Where will the Next Dark Worlds Be? - Deltarune Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 14 апр 2023
  • Before the next few chapter's of Deltarune come out, I wanted to discuss the possible locations of the next Dark Worlds. If you have any Deltarune theories you'd like me to look into please leave them in the comments.
    Here are the two Deltarune Theories I mentioned:
    InsanelyADD - The KNIGHT PAPYRUS THEORY | Deltarune Theory and Speedpaint
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    Ossy Flawol - DELTARUNE - Chess Theory | ULTIMATE Edition
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    Deltarune and all music belongs to Toby Fox
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  • @ion4393
    @ion4393 Год назад +39

    I believe Hometown will turn into a huge dark world at some point with us making our way to seal the grand fountain in Castle Town (or something along the lines).

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад +9

      That's a very popular theory, and for a very good reason. I should have mentioned it.

    • @MadotsukiGaming
      @MadotsukiGaming Год назад +4

      And then you go into the bunker, now that'd be cool.

    • @rockincradilyyyy8489
      @rockincradilyyyy8489 Год назад +3

      I feel like we won’t seal the castle town dark fountain
      Because there’s got to be balance between light and dark
      (Which brings the question… if too much dark brings the roaring… what happens if there’s too much light?)

    • @mrblakeboy1420
      @mrblakeboy1420 Год назад

      i think the final dark world will be layered dark, a dark world in castle town

    • @TheTrueXaver
      @TheTrueXaver 11 месяцев назад

      yeah that'd make sense as to why ralsei wants to stop berdly from making a dark world at the end of chapter 2, since they're already IN one. which would result in like dark-fountain-ception

  • @apersonwhoexists3383
    @apersonwhoexists3383 Год назад +6

    6:40
    I dont think there are premade dark fountains anywhere in Deltarune, the way Ralsei makes it seem at the end of Chapter 2, only 2 dark fountains can exist at once, the 3rd one causing the roaring. Ralsei says Berdley will cause the roaring if he opens a dark fountain in the cyber world, so it could also be opening a dark fountain IN a dark world that brings the roaring, but I think it's just 3 dark fountains being open at once.

  • @randomname1201
    @randomname1201 Год назад +11

    I'm just adding something to Chapter four being the church: You can find concrete evidence that chapter two is a Friday because if you find Alphys by the police station at the end of Ch.2, she'd mention that it's not school the next day, which was something I originally found interesting before I knew about the chess theory and the bishop, because it would mean that in Chapter five, we'd probably have to either answer to our actions in snowgrave route or confront a Berdly who's seen what we've done

  • @redheaddjg
    @redheaddjg Год назад +25

    Kind of funny how you stated that one of the candidates for chapter 4's dark world being the Holiday house cause that was my original theory. I originally thought that Noelle's blog posts were *secretly* chapter 4 teasers and that they contained the locations and themes of chapter 4's dark world like the ice palace for example.
    I then switched over to it taking place in the church due to a Spamton line somewhat hinting at that and the fact that religion is a strong theme in Deltarune.

    • @benitovalentin-iv8yx
      @benitovalentin-iv8yx Год назад +1

      It makes sense as Toby has a knight, King, Queen. Those three are part of a chess board. A bishop is related to religion

  • @deenaavers6946
    @deenaavers6946 10 месяцев назад +2

    6:24 wow! i’ve never seen someone else have this same theory as me. i always thought the vessel would come back and maybe we could play as the vessel, and kris could have their body back, as a happy ending or sorts to flip around the message “your choices don’t matter” that is being pushed suspiciously a lot

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo4481 Год назад +8

    3:44
    Kris:
    - Stabs ground to create Dark Fountain
    - Goes alone somewhere in the previous night
    - Slashes tires and opens the door to let other lighters fall into Dark World
    - Turns on TV to make sure the Tv characters participate in their plans
    - Is confirmed to posses determination as a Lightner and unclear powers thanks to the soul.
    Community: ,,BuT WhAtOfPaPyrUs Is tHe KnIghT cUz clOsEt TaLL"
    Character placement doesn't matter 1 bit as in ch1 we enter the closet whit Susie and end up in the next room at the end of the chapter.

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад

      At the time of making this video I was very against Kris being the Knight, but recently I believe it makes a lot more sense given the information we have, I wish the community was not so against the idea as the story could take it in very interesting directions.

