Did Ace Frehley Consider Leaving KISS in 1975 Before ALIVE!?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @lawsonfan5797
    @lawsonfan5797 Год назад +32

    " He was probably just trying to think of shit that rhymed."
    There's yer answer.

  • @joeymills8121
    @joeymills8121 Год назад +29

    Ace Frehley was the man in kiss

  • @NoNotMe0000
    @NoNotMe0000 Год назад +9

    Ace Frehley, like the rest of the band, had magic! I was 13 years old in 1976, when I first saw KISS at Anaheim Stadium. Was 14 in 1977 and got tickets for all 3 sold-out shows at the L.A. Forum. Went on to see them at Irvine amp w Ace and again, w no make-up at a Burbank airport hangar rehearsing with Ace, then on the reunion tour in L.A. 96/97.
    I saw them w/o Ace in the 80's, no make-up and they were painfully boring. Gene Paul Peter and Ace were KISS! I lived thru it. Amen!

    • @bobbysmela3942
      @bobbysmela3942 Год назад +1

      My first concert was KISS in 1975. I was 6 then it was in Detroit at Cobo Hall.

  • @franciscomedina3776
    @franciscomedina3776 Год назад +7

    The Ace solo album was my favorite

  • @mdlg5043
    @mdlg5043 Год назад +17

    Ace is such a talented individual.
    did y'all know that besides an amazing guitar God, Ace is also a plumber?
    lmao!

    • @hadleymanmusic
      @hadleymanmusic Год назад +4

      His dad owned an electric motor shop ill bet Ace can wind an electric motor. I talked to his mom Esther back in 87? She said her husband was still workin windin motors. Dad didnt want to quit work. And money was there at no problem when needed after Ace made alot but dad wasnt gonna free ride on it. Thats what she told me. She liked to play cards with her friends weekly.

    • @michaeloday466
      @michaeloday466 10 месяцев назад +1

      And he played a mean "Trout" too.

  • @SnotrocketLT4
    @SnotrocketLT4 Год назад +9

    Ace’s solo album was BY FAR the best of the 4. It’s a masterpiece, start to finish. Every song is great! It’s way better than a lot of Kiss albums.

  • @Idontlikethatshit.
    @Idontlikethatshit. Год назад +7

    Ace's signature solo playing was on full display on "Get Away"

  • @willchew4040
    @willchew4040 Год назад +10

    ACE FOREVER !!!

  • @lassel1644
    @lassel1644 Год назад +17

    That was when Alive exploded! Leaving Kiss then would have been a bad decision

    • @johnnichols3113
      @johnnichols3113 Год назад +4

      I'll never forget listening to my sister's Alive album over and over. Then i found a copy of Double Platinum at a yard sale and wore that vynil out. Kiss had some great songs for young boys like myself at the time.

  • @joshuakajune7322
    @joshuakajune7322 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is my favorite song on Dressed to kill. Didn’t realize ace wrote it. Love peter on this one.

  • @martyyoung3611
    @martyyoung3611 Год назад +10

    The most talented one of the group.

  • @chadpittman3025
    @chadpittman3025 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ace was my favorite of the band

  • @stevelynch5843
    @stevelynch5843 Год назад +2

    Ace was my guitar hero growing up in 75 I was 11 and heard them for the first time blow me away, but he had a lot to do with his dysfunction in the band

  • @user-us1zu3ub4f
    @user-us1zu3ub4f Год назад +3

    Super KISS my favorite ACE FREILY SPACE MAN❤😊

  • @stormbringercoming8105
    @stormbringercoming8105 Год назад +9

    His addictions and lack of professionalism after gaining success was his downfall. He was already blowing off his role by Destroyer.

  • @bigjay123
    @bigjay123 Год назад +8

    Kiss is the most dysfunctional, break up, make up, successful band and they're all still living.

  • @bobbypyszniak641
    @bobbypyszniak641 Год назад +14

    Ace is God

    • @andrewandy137
      @andrewandy137 Год назад +1

      Bobby Pyszniak No he's not Jesus is. Even Ace Frehley would agree with that as he is a Christian now

    • @sixstringhans-tone5574
      @sixstringhans-tone5574 11 месяцев назад

      @@andrewandy137Why do people say Jesus is god? Aren’t ya supposed to prey to god? Jesus was a mortal. Besides Jesus was telling people we’re all god, but the truth is KISS IS GOD! 😮😂

    • @andrewandy137
      @andrewandy137 11 месяцев назад

      @@sixstringhans-tone5574 I'm a Kiss fan like you but Rock n Roll and Christianity don't mix.

    • @sixstringhans-tone5574
      @sixstringhans-tone5574 11 месяцев назад

      @@andrewandy137 I see…..PEACE!

