Ugh the heart tug seeing that AA MD80 ❤️ amazing report my friend! I love flying and sharing my adventures with the world. Thank you for doing the same thing :)
The rude ground staff upon arrival at LGA and JFK is like a comical welcome to NYC. If you're arriving, it sobers you up to what you're about to experience outside. For connecting pax it is rightly questionable.
Connecting in LGA is quite an experience. Wonder what happens if someone is disabled and can't do all of the stairs .Guess you get to ride on one of those complimentary carts to take you between gates. Looking forward to flying out of Roanoke in March. We live about 100 miles west of Roanoke. We usually fly out of Charlotte by decided not to drive so far. We will connect on to Charlotte then fly on to La s Vegas. You are so correct, Roanoke is a very nice small airport.
PHX Aviation & Travels They could make the experience quite a bit less bad if they’d ditch that 110 degree boarding tube. It’s too bad bus gates tend to be a nasty experience in the US. Only other place I can think of where it’s commonplace is the notorious gate 35X at DCA. Meanwhile my experiences at CUN were totally fine. Nice gate areas, nice busses, and they tend to board using both forward and rear doors.
Great video Jacob, love your trip reports and hotel reviews! That transfer at LGA really made me laugh, so poor. Let’s hope the new terminal opens soon! Lovely views of NYC during landing and take off! Regards, Brendan
Well Jake Congratulations you have just become the first ever "First Amendment Auditor in Aviation". Next time tell them to read the Constitution of the United States. Or ask them to watch RUclips of all the AV Geeks out there. Illegal, tell them to go back to school.
Man, you sure got the stereotypical LGA experience. Disorganized layout, gates that involve going down fire escapes and dark alleys, boarding agents with sticks up their asses, and a 10 minute-long bus ride if you’re flying on the regionals. And that FA on the plane? No comment. At least you got to end your trip positively at a great field and facility like ROA.
Wow that new concourse at LGA was really nice. My first trip to NYC happened this past spring and we flew in and out of LGA. I saw the construction but both time we were in Concourse D. Huge improvement. Luckily for us we landed late and when we took off to come home, it was mid afternoon and the airport was oddly quiet and slow. Not near as busy as when you were there.
Ugh, the whole bus thing reminds me of my transfer via DCA coming back from SAV a few years ago. DCA is an airport that'll be too soon if I ever see again.
By telling you it was illegal to film during flight, she was "operating under false color" of law. It's the basis for a lawsuit against a police officer for him to compel you to submit to a unlawful order. I'm sure it has not yet been tried against air crew, but she set herself up for a lawsuit by invoking false claims of law.
flight attendants have the authority to direct passengers to comply with instructions on an airfraft filed under IFR rules or on part 121 flights yeah it sucks but not illegal as he was on board the aircraft they are authorized to dirct aboard
@@Newberntrains Then that's the authority she should cite. Since she is effectively a law enforcement officer in flight it's important for them to cite the correct roots of their authority. By making law up as the root of her authority, she is operating under false color which is a crime in itself.
@@Newberntrains "flight attendants have the authority to direct passengers to comply with instructions on an airfraft " Relating to safety. They can not, for instance, use that authority to make you strip. And it doesn't give FAs any authority to misrepresent the law.
I love that they’re keeping some Embrader 140-45 in the old livery. I assume it’s because they’re going to be retired and they don’t want to bother repainting, but it’s nice to see for now.
jr132 It’s actually just the 140s. They were in storage for a couple years, but AA/Envoy put them back in service as their contract with Air Wisconsin was winding down. As they go through heavy checks they’re being repainted in the new livery.
The Elevator Channel Thanks for the info. I noticed that there was some of those Wisconsin Crj-200s that came from American now flying under United. Too bad to see that livery go it feels like it’s been around forever. Maybe they’ll keep one in it like American did with their 737 but I doubt it.