    • @salemmarz3809
      @salemmarz3809 Год назад +5

      if kris is the knight, then there must be multiple because queen and the spade king do not recognize kris as the knight
      also basically anyone can be a knight, berdly almost opened a dark fountain, noelle could’ve, and kris has, so why not have multiple knights

    • @salemmarz3809
      @salemmarz3809 Год назад

      i personally think asgore is the most likely knight but idk

    • @salemmarz3809
      @salemmarz3809 Год назад

      @@calamarichaos i hate to be a party pooper but either
      a: there are multiple knights
      b: kris isnt a knight
      because if a isnt true, then it just isnt possible due to how spade king, queen, jevil, and i think spamton describe the knight

    • @auramaster2068
      @auramaster2068 Год назад

      @@salemmarz3809 Those are both the same answer though, saying Kris is one of multiple knights is the same as saying Kris isn't the Knight since they still wouldn't be the Knight who opened the first two fountains.
      And while darkners know of the knight and their actions, they likely never met the knight and would be unable to identify them. Queen likely never met the knight, as she stated she was guessing based off of their actions. If Queen never met the knight, the case is likely the same for Spade King and every other darkner. If a darkner did know what the Knight looked like, then they would have warned everybody, especially Queen who now knows that the knight could end the world through the roaring.

  • @Randomstuffthatiwanttodo5946
    @Randomstuffthatiwanttodo5946 11 месяцев назад +2

    8:14 not to mention it has locked, double doors, which are probably the most dark world likely things in this game

  • @probablyjustsnails
    @probablyjustsnails Год назад +8

    Aaaa I just watched your other deltarune theory video and I’m super impressed !! This one’s great too!! So glad there’s still room for discussion with these 2 chapters alone

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад +2

      Thank you, I'm glad you've enjoyed them! I'm also surprised there is still stuff to discuss with these 2 chapters.

  • @AselectirYT
    @AselectirYT Год назад +8

    Look dude I know this has a 99.999% of being not real but didn’t you see at the LAST FRAME when the darkness is about to cover the entire screen, kris holds up the soul… but we don’t see it entering Kris’s body… now I know this might be crazy but when you see the presentation in queens mansion about the dark fountain, it could kinda be called a tornado, so maybe… Kris didn’t put the soul back and it got sucked into the dark world?

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад +2

      I really like this idea! While I don't think it's true for Chapter 3 based of a lot of what we have been seen, I could see this happening in a future chapter. Maybe when we inevitably loose control of Kris.

  • @kylonbell123
    @kylonbell123 Год назад +8

    The fact Asriel phone is broken and no body but Kris can contact him is suspicious especially when you consider how Kris is researching magic js man may not be coming home from college

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад +4

      Asriel is one of the biggest mysteries in Deltarune, I really hope we get more information about him in future chapters.

  • @mrblakeboy1420
    @mrblakeboy1420 Год назад +2

    the mayor is named cupid. she’s rudy’s wife, rudy is short for rudolph, in the original rudolph movie rudolph has a crush on cupid. also, she signs her name as c once

  • @birdflox1337
    @birdflox1337 Год назад +3

    If the world of Deltarune still has W.D. Gaster alive and well, but Undertale Gaster is shattered across time and space, could Deltarune have one and a half Gasters?

  • @boyboilNEO9055
    @boyboilNEO9055 8 месяцев назад

    I think every dark world is based on escapism and entertainment. Chapter 3: tv game shows and stuff, chapter 4: books and high fantasy, chapter 5: music? if it’s the hospital since the piano, chapter 6: shot in the dark but maybe dnd with papyrus or video games (probably without papyrus), chapter 7: the festival

  • @Cool_Kid95
    @Cool_Kid95 Год назад +2

    I predict the house, the church, Asgore's Flower Shop, and ICE-E's Pizza

  • @youtubebobguy
    @youtubebobguy Год назад +3

    I think that we may get a Dark World in The Mayor's office. With maybe one of the mayor's objects as the main antagonist.

