I've done a few projects with MAS. I'm not an expert on epoxy but I've done a number of projects with multiple brands. With MAS, I refinished a built in sink, a cheap desk, 2 art projects, 2 trivets, a TV tray and a handheld tray. My thoughts: It sets up WAY too quick for my liking so if you have any designs you're trying to do, it makes it very difficult. It also gets EXTREMELY hot if you try to use a helix mixer (unless you go really slow). This can be a pain if you're trying to mix a large batch. There is a bit of an odor. I didn't think it was too bad but my daughter said she smelled it through a mask. It self levels decently but it doesn't flow like other epoxies I've used. I sand and clean everything and still end up with surface tension at times. Conversely, It does cure pretty clear. I haven't had any issues with cloudiness. I also haven't had any issues so far with durability. It cures to the touch fairly quickly. I was able to add mica powder with no problem. Air bubbles are minimal and easy to pop with a heat gun or mini torch. I actually complained to them and they sent me a free bottle. They tried to get me to remove my review and even kind of blamed me in the reply email but I didn't comply lol. Overall, I'd say if you don't need something with a decent work time, it's decent if you want to save money. I got it because I didn't want to shell out the $ for Stone Coat, Leggari or Art Resin at the time. I've used Envirotex and gotten better results but on smaller projects. I hope this helps.
Hollis2Hollywood Thanks. I did read this when you posted but didn’t respond. Your experience is exactly what mine was using Total Boat. Very short work time and lots of surface tension unless I used a ratio of almost 6 oz per sq ft which offset the cost benefit. I’ve used them all now and there’s nothing like Leggari. Very fluid and very easy to use. No torching or heat gun required. No chopping either. I’ve used Leggari a lot now and the surface come out smooth as glass each time. I’m a contractor and their contractor pricing is excellent. Also, the new “Ultimate Top Coat” from Stone Coat is amazing. It takes practice to get it on without visible lap lines but it can be done. I do a lot of restaurants and I’m actually going back over tables I’ve done before, taking them back to the shop and adding the Top Coat. It leaves a very fine orange peel texture but it makes the top nearly scratch proof.
Great info! I would suggest however, DO NOT USE paper filters. Use mask with replaceable filter CARTRIDGES that filter BOTH fumes and particulate matter. My dad used epoxy resins for years. He used just the paper face filters. Unfortunately they allowed micro scopic amounts of fumes and resin dust from sanding to pass through the filter into his lungs. He developed COPD and eventually passed from the build up of epoxy in his lungs. Epoxy is a great product to work with, but use better filters than just those paper shields.
Tim Scheidler thanks! I was gonna have those clips in color but they were all such different color and quality I couldn’t color correct them well enough to look cohesive, sooooo b&w it is! 😂👊🏻
and hey - add our CLEAR HALCYON Varnish in a bag on top of your epoxy products for a SUPER UV protective coating that won't change the color of your epoxy projects or wood!
I am thinking of doing a DIY update to my kitchen countertop until I can afford to renovate. How does Totalboat compare with Stonecoat epoxy? I have never worked with epoxy before so this will be all new for me. Thanks
Sooooo wish - I would have seen this video Saturday before I poured my Famowood but it’s okay. Still nice but I’ll keep total boat in mind for the near future.
Michel'le Feaster haha, yeah i wish i had decided on the Total Boat before i used Famowood on my first order of 83 tabletops, haha! Hopefully you'll have another opportunity where you can try TotalBoat 😃
Have you used stone coat countertop epoxy. I’ve used it and love it. Only catch it’s expensive. I’m interested in the total boat but not sure. What do you think?
no i haven't used stone coat, but i was seeing their ads running through my instagram feed constantly, so i ended up hiding the ad, lol!! I felt like the Total Boat was priced really fairly. They have other products that get a little more pricey but since i've only needed the tabletop epoxy, i've been more than happy with it! 👍🏻
Thank you for the in depth review. I'm looking to create my first resin table and this was great info. Do you think these products would still be good for a tabletop that is not going to have a wooden bottom? I want my table to be transparent, but I am considering using a lexan base if it will hold up to the curing temps.
