils at 100C!
The pipe must be routed so that it's not touching any surface.
Using a through-wall adapter designed for these, is a good idea.
I've seen some wrap the pipes in high heat wrap. If I get a heater, that'll be #1 on my list as well as the adapter.
I'd respectfully love a free hat for my wallrus jonathan 😅
This looks fabulous. Be a cracking idea for my little old van, especially if I could run the exhaust pipe out of the window possibly. Going to watch video back though tomorrow when I have more time and look in to it. Brilliant video Both. Everything explained clearly. Look forward to checking it out. Love and Big Hugs Both ❤❤
Asa don't you have a heater already? Sioux.
@Roadshome no, not at the moment. Was thinking about getting a Chinese one but be a lot of hassle cutting though the floor sorting out the exhaust. But this idea should work a lot better. Having a look into it
@asaandthemarchharepart2903 running the heater outside and ducting the heat vent into the van like hot tents or 4x4 guys do is the safest way. I just didn't have 3 meters of duct vent. If you want one of these speak to us before you buy. 😃
@Roadshome yeah I looked at the extra add ons. Extra long pipe and the correct tape for cooling
@Roadshome definitely seeing about getting one. Keep her Ladyship happy at night
Love that quote, the instructions are in English,
Yeah english you can read
Got the N2-T (green one) heating my (parked) 36ft 5th wheel. E. WA. USA. Does a bang up job. Mounted just outside a window w/controller inside. Intake ducted to the interior to recirculate air. It's in a lidded bin. I'm ready for winter (as far as heat goes). there is no pump noise after it gets going.
It's a nice looking heater to. Ducting the heat the way you've done it is better, I just didn't have enough ducting to show it this way.
looks like a great bit of kit, I would worry about that exhaust inside the van though. I recon it could work well if mounted outside somehow with a vent coming in. Do you think it could be perminantly fixed to the outside of the van?
It's so easy to vent into the van with a longer duct. I just never had enough to show it clearly. Look at this at 6.30 through the window. link.ruclips.net/video/-_LXcXHoxGo/видео.htmlsi=aocHSG9z31P6ztip
@@Roadshome thanks mate :)
We have been looking at similar, now if only they would send me one LOL
And the purchase price is ???.
I just got done doing a slight modification to my LF Bros (N2) model.
I removed the LCD display control box and holder and spun it around and reinstalled it back into the case.Before the display was upside down being the way i mounted the heater. A slight "mod" is needed to be done tho. I simply notched the case so the lcd holder would fit in since they made it to have a notch on the one corner and only go in one way.. I'm still thinking about extending the cable about 5 foot so i can put it inside the vehicle.
I had a look at the cable to see if it can extend. It's easy enough. They look great machines and built well.
What if the exhaust leaks?
What we did there wasn't a permanent setup. We both have heaters in our vans so couldn't show the perfect set up. Ideally you would put the heater outside the van and duct the heat inside. We have posted on our community page please see that post and photo. But thank you for noticing and making a comment.
Well the cheapest one i found was £280 !!! My Chinese diesel heater was £95
Did you fit it ? I checked what fitted costs was for one to be fitted £450 mate. It's OK if you can fit one but a lot can't.
Thank you for the wonderful video. You mentioned that N2 model controller shows the fuel level inside the tank. I wonder if the N2-T controller shows the fuel level as well? We'd appreciate if you folks look into that. Thanks.
The n2-t monitor doesn't tell you how much fuel is left in the tank, however there is a little window gauge on the front of the n2-t unit, similar to the gauge you have on a traditional electric kettle . Hopefully that makes sense.
i see you hooked the battery up directly to the diesel heater, you dont need a fuse between them?
they usually come with a fuse built into the power lead , at least the ones I have bought did, if not then fit a suitable rated fuse .
@@uptowndisco2 thank you
i have a 1000 jackery and this looks like a great idea. i cant find the discount code so please could you advise( yeah i know im useless!) . how long would this heater last on my jackery do u think?( roughly) thankyou! lovely to watch a normal video too! ty!
