@provenpowercycles - Thank you for the honest review! These days, it's sort of tough telling which shop does/doesn't know what they are doing...you guys get a big thumbs up from me. Glad you like our work, we try hard to get it right😁 Tell your friends and customers.!! - Sincerely, Brock Davidson (Owner, Brock's Performance) #stupidfast
@@BrockDavidson thank you for the good words 🙌 we appreciate the consistency of your product line and the parts you guys are producing! Thanks for being a huge inspiration to us smaller shops out there 💪
@@provenpowercycles Brock's Performance officially started in my garage in 2002..it was a one-man "side gig" until then as I tried to make money to fuel my go fast addiction. Keep up the hard work, it pays off in the long run.
That was a cool, honest video. My bike is the one on the Moore Mafia Brock’s Cams video and it made 191 hp on pump gas that had been sitting in the tank 5 months. My 1000 made 184.5 hp on pump gas that had also been sitting in the tank 5 months. They both probably would have at least made a couple more horses with fresh gas. I stopped riding my sport bikes after I bought a ‘23 Road Glide Special in October ‘23 and a ‘24 CVO Road Glide ST in March of ‘24. My bike has a Brock’s CT exhaust that’s meant for a Gen 2, I used HTP Velocity Stacks, and I have World Wide Ceramic Wheel Bearings. The cams made a huge difference all around and my rev limiter doesn’t kick in now until around 11,800 and it puts like a rocket ship all the way to that point. I would highly recommend the Brock’s Cams to anyone with a Gen 3 or considering purchasing a Gen 3. A lot of people are disappointed with the Gen 3’s performance; well here’s the fix.
Love the fact you was honest and said other shops post dyno graphs and not actual every last mod that’s on bike set up lol but honestly dyno number is just dyno number easy way to tell if you got your moneys worth is a drag slip ticket or a dragy
I tuned the GSXRs back in the day the hard way with carb jetting. If the customer George is willing to pay for it, you should do another dyno pull the next time he has 500 mile cams break in. Than shim the intake valves to exactly 0.05mm and exhaust valves to exactly .10mm. Run the busa on the dyno after exact valve adjustment should pick up an extra 2 to 5 HP. I would love to see a follow video to see if I'm correct. This is how I did all customer bikes, but I was fully stocked up on the shims and was all about extracting maximum power what while maintaining reliability.
Damn it, that was impressive stuff. Cams and a pipe make such a difference. I would wonder, if you would've done a 5-angle valve job on the head? Yes, money for labor, but cheap for parts.
Love the honesty in this video. The new Hayabusas have incredible tuning potential but you’re going to have to spend a bit bigger and bolder to go 210+. Ideally turbo or supercharger. But when this is done they turn into a completely different machine. A Busa with quite conservative tuning options is never going to be that special especially compared to modern litre bikes having 200bhp like it’s no big deal
@@provenpowercycles I know about gen3 potential… I have a gen3 in white/carbon (here in the uk) running 400whp on pump via rotrex supercharger kit, Akra full system and custom short dual exit voodoo zorsts. I want a bit more done to get maybe 430whp and then close as possible to 500whp on race fuel map 🙏🏾
Great job Eric and Lewis Its my loss not being able to make it for the upgraded cams and stacks on my new 25th anniversary Hayabusa.You guys will be doing there's no doubt there when I can get it delivered..
No worries Ron! We spoke to probably 8 different people all in all haha so don't feel too bad. Life happens brother! We still will have a setup waiting on ya whenever you're ready 🙌
Yeah, so you have to go through the expense of cams to come close to gen 2 performance. That's a no-brainer, I'd go out and find the nicest second gen I could. Yeah yeah, the new one has cc, 6 axis imu but it's still essentially the same bike for WAY mo money. I don't know, you can go out and find an awful nice second gen in my neck of the woods for $11-$12k or so.
