The PERFECT Counter to EVERY Deck! | Sera Control is Better Than Ever! | Marvel Snap

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @MattyBmemes
    @MattyBmemes Год назад +205

    NEVER FORGET: COZY promised us a GOLD FOIL PIXEL (and crackle) MODOK. I WILL NOT REST TILL COZY FUFILLES HIS OATH

  • @tomekk.1889
    @tomekk.1889 Год назад +117

    It's crazy that I've played like 20 games since yesterday and haven't seen shadow king even once after the buff (I'm infinite). People really don't understand how that cards works I think

    • @nightbarongaming3237
      @nightbarongaming3237 Год назад +35

      They were waiting for cozy to upload decks with him 😅

    • @Schrodingers_Cat25
      @Schrodingers_Cat25 Год назад +6

      I am a shadow king user. I use him in my surfer decks. Yesterday I was hit with the shadow king nerf cuz you know silver surfer synergy. I will still keep him in my surfer decks as his irrelevancy makes him an absolute unit. I am using HE decks now tho bcz a HE a day keeps those lokis away

    • @shoutoutboxden9757
      @shoutoutboxden9757 Год назад +4

      Too busy playing allioth

    • @neojd
      @neojd Год назад +2

      Seen him a couple times in conquest but not as much as I thought there’d be.

    • @iDrKx
      @iDrKx Год назад +5

      I meet Shadow King, Alioth Galactus or Loki every game in EU

  • @oftenbetterthanone
    @oftenbetterthanone Год назад +9

    A meta deck with Shadow King and Snowguard... what a time to be alive.

  • @TheSubconscious022
    @TheSubconscious022 Год назад +36

    Honestly the prevalence of alioth really hurts sera. Can still win but not having priority into alioth is brutal. Lockdown matchups in particular are pretty bad.

    • @crash2bandicot
      @crash2bandicot Год назад +8

      Sera is actively bad in this meta

    • @ThallesMan
      @ThallesMan Год назад +2

      And will be even worse when Mobius arrives

    • @vermjn1211
      @vermjn1211 Год назад +3

      ​@@ThallesManrogue/mobius can counter the other mobius

    • @lhellhammer
      @lhellhammer Год назад +1

      Yep , ran into this in conquest, and honestly felt bad for the other guy.

    • @natojigames
      @natojigames Год назад +1

      Second that. Sera has nothing to do or counter the meta, especially in Conquest. The Alioth/Galac/ProfX absolutely annilhates it, and the Alioth's rising counter, Evo/Armor/Cosmos/Wave will kill the dream on turn 5. I love the archetype but you will end up behind those in terms of priority early, so to lose.

  • @ValestiWow
    @ValestiWow Год назад +3

    Hey Cozy, I think at 18:47 you could have thought about Shang-Chi'ing the Collector since he was so close to 9 and it would not be unlikely that your opponent might raise his power. I like those Conquest games, keep it up!

  • @MichaelMassotto
    @MichaelMassotto Год назад +1

    Last night I was telling my snap buddies that someone's gonna engineer a Sera CTRL deck with the buffed Shadow King. Excited to try this out!

  • @jonnyjackjaw
    @jonnyjackjaw Год назад +2

    Thanks as always for another awesome video

  • @305kennyken
    @305kennyken Год назад

    I've been getting so many people with snow guard Hawk when they play Magic. It's funny and I'm happy you're the first RUclipsr I know who mentioned snow guard Hawk to counter Magic

  • @TheMrcoryrsmith
    @TheMrcoryrsmith Год назад +15

    Thanks Cozy for exposing the deck I was using to climb. Now everyone knows my secret. Also the better name for it is Miracle Monkey, because you can get an absolutelly huge monkey on turn 6

    • @samuelludescher6978
      @samuelludescher6978 Год назад +4

      Stealing this name. Hopefully no one will notice me until I'm infinite

    • @tomekk.1889
      @tomekk.1889 Год назад

      This deck has existed for the game's entire lifespan lmao what are you talking about

    • @TheMrcoryrsmith
      @TheMrcoryrsmith Год назад +1

      @@tomekk.1889 no one said it wasn’t around? I said no one was playing it. Now, it’s going to get popular like every deck cozy goes over

  • @MattGoesSplat
    @MattGoesSplat Год назад +5

    Would love to see more Ladder play - the topic I’m interested in is hitting Infinite. Reached Infinite in July and August this year, but I often get stuck forever in the mid-90s and would love some tips for how to navigate that final push.