Hi Cassie, glad the video helped! That's a great question. I think you'd be okay but you might need to sand and polish the top and bottom to get it as clear as possible. TotalBoat has a few other products as well, including one that is a thick pour formula but I haven't tried that one yet. You might want to check with one of their reps for more details and maybe ask which of their products would be best for your project! :)
@@stuffsethmakes I am definitely prepared to do some edge rounding, sanding and polishing. There are not a lot of videos out there with steps for larger projects, only small ones. Thanks for the response and the advice!
Hi there. I am looking to made lids for some heavy duty glass vases I have. I was wondering what the best quality resin is out there that will best resemble glass. My goal is to try and make it seem like the lid came with the vase and wasn't made separately or "cheaply" if that makes sense? Thank you so much in advance for any advice!
Jocelyn R hi! while i would love to recommend the TotalBoat product, i think for your application you may want to look into something called Ice Resin. I'm not certain if that's the correct name but it's close. You'll need to make a mold for your part if you haven't already, but I believe the Ice Resin is used a lot for jewelry (i've never used it) and dries really glassy clear with no bubbles. Do a little searching on the web and i think you'll find the product i'm referring to. Good luck with your project!
Jocelyn R i'm just not sure this particular total bot product is the right one. check with total bot to see if they have a recommendation, as i'm not familiar with their entire product line.
Hi, I had an issue. I did my kitchen countertop and eventhough I saw that the epoxy was perfect flat, the day after appeared some random holes-circular separates.I dont know why and i dont know if i can fix it. Could you please let me know if there is a solution and if I can avoid this problem in the future? Thanks
Elizabeth Miani check my other video too ( ruclips.net/video/NK4htWcTI50/видео.html ). i've found that epoxy is a heavy substance. if there's any hole or imperfection in your surface, the epoxy will find it. i would pour it perfectly smooth and come back a few hours later to find small sink holes and imperfections. i ended up doing 3 coats on all my table tops.
Likely surface tension. You can probably go over it with a thin clear coat. If it's too uneven, you can sand your piece and clear coat it. It should dry crystal clear.
not sure off-hand, you'd have to check the documentation. I want to say I seem to get a good 20-30 minutes-ish to move it around the workpiece depending on the conditions.
Good video. I’m gonna go with the total boat for a sink. Great appreciation for flying the American flag. But you are presenting it backwards. Do some flag presentation research! Flip your flag! All good great video!
I’d love to see a similar video comparing Total boat to MAS, Leggari, and StoneCoat
I've done a few projects with MAS. I'm not an expert on epoxy but I've done a number of projects with multiple brands. With MAS, I refinished a built in sink, a cheap desk, 2 art projects, 2 trivets, a TV tray and a handheld tray.
My thoughts: It sets up WAY too quick for my liking so if you have any designs you're trying to do, it makes it very difficult. It also gets EXTREMELY hot if you try to use a helix mixer (unless you go really slow). This can be a pain if you're trying to mix a large batch. There is a bit of an odor. I didn't think it was too bad but my daughter said she smelled it through a mask. It self levels decently but it doesn't flow like other epoxies I've used. I sand and clean everything and still end up with surface tension at times.
Conversely, It does cure pretty clear. I haven't had any issues with cloudiness. I also haven't had any issues so far with durability. It cures to the touch fairly quickly. I was able to add mica powder with no problem. Air bubbles are minimal and easy to pop with a heat gun or mini torch.
I actually complained to them and they sent me a free bottle. They tried to get me to remove my review and even kind of blamed me in the reply email but I didn't comply lol.
Overall, I'd say if you don't need something with a decent work time, it's decent if you want to save money. I got it because I didn't want to shell out the $ for Stone Coat, Leggari or Art Resin at the time. I've used Envirotex and gotten better results but on smaller projects. I hope this helps.
Hollis2Hollywood Thanks. I did read this when you posted but didn’t respond. Your experience is exactly what mine was using Total Boat. Very short work time and lots of surface tension unless I used a ratio of almost 6 oz per sq ft which offset the cost benefit. I’ve used them all now and there’s nothing like Leggari. Very fluid and very easy to use. No torching or heat gun required. No chopping either. I’ve used Leggari a lot now and the surface come out smooth as glass each time. I’m a contractor and their contractor pricing is excellent.