Aaron(spelling?)/Proven Power, quick question. If this bike was stretched 4 inches, do you think that water/mud/gunk would splash the rider on the back when riding in rainy condition? My second, and last question(2 questions in one statement) is, will the engine last just as long(longevity and reliability) with the Camshafts as it would if left in stock condition and where are you guys located? Thanks buddy...
Yes they do, but the rider will make the most difference between the two when it comes to a race between them. That being said, the 14R does still dominate the Super Stock class for which these cams were designed for racing in.
@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST ugh I know 😫 but you get used to it and roll with it 👍 at the end of the day as long as it is smooth and gained correct amount of hp, then we're good to go 🙌
Great content. Guessing your dyno is a tad heartbreaker. Was expecting closer to 200 tbh. Seen brock made 210 on mr12 but u addressed all the little dyno wizardary😂 still its the before vs after that counts, u cant race a dyno sheet.
Yeah we have had multiple tuners come thru here and rent our dyno out and they all have said my dyno is a heart breaker. Travis Yager (he does a lot of H2 builds), has had to revamp his power numbers on his H2 packages because how low my dyno reads compared to his old dyno back in TN. 😅
We did a brocks system a couple weeks ago at work, had the same issue with the header bolts. Im thinking they just used cheap(er) stainless and overtorqued them...
Have you experienced the hot starting issue with the gen3 hayabusa’s that have been at your shop? When hot they act as if the battery is flat &/or the starter is binding,
@clutchpack1969 yeah' reason I thought this is as the buckets are already worn the new cams bedding in might slightly throw out the gaps? Just me being anal.
An actual head job could yield an additional 10whp or so. Between little tricks thrown at it and some parts swapped out. I'd say around 200whp on pump and 207-210whp on mr12.
Don't understand why people are buying what is essentially gen 2 oem cams. I woukd get the yosh cams, megacyle or webcycle cams that will net more performance
@tomjones3629 overall it's a cheaper option for a decent gain. If we go with bigger set, we would at that point need to pull head and do a little more work thus adding to the bill. We will be coming out with our own grind here soon as an added option to the gen 3 platform 👌 only a matter of time! 🙌
I have the same bike and I want the same set up, just need the time ($) if you know what I mean. And I am very close to you guys, so when I decide to pull the plug it will be with you guys...
If you're going to install a Sprint filter may as well not install anything. You'll have better results with the same amount of dirt ingestion in your precious $18-19K motorcycle. EDIT: Nice #'s, good job. If it were my bike I would have derestricted it and leave it alone. Just for the reliability factor, ease of repair, OEM parts accessibility and higher resale value which on Japanese Sport Bikes (by nature) tend to be dirt low. If I were 20 years youngers I would have done what you just did. But I'm not.😝
I have a concours14 that I'm positive makes alot more then a stock concours14. My 08 with me at 260 walks away from alot bikes including busa. I just get caught on the top end. I'm thinking about building a gen 2 1441 concours14.
@@uberdriver5711 why so fast i run 10.20 1/4 mile mine only get so much out of it need change cam but v v timing is problem what zx 14 does not have for low mid torqe change that get 20+ hp more
@douglasgrosch228 ecu flash can change the timing issue. On mine besides doing that. Alot of gen 1 zx14 parts will work on it. I run sprint air filter, zx14 throttlebodies which are bigger than concours, brocks CT dual for the zx14. Just these things make it night and day versus a stock one.
@@uberdriver5711 one guy changed to zx 14 cam ive got dual and all upgrades just get it to lobe with that hot cam not mild one in it! they can only do so much on ECU ine got Ivan tune top one in mine just want MORE hp torqe 180+ hp wheels great concours limited either turbo next/ nitrous dont want that got cheers
It’s crazy how 1000cc bikes nowadays make close to 200 hp with almost nothing in comparison with the Hayabusa numbers with all those mods. Still cool anyway.