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At a guess it should easy last a long weekend ( 3 days ) maybe longer. I think the little Jackery said 7 to 9 hours if I remember correctly. We do say in the video.
Can’t afford one so I just wrap up for the winter, great idea though
No air intake?
Yes it's built inside the unit.
Maybe good idea to have exhaust pipe as low as possible to prevent condensation flowing back
Yes, that would be wise.
Yes I love the eater, you said u needed some longer Ooo’s to run it properly from outside. I have some you can have. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Hopefully that’s enough.
Haha Toasty. 😄
Maybe I should do all the translations .
Sioux. ❤️
Carry an extra glow plug kit.
Some have a C01 detector that will shut down the unit.
As others have mentioned, these are no different to the all in one Chinese diesel heaters available and delivered for £85. A Bluetooth version for a little over £100.
The muffler, air intake filter, fuel line and fuel pump can all be upgraded to make them a better product. You can also very cheaply set up a thermostat.
I wouldn’t have shown this setup as it is thoroughly unsafe, at best it will ruin the heater eventually through acidic condensation running back towards the heater - that’s if you survive long enough.
It’s not simply a hole in the floor that’s required. Exhausts passing through a camper floor become extremely hot at the point of exit and needs a heat sink or metal plate to disperse the heat radiating from the exhaust pipe enough not to create a fire risk.
They are nice looking units but nothing that warrants the extra cost imo.
Where do I get a totally silent fuel pump ? I've tried to quite my own pump but failed. I've had friends by the so called low noise pumps on Ebay and amazon but these still make noise.
I would have thought it was common sense obvious we are not going to drive around with an exhaust pipe out the window and a diesel heater on the front seat. But if it was, then I can assure you, we don't intend keeping it like this. We both have fitted heaters.
Hi good vids but i have had a very similar all in one chinese heater i payed £74 4 years ago and just changed the glow plug they are still available from £80
Yes I paid £90 for mine, but it does make a pulsing blink blink blink 😳 that does become irritating
Point of exit from main body exhaust gets extremly hot, so sitting ontop of the plastic centre console not a good idea. Exhaust fumes would be my big worry as well. Properly sealed and vented out from fire proof exit in floor would be the only way.
We said this was temporary to show people, also the main console doesn't get hot at all.
@@Roadshome I believe you have misread what im saying im talking about what the heater is sitting on between the seats looks like a plastic centre console ( even for a short period of time not a good idea ) as the start of the exhaust outlet gets extremly hot. I know you have set it up on a temp basis. However no point in setting up in a way that it would never work imho. Yes I have something similar and the Main unit casing doesnt get that hot.
Yes we misunderstood what you was trying to point out. What you can't see is the plastic drops down about 2.5 inch so has reasonable clearance and didn't get hot. I said to a few people the safest way is to site the heater outside, chained to a wheel and heat ducted in. I just didn't have any ducting to show the heater running like this and the company wanted to see the heater in use. Some viewers have even thought we would leave the exhaust out the window while driving. 😆 we aren't I can assure you.
It's good people like yourself have pointed issues like this out, thanks as it gives other the opportunity to read your concerns.
You go on about Chinese not having thermostat but this is exactly the same??? Then you say that a diesel heater can’t turn off so it’s constantly running like Chinese.
On my Chinese If it’s too hot just put it on lowest in Alpine mode and it’s fine, roof vent open a bit, no problem and it was 65 quid!
If your happy with what you have it's all good steve. The N2 T turns the heat up and down by adjusting the fuel mix to adjust the temperature using less fuel. You have to open and close a roof vent wasting fuel. You got a tapping noise, N2 no noise. I get sent the product to show what's available and it's features.
There's some confusion on the LF Bros' descriptions on Amz for their different heaters.
For the N2-T is says NO thermostat, but for the N2-T Pro it does say thermostat.
Yet in your video, it appears that you are adjusting the temperature!
And you do mention about the unit not turning off completely, but pulses the dosing pump slower, which is interesting and does make sense for a non-thermostatically controlled unit.
So now I wonder if the "Pro" unit that claims "thermostat" goes actually go through the entire shutdown and startup routines to meet the thermostat's setting.... hmmmm...