    • @DeputyNomNoms
      @DeputyNomNoms Год назад +1

      My thought was also that the meta is in kind of a weird place where most of what we'll see in Conquest is Loki so taking these decks into ladder will better showcase it up against other deck types

    • @leandrocarvalho7707
      @leandrocarvalho7707 Год назад +1

      I was stuck forever between 95 - 100 😅 I used a destroy deck with Alioth and Shang, often lost to Galactus and pretty much any deck with Armour

    • @jonathan99399
      @jonathan99399 Год назад

      Stuck in 68-71 😢

    • @leandrocarvalho7707
      @leandrocarvalho7707 Год назад +1

      @@jonathan99399 this meta is annoying, you need answers to both Loki/Collector and then Alioth/Galactus 😅 but then also the other decks in-between

    • @jonathan99399
      @jonathan99399 Год назад +1

      @@leandrocarvalho7707 it’s definitely annoying! I find myself switching out decks I’ve loved for months. Still, it doesn’t diminish the pure joy and in-yo-face elation of a win!

  • @dragonz1920
    @dragonz1920 Год назад +1

    Not too long ago I was sad that I spent 3 spotlights and couldnt get alioth, seeing a deck where I can use hit monkey and snowguard definitely makes it better

  • @alphacorgi_2764
    @alphacorgi_2764 Год назад

    Dude I freaking love this deck. It’s been so fun. I’ve tried some OP decks you’ve made but this one is just so much fun to play.

  • @HenryZhoupokemon
    @HenryZhoupokemon Год назад +5

    Time to put Luke cage defensively into decks like it was evo season again

  • @nickmajora
    @nickmajora Год назад +1

    Got HIt Monkey this week so looking to finally play a good amount of Sera Control and this new version looks nice.

  • @sAKecOkE
    @sAKecOkE Год назад +10

    Too much Wave going on right now in my opinion for this to be consistently beating stuff :/

  • @ranggarazani9875
    @ranggarazani9875 Год назад

    i couldn't agree more when you say that shadow king is insane. i have been playing shadow king with the surfer shadow deck last season to hit infinite on ladder an gain infinite ticket on conquest. a little dissappointed on the buff cause it completely ruined my surfer shadow list deck (had to make huge adjustment) but yeah feels nice to see shadow king get the appreciation he deserves.

  • @jamestruelove8937
    @jamestruelove8937 Год назад +1

    I have a quick question what do you replace with snow guard and hit monkey if you don't have those two? Oh yeah by the way cozy love your Snapchat annulled by the way you have been killing it thank you for that guy's from time to time and you just been a really good helpful for me man thank you❤!

  • @2PieceandABiscuit
    @2PieceandABiscuit Год назад

    Sera control was the first deck tjat got me infinite. Happy to see shadow king and like cage added into this build! Great stuff cozy!!!

  • @plugindave
    @plugindave Год назад +1

    Been running Shadow King with a Darkhawk/Ronan deck and it has made Loki so much easier to deal with.
    It's especially funny when they use Loki and steal your Shadow King, only to then try to use it on one of your ongoing cards only for it not to work because it doesn't work on Ongoings 😅
    It's pretty fun watching Shadow King nerf the opponents board while Darkhawk/Ronan or Mystique stay at the same power

  • @coolshirtkid
    @coolshirtkid Год назад +1

    cozy just keeps getting better at making vids! keep up the great work

  • @hi2036
    @hi2036 Год назад +6

    I'm looking forward to play Mobius in Sera Control soon. I think he is a perfect fit for what the deck wants to do.

  • @shaunmullen6197
    @shaunmullen6197 Год назад

    WOH, wasnt expecting the sweet zoom in

  • @therailgun_8299
    @therailgun_8299 Год назад +1

    Only card I'm missing is spider pig but I replaced it with Scarlet Witch and deck runs like a fine machine. I need more practice with piloting but damn I'm in love.