  • @l.morningstar2671
    @l.morningstar2671 Год назад +12

    Ace was too good for kiss

  • @FerretJohn
    @FerretJohn Год назад +4

    And Gene and Paul had been thinking of firing him just as early. Gene and Paul never drank, never smoked, never did drugs, they did ALOT of women, but otherwise their chief passion was making KISS the hottest and most successful band in Heavy Metal History. Peter and Ace preferred to get drunk and high and party, their lack of professionalism got on Gene and Paul's nerves, especially when the group went on a talk show and the two of them were wasted.

    • @metalmarty3948
      @metalmarty3948 Год назад +1

      Well said 100%

    • @petesevern7638
      @petesevern7638 Год назад +2

      @Ferret, 🐂-lony!
      Paul drank and did some drugs, (not many,) but kept it all under control.

    • @sixstringhans-tone5574
      @sixstringhans-tone5574 11 месяцев назад +1

      Take it easy buddy. Well maybe they shoulda did some drugs. Sex isn’t an addiction? What I see is Gene making the band all about money. And Gene is an addict himself, that’s obvious, money is an addiction like anything else, besides he egotistical as hell. That’s such a great professional quality to have……. & either of those things don’t make him a good person. At least the only people that Ace & Peter were hurting was themselves. Sure it sucks dealing with a drunk or whatnot. It wasn’t like the drugs affected the band’s success. They both were still doin what they did for the band. They got forced out while they were still active an didn’t interfear in the band by delaying shows or records cuz they were in an out of treatment or losing out on all kinds of money that Gene was worried about. An Paul seems like a real decent guy in my opinion. And at least Pete & Ace weren’t trying to take even more advantage of their fans by trying to suck every penny out of their fans by Gene putting their name on things that have absolutely have nothin to do with their music. You could tell Gene was jealous when Ace being himself an was makin the talk show guy Tom Snyder or whatever his name is, he was laughing his ass off with him, an Gene couldn’t handle Ace taking control of the interview when Gene was trying to play his Demon part like his unsuccessful 2 second acting career in Phantom of the Park & Runaway movies that bombed. No wonder why Ace didn’t show up for the Phantom movie cuz at least maybe Ace realized he’s not an actor. It’s prolly cuz Gene was jealous, so he prolly lied an said shit like, Ace was high when we did the late night talk show or why he didn’t show up on the movie set. How do we know Gene didn’t lie about Ace supposedly being high on that talk show cuz he was jealous. Genes theme song for his reality show says it in the song, “You wish you were me. How blatantly egotistical! And then it was said that, Gene has such a boring life/tv show that they had to write scripts for some of their episodes. And Peter wrote and sang probably their most popular an most well known song, Beth. And Ace proved he was his own force by out selling the rest of the band with his solo record back in the day. And both druggies helped write the music too. Everybody has their own faults and aren’t perfect. So ya don’t have to do drugs to be a bad person, Gene proves that. An they wouldn’t be the band they are if it wasn’t for the 2 druggies in the band! Trust me I really don’t care for Gene Simmons but I like his music that he made with KISS. Kinda like I don’t like Ted Nugent cuz he’s arrogant and thinks he’s better and smarter than everybody else, what cuz he doesn’t use drugs, he proves ya don’t need drugs either, but he’s so smart he falls for the divide an conquer paradigm lie of the government political system. I don’t mind his music, but I’ve seen videos of his concerts an my bro went to see Ted an half the time he was preaching his right wing political propaganda instead of playin music for the fans that came to hear music! Aw, jeez I need a cig after all this BS, so lighten up Francis,PEACE! 😮😂😂

  • @ugadawgs1990
    @ugadawgs1990 Год назад +2

    When they replaced Ace with David Cassidy, the bad turned a corner and became a lot more popular with teen girls.

  • @janiterinadrum1627
    @janiterinadrum1627 Год назад +2

    Paul and Jean talk bad about the other two constantly… but yet that era of the band is what people pay to see with the exception of when Vinnie Vincent wrote all their songs for them

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic Год назад +3

    Leave my ass he just didnt care to go to work professionaly he was a spaceman

  • @davidmathews2599
    @davidmathews2599 Год назад +2

    Well they were certainly mesmerizing lyrics 😆

  • @nitro501
    @nitro501 Год назад +4

    All Ace could say was ACK!!!😂😂😂

  • @michaeloday466
    @michaeloday466 10 месяцев назад

    Peter Criss wrote "Get Away" and he was the reason why KISS put out Solo Albums. Ace's Album was solid, Paul's was the Best and Gene gets the award for "Most Memorable Song Titles", but Peters Sucked Out Loud as it was mostly rehashed '50s-'60s Rock and Roll and KISS Fans were a new generation.

  • @Trace7173
    @Trace7173 Год назад +4

    Average drunk guitarist would have been a nobody without Kiss, just like he is now. He should've left an maybe they could've gotten a real guitarist.