I am aware that most with no real thermostat do just slowly cycle as mentioned but ones with an actual thermostat do go through full shut down and startup cycles.
So this is very interesting.
It's videos like this that really help people do research to find the best units for their needs!
Thank you for that!
The N2 T definitely lowers the heat once the temperature reaches it set level. Once the temperature drops it then puts fuel back into the heater the and heat output goes up again. The fan also slows and increases to raise and lower the output temperature. The lcd also has 2 modes, normal heater and a temperature setting. If on normal the cycle doesn't change. You just get 24/7 heat. On temperature the cycle goes into lower highter output cycle. Hope that helps. I'm going to open this until and see what makes that pump so quiet after Christmas. Keep an eye out for that.
@@Roadshome On that white one with the LCD on top, it looks like there's a spot to put a finger and maybe lift it out.
Does it in fact lift out on a wire to use like the N2-T has?
Just curious.
@BlondieHappyGuy it does lift out about 6" of wire. It's so short I almost pulled it out of it's connection. It could be made longer I guess.
It's still a chinese heater, the company hq and manufacturing is in china, just better quality and upgraded quiet pump, which is why the price is much higher than the cheaper chinese heaters. Took mine on a couple trips this winter so far and most efficient set up is to keep it inside as it will draw less battery and use way less fuel. My wife did use it to dry her hair after our showers too. Good video.
My Vevor diesel heater has a thermostat and is going off at temperature and goes on If the temperature drops 2 degrees.
Works nice!
125 Euro😁
Did you make the thermostat ? Or come with it ?
It would be good to have a look inside the unit to see if it uses the cheaper green or clear plastic fuel lines: i normally change them out and I do like like the exhaust position at the side of the unit.
I would still probably fit a heater in the van with air and exhaust vented through the floor via a turret plate, which I think is a much safer arrangement and at the same time change out the fuel pump for a ultra quiet one, about £14. J
I'm going to open it at some point. I want to see how the pump doesn't make any sound.
We have a teuma heater so was never permanent
outside only but a better way of ducting the hot air in is the way to go the exhaust pipe is a big no no
I purchased 2 or the awsome Hcalory toolbox heaters with Bluetooth for the price of the LF Bros.
Ya but the HCalory is not nearly the build quality of the LF Bros products. The Burner and Needle and other internal components are Japanese and far better quality than HCalory. But the HCalory is a tad better than a Vevor.
there is a video of run time on youtube its 8 lts lasts 50 hours they have tweaked them over the last 12 months also there is another all in one just come out 6 lts lasts 50 hours
Why are they so expensive though?
Lots of people have said the same. From what I've seen they are better made. Lots have said but it's still a Chinese heater. Yes it is, but it makes no ticking sound. All the parts are well made. Every other Chinese heater I've seen for a start the jubilee clips are rubbish. These are not. It's like all things in life, you can buy a cheap watch or spend as much as like for a high quality one. They both tell the time but are not the same.
is it loud?
No pump noise at all. Just fan noise. In a bit I will open it us and see what pump is on it.
I have a diesel heater and they are good and economical. The only problem that no-one seems to talk about is if there is a sudden power cut if running off of 240volts etc. Because there is no power to the internal fan it overheats and smoke billows out of it and deffo a hazard. Bear this in mind. They should have a ups built in to them.
It also blows the heat sensor if you have a sudden power loss. But yes another good reason to site the heater outside the van and duct the heat vent in.
Your install seems problematic on your exhausting…..btw I have one of these and they are brilliant….
It wasn't a permanent fixture. As I've said to others driving around with an exhaust out the window should have made it obvious. Myself and Sioux have lpg truma heaters as we said in the review.
We needed to demonstrate how the heater worked for LF Bros. They are very well made, and I think a lot of people don't appreciate this when they say I bought a much cheaper one of Ebay.
Nice device. I’ve one on the way, however, I can’t see where the fresh combustion air intake hose is? It needs its own oxygen from outside, not inside- we need that air to breathe. We also don’t want the risk of any carbon monoxide building up inside.
Yes I plan a follow up video cos some of my subscribers have brought up some important things I want to share. The power of comments sharing knowledge is good and helps us all.
