Suppose someone offers to give you a lift home....you said ten miles from here....you set off, 10 miles, passenger says nothing, 15..20miles....100miles! Driver says: I thought you said you lived ten miles away? Passenger says, I do, but between the ninth and tenth mile is a distance of 400 miles!! Thats a classic one. Thank you Steve for a great presentation.
My late grandfather was similar to Mr. Gregg as a renowned Bible scholar. They called him the walking Bible. It was definitely a gift that he was given.
Yes, this is the kind of interpretation that one arrives at when one studies for oneself, thinks critically, and sets aside exterior presuppositions which obscure the truth of what scripture says. Bravo.
Actually, the Bible says, There is no 'private interpretation' of the scriptures..." , doesn't it? Clearly, individuals can receive some light or revelation, but there is something called "the preponderance of scripture". That means the way ONE verse is construed needs to go along with all the other verses on a subject. Picking one isolated verse to build a doctrine on, while ignoring many others, is not wise, leads followers to confusion and eventual error. Isaiah teaches us to uncover the truth, "... line upon line, precept upon precept..." Paul says, "These things were not done in a corner." If you find something ANYWHERE in the Bible that makes your theory about what you find somewhere ELSE a little shaky, it's probably time to re figure and continue digging and studying: "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth." (II Timothy 2:15)
@@reyhudson563 A "private interpretation" is one that is made by one who DOESN'T think critically, who HOLDS ON TO exterior presuppositions, and who DOESN'T study for oneself, but listens to other's opinions. An example of this is conflating scriptures to make the time of Jacob's trouble, the seventieth week of Daniel, the wrath of God, the tribulation, the hour of trial all refer to the same seven year time period at the end of history.
Reading your list about what "private interpretation" might be throws a lot of stuff into the kitchen sink. Bible says, "...one believeth he may eat all things; another eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth judge him that eateth not, neither him that eateth not judge him that eateth." (Romans 14) Nobody should be so cock sure about what another guy considers "private interpretation". Bible's a big book! There are MANY concepts and some theories we can't really be sure about. (Jehovah's Witnesses have it all figured out), but the rest of us have take it by faith (and some stuff with a grain of salt.) Some things we CAN be sure of; other things we'll not understand until we're there , with Jesus, face to face. What I believe: (not by isolated scriptures but by a life long of study and gleaning knowledge from VERY reputable teachers as well.) 1. The great tribulation is NOT "the last seven years" but rather the last HALF of those seven years. I believe Jesus, Himself told us this in Matthew 24 when He tells us we should READ what Daniel tells us concerning the abomination of desolation. (Daniel 9:27 and 11:31) He also tells us we should "UNDERSTAND". 2. There are MANY places, throughout the scriptures which point to these events which I have made the basis of my understanding. I like MANY of the teachings of this man (video), however, on this one point, I do not agree. So who's "interpretating privately", he or I? I guess we'll have to work a lot of things out when we get to 'em. Holy Spirit is a teacher and Jesus said He would guide us in all truth, but whoever thinks they know how to hang a horn on EVERY beast, might find out they're mistaken about a couple of things before they GET there.
Wrong, both of you who responded to the original post. Peter was not speaking of how one interprets the written Word, he was talking about the prophets writing what they received from God and not writing from themselves. Read the verse again.... carefully.
Since i've heard Steves teaching before, my favorit part of this video is at the end when the man in the audience says "now that I have to get a spiritual root canal" LOLOL Now that..... is a great description.
What a blessing it is to have these teachings of STeve Gregg, God bless him and those putting all of this together for us to listen and grow in God's Word renewing our minds and souls to be more like Jesus
Awesome 😎 content thank you ! Halfway through I realized I've had Steve Gregg's "4 Views of Revelation" on my shelf for 20 + years now. It's GREAT to hear him preach. Truly, he's forgotten more than I know. But I'm gonna watch & study more to catch up in a hurry. Godspeed, Brothers !
Great teaching. I am a Postmil but have alot in common with your views. I left an Independent Baptist Fundamentalist church a year ago because of the dispensationalism.
This definitely raises some questions as far as our time and what are we to expect eschatologically. But I think what Steve spoke about is damn near irrefutable. I mean, yea you could speculate about assuming the times are symbolic or just not literal and argue for or against that. But still. That would open up having to debate further other points. Like the 70th week ect. I think Steve made an excellent argument for the truth of the revelation and how so many people have it wrong. Again. I still have to ask. Well what about us? What does this mean for us today? But I can’t hold an argument to this. I can’t see how anyone else’s idea that differs could stand to this. Unless they were willing to refute every single point with a better one. And I see that argument falling like a house of cards. Very pleasing lecture. And tbh I could care less as far as my personal views are concerned. I’m not married to theology. I’m not “taken like the wind” by everything I’m told. If it doesn’t add up it doesn’t add up. Like no Jesus came back in 70AD spiritual. Bull. Nonsense. There’s no evidence for that. But if someone provides a lecture like this. With this level of knowledge and biblical backing idc about changing my theology. Hell. Recently I’ve been more of a premillennial, post trib mentality. Because I thought the arguments I heard for it were better than a lot of other views. But listening to this and other of Steve’s lectures has definitely changed my mind some. And I’m not upset by it in the slightest because I want truth and knowledge. Idc about about “being right”. Great lecture. Great objective teaching and reasoning. It’s gunna be a shame when a pre trib rapture doesn’t happen and people lose their mind. Especially because people think the church is too valuable to endure some horrific tribulation. As if the beheaded and crucified apostles were less valuable than Emily and justin in California who post superficial status about faith and the rapture on ig and how God wouldn’t let them go through that. Obviously I’m speaking hypothetically. But it’s the truth. People think we’re too special. Yet the apostles were beheaded and crucified. We’re the Israelites raptured out of Egypt? No. Did they suffer the plagues. Also no. They were protected. Why people think it would be any different now I don’t understand. So i definitely do not believe in pre trib rapture. I believe it is at the second coming. Now of course that opens up the argument about if the church is raptured to the sky to meet the lord and rerun to the earth with him than what would be the w point of then separating the sheep and the goats. But when you look at the wording of that parable. It becomes clear that parable is widely misunderstood. Read it carefully. You’ll see what I’m talking about. As for the millennium. Idk. I’m not sure exactly where I stand on that. But I am definitely loving Steve’s teachings and how objective he is. I think to many people want their theology to be right. Rather than trying to figure out what theology is right and adapting to it. Which is what I try to do. Again not being carried away by every passing teaching but when a certain idea or theology better explains something than another and has credible biblical reasoning I think it’s irresponsible not to adapt or evolve to that. I think it’s equally irresponsible to be carried away by every passing teaching with no solid reasoning as it is to be so married to a theology that you can’t accept if something better comes and pokes a bunch of holes in yours. I think the responsible thing is to seek the most educated and biblical solid theology and that it’s a journey that requires evolution and adaptation in our part. We must be willing to adapt to better more biblical understandings and theologies. And this is definitely on that path. Love it.
I have been preaching almost everything he said with nobody to collaborate it, so it was very good to hear this. If I could add one thing I have been preaching is the 70 weeks was a time of God's covenant with the Israeli people. When the church began it was entirely Jewish. Where things changed was God sent an angel to a man from Roman centurion of the Italian band. Peter went to him in Acts 10 and a gentile, not a Jewish proselyte received the Holy Ghost. That changed the covenant from Jewish to universal. Up to then salvation was of the Jews, you had to become a proselyte. Now the Jew must become a Christian to be saved. There is no Jewish covenant today, nor will be again. Everything is in Jesus.
Thank you, brother!!! Just to add to what you went over, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8 expounds on the verse in 1 Thessalonians 4. On the day of the Lord, we will be caught up in the twinkling of an eye. Then, in second Thessalonians, it says the day of the Lord will not come until the apostasy, and the revealing of the sun of perdition, happens first. So clearly that tells us that we will not be taken up until the fall away, and the antichrist is revealed. Further pointing out that there’s no pre-trib rapture🤗♥️🤗 Thanks for all your content on this channel!! So glad my hubby found you!
Steve I want to praise our Father for the encouragement I have received through you. I have been so desperate to see that most of the church is fooled by pre trib and I just could not understand why they could not see the answer plainly in scripture???? And in my heart I saw the great danger in that the church would be caught off gaurd and put in a position to deny their Lord and take the mark once they realized the tribulation was at hand and that Jesus did not save them before it as they were taught. The Lord jas put a real burden on my heart for this. I want to be able to expose the lies of false doctrine and bring God's children in to truth. Please pray for me. It is so encouraging to see you decisively preaching truth God bless you! Your sermons on divorce and remarriage were a HUGE blessing to me as the enemy tried to accuse me of being in adultery while faithfully married. I must say your teachings on that subject seems to be truly rightly dividing the word. Praise God! My wife was abused and then cheated on and her husband then filed for divorce. She was faithful and waited and prayed for reconciliation and transformation but ultimately was then divorced. I had never been married before. It is so sad to see the devil and even the church twisting the Word of God in order to try to deny beaten and broken souls who were not at fault for grounds of biblical divorce. That is not the heart of God. He is close to the broken hearted and provides them tender mercies! Praise Jesus!
I also have felt the same way. I think the big falling away, the apostacy, the rebellion spoken of in 2 Thessalonians which the Bible says must happen first, before we are gathered up to heaven, could very well be because of the pre-trib teaching. Once those who believed in pre-trib realize that they have been deceived and misled, I think they will become angry and wonder what else they were lied to about. This will cause them of weak faith to fall away and rebel from the faith and the church. God has put this on my heart. But when I share my concerns with them, I am met with a lot of hostility, like how dare I question the teaching or their faith. I guess we shall see. I keep hoping I'm wrong. I am also hoping to learn more so I can learn a way to present truth in a way in which they will hear me. I'm grateful for Steve and others like him
Proving your biblical views through the eyes of the person who doesn't already believe is a powerful enough statement to keep me here through to the end. I'm never convinced that the biblical arguments of a video I'm watching will be considerate of the people who don't already believe, so I'm wary to commit to any of them.
Just as His disciples were encouraged with the Holy Spirit within, so will we be encouraged through any trial or tribulation when we put Jesus Christ above all else, Amen, praise God!
I’m inclined to lean on the teaching of the early church fathers. Pre-trib did not exist. When Darby came out with this ‘teaching’ luminaries like Charles Spurgeon and George Muller denounced him as a heretic. Further, Schofield was a crook who did jail time while promoting their ‘new’ teaching. Look at the origins of pre-trib teaching. Start there…
We are not appointed to wrath. True enough. But when does regular tribulations end, and the wrath of God begin?? If you take an honest look at scripture you will see that the wrath of God doesn't come until after the abomination of desolation happens as spoken of in the book of Daniel and after the persecution of the saints by the antichrist. As far as I can see, the Rapture probably happens after seal 6 but before seal 7. I could be a little off on that last point though. But it's definitely Not pre-trib
Revelation has been being fulfilled since the 300 AD. We’ve been led to believe that all of church history since Jesus came is neglected and everything happens in a 7 yr period right before Jesus returns. John’s vision starts with what shortly will come to pass. If you’d like great easy to understand teachings that great theologians like John Gill, John Knox, Matthew Poole, Albert Barnes, EB Elliott all agreed upon please check out David Nikao Wilcoxson. Great playlists on Daniel, Revelation and the Olivet Discourse. This whole futurist fulfillment of Revelation was created intentionally during the counter reformation. Same w/ the preterist view that everything had already been fulfilled in 70AD. Although that time was much more important than most of us thought that have been taught wrongly. Once I committed to seeing the truth no matter where it led me instead of defending a belief, my entire understanding of Scripture changed. God is good!
@@triciachampine5807 Who is opening the seals though, is it the Lamb of God, or Satan? It is the Lamb of God, and he is the one that starts the tribulation, not satan.
Excellent wonderful teaching!! He describes my experience exactly. There are no scriptures which say the Rapture is pre-trib. The pre-trib uses Scriptures for their interpretation which they are proof texts, but actually only make sense as proof texts if you already believe in the pre-trib point of view. Then the pre-trib people add their opinion to scripture and make logical conclusions from there. This is how they get off point.
@triciachampine- Same for me. Wait til you go (unless you already have)where it will take you if you research futurism/preterism/historicism. I knew that there had to be more deception in the church. When researching Darby, Scofield etc I dug deep and found that the whole future AC, tribulation period, and actually most of what is described in Revelation has been taught wrong intentionally. In the 1500’s Jesuit Francisco Ribera came up with the futurist view. He threw the 70th week of Daniel into the far future as part of the counter reformation. Manuel De Lacunza then introduced the preterist view. The Historicist view was believed by every one of the Reformers. If you look up H. Grattan Guinness he has great books (late 1800’s) It’s amazing what I learned and how incredibly accurate prophecy has been fulfilled.
Actualy the origin of dispensationalism is before Darby. It was written by the jesuit Manuel Lacunza and published under the pen name Juan Josaphat Ben-Ezra, and his publication was titled (in english) "The coming of the Messiah in Majesty and Glory". This was picked up by Edward Irving and translated to english by him in 1827 Edward Irwing was teaching this at the Albury conferences, and there John Darby got in contact with the theories. It was repackaged by Darby in his theosofical magic writings, and this was put in the Scofield reference bible. This whole thing is as all false doctrines iriginated from a jesuit pen. Also the Baron Rothschild financed Scofield, printed the bible in his Oxford Student Press, and financed the free distribution via D.L.Moody Bible institute to all american pastors, bible teachers, bible schools and everywhere. Thereby the King James Bible too got corrupted by Scofields taking in Wescott & Hort notes and Darby doctrines. Part of the dispensationalism uses the futurism invented by the jesuit priest Francisco Ribera. Baron Rothschild that financed Scofield is the same one that the Balfour declaration was styled to. This has all the hallmarks of the mother harlot putting out her daughters into the world.
@@shanemcguire5347 that does absolutely not make the KJV corrupt. However, when people use the invented nonsence as having higher weight than the word itself, we have a problem of cunningly deviced fables by men and possibly doctrines of devils. People who believe dispensationalism do not have any biblical basis for their teachings. It all comes from comments and manmade interpretations, not backed by prophesy nor testimony. There is no light in them, and the bible these comments are added to, is ignored in favour of the interpretations given, sadly.
@shane, no I don’t believe he’s saying the AV KJV is corrupt. Scofield not only had his reference Bible distributed to all seminaries, churches etc but his footnotes are included in different Bibles. His “bible” was responsible for the teachings of the Zionist movement.
Yup. Jesuits which I conclude are actual Jews who are the synagogue of Satan seeking to pervert the way. Also the freemasons belong to this group. All liars.
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I'm with Steve on most of this. I do believe the bible teaches a future time when there's a1000 year reign of Christ on earth and the devil is bound during that time.
Could Jesus have fulfilled the 31/2 years in his earthly ministry, the first half of the 70th week , his sacrifice ended the sacrifice, made a covenant with many, Perhaps Jesus already did these things
Am I wrong, or did John not just write what the Angel revealed to him. He couldn't have been taking into consideration the culture or times? And to think that revelations is past, are you saying we are living in a new world and new heavens now?
Is it possible there are parallel prophecies? Like revelation events already happened in the past but they do foreshadow things thst will happen in the future?
Where would it say that these things have to happen again? If it happens once, as the prophecy foretold, why does one have to look for a future fulfillment?
Absolutely, Biblical Typology is a legitimate help in determining correct doctrine and harmonising scripture. I wonder if Steve comments or teaches on Typology in any of his talks.?
fantastic, Revelation says: time, times and half a time, somehow that is translated to 3.5 years but what if it means something else? a time, a times and half a time (not years but ages) ... I have no issues with some futurism in revelation, the problem is the pre trib dispensationalism, the dual covenant with Jews, the seven years, etc
Steve, I doubt you do, but I subscribe to the historicist view of revelation. I don't have all points and issues within that approach nailed down, but I believe the approach is correct. I fully support your views on the 70 weeks and that tribulation, even the great tribulation are terms related to testing of Christians. But if we see Revelation as a literal history, expressed in symbolic terms, of the time from John's writing to the present and beyond, than those 1st Century churches, and the people who belonged to them, are certainly parts of a story which begins to be told more or less immediately from their time onward, such that I don't think we need to get hung up on the fact that those churches largely no longer exist. They did exist in John's time and, from the historicist perspective, the story of Revelation unfolds from their time onward.
Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return. ================================== Revelation 20: Does your interpretation agree with all other scripture? (Chronological or Recapitulation?) (Literal vs. Figurative?) Based on the following scripture, will immortals and mortals both live on earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ? Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ? Will Christ conduct funeral services for mortals killed in accidents many years after His Second Coming? Graveyards needed? Can the following questions be examined without ridicule, and condemnation, based on the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Can the number 1,000 be used in a symbolic manner? Psalm 50:10 Does an angel with a key come from heaven and open the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2? Why did the angel have to unlock the pit if it was not locked previously? Who is the king of the angels in the bottomless pit found in Revelation 9:11? Are some of the angels “bound” in some manner in Revelation 9:14? If the beast comes up out of the pit in Revelation 11:7, where is the beast before then? John sees “souls” at the beginning of Revelation chapter 20. Are these the same “souls” found in Revelation 6:9-11? Is the “first resurrection” in Revelation 20:5 the first bodily resurrection in the Book of Revelation? (Rev. 11:11) Are there two different types of resurrections in John chapter 5? John 5:24 (Spiritual) ? Were you dead, and now you are alive? John 5:27-30 Christ describes the bodily resurrection and “hour” of judgment of “all” the dead. Who is the “strong man” who is bound in Matthew 12:26-29? How is Satan “bound” in Revelation 20:3? How many mortals are left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46? Isaiah 65:17-25? Are people really dying in verse 20? Context, Context, Context… The New Heavens and New Earth are found at the beginning of the passage, and the end of the curse is found at the end of the passage. What happens if verse 20 begins with a negative statement? "There will be no more..." Was Paul expecting Christ to return "in flaming fire", taking vengeance on those who do not know God in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10? How would mortals survive this fire? Does the fire come at the end of Revelation 20? Did Paul expect both the living and the dead to be judged at the appearing of Christ, in 2 Timothy 4:1? When is the judgment of the dead in Revelation 20? Is it the same judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:18? What is the restitution of all things at the return of Christ in Acts 3:20-21? Will Christ's sacrifice at Calvary also reverse the curse, at His return? Does death die at the last trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15:50-55? Why did Jesus correct the woman at the well when she said earthly Jerusalem was the place to worship? See John 4:20-24. Why did Paul say the Jerusalem above is our “mother” in Galatians 4:24-31? What is the inheritance of the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Is the third temple found in 1 Peter 2:4-10? Is this temple just as real as a temple made of earthly stones? What was Peter expecting on the day of the Lord when He comes as a thief in 2 Peter 3:10-13? Do we find the judgment of both the living and the dead at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, in Revelation 11:15-18? Why do most preachers ignore the time of the judgment of the dead, with reward for some, and destruction for others in Revelation 11:18? What does it prove about the chronology of the Book of Revelation? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Is there a correlation between Revelation 20 and earlier passages in the Book of Revelation? Is Revelation chapter 20 another example of “Recapitulation”? Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Rev_18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Judgment Before the Great White Throne. Rev_19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
God does not bring plague on the wicked and spare the righteous, while he shines his son on both. The God of the Jews is a god of vengeance, but the God of Jesus is love, and who is love cannot hate. Period
I love babies therefore I hate abortion, I love Jews therefore I hated antisemitism, I love black people therefore I hate slavery and prejudice. God loves righteousness therefore He hates unrighteousness, He loves holiness therefore He hates wickedness...your statement is made without really thinking about what you were saying.
2Th 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
I think "the last day" refers to the last day of the Old Testament covenant. We are now in the "never ending" age of Christ as King over His New Covenant Spirit Filled people.
Daniel 9.25 itself "answers" the time of the re-building history of the first "seven weeks," and only THEN does the text proceed, in verse 26, to the next "62 weeks," coming unto Messiah. The "prince" of the next sevens doesn't "immediately" follow, even if he IS Titus of Rome, for yet another generation of Jews, nor do his "People." Daniel 11, all the way up to chapter 12 verse 4, tells us specifically that "time " will pass before we reach the End. The Angel calls this TIME, as Jesus also says, "Such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time." Pretty exclusive moment! And it's ALL in the text, remarkably!
One of the reasons why Dispensationalism spread quickly in America was partly due to the Civil War. The populace was eager to accept a doctrine of Christians getting out of their tribulations.
About the 3 1/2 years we could determine the time frame at least approximately from the time Daniel spoke about to seal the prophecy until the time John wrote about to open the seal.
Great teaching that should be preached in every building holding people calling themselves Christians that still believe in a pretrib rapture. Its hard for me to believe that so many are deceived and blinded by this false theology...just amazing because its clearly false, and that just goes to show that Believers do not read their bibles! I pray my pretrib friends will shake this lie off, and live freely without the threat...yes, I call it a threat, because it creates fear of living fully..ie. have no children, no college, etc., as you said. Christians, if you're going to use a commentary, please use one written by early church fathers, like Matthew Henry...you will never see a pretrib rapture, or a 7 year tribulation, mentioned, and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth...He will speak to you if you'll listen.
I will not point a finger at those who can't see. I was one of those Christians, UNTIL reading a passage one day(one that i read many times) and GOD removed the veil from my eyes. That started my journey. That is what i love about the Bible. You can read a passage many times and then one day you read it differently. GOD's timing is perfect as to when HE shows you what HE desires you to understand. GOD bless us all!!!
Very good; now you need to understand that the kingdom of God was the first 1000 yrs of the Christian age beginning on the day of Pentecost and ends when the Antichrist had taken power over the world. The Antichrist is speaking about the Roman Catholic Church who made war against the saints and forbid the owning or reading of scriptures. The early church knew this and mentioned it in their discourses. There will not be a future 7 year Tribulation. It will be the same old tribulation that we have always put up with and there will not be a future Millennial rein of Christ. When Jesus comes it will be the last day and He will take out of this world those who are born of the Spirit and He will destroy the world by fire. The kingdom of God is a Spiritual kingdom, which most people disregard, not an earthly kingdom and those that are a part of it are born of the water and of the Spirit. Jesus said to Nicodemus "except you are born of the water and of the Spirit you cannot enter into the Kingdom of God." Peter in the second chapter of Acts lets us know how this is accomplished in Acts 2:38. The Holy Ghost always manifests itself by speaking through the mouth of those receiving it in a heavenly language. There will be a Judgment after the world is destroyed. Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Actually, my pre-trib belief makes me want to be ready, because Jesus can come at any time, there will be no warning. Also, I don't understand this fascination with being here for the tribulation. Are we not warned?: Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. Amo 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
@@ricoyochanan I think that you have confused the day of the Lord, which is the judgement of God on those who have rebelled against him and rejected his son, with the tribulation of the saints which is at the hand of the antichrist. And I don’t know of anyone is fascinated or looking forward to it like it’s going to be a vacation 😂
I hve never believed in that. I never understood where Christians see a pretrib rapture 😳 where the Lord Himself clearly states that He will come to get us at the very end. Thats why Jesus said “those that endure to the end will be saved” if your end is before, well, so be it .. but there is no getting out easy .. everybody will be tested .. period !!! But unfortunately the greater majority of the American church believes in all of this .. its their sacred cow 🙄
In my own reading of Daniel and thinking of how it fit in with history, I always just assumed the 3.5 years = ~35 years from Jesus’s birth to death, then 35 years until Jerusalem’s destruction to complete the 70th week. I guess the 1 remaining “week” doesn’t really fit, though because there’s no reference to suddenly multiplying the week by 10
It's easy to teach the same Gospel message, but teach bad theology at the same time. If they teach Jesus' death and resurrection, but twist prophecy to work in the agenda of current and/or future events.... They leave the sheep focused on current events and unsound doctrine. God allows people to chase after it because they aren't focused on their hearts. They say Lord Lord but their hearts are far from me. Same Gospel message, with a major distraction and deception.
We are now in the last day, the last day is 1000 years long plus 7 years. Adam had the first 1000 years, Jesus has the last 1000 years of history. It’s not about persecution it’s about the wrath of God. Pray that you escape these things.
I agree with the study of this gentleman basically with everything but one thing it keeps coming to my mind is that if Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega and the word of God will forever be even after the Earth and the Heavens passed the Word will always be eternally that makes me think that there still some sort of interpretation for future as well as for the past and present times.
Dear Brother in Christ there never was or will be a time of tribulation like that of the Ecclesia during The Great Tearable Tribulation that John in Rev.1 was a fellow brother in. This Tribulation was only "cut short" because the Roman Empire put all their effort in the war against Jerusalem, bringing it there to the Jews.
Matthew 24 Jesus was talking about the total destruction of the Temple and the near destruction of the people as well. 70 AD was the great tribulation.
I believe when Paul referred to the temple of God he was talking about a temple dedicated to God that wasn't in Jerusalem ( Israel) and he was referring to one of the 7 churches John talked about in Revelations and that temple was Hagia Sophia
I agree with you on the time limit part of the tribulation but as a biblical historian an expert on the early Ante-nicene Church I can tell you that you are 100% wrong about what the early church view of Revelation was. They believed absolutely that it was about the time right before the end of all things and judgment. The only thing they disagreed on was whether the millennial reign of Christ was literal or figurative.
one thing is for sure according to daniel 9, there is 490 years given to Israel, 483 have passed and happened there is one 7 year period left, I no longer see a pre-trib rapture, But I do see a pre-wrath rapture, the question is when does God's wrath start vs the beasts persecution ( which lasts 3.5 years)
Dispensationalism makes Daniel a false prophet as the 70 weeks have come and gone. If you use Cyrus's decree in 538 BC, the 70 weeks ended in 48BC. If you use Darius's decree in 520BC, the 70 weeks ended in 30BC. If you use the first decree by Artaxerxes in 457BC, the 70 weeks ended in 33AD. If you use the second decree by Artaxerxes in 444BC, then the 70 weeks ended in 46AD. So which one was it? Dispensationalism says that they 70th week is postponed, thus making Daniel a false prophet as what Daniel said has not come to pass. (what a prophet speaks comes true=true prophet; what a prophet speaks does not come to pass=false prophet--Dt 18:19-22) Dispensationalism is simply one man's made up view of what the end times is supposed to look like. It was made up in the 1830's by John Nelson Darby. Take off this one man's view and just simply read the Bible without the commentaries and the grid that this view makes you read the Bible through.
The word Shabat in the Hebrew is in Daniel 927 for the word cease. Jesus put to rest (Sabbath) the need for animal sacrifices ever again. Daniel 926a says Jesus will die after the 69 weeks were done so that puts his ministry into the 70th week. Also, the pronoun he in Daniel 927 has an antecedent grammatically which points back to the messiah or Titus or both combined.
Do we not ultimately go through tribulations for the benefit of others . Isn't that the end goal of Pauls thorn in his side and his many sufferings ? Didn't Christ leave us his example ? And in this way we glorify the Father .
When is someone going to read John 14 and the Jewish wedding, and the church in Philadelphia avoiding the hour of testing on the world. You are reading someone’s mail you are not invited. How many people did you invite to your wedding.? How many people did you invite to the honeymoon?
The church. God will never give you everything you need directly from him. He will use others, that's the essence of love. Can you love God stranded on an island? No.
@@sunnydaze1185 That really depends on what level of error is being taught. No matter where you go you will have some people with bad teaching, but if the people love one another and do not make differences in understanding scripture a litmus test then you we will have to live with some error.
@@scottwojack True, true...I guess I would just add, even more important than the members loving each other( or at least as important), is the true gospel of Christ that brings salvation being understood by the church leadership and members. The essentials being agreed upon. Agree, no " perfect" churches.
My guess of ,"ten days of tribulation" might be found in the meaning of number "10" throughout scripture . Possibly the numeral 10 represents ,"measurement of responsibility" as in 10 commandments would be the measurement of responsibility for man to enter kingdom of God .Or ten times Pharoah changed his mind on releasing jews which was his measurement of responsibility as ordained by God .
Minute 14…..That’s like saying the trinity doesn’t exist because the Bible doesn’t say the word Trinity. But I don’t know what I believe about the tribulation to be honest and I don’t think it really matters :-) but I will continue to listen :-)
If you assert that Matt 24:1-23 has already happened, indeed in the generation of those living at the time, how do we make sense of the rest of Matt which tells us what will happen immediately after the tribulation? 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Are we supposed to believe that the Son of Man returned on the clouds and we just missed it?
Good question Shelly. I used to adhere to the Roman Emperors being the heads but not anymore after further study. I have now come to believe that it was 6 kingdoms that were fallen and one is to come was the city of Jerusalem itself. 1st century Jerusalem that was destroyed in 70 AD. Because they had a king over them who comes out of the 'abyss' Revelation 11. The physical earthly temple was still standing. The 7 kings were not just real men but an evil spirit ruled through one of them in the time of those kingdoms. Beginning from the tower of Babel; Sumerian = Nimrod Egyptian = The evil pharaoh that wanted to destroy God's people Babylonian = King Nebuchadnezzar, wanting to destroy God's people Medeo-Persian = Haman verses Queen Esther/God's people Greeks = Antiochus Epiphanes, wanting to destroy God's people Romans = Nero Caesar, wanting to destroy the real church of God's people. [Christians] The kingdom of the Jews when they went full on in rebellion to God and Jesus, their Messiah = Eleasar Ben Simon plus the 10 horns/kings were the 10 leaders of the factions recorded by Josephus in 'Wars of the Jews'. The rebellion lasted for 3 1/2 years when the city was shut up and abhorrent atrocities occurred in the city. The siege against Jerusalem lasted for 5 months with Titus and the Roman armies. All recorded by Josephus in 'Wars of the Jews'. Reading his account was like reading Matthew 24 & Mark 13 & Luke 21
there is a different tribulation before the second coming but what Jesus said in Matthew 24:37 "as in the days of noah" they enjoy life not knowing they are heading wrath of God so they are in great tribulation
Brother Steve. Love what you are doing in seeking to dismantle dispensationalism. you state that your 20 verses in support of it came up short in your own mind as saying there was a pre trip rapture. I challenge you to reevaluate your trinitarian views by the same method. There is not a single verse that states such a belief to be truth. there are however many which state the opposite. Many of which can be found in the revelation. hope you can get there.
Good comment. I just saw this video and was thinking the EXACT thing. The "Trinity" concept is nowhere to be found in Scripture UNLESS, as Steve himself has said, one "comes in" or "assumes" a trio of persons each being God. I questioned the "Trinity" when I realized that I was only believing a doctrine which I was TAUGHT as a child and which was written, not in Scripture, but in the Roman Catholic Catechism, with diagrams and all. What I found in Scripture is that Yahweh God was the ONE and ONLY Singular Person God of the Patriarchs of the OT. His Son, the Lord (not God) Jesus Christ was CONCEIVED (came into existence) and was BORN 2,000 years ago, in other words, he was NOT a "pre-existent" Being of any sort. Jesus is God's "only begotten" HUMAN Son, God's Heir, the Messiah, the Son of Man, the Son of David, the King of kings, the Lord of lords, BUT NOT GOD. Just as Steve has proposed, that many verses CAN BE interpreted to mean that Jesus is God...IF you come in to the matter with that Idea ALREADY in your HEAD. We can only wait on the LORD's patience in order to give HUMBLE men, which I believe Steve to be, awareness of the DECEPTION of a so called "Trinity".
@@paulnavarro3822 Paul, you are only half way there. The thing about your comment I will address is the fact that Jesus is in fact God. born as the son of God as a very important part of his plan as to how he would reveal himself to the world. If he would have come from heaven on wings of angels for all to see, how would he then have provided atonement. his death was paramount to his coming, and his clandestined manner assured it. He had to look just like he did and have he history of humanhood to do it. His railing on the apostates of the day - with the appearance of a lowly carpenter - instigated their hatred. He knew what it was that would set them off. Consider what happened in his home town when he declared "this day is this scripture fulfilled in your hearing". They tried to murder him right on the spot. If you believe that he was in fact sinless, then his diety is beyond question. He is God revealed in flesh for the purpose of redemption. the jews killed the living God as foretold. I believe the modalist view of God is correct. God revealing himself in 3 different ways. Jesus said he would send the comforter then followed that with " I will not leave you comfortless, I will come unto you" and on the day of Pentecost they were all filled with the spirit of Jesus Christ. This whole idea that Jesus said he was God to his disciples, was the stumbling block for Thomas's unbelief IMHO. ( He who has seen me has seen the father... and Have i been with you so long and yet you still don't know me - the father ) Thomas declaration upon seeing the resurrected body was - in Hebrew - MY JEHOVAH AND MY ELOHEEM. Thomas finally got it. His God became this man of low esteem. God works in mysteries for those of us who are of spiritual minds to discover, and there are few of us. I wrote a book that covers this material in detail from the final word of God for us, the Revelation. On Amazon "THE BOOK OF THE REVELATION, THE OVERCOMER AND THE APOSTASY". I hope it will help you in your quest for this understanding.