Also, the new “Ultimate Top Coat” from Stone Coat is amazing. It takes practice to get it on without visible lap lines but it can be done. I do a lot of restaurants and I’m actually going back over tables I’ve done before, taking them back to the shop and adding the Top Coat. It leaves a very fine orange peel texture but it makes the top nearly scratch proof.
I watched more than 20 videos in search for the hardness of the famowood epoxy and this is the only one I found and is great! Thank you!
i'm happy to hear you found the video helpful! 🙌🏻
Great info!
I would suggest however, DO NOT USE paper filters. Use mask with replaceable filter CARTRIDGES that filter BOTH fumes and particulate matter.
My dad used epoxy resins for years. He used just the paper face filters. Unfortunately they allowed micro scopic amounts of fumes and resin dust from sanding to pass through the filter into his lungs.
He developed COPD and eventually passed from the build up of epoxy in his lungs.
Epoxy is a great product to work with, but use better filters than just those paper shields.
One of the best epoxy vids on the entire web. Great job!
Use Total boat gleam marine varnish over their epoxy for great finish with uv protection in it.
It's so good to see quality footage, editing and foley with so much amateur quality out there. Keep up the great work!
Wow thanks for the info! So helpful!
Great explanations! I just bought some Total Boat Tabletop Epoxy for a countertop project.
VeritasEstVeritas awesome! glad this helped. Good luck with yoir project, i'm in the middle of another one too! 👍🏻
@@stuffsethmakes, would be great to have you join us on "Maker's Playground".
VeritasEstVeritas what's makers playground?
I've used both as well and I totally agree with you
Totalboat is the way to go. It was great and helpful to hear you're experience 👍
Great Video Seth, very informative
👍🏻 Glad it was helpful!
Love that intro montage. 🤘🏼
Tim Scheidler thanks! I was gonna have those clips in color but they were all such different color and quality I couldn’t color correct them well enough to look cohesive, sooooo b&w it is! 😂👊🏻
THANKS SETH! you do killer work! always!
and hey - add our CLEAR HALCYON Varnish in a bag on top of your epoxy products for a SUPER UV protective coating that won't change the color of your epoxy projects or wood!
Great breakdown. Great video. I learned a lot!
Bruce A. Ulrich 👊🏻
Very cool breakdown and well done, I am sold!
Sandy Eggo CNC thanks so much, glad it was helpful! 👊🏻
I am thinking of doing a DIY update to my kitchen countertop until I can afford to renovate. How does Totalboat compare with Stonecoat epoxy? I have never worked with epoxy before so this will be all new for me. Thanks
i've never worked with stonecoat epoxy but i'd imagine it's pretty similar.
Does the total boat cure without a vacuum? I have been using src Epox-It 80 but it is not UV protected.
sorry, not sure what you mean by vacuum? it's dry to the touch after a few hours. fully cured in probably 24 hrs-ish
Sooooo wish - I would have seen this video Saturday before I poured my Famowood but it’s okay. Still nice but I’ll keep total boat in mind for the near future.
Michel'le Feaster haha, yeah i wish i had decided on the Total Boat before i used Famowood on my first order of 83 tabletops, haha! Hopefully you'll have another opportunity where you can try TotalBoat 😃
Stuff Seth Makes have you ever stripped the Famowood to replace with total boat?
Michel'le Feaster haha, no, i havent done that but i wouldn't advise it. I don't think it'll go well! 😄
im made a desk and is covering it with stickers and a seal coat but will the boat be fine for that project
I'm going to tell my husband about this! :)
😂😂😂
Have you used stone coat countertop epoxy. I’ve used it and love it. Only catch it’s expensive. I’m interested in the total boat but not sure. What do you think?
no i haven't used stone coat, but i was seeing their ads running through my instagram feed constantly, so i ended up hiding the ad, lol!! I felt like the Total Boat was priced really fairly. They have other products that get a little more pricey but since i've only needed the tabletop epoxy, i've been more than happy with it! 👍🏻
Art coat epoxy from stone coat countertops doesn’t yellow
Do you sand between layers and how?
just lightly by hand
Thank you for the in depth review. I'm looking to create my first resin table and this was great info. Do you think these products would still be good for a tabletop that is not going to have a wooden bottom? I want my table to be transparent, but I am considering using a lexan base if it will hold up to the curing temps.