Air intake for engine is on the inside, that's OK as it only feeds the diesel/air mix. The fan air is on the back of the unit so will use the air from the area you site the heater. If its inside it helps increase heat. If it's outside the van the heat produced will be a little cooler and maybe use more diesel.
@ thanks for responding. It’s arrived. Yikes! On another RUclips, I thought I saw an intake to connect a pipe going out externally to the fresh air at the bottom of the heater- but it seems to go to a vent, which would just take air from the van. Quite honestly, I think these are made for using outside.
These can be used in either situation. Inside or out. If you want to site it outside the best possible set up would be to sit the heater next to your wheel. And chain it. So you don't lose it.
Then buy probably 6m of silicone ducting. 3m for intake 3m for heat output. It's not cheap but it's fantastic compared to what you get. You can also get cheaper ducting. I'll post links to both. Then duct both intake and outtake vents on the heating into the van through a window. You can use 3mm ply to cover the window gap and cut a hole for the duct to fit. This way the heater and exhaust is outside. The heat is only circulating so not using oxygen. The oxygen intake is built within the heater. I'll try to find a video that explains what I mean. I would have liked to explain this in my video but I didn't have enough ducting.
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@@Roadshome I regret to learn and conclude that the heater is unsafe for inside use, as the combustion air intake draws air from inside rather than outside, risking oxygen depletion and carbon monoxide exposure. These will be safe used outside, however I don’t want an external heater. Unfortunately there is a no return policy for these heaters, so I will be contacting Amazon tomorrow to start a claim.
Hi there. Ive just bought this off amazon using your code. I was wondering if you could help. Its just arrived but Im finding it difficult to fix the exhaust to the main heater body. Is it a really tight fit that needs forcing. I dont want to force it and damage it, but the fixing doesnt seem big enough to fit. What did you do or was yours an easy fix?
You should have a small piece of tube that joins the main body to exhaust.
It goes inside main body and inside exhaust.
@Roadshome we do have but it doesn't fit inside.
@edmundbrelsford624 It should fit. Mine was tight. I would use something to flare out the edge a bit. Wooden spoon handle or hand broom might work. The metal is thin so will shape easy.
@@Roadshome I'll try this tomorrow. Thanks, just didn't want to damage it.
It's all sorted now
Thanks👍
i would add if you fit one to a boat it will not pass a boat safety cert. if caught by crt using one they have been removing them, a reason to not use these all in one units inside a van is the exhaust and combustion needs to both be outside as per the instructions this is brother do leak over time. they are fine for a draughty workshop but that’s it. these heaters run like all others much cleaner on kerosene you will struggle to get red diesel any more. on boats can get it still but that’s being phased out by a few marinas now.
Wasn't aware boats had issues with them fitted. Will look into it.
Price, price, price approx.
Yes good point. But you do get a silent pump. And I mean totally silent. All parts are good quality. But yes the price.
@@Roadshome how do you know all parts are good quality? You have stated in the comments you haven't opened it up so don't know what's inside? Personally I think you've done the company that has given you these no favours in making this video. Just look at the comments everyone is saying how dangerous your set us was. Hopefully the manufacturers contact you and tell you to remove this video before some idiot sets it up like you did and ends up dead!
So it's £300.00 MORE than the Vevor one, that's a massive price increase
You could also buy a timex watch for £40 or a Rolex for £40,000. Both tell the time. Unfortunately I don't have any control on price.
HEY , you are giving out INCORRECT information regarding the LF Bros units , like the Green Plateau and other models with the T in the model number.
It is NOT for Thermostat. It does not have a " thermostat " !!
The T is for Timer , the models with a T have the new series Control Panels with a TIMER to turn them On and Off at Preset Times and Days.
Sorry to Tell You.
But your description was incorrect.
Thanks. 🙏
Great heaters, but not for vans .. the safety side would be no good.
That's a accident wanting to happen and your demo is madness
You do realise it's to show the heater working. Driving around with an exhaust out the window and diesel between the front seats was never going to be permanent, and that's why everyone should watch all the video and not skip.
