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Had to learn that the hard way. When I was starting out I had a Nikon d3100 and I bought a knockoff battery and it was bloated after the first time that I used it
That's bad news for sure! Throw it out!!!
same!
Same!!! Unlucky!
Oof, but hey, at least you learned from your mistakes
@@AnthonyGugliotta nope don’t throw it out. best thing to do is to bury it in a container of sand. do not throw lithium in the trash
I am working a lot on electronics and I would definitely say that buying an non OEM battery is perfectly fine as long as it is a good quality one. The battery cells are manufactured by a third party anyway and from my experience the OEM part usually uses good medium quality cells. This means although you receive a decent product there is some room for improvement. Since the manufacturers are not transparent about their suppliers you have to know from experience which are better and which are worse.
Thanks for sharing. I've had good luck with my third-party batteries. The only thing is that they don't accurately display the remaining battery life, and usually die faster in the last 30%
@@AnthonyGugliotta There is a very simple explanation to this: The percentage is only determined by the voltage. Different batteries have different voltage curves while discharging. Usually a higher quality battery maintains a higher voltage for longer. Since the energy stored is roughly the same it will be followed by a more rapid decrease in voltage and that is exactly what you are witnessing.
The important question is: Are you still able to capture the same amount of pictures?
Hi! A bit off topic, but you seem to get around the technical parts :)
Which dummy battery and powerbank do you recommend (I shoot weddings and I want to power my Canon R6 ii with dummy+powerbank combo, instead of buying 10 spare batteries)?
Thank you so much in advance❤
Never had an issue with cheaper batteries on my SONY A7 III. I definitely cheap out on them.
I have been using a Kingma NP-FW50 for about 9 months now and I can recommend them from my experience. While it does take a longer time to charge, it lasts just as long as the Sony one.
If you get well made third party batteries they are really good. Of course for casual users original batteries are better since you won't run out of battery these days since one fully charged battery last 1000 shots. The third party batteries I bought last 95% as long. Stuttering is due mostly to full buffer when I shoot birds and your cheap memory card can't keep up. Has nothing to do with battery in my years of experience.
Love your channel but many of these advice are inaccurate.
My advice, save money on the batteries, get the fastest memory card if you're always doing long bursts.
One thing you don't want to cheap out on is getting the best possible flash you can. That means the most expensive one made by the brand.
Understood thnks for the info bro keep growing
The Baxxtar LP-E6NH batteries with the Eos R are fantastic! 1400 shots and 28% still in the batteries!🤘🏼
Electrical engineer here ,can explain the reason behind that ,the knock off batteries cannot provide enough current to the camera ,it requires a lot of current to flow at a Conti rate to do those continuous burst shots which the cheap batteries struggle with ,why they do ? , Cause they don't have more number of lithium / metal sheet in them or a lower grade electrolyte that cannot just give huge amps stably 👍
Having one just for backup not so much to count on working but to have just in case is always nice
Which camera do you recommend for starters
Same experiance with a sony knock off. it went from 100 to 0 in just 3 mins and the video was shuttering. So now i spend 1.5x times as much for trying to cut a corner. Thankfully it dont destoryed and now i use for as a cell for webcam whn i plugged in.
I avoid using third party batteries in my R6, but found good third party batteries for a similar price range ($30-35 CAD) that outperformed my older LP-E6 batteries in many DSLRs. They work fine in my R6 too, but don't last as long as the LP-E6 NH do
I have 3 legit Sony NP-FW100’s and 2 “fake” ones and it’s a good setup, using the real ones first the the aftermarket ones as a backup but it rarely gets to that point
I have ravpower batteries for my Sony a7iv and they last just as long as the original Sony battery which costs like £60. Two of the ravpower batteries are £45 with a usb dual charger, absolute no brainer for me been using them for years no issues
yea I also use knockoffs on my A7R4 and they are great.. battery problems occur more on Canons xD
That's true both for two knock offs for my camera and for two knock offs for my battery powered drill. The drill doesn't spin as fast and my camera can't do burst shots well with those as with the original battery.
suggest me a good full frame mirrorless camera mid range
I was talking about taking photography as a subject with my friend now this is on my feed sooo yeah google listens to u
NOOOOO! Glad you got to see this video though! :)
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Been using Ravpower LP-6s and based on the cameras diagnostics the OEM Battery’s life depleted more than the “knock offs” with same use lol
I actually had a bad experience with a official canon battery. I got a new official battery and it lasted 10 minutes max compared to a cheaper one I got out of frustration that lasts a few hours. I think I just got a bad batch because I've has many experiences go the other way around
I always buy the Wasabi LPE 6 Batteries never had a Problem. Even if they fail i can just have twice as many for the same prime so its not really a problem
The only camera I have that's not digital take film. It's some old camera that lists for 100 dollars that I got for free from the side of the road. Just not sure if it works.
