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  • @positiveali9214
    @positiveali9214 9 месяцев назад +591

    Brother Daniel is right. Rulers are not Prophets or saints. Most rulers are only concerned about staying in power. Why shouldn't they be criticized?

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +83

      Bcoz the Prophet told us not to. Is that not enough?

    • @Ahmedahmed-tu8zn
      @Ahmedahmed-tu8zn 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@hl8302 what about Qatar Amir ?

    • @positiveali9214
      @positiveali9214 9 месяцев назад +84

      @@hl8302 Even if the ruler promotes haram activity?

    • @whhhaattttt1647
      @whhhaattttt1647 9 месяцев назад +43

      @@positiveali9214is the prophets commands not enough for you? May Allah guide you people…

    • @abdurrahimturker5479
      @abdurrahimturker5479 9 месяцев назад +52

      ​@@hl8302 according to my knowledge, the prophet forbade Rebelling against the ruler and disobeying the ruler (in matters that don't necessitate disobedience to Allah). Can you provide evidence that clearly forbids criticizing the ruler (even if he allows Shirk Rituals or Allying With the enemies of Islam in their fight against muslims]

  • @burhankhan9932
    @burhankhan9932 9 месяцев назад +277

    Shamsi seems to avoid the core of the topic, and seems to be making noises trying to avoid any logical discussion.
    I have huge respect for Shamsi's great debates with non Muslims. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to be very authentic in this discussion, really sad to see!

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +39

      ⁠you are really wrong here akhi…why didn’t daniel wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah

    • @fbgprey
      @fbgprey 9 месяцев назад +23

      Did you even watch the video? It was Daniel who digressed from the original topic when he got refuted. Plus he was the one who kept interrupting and shouting

    • @muhammadal-amin4531
      @muhammadal-amin4531 9 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@fbgpreybe honest daniel is very soft spoken in this.

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@muhammadal-amin4531
      Most people are calmer then Shamsi as most people are calmer then north Africans in general.
      Be honest Daniel had no proofs and was dieing to change topics bcoz he knew it

    • @MuslimDailyVids
      @MuslimDailyVids 9 месяцев назад

      Liars like you misguide others before they even watch the video. You will be held accountable for your lies inshallah. Anyone who actually watched the video knows who digresses and who didn’t, Daniel literally was pulled away by his handlers 😂

  • @TheMessage-tq5ds
    @TheMessage-tq5ds 9 месяцев назад +132

    this is sad to see that Shamsi is stubborn and dishonest this time. He should try to understand others point. but I think there is something