Anyone else find that STL take off roll a little long? It's still within the 35 second average..just seems long for a small aircraft. Also, the FA is wrong about it being "illegal" but it is *technically* against their policy to either film or take still photographs on the aircraft. It's just that no one enforces it. 'Cept that lady. 👎🏻
Not illegal and only against policy to film crew members/passengers without their permission. The airlines allow and even encourage you take photos out the window. Unfortunately with power hungry individuals like this FA they could call the captain and say you are an "uncooperative passenger" and have police meet the flight upon landing.
Alex Lopez Yes and no. It was officially an American hub until 2009. And it still carried significant connecting traffic up until 2003. We were an AA hub, but it was death by a thousand cuts over 8 years until officially being de-hubbed.
Just returned from a 16 day trip to Delaware with most but not all nights in a HI; never had one this dated; I generally have two issues with most all hotel rooms - (1) Very insufficient lighting and (2) inadequate locations of electrical outlets for our modern day electronic gizmos; they should be sufficiently distributed at desktop level and at bedside. This hotel seemed to be lacking on the electrical outlets necessitating and extension which I always carry with me. I always had connecting flights at STL and never had to stay overnight there.
I think your the 2nd person to have been asked to stop filming. I've seen it happen to someone else too a few years ago on YT. Some people just are very rude and cold.
New to your channel. I travel a lot for work so I’m glad to find you! What equipment do you use to film, and program to edit? And...what the crap about the FA asking you to stop filming and that it is “illegal”? That’s so not true. I’ve discovered that there are quite a few FA out there that make stuff up all the time. In general, however, I have had great FA’s over the years. But I do fly mainly on another airline.
When I go to Roanoke I may have to connect through Laguardia. I hope I don't get that flight attendant. I'll even go out of my way to fly Delta and connect through Atlanta if I have to:) Also a guy like me who is really fond of Atlanta I would definintely take a long layover at my favorite airport. Atlanta is also out of the way but I'll connect through Philidelphia or Dulles.
Your unfortunate interaction with the FA reminds me sadly of the 'bad old days' when that electronics ban was in effect. I've had two experiences similar to yours--MD-80 pushback at IAH,just about as we were taxiing and on final approach to DEN(or is it DIA?),the AA MD-80 was making a cool hard left to the runway when the FA told me to stop filming--just before touchdown,I resumed my action,my adrenaline running,fearing that a passenger would tattle on me--your ground experience at LGA was ridiculous--and to think this is an everyday thing for passengers--at least you had good weather,save for the heat.
Here's American Airlines film policy: Use of still and video cameras, film or digital, is permitted only for recording personal events. Photography or video recording of airline personnel, equipment, or procedures is strictly prohibited. AA’s ban on photography will now extend to filming employees at/in “any airline area” including ticket counters, gates, cargo, baggage, (and of course on-board)
" including ticket counters, gates, " Which are often not owned by the airlines themselves (not always, but in a lot of cases - ESPECIALLY at airports with terminal space shared by multiple airlines) - which would, to anyone privy to this fact, enable a lot of silly interactions at an airport terminal PARTICULARLY if you aren't on the flight of a crewmember bitching you out is on, or if you are traveling on ANOTHER airline that shares the terminal space with American.
I love flight attendants always thinking they have the right to ask you to stop filming (yes they probably do but still). It’s the 21st century get over yourself, almost your every move is getting filmed without consent.
very cool trip report it reconfirms why ive never flown on american except only once lol i wouldnt fly em if it was $1.00 to get a RT ticket but not much options when flying into the small towns ive never had any good customer service in the NYC area LGA or EWR was treated very rude i always think to myself" im sorry your wife/husband left you for the jehovas witness that came to the door last weekend"
Yeah I had a flight attendant like that on a Horizon Air flight. Telling me I shouldn’t be filming the plane, like I’m some sort of terrorist or something.
