Great review Sean! Thanks for taking us along for the ride. What are your thoughts on the 300 xcw TBI vs the previous TPI set up? Any preference on one over the other?
New to your channel. Howdy. Great video. (C-rider here) I’ve only been riding since 2019 then bought a 2021 after bikes took over my life. I would like to ask…is this bike the most anticipated release or what? Seems everyone is talking about it….Including myself. I’ve been waiting on my TE300 for about 2 months. One just rolled in. Within 10 minutes someone put a deposit down. I got notified around the 20 minute mark. There was confusion blah blah. But a twist…they won’t be able to release to new owner due to an embargo so it’s staying at the dealer till August🤷🏻♂️ no battery in it. Said they aren’t allowed to turn them on🤷🏻♂️. Shit. Now I have to rebuild mine to finish the season.
Nice post. Waiting for my 23 350xcf FE. So this new update is only for the W models correct. As the xcw in 23 was not updated to the new frame and chassis? Nothing new on a 24 xcf?
I don’t see why they would any more than any of their previous models. I have had a tpi for 100 hours and it is flawless. TBI is even better and not as lean.
I wouldn't describe it that way. It is smoother at most people's riding pace with may translate into feeling "nimble". The 250 is a great bike. If you aren't competing or doing really wild stuff on the trails, the 250 is a perfect bike.
Good for a 150. TBI and maps helps a lot with power distribution. Not enough power for my style of riding and racing but a great bike for someone who likes something more mellow or a light rider.
As a 225lb beginner rider, I’ve ridden the 300xc and it felt like way too much bike for me to handle. I’m looking at buying the 150 xc-w, but I keep getting told I’m too big for the 150. Would a 250xc-w be better for me? Or should I be okay on the 150. I want something that I can get into the powerband without feeling like it’s trying to kill me. I like to ride single track and rough enduro kind of riding.
Try to 300 XCW first. The XC model is tuned for racing so it is a way different ride than an XCW. The XCW (even the 300) is much smoother and will not put you in a wheelie when you give it gas. You may also want to consider a 500 EXC-F (four stroke) as it is also extremely smooth. I agree with other that the 150 is not your bike. Don't focus too much on the CC, the biggest issue is how they are tuned. A motocross 125 would be more dangerous for you than a 500 EXC or 300 XCW model ranges.
@@BigIronMoto quick update, Ive gotten way more comfortable on that 2020 300xc and have grown to love it after riding it everyday for a month, now my question is how much snappier is the ‘24 250xcw compared to the 300xcw. I’ve heard some things about the 300 “feeling slower” in the top end, where as the 250 requires you to be on the pipe a little more. I’m starting to lean towards the 250 if I’m being honest. It has reasonable bottom end, and pretty strong top end which is what I like.
@@joshmullins9634 The XC is far more peppy and race oriented. The XCW is mellow, low power, excellent for trail riding and harder terrain. It depends a lot on your riding style. If you want to race, then go XC, if you want to trail ride, then go XCW. Either way, I would go 300 as the new TBI 300 has very smooth. linear power so it is there if you need it, but does not feel twitchy (like the XC). Hope that helps.
Happy to answer anything I remember about it. I did ride the 450 and found it really nice. Torque felt great and 4T power made it extremely smooth through the trails. My first choice would be a 300XCW but that is only because I like doing hard enduro and having the lightness of the 2T is my preference. HOWEVER, if I was buying a bike as a guide or general trail riding, I would probably get the 450. I really liked the 450.
They are a different line and were not profiled in in this debut. They are all XC line. I do own a 350 XCF Factory and it is incredible. That is the bike I use for XC racing. Insanely fast and capable.
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Would like to see an XC XCW comparison to see especially the differences in power.
Great review Sean! Thanks for taking us along for the ride. What are your thoughts on the 300 xcw TBI vs the previous TPI set up? Any preference on one over the other?
TBI is flawless. Love it. My TPI works really well too but the TBI is as good of response I have ever felt on a bike.
Great video and amazing opportunity. Great job yet again Sean. 95% new is crazy.
Well done with the video, very informative. Thanks for your efforts
Fantastic work with this video! Thanks for creating this and sharing with us. Looks to be Amazing bikes.
Thanks Brian!
@@BigIronMoto what's the retail price for 300 xc-w 2024 ?
New to your channel. Howdy. Great video. (C-rider here) I’ve only been riding since 2019 then bought a 2021 after bikes took over my life. I would like to ask…is this bike the most anticipated release or what? Seems everyone is talking about it….Including myself. I’ve been waiting on my TE300 for about 2 months. One just rolled in. Within 10 minutes someone put a deposit down. I got notified around the 20 minute mark. There was confusion blah blah. But a twist…they won’t be able to release to new owner due to an embargo so it’s staying at the dealer till August🤷🏻♂️ no battery in it. Said they aren’t allowed to turn them on🤷🏻♂️. Shit. Now I have to rebuild mine to finish the season.