  • @JeremyHoffman
    @JeremyHoffman Год назад +1

    Sera Control with no Killmonger, Enchantress, or Rogue! What a day. I guess Shadow King would undo your Nova buffs (unless Luke is in play)

  • @gamesjunkie
    @gamesjunkie Год назад +2

    Dude, I hadn't even considered using Shadow King in Sera Control. And I have to tell you, it feels gooooood. Thanks for the science, Cozy🤘

  • @rodd9734
    @rodd9734 Год назад

    Great deck Cozy! love your content. Any suggestions regarding replacements for Spider-Ham?

  • @MagerBlutooth
    @MagerBlutooth Год назад

    I never thought about Mysterio in Deep Space. Playing the real one there doesn’t create the illusions.

  • @AchimaelProductions
    @AchimaelProductions Год назад +1

    Man, I love that Max Grecke Sera variant. I have it and it's definitely one of my favorites.

    • @eagleye44
      @eagleye44 Год назад +1

      Popped in the shop yeaterday, was an instabuy. And i usually skip 98% of variants.

    • @AchimaelProductions
      @AchimaelProductions Год назад

      @@eagleye44 Same! I am so glad I had the gold to spare!

  • @spincut13
    @spincut13 Год назад

    3:14 Yeah but every cerebro deck even WITH Chavez doesn’t always draw ceb; so yeah sometimes it seems really bad to try stuff without her upping the draw possibles.

  • @adn2601
    @adn2601 Год назад

    Just got to infinite yesterday with this deck even with nerfed up KP. I don't have SG so I replaced her with Scarlet Witch for location control. My only advice when piloting this deck is know when to hold priority and read lanes specially for last turn(where opponent will lilely Alioth, Knull, etc.)
    Another is SK can't affect ongoing cards and buffs from ongoing cards.
    Also this deck dies from turn 5 wave if you're not careful

  • @rainbowgiggle1120
    @rainbowgiggle1120 Год назад

    luv ur variants and splits.... they are amazing...
    where can we get some of these variants from...

  • @Rin-zb4jg
    @Rin-zb4jg Год назад +1

    How did I not notice the Franky music in the background

  • @henrychurch7362
    @henrychurch7362 Год назад +1

    I pushed for infinite for the first time this season, and was fairly easy until the 90s, I'm playing destroy. But it seems like into the 90s is where people start to spend and so everyone has loki, alioth, etc etc, and anyone not playing loki has armour and draws them for turn 2, I hit 97 but quickly dropped to 93 and have hit a wall

    • @brydee301
      @brydee301 Год назад

      I'm in the exact same position mate. Frustrating!!

    • @alishojaee8041
      @alishojaee8041 Год назад

      Or just run basic Shuri + Red skull

  • @lfreddub2763
    @lfreddub2763 Год назад +2

    I've found Shadow King doesn't work on ongoing cards like Devil Dino.

  • @smallmetalowl3209
    @smallmetalowl3209 Год назад

    I appreciate the irony of how, pre-nerf, Ham was a hard counter to any Sera deck, and now he’s part of one.

  • @ardsleyparkproductions
    @ardsleyparkproductions Год назад

    It’s days like this when Cozy posts a Sera deck that you can just run any deck with Wave in it and farm some cubes.

  • @mattmullins8054
    @mattmullins8054 Год назад

    love the work cozy
    i dont have pig or monkey, who would you put in place?
    thanks

  • @ByrnedOut
    @ByrnedOut Год назад

    Man you've got me so torn here! I want to get Hit monkey from the spotlight, I pulled Alioth on my first go but I already have Snowguard so I'm at a 1 in 3. Now I want to play this deck and can't decide!

  • @leetabix
    @leetabix Год назад +1

    With Alioth being the way it is at the moment, I'm surprised more people aren't using Viper to give their opponent Ghost.

    • @m7mad182
      @m7mad182 Год назад +1

      ??? I haven't played against alioth in 2 days bruh is something wrong with the
      Matchmaking 😂🤣

    • @MUFC9993
      @MUFC9993 Год назад

      @@m7mad182 me too I really haven't seen much of him since he's been out tbh

    • @MisterCasket
      @MisterCasket Год назад +1

      Since his release he is a stable in my decks. So satisfying to wipe out cards so beautifully.
      I only dream of an 'opposite' card of Ghost. One that gives the player always priority.

  • @TheFingon3020
    @TheFingon3020 Год назад

    any update on discard deck for black cat? without sliver samurai/daken.