Yeah, that FA is full of shit. You should have asked her to open 14 CFR Part 121 and show you where it says it's illegal for you to film. Hint: it doesn't. If it were me I'd be super vindictive and call the airline, tell them what flight I was on and file a complaint about her. But you don't seem like the type of guy to hold grudges.
I just hope the multi-billion dollar rebuild is going to be worth it. So far it looks promising with the new terminal. But it's only going to be a major headache for a few more years.
While your LGA experience unfortunately is typical "LaGarbage", it's extremely disheartening to hear you had a power hungry FA on the second flight, considering there is absolutely no rules/laws about filming out the window. Heck, the flight crew do it all the time as well and the airlines hold promotions on social media where they WANT you to take pictures and share it with them. I hope you reported her because she has no business in a customer service role.
Having previously worked in Roanoke the LGA-ROA flight is being "subsidized" by the ROA authority in a small way. Probably explains why you had to go up to LGA for your saver reward. Also liked the approach to Rwy 24 in Roanoke.
poor guy on a ERJ TWA had widebodies and real airplanes to NYC why a Spanish announcement your in the USA . the lessen learned next time fly somebody other than AA
David Harris I honestly love the ERJs, at least when I have a seat on the single side. It was a very well designed aircraft for its size. Passenger experience-at least in my opinion-beats even the larger CRJ7/900.
Ugh the heart tug seeing that AA MD80 ❤️ amazing report my friend! I love flying and sharing my adventures with the world. Thank you for doing the same thing :)
you are a subscriber to lots of aviation channels just like me even though hes the elevator channel also american airlines is trash
Yup, now they are retired, how sad.
What a mess at LGA. More time on the shuttle bus than the plane. Those connecting flights are an adventure, especially if there is more than one.
I can understand now why my friend who works in the airline industry calls LGA "LaGarbage"
I like EWR, that's why I fly into Newark if I plan on coming in to the city. Just take the PATH across the Hudson and into WTC. Easy.
Amtrak Traveler911 the PATH doesn’t go to EWR.
@@afcgeo882 It's goes to Newark Penn Station. NJ transit goes to EWR and Amtrak. Sorry you are right.
JFK is better than LGA.
All the NYC airports unfortunately are a mess for one reason or another.
Boy am I glad La Guardia is getting pretty much rebuilt, that airport sucks
The rude ground staff upon arrival at LGA and JFK is like a comical welcome to NYC. If you're arriving, it sobers you up to what you're about to experience outside. For connecting pax it is rightly questionable.
Connecting in LGA is quite an experience. Wonder what happens if someone is disabled and can't do all of the stairs .Guess you get to ride on one of those complimentary carts to take you between gates. Looking forward to flying out of Roanoke in March. We live about 100 miles west of Roanoke. We usually fly out of Charlotte by decided not to drive so far. We will connect on to Charlotte then fly on to La s Vegas. You are so correct, Roanoke is a very nice small airport.
You got to board with a bus! That is so cool! So rare to see something like this in the US.
PHX Aviation & Travels They could make the experience quite a bit less bad if they’d ditch that 110 degree boarding tube. It’s too bad bus gates tend to be a nasty experience in the US. Only other place I can think of where it’s commonplace is the notorious gate 35X at DCA. Meanwhile my experiences at CUN were totally fine. Nice gate areas, nice busses, and they tend to board using both forward and rear doors.
Great video Jacob, love your trip reports and hotel reviews! That transfer at LGA really made me laugh, so poor. Let’s hope the new terminal opens soon!
Lovely views of NYC during landing and take off!
Regards,
Brendan
Hey, ROA, my hometown. It is beautiful as ever.
That approach to ROA is gorgeous! Can't go wrong with the Virginia coast. - Red
Well Jake Congratulations you have just become the first ever "First Amendment Auditor in Aviation". Next time tell them to read the Constitution of the United States. Or ask them to watch RUclips of all the AV Geeks out there. Illegal, tell them to go back to school.