Thanks for watching. Good luck with the new bike.
Excellent coverage!!! 👌🏻
Nice post. Waiting for my 23 350xcf FE. So this new update is only for the W models correct. As the xcw in 23 was not updated to the new frame and chassis? Nothing new on a 24 xcf?
XCF is all new for 24 as well. I tested an XCW-F 450 and it was also completely redesigned.
Sick vid, sick bikes. Can't wait to try one. Great job Sean 👏🏼
Great video Sean . 👏
Great video 👌🏼
Will these 2 strokes need constant rebuilds
I don’t see why they would any more than any of their previous models. I have had a tpi for 100 hours and it is flawless. TBI is even better and not as lean.
❤good stuff!
Awesome vid
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Love to try the 150. Probably the 250 2 stroke as well to compare to my ec 250.
From 2:50-13:08 👍🏽 for nerdy tech guys.
Does the 250 feel more nimble than the 300? Heard people pick 250 over 300 because of the handling.
I wouldn't describe it that way. It is smoother at most people's riding pace with may translate into feeling "nimble". The 250 is a great bike. If you aren't competing or doing really wild stuff on the trails, the 250 is a perfect bike.
Good vid. What’s the the stock spring rate for rider weight
Manuals are all online and it will show stock and recommended springs for weight. Stock ranges between 165-185 I believe.
DBC's Kyle Brotherson in the tech vest! @14:35
Yeah it is. Super cool to ride with him for the day. We had a blast!
what did you think of the new 150? have you ridden the TPI 150?
150 is great. TBI has excellent throttle response and two maps make it nice for mild and more committed riding.
How would you describe the differences between this stock fork and the 6500 kit?
Watch the interview in the video with Lee from WP. He explains this. In short, they feel just as good at my 6500 kit
Hows the power on the 150?
Good for a 150. TBI and maps helps a lot with power distribution. Not enough power for my style of riding and racing but a great bike for someone who likes something more mellow or a light rider.
As a 225lb beginner rider, I’ve ridden the 300xc and it felt like way too much bike for me to handle. I’m looking at buying the 150 xc-w, but I keep getting told I’m too big for the 150. Would a 250xc-w be better for me? Or should I be okay on the 150. I want something that I can get into the powerband without feeling like it’s trying to kill me. I like to ride single track and rough enduro kind of riding.
Try to 300 XCW first. The XC model is tuned for racing so it is a way different ride than an XCW. The XCW (even the 300) is much smoother and will not put you in a wheelie when you give it gas. You may also want to consider a 500 EXC-F (four stroke) as it is also extremely smooth. I agree with other that the 150 is not your bike. Don't focus too much on the CC, the biggest issue is how they are tuned. A motocross 125 would be more dangerous for you than a 500 EXC or 300 XCW model ranges.
@@BigIronMoto quick update, Ive gotten way more comfortable on that 2020 300xc and have grown to love it after riding it everyday for a month, now my question is how much snappier is the ‘24 250xcw compared to the 300xcw. I’ve heard some things about the 300 “feeling slower” in the top end, where as the 250 requires you to be on the pipe a little more. I’m starting to lean towards the 250 if I’m being honest. It has reasonable bottom end, and pretty strong top end which is what I like.
@@joshmullins9634 The XC is far more peppy and race oriented. The XCW is mellow, low power, excellent for trail riding and harder terrain. It depends a lot on your riding style. If you want to race, then go XC, if you want to trail ride, then go XCW. Either way, I would go 300 as the new TBI 300 has very smooth. linear power so it is there if you need it, but does not feel twitchy (like the XC). Hope that helps.
Excelente.
Magnífica.
Infelizmente no Brasil, a renda do trabalhador e impostos são exorbitantes, so publico muito rico pode comprar moto off road
I need me some new KTM 300 2 stroke in my life.
Was really looking for comments on the 450..
Happy to answer anything I remember about it. I did ride the 450 and found it really nice. Torque felt great and 4T power made it extremely smooth through the trails. My first choice would be a 300XCW but that is only because I like doing hard enduro and having the lightness of the 2T is my preference. HOWEVER, if I was buying a bike as a guide or general trail riding, I would probably get the 450. I really liked the 450.
12:15 so the XC/SX and XCW have different cylinders with same head? Hmmmm, too bad, thats more $$ to change/modify
Different port timing!11:44
More torque and low end is stated.
Why was the 250F 350F missing?
They are a different line and were not profiled in in this debut. They are all XC line. I do own a 350 XCF Factory and it is incredible. That is the bike I use for XC racing. Insanely fast and capable.
Might be nice to mention 13000 dollar price tag for 300. Very important to most riders
I don't know MSRP yet.