  • @NinjaGuidesHQ
    @NinjaGuidesHQ Год назад

    why does shadow not work on dino?

  • @ThaWonderMann88
    @ThaWonderMann88 Год назад

    The Move archetype is my bread and butter but I do love seeing a Sera deck.

  • @thatoneadamkid24
    @thatoneadamkid24 Год назад

    I started running a sera surfer with SK and it's been great so far

  • @PancitCanton999
    @PancitCanton999 Год назад +1

    Cozy legend. Word of warning: Loki stole my SK and Luke Cage today, very feels bad. Ended up removing Luke 😢

  • @figueroa1322
    @figueroa1322 Год назад

    does it make a difference running Ghost with Shadow King to ensure the turn 6 hit? Not sure if there's data on that

  • @RyDarrick1
    @RyDarrick1 Год назад

    Is there a good alternative to Mysterio?

  • @jeremydavis4540
    @jeremydavis4540 Год назад

    If you don’t have snow guard who would you replace with

  • @TehStylishone
    @TehStylishone Год назад

    Is there a sera deck that can fight the Galatcus+Alioth combo? That is getting me in conquest right now.

  • @toddkilber1971
    @toddkilber1971 Год назад

    instead of spiderham would nebula work better or maybe armor?

  • @VinsmokeSanji-
    @VinsmokeSanji- Год назад

    If you have luke cage down does that mean sk cant remove the power of you hit monkey kitty mysterio angela and bishop?

  • @mrmutantlarry
    @mrmutantlarry Год назад

    I don't know if cozy read these comments, but I just started using the new marvel run app and one of the missions is called Rock and Hawks lol

  • @Liisjak
    @Liisjak Год назад +1

    Wait I didn't know Luke protects also buffed cards...I thought it was just base power.

  • @cycle1990
    @cycle1990 Год назад

    why havent they done another event like before with the chinese fest or symbiote stuff?

  • @purplelad44
    @purplelad44 Год назад

    How do you shut down the nimrod venom b.s??

  • @delirium1326
    @delirium1326 Год назад +1

    Bast seems like it would be really strong in this deck. Maybe sub out Lizard or spider ham for it

    • @HenryZhoupokemon
      @HenryZhoupokemon Год назад +2

      Top player lambyseries has Chavez over lizard and bast over ham in his variation of sera control aka

    • @delirium1326
      @delirium1326 Год назад

      @@HenryZhoupokemonsounds solid! Glad my suggestion was in line with lamby 😅

  • @tokugawa7
    @tokugawa7 Год назад

    Diggin the kinda nfl prime time music!

  • @lhellhammer
    @lhellhammer Год назад

    Ran into this a couple times in conquest. It struggles against alioth control.

    • @MisterCasket
      @MisterCasket Год назад

      Yup. When I have Daredevil and an Alioth, I'll take her out for sure

  • @Brionkendo
    @Brionkendo Год назад

    Hey you finally put the deck codes up!

  • @BHnoten
    @BHnoten Год назад

    Just hit infinite for the first time with this deck thank you❤❤❤

  • @cjbee3839
    @cjbee3839 Год назад

    Hi I want to try this deck but I’d rather eat rotten eggs from a pig trough than play Shang chi. What’s a good replacement?

  • @happypigeonproductions8633
    @happypigeonproductions8633 Год назад

    Been teching in wave against low drop decks and man it feels so good to snap into a wave in turn 5/6 and see them retreat after the reveal 💀💀💀

  • @ShounenRoach
    @ShounenRoach Год назад

    Chavez effect needs to be changed to "Draw this card on the last turn of the game."
    Cause drawing her on turn 6, when there's a turn 7, is brutal.

  • @JaymisHawk
    @JaymisHawk Год назад +1

    So apparently SK doesn't work on buffed Ultron Drones - that's interesting.

    • @Swingboy88
      @Swingboy88 Год назад +4

      SK never worked against ongoing buffs

    • @JaymisHawk
      @JaymisHawk Год назад +2

      @@Swingboy88 Ah fair enough. Wasn't aware. Thanks for the tip :)

  • @gianlucazanna8117
    @gianlucazanna8117 Год назад

    But what can I put instead of snowcards?