You need to visit Lake Tahoe. The approach into the airport is so beautiful alone. Then you go up into the mountains and it’s so nice
Man, you sure got the stereotypical LGA experience. Disorganized layout, gates that involve going down fire escapes and dark alleys, boarding agents with sticks up their asses, and a 10 minute-long bus ride if you’re flying on the regionals. And that FA on the plane? No comment. At least you got to end your trip positively at a great field and facility like ROA.
Did you get put in "Time Out" when she put ya in that room.😂😂
Luxurious accommodations at the hotel Reams! 😂😆
Wow that new concourse at LGA was really nice. My first trip to NYC happened this past spring and we flew in and out of LGA. I saw the construction but both time we were in Concourse D. Huge improvement. Luckily for us we landed late and when we took off to come home, it was mid afternoon and the airport was oddly quiet and slow. Not near as busy as when you were there.
Nice. I grew up in Roanoke. Thumbs up!
Yo, It’s time to use dat ERJ-140 again after 5-4 years, In American eagle old paint scheme
Ugh, the whole bus thing reminds me of my transfer via DCA coming back from SAV a few years ago. DCA is an airport that'll be too soon if I ever see again.
DCA has a beautiful terminal, but the layout is terrible. Besides LGA, it’s the most tedious to navigate through.
Damn twice that flight attendant told you to stop filming. That is total BS there.
From the looks of it you used be able to smoke in that terminal at LGA. The times sure have changed. No smoking beyond this point sign at 24:19.
Also I knew from the title of the video you were going to see Andrew haha
By telling you it was illegal to film during flight, she was "operating under false color" of law. It's the basis for a lawsuit against a police officer for him to compel you to submit to a unlawful order. I'm sure it has not yet been tried against air crew, but she set herself up for a lawsuit by invoking false claims of law.
flight attendants have the authority to direct passengers to comply with instructions on an airfraft filed under IFR rules or on part 121 flights yeah it sucks but not illegal as he was on board the aircraft they are authorized to dirct aboard
@@Newberntrains Then that's the authority she should cite. Since she is effectively a law enforcement officer in flight it's important for them to cite the correct roots of their authority. By making law up as the root of her authority, she is operating under false color which is a crime in itself.
@@Newberntrains "flight attendants have the authority to direct passengers to comply with instructions on an airfraft "
Relating to safety. They can not, for instance, use that authority to make you strip.
And it doesn't give FAs any authority to misrepresent the law.
Had one of my worst flying experiences with American Airlines.
I love that they’re keeping some Embrader 140-45 in the old livery. I assume it’s because they’re going to be retired and they don’t want to bother repainting, but it’s nice to see for now.
jr132 It’s actually just the 140s. They were in storage for a couple years, but AA/Envoy put them back in service as their contract with Air Wisconsin was winding down. As they go through heavy checks they’re being repainted in the new livery.
The Elevator Channel Thanks for the info. I noticed that there was some of those Wisconsin Crj-200s that came from American now flying under United. Too bad to see that livery go it feels like it’s been around forever. Maybe they’ll keep one in it like American did with their 737 but I doubt it.
Anyone else find that STL take off roll a little long? It's still within the 35 second average..just seems long for a small aircraft.
Also, the FA is wrong about it being "illegal" but it is *technically* against their policy to either film or take still photographs on the aircraft. It's just that no one enforces it. 'Cept that lady. 👎🏻
janel egan STL-LGA seems like a pretty long hop for a -140. I’d guess we were close to the max takeoff weight thanks to fuel
Not illegal and only against policy to film crew members/passengers without their permission. The airlines allow and even encourage you take photos out the window. Unfortunately with power hungry individuals like this FA they could call the captain and say you are an "uncooperative passenger" and have police meet the flight upon landing.