    • @billiamsquid
      @billiamsquid Год назад +1

      True but there's very little objects or creative potential for Darkners

  • @andrewdeluca7352
    @andrewdeluca7352 11 месяцев назад +2

    1:15-1:26 I would like to point something out that nobody has mentioned. Alphys points out that that there is no school on the day of chapter three. Kris, Susie, and the rest of their class seem to be middle schoolers or high schoolers so odds are they know what a weekeend is. Why would Alphys point out that there is no school on a weekend day? Becuase chapter three is set on a Wednesday. Chapter 1 was a monday, chapter 2 was a tuesday, and chapter three will be a wendsday where school is cancelled for some reason. You see, while church is normally held on Sunday, some people go to church on Wednesday. This lines up with Rudy mentioning going to church the following day, why there is no school, and why the dark world of chapter 4 would be set in the church.

    • @andrewdeluca7352
      @andrewdeluca7352 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the heart. I'm glad you noticed this. Hopefully you can bring it up in a future video.

  • @tylermays8066
    @tylermays8066 Год назад +3

    I think another dark world for Paps would be sans store

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад

      That would be a good place for a Dark World! I didn't even think about that. I think it's unlikely but not impossible.

  • @churro1201
    @churro1201 11 месяцев назад +1

    I would like to bring up an alternative to chapter 4's Dark Fountain.
    I believe it's possible Chapter 4 won't have a Dark Fountain since
    1. All leaked Chapter 4 images are in Hometown and Castle Town, as well as 2 new tracks of Hometown and Castle Town at Day, which implies Chapter 3 will take up all of Night and Chapter 4 will start in day.
    2. Using 1. as evidence, it seems like Chapter 3 will be an all Dark world Chapter, so why not follow it up by an Light world chapter.
    3. The Festival is supposed to be starting tomorrow, ut seems like The Festival will be a really important light world location and a long segment, and i doubt Toby wouldn't let us see most of it because a dark fountain.
    (Also Mettaton's and Onionsan's diolauge in Chapter 2 seem to indicate some sort of quest starting, which might indicate maybe more light world stuff)
    I know sounds like it wouldn't work too well gameplay wise so i'll also try to explain how i believe it will work in a gameplay situation. (speculation)
    >Story : As you mentioned Noelle is a very important character, and future chapters will definitely explore her character more, and i believ The Festival is a perfect place to continue Noelle's character, as it's run by The Mayor, who is likely Noelle's Mom, it would be a pretty good place for us to meet Noelle's mom and see more of Noelle's character.
    >Battles : I believe it could take place in The Light World in a more Undertale like system, or maybe we explore more Castle Town and Battles happen ðere? alternitively, no/minimal battles could happen.
    >Secret Boss : ShadowCrystal's probably would happen in Castle town, but to be more speculitive, we know ShadowCrystals exist in Light worlds as Glass and armor and Weapons also exist (shown by Kris's weapon changing to different pencils depending on what you have), maybe a Secret Boss could be a lightner, and ðat lightner will give us ðe special Armor/Weapon and some Glass, as whoever made Jevil and Spamton could very well exist in The Light World. Definitely a stretch but i believe it's possible.
    >Party Members : Could be Noelle again like you mentioned, however i believe it's possible someone else could be your partner, however to bring up a different option i will speculate about someone else being your partner since i believe it'd be more interesting if Noelle wasn't repeated twice
    So i will say Catti will probably show up at some point not just because it's not Noelle, but because Chapter 2 mostly centers around Noelle and her family hence why Noelle is your partner, and Chapter 3 will definitely be about Kris and ðeir family hence Toriel probably being your partner, it would make sense for Chapter 4 to be someone more Neutral, and Catti is shown to be close to Kris and Noelle, not sure how interesting Catti would be as a partner. (also considering it would be imagine how a Catti weird route would be pulled off, especially in a light world.
    >Extra Areas : I know I said it could be an all light world chapter but i believe it would also include Castle Town since The Festival is probably not enough content for a whole Chapter, but too much for a opening part before heading into a massive new dark world, So i believe it could be 1 part is Hometown, 1 part is The Festival, and 1 part is Castle Town. in a random order.
    Possibly even 1 part is a very tiny dark world, and removes one of ðe parts here, as The Knight doesn't stop existing just because you have stuff outside of Fountains (I know i mentioned Chapter 4 not having a dark fountain, but i mostly said such so i could say Chapter 4 has lots of Hometown/Castle Town content which would completely change where a Dark Fountain could take place. however based on what i said i can't say where exactly a fountain would take place, following Chess Theory it would still be The Church, but Noelle and her Family probably wouldn't be a part of ðat fountain because of The Festival)