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I wouldn't buy it,the extra features over a basic all in one don't justify the price for me,a better video would have been for you to take the cover off it and expose what pump was used.
I can't do that a present time. We were given them for review and it would be whole unfair. But yes I'm very curious and have looked to see what keeps the case together 😆 who know what the future will bring. A few people have said you can buy low noise pumps. But I've heard these low noise. They make noise. These Bros pumps really are silent as far as pump goes. I'm thinking they are electric fed and not mechanical. Give me a month or so. 😉
Standalone heaters should not be installed in vans. The exhaust connection will be inside the van and could potentially leak. Very dangerous and should not be promoted to use in this way.
There seems to be a difference of opinion on this thought youtube. Plenty of people fitted heaters inside workshops/houses, and just as many fitted them outside. As for in Camper, vans there is a difference from poorly fitted and maintained to well fitted. It comes down to common sense in the long run. If done correctly, it's not a problem. Like everything in life, it's when it's done wrong, there's a problem.
Not a chance I would have an exhaust connection in the van , even with a clip and exhaust seal . Far too risky. Buy £70 standard heater and use a turret . This means all connections are outside the van through the floor. Life is valuable. You only get one !
Nope....ok if it's free....
i run 2 8kw in my shop much cheaper then eletric
be carefull with the glass that pipe get well hot
There is a reason you shouldn’t use all in one diesel heaters inside a van (or any enclosed space) - if the exhaust should split or crack at any point along the pipe or the connection at the bottom of the unit comes loose at all you will get CO fumes inside and could cause death.
There are a few deaths each year from this.
Do the instructions mention this at all?
@Freedom-projects the same would happen to any fixed diesel heater if it leaked at the turrent. A lot of people don't even fit a turrent and install them straight through the floor. Cutting a hole the size for exhaust and air intake together. That's even worse.
@ it’s really not, with a turret the connection is outside as you seal the turret to the floor and if you cut the holes properly without a turret the connections SHOULD be outside. The connection on this unit is OBVIOUSLY inside so not safe.
Look it up and see for yourself. Or just look at the exhaust outlet and where the connection is
@Freedom-projects yes I can see what your saying, with a turrent. But having fitted my heater with a turrent i can still see a small potential for a leak of fumes if it cracks. Also as i say not everyone uses a turrent if they have a metal floor, And that's pretty much as bad as running the exhaust out the window or door. With an all in one heater it's far safer to have the whole heater outside and duct the heat into the van through a window like you would a hot tent. I just didn't have enough ducting to show this well enough. For us we have lpg truma heaters, and the diesels are a back up. So ours as I say are not staying as we showed it running. Although with a carbon monoxide alarm near the by i wouldn't have a issue for a few nights emergency use. Even our lpg truma has the exhaust inside the van with high risk of leaks if they develop. My unit is fitted behind the seats with no way of me checking for any leaks. I just have to trust the company did a good job 😆 not encouraging when you know the van was built in Portugal.
The 'additional' functions don't justify the trebling of price.....! Talk about sucking up to a manufacturer for freebies......
I wasnt given a cheap vs expensive heater to review so how is that sucking up ? I've reviewed the heater i was given. Said what it can do, what's different from a cheap heater. If I thought it was crap and didn't work I wouldn't have reviewed it. If someone wants to send me a cheap and expensive heater and ask me what's better value I'd be happy to review them and give my thoughts.
Exhaust hose is way to short, no temp adjustment, either on or off, weight?, exhaust out a window will leak-Bottom line there are a lot better ones out there! And surely won’t heat a garage!
The exhaust that comes with the until is stand heater length. You can buy other length to fit your needs. There is adjustment for temperature from high to low about 12 settings and yes it will easy heat a garage even on low heat once it's warmed.
We are obviously not going to drive around with an exhaust out the window. We thought that would be obvious to everyone, it was to show the heater working for the video.
Totally not safe for a van the point the heater joins the exhaust will be inside the van, if it leaks you don’t wake up simple.