Drop the motor, install high ratio 5th n 6th gear & low ratio 1st gear & up 1 tooth on the front sprocket with new shift forks. Install 72mm stroker crank, -2mm Carillo conrods, 84mm bore cylinder block, billet cnc ported head with 2mm o/size intake n exhaust valves. .415/.377 Web Cams & Akrapovic Race Exhaust & your good to go. After running a 1580cc Gen2 for a few years, that stroker motor torque is the only way to go on the highway.
3500 or more spent and it still makes less then a stock zx14. Smh. Not to mention the bike cost more itself. He should have just put a turbo on it. Kaw winning again. Only thing i like about the busa better is the color schemes.
Lol. Kawasaki have just been releasing the same bike for the last 20 years. Very sad that they take advantage of their customers like this. If you’re judging these bikes on power then your argument is already flawed.
Actually, we have done quite a few of these if you search our RUclips channel. This is one we're doing cams on with the stacks. We aren't doing this for us. We are doing it to help inform other people out there who don't know what these bikes put out or are capable of with a few minor mods. 👍
@@ryanhale8013to be fair, these vids are still helpful because 99% of busa owners can’t afford the turbo/supercharger conversions. It’s not realistic for most. Late to the party, early to the party, who cares. As long as people share more and more helpful content we should appreciate it 👌🏾
No way is the cost of everything justified for 20 horsepower, people WASTE so much money on silliness, ive got a 23 Hayabusa, a few tweeks to the stock components, exhaust, airbox, velocity stacks, and fueling and timing, and the numbers are where they should be. These bikes don't need all that miscellaneous stuff thats making people rich and tricking people into believing something amazing just happened to their bike 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂 someone who has a thorough understanding of the components i spoke about earlier and how to utilize such info knows you don't need to waste your money.but to each their own i guess
@provenpowercycles - Thank you for the honest review! These days, it's sort of tough telling which shop does/doesn't know what they are doing...you guys get a big thumbs up from me. Glad you like our work, we try hard to get it right😁 Tell your friends and customers.!! - Sincerely, Brock Davidson (Owner, Brock's Performance) #stupidfast
@@BrockDavidson thank you for the good words 🙌 we appreciate the consistency of your product line and the parts you guys are producing! Thanks for being a huge inspiration to us smaller shops out there 💪
@@provenpowercycles Brock's Performance officially started in my garage in 2002..it was a one-man "side gig" until then as I tried to make money to fuel my go fast addiction. Keep up the hard work, it pays off in the long run.
Yessir! I appreciate it 🙏
That was a cool, honest video. My bike is the one on the Moore Mafia Brock’s Cams video and it made 191 hp on pump gas that had been sitting in the tank 5 months. My 1000 made 184.5 hp on pump gas that had also been sitting in the tank 5 months. They both probably would have at least made a couple more horses with fresh gas. I stopped riding my sport bikes after I bought a ‘23 Road Glide Special in October ‘23 and a ‘24 CVO Road Glide ST in March of ‘24. My bike has a Brock’s CT exhaust that’s meant for a Gen 2, I used HTP Velocity Stacks, and I have World Wide Ceramic Wheel Bearings. The cams made a huge difference all around and my rev limiter doesn’t kick in now until around 11,800 and it puts like a rocket ship all the way to that point. I would highly recommend the Brock’s Cams to anyone with a Gen 3 or considering purchasing a Gen 3. A lot of people are disappointed with the Gen 3’s performance; well here’s the fix.
Love the fact you was honest and said other shops post dyno graphs and not actual every last mod that’s on bike set up lol but honestly dyno number is just dyno number easy way to tell if you got your moneys worth is a drag slip ticket or a dragy
Couldn't agree more 💪
The only color busa I would buy. My old fz-09 was orange and you could see the gold flake in the sun. truly beautiful.
Really good gains and no loss ! The amount of smooth torque 4k to 8k will be great to use on the road.
That cold start 👀😈
Nice work, hope to see you guys soon
GREAT VIDEO. My GEN 3 will be seeing ya'll very soon.