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  11 месяцев назад +1

      I love this idea, I completely forgot about those Chapter 4 leaks

  • @Valetravelgames
    @Valetravelgames Год назад +2

    I belive we might get a dark world in Catti's house too since it is already dark on the inside

  • @AselectirYT
    @AselectirYT Год назад +4

    I also have another theory… based on the chess one
    You know the whole knight thing, right? Well… Whose the players?
    As for the 1st, simple, Us, we’re playing the game.
    The 2nd? Easy again. Gaster.
    But who are the kings and queens on both sides? I do not know, maybe some smarter people can figure that out.

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад +1

      I think figuring out who the pieces are on the opposite side of the board will be easy, as well as the pawns on our own side, but I wonder who's the King, Queen, Bishop, etc. on our side of the board?

    • @superlagbro192
      @superlagbro192 Год назад +2

      @@calamarichaos I'd assume it would be the party members. Like ralsei and Noelle are our bishops, our soul is the king, and Susie is the queen.

    • @AselectirYT
      @AselectirYT Год назад +1

      @@calamarichaos omg the video creator responded to my comment Ty

  • @salemmarz3809
    @salemmarz3809 Год назад +1

    i’d argue the bunker is another location for dess, but thats heavily based in my personal theory about dess

    • @salemmarz3809
      @salemmarz3809 Год назад +1

      and i dont think the susie kris thing is entirely plausible due to susie interfering with player decisions (deciding to go with ralsei instead of kris without giving the player a choice to, saying something along the lines of ‘why does kris always get to decide?’)

    • @salemmarz3809
      @salemmarz3809 Год назад +1

      and imo kris creating a dark world is a call for either help or attention (wanting to PROVE to undyne that they truly do exist)

  • @mcgipple
    @mcgipple Год назад +1

    Cover the woody theory

  • @rawquikh0ney710
    @rawquikh0ney710 8 месяцев назад

    Makes me wonder about the knight thing and making fountains i wonder if its like adventure time where magic is fueled by if you think the world is a game and dreaming or imagination and by madness and sadness. Makes me wonder if its similar with the fountains and stuff but there could be a side effect when they use it more maybe

  • @N0TAN1M3
    @N0TAN1M3 Год назад +2

    I'm quite surprised

  • @Valetravelgames
    @Valetravelgames Год назад

    10:15 Cat Petterz foreshadowing?

  • @evoplayz4567
    @evoplayz4567 Год назад +1

    Ch3 is obviously the tv

  • @HallowLord
    @HallowLord Год назад +1

    Makes a lot of sense.
    I've always thought about the Church being Chapter 7 because there's been many religious hints and I thought that it made sense to be the final chapter. It's either the Church or the Bunker for me.

    • @theconversationalelitist6423
      @theconversationalelitist6423 Год назад

      I always thought it was gonna be the bunker or the entire town in some roaring type of thing

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад

      I could see the Church being Chapter 7. I think it's easy to pinpoint where a Dark World will be, but very difficult to say which chapter it will be in.

    • @HallowLord
      @HallowLord Год назад

      @@theconversationalelitist6423 yeah I've always had that idea and I've had the idea of the Light World and Dark World combining.
      We could probably see something like that at the ending. You'd get to talk to Lightners and Darkners by finding them like how the two current chapters play out. If they don't combine for an ending, I could see obviously returning to the Castle Town and talking to all Darkners there instead.
      If I had to guess, Lightners and Darkners will still have to live separately but I think they will all meet in Chapter 7

    • @RmationYT
      @RmationYT Год назад

      Same!!!

  • @JeffTheBagel
    @JeffTheBagel 9 месяцев назад

    Rouxls Kaard is the knight there is so much evidence against him

  • @jevil5316
    @jevil5316 Год назад

    Myth: I think the priest is that turtle in undertale at the water fall, that shop keeper? Yeah that might be him

    • @birdflox1337
      @birdflox1337 Год назад

      No, that turtle is named Gerson. However, Gerson is dead in Deltarune.