Hi Cassie, glad the video helped! That's a great question. I think you'd be okay but you might need to sand and polish the top and bottom to get it as clear as possible. TotalBoat has a few other products as well, including one that is a thick pour formula but I haven't tried that one yet. You might want to check with one of their reps for more details and maybe ask which of their products would be best for your project! :)
@@stuffsethmakes I am definitely prepared to do some edge rounding, sanding and polishing. There are not a lot of videos out there with steps for larger projects, only small ones. Thanks for the response and the advice!
Great video...thank you!...p.s. kill the background music on the next one...too distracting...that's just me. :)
And hows stone coat?
did i use stone coat?
Hi there. I am looking to made lids for some heavy duty glass vases I have. I was wondering what the best quality resin is out there that will best resemble glass. My goal is to try and make it seem like the lid came with the vase and wasn't made separately or "cheaply" if that makes sense? Thank you so much in advance for any advice!
Jocelyn R hi! while i would love to recommend the TotalBoat product, i think for your application you may want to look into something called Ice Resin. I'm not certain if that's the correct name but it's close. You'll need to make a mold for your part if you haven't already, but I believe the Ice Resin is used a lot for jewelry (i've never used it) and dries really glassy clear with no bubbles. Do a little searching on the web and i think you'll find the product i'm referring to. Good luck with your project!
@@stuffsethmakes Great! I'll check it out. Thank you :)
@@stuffsethmakes Just out of curiosity, why do you think the TotalBoat wouldn't be a good fit for this project?
Jocelyn R i'm just not sure this particular total bot product is the right one. check with total bot to see if they have a recommendation, as i'm not familiar with their entire product line.
Hi, I had an issue. I did my kitchen countertop and eventhough I saw that the epoxy was perfect flat, the day after appeared some random holes-circular separates.I dont know why and i dont know if i can fix it. Could you please let me know if there is a solution and if I can avoid this problem in the future? Thanks
Elizabeth Miani check my other video too ( ruclips.net/video/NK4htWcTI50/видео.html ). i've found that epoxy is a heavy substance. if there's any hole or imperfection in your surface, the epoxy will find it. i would pour it perfectly smooth and come back a few hours later to find small sink holes and imperfections. i ended up doing 3 coats on all my table tops.
Likely surface tension. You can probably go over it with a thin clear coat. If it's too uneven, you can sand your piece and clear coat it. It should dry crystal clear.
Your info is excellent. Please lose the music so we can hear what you’re saying.
at what part of the video is the music overpowering the dialog? i previewed the edit many times and everything sounded well-balanced. Please clarify.
still waiting for some clarification on your comment. thanks
Hi Seth one question what is the working time for both epoxies?
not sure off-hand, you'd have to check the documentation. I want to say I seem to get a good 20-30 minutes-ish to move it around the workpiece depending on the conditions.
Here only one distributor he got us using Rhino Floor coating and he just started bringing MarbleWrap... Do you know them? Any thoughs?
Victor Caraveo sorry never heard of it.
Price has gone up double in 2 years. Kinda insane price jump
what price has doubled? epoxy? i just looked at Total Boat and it's $64 for a 1-gallon kit and $114 for a 2-gallon kit.
what would your choice be between west systems or incredible solutions epoxy?
Spek is this a video comparing west systems vs incredible solutions?
@@stuffsethmakes no, I am asking your opinion between those products if you've had experience using them.
@@stuffsethmakes lol
What about ecopoxy? I’ve heard horror stories of the Home Depot famowood stuff.
i haven't used ecopoxy and i don't use the home depot famowood stuff anymore.
Famowood takes temporary dents?!? I wouldn't like that for most stuff
Total boat gallon is now 180 on Amazon lol
$62.15 as of today October 23, 2022. Not sure what you're looking at. TotalBoat Table Top Epoxy Resin 1 Gallon Kit - a.co/d/feRuKig
Idk this has bad reviews on Amazon
4.5 out of 5 stars, with 3,746 reviews doesn't sound like bad reviews if you ask me. Try again!
Good video. I’m gonna go with the total boat for a sink. Great appreciation for flying the American flag. But you are presenting it backwards. Do some flag presentation research! Flip your flag! All good great video!
That was the first thing I noticed as soon as this video loaded. Good video Seth.