What if the Canon camera is so old there aren't batteries anymore? I have a Canon FT from the mid 79s and no camera shop can find the little weird round one that was used back then. I used that thing for 20 years and loved it. Now I have to use my brain because the light meter won't work without a battery
What did camera asked a battery?
How is your discharge?
you can just buy three of those in that price and still gets better backup than original one
For my Sony a6000 i use DuraCell batterys and from my experience, there even better than the original.
Well i wouldn't go for knock off that have 70 dollar difference but if you find like after market battery that like only 80 bucks id go for the 80 bucks
And sometimes on the flip side, they are generic labeled OEM batteries, the licensed manufacturer sells as their own, at a minimum profit rate. They move a hundred times more of the product than the very same named product, and as such, keep sales down and prices up in the licensed product, and shipping more and more of their generic ones.
Let me add to that: a German channel now called Davision made a video comparing all brands he could find for the LP-E6NH and his result was:
A lot of the knockoffs didn’t have an actual temperature resistor (RTD) but only a static resistor. This can get dangerous when charging.
Most of the knockoffs had highly inferior internal load balancing, if any at all. The two lithium cells need to be charged and discharged equally otherwise the performance drops off fast.
His conclusion also was: buy Canon. Although 3-6x more expensive. It also lasts years without significant drop in capacity. His original battery retained something like 97% of the original capacity after about 1 year while the knockoffs fell below 70%.
Oh this is new to me and for what I use them, I haven‘t experienced a big difference in all these years. Prolly just a me-specific case and related to how I use/take care of them and not representative of the reality much. However… the safety aspect is something I was always worried bc knock off brands tend to cheap out on such measures and I‘m always overlooking the batteries charging. Really keen to watch that channel you mentioned
Actually I found a really good brand could neewer I did a bit of research and watching a few things about them I decided to buy myself the double back and I have not been disappointed they are amazing and out last my genuine ones just do a bit of research before you buy cause yes there are some bad batteries out there if you are never sure buy the genuine one to be safe
I've had good results with Neweer too!
Literally came down to comment this. I am super careful with battery brands and at the moment only have official batteries or neewer batteries. Only ever had one bad brewery battery and it just expanded on an insanely hot day, all other batteries were fine.
I always buy knock off batteries for my cameras, the catch is that I only buy them from Duracell 😄 they cost 2/3 of the price most of the time, sometimes 1/2 the price and the battery life and performance matches the oem battery every time 😄 eBay is a god-send
Powerextra and Ravpower make good knockoff batteries. I personally use a massive V-mount battery mounted to my camera via rails and it lasts multiple shoot days on one battery.
Me after watching this: ✍🏽📝 don't be cheap-sus ✍🏽📝
Thanks I didn’t know this but also hate how expensive they are
Check out the neewer brand they are really good I got two and haven't had any problems with them but do a bit of research first and see what you think that's what I did
Watson batteries from bh are generally pretty good and they’re not nearly as expensive
My manufacture batteries always went bad on me first before my 3rd party batteries
I also got scammed one 😂😂
Lol. The place I used to work. They have top end board casting Sony and Panasonic cameras with cheap out Chinese batteries. It works out very well. Cheap batteries doesn't last long but they are super cheap and we can have a lot of them.
I like that my camera uses AA batteries. I use Panasonic Eneloops which are the best rechargeable batteries in the world!
You can also rebuild battery packs yourself pretty easily.
i too have a bad discharge rate
There are high end battery manufacturers who make them. They are in general really good. They also can't afford to be too bad
The battery in my 14 y.o. Canon 50d is still working though it’s lost about 60% of its capacity I’m still able to make up to 50 photos before it dies. The knock off battery has become completely unusable after c couple of years…
There are good 3rd party batteries they are in the middle of the knockoffs and the originals
Low quality 3rd party batteries can even damage your electronics. Haven’t seen this with cameras specifically but in 2016-2018 a large number of low quality 18650 batteries hit the market and would damage devices or even catch fire under standard operation.
No charging?
The only downside to my knock off batteries is they last about half as long. My Nikon ones last way longer. I only have 2 knock offs as spares and about 4 Nikon ones.
Never experienced an issue
Just check the c rating rather than seeing the price. Greater the c rating i.e. 2c
yeah but luckily here in UAE, we get Japanese batteries. No matter what brand they are copying they are always wayyyy better than the orginals. But seriously liking your review stuff, just finished usb cables on your page, cant wait to see what comes next
These cheaper batteries basically come with a poor fabrication method which generally has high internal resistance and thus higher current draws cause more losses and they drain rapidly, hence the bad discharge rates. :)
Go for oem certified batteries always, they test it for compatibility.
My fiancé has a 6d mk2 which after a year and a half one of the official canon batteries died. I bought her a replacement kit of off brand batteries which have lasted longer on a charge than the Canon ones and have been going solid for 2 years or so. The only exception I’ll make to this is if I need to replace one of the batteries for my 1Dx Mk2. Ain’t cheating out on that baby xD
putting the words camera tech and cheap in the same sentence... you're hilarious
Nah, I bought 2 batteries AND a dual usb charger for $22 all together and didn't have a single issue in 1,5 years
My canon 90d, the knockoffs are better then my normal battery.