AA is not like they use to be. A flew on AA for 52 years since I was 2, I left and went to Delta much happier,
Hi Jacob this is wholm2096 channel I like the hotel rooms tours i hope you have a great time and safe trip sincerely William Holm
I've heard so many stories regarding LGA and their issues.
laguardias renovating right now hate american airlines terminal there delta concourse is nicer
@@michaelsharp3615 I did see that. I hope it's an improvement.
They’re building basically a whole new airport in the same place as the existing one, without any loss of function. Think about that...
On a clear day LGA is fine. One low cloud over the airport and its game over. LoL!
American Airlines never ran a hub at STL. TWA did, when American Ailines and TWA merged in the early 2000s, American shut the operation down.
Alex Lopez Yes and no. It was officially an American hub until 2009. And it still carried significant connecting traffic up until 2003. We were an AA hub, but it was death by a thousand cuts over 8 years until officially being de-hubbed.
Just returned from a 16 day trip to Delaware with most but not all nights in a HI; never had one this dated; I generally have two issues with most all hotel rooms - (1) Very insufficient lighting and (2) inadequate locations of electrical outlets for our modern day electronic gizmos; they should be sufficiently distributed at desktop level and at bedside. This hotel seemed to be lacking on the electrical outlets necessitating and extension which I always carry with me.
I always had connecting flights at STL and never had to stay overnight there.
Hope u got a great trip
Good job keep up the awesome videos yournext trip report should be from STL to MCO.
I think your the 2nd person to have been asked to stop filming. I've seen it happen to someone else too a few years ago on YT. Some people just are very rude and cold.
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New to your channel. I travel a lot for work so I’m glad to find you! What equipment do you use to film, and program to edit? And...what the crap about the FA asking you to stop filming and that it is “illegal”? That’s so not true. I’ve discovered that there are quite a few FA out there that make stuff up all the time. In general, however, I have had great FA’s over the years. But I do fly mainly on another airline.
When I go to Roanoke I may have to connect through Laguardia. I hope I don't get that flight attendant. I'll even go out of my way to fly Delta and connect through Atlanta if I have to:) Also a guy like me who is really fond of Atlanta I would definintely take a long layover at my favorite airport. Atlanta is also out of the way but I'll connect through Philidelphia or Dulles.
love your videos
Nice one!
“Your safety is important to us.” So why did you lock everyone in a dangerously hot tube that lacked ventilation?
That was an experience to say the least
SO COOL!!
I mean you did fly American, what did you expect in terms of service?
american airlines is trash
Man, LGA is really not designed for connecting passengers! And I would definitely make a report about that FA...
He’s got a very nice house!
united airlines flies the crj 550 no gate checking on that plane
I think there's literally only like one in service right now haha
Have you Herd Of the The Midwest CWS and PHX Travel
Why would anyone be afraid of a camera now? The no electronic rule has been gone for like 5 years
Your unfortunate interaction with the FA reminds me sadly of the 'bad old days' when that electronics ban was in effect. I've had two experiences similar to yours--MD-80 pushback at IAH,just about as we were taxiing and on final approach to DEN(or is it DIA?),the AA MD-80 was making a cool hard left to the runway when the FA told me to stop filming--just before touchdown,I resumed my action,my adrenaline running,fearing that a passenger would tattle on me--your ground experience at LGA was ridiculous--and to think this is an everyday thing for passengers--at least you had good weather,save for the heat.
Jason Moors I swear... if I didn’t have it on video, no one would believe that AA locked me in a basement by myself at LGA 😂
Wow!
I MISS SEEING THE AA MD-80 :(
rip American Airlines old logo
27:31 Damn American flight attendant She should had never though you to stop filming!
