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2024 KTM XCW's - First Ride - Cycle News
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2023
- We get our hands on all the new 2024 KTM enduro bikes, the 150 XC-W, the 250 XC-W, the 300 XC-W, and the 450 XCF-W.
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Best review out there. Everything was explained well and simple!!
Thank you for the support!
The "inconsistent feel" and the bottoming out from the xplor fork was due to wp cheaping out and not putting a mid-valve in. Worst fork every designed. Moving to a cc fork stock was a face saving move, and very welcome one, at that. The other upgrades are very nice, but f you've never experienced a cc fork for enduro, this is the #1 reason to get this bike, hands down.
Finally the XC-W comes with a bright LED headlight from the factory.
Yes! They say 300% brighter than the previous.
Personally like a spring fork for long ride consistency, safety, and adjustability. the 24' is woods ready right out of the box
As they say "Ready To Race" 👍
Could you compare the 150 tbi too a 200 xcw of old?
Wait a minute, no premix so that means they have an oil pump? Let's hope they aren't going to be troublesome
Oil pump isn't a new thing, already been used by ktm and beta for years with good reliability.
@@hurelllucieer6225 I was just thinking of the small percentage of people who have bad luck with thier oil pumps ,it happens
Very similar to what the TPI bike was. Oil tank in front of the gas cap.
Oil injection system has been around for years
Oil pump injection is very old technology. Been on boats for decades. And have proven to be nearly bulletproof. The only rule is the oil must be clean.
There are 250 and 350 four stroke enduoro models for 2024 :)
Thanks...tru that ditto very good talk as my Polish friend likes to say...good talk....good presentation
I living on 5 acres an i want to put a small mx track on the front 3 acres an im watch because notoriously the enduro bikes are much quieter i really have no noise ordinance but i want my neighbors to be happy an a race four stroke or yami yz 250. 2 smoke mite be too loud unless i can build a custom carbon fiber silence that cuts the noise down by a ton...i enjoy the motor sound im not ready for an electric bike yet...that would be the solution but i want the noise still.....
With dirt bikes you can't generally build a quit muffler. The quite the muffler the more the heat load on the engine. And the jetting will have to be changed or tuned if not within the window of fuel injection. A new stock bike will all be about the same noise level. New 2 storkes don't really smoke either. It's clear your new to riding. I suggest heading to a local mx track and get to know some people. Help you decide the best bike for you. As a starter bike depending on your size.look at the ttr 125 or the ttr 230. Maybe Dr 200. You will need some saddle time before you fly. If you just build a ramp and nail it without knowing what your doing, you will brake your neck.
Did KTM change the cylinder and piston brands for 2024? If so, what manufacturer did they switch to?
The videos of shattered pistons in 2023 bikes concerns me, hoping that's been remedied.
I'm pretty sure KTM is actually doing a 350XW-F model for 2024?? Same for Husky. can't decide between that or a 250
Yes a 350 and 500.
Did you notice any vibration from the 450w?
Not much, the whole bike is very smooth.
If you were doing enduro/hard enduro - which one would you bring?
Likely the 300 XCW
What's this fella's name ? I notice Kurt from Trail Rider rated the 450 as a fav (or is this Kurt ??). Some of the other testers have rated the 150 or 250 as their fav as well. 300 seems to have a little less general appeal in this version.
That's our Off-Road Editor, Ryan Nitzen.
I have the xc tbi 250 version. 1.5 hrs, has always had a nasty bog @ part throttle off idle and or getting on the throttle at lower to mid rpm. If you're standing and counting on the power for balance, it becomes annoying real quick. My tbi 250 feels loaded up at slower speeds. 60:1 oem oil and plug.
My te150i was much more luggable and didn't have any bogging or flat spots.
Usually when you have weird feeling injection bike it’s either the ccp sensor or ambient air pressure sensor.. try switching them to see if it changes and then replace them. I’ve had some work for 80+ hours and some 5 hours
have you had a remap/tune ? I rode three 300 tpi's back to back and one behaved like you said and the other 2 didn't even though they all had the same mods. The ktm engineer says one of the big things with the new model's engine is better consistency.
@@Superdisco199 I was told it has it. The update was released the day I purchased the bike (thats how disappointing riding this bike has been, 6 months and only 1.5 hours of use). My dealer is not the best, wouldn't be suprised if they lied to me and it has the original programing.