@@dsheppard8492- Keeping with the video and Steve's thoughts and arguments against a supposed "Seven Year Tribulation", basically he has said that such an IDEA or NOTION is NOT in Scripture. In other words, there is NOTHING WRITTEN in Scripture which actually EXPOUNDS on a "Seven Year Tribulation". It should be SIMPLE to understand Steve's logic. In other words, if the Scriptures do not EXPOUND on a particular SUBJECT, e.gs., trinity, purgatory, suspended 70th "week" of Daniel, a not yet revealed future "Antichrist", etc., then how can people ASSERT those things as "Biblical Doctrines"? They CANNOT! Those "beliefs" are mere ASSUMPTIONS! In contrast, anyone can ASSERT - without any doubt whatsoever, without the need of a "theologian's" EXPLANATION - just by READING the Scriptures, that there is ONLY ONE (Singular) God who's name is YHWH. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, was ONE Single Being; He always referred to Himself in the First Person Singular. Even an unbeliever by simply READING the Scriptures will see that they speak about a Singular God. The other thing he will notice is that neither Moses, nor the Prophets, nor the Psalms, nor the "Gospel" writers, nor the Apostles, nor Paul, nor any other Biblical Author, has any thing to say about a God who supposedly BECAME another "person" or TOOK ON a different Identity. John 1:1 along with John 1:14 are used to supposedly "prove" that "Jesus WAS God" and that "God BECAME Jesus", which is plain outright "circular reasoning". In fact, the verses says NOTHING about "Jesus BEING God" nor of "God BECOMING Jesus" or somehow "changing" from ONE Person/Identity to ANOTHER Person/Identity. What those verses do assert is, that which was "made flesh", which was "made manifest" to the World, was God's WORD, i.e., SOMETHING which belonged specifically to Himself. Jesus, the Human Son of God, at age 30, BEGAN to MANIFEST God's (his Father in Heaven) GLORY through the WORD which he BEGAN to SPEAK to the World. There is no indication in the previously discussed verses to suggest that God either "became" a man or that God "changed" himself into man, which in fact is the Roman Catholic notion of an "Incarnation". What did occur is like the following example: Around 1963, Clint Ballard Jr., ( a one time song writer and friend of mine) wrote a song which was performed by various artists. They were OK performances, however, it was not UNTIL 1975 that IT "was made" a number one hit song in America, when Linda Ronstadt sang her version. The "whole world" so to speak HEARD Clint's SONG through the VOICE of Linda. What BECAME a "hit"? What was MANIFESTED? Was it Clint himself? Was it Linda herself? No, neither. Each already had their Status/Position in life. What was "made flesh"? What became a hit? It was that which was HEARD throughout the world, THE SONG ITSELF as HEARD through the VOICE of Linda Ronstadt. When Jesus SPOKE he SPOKE God's WORDS like no man had ever done before him. He not only SPOKE God's WORDS he was a PIVOTAL subject of God's WORD. Jesus was the ULTIMATE VOICE of God through his preaching and he was to make ATONEMENT for sin for all of mankind via his death on the "cross"; God "sent" His Son (two distinct individuals involved in the work of redemption, not just one) to RECONCILE the world unto Himself. God's SON - not God Himself - the IMMORTAL Human Jesus Christ, paid the penalty for sin, 2000 years ago, on Calvary, in Judea, on Earth, while God the Father looked on from Heaven. Jesus cried to his Father IN HEAVEN! Jesus was DEAD for three days and three nights and in the Grave UNTIL God the Father, from Heaven, RAISED him from the dead. Jesus did not raise himself from the Grave, dead people can do NOTHING! As Steve's logic goes, there are no TWO Persons, nor THREE Persons, "in God", or whichever way anyone would like to say it, SPOKEN about in Scripture. The "Apostle to the Gentiles" who went about giving people the KNOWLEDGE of God NEVER said a word about a One-ness God, or a Two-ness God, or a Three-ness God, or any other kind of MULTI-PERSONALITIES God. Neither did he use phrases such as "the Father AS the Father" nor "the Son AS the Son", which phrases the One-ness professors are so fond of using because they have to INVENT a new notion/idea, not found in Scripture, to defend their positions. I am quite familiar with y'alls NOTIONS about a One-ness God. I have viewed many videos by Ritchie, he was a brilliant man and quite knowledgeable both of Scripture and the World. I learned much about the fallacies of "trinitarianism" ( I was a so called "trinitarian" as most so called Christians are) from him but I also had many a contention with him on You Tube regarding the "Modalist" position, which I have found to be quite UNTENABLE and CONTRARY to Scripture simply because the One-ness doctrine is not a Biblical Doctrine. Either there is ONLY ONE Singular God, YHWH, or the Scriptures and Jesus are BOTH in error, for Jesus says, that there is ONLY ONE (Singular)TRUE God and that God is His Father, who was in Heaven (two distinctly separate spheres of location) at the time when Jesus, on Earth, spoke those words. I, like Steve, have come to the conclusion that if you need a "theologian's" perspective or interpretation of Scripture then something must be wrong, for we should be able to understand the SIMPLICITY which is in Christ Jesus, without a REMARKABLE interpretation of what is ACTUALLY WRITTEN. 1John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
@@paulnavarro3822 Well I can see you are sold out to what you believe, so I dont have much to say. You did not respond to a single comment i made but went about to prove you are right. I did not Anticipate your demeanor. If you read my book you will get a better picture of the truth I believe. No need to rebut your reply if you don;t first address my reply above.
@@dsheppard8492 - I did REPLY to your comment which was that, "Jesus is in fact God". However, you did not "in fact" show that Jesus is God, you just asserted your Personal Beliefs. Your "beliefs" are not sufficient to show that "Jesus is God". I directly commented on how it CANNOT be possible for Jesus to be God, which is a Simple Matter, because the Scriptures have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to say about a so called "One-ness" God. If it did, all you would have to do (instead of writing a complete book) would be to cite in Bible Scripture, Book/s, Chapter/s, and Verse/s as to WHERE the "One-ness" TEACHING is either EXPOUNDED or ESPOUSED or PROCLAIMED or TAUGHT by any single writer of Scripture. YOU CANNOT DO such a thing, SIMPLY because it ain't there brother! Just like the "Darby/Scofield" and "LaHaye/Jenkins" pre-trib rapture theory, your NOTION or IDEA of a so called "One-ness" God is NOT IN SCRIPTURE. You ASSUME it is so you have projected your "One-ness" idea INTO he Scriptures. My position IS in Scripture itself and I do not have to make an appeal to my personal "feelings". There is and has always been ONLY ONE (Singular) TRUE God, Yahweh the Father, as also says the Human Son of God, the Man Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ. I do not need to write a book to EXPLAIN it. A child can understand that teaching which IS Biblical teaching. So if I hurt your "feelings" I'm sorry, it was not my intention.
To think John was writing to us 2000 plus years later is pure arrogance on our part. He had no reason to assume so. No angel or the Lord himself told him so. We have been decieved by many.
Revelation 12 contains 2 verses about a 3.5 year (moon calendar) Tribulation..... And who is the woman who gave birth to the man child??? I think it links to Genesis 3:15 about the SEED WAR..... Rev. 12:6 KJV And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. Rev. 12:13 KJV And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. Rev. 12:14 KJV And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
I do believe biblically it is told us that the great tribulation is at the end towards the time of the resurrection & Jesus' coming per Mt 24 with Dan 12 Matthew 24:21, 29-30 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Daniel 12:1-2 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Acts 1 records a "word" about the restoration of the nation of Israel. The Old Testament certainly does. Spiritualization and degradation of the OT is a horrific result of Covenant Theology.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
Do you throw away chapters 11-13? We have two separate 3 1/2 periods of time, denoted by 1260 days for one half, and 42 months for the second half. How is this not applied in this teaching??
Scholars unanimously agree chapters 12 n 13 act as an intermission, a dividing line in Jesus last will and testament. Search; NEW revelation chapters 12 and 13 revealed in the stars by kingdomwithinus. These chapters 'reveal' the gospel of Jesus is literally written into the fabric of the universe. Emotional. Many ancient dates have been verified to fine detail by Christian Astronomers using the planetarium program Stellarium like Jesus birth, September 11 3BC.
@@GraniteChief369 that’s an amazing anecdote that has nothing to do with what is written. There never were verses or chapters in the papyri. Revelation 11 places the 1260 days and 42 months as occurring separately. The events depicted in each period of time are unique, exactly as the events are in Rev 12 and 13. During the 1260 days there is protection from God, however during the 42 months, there is persecution of the saints, which is harmonious with the prophet Daniels prophecy, verbatim. The 42 months are the second half of Daniels 70th week, and we know this because Daniel tells us the Beast goes into perdition and the saints inherit the kingdom.
@@CryoftheProphet nonsence. There is nothing in the Bible allowing anyone to cut out the 70th week of Daniel. Besides, it is fulfilled already, starting with the baptism of Jesus, crusified in the middle of the week, and ended with the stoning of Stephen. Then Peter got the vision of the unclean animals, and call to Cornelius' house (gentile) and Paul was called on the way to Damascus, to preach the gospel for the gentiles. Until week 70 ended, the gospel was for the jews. Week 70 of Daniel has nothing to do in our time. It is a distraction that corrupts any interpretation of prophesy - it even denies Christ and makes him the future Antichrist.
@@CryoftheProphet I do not see why I should engage in a change of subject. If checking references and quotes in Acts and John, they seem to connect it to the Messiah. However, it does not change anything I commented about Daniel above.
Revelation was written AFTER 70 C.E. approximately 96 C.E. So in Matthew 24 Jesus was predicting the destruction of Jerusalem and His coming at the end of the world, which was to occur much later probably in our time.
Jesus never talks about the end of the world anywhere in the bible. Jesus only talks about the end of the age. Study and find out for yourself what the end of the age is.
If written after 70 AD - 70 CE is secular - isn't the elephant in the room that the biggest event to the Jewish people at that time would be the destruction of the temple & it is mentioned nowhere in scripture if written at that later date?
Daniel 11:21. The king that wins the kingdom il by flatteries . Verse 22(( the prince of the covenant)) that does League)!! Is the guy in Daniel 9:27.. the devil's got your mind!
The last day The last trump The last enemy. 1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. After the millennium Rev 21. Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be **no more death,** neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Yes. After Christ returns we go on to the new heavens and the new earth. "The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him. But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies. What do ye imagine against the Lord? he will make an utter end: AFFLICTION SHALL NOT RISE UP THE SECOND TIME." Nahum 1 : 7-9 If death is the last enemy, then how is there another battle against the enemy a 1000 years after Christ returns? Once Jesus returns, then there is the Judgment and after that we go on to the eternal state (Matthew 25).
@@victorbennett5414 The millennium reign in Jerusalem starts at messiah coming. The first resurrection in Rev 20 is to enter the millennium. The second resurrection in rev 21 is after the mill after the death of death..
I don't believe there will be any addition to the body of Christ after the resurrection. Saying there will be saints born after that doesn't even make sense. The body of Christ is called the elect in the New testament. Any Jews that become part of the body of Christ will have to be grafted in just like non Jews. The day of the LORD will spring like a trap on the whole world. Get into the word with the Holy Spirit and watch and pray. The day of the LORD won't surprise You if you do this.
Haven't you heard of Armageddon. Revelation 16:16 that's the Great Tribulation that the END TIME will witness. The Great Tribulation that befell the first century Christians will not happen again, Matthew 24:21,it was all fulfilled apon that Generation.
Steve says the rapture isn't mentioned in connection with the tribulation. I would challenge that. Let us observe Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth. Now he wil argue that this is directed to a church at that time, and he's correct, as all seven letters are to discrete churches at the locations stated at that time. But then it also has future world wide application with a trial that is coming upon the whole world. And it is tied to verse 11 where Jesus said He is coming soon. See also Acts 1:11, Joh 14:3, 1 Thes 1:10 So I conclude that not only is the rapture mentioned in conjunction with the tribulation, but it occurs before it happens. How soon it occurs before the tribulation is not stated, but God will remove present believers in Jesus from that trial.
You just added a rapture that is nowhere mentioned. Have you thaught about that the keeping from the hour of trial could be because the Beast power will kill all that refuse the mark? There is even some blessing in revelation to those who die from a specific point, because they will rest and their works follow them (to the resurrection). The Bible also mentions somewhere else, about that the righteous die to spare them from temptations I think it mentions. I do not remember exactly where this is mentioned, but since our hope is not in this world, but in the resurrection, there is no more perfect place to rest protected than in the grave sleeping, until the Lord calls us in the resurection.
@@theodorjoensenAmos 5:18Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. 19As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. 20Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
You have studied a great deal and you have had SO much revealed to you, however you ask: "Why should I believe these last seven years, the seventieth week are in in the end?" Let's go back to Matthew 24 and the original question of the disciples: they ask Him, "Tell us when will be the time of the coming and of the end of the world?". As you mention He iterates many signs. Then he says," When ye shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, then:.." He gives more events, but He also warns, "THEN shall be [unprecedented] great tribulation..." As you said, Daniel gives us a timeline and clues, but we need to back up to the 70th week: "he shall CONFIRM THE COVENANT for ONE WEEK, and in the MIDST OF THE WEEK, he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease, and he shall place the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION." There it IS. Seven year covenant, stops in the middle when the tribulation begins for the last 3 1/2 of them. "So that he, as God, sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he IS God." Jesus says to read Daniel, and to understand it. Then Daniel says "blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred and thirty days." In Daniel 11 he even talks about "exploits" God's people will be doing at the time; some will even be on the attack (and the a - hack against his cyber world mark system. Christians will not ALL be cowering. Of COURSE it must be at the end, both Jesus and Daniel say "the time of the end", "the last days" and "the time if thy coming." You CAN'T understand Matthew 24 without under standing Daniel 9:27 (and periphery) and 11:31 because Jesus, Himself directed us to them, didn't He?
One has to interpret Daniel correctly first. The “He” who confirms a covenant is the Messiah. His ministry began in the 70th week (and after the 69th week…) roughly 3.5 yrs later He was crucified. (Cut off but not for himself. For us!) By his death, He caused sacrifices to cease. The last 3.5 yrs the gospel stayed with the Jews, until the stoning of Stephen. Then the gospel was taken to the gentiles. The most pivotal prophecy in history- when Messiah arrived on the scene, was baptized, anointed as the most Holy and it has been hijacked by those who believe the AC is who is referenced in Daniel. It’s absolutely tragic.
@@JLMAX22 Where are you going to put the great tribulation? Max? The last trump, the end of sins, everlasting righteous all are prefaced by Daniel's "weeks" and Jesus' word to his disciples. I LIKE this preacher very much, but I DON'T think his assessment of the seventy weeks is correct. King James writers put a "colon" a separation between that of the other 69 weeks and the seventieth. What are we going to do with the tribulation Jesus told us about if we try to put the last 3 1/2 years as "during His ministry"? Why, in the world, would "the prince that would come" and "confirm the covenant" be Jesus? It's CLEARLY a bad guy, in Matthew 24, in Daniel 9, in Daniel 11, in Thessalonians, and in Revelations. What covenant did Jesus confirm? Jesus threw the money changers out; He did NOT cause the oblation to cease or take away the daily sacrifice: that continued another 40 years AFTER His death. There are those who would like to start it up, again, now, in our time. II Timothy 2:15
@@reyhudson563 Did you even read the Bible? I will show you were Jesus confirmed a covenant with the many. To be fair, you need to show us that anyone else besides Jesus, confirms a covenant with the many. Your antichrist is a fable. (Daniel 9:27) then He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week, he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. The end of 3 ½ year ministry Christ was killed and the curtain rent. The sacrificial Lamb ended the sacrificial system of the old covenant by His death, emphatically confirmed here in Hebrews. Isaiah 53:11,Romans 5:15 tells it all. (Hebrews 9:12,24-28) "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation." Jesus was confirming the covenant with Israel. That’s why He came, Confirming the promise that was made to Abraham many years before. Israel’s remnant and grafted gentiles were eagerly waiting for Christ to come, like He said He would, in their generation, for salvation.
@@JLMAX22 Hello, I can understand how someone could think the "prince that will come" might be Jesus, but not from a complete reading of the 9th Chapter of Daniel, COUPLED with the Eleventh Chapter . There's just TOO MUCH, there in the 11th Chapter of Daniel, all leading up to the "abomination of desolation" (11:31) There are troop movements, his planned prognostication of war. Jesus did NOT plan war before he was "cut off" Matthew 24:15, 21, and 29 -31; Daniel 9 (especially verse 27) and Daniel Chapter 11 (especially verse 31) ALL go together. Jesus puts the great tribulation, not at His death, but at the "midst of the week", when the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination placed. Jesus places the Great Tribulation at the end, just as does Daniel, Revelation and Paul in Thessalonians. The antichrist isn't a "fable"; John tells us about him. 'You have heard that antichrist will come..." 1st John
It is easy, in Bible prophecy, to say "this means this and that means that". I've been seeing and hearing people do it for over 50 years. Some folks are sure they can hang a horn on every beast. I can not go into detail, here, as to just how many different people - right here on RUclips have been SO SURE that they knew who the anti christ was or would be. Funny enough, most of those people (including the Pope, Obama, Bush and even poor Juan Carlos and a slew of others have since gone to their reward. Your interpretation is that Jesus was the "daily sacrifice". Well, I can't actually refute that. He WAS the ultimate sacrifice; that is SURE... but a "daily sacrifice" well, that seems a little far fetched to me. Could He have been sacrificed over and over, on a daily basis? That just seems like a shoe that's a little hard for anybody I ever heard about to fit... even the Lord. There IS, however, another line of reasoning which tells us that there will be a temple in Jerusalem and that "he" (with a little H) "...shall sit in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God..." When Paul wrote this (after Jesus' crucification) he did not yet know that Herod's temple would be destroyed, 'cause it hadn't happened yet. Paul died before 70 AD. There are those (including MANY modern Jews in Israel) who are waiting for, hoping for and even taking steps for construction of a third temple in Jerusalem. I have read that the stones already being kept in a warehouse and that the "red heifer" necessary to begin the whole process of temple building has already been produced in Texas. For many years there was a big problem because, for hundreds of years, a mosque sat on the rectangular piece of land that many modern Jews believe to be the "temple mount". I DO NOT KNOW! (Neither does anybody else.) Will a third temple be built in Jerusalem? I would say, "your guess is as good as mine", but MY guess is that it probably WILL be. What better time to do it than now, when there has been so much chaos in Gaza and the West Bank. The military might being exercised, as we speak, might give those pron to build temples the little push they need. (I DON'T KNOW!) But BOTH of us might find out, pretty soon. If there IS a temple, there will also be a sacrifice (weird as it seems) that's just how it works. There are at LEAST hundreds of thousands of religious Jews, currently, hankering for the construction of this temple. If a temple IS built, plenty of people will need to revamp their "interpretations" about their pet Bible prophecies... just as people have had to do for the last 2,000 years and running. Will there be a temple? I think there will. Will it be in Jerusalem? I think so. Will there be a daily sacrifice? Daniel tells us so (twice). Will the ending of that daily sacrifice and the placing of the abomination of desolation begin the "great tribulation"? Not only do Jesus, Daniel, Paul and Revelation 13 tell us so, but it has been well established by MANY Bible scholars and prophets for a long time, BUT... ALL of us are going to have to wait and see, aren't we? "When you see Jerusalem compassed about by armies..." Well, granted, there have been armies there, on occasion: Babylonian, Greek, Hittites, Egyptian, Roman, Arab, Ottoman, British, yes, but I expect such a large horde that it will put all these in a smaller category. But that's just what I think; I got no way to know for SURE except Bible prophecy and my gut, until it happens. Maybe I won't even be around any more. But it WILL be what it IS! So why don't we all come down off our high horse of know - it - all Bible all figured it out ism and rest at Jesus' feet and say with John, "Even so, come, Lord Jesus."?
If the rapture takes place before the tribulations and the righteous are taken away by Jesus and the wicked are stained by the brightness of His presence.. then who will face the tribulation.. Your message is highly confusing and misleading.. please ask God for wisdom to understand this important doctrine
Everyone who enters heaven will go through tribulation first. For it is through much tribulation that we MUST enter the Kingdom of God. It is a Kingdom of righteousness. We shall live in righteousness through Jesus.
There is no 7 year tribulation....people have twisted Daniel 9:27 big time...that entire chapter is about the Jews, Jerusalem, and Jesus nowhere does it talk about an antichrist or a 7 year tribulation...Jesus confirmed THE covenant with many He confirmed it, His death caused the sacrifices and oblation to cease He is the last and final sacrifice no more after Him. Every burnt offering in the OT was a picture of Jesus Christ...
When I google the number of emperors during the first century, Nero is 5th in line. Not 6th. Not sure how Steve Gregg reconciles that difference: 1- Augustus 27BC-14 AD 2-Tiberius 14AD -37 AD 3-Caligula 37AD-41AD 4-Claudius 41AD -54AD 5-Nero 54AD -68AD 6-Galba 68AD -69 AD 7-Otho Jan thru April 69AD 8-Aulu Vitellius July/Dec 69 9- Vespasian 69-79AD temple Destruction period.
Gregg, I have studied all the views and have decided that Pre tribulational rapture. I am sorry that you believe that people who believe in this view of eschatology only believe because they were told to believe this. So you are saying that we believe in heresy. There is proof that some of the founding church fathers who believe in a pre tribulation.
Matthew 24 verse 15 ACTUALLY SAYS THIS - hint! hint! "(whoever reads, let him understand)"! So let's do that very thing. Sorry Steve, but in Mt. 24, it is IRRESPONSIBLE to answer the "verse 3 questions" of the disciples by first JUMPING OVER the thirty lines of text that actually RECORD His answer to them, and thus concluding "this generation" as being the present one. Neither can you use such faulty logic in unpacking what Moses tells Israel in Deuteronomy chapters 28 through 30 when he prophesies the coming 3,500 YEARS of lifetime of this people, as they stand there, waiting to enter the Land. In Genesis 3.15, God tells Satan - IN THE GARDEN - what Jesus will do to him FAR into the future!
The ending of the 69 weeks of Daniel 9. Is the last day of the year 26. Which is March the 28. Pretty cold for a babtism!!!!. on the Jewish calendar.. Jesus died on the cross on a Wednesday April 25th. Preparation day.. Nissan 14!! John 19: 31 In the year 31 if you know what you're doing. (That's 4 years and 28 days)) there's no baptism!!. (That's not in the middle of any seven)!!! Looney tunes!
The Temple was not one of the seven wonders of the world. ALSO, and this is huge. This did not happen in the first century; Matthew 24 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from ONE END OF THE HEAVEN TO THE OTHER." If this happened in the first century and ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH saw this from ONE END OF THE HEAVEN TO THE OTHER, it would be the greatest event since the Flood, and yet there are no historical records of Jesus appearing in the sky sending His angels to the "four winds...one end of the heaven to the other." AGAIN, if it happened in the first century, every single nation on planet earth (ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH) should have historical accounts of this great event. So, while some of Matthew 24 may have happened in the first century, NOT all things did happen.
Hi Mike. I can see you are coming around a little bit. Now you are saying that some of Matthew 24 has happened. Would you mind letting me know what has not been fulfilled in Matthew 24?
This is an exert from Josephus 'Wars of the Jews' who was a first hand eyewitness and JEW of the destruction and rebellion. Thus were the miserable people persuaded by these deceivers, and such as belied God himself; while they did not attend nor give credit to the signs that were so evident, and did so plainly foretell their future desolation, but, like men infatuated, without either eyes to see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made to them. Thus there was a star 1 resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year. Thus also before the Jews' rebellion, and before those commotions which preceded the war, when the people were come in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus, 2 [Nisan,] and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time; which lasted for half an hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskillful, but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes, as to portend those events that followed immediately upon it. At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed, brought forth a lamb in the midst of the temple. Moreover, the eastern gate of the inner 3 [court of the] temple, which was of brass, and vastly heavy, and had been with difficulty shut by twenty men, and rested upon a basis armed with iron, and had bolts fastened very deep into the firm floor, which was there made of one entire stone, was seen to be opened of its own accord about the sixth hour of the night. Now those that kept watch in the temple came hereupon running to the captain of the temple, and told him of it; who then came up thither, and not without great difficulty was able to shut the gate again. This also appeared to the vulgar to be a very happy prodigy, as if God did thereby open them the gate of happiness. But the men of learning understood it, that the security of their holy house was dissolved of its own accord, and that the gate was opened for the advantage of their enemies. So these publicly declared that the signal foreshowed the desolation that was coming upon them. Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence." But, what is still more terrible, there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian and a husbandman, who, four years before the war began, and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity, came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple, began on a sudden to cry aloud, "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against this whole people!" This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city. However, certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his, and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes; yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him, but still went on with the same words which he cried before. Hereupon our rulers, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man, brought him to the Roman procurator, where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare; yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears, but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" And when Albinus (for he was then our procurator) asked him, Who he was? and whence he came? and why he uttered such words? he made no manner of reply to what he said, but still did not leave off his melancholy ditty, till Albinus took him to be a madman, and dismissed him. Now, during all the time that passed before the war began, this man did not go near any of the citizens, nor was seen by them while he said so; but he every day uttered these lamentable words, as if it were his premeditated vow, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" Nor did he give ill words to any of those that beat him every day, nor good words to those that gave him food; but this was his reply to all men, and indeed no other than a melancholy presage of what was to come. This cry of his was the loudest at the festivals; and he continued this ditty for seven years and five months, without growing hoarse, or being tired therewith, until the very time that he saw his presage in earnest fulfilled in our siege, when it ceased; for as he was going round upon the wall, he cried out with his utmost force, "Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the holy house!" And just as he added at the last, "Woe, woe to myself also!" there came a stone out of one of the engines, and smote him, and killed him immediately; and as he was uttering the very same presages he gave up the ghost.
@@RisenShine-zy7dn Thanks for this. I have seen excerpts of this before, but not the last part. When Jesus chastised the Pharisees in (Matthew 23:33) “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell (Gehenna), I explain to folks that this word hell is a made up word. The prophets, apostles, and Jesus never taught hell, a place of eternal judgment. I explain that this hell is an actual place. The Hebrew Gehenna which was the valley of the son of Hinnom, the valley of slaughter, where Josephus records that 1.1 million Jews were slaughtered in 70 AD, and a great multitude were cast down over the southeast wall of Jerusalem, into the valley of Hinnom below. Thousands were dragged through the gates and put there, and burned by the Roman legends. When Jesus spoke of “Gehenna,” a desecrated valley, forsaken by God, outside the city. The pharisees knew what Gehenna was, and were insulted that Jesus would dare to condemned them to Gehenna. These apostate Israel supreme council Sanhedrin, that Jesus was addressing that were still alive in 70 AD, ended up in Gehenna, like Christ said they would.
@@james-cq3mi You are correct about the valley of Hinnom in the earthly place outside of Jerusalem. But that place no longer exists and ceased from being after the destruction. However, as the earthly is a representation of the true spiritual, we need to keep in mind that the earthly 'Gehenna' was a reflection of the true and spiritual 'Gehenna' = lake of fire that burns eternally. Where the beast and the false prophet are already. Where Satan will be thrown into for all eternity. Those spiritual entities were not thrown into a physical place on earth in 70 AD but into the spiritual place and rhelm in 70 AD except for Satan who will go there when Christ comes and destroys this world by fire. 2 Peter 3 Revelation 20:10-15. This is also the place where those not written in the lamb's book of life go to their 2nd death. The 1st death is the death of the body, the 2nd death is the death of both soul & body together. Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them who can kill the body but rather fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna." 1 Corinthians 3:13-15 verse 13 "For everyone's work shall be manifest for the day shall declare it for it shall be revealed by fire and the fire shall try everyone's work of what sort it is." This is 2 Peter 3 playing out but the saints will be resurrected at the same time. 1 Thessalonians 4 for all believers alive & living and asleep in death/body. For their souls to connect to an eternal existence and resurrected body, just like Christ. But Christ's body never saw decay. Psalm 16:10 Acts 2:27 Then a new heaven and new earth Revelation 21:1-8. This is not allegorical or metaphorical but a real place NH & NE. Hebrews 2:5 "For unto the angels He has not put into subjection the inhabited earth to come whereof we speak." G 3625 = inhabited earth The bible teaches us that now in this inhabited earth/world the angels are ministering spirits for us/ the saints. Hebrews 1:14 " Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister unto them who shall be the heirs of salvation?" Just in these 2 verses Paul teaches us the earth now and the one new one coming. The 1st resurrection in Revelation 20:4 is the resurrection of the soul after death. "And I saw the souls of them who were beheaded..." The soul's of those who die are either a sheep or a goat- either heaven or Hades [hell/ outer darkness & weeping n gnashing of teeth & torments] and await their abode until the great white thrown judgment after the resurrection of the living and the dead. The just and the unjust on the last day. John 6:39-44 Matthew 25:31-46 Jesus has been separating the sheep & the goats as people live & die for 2000 years now. With His 2 edged sword/ righteousness & judgment. 1 Corinthians 15 Hades is Strong's G 86 - mentioned 11 times in the original Greek Gehenna is G 1067 - mentioned 12 times Look them up, just google [ strong's G 86 ] I like the blue letter bible for this as it gives all the verses and more context. The trouble with full preterism is that it is totally outside orthodox historical biblical teachings. and has a perpetuity of life, death and suffering but that's not what the bible teaches. It teaches opposite to the 'Blessed hope' for all creation. It teaches opposite to a paradise and new earth wherein dwells righteousness and no more sin at all for all of eternity. Where God will once again walk in the garden with His saints on a new earth. No more sin , suffering or death or Satan or demons to deal with for ever & ever & ever. That is the BLESSED HOPE! That is what the bible and Christendom has been teaching for 2000 years. Blessings in the name of Christ Jesus.
So now your blaspheming Jesus Christ and saying the (he in Daniel 9:27 which is the Antichrist incarnated by the devil!!( is Jesus Christ) wow... now I know what your issue is. You got to remember ..Titus was between Jesus Christ.and the He in Daniel 9:27... That puts you at 70 AD!!!! ..then ..he.. finally speaks of the 70 th week!!
Suppose someone offers to give you a lift home....you said ten miles from here....you set off, 10 miles, passenger says nothing, 15..20miles....100miles! Driver says: I thought you said you lived ten miles away? Passenger says, I do, but between the ninth and tenth mile is a distance of 400 miles!! Thats a classic one. Thank you Steve for a great presentation.
My late grandfather was similar to Mr. Gregg as a renowned Bible scholar. They called him the walking Bible. It was definitely a gift that he was given.
Did he have any writings or published works? I would love to learn more. God Bless
Yes, this is the kind of interpretation that one arrives at when one studies for oneself, thinks critically, and sets aside exterior presuppositions which obscure the truth of what scripture says. Bravo.
Actually, the Bible says, There is no 'private interpretation' of the scriptures..." , doesn't it?
Clearly, individuals can receive some light or revelation, but there is something called "the preponderance of scripture". That means the way ONE verse is construed needs to go along with all the other verses on a subject.
Picking one isolated verse to build a doctrine on, while ignoring many others, is not wise, leads followers to confusion and eventual error. Isaiah teaches us to uncover the truth, "... line upon line, precept upon precept..." Paul says, "These things were not done in a corner." If you find something ANYWHERE in the Bible that makes your theory about what you find somewhere ELSE a little shaky, it's probably time to re figure and continue digging and studying:
"Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth."
(II Timothy 2:15)
@@reyhudson563 A "private interpretation" is one that is made by one who DOESN'T think critically, who HOLDS ON TO exterior presuppositions, and who DOESN'T study for oneself, but listens to other's opinions.
An example of this is conflating scriptures to make the time of Jacob's trouble, the seventieth week of Daniel, the wrath of God, the tribulation, the hour of trial all refer to the same seven year time period at the end of history.
Reading your list about what "private interpretation" might be throws a lot of stuff into the kitchen sink. Bible says, "...one believeth he may eat all things; another eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth judge him that eateth not, neither him that eateth not judge him that eateth." (Romans 14)
Nobody should be so cock sure about what another guy considers "private interpretation". Bible's a big book! There are MANY concepts and some theories we can't really be sure about. (Jehovah's Witnesses have it all figured out), but the rest of us have take it by faith (and some stuff with a grain of salt.)
Some things we CAN be sure of; other things we'll not understand until we're there , with Jesus, face to face.
What I believe: (not by isolated scriptures but by a life long of study and gleaning knowledge from VERY reputable teachers as well.)
1. The great tribulation is NOT "the last seven years" but rather the last HALF of those seven years.
I believe Jesus, Himself told us this in Matthew 24 when He tells us we should READ what Daniel tells us concerning the abomination of desolation. (Daniel 9:27 and 11:31) He also tells us we should "UNDERSTAND".
2. There are MANY places, throughout the scriptures which point to these events which I have made the basis of my understanding.
I like MANY of the teachings of this man (video), however, on this one point, I do not agree. So who's "interpretating privately", he or I?
I guess we'll have to work a lot of things out when we get to 'em.
Holy Spirit is a teacher and Jesus said He would guide us in all truth, but whoever thinks they know how to hang a horn on EVERY beast, might find out they're mistaken about a couple of things before they GET there.
Wrong, both of you who responded to the original post. Peter was not speaking of how one interprets the written Word, he was talking about the prophets writing what they received from God and not writing from themselves. Read the verse again.... carefully.
Since i've heard Steves teaching before, my favorit part of this video is at the end when the man in the audience says "now that I have to get a spiritual root canal" LOLOL Now that..... is a great description.
What a blessing it is to have these teachings of STeve Gregg, God bless him and those putting all of this together for us to listen and grow in God's Word renewing our minds and souls to be more like Jesus
Awesome 😎 content thank you !
Halfway through I realized I've had Steve Gregg's "4 Views of Revelation" on my shelf for 20 + years now.
It's GREAT to hear him preach.
Truly, he's forgotten more than I know.
But I'm gonna watch & study more to catch up in a hurry.
Godspeed, Brothers !
Great teaching. I am a Postmil but have alot in common with your views. I left an Independent Baptist Fundamentalist church a year ago because of the dispensationalism.
The Word speaks for itself
Amen!!!
What a great video and presentation of the differing views on tribulation passages. Thank you for sharing with us!
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This definitely raises some questions as far as our time and what are we to expect eschatologically. But I think what Steve spoke about is damn near irrefutable. I mean, yea you could speculate about assuming the times are symbolic or just not literal and argue for or against that. But still. That would open up having to debate further other points. Like the 70th week ect. I think Steve made an excellent argument for the truth of the revelation and how so many people have it wrong. Again. I still have to ask. Well what about us? What does this mean for us today? But I can’t hold an argument to this. I can’t see how anyone else’s idea that differs could stand to this. Unless they were willing to refute every single point with a better one. And I see that argument falling like a house of cards. Very pleasing lecture. And tbh I could care less as far as my personal views are concerned. I’m not married to theology. I’m not “taken like the wind” by everything I’m told. If it doesn’t add up it doesn’t add up. Like no Jesus came back in 70AD spiritual. Bull. Nonsense. There’s no evidence for that. But if someone provides a lecture like this. With this level of knowledge and biblical backing idc about changing my theology. Hell. Recently I’ve been more of a premillennial, post trib mentality. Because I thought the arguments I heard for it were better than a lot of other views. But listening to this and other of Steve’s lectures has definitely changed my mind some. And I’m not upset by it in the slightest because I want truth and knowledge. Idc about about “being right”. Great lecture. Great objective teaching and reasoning. It’s gunna be a shame when a pre trib rapture doesn’t happen and people lose their mind. Especially because people think the church is too valuable to endure some horrific tribulation. As if the beheaded and crucified apostles were less valuable than Emily and justin in California who post superficial status about faith and the rapture on ig and how God wouldn’t let them go through that. Obviously I’m speaking hypothetically. But it’s the truth. People think we’re too special. Yet the apostles were beheaded and crucified. We’re the Israelites raptured out of Egypt? No. Did they suffer the plagues. Also no. They were protected. Why people think it would be any different now I don’t understand. So i definitely do not believe in pre trib rapture. I believe it is at the second coming. Now of course that opens up the argument about if the church is raptured to the sky to meet the lord and rerun to the earth with him than what would be the w point of then separating the sheep and the goats. But when you look at the wording of that parable. It becomes clear that parable is widely misunderstood. Read it carefully. You’ll see what I’m talking about. As for the millennium. Idk. I’m not sure exactly where I stand on that. But I am definitely loving Steve’s teachings and how objective he is. I think to many people want their theology to be right. Rather than trying to figure out what theology is right and adapting to it. Which is what I try to do. Again not being carried away by every passing teaching but when a certain idea or theology better explains something than another and has credible biblical reasoning I think it’s irresponsible not to adapt or evolve to that. I think it’s equally irresponsible to be carried away by every passing teaching with no solid reasoning as it is to be so married to a theology that you can’t accept if something better comes and pokes a bunch of holes in yours. I think the responsible thing is to seek the most educated and biblical solid theology and that it’s a journey that requires evolution and adaptation in our part. We must be willing to adapt to better more biblical understandings and theologies. And this is definitely on that path. Love it.
I too made decisions based on the shortness of the time. What a massive mistake.
I have been preaching almost everything he said with nobody to collaborate it, so it was very good to hear this. If I could add one thing I have been preaching is the 70 weeks was a time of God's covenant with the Israeli people. When the church began it was entirely Jewish. Where things changed was God sent an angel to a man from Roman centurion of the Italian band. Peter went to him in Acts 10 and a gentile, not a Jewish proselyte received the Holy Ghost. That changed the covenant from Jewish to universal. Up to then salvation was of the Jews, you had to become a proselyte. Now the Jew must become a Christian to be saved. There is no Jewish covenant today, nor will be again. Everything is in Jesus.
Great job Steve, superbly done.
😂 "These would be great scriptures to support the pre-tribulation rapture if there was actually a verse that said it!" I love it brother!
I’m impressed! This was excellent , thank you. This topic is always so biased that I stay away from it usually.
Thank you, brother!!! Just to add to what you went over, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8 expounds on the verse in 1 Thessalonians 4. On the day of the Lord, we will be caught up in the twinkling of an eye. Then, in second Thessalonians, it says the day of the Lord will not come until the apostasy, and the revealing of the sun of perdition, happens first. So clearly that tells us that we will not be taken up until the fall away, and the antichrist is revealed. Further pointing out that there’s no pre-trib rapture🤗♥️🤗 Thanks for all your content on this channel!! So glad my hubby found you!
Steve I want to praise our Father for the encouragement I have received through you. I have been so desperate to see that most of the church is fooled by pre trib and I just could not understand why they could not see the answer plainly in scripture???? And in my heart I saw the great danger in that the church would be caught off gaurd and put in a position to deny their Lord and take the mark once they realized the tribulation was at hand and that Jesus did not save them before it as they were taught. The Lord jas put a real burden on my heart for this. I want to be able to expose the lies of false doctrine and bring God's children in to truth. Please pray for me. It is so encouraging to see you decisively preaching truth God bless you! Your sermons on divorce and remarriage were a HUGE blessing to me as the enemy tried to accuse me of being in adultery while faithfully married. I must say your teachings on that subject seems to be truly rightly dividing the word. Praise God! My wife was abused and then cheated on and her husband then filed for divorce. She was faithful and waited and prayed for reconciliation and transformation but ultimately was then divorced. I had never been married before. It is so sad to see the devil and even the church twisting the Word of God in order to try to deny beaten and broken souls who were not at fault for grounds of biblical divorce. That is not the heart of God. He is close to the broken hearted and provides them tender mercies! Praise Jesus!
I also have felt the same way. I think the big falling away, the apostacy, the rebellion spoken of in 2 Thessalonians which the Bible says must happen first, before we are gathered up to heaven, could very well be because of the pre-trib teaching. Once those who believed in pre-trib realize that they have been deceived and misled, I think they will become angry and wonder what else they were lied to about. This will cause them of weak faith to fall away and rebel from the faith and the church. God has put this on my heart. But when I share my concerns with them, I am met with a lot of hostility, like how dare I question the teaching or their faith. I guess we shall see. I keep hoping I'm wrong. I am also hoping to learn more so I can learn a way to present truth in a way in which they will hear me. I'm grateful for Steve and others like him
Proving your biblical views through the eyes of the person who doesn't already believe is a powerful enough statement to keep me here through to the end.
I'm never convinced that the biblical arguments of a video I'm watching will be considerate of the people who don't already believe, so I'm wary to commit to any of them.
We who are in Christ have been saved from the wrath of god...period😇😇
Just as His disciples were encouraged with the Holy Spirit within, so will we be encouraged through any trial or tribulation when we put Jesus Christ above all else, Amen, praise God!
I’m inclined to lean on the teaching of the early church fathers. Pre-trib did not exist.
When Darby came out with this ‘teaching’ luminaries like Charles Spurgeon and George Muller denounced him as a heretic. Further, Schofield was a crook who did jail time while promoting their ‘new’ teaching.
Look at the origins of pre-trib teaching. Start there…
We are not appointed to wrath. True enough. But when does regular tribulations end, and the wrath of God begin?? If you take an honest look at scripture you will see that the wrath of God doesn't come until after the abomination of desolation happens as spoken of in the book of Daniel and after the persecution of the saints by the antichrist. As far as I can see, the Rapture probably happens after seal 6 but before seal 7. I could be a little off on that last point though. But it's definitely Not pre-trib
Revelation has been being fulfilled since the 300 AD. We’ve been led to believe that all of church history since Jesus came is neglected and everything happens in a 7 yr period right before Jesus returns.
John’s vision starts with what shortly will come to pass.
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This whole futurist fulfillment of Revelation was created intentionally during the counter reformation. Same w/ the preterist view that everything had already been fulfilled in 70AD. Although that time was much more important than most of us thought that have been taught wrongly.
Once I committed to seeing the truth no matter where it led me instead of defending a belief, my entire understanding of Scripture changed. God is good!
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Who is opening the seals though, is it the Lamb of God, or Satan? It is the Lamb of God, and he is the one that starts the tribulation, not satan.
Excellent wonderful teaching!! He describes my experience exactly. There are no scriptures which say the Rapture is pre-trib. The pre-trib uses Scriptures for their interpretation which they are proof texts, but actually only make sense as proof texts if you already believe in the pre-trib point of view. Then the pre-trib people add their opinion to scripture and make logical conclusions from there. This is how they get off point.
@triciachampine- Same for me. Wait til you go (unless you already have)where it will take you if you research futurism/preterism/historicism.
I knew that there had to be more deception in the church. When researching Darby, Scofield etc I dug deep and found that the whole future AC, tribulation period, and actually most of what is described in Revelation has been taught wrong intentionally.
In the 1500’s Jesuit Francisco Ribera came up with the futurist view. He threw the 70th week of Daniel into the far future as part of the counter reformation. Manuel De Lacunza then introduced the preterist view. The Historicist view was believed by every one of the Reformers.
If you look up H. Grattan Guinness he has great books (late 1800’s)
It’s amazing what I learned and how incredibly accurate prophecy has been fulfilled.
Wow!! Just wow. This makes perfect sense!
Actualy the origin of dispensationalism is before Darby. It was written by the jesuit Manuel Lacunza and published under the pen name Juan Josaphat Ben-Ezra, and his publication was titled (in english) "The coming of the Messiah in Majesty and Glory". This was picked up by Edward Irving and translated to english by him in 1827
Edward Irwing was teaching this at the Albury conferences, and there John Darby got in contact with the theories. It was repackaged by Darby in his theosofical magic writings, and this was put in the Scofield reference bible. This whole thing is as all false doctrines iriginated from a jesuit pen. Also the Baron Rothschild financed Scofield, printed the bible in his Oxford Student Press, and financed the free distribution via D.L.Moody Bible institute to all american pastors, bible teachers, bible schools and everywhere. Thereby the King James Bible too got corrupted by Scofields taking in Wescott & Hort notes and Darby doctrines. Part of the dispensationalism uses the futurism invented by the jesuit priest Francisco Ribera. Baron Rothschild that financed Scofield is the same one that the Balfour declaration was styled to. This has all the hallmarks of the mother harlot putting out her daughters into the world.
that doesnt mean the original KJV 1611 is corrupt
@@shanemcguire5347 that does absolutely not make the KJV corrupt. However, when people use the invented nonsence as having higher weight than the word itself, we have a problem of cunningly deviced fables by men and possibly doctrines of devils.
People who believe dispensationalism do not have any biblical basis for their teachings. It all comes from comments and manmade interpretations, not backed by prophesy nor testimony. There is no light in them, and the bible these comments are added to, is ignored in favour of the interpretations given, sadly.
@shane, no I don’t believe he’s saying the AV KJV is corrupt. Scofield not only had his reference Bible distributed to all seminaries, churches etc but his footnotes are included in different Bibles. His “bible” was responsible for the teachings of the Zionist movement.
@@theodorjoensenSo true, the only way to get it out, was using the KJV, and putting footnotes so man would read it into the text.
Yup. Jesuits which I conclude are actual Jews who are the synagogue of Satan seeking to pervert the way. Also the freemasons belong to this group. All liars.
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I'm with Steve on most of this. I do believe the bible teaches a future time when there's a1000 year reign of Christ on earth and the devil is bound during that time.
Thanks heaps.
Could Jesus have fulfilled the 31/2 years in his earthly ministry, the first half of the 70th week , his sacrifice ended the sacrifice, made a covenant with many, Perhaps Jesus already did these things
Obviously the 1st 3.5 years was about Jesus' time on earth. The 2nd 3.5 years is debatable.
Am I wrong, or did John not just write what the Angel revealed to him. He couldn't have been taking into consideration the culture or times? And to think that revelations is past, are you saying we are living in a new world and new heavens now?
Is it possible there are parallel prophecies? Like revelation events already happened in the past but they do foreshadow things thst will happen in the future?
Where would it say that these things have to happen again? If it happens once, as the prophecy foretold, why does one have to look for a future fulfillment?
Absolutely, Biblical Typology is a legitimate help in determining correct doctrine and harmonising scripture. I wonder if Steve comments or teaches on Typology in any of his talks.?
It is called Recapitulation and I would love to hear Steve's thoughts on this.
After all of this video watching ,NOW I finally know what is a dispensationalist .
fantastic, Revelation says: time, times and half a time, somehow that is translated to 3.5 years but what if it means something else? a time, a times and half a time (not years but ages) ... I have no issues with some futurism in revelation, the problem is the pre trib dispensationalism, the dual covenant with Jews, the seven years, etc
He tells us many things he doesn't believe - what are the things he does believe????
Mamy prophecies have a current fulfillment and a future fulfillment.
Steve, I doubt you do, but I subscribe to the historicist view of revelation. I don't have all points and issues within that approach nailed down, but I believe the approach is correct. I fully support your views on the 70 weeks and that tribulation, even the great tribulation are terms related to testing of Christians. But if we see Revelation as a literal history, expressed in symbolic terms, of the time from John's writing to the present and beyond, than those 1st Century churches, and the people who belonged to them, are certainly parts of a story which begins to be told more or less immediately from their time onward, such that I don't think we need to get hung up on the fact that those churches largely no longer exist. They did exist in John's time and, from the historicist perspective, the story of Revelation unfolds from their time onward.
Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order )
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet?
He comes on a horse in chapter 19.
Chapter 20?
Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1?
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46.
Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked?
Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner.
Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book.
The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
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Revelation 20: Does your interpretation agree with all other scripture?
(Chronological or Recapitulation?) (Literal vs. Figurative?)
Based on the following scripture, will immortals and mortals both live on earth for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ? Will there be renewed animal sacrifices in earthly Jerusalem for 1,000 years after the Second Coming of Christ? Will Christ conduct funeral services for mortals killed in accidents many years after His Second Coming? Graveyards needed?
Can the following questions be examined without ridicule, and condemnation, based on the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and Hebrews 12:18-24?
Can the number 1,000 be used in a symbolic manner? Psalm 50:10
Does an angel with a key come from heaven and open the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2? Why did the angel have to unlock the pit if it was not locked previously?
Who is the king of the angels in the bottomless pit found in Revelation 9:11?
Are some of the angels “bound” in some manner in Revelation 9:14?
If the beast comes up out of the pit in Revelation 11:7, where is the beast before then?
John sees “souls” at the beginning of Revelation chapter 20.
Are these the same “souls” found in Revelation 6:9-11?
Is the “first resurrection” in Revelation 20:5 the first bodily resurrection in the Book of Revelation? (Rev. 11:11) Are there two different types of resurrections in John chapter 5?
John 5:24 (Spiritual) ? Were you dead, and now you are alive?
John 5:27-30 Christ describes the bodily resurrection and “hour” of judgment of “all” the dead.
Who is the “strong man” who is bound in Matthew 12:26-29?
How is Satan “bound” in Revelation 20:3?
How many mortals are left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46?
Isaiah 65:17-25? Are people really dying in verse 20? Context, Context, Context…
The New Heavens and New Earth are found at the beginning of the passage, and the end of the curse is found at the end of the passage.
What happens if verse 20 begins with a negative statement? "There will be no more..."
Was Paul expecting Christ to return "in flaming fire", taking vengeance on those who do not know God in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10? How would mortals survive this fire?
Does the fire come at the end of Revelation 20?
Did Paul expect both the living and the dead to be judged at the appearing of Christ, in 2 Timothy 4:1?
When is the judgment of the dead in Revelation 20? Is it the same judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:18?
What is the restitution of all things at the return of Christ in Acts 3:20-21?
Will Christ's sacrifice at Calvary also reverse the curse, at His return?
Does death die at the last trumpet in 1 Corinthians 15:50-55?
Why did Jesus correct the woman at the well when she said earthly Jerusalem was the place to worship? See John 4:20-24.
Why did Paul say the Jerusalem above is our “mother” in Galatians 4:24-31?
What is the inheritance of the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Is the third temple found in 1 Peter 2:4-10? Is this temple just as real as a temple made of earthly stones?
What was Peter expecting on the day of the Lord when He comes as a thief in 2 Peter 3:10-13?
Do we find the judgment of both the living and the dead at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, in Revelation 11:15-18? Why do most preachers ignore the time of the judgment of the dead, with reward for some, and destruction for others in Revelation 11:18? What does it prove about the chronology of the Book of Revelation?
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Is there a correlation between Revelation 20 and earlier passages in the Book of Revelation?
Is Revelation chapter 20 another example of “Recapitulation”?
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev_18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Judgment Before the Great White Throne.
Rev_19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
@@SpotterVideo good questions…
God does not bring plague on the wicked and spare the righteous, while he shines his son on both.
The God of the Jews is a god of vengeance, but the God of Jesus is love, and who is love cannot hate. Period
I love babies therefore I hate abortion, I love Jews therefore I hated antisemitism, I love black people therefore I hate slavery and prejudice.
God loves righteousness therefore He hates unrighteousness, He loves holiness therefore He hates wickedness...your statement is made without really thinking about what you were saying.
2Th 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
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I think "the last day" refers to the last day of the Old Testament covenant. We are now in the "never ending" age of Christ as King over His New Covenant Spirit Filled people.
Daniel 9.25 itself "answers" the time of the re-building history of the first "seven weeks," and only THEN does the text proceed,
in verse 26, to the next "62 weeks," coming unto Messiah. The "prince" of the next sevens doesn't "immediately" follow,
even if he IS Titus of Rome, for yet another generation of Jews, nor do his "People." Daniel 11, all the way up to chapter 12 verse 4,
tells us specifically that "time " will pass before we reach the End. The Angel calls this TIME, as Jesus also says, "Such as never was
since there was a nation, even to that time." Pretty exclusive moment! And it's ALL in the text, remarkably!
But Jews don’t believe Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice, so why would the Jews not start sacrificing again?
One of the reasons why Dispensationalism spread quickly in America was partly due to the Civil War. The populace was eager to accept a doctrine of Christians getting out of their tribulations.
About the 3 1/2 years we could determine the time frame at least approximately from the time Daniel spoke about to seal the prophecy until the time John wrote about to open the seal.
Great teaching that should be preached in every building holding people calling themselves Christians that still believe in a pretrib rapture. Its hard for me to believe that so many are deceived and blinded by this false theology...just amazing because its clearly false, and that just goes to show that Believers do not read their bibles! I pray my pretrib friends will shake this lie off, and live freely without the threat...yes, I call it a threat, because it creates fear of living fully..ie. have no children, no college, etc., as you said. Christians, if you're going to use a commentary, please use one written by early church fathers, like Matthew Henry...you will never see a pretrib rapture, or a 7 year tribulation, mentioned, and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth...He will speak to you if you'll listen.
I will not point a finger at those who can't see. I was one of those Christians, UNTIL reading a passage one day(one that i read many times) and GOD removed the veil from my eyes. That started my journey. That is what i love about the Bible. You can read a passage many times and then one day you read it differently. GOD's timing is perfect as to when HE shows you what HE desires you to understand. GOD bless us all!!!
Very good; now you need to understand that the kingdom of God was the first 1000 yrs of the Christian age beginning on the day of Pentecost and ends when the Antichrist had taken power over the world. The Antichrist is speaking about the Roman Catholic Church who made war against the saints and forbid the owning or reading of scriptures. The early church knew this and mentioned it in their discourses. There will not be a future 7 year Tribulation. It will be the same old tribulation that we have always put up with and there will not be a future Millennial rein of Christ. When Jesus comes it will be the last day and He will take out of this world those who are born of the Spirit and He will destroy the world by fire. The kingdom of God is a Spiritual kingdom, which most people disregard, not an earthly kingdom and those that are a part of it are born of the water and of the Spirit. Jesus said to Nicodemus "except you are born of the water and of the Spirit you cannot enter into the Kingdom of God." Peter in the second chapter of Acts lets us know how this is accomplished in Acts 2:38. The Holy Ghost always manifests itself by speaking through the mouth of those receiving it in a heavenly language. There will be a Judgment after the world is destroyed. Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Actually, my pre-trib belief makes me want to be ready, because Jesus can come at any time, there will be no warning. Also, I don't understand this fascination with being here for the tribulation. Are we not warned?:
Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
Amo 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
@@ricoyochanan I think that you have confused the day of the Lord, which is the judgement of God on those who have rebelled against him and rejected his son, with the tribulation of the saints which is at the hand of the antichrist. And I don’t know of anyone is fascinated or looking forward to it like it’s going to be a vacation 😂
I hve never believed in that. I never understood where Christians see a pretrib rapture 😳 where the Lord Himself clearly states that He will come to get us at the very end. Thats why Jesus said “those that endure to the end will be saved” if your end is before, well, so be it .. but there is no getting out easy .. everybody will be tested .. period !!!
But unfortunately the greater majority of the American church believes in all of this .. its their sacred cow 🙄
In my own reading of Daniel and thinking of how it fit in with history, I always just assumed the 3.5 years = ~35 years from Jesus’s birth to death, then 35 years until Jerusalem’s destruction to complete the 70th week. I guess the 1 remaining “week” doesn’t really fit, though because there’s no reference to suddenly multiplying the week by 10
The tribulation is listening to folks talk about the rapture.
Paul warned of a different gospel being preached. He was correct.
It's easy to teach the same Gospel message, but teach bad theology at the same time. If they teach Jesus' death and resurrection, but twist prophecy to work in the agenda of current and/or future events.... They leave the sheep focused on current events and unsound doctrine. God allows people to chase after it because they aren't focused on their hearts. They say Lord Lord but their hearts are far from me. Same Gospel message, with a major distraction and deception.
We are now in the last day, the last day is 1000 years long plus 7 years. Adam had the first 1000 years, Jesus has the last 1000 years of history. It’s not about persecution it’s about the wrath of God. Pray that you escape these things.
I agree with the study of this gentleman basically with everything but one thing it keeps coming to my mind is that if Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega and the word of God will forever be even after the Earth and the Heavens passed the Word will always be eternally that makes me think that there still some sort of interpretation for future as well as for the past and present times.
Dear Brother in Christ there never was or will be a time of tribulation like that of the Ecclesia during The Great Tearable Tribulation that John in Rev.1 was a fellow brother in. This Tribulation was only "cut short" because the Roman Empire put all their effort in the war against Jerusalem, bringing it there to the Jews.
From 70 A.D up until now
Matthew 24 Jesus was talking about the total destruction of the Temple and the near destruction of the people as well. 70 AD was the great tribulation.
The KJV never uses the words “The great tribulation” anywhere - including Rev 7:14
I believe when Paul referred to the temple of God he was talking about a temple dedicated to God that wasn't in Jerusalem ( Israel) and he was referring to one of the 7 churches John talked about in Revelations and that temple was Hagia Sophia
Supposedly "Apostacia" meant "joyful gathering in the 1500's, Geneva Bible times, 2 Thes 2, not 'falling away "
I agree with you on the time limit part of the tribulation but as a biblical historian an expert on the early Ante-nicene Church I can tell you that you are 100% wrong about what the early church view of Revelation was. They believed absolutely that it was about the time right before the end of all things and judgment. The only thing they disagreed on was whether the millennial reign of Christ was literal or figurative.
one thing is for sure according to daniel 9, there is 490 years given to Israel, 483 have passed and happened there is one 7 year period left, I no longer see a pre-trib rapture, But I do see a pre-wrath rapture, the question is when does God's wrath start vs the beasts persecution ( which lasts 3.5 years)
You’re getting closer 😊
Dispensationalism makes Daniel a false prophet as the 70 weeks have come and gone. If you use Cyrus's decree in 538 BC, the 70 weeks ended in 48BC. If you use Darius's decree in 520BC, the 70 weeks ended in 30BC. If you use the first decree by Artaxerxes in 457BC, the 70 weeks ended in 33AD. If you use the second decree by Artaxerxes in 444BC, then the 70 weeks ended in 46AD. So which one was it? Dispensationalism says that they 70th week is postponed, thus making Daniel a false prophet as what Daniel said has not come to pass. (what a prophet speaks comes true=true prophet; what a prophet speaks does not come to pass=false prophet--Dt 18:19-22)
Dispensationalism is simply one man's made up view of what the end times is supposed to look like. It was made up in the 1830's by John Nelson Darby. Take off this one man's view and just simply read the Bible without the commentaries and the grid that this view makes you read the Bible through.
What about that “times, times and half a time” people are always talking about? Does he cover that in here?
Some of what he says makes sense, however, he excuses the miraculous.
Have people changed the word resurrection into the word rapture? Isn't there only one resurrection.
Right...same thing to me...at His second coming .
The word Shabat in the Hebrew is in Daniel 927 for the word cease. Jesus put to rest (Sabbath) the need for animal sacrifices ever again. Daniel 926a says Jesus will die after the 69 weeks were done so that puts his ministry into the 70th week. Also, the pronoun he in Daniel 927 has an antecedent grammatically which points back to the messiah or Titus or both combined.
Do we not ultimately go through tribulations for the benefit of others . Isn't that the end goal of Pauls thorn in his side and his many sufferings ? Didn't Christ leave us his example ? And in this way we glorify the Father .
Didn't Job ultimately suffer for the end result of his friends and our inlightenment ?
When is someone going to read John 14 and the Jewish wedding, and the church in Philadelphia avoiding the hour of testing on the world. You are reading someone’s mail you are not invited. How many people did you invite to your wedding.? How many people did you invite to the honeymoon?
Daniel does cover it: Jesus was the Temple... God left the Temple/Jewish non-believers the day Jesus was crucified...
If you have the Holy Spirit and GODS word what else do you need?
The church. God will never give you everything you need directly from him. He will use others, that's the essence of love. Can you love God stranded on an island? No.
@@scottwojackwhat if you are going to a very false teaching earthly church? Fortunately, the small one I attend isn't, but there are many.
@@sunnydaze1185 That really depends on what level of error is being taught. No matter where you go you will have some people with bad teaching, but if the people love one another and do not make differences in understanding scripture a litmus test then you we will have to live with some error.
@@scottwojack True, true...I guess I would just add, even more important than the members loving each other( or at least as important), is the true gospel of Christ that brings salvation being understood by the church leadership and members. The essentials being agreed upon.
Agree, no " perfect" churches.
My guess of ,"ten days of tribulation" might be found in the meaning of number "10" throughout scripture . Possibly the numeral 10 represents ,"measurement of responsibility" as in 10 commandments would be the measurement of responsibility for man to enter kingdom of God .Or ten times Pharoah changed his mind on releasing jews which was his measurement of responsibility as ordained by God .
Imaginary pretty much covers it.
Minute 14…..That’s like saying the trinity doesn’t exist because the Bible doesn’t say the word Trinity. But I don’t know what I believe about the tribulation to be honest and I don’t think it really matters :-) but I will continue to listen :-)
If you assert that Matt 24:1-23 has already happened, indeed in the generation of those living at the time, how do we make sense of the rest of Matt which tells us what will happen immediately after the tribulation? 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Are we supposed to believe that the Son of Man returned on the clouds and we just missed it?
None of this will happen until the man of perdition is revealed. That ends pretrib nonsense.
My last name is Darby. Don't know if related to J.N.D. or not.
So earth could go on for ten thousand more years, or a million years? We are not ‘winding down’ anytime soon?
King James, version does not say The great tribulation in revelation but tribulation
verse 26 - after 62 weeks the Messiah shall be cut off - therefore the death of the Messiah fall on the last week.
5 previous kings or 5 kingdoms?
Good question Shelly.
I used to adhere to the Roman Emperors being the heads but not anymore after further study.
I have now come to believe that it was 6 kingdoms that were fallen and one is to come was the city of Jerusalem itself.
1st century Jerusalem that was destroyed in 70 AD. Because they had a king over them who comes out of the 'abyss' Revelation 11.
The physical earthly temple was still standing.
The 7 kings were not just real men but an evil spirit ruled through one of them in the time of those kingdoms.
Beginning from the tower of Babel;
Sumerian = Nimrod
Egyptian = The evil pharaoh that wanted to destroy God's people
Babylonian = King Nebuchadnezzar, wanting to destroy God's people
Medeo-Persian = Haman verses Queen Esther/God's people
Greeks = Antiochus Epiphanes, wanting to destroy God's people
Romans = Nero Caesar, wanting to destroy the real church of God's people. [Christians]
The kingdom of the Jews when they went full on in rebellion to God and Jesus, their Messiah = Eleasar Ben Simon
plus the 10 horns/kings were the 10 leaders of the factions recorded by Josephus in 'Wars of the Jews'.
The rebellion lasted for 3 1/2 years when the city was shut up and abhorrent atrocities occurred in the city.
The siege against Jerusalem lasted for 5 months with Titus and the Roman armies.
All recorded by Josephus in 'Wars of the Jews'. Reading his account was like reading Matthew 24 & Mark 13 & Luke 21
Isn't the 8th king of the 7?
there is a different tribulation before the second coming but what Jesus said in Matthew 24:37 "as in the days of noah" they enjoy life not knowing they are heading wrath of God so they are in great tribulation
Doesn't the number of a man have to be future? The 1st beast?
Brother Steve. Love what you are doing in seeking to dismantle dispensationalism. you state that your 20 verses in support of it came up short in your own mind as saying there was a pre trip rapture. I challenge you to reevaluate your trinitarian views by the same method. There is not a single verse that states such a belief to be truth. there are however many which state the opposite. Many of which can be found in the revelation. hope you can get there.
Good comment. I just saw this video and was thinking the EXACT thing. The "Trinity" concept is nowhere to be found in Scripture UNLESS, as Steve himself has said, one "comes in" or "assumes" a trio of persons each being God. I questioned the "Trinity" when I realized that I was only believing a doctrine which I was TAUGHT as a child and which was written, not in Scripture, but in the Roman Catholic Catechism, with diagrams and all.
What I found in Scripture is that Yahweh God was the ONE and ONLY Singular Person God of the Patriarchs of the OT. His Son, the Lord (not God) Jesus Christ was CONCEIVED (came into existence) and was BORN 2,000 years ago, in other words, he was NOT a "pre-existent" Being of any sort. Jesus is God's "only begotten" HUMAN Son, God's Heir, the Messiah, the Son of Man, the Son of David, the King of kings, the Lord of lords, BUT NOT GOD.
Just as Steve has proposed, that many verses CAN BE interpreted to mean that Jesus is God...IF you come in to the matter with that Idea ALREADY in your HEAD. We can only wait on the LORD's patience in order to give HUMBLE men, which I believe Steve to be, awareness of the DECEPTION of a so called "Trinity".
@@paulnavarro3822 Paul, you are only half way there. The thing about your comment I will address is the fact that Jesus is in fact God.
born as the son of God as a very important part of his plan as to how he would reveal himself to the world. If he would have come from heaven on wings of angels for all to see, how would he then have provided atonement. his death was paramount to his coming, and his clandestined manner assured it. He had to look just like he did and have he history of humanhood to do it. His railing on the apostates of the day - with the appearance of a lowly carpenter - instigated their hatred. He knew what it was that would set them off. Consider what happened in his home town when he declared "this day is this scripture fulfilled in your hearing". They tried to murder him right on the spot. If you believe that he was in fact sinless, then his diety is beyond question. He is God revealed in flesh for the purpose of redemption. the jews killed the living God as foretold. I believe the modalist view of God is correct. God revealing himself in 3 different ways. Jesus said he would send the comforter then followed that with " I will not leave you comfortless, I will come unto you" and on the day of Pentecost they were all filled with the spirit of Jesus Christ. This whole idea that Jesus said he was God to his disciples, was the stumbling block for Thomas's unbelief IMHO. ( He who has seen me has seen the father... and Have i been with you so long and yet you still don't know me - the father ) Thomas declaration upon seeing the resurrected body was - in Hebrew - MY JEHOVAH AND MY ELOHEEM. Thomas finally got it. His God became this man of low esteem. God works in mysteries for those of us who are of spiritual minds to discover, and there are few of us. I wrote a book that covers this material in detail from the final word of God for us, the Revelation. On Amazon "THE BOOK OF THE REVELATION, THE OVERCOMER AND THE APOSTASY". I hope it will help you in your quest for this understanding.
@@dsheppard8492- Keeping with the video and Steve's thoughts and arguments against a supposed "Seven Year Tribulation", basically he has said that such an IDEA or NOTION is NOT in Scripture. In other words, there is NOTHING WRITTEN in Scripture which actually EXPOUNDS on a "Seven Year Tribulation". It should be SIMPLE to understand Steve's logic. In other words, if the Scriptures do not EXPOUND on a particular SUBJECT, e.gs., trinity, purgatory, suspended 70th "week" of Daniel, a not yet revealed future "Antichrist", etc., then how can people ASSERT those things as "Biblical Doctrines"? They CANNOT! Those "beliefs" are mere ASSUMPTIONS!
In contrast, anyone can ASSERT - without any doubt whatsoever, without the need of a "theologian's" EXPLANATION - just by READING the Scriptures, that there is ONLY ONE (Singular) God who's name is YHWH. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, was ONE Single Being; He always referred to Himself in the First Person Singular. Even an unbeliever by simply READING the Scriptures will see that they speak about a Singular God. The other thing he will notice is that neither Moses, nor the Prophets, nor the Psalms, nor the "Gospel" writers, nor the Apostles, nor Paul, nor any other Biblical Author, has any thing to say about a God who supposedly BECAME another "person" or TOOK ON a different Identity.
John 1:1 along with John 1:14 are used to supposedly "prove" that "Jesus WAS God" and that "God BECAME Jesus", which is plain outright "circular reasoning". In fact, the verses says NOTHING about "Jesus BEING God" nor of "God BECOMING Jesus" or somehow "changing" from ONE Person/Identity to ANOTHER Person/Identity. What those verses do assert is, that which was "made flesh", which was "made manifest" to the World, was God's WORD, i.e., SOMETHING which belonged specifically to Himself. Jesus, the Human Son of God, at age 30, BEGAN to MANIFEST God's (his Father in Heaven) GLORY through the WORD which he BEGAN to SPEAK to the World.
There is no indication in the previously discussed verses to suggest that God either "became" a man or that God "changed" himself into man, which in fact is the Roman Catholic notion of an "Incarnation". What did occur is like the following example:
Around 1963, Clint Ballard Jr., ( a one time song writer and friend of mine) wrote a song which was performed by various artists. They were OK performances, however, it was not UNTIL 1975 that IT "was made" a number one hit song in America, when Linda Ronstadt sang her version. The "whole world" so to speak HEARD Clint's SONG through the VOICE of Linda. What BECAME a "hit"? What was MANIFESTED? Was it Clint himself? Was it Linda herself? No, neither. Each already had their Status/Position in life. What was "made flesh"? What became a hit? It was that which was HEARD throughout the world, THE SONG ITSELF as HEARD through the VOICE of Linda Ronstadt.
When Jesus SPOKE he SPOKE God's WORDS like no man had ever done before him. He not only SPOKE God's WORDS he was a PIVOTAL subject of God's WORD. Jesus was the ULTIMATE VOICE of God through his preaching and he was to make ATONEMENT for sin for all of mankind via his death on the "cross"; God "sent" His Son (two distinct individuals involved in the work of redemption, not just one) to RECONCILE the world unto Himself. God's SON - not God Himself - the IMMORTAL Human Jesus Christ, paid the penalty for sin, 2000 years ago, on Calvary, in Judea, on Earth, while God the Father looked on from Heaven. Jesus cried to his Father IN HEAVEN! Jesus was DEAD for three days and three nights and in the Grave UNTIL God the Father, from Heaven, RAISED him from the dead. Jesus did not raise himself from the Grave, dead people can do NOTHING!
As Steve's logic goes, there are no TWO Persons, nor THREE Persons, "in God", or whichever way anyone would like to say it, SPOKEN about in Scripture. The "Apostle to the Gentiles" who went about giving people the KNOWLEDGE of God NEVER said a word about a One-ness God, or a Two-ness God, or a Three-ness God, or any other kind of MULTI-PERSONALITIES God. Neither did he use phrases such as "the Father AS the Father" nor "the Son AS the Son", which phrases the One-ness professors are so fond of using because they have to INVENT a new notion/idea, not found in Scripture, to defend their positions.
I am quite familiar with y'alls NOTIONS about a One-ness God. I have viewed many videos by Ritchie, he was a brilliant man and quite knowledgeable both of Scripture and the World. I learned much about the fallacies of "trinitarianism" ( I was a so called "trinitarian" as most so called Christians are) from him but I also had many a contention with him on You Tube regarding the "Modalist" position, which I have found to be quite UNTENABLE and CONTRARY to Scripture simply because the One-ness doctrine is not a Biblical Doctrine. Either there is ONLY ONE Singular God, YHWH, or the Scriptures and Jesus are BOTH in error, for Jesus says, that there is ONLY ONE (Singular)TRUE God and that God is His Father, who was in Heaven (two distinctly separate spheres of location) at the time when Jesus, on Earth, spoke those words.
I, like Steve, have come to the conclusion that if you need a "theologian's" perspective or interpretation of Scripture then something must be wrong, for we should be able to understand the SIMPLICITY which is in Christ Jesus, without a REMARKABLE interpretation of what is ACTUALLY WRITTEN.
1John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
@@paulnavarro3822 Well I can see you are sold out to what you believe, so I dont have much to say. You did not respond to a single comment i made but went about to prove you are right. I did not Anticipate your demeanor.
If you read my book you will get a better picture of the truth I believe. No need to rebut your reply if you don;t first address my reply above.
@@dsheppard8492 - I did REPLY to your comment which was that, "Jesus is in fact God". However, you did not "in fact" show that Jesus is God, you just asserted your Personal Beliefs. Your "beliefs" are not sufficient to show that "Jesus is God". I directly commented on how it CANNOT be possible for Jesus to be God, which is a Simple Matter, because the Scriptures have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to say about a so called "One-ness" God. If it did, all you would have to do (instead of writing a complete book) would be to cite in Bible Scripture, Book/s, Chapter/s, and Verse/s as to WHERE the "One-ness" TEACHING is either EXPOUNDED or ESPOUSED or PROCLAIMED or TAUGHT by any single writer of Scripture. YOU CANNOT DO such a thing, SIMPLY because it ain't there brother!
Just like the "Darby/Scofield" and "LaHaye/Jenkins" pre-trib rapture theory, your NOTION or IDEA of a so called "One-ness" God is NOT IN SCRIPTURE. You ASSUME it is so you have projected your "One-ness" idea INTO he Scriptures. My position IS in Scripture itself and I do not have to make an appeal to my personal "feelings". There is and has always been ONLY ONE (Singular) TRUE God, Yahweh the Father, as also says the Human Son of God, the Man Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ. I do not need to write a book to EXPLAIN it. A child can understand that teaching which IS Biblical teaching. So if I hurt your "feelings" I'm sorry, it was not my intention.
I’m so confused
To think John was writing to us 2000 plus years later is pure arrogance on our part. He had no reason to assume so. No angel or the Lord himself told him so.
We have been decieved by many.
Revelation 12 contains 2 verses about a 3.5 year (moon calendar) Tribulation..... And who is the woman who gave birth to the man child??? I think it links to Genesis 3:15 about the SEED WAR.....
Rev. 12:6 KJV
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Rev. 12:13 KJV
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev. 12:14 KJV
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
I do believe biblically it is told us that the great tribulation is at the end towards the time of the resurrection & Jesus' coming per Mt 24 with Dan 12
Matthew 24:21, 29-30 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Daniel 12:1-2 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Acts 1 records a "word" about the restoration of the nation of Israel. The Old Testament certainly does. Spiritualization and degradation of the OT is a horrific result of Covenant Theology.
The apostles spiritualized old testament passages all the time.
@@PreachingJesus You mean like in the gospels where they routinely applied literally the prophecies from the OT?
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
@@SpotterVideo wish I could copy & paste in my notes to study it out! Thanks for sharing!
@@matthew1177 You are free to copy and paste and share anything that comes from me.
Do you throw away chapters 11-13? We have two separate 3 1/2 periods of time, denoted by 1260 days for one half, and 42 months for the second half. How is this not applied in this teaching??
Scholars unanimously agree chapters 12 n 13 act as an intermission, a dividing line in Jesus last will and testament. Search; NEW revelation chapters 12 and 13 revealed in the stars by kingdomwithinus. These chapters 'reveal' the gospel of Jesus is literally written into the fabric of the universe. Emotional. Many ancient dates have been verified to fine detail by Christian Astronomers using the planetarium program Stellarium like Jesus birth, September 11 3BC.
@@GraniteChief369 that’s an amazing anecdote that has nothing to do with what is written.
There never were verses or chapters in the papyri.
Revelation 11 places the 1260 days and 42 months as occurring separately. The events depicted in each period of time are unique, exactly as the events are in Rev 12 and 13.
During the 1260 days there is protection from God, however during the 42 months, there is persecution of the saints, which is harmonious with the prophet Daniels prophecy, verbatim.
The 42 months are the second half of Daniels 70th week, and we know this because Daniel tells us the Beast goes into perdition and the saints inherit the kingdom.
@@CryoftheProphet nonsence. There is nothing in the Bible allowing anyone to cut out the 70th week of Daniel. Besides, it is fulfilled already, starting with the baptism of Jesus, crusified in the middle of the week, and ended with the stoning of Stephen. Then Peter got the vision of the unclean animals, and call to Cornelius' house (gentile) and Paul was called on the way to Damascus, to preach the gospel for the gentiles. Until week 70 ended, the gospel was for the jews.
Week 70 of Daniel has nothing to do in our time. It is a distraction that corrupts any interpretation of prophesy - it even denies Christ and makes him the future Antichrist.
@@theodorjoensen when was Amos 9:14-15 fulfilled
@@CryoftheProphet I do not see why I should engage in a change of subject.
If checking references and quotes in Acts and John, they seem to connect it to the Messiah.
However, it does not change anything I commented about Daniel above.
Revelation was written AFTER 70 C.E. approximately 96 C.E. So in Matthew 24 Jesus was predicting the destruction of Jerusalem and His coming at the end of the world, which was to occur much later probably in our time.
There’s virtually no evidence Revelation was written after AD70
@@LukeSmith7777 What would be evidence that Revelation was written after AD70? Explain please.
I don't understand what this CE is about. I only use BC, AD.
CE is just a cowards way of using AD without using it.
Jesus never talks about the end of the world anywhere in the bible. Jesus only talks about the end of the age. Study and find out for yourself what the end of the age is.
If written after 70 AD - 70 CE is secular - isn't the elephant in the room that the biggest event to the Jewish people at that time would be the destruction of the temple & it is mentioned nowhere in scripture if written at that later date?
Daniel 11:21. The king that wins the kingdom il by flatteries . Verse 22(( the prince of the covenant)) that does League)!! Is the guy in Daniel 9:27.. the devil's got your mind!
The last day
The last trump
The last enemy. 1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
After the millennium
Rev 21. Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be **no more death,** neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Yes. After Christ returns we go on to the new heavens and the new earth.
"The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him. But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies. What do ye imagine against the Lord? he will make an utter end: AFFLICTION SHALL NOT RISE UP THE SECOND TIME." Nahum 1 : 7-9
If death is the last enemy, then how is there another battle against the enemy a 1000 years after Christ returns? Once Jesus returns, then there is the Judgment and after that we go on to the eternal state (Matthew 25).
@@victorbennett5414
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death
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Eternity starts after death is destroyed at the second resurrection
@@carlcizek2189 Right, that occurs at Christ's second coming...
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The millennium reign in Jerusalem starts at messiah coming. The first resurrection in Rev 20 is to enter the millennium. The second resurrection in rev 21 is after the mill after the death of death..
I don't believe there will be any addition to the body of Christ after the resurrection. Saying there will be saints born after that doesn't even make sense. The body of Christ is called the elect in the New testament. Any Jews that become part of the body of Christ will have to be grafted in just like non Jews.
The day of the LORD will spring like a trap on the whole world.
Get into the word with the Holy Spirit
and watch and pray. The day of the LORD won't surprise You if you do this.
Sounds made up to me, nothing personal.
Hal NEVER said jesus was to return in 1988
while he had no exact date he did push the idea rather fervently that Jesus could/would return within one 40 year generation of 1948
It was Edgar C Wisenant
Isn't the end times tribulation always getting worse then the beginning of end times( Jesus' death) because the world gets more depraved ?
Looking around today it sure seems that way!!
1 Corinthians 15. 50-52 does not mention a "rapture"
The word comes from Latin and is present there in the Latin translation. It’s talking about the saints being caught up.
Haven't you heard of Armageddon. Revelation 16:16 that's the Great Tribulation that the END TIME will witness. The Great Tribulation that befell the first century Christians will not happen again, Matthew 24:21,it was all fulfilled apon that Generation.
Steve says the rapture isn't mentioned in connection with the tribulation. I would challenge that. Let us observe Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth. Now he wil argue that this is directed to a church at that time, and he's correct, as all seven letters are to discrete churches at the locations stated at that time. But then it also has future world wide application with a trial that is coming upon the whole world. And it is tied to verse 11 where Jesus said He is coming soon. See also Acts 1:11, Joh 14:3, 1 Thes 1:10 So I conclude that not only is the rapture mentioned in conjunction with the tribulation, but it occurs before it happens. How soon it occurs before the tribulation is not stated, but God will remove present believers in Jesus from that trial.
You just added a rapture that is nowhere mentioned. Have you thaught about that the keeping from the hour of trial could be because the Beast power will kill all that refuse the mark? There is even some blessing in revelation to those who die from a specific point, because they will rest and their works follow them (to the resurrection). The Bible also mentions somewhere else, about that the righteous die to spare them from temptations I think it mentions. I do not remember exactly where this is mentioned, but since our hope is not in this world, but in the resurrection, there is no more perfect place to rest protected than in the grave sleeping, until the Lord calls us in the resurection.
@@theodorjoensenAmos 5:18Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
19As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
20Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
You have studied a great deal and you have had SO much revealed to you, however you ask:
"Why should I believe these last seven years, the seventieth week are in in the end?"
Let's go back to Matthew 24 and the original question of the disciples: they ask Him, "Tell us when will be the time of the coming and of the end of the world?". As you mention He iterates many signs. Then he says," When ye shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, then:.." He gives more events, but He also warns, "THEN shall be [unprecedented] great tribulation..."
As you said, Daniel gives us a timeline and clues, but we need to back up to the 70th week: "he shall CONFIRM THE COVENANT for ONE WEEK, and in the MIDST OF THE WEEK, he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease, and he shall place the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION."
There it IS. Seven year covenant, stops in the middle when the tribulation begins for the last 3 1/2 of them.
"So that he, as God, sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he IS God."
Jesus says to read Daniel, and to understand it.
Then Daniel says "blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred and thirty days."
In Daniel 11 he even talks about "exploits" God's people will be doing at the time; some will even be on the attack (and the a - hack against his cyber world mark system. Christians will not ALL be cowering.
Of COURSE it must be at the end, both Jesus and Daniel say "the time of the end", "the last days" and "the time if thy coming."
You CAN'T understand Matthew 24 without under standing Daniel 9:27 (and periphery) and 11:31 because Jesus, Himself directed us to them, didn't He?
One has to interpret Daniel correctly first. The “He” who confirms a covenant is the Messiah. His ministry began in the 70th week (and after the 69th week…) roughly 3.5 yrs later He was crucified. (Cut off but not for himself. For us!) By his death, He caused sacrifices to cease.
The last 3.5 yrs the gospel stayed with the Jews, until the stoning of Stephen. Then the gospel was taken to the gentiles.
The most pivotal prophecy in history- when Messiah arrived on the scene, was baptized, anointed as the most Holy and it has been hijacked by those who believe the AC is who is referenced in Daniel.
It’s absolutely tragic.
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Where are you going to put the great tribulation? Max? The last trump, the end of sins, everlasting righteous all are prefaced by Daniel's "weeks" and Jesus' word to his disciples.
I LIKE this preacher very much, but I DON'T think his assessment of the seventy weeks is correct.
King James writers put a "colon" a separation between that of the other 69 weeks and the seventieth. What are we going to do with the tribulation Jesus told us about if we try to put the last 3 1/2 years as "during His ministry"?
Why, in the world, would "the prince that would come" and "confirm the covenant" be Jesus? It's CLEARLY a bad guy, in Matthew 24, in Daniel 9, in Daniel 11, in Thessalonians, and in Revelations. What covenant did Jesus confirm? Jesus threw the money changers out; He did NOT cause the oblation to cease or take away the daily sacrifice: that continued another 40 years AFTER His death. There are those who would like to start it up, again, now, in our time.
II Timothy 2:15
@@reyhudson563 Did you even read the Bible? I will show you were Jesus confirmed a covenant with the many. To be fair, you need to show us that anyone else besides Jesus, confirms a covenant with the many. Your antichrist is a fable.
(Daniel 9:27) then He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week, he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. The end of 3 ½ year ministry Christ was killed and the curtain rent. The sacrificial Lamb ended the sacrificial system of the old covenant by His death, emphatically confirmed here in Hebrews. Isaiah 53:11,Romans 5:15 tells it all.
(Hebrews 9:12,24-28) "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation."
Jesus was confirming the covenant with Israel. That’s why He came, Confirming the promise that was made to Abraham many years before. Israel’s remnant and grafted gentiles were eagerly waiting for Christ to come, like He said He would, in their generation, for salvation.
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Hello,
I can understand how someone could think the "prince that will come" might be Jesus, but not from a complete reading of the 9th Chapter of Daniel, COUPLED with the Eleventh Chapter . There's just TOO MUCH, there in the 11th Chapter of Daniel, all leading up to the "abomination of desolation"
(11:31) There are troop movements, his planned prognostication of war. Jesus did NOT plan war before he was "cut off" Matthew 24:15, 21, and 29 -31; Daniel 9 (especially verse 27) and Daniel Chapter 11 (especially verse 31) ALL go together. Jesus puts the great tribulation, not at His death, but at the "midst of the week", when the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination placed.
Jesus places the Great Tribulation at the end, just as does Daniel, Revelation and Paul in Thessalonians.
The antichrist isn't a "fable"; John tells us about him.
'You have heard that antichrist will come..." 1st John
It is easy, in Bible prophecy, to say "this means this and that means that". I've been seeing and hearing people do it for over 50 years. Some folks are sure they can hang a horn on every beast.
I can not go into detail, here, as to just how many different people - right here on RUclips have been SO SURE that they knew who the anti christ was or would be. Funny enough, most of those people (including the Pope, Obama, Bush and even poor Juan Carlos and a slew of others have since gone to their reward.
Your interpretation is that Jesus was the "daily sacrifice". Well, I can't actually refute that. He WAS the ultimate sacrifice; that is SURE... but a "daily sacrifice" well, that seems a little far fetched to me. Could He have been sacrificed over and over, on a daily basis? That just seems like a shoe that's a little hard for anybody I ever heard about to fit... even the Lord.
There IS, however, another line of reasoning which tells us that there will be a temple in Jerusalem and that "he" (with a little H) "...shall sit in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God..." When Paul wrote this (after Jesus' crucification) he did not yet know that Herod's temple would be destroyed, 'cause it hadn't happened yet. Paul died before 70 AD. There are those (including MANY modern Jews in Israel) who are waiting for, hoping for and even taking steps for construction of a third temple in Jerusalem. I have read that the stones already being kept in a warehouse and that the "red heifer" necessary to begin the whole process of temple building has already been produced in Texas. For many years there was a big problem because, for hundreds of years, a mosque sat on the rectangular piece of land that many modern Jews believe to be the "temple mount".
I DO NOT KNOW! (Neither does anybody else.) Will a third temple be built in Jerusalem? I would say, "your guess is as good as mine", but MY guess is that it probably WILL be. What better time to do it than now, when there has been so much chaos in Gaza and the West Bank. The military might being exercised, as we speak, might give those pron to build temples the little push they need. (I DON'T KNOW!) But BOTH of us might find out, pretty soon. If there IS a temple, there will also be a sacrifice (weird as it seems) that's just how it works. There are at LEAST hundreds of thousands of religious Jews, currently, hankering for the construction of this temple.
If a temple IS built, plenty of people will need to revamp their "interpretations" about their pet Bible prophecies... just as people have had to do for the last 2,000 years and running.
Will there be a temple? I think there will.
Will it be in Jerusalem? I think so.
Will there be a daily sacrifice? Daniel tells us so (twice).
Will the ending of that daily sacrifice and the placing of the abomination of desolation begin the "great tribulation"? Not only do Jesus, Daniel, Paul and Revelation 13 tell us so, but it has been well established by MANY Bible scholars and prophets for a long time, BUT...
ALL of us are going to have to wait and see, aren't we?
"When you see Jerusalem compassed about by armies..." Well, granted, there have been armies there, on occasion: Babylonian, Greek, Hittites, Egyptian, Roman, Arab, Ottoman, British, yes, but I expect such a large horde that it will put all these in a smaller category.
But that's just what I think; I got no way to know for SURE except Bible prophecy and my gut, until it happens. Maybe I won't even be around any more. But it WILL be what it IS! So why don't we all come down off our high horse of know - it - all Bible all figured it out ism and rest at Jesus' feet and say with John, "Even so, come, Lord Jesus."?
If the rapture takes place before the tribulations and the righteous are taken away by Jesus and the wicked are stained by the brightness of His presence.. then who will face the tribulation..
Your message is highly confusing and misleading.. please ask God for wisdom to understand this important doctrine
Everyone who enters heaven will go through tribulation first. For it is through much tribulation that we MUST enter the Kingdom of God. It is a Kingdom of righteousness. We shall live in righteousness through Jesus.
There is no 7 year tribulation....people have twisted Daniel 9:27 big time...that entire chapter is about the Jews, Jerusalem, and Jesus nowhere does it talk about an antichrist or a 7 year tribulation...Jesus confirmed THE covenant with many He confirmed it, His death caused the sacrifices and oblation to cease He is the last and final sacrifice no more after Him. Every burnt offering in the OT was a picture of Jesus Christ...
When I google the number of emperors during the first century, Nero is 5th in line. Not 6th. Not sure how Steve Gregg reconciles that difference:
1- Augustus 27BC-14 AD
2-Tiberius 14AD -37 AD
3-Caligula 37AD-41AD
4-Claudius 41AD -54AD
5-Nero 54AD -68AD
6-Galba 68AD -69 AD
7-Otho Jan thru April 69AD
8-Aulu Vitellius July/Dec 69
9- Vespasian 69-79AD temple Destruction period.
Why does Nero need to be 6th?
I was referring to what Steve Gregg stated in Nero being the 6th emperor…5 have fallen and one is …
He counts Julius Caesar as being the first; not Augustus.
Try googling who was the first Roman emperor.
Julius Caesar was the first emperor of Rome. Count again.
Didn’t God kick people out of their own country and give it to israel in the Old Testament? Why wouldn’t He maybe do that again in the modern age?
So Israel is not God’s country? Jerusalem is not God’s city?
Gregg, I have studied all the views and have decided that Pre tribulational rapture. I am sorry that you believe that people who believe in this view of eschatology only believe because they were told to believe this. So you are saying that we believe in heresy. There is proof that some of the founding church fathers who believe in a pre tribulation.
Matthew 24 verse 15 ACTUALLY SAYS THIS - hint! hint! "(whoever reads, let him understand)"! So let's do that very thing.
Sorry Steve, but in Mt. 24, it is IRRESPONSIBLE to answer the "verse 3 questions" of the disciples by first JUMPING OVER the thirty lines of text
that actually RECORD His answer to them, and thus concluding "this generation" as being the present one. Neither can you use such faulty logic
in unpacking what Moses tells Israel in Deuteronomy chapters 28 through 30 when he prophesies the coming 3,500 YEARS of lifetime of this people,
as they stand there, waiting to enter the Land. In Genesis 3.15, God tells Satan - IN THE GARDEN - what Jesus will do to him FAR into the future!
The ending of the 69 weeks of Daniel 9. Is the last day of the year 26. Which is March the 28. Pretty cold for a babtism!!!!. on the Jewish calendar.. Jesus died on the cross on a Wednesday April 25th. Preparation day.. Nissan 14!! John 19: 31 In the year 31 if you know what you're doing. (That's 4 years and 28 days)) there's no baptism!!. (That's not in the middle of any seven)!!! Looney tunes!
The Temple was not one of the seven wonders of the world. ALSO, and this is huge. This did not happen in the first century; Matthew 24 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from ONE END OF THE HEAVEN TO THE OTHER." If this happened in the first century and ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH saw this from ONE END OF THE HEAVEN TO THE OTHER, it would be the greatest event since the Flood, and yet there are no historical records of Jesus appearing in the sky sending His angels to the "four winds...one end of the heaven to the other." AGAIN, if it happened in the first century, every single nation on planet earth (ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH) should have historical accounts of this great event. So, while some of Matthew 24 may have happened in the first century, NOT all things did happen.
Hi Mike. I can see you are coming around a little bit. Now you are saying that some of Matthew 24 has happened. Would you mind letting me know what has not been fulfilled in Matthew 24?
This is an exert from Josephus 'Wars of the Jews' who was a first hand eyewitness and JEW of the destruction and rebellion.
Thus were the miserable people persuaded by these deceivers, and such as belied God himself; while they did not attend nor give credit to the signs that were so evident, and did so plainly foretell their future desolation, but, like men infatuated, without either eyes to see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made to them. Thus there was a star 1 resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year. Thus also before the Jews' rebellion, and before those commotions which preceded the war, when the people were come in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus, 2 [Nisan,] and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time; which lasted for half an hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskillful, but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes, as to portend those events that followed immediately upon it. At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed, brought forth a lamb in the midst of the temple. Moreover, the eastern gate of the inner 3 [court of the] temple, which was of brass, and vastly heavy, and had been with difficulty shut by twenty men, and rested upon a basis armed with iron, and had bolts fastened very deep into the firm floor, which was there made of one entire stone, was seen to be opened of its own accord about the sixth hour of the night. Now those that kept watch in the temple came hereupon running to the captain of the temple, and told him of it; who then came up thither, and not without great difficulty was able to shut the gate again. This also appeared to the vulgar to be a very happy prodigy, as if God did thereby open them the gate of happiness. But the men of learning understood it, that the security of their holy house was dissolved of its own accord, and that the gate was opened for the advantage of their enemies. So these publicly declared that the signal foreshowed the desolation that was coming upon them. Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence." But, what is still more terrible, there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian and a husbandman, who, four years before the war began, and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity, came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple, began on a sudden to cry aloud, "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against this whole people!" This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city. However, certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his, and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes; yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him, but still went on with the same words which he cried before. Hereupon our rulers, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man, brought him to the Roman procurator, where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare; yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears, but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" And when Albinus (for he was then our procurator) asked him, Who he was? and whence he came? and why he uttered such words? he made no manner of reply to what he said, but still did not leave off his melancholy ditty, till Albinus took him to be a madman, and dismissed him. Now, during all the time that passed before the war began, this man did not go near any of the citizens, nor was seen by them while he said so; but he every day uttered these lamentable words, as if it were his premeditated vow, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" Nor did he give ill words to any of those that beat him every day, nor good words to those that gave him food; but this was his reply to all men, and indeed no other than a melancholy presage of what was to come. This cry of his was the loudest at the festivals; and he continued this ditty for seven years and five months, without growing hoarse, or being tired therewith, until the very time that he saw his presage in earnest fulfilled in our siege, when it ceased; for as he was going round upon the wall, he cried out with his utmost force, "Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the holy house!" And just as he added at the last, "Woe, woe to myself also!" there came a stone out of one of the engines, and smote him, and killed him immediately; and as he was uttering the very same presages he gave up the ghost.
@@RisenShine-zy7dn Thanks for this. I have seen excerpts of this before, but not the last part. When Jesus chastised the Pharisees in (Matthew 23:33) “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell (Gehenna), I explain to folks that this word hell is a made up word. The prophets, apostles, and Jesus never taught hell, a place of eternal judgment. I explain that this hell is an actual place. The Hebrew Gehenna which was the valley of the son of Hinnom, the valley of slaughter, where Josephus records that 1.1 million Jews were slaughtered in 70 AD, and a great multitude were cast down over the southeast wall of Jerusalem, into the valley of Hinnom below. Thousands were dragged through the gates and put there, and burned by the Roman legends.
When Jesus spoke of “Gehenna,” a desecrated valley, forsaken by God, outside the city. The pharisees knew what Gehenna was, and were insulted that Jesus would dare to condemned them to Gehenna. These apostate Israel supreme council Sanhedrin, that Jesus was addressing that were still alive in 70 AD, ended up in Gehenna, like Christ said they would.
@@james-cq3mi You are correct about the valley of Hinnom in the earthly place outside of Jerusalem. But that place no longer exists and ceased from being after the destruction.
However, as the earthly is a representation of the true spiritual, we need to keep in mind that the earthly 'Gehenna' was a reflection of the true and spiritual 'Gehenna' = lake of fire that burns eternally. Where the beast and the false prophet are already.
Where Satan will be thrown into for all eternity.
Those spiritual entities were not thrown into a physical place on earth in 70 AD but into the spiritual place and rhelm in 70 AD except for Satan who will go there when Christ comes and destroys this world by fire. 2 Peter 3
Revelation 20:10-15. This is also the place where those not written in the lamb's book of life go to their 2nd death.
The 1st death is the death of the body, the 2nd death is the death of both soul & body together.
Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them who can kill the body but rather fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna."
1 Corinthians 3:13-15
verse 13 "For everyone's work shall be manifest for the day shall declare it for it shall be revealed by fire and the fire shall try everyone's work of what sort it is."
This is 2 Peter 3 playing out but the saints will be resurrected at the same time.
1 Thessalonians 4 for all believers alive & living and asleep in death/body.
For their souls to connect to an eternal existence and resurrected body, just like Christ. But Christ's body never saw decay.
Psalm 16:10
Acts 2:27
Then a new heaven and new earth Revelation 21:1-8. This is not allegorical or metaphorical but a real place NH & NE.
Hebrews 2:5 "For unto the angels He has not put into subjection the inhabited earth to come whereof we speak."
G 3625 = inhabited earth
The bible teaches us that now in this inhabited earth/world the angels are ministering spirits for us/ the saints.
Hebrews 1:14 " Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister unto them who shall be the heirs of salvation?"
Just in these 2 verses Paul teaches us the earth now and the one new one coming.
The 1st resurrection in Revelation 20:4 is the resurrection of the soul after death.
"And I saw the souls of them who were beheaded..."
The soul's of those who die are either a sheep or a goat- either heaven or Hades [hell/ outer darkness & weeping n gnashing of teeth & torments] and await their abode until the great white thrown judgment after the resurrection of the living and the dead. The just and the unjust on the last day. John 6:39-44
Matthew 25:31-46 Jesus has been separating the sheep & the goats as people live & die for 2000 years now. With His 2 edged sword/ righteousness & judgment.
1 Corinthians 15
Hades is Strong's G 86 - mentioned 11 times in the original Greek
Gehenna is G 1067 - mentioned 12 times
Look them up, just google [ strong's G 86 ] I like the blue letter bible for this as it gives all the verses and more context.
The trouble with full preterism is that it is totally outside orthodox historical biblical teachings. and has a perpetuity of life, death and suffering but that's not what the bible teaches.
It teaches opposite to the 'Blessed hope' for all creation.
It teaches opposite to a paradise and new earth wherein dwells righteousness and no more sin at all for all of eternity. Where God will once again walk in the garden with His saints on a new earth. No more sin , suffering or death or Satan or demons to deal with for ever & ever & ever.
That is the BLESSED HOPE!
That is what the bible and Christendom has been teaching for 2000 years.
Blessings in the name of Christ Jesus.
So now your blaspheming Jesus Christ and saying the (he in Daniel 9:27 which is the Antichrist incarnated by the devil!!( is Jesus Christ) wow... now I know what your issue is. You got to remember ..Titus was between Jesus Christ.and the He in Daniel 9:27... That puts you at 70 AD!!!! ..then ..he.. finally speaks of the 70 th week!!