  • @gonerdenji
    @gonerdenji Год назад +1

    I just want to mention that Alphys mentions that there will be no school in one of her dialogues and Rudy tells Noelle that he's planning on going to church TOMORROW in the epilogue of chapter 2

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад +1

      I forgot about Rudy's dialogue, maybe we will get a Light world section in Chapter 3 where we can see him.

    • @rockincradilyyyy8489
      @rockincradilyyyy8489 Год назад +1

      @madsmudge
      I think it’s a distinct possibility for chapters 3 and 4 being the same day
      Evidence 1: Rudy says he might be able to go to church *tomorrow* implying church takes place on Saturday, which is also when chapter 3 takes place
      Evidence 2: in the 2022 status update Hometown Day’s subtitle is “after the long night, the sun shines brightly” and the names of all those pictures is Ch4, meaning they are all from chapter 4,
      But hey that just a theory, A GAME- *gets assassinated*

  • @killouspopcorn5374
    @killouspopcorn5374 Год назад

    I think kris will have a play date with pap in ICE-ES and kris make dark fountain there

  • @LordBakon
    @LordBakon 11 месяцев назад

    Bro kris made a new fountain

  • @bingchiller21
    @bingchiller21 Год назад +1

    i got chills watching this

  • @Mago-Soul-Gaming
    @Mago-Soul-Gaming 6 месяцев назад

    What about an unused hallway in the school

  • @youtubebobguy
    @youtubebobguy Год назад

    I think Asriel might come back on Ch. 5.
    Because as u can remember Alphys said that there is no school tomorrow on a day there was school. So obviously Ch. 2 was on Friday and Ch. 3 could be Saturday. Now about Rudy's dialogue there are some places where u go to Church on Saturday. It's possible this is a place where u go to Church on Saturday AND Sunday. That also makes a possibility that in Ch. 3 Noelle will be absent while we're in the Dark World in our house and in Ch. 4 when we possibly go to Church again then we will go in a dark world in the church. Or it's possible that Toby wanted us to think Kris made a dark world in the house but they didn't. So it's possible the knight actually DID make a dark world overnight in the Church and we will go there in Ch. 3. But anyway back to my Asriel comeback theory. I think so because they said he'd be here next week right? Well next week would start in some places at Monday. So on Monday is where Asriel will return. Or if they said 7 days then u should just ignore this theory and he will be back on Ch. 7 or something.

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад

      While the idea of Asriel returning at the START of next week makes a lot of sense, II think the way the game words it implies that he will be back in one week from Chapter 1. Not a bad idea though. I could see it happening.

    • @CalvinNoire
      @CalvinNoire Год назад +2

      I'm pretty sure "Tomorrow" Is when the festival happens? Correct? That could be why it's a no school day.

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад

      That's a really good point! We'll just have to see what chapter we go back to school whenever the next chapters come out.

  • @TheGamerninja15
    @TheGamerninja15 Год назад +1

    Imagine if Chapter 6 is Asriel's University and the final boss of the chapter is a dark world version of Flowey.
    Chapter 7 will be M.T. Ebbot, the place where Undertale began. This is where the angel will reside, and in it's dying breaths, controls Kris to bring out the roaring. The fun gang manages to beat the titans with the cost of Kris sacrificing themselves to save the world. The post credits scene reveals them to be none other than Frisk. Or in another interpretation would have Kris transported to the Undertale universe and comes face to face with Frisk.

  • @zymen33
    @zymen33 Год назад

    Good thinking

  • @roast_beef
    @roast_beef Год назад +1

    Idk who tf you are but based pfp im already subbed

  • @kapitan_brl
    @kapitan_brl Год назад

    What about deltarune Good mic theory??😌

  • @jasoncharlton1615
    @jasoncharlton1615 Год назад +3

    I’m betting a twist thing will happen again where kris just wanted to be famous and be on TV XD

    • @calamarichaos
      @calamarichaos  Год назад

      That would be fun. Chapter 3 will most likely be TV themed so we might see something like that happen.

  • @user-nk2pd1oo2p
    @user-nk2pd1oo2p Год назад

    There's also a possibility that one of the chapters will take place in the school closet, I don't know how to support this theory, but it can happen for sure

  • @aleksic1234
    @aleksic1234 Год назад +1

    my personal theory is that some chapters will be in multiple dark worlds

  • @elfflix2569
    @elfflix2569 Год назад

    poorly drawn king ddd pfp gang