Plus the heaters will be made in China, nothing wrong with that though most of them are good quality heaters ( just like most of the electrical products in your house from China)
Whether the exhaust leaks or not comes down to how it is fitted. If fitted correctly, it won't leak. There's no difference in saying your van will kill you if you don't drive it correctly. Probably more of a risk actually than the heater, actually. There are plenty of people with these heaters inside workshops, garage vans, etc. I know you mean well Stephen, and I'm sure people will read your comments and take them on board. Cheers
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Your opinion.
Looks a nightmare Just buy a unit on its own for £120 and get it fitted Only wey slightly more and no future hastle .moving it in and out of van. . Plus it wont get stollenand not sure how well it will stand up to snow and rain.
If you can live with the tapping from a cheap heater no problem. But for a lot of people they can't fit a £120 heater. Fitting is around £450 (liam blacks price ) that I think is good value. So that's £570 plus travel costs there and back a lot more than a LF Bros. If it's for a workshop then it won't need moving. So is a good deal.
Agree but not at that price . I have two of these i aii in one ubits n my workshop / garage Paid about £110 each and they work fine. Exhausts through wall outside. They are great but the palarva of settig up a heater everytime you stop is just in my opinion crazy. What do you do if it is chucking it down with rain or snow. Exactly the time you want the heating . Sometime you just have to pay a bit more and have a hasstle free time.
@Martin37vg sioux has a truma heater that runs on lpg. So it's a back up as a just in case. I did say this towards the end, some people assumed we was going to drive with it in place also 😆 but no, I wish I had more ducting to explain a outside the van set up, as that's safer.
So does nothing better than normal all in one chinese heater but does it more dangerously if used internally at more than 4 times the price. Free sh*t is the killer of integrity.
It's not the heater that's dangerous. It's the person using it. Most of the time, human error. In the wrong hands, an eating fork is dangerous.
£339! Not cheap for yet another chinese heater! Looks like a vevor copy (or the other way around).
I know what your saying, but it is well made, all the parts are good quality. Baffles are real baffles. Jubilee clips work too. But yes still expensive.
Setting these up in a van is asking for trouble the potential for carbon monoxide poisoning from leaky exhaust is extremely high please don’t do this
That's like saying your solar might fall off and a lot of people do say that. . Yes it might, but it's up to us the user to check. And ensure it doesn't. If you put food on the cooker and don't check on it, there's a risk. I know what your saying, and there is good argument for both sides. If a person isn't confident to fit the exhaust properly then they should use the heater outside like I showed and duct heat from outside.
@ the way you showed your set up would point to a lot of moving and manipulating of an already vulnerable exhaust which when repeatedly heated,cooled and moved will become more susceptible to leaks
It was a temporary set up.
There is a big safety issue with having a self contained diesel heater inside a van. If the connection to the exhaust port leaks it will be leaking exhaust fumes and possibly carbon monoxide straight into your living space. Much safer not to have a self contained heater and mount it on a turret to ensure that the exhaust gasses don’t enter your living space. Also the exhaust pipe is going to get very hot especially if you are running the heater at maximum, it could well cause damage to anything that could melt or burn that it comes into contact with. Please remove this video you really don’t want to be recommending people to be having a set up like this as it could have a very bad ending.
Saying the exhaust could leak if you don't fit it correctly is the same as you saying you might crash your van while driving if you don't drive properly. Yes you can. Or if you don't put fuel in the vehicle it will break down. Yes of course the exhaust could leak if you don't check it and ensure it doesn't. It's down to the person fitting the heater as it would be any heater, if it's not fitted correctly you will have a problem. There are loads of people all over the world and on YT with contained heater fitted inside houses workshops garages and vans. It won't be a problem it the owners make sure there isn't a leak. Every diesel heaters exhaust also gets hot, even built in heaters MUST have a adequate size hole for the area around the exhaust not to burn. It's again up to the fitter to make sure it's safe.
It’s not just a case of fitting it incorrectly. There is a lot of vibration in a van the clip connecting the exhaust pipe to the exhaust port of the heater do work lose. There is a reason why a vehicle fails it’s MOT in the UK if it is possible for exhaust gasses to leak into the vehicle from underneath. You should be just as careful with a diesel heater. Considering that a person has recently lost their life I would of thought you would be more careful. What you are advocating people do with a self contained diesel heater is dangerous.