Yessir 👍 if you have any questions, you can check us out at www.provenpowercycles.com
Or give us a shout at 727-256-0001 🙌
TechSpec tank grips for the win!
I tuned the GSXRs back in the day the hard way with carb jetting. If the customer George is willing to pay for it, you should do another dyno pull the next time he has 500 mile cams break in. Than shim the intake valves to exactly 0.05mm and exhaust valves to exactly .10mm. Run the busa on the dyno after exact valve adjustment should pick up an extra 2 to 5 HP. I would love to see a follow video to see if I'm correct. This is how I did all customer bikes, but I was fully stocked up on the shims and was all about extracting maximum power what while maintaining reliability.
My exact dream bike with almost the exact mods i would select as well. Give me a moment to pick my jaw up off the floor😂🔥
These bikes are pretty dope once you do a little work to them 💪💪
Damn it, that was impressive stuff. Cams and a pipe make such a difference. I would wonder, if you would've done a 5-angle valve job on the head? Yes, money for labor, but cheap for parts.
@@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 we are going to experiment with a few more of them soon! We have some cams we want to try out for over 200whp!
Love the honesty in this video. The new Hayabusas have incredible tuning potential but you’re going to have to spend a bit bigger and bolder to go 210+. Ideally turbo or supercharger. But when this is done they turn into a completely different machine. A Busa with quite conservative tuning options is never going to be that special especially compared to modern litre bikes having 200bhp like it’s no big deal
@@OneUnit10101 we have tuned some now that make over 220whp on pump with just head work! 😳 they have huge potential ! 💪💪
@@provenpowercycles I know about gen3 potential… I have a gen3 in white/carbon (here in the uk) running 400whp on pump via rotrex supercharger kit, Akra full system and custom short dual exit voodoo zorsts. I want a bit more done to get maybe 430whp and then close as possible to 500whp on race fuel map 🙏🏾
Great video bro
Appreciate it 🙏
Really enjoying your videos. Thanks for the content
Appreciate it Tim 💪
The bent header bolt thing is pretty common on gen 3.
Great job Eric and Lewis Its my loss not being able to make it for the upgraded cams and stacks on my new 25th anniversary Hayabusa.You guys will be doing there's no doubt there when I can get it delivered..
No worries Ron! We spoke to probably 8 different people all in all haha so don't feel too bad. Life happens brother! We still will have a setup waiting on ya whenever you're ready 🙌
The orange color❤😊
Yeah, so you have to go through the expense of cams to come close to gen 2 performance. That's a no-brainer, I'd go out and find the nicest second gen I could. Yeah yeah, the new one has cc, 6 axis imu but it's still essentially the same bike for WAY mo money. I don't know, you can go out and find an awful nice second gen in my neck of the woods for $11-$12k or so.
Amen!!
When I put my M4 exhaust on my gen 3, the stock header bolts were bent just like the ones in the video. Crazy stuff.
That's wild 😳 never seen that before on an oem setup.
Aaron(spelling?)/Proven Power, quick question. If this bike was stretched 4 inches, do you think that water/mud/gunk would splash the rider on the back when riding in rainy condition? My second, and last question(2 questions in one statement) is, will the engine last just as long(longevity and reliability) with the Camshafts as it would if left in stock condition and where are you guys located? Thanks buddy...
So the 14 has more hp than a busa with all this stuff?
Yes, 1441 vs 1340. So duh
Yes they do. But this is still at least a good start to waking these gen 3s up!
Yes they do, but the rider will make the most difference between the two when it comes to a race between them. That being said, the 14R does still dominate the Super Stock class for which these cams were designed for racing in.
Yes.
@@Uscfan8510I’m wondering when the 1340 came to what you say is a 1441 the math isn’t mathing.
Stick a 2teeth less rear sprocket on it
the bent header bolts are a know problem I have a 23 Busa when I put new exhaust on mine had the samething lol
I'm just guessing but it's probably from the high heat and the heavy stock exhaust and not using hard enough metal to support both issues.