    • @PolPotsPieHole
      @PolPotsPieHole 11 месяцев назад

      He did leave and they hired a tranny to replace him, and well.....

  • @imagine9265
    @imagine9265 9 месяцев назад +1

    There personalities always clashed with one another
    you could find character defects in all the members !

  • @Normaniac
    @Normaniac Год назад +2

    I doubt very seriously an Ace Frehley song from 1975 is metaphorical lol

    • @Normaniac
      @Normaniac Год назад +1

      @@CatStanleySpaceDemon hahahah true

  • @brianstrutter1501
    @brianstrutter1501 Год назад +3

    Nah problems started in 1976 when the money started rolling in. Ace started drinking more and even skipped out on redoing solos for tje Destroyer album, replaced by Dick Wagner from Alice Cooper. Peter started his cocaine crap and his anger issues got worse.

    • @CatStanleySpaceDemon
      @CatStanleySpaceDemon  Год назад +1

      You should read the band members memoirs. They all talk about how different they all were from the very beginning and how they never hung out socially away from the band. Ace was lazy, Peter was quitting the band every five minutes. Paul was a loner, and he couldn't stand Gene from the first time he met him and hated that he hogged the spotlight. This was all before they made a dime. It's well documented.

    • @samdeninno1951
      @samdeninno1951 10 месяцев назад

      exactly

  • @IHATERALPH
    @IHATERALPH Год назад +3

    Ace wrote almost all the original songs and basically made the kiss logo Paul just sang and played guitar and was able to have the band we know now stick together he’s the glue gene was a joke for the reason he left the band to do more movies and came back and write half ass music and Peter had the looks of rock and roll but couldn’t play all fucked up every night

  • @cob2076
    @cob2076 10 месяцев назад

    "Don't want to stay,
    Leavin' tomorrow by subway"

  • @edguitarstanleyeisen6179
    @edguitarstanleyeisen6179 Год назад +1

    Getaway couldn't have been about leaving the band cause one of the lines in the song is " got no dough".

    • @CatStanleySpaceDemon
      @CatStanleySpaceDemon  Год назад

      They didn't make money until Alive! They were broke when they made that album. I talk about it in the video.

  • @Noclaf555
    @Noclaf555 Год назад +3

    Ok what has he done when not in Kiss? Nothing!

  • @tailtap2222
    @tailtap2222 Год назад +1

    Nah. Ace was just listening to a lot of punk and decided to write his own love letter to the genre.

  • @richardpeetrinpeetrin9817
    @richardpeetrinpeetrin9817 Год назад +3

    Gene (Chaim Witz), and Paul(Stanley Eisen), had Ace "black-balled"! Not cool.......

    • @bigbluegpr
      @bigbluegpr Год назад

      Ace (Paul Frehley).......there, fixed it for ya!

  • @MichaelABruce-ew8zs
    @MichaelABruce-ew8zs 2 месяца назад +1

    nooooo they didn't start making money themself till 1977

  • @daveflitton381
    @daveflitton381 10 месяцев назад

    Think of shit that rhymed!-coffee shot out my nose!! Fuckjng funny!!

  • @derricklogan2058
    @derricklogan2058 10 месяцев назад

    What's amazing to me is that after all of these years, after all of the money made and after all of the marketing and merchandise sold; all of the fame; the women; the tours and the songs.... and people are still talking, complaining and bickering is still prominent for a lot of people, which is just sad! I mean, really, who cares??? 10 seconds ago is like 10 years ago or longer! You cannot change yesterday, so leave it in the past where it belongs....In.... The....Past! The Past is over with! Move on!!!

  • @garymcelhaney1560
    @garymcelhaney1560 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ace is not a professional by any means he had a great opportunity and blew it I’ve seen countless interviews from people outside of kiss that said he’s never on time for anything and one of the laziest people in the world

  • @johnmarshall3903
    @johnmarshall3903 11 месяцев назад

    Ace is Kiss

  • @michaelhargrove5111
    @michaelhargrove5111 11 месяцев назад

    The song by Peter Criss get away was because he wanted to change his life. Not Ace frehley. Peter Criss lift the band before Ace

    • @CatStanleySpaceDemon
      @CatStanleySpaceDemon  11 месяцев назад

      Ace wrote the song. He wasn't singing lead at that point so he gave it to Peter since Peter didn't have a lead vocal on that record. It'd be a couple years before Ace summoned the courage to sing lead on Shock Me.

  • @LennysComet
    @LennysComet Год назад +1

    ya thats a far stretch, i guess paul always wanted to be a hard luck woman

  • @JamesMcClaren-fx2bs
    @JamesMcClaren-fx2bs Год назад +2

    Ace and drummer both got fired

  • @user-lf6yz1zn7b
    @user-lf6yz1zn7b Год назад +1

    😘😘😘😚😚🤩😍😍🤩🥰😍😚😘

  • @andrewbroughton65
    @andrewbroughton65 Год назад +1

    No..His substance abuse hadn't spiraled out of control at that point.He was just drunk & writing lousy lyrics..never His strong point.