You have just said yourself that a vehicle is tested at MOT for exhaust leaks. As I have said, anyone fitting a diesel heater weather garage fitted, self fitted, built in to the van or a stand alone unit, it's up to the person using it to do so safely. Even a motorhome with a factory fitted truma system can leak and fail. That's why people fit alarms. You can't blame the unit for people poor maintenance and use. I've put in 2 warnings for carbon monoxide and 1 warning for hot exhaust. So I think I've taken safety on board. Thanks for your concerns and comments, people will read them and make a informed decision 👍
It’s a very serious issue and I do believe that you are misguiding people. I will just leave this here and as you say let people make there own mind up.
AI Overview
You should not use a self-contained diesel heater in a van primarily because of the serious risk of carbon monoxide poisoning from its exhaust fumes, which are odorless and colorless, potentially leading to death if not properly vented to the outside; improper installation can also lead to leaks within the van, further increasing the danger.
Key reasons to avoid a self-contained diesel heater in a van:
Carbon monoxide risk:
The biggest concern is the potential for carbon monoxide poisoning due to the exhaust gases produced by the heater, which can be deadly if inhaled in an enclosed space like a van.
For anyone reading this then please do your own research or better still ask a heating engineer.
The same is said about any diesel heater though.
AI Overview
Yes, diesel heaters can be dangerous if not used properly, and can cause carbon monoxide poisoning, fire hazards, and inadequate oxygen levels:
Carbon monoxide poisoning
If there is no ventilation, carbon monoxide can build up in the area where the heater is located.
Fire hazards
Diesel heater exhausts can cause fires if they are not installed correctly.
Inadequate oxygen levels
In enclosed spaces, diesel heaters can lead to inadequate oxygen levels.
Contaminated air
Other sources of contaminated air, such as a leaking engine exhaust or petrol fumes, can be circulated by the heater.
Low-quality heaters
Low-quality diesel heaters can be dangerous and may come with risks like carbon monoxide poisoning.
Here are some tips for using diesel heaters safely:
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What absolute plonkers, you are actually showing people how to commit suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning, or burn themselves alive! People producing content like this should be banned!
You need a check up from the neck up. Go make your own video jealous kn...b
@Roadshome A little knowledge is dangerous in your case, absolute nutters.
@dereksimmons9632 I'm still here messaging you, so who's the nutter. If what you said was correct I wouldn't be. Explain that 😆 you've answered your own trolling.
I am not trolling! But what you set up on this video is so dangerous, in fact it should be promoted as how not to use a diesel heater. This type of heater should never be installed internally. You should take personal responsibility if anyone dies using a heater set up like this.
@dereksimmons9632 what are you talking about ? Do you think we are going to drive around with a 10kg diesel heater in the middle of our seat with an exhaust sticking out the window. You have not watched the whole video. You have skipped through so you can criticise and make ridiculouscomments. Did you not hear the part we say it's being put in a cupboard. As a back up. Or the part we say we have a truma heater fitted ? Can I suggest you watch the video before jumping to conclusions.
Yeah never install these in a van definitely dangerous ok if the unit is outside and the hot air pipe lead onto a tent or van but installed in a van is a definite NO really bad advice to even suggest it should be installed in a van
Plenty people on youtube have installed diesel heaters inside workships, houses vans garages etc. No issues. What your saying is if done wrong it's dangerous. There is room for error in everything. Even cooking in a van could be dangerous. Let's face it, getting out your van could also be dangerous 😳 if done badly.
Im not going to argue with you about it your right everything is dangerous is done incorrectly but fact of the matter is these are not ment to be installed inside a vehicle or a building the unit should be outside so to suggest it is a good idea to install in a van and put the exhaust out the window is just bad advice review products fine but dont give dangerous advice..... The fact is the exhaust and the air intake for the combustion should not be in anyway inside at all these units are designed to be external... I wouldn't give advice on steping out my vehicle onto a live lane on a motorway if your car brakes down but you can do it its just really bad to advise it as a good thing 🙄