@@DJ_Driven yea tha is prob it
That's the heart-breakiest heart-breaker dyno I've ever seen, ha-ha!
@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST ugh I know 😫 but you get used to it and roll with it 👍 at the end of the day as long as it is smooth and gained correct amount of hp, then we're good to go 🙌
Great content. Guessing your dyno is a tad heartbreaker. Was expecting closer to 200 tbh. Seen brock made 210 on mr12 but u addressed all the little dyno wizardary😂 still its the before vs after that counts, u cant race a dyno sheet.
Yeah we have had multiple tuners come thru here and rent our dyno out and they all have said my dyno is a heart breaker.
Travis Yager (he does a lot of H2 builds), has had to revamp his power numbers on his H2 packages because how low my dyno reads compared to his old dyno back in TN. 😅
We did a brocks system a couple weeks ago at work, had the same issue with the header bolts. Im thinking they just used cheap(er) stainless and overtorqued them...
Just crazy. We've done a few exhausts on them but never ran into that issue with the 2022/2023 models.
@@provenpowercycles maybe its just the 24s? I dont recall seeing that before either on anything factory. Farmer special exhaust bolts however... 😂😂😂😂
Have you experienced the hot starting issue with the gen3 hayabusa’s that have been at your shop? When hot they act as if the battery is flat &/or the starter is binding,
199bhp It would be interesting to re-check valve clearances after 500miles
Busa's are pretty solid so it will be fine
@clutchpack1969 yeah' reason I thought this is as the buckets are already worn the new cams bedding in might slightly throw out the gaps? Just me being anal.
Continue you 👏🤝✍️🕊️⚖️🦅. Vlog.
Nice. Approximately how much hp might you expect with a complete head job? How much for a 1K?
An actual head job could yield an additional 10whp or so. Between little tricks thrown at it and some parts swapped out. I'd say around 200whp on pump and 207-210whp on mr12.
@@provenpowercycles Thank you!
Will be at the xda race in buds creek this weekend?
No sir. The zx14r will be soon though. He's got a few more odds and ends to tackle and tweak before going to compete
Don't understand why people are buying what is essentially gen 2 oem cams. I woukd get the yosh cams, megacyle or webcycle cams that will net more performance
@tomjones3629 overall it's a cheaper option for a decent gain. If we go with bigger set, we would at that point need to pull head and do a little more work thus adding to the bill. We will be coming out with our own grind here soon as an added option to the gen 3 platform 👌 only a matter of time! 🙌
@@provenpowercycles you don't need to pull the head for yosh cams, nor the webs or megacyles
I have the same bike and I want the same set up, just need the time ($) if you know what I mean. And I am very close to you guys, so when I decide to pull the plug it will be with you guys...
@@Knolgarcia69 we have a different cam profile we want to try that should get you around 200whp on stock block !
At 8:53 into the video my prediction is... 201.8 hp.✌️
Whats the last little mods you can do to go over 190power you said is it difficult to do?😊
@@marcswinnen9100 we could go with a different cam profile and also chain and sprockets is another good mod to look at for another couple hp 🤙
May as well do a ported head. That's just me...
@@soNso2 ported head, 5angle valve job, and some other tricks while the head is off would pick up some extra ponies for sure.
How do i contact you guys to put the brocks cams, an air filter , pair valve delete an a full exhaust on my 23 new busa? Idc what it costs!
@deliciousgixxer3670 hey man! You can either contact us through our website or call us!
Www.provenpowercycles.com
Or
727-256-0001
@@provenpowercycles done an done :D
Are these parts available for the 14 too?
@@philbrady702 no sir. 14 is a totally different platform with different kinds of mods
If you're going to install a Sprint filter may as well not install anything.
You'll have better results with the same amount of dirt ingestion in your precious $18-19K motorcycle.
EDIT: Nice #'s, good job.
If it were my bike I would have derestricted it and leave it alone.