  • @justingarman6980
    @justingarman6980 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nah. Just a catchy song. Nothing more. lol.

  • @Anthony-ru7sk
    @Anthony-ru7sk 10 месяцев назад

    He’s back, back with the New York Jews

  • @fuguestatetoo6789
    @fuguestatetoo6789 Год назад +1

    who???

  • @nville8795
    @nville8795 Год назад +2

    Ok...whatever.

  • @Dylan-fg9zk
    @Dylan-fg9zk Год назад +1

    Good lord, how'd you say his name?

  • @mag-nm7tw
    @mag-nm7tw Год назад +3

    Worst lead guitar player in rock history.

  • @Ramatx
    @Ramatx Год назад +1

    WHY lucky he didn’t would of went nowhere

  • @gregromano7355
    @gregromano7355 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was Dressed to Kill, they were up against the wall and had to bang out material asap. They were all team players until Alive made them, after that it started to fall apart

  • @brentjeffrey7845
    @brentjeffrey7845 Год назад +2

    Ace and Criss did nothing but pickle and drug themselves. Kiss deserved to move on. It didn’t have to be that way. 40 years later btw

  • @rod4758
    @rod4758 11 месяцев назад

    no

  • @jjojo2004
    @jjojo2004 Год назад +2

    What’s funny is that so called fans still whine and pine about Ace and Peter being gone. Good riddance and KISS still rocks in 2023! 🤘😎🤘

  • @daniellesperance4231
    @daniellesperance4231 Год назад +1

    Who cares ????

  • @toenailtom654
    @toenailtom654 Год назад +2

    Kiss was garbage always have been a mediocre GarageBand at best

    • @andrewandy137
      @andrewandy137 Год назад +1

      Toenail Tom ,not really. KISS were a better rock n roll band than the New York Dolls when they first started. Over the decades they made some good music, especially when Bruce Kulick joined the band. A damn good guitar player and technically the best guitar player KISS ever had Eric Carr was a power house drummer,and Eric Singer is an excellent drummer too having a good resume he has played with Gary Moore ,Black Sabbath ,Alice Cooper Lita Ford Olivia Newton John and many others. If KISS were mediocre they wouldn't have sold over 100 million albums worldwide. They are respected and liked by their peers that include Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin and Brian May from Queen and many others. It's only the haters and musical snobs who say they are a garage band when they clearly aren't.

    • @toenailtom654
      @toenailtom654 Год назад

      @andrewandy137 Mmmmm, they sold so much because Americans love mediocrity. Look at Taylor Swift .She sucks yet sells out stadiums.
      Rhianna, Be-gon-sey, Americans eat up horrible music. Kiss just another 4 at best.

  • @bodgiesteve8849
    @bodgiesteve8849 10 месяцев назад

    Was he the gay one?

  • @daveyboy_
    @daveyboy_ Год назад +1

    What a horrible concept for Band.

  • @Norbert6677
    @Norbert6677 10 месяцев назад

    Bubble gum band

  • @davidfornkahl8374
    @davidfornkahl8374 10 месяцев назад

    Boo hoo! Poor Ace!

  • @monty4336
    @monty4336 Год назад +1

    This is probably the dumbest analogy of song lyics Ive ever heard anyone speak. Why on earth would he have wanted to leave the only chance for success before getting success. Some people read too much into everything. 🙄

    • @CatStanleySpaceDemon
      @CatStanleySpaceDemon  10 месяцев назад

      KISS were struggling during the making of Dressed To Kill, they didn't have a pot to whizz in. In fact, it was around this time Paul Stanley went to their manager Bill Aucoin for a loan and changed his mind when he noticed a hole in Bill's shoe patched up with duct tape.

  • @thomassmall4511
    @thomassmall4511 8 месяцев назад +1

    Gene simmons sucks

  • @jameshughes6049
    @jameshughes6049 Год назад +1

    Dude you're way off.

  • @philipmccarthy6175
    @philipmccarthy6175 10 месяцев назад

    Kiss are the worst rock band of all-time.

  • @saintdamien8290
    @saintdamien8290 10 месяцев назад +1

    The least talented of the group

  • @bigbluegpr
    @bigbluegpr Год назад +1

    Pretty much all Ace ever thought of besides playing guitar was when he could get wasted again. Hr made his own bed and then had to sleep in it, and he's done nothing but whine about it ever since.

  • @Yancree305
    @Yancree305 Год назад +1

    The most overrated band in the world 🌎

  • @KISSFAN1970
    @KISSFAN1970 10 месяцев назад

    No