  • @TusharRoy01
    @TusharRoy01 Год назад +1

    Commenting for the algorithm ✊🏾

  • @chrishughes8102
    @chrishughes8102 Год назад

    I have been using a variation on this since the ota patch - had a weird interaction with Morbius & Shadow King though, - didnt reset his power? was confusing!

    • @stefann8291
      @stefann8291 Год назад +2

      Shadow King doesn’t work on cards buffed by their own ongoings.

  • @brandonsparks9747
    @brandonsparks9747 Год назад +1

    I have seen so much Alioth Galactus Wave I just think the meta is not great for this deck to be effective right now.

  • @Kiryu_chan0
    @Kiryu_chan0 Год назад

    Mobius has a perfect home in Sera. It protects against Wave and is also a direct counter to Loki. Win-win against both the bad matchups!

  • @tekozlofiu
    @tekozlofiu Год назад

    13:14 Clean battle? Modok to the right wins. It was a tight coinflip.

    • @cozysnap
      @cozysnap  Год назад

      Fair since you’ll allow his Modok right let’s put my last second kitty pryde from the middle in that lane as well. 😉

  • @GiaraTheBear
    @GiaraTheBear Год назад

    How come in Match 1 of the Conquest, your turn 6 King reset Daken but not your Angela, but on Match 2 your King resets his Angela to 0?

  • @tik8588
    @tik8588 Год назад

    Why is shadow king in marvel snap (I have the iPad version) it’s still 3 cost is there a problem with my version?

  • @AljoschaW1993
    @AljoschaW1993 Год назад +2

    Chavez in Sera make sense what do you think ?

    • @lussor1
      @lussor1 Год назад +2

      2:54

    • @sasquatchthesquatch3357
      @sasquatchthesquatch3357 Год назад +6

      Cozys argument is lacking substance, this deck really wants specific cards turn 1-3 (bishop, Angela, kitty), that's the main reason you play Chavez. Let alone sera t5

    • @AljoschaW1993
      @AljoschaW1993 Год назад +2

      ​@@sasquatchthesquatch3357that's true you must draw Sera this is the Point from Lamby

    • @SquidJustice
      @SquidJustice Год назад +2

      ​@sasquatchthesquatch3357 Honestly. When you go for that specific set of cards, Chavez is a good choice. If you're using a different version of this Sera deck however, it's not really needed.

  • @wolfgangbertges5411
    @wolfgangbertges5411 Год назад

    No matter how many times I’ve played this version of Ciara I have never been able to pull off this combo. I have never gotten Sierra before turn five. I don’t understand how people make this work.

  • @geebzz7938
    @geebzz7938 Год назад

    Idk about you but I have armor in like every deck atm, alioth ignoring priority is just gnarly, i saw an alioth in a patriot deck yesterday like what

    • @jackkawf4449
      @jackkawf4449 Год назад

      Nimrod and wolverine work too

    • @geebzz7938
      @geebzz7938 Год назад

      @@jackkawf4449 I don’t have nimrod yet 😭

  • @RoboJean1994
    @RoboJean1994 Год назад

    You had so many good songs in the background, what are titles of those? 🤔

  • @Thats_ShadeTTV
    @Thats_ShadeTTV Год назад

    I thought hit monkey is to be the last card played on the turn you use him :( I know nothing

  • @DoctorBoom.
    @DoctorBoom. Год назад

    is there a replacement for snowguard in this deck?

  • @Honestlytruth
    @Honestlytruth Год назад

    How does this counter alioth?

  • @nilesrodriguez4343
    @nilesrodriguez4343 Год назад

    Of course I just got Sera, still missing Spiderham and Snowguard...

  • @jinxerific
    @jinxerific Год назад

    America Chavez is good because your deck is an 11-card one... at turn 1, you have 4/11 compared to 4/12 cards to draw the specific card.
    So basically, there is a 36% vs. a 30% chance to get Sera at turn 1.
    If so, adding turns and drawing more cards will improve the odds.
    So, at the 5th turn, you have a 73% chance to have it by turn 5; at turn 6, the card is useless anyway, and America, even if drawn, certainly will not be played.
    If the deck depends on a combination of cards, I suggest adding Chavez for the long run.
    This allows them to not forfeit the match because of missing Sera.
    We are a Control deck... we control odds too.

  • @amon__7187
    @amon__7187 Год назад

    What is background music?