Here's American Airlines film policy: Use of still and video cameras, film or digital, is permitted only for recording personal events. Photography or video recording of airline personnel, equipment, or procedures is strictly prohibited. AA’s ban on photography will now extend to filming employees at/in “any airline area” including ticket counters, gates, cargo, baggage, (and of course on-board)
" including ticket counters, gates, "
Which are often not owned by the airlines themselves (not always, but in a lot of cases - ESPECIALLY at airports with terminal space shared by multiple airlines) - which would, to anyone privy to this fact, enable a lot of silly interactions at an airport terminal PARTICULARLY if you aren't on the flight of a crewmember bitching you out is on, or if you are traveling on ANOTHER airline that shares the terminal space with American.
I love flight attendants always thinking they have the right to ask you to stop filming (yes they probably do but still). It’s the 21st century get over yourself, almost your every move is getting filmed without consent.
16:41 But hey at least the hydraulic pump isn’t like the original video with the old paint scheme
very cool trip report it reconfirms why ive never flown on american except only once lol i wouldnt fly em if it was $1.00 to get a RT ticket but not much options when flying into the small towns
ive never had any good customer service in the NYC area LGA or EWR was treated very rude i always think to myself" im sorry your wife/husband left you for the jehovas witness that came to the door last weekend"
Hi Jacob
Yeah I had a flight attendant like that on a Horizon Air flight. Telling me I shouldn’t be filming the plane, like I’m some sort of terrorist or something.
fly to omaha nebraska sometime please
second UA plane might be a load relief.
Great trip report. Would prefer if it is slightly shorter. I’m pretty sure most people won’t sit through an 36 min trip report. Anyways, good video.
Luv the Roanoke trip how long did u stay and did u stay at his house or a hotel
Does Southwest Airlines still have the hub in KSTL?
You could have connected thru Charlotte or Philadelphia. Both are much better than LaGuardia.
When was this filmed? Noticed an AA md80 in the background.
jr132 Back in June
New York Laguardia is renovating the airport fly southwest into laguardia new and nice concourse or delta crammed still but nicer
Yeah, that FA is full of shit. You should have asked her to open 14 CFR Part 121 and show you where it says it's illegal for you to film. Hint: it doesn't. If it were me I'd be super vindictive and call the airline, tell them what flight I was on and file a complaint about her. But you don't seem like the type of guy to hold grudges.
You couldn't pay me to get on that second plane
We start off with the new scheme and then for the 2nd we start off with the old
That seat looked small, how tall are you?
do u know who qfs aviation is
LGA is a weird airport.
I just hope the multi-billion dollar rebuild is going to be worth it. So far it looks promising with the new terminal. But it's only going to be a major headache for a few more years.
Nifty
While your LGA experience unfortunately is typical "LaGarbage", it's extremely disheartening to hear you had a power hungry FA on the second flight, considering there is absolutely no rules/laws about filming out the window. Heck, the flight crew do it all the time as well and the airlines hold promotions on social media where they WANT you to take pictures and share it with them. I hope you reported her because she has no business in a customer service role.
LGA sucks. Been through there once, I’ll never do it again.
Same. Would rather fly into JFK than that POS.
21:20 why laguardia is third world country
Should of taken the STL-CLT-ROA route. Takes under 4 hours. For under 300 bucks round trip. Come on bro. LaGuardia? Seriously???????????
This was the only sAAver route with points unfortunately. I guess AA is desperate to fill up their flights to LGA.
Having previously worked in Roanoke the LGA-ROA flight is being "subsidized" by the ROA authority in a small way. Probably explains why you had to go up to LGA for your saver reward. Also liked the approach to Rwy 24 in Roanoke.
do u have an instagram
can this spanish safety demo be explained? especially on an American Eagle flight lol
Most of the time I fly out of EWR, sometimes PHL - remind me not to fly out of LGA, let alone with this airline.
poor guy on a ERJ TWA had widebodies and real airplanes to NYC why a Spanish announcement your in the USA . the lessen learned next time fly somebody other than AA
David Harris I honestly love the ERJs, at least when I have a seat on the single side. It was a very well designed aircraft for its size. Passenger experience-at least in my opinion-beats even the larger CRJ7/900.