Just for the reliability factor, ease of repair, OEM parts accessibility and higher resale value which on Japanese Sport Bikes (by nature) tend to be dirt low.
If I were 20 years youngers I would have done what you just did.
But I'm not.😝
can you do a build on concours 14 sleeper zx 14 cam and tricks to get -170 180 RW hp ?? be great for old guys out here thanks
I have a concours14 that I'm positive makes alot more then a stock concours14. My 08 with me at 260 walks away from alot bikes including busa. I just get caught on the top end. I'm thinking about building a gen 2 1441 concours14.
@@uberdriver5711 why so fast i run 10.20 1/4 mile mine only get so much out of it need change cam but v v timing is problem what zx 14 does not have for low mid torqe change that get 20+ hp more
@douglasgrosch228 ecu flash can change the timing issue. On mine besides doing that. Alot of gen 1 zx14 parts will work on it. I run sprint air filter, zx14 throttlebodies which are bigger than concours, brocks CT dual for the zx14. Just these things make it night and day versus a stock one.
Besides you can only change the exhaust I believe due to the vct on the intake.
@@uberdriver5711 one guy changed to zx 14 cam ive got dual and all upgrades just get it to lobe with that hot cam not mild one in it! they can only do so much on ECU ine got Ivan tune top one in mine just want MORE hp torqe 180+ hp wheels great concours limited either turbo next/ nitrous dont want that got cheers
196-210hp
It’s crazy how 1000cc bikes nowadays make close to 200 hp with almost nothing in comparison with the Hayabusa numbers with all those mods. Still cool anyway.
It’s crazy how you don’t understand the busas engine is basically the same since 1999. These bikes have newer engines and technology.
How much $$$ for how much HP ? wow what a waist for just a fuel and a throttle map.
Drop the motor, install high ratio 5th n 6th gear & low ratio 1st gear & up 1 tooth on the front sprocket with new shift forks. Install 72mm stroker crank, -2mm Carillo conrods, 84mm bore cylinder block, billet cnc ported head with 2mm o/size intake n exhaust valves. .415/.377 Web Cams & Akrapovic Race Exhaust & your good to go. After running a 1580cc Gen2 for a few years, that stroker motor torque is the only way to go on the highway.
3500 or more spent and it still makes less then a stock zx14. Smh. Not to mention the bike cost more itself. He should have just put a turbo on it. Kaw winning again. Only thing i like about the busa better is the color schemes.
Lol. Kawasaki have just been releasing the same bike for the last 20 years. Very sad that they take advantage of their customers like this. If you’re judging these bikes on power then your argument is already flawed.
Exactly I just plan on turboing mine eventually
There's like 100 guys that dyno a 2024. I think you're a little late on this one....lmfao
Actually, we have done quite a few of these if you search our RUclips channel. This is one we're doing cams on with the stacks. We aren't doing this for us. We are doing it to help inform other people out there who don't know what these bikes put out or are capable of with a few minor mods. 👍
@provenpowercycles Moore mafia has done all that plus turbos and world records. I think you're still late to the game
@@ryanhale8013to be fair, these vids are still helpful because 99% of busa owners can’t afford the turbo/supercharger conversions. It’s not realistic for most. Late to the party, early to the party, who cares. As long as people share more and more helpful content we should appreciate it 👌🏾
@BigBossinStyle if it takes 100 videos for you to get caught up, you might be a Biden voter
@@ryanhale8013 who pissed in your Cheerios today?
No way is the cost of everything justified for 20 horsepower, people WASTE so much money on silliness, ive got a 23 Hayabusa, a few tweeks to the stock components, exhaust, airbox, velocity stacks, and fueling and timing, and the numbers are where they should be. These bikes don't need all that miscellaneous stuff thats making people rich and tricking people into believing something amazing just happened to their bike 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂 someone who has a thorough understanding of the components i spoke about earlier and how to utilize such info knows you don't need to waste your money.but to each their own i guess
You’ve already spent most of the money LMAO
@@jockojockoson9995forreal 😂