  • @Jaguar2kicks
    @Jaguar2kicks Год назад +1

    Obviously I play shadow king but also have Valkyrie waiting to mess with their powers lol

  • @spincut13
    @spincut13 Год назад

    Real talk though, I’m especially curious if you have started thinking about how Mobius is gonna affect Sera, period..?

  • @Grayfox541
    @Grayfox541 Год назад

    I don't know why people are saying Sera is bad in this meta, I just wiped the floor with a few opponents that were using a Loki deck.

  • @michaelwhitney6662
    @michaelwhitney6662 Год назад +1

    I didn’t realize if you used shadow king on a pig their points go to zero!?

    • @jackkawf4449
      @jackkawf4449 Год назад

      Pug card is a zero at base, but turning their card to a pig is just doing that, it's a pig, but gets to keep it's power, just not it's abilities

  • @lCE8
    @lCE8 Год назад

    I hate the economy of marvel snap right now, after the token shop got released it made my collection go way faster and I had most cards. Now with the spotlights, ye sure great idea and works fine ig. But getting them as f2p is really hard and I need 4 to get either the new card 100% or a card that I want 100%. Takes so much time and I keep noticing that I mis some cards for almost every deck now a days. Getting infinite has been tough this season.

  • @2chainz81
    @2chainz81 Год назад

    I don't have spider ham luke cage or shadow king yet :/

  • @YimaRoll
    @YimaRoll Год назад

    This deck doesn’t shut down ongoing. But it is a GREAT counter for most things.

    • @2PieceandABiscuit
      @2PieceandABiscuit Год назад

      Well yeah because shadow can't effect ongoing because the extra power say from knull happens after the shadow king effect happens

  • @joselocombi6127
    @joselocombi6127 Год назад +1

    As a fan of sera type deck I fear the coming of mobious mobious 😢

    • @drsmoothmoves
      @drsmoothmoves Год назад +1

      Isn't turn 5 Wave just eating your lunch right now? MMM in your deck will at least let you play some cards turn 6

  • @legacygaminginc.
    @legacygaminginc. Год назад

    How comes his gameplay is so bright and contrasty?

  • @northabbot7116
    @northabbot7116 Год назад

    what about slotting alioth?

    • @DietersYT
      @DietersYT Год назад +2

      Somewhat defeats the purpose of the typical T6 explosion Sera allows, but could work as a surprise card

  • @pricey4184
    @pricey4184 Год назад

    Bruh that’s so wierd I just pulled hit monkey and made a deck like this

  • @thegentleman4550
    @thegentleman4550 Год назад

    Damn sensi you folded those ops up like an old wallet

  • @remyblas
    @remyblas Год назад

    Ok, if everyone is gonna start playing Sera now then I’ll play Doom Wave thank you very much.

  • @baronb5103
    @baronb5103 Год назад

    Shadow king doesn't reset your own angela??

    • @IvoHarrisIII
      @IvoHarrisIII Год назад +1

      It does but he had Luke Cage in play

  • @franciscojavierlavallesand205
    @franciscojavierlavallesand205 Год назад

    Is he free to play? Or does he dump money into it?

  • @MetallicBlue-u2t
    @MetallicBlue-u2t Год назад

    I wish I get Cozy’s paid actors to play against me

  • @JLedSnap
    @JLedSnap Год назад +5

    Fun deck but auto-lose to Tribunal and Ive seen a bunch of Tribunal today.

    • @young3128
      @young3128 Год назад +1

      Swap in enchantress, echo or rogue

    • @JLedSnap
      @JLedSnap Год назад

      ​@@young3128Invisible woman protects from Enchantress and Rogue, it's gotta be play Echo late once they've committed to their Invisible Woman lane

    • @tylerscott8079
      @tylerscott8079 Год назад

      @@JLedSnapEnchantress hits the Invisible Woman who can be hiding a modok

    • @JLedSnap
      @JLedSnap Год назад

      @@tylerscott8079 They play Magik so they can Iron Man on 5, Onslaught on 6, Living Tribunal on 7 all behind Invisible Woman

  • @Maarsh_all
    @Maarsh_all Год назад

    I've got infinite ticket with this deck in less than 20 min with 2 guys who leaved turn 1 after losing 8 cubes 😂

  • @faisal-ahmad
    @faisal-ahmad Год назад

    i like this deck, but I lose by wave at 5-6 turn