IS REAL!!!!
Early discharge?? 😳
Another reason is that you never know what you're truly gonna get, and lower than needed electricity is as bad as higher than needed electricity. Not recommended unless you'd like to reload your camera with the battery
I got some from Amazon that came with a charger and they were perfectly fine y’all just extra 😂😂
It's not the discharge rate, it's their stated capacity is bogus.
The C rating will affect a camera, but it'll not work at all of it isn't high enough, not run out sooner.
I have to say that there are some knockoff batteries that are really good for the price. I have some from neewer for my sony camera and they cost so much less
The battery looks like a Xbox 360 controller battery pack
Looks like ray William Johnson's brother
Duracell make after market batteries that are good, and cheaper than the original
I wish I had money for a good camera so I can take pictures of things
You can buy 3 knock offs in the price of 1 .. It doesn't sound like bad idea... Of course a photographer would have an official version.. But keeping the others around helps in many situations
I had four knock off Fuji batteries swell in camera. Almost couldn’t get them out. Never again.
I have 1 OEM and cheaper batteries just in case the OEM dies
And no data to back it up
there’s good quality knockoffs and bad quality knockoffs, do your research and buy the good ones
I have had more native batteries fail than knockoffs.
This looks like two 18650 Cells, there are not that expensive more like 20 Bucks for two, so I'd think they used good cells in the knockoff.
I worked shooting sports for a guy who bought knockoff Nikon batteries from China. They were crap, died quickly, and ruined one of the cameras. You get what you pay for.
Bad discharge rate is wrong, that doesn’t even make sense. It stutters cos the battery can’t sustain the required voltage under high discharge rate
For 30$ you can buy 3 and still have extra cash.
*Me: gets 3 of the knock off ones for $90*
Orr as i did i just replaced the batteries inside
It's the C-rate (and current) that's low.
If I need 3 30$ batteries to match a 100$ battery that I know is made specifically for that camera at the development stage, of course I'm gonna pay the 10 extra dollars!
I've never changed a battery on my main camera in my life. I never will. I don't burst shoot either. I also carry a minimum of 10x36 rolls for my main camera. I'm too old to change to digital.
And you can run the risk of breaking your camera. Issue third party batteries void the warranty
Most these companies source their lithium ion batteries from the same manufacturers so paying $70 quid more for a brand isn’t always gonna get you a better battery. Sometimes batches are faulty. Not to mention those cells are fairly inexpensive so your paying for a plastic cover and a label. Those small cells are worth pennies and they should just make their camera take two li-ion cells and buy a stock charger. Less plastic to manufacture and less fleecing the public.
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The problem is knock offs usually have lame ass lithium battery in them.
If they make good ones, they will face OEM lawsuits and have to price the battery maybe $100 more.
The final thing is that batteries are made expensive and shouldn't cost much to make.
Nawzad
100 bucks for a battery? wtf is in them other than lithium-ion goodness? like what in the actual heck
No you got it wrong the current rating on the cheap battery is fake let’s if it is 10amps (aka 10000 milliamperes) it can usually be around 2-5 amps at best so yeah depending on the brand it fluctuates but all of them never grant the real number
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What...they almost without a doubt use the same manufacturer lol. Used plenty of cheap batteries on all sorts of devices and never seen a difference other than price point. Even made my own batteries. Their circuitry is stupid simple.
I personally use my phone to take photos, mainly because the quality of phone cameras is literally nearly the same as standard system cameras, and you can get a phone with awesome camera way cheaper than same quality system camera and phone has more use than system cameras…
Your sensor is no where near the same size as a camera don't get me wrong phones have their uses but when push comes to shove DSLR and mirrorless cameras will always out do a phone
And bad quality bats can also damage your device
You never used Sony. The official ones have 1/4 the capacity and are 4x as expensive
Photoolex has higher mAh and cheaper.
I disagree. I would say memory is the most important one. Bad memory cards will ruin a day. Especially a professionals day.
I present a scenario. Context: wedding contract.
A. Shoot all day, bad battery blows up, memory intact.
B. Shoot all day, memory card fails with no redundancy.
I would say depending on the contract and camera price. Scenario B can work out to be a lotttt more expensive.
That and there’s plenty of good reliable 3rd party battery companies. Just don’t buy a random one off a sketchy website. Wasabipower, ravpower those 2 are good brands I’d recommend
mAh is not a measurement of capacity.
such an old hairstyle. haven't seen this for ages
2010 Ray William Johnson vibes
Just buy 3 for 90$
Bro my phone is 250$ and has 5000mah
30 dollars battery still knockoff at this size,something is wrong
Not paying 100$ for a battery
$100 for a 2000 mAh battery. Is anything about a camera NOT a scam??