@@magnusthoroffroad I had this problem with my new 22 te150i, still have 3 new oem pressure sensors. Ill look into swapping the sensors.
Hi guys great review im 6foot 3 bout 315 will a 450 be a good bike and haul me around ok i currently have 2004 525sx getting into desert racing and things
Think so! The new 450's have plenty of power for the bigger riders.
@@cyclenews ok sounds good thanks fpr the advice sounds like a step in the rivht direction
So they did away with the shock tower along with the air suspension. They've went back to their 2016 model!!
How many tanks of fuel to one tank of oil?
What is your height and weight if you don’t mind me asking? I am new to dirt bikes and was interested in the 150 but the salesman said I’m too big for it. He was steering me toward the 250. I’m just looking to enjoy the woods with my buddies and was worried about buying too much bike as I am pretty inexperienced. My only experience is riding pit bikes around back yard homemade tracks. Thanks in advance.
Six foot one, 180 lbs with gear on. The 150 is a bit underpowered but if you are a new rider it might suit you. Size was not an issue in terms of height, weight, etc.
@@cyclenews okay. I think the salesman was more concerned with its power and my weight. I am 6’ 220lbs. I was initially looking at the Honda CRF250RX which has 37hp and then I saw the 150 which also has 37hp and have just heard that 2 strokes are a better tool for slower, more technical woods type riding. Again, I have no idea. I’m new to all of this.
@@cyclenews Do you think me weighing 220 is too much for the 150 even with me being a novice? Would the 250 be too powerful for me? Thanks in advance!
I’m 5’9, 185# + gear, over 50A rider. I LOVED my 2019 150xcw. Climbed hills at 3k’ elevation w/sea level jetting, & raced national enduros and local xc races with it. Only sold it b/c I couldn’t afford 2 bikes and wanted more roll on torque out of slow grass track corners, otherwise it was really good for me. You being 40# heavier might be worth getting a 250xcw, but the 150 should still pull you around okay if you wanted to upgrade later. I rode mine from low to upper mid-range in the power and it hauled me just fine.
@@that427dude My personal opinion is that the 250/300 two strokes are the bikes to get whether you are inexperienced or ride at a top level. The power is easy to manage for a beginner, but there if you need it. I ride A level, 195 w gear. Current bike: new gen 2023 Husqvarna tx 300. I have had tpi’s and about every four stroke model as well. Having said all that, I love getting on my wife’s old gen 21 Husky te 150 as well. I think you would really like the 300 though. You will probably be happy with any ktm/husky you get, but even happier with a two stroke😂
I get that the OEMS job is to sell the new models, but bashing the TPI bikes and saying they feel like a carb bike is craziness!
Yeah that’s an uninformed opinion at best. This guy has no clue if he thought the TPI felt like a carb, and a TBI now doesn’t.
The tpi feels like it's all low to mid range. Very strong, but doesn't feel clean on top. Way more responsive than a carbed 300, especially down low.
Get with the times mate, carbs are a thing of the pass.
I’ll take a carb bike any day.
@@TheKitchenTechnician are you a pro? Riding a carb or tpi is not going to help you get up a hill you can’t already on the tpi buddy.
Can you mix the fuel in this and just unplug the oil pump?
Don't think so. The ECU is programmed to work with the oil tank. We asked if you could swap the ECU of an XCW with an XC and KTM advised us against that idea.
Why would you want to do that hahahahahahaha
@@thetimetraveler1427
More reliable
I am still not sure what makes more sense for trail riding: XC or XCW.
XCW is the more specific trail bike. The XC is closely related to the SX and is more race oriented.
I know. It would be helpful to test drive the bikes. But it is not possible. 😢
WHY the factory team bike don't use the premix?
Dear KTM: plz ditch the PURPLE! ... I know someone will say that is retro and Idc.. it's fugly!
Love it i was planning on do a white and purple graphic kit🤩🤩🤩
The XC is a 6 speed
Fan boys foaming at the mouth finally getting the 6500 kit stock while showa and kyb have been doing it for almost 20 years.
Why are dirt bikes not durable... I have CX SE 250...
Whyyyyy?
Stop reviewing off-road enduro bikes on a MX track ride. You dont see reviews of full MX bikes on hard enduro. Review the bike where 90% of the riders will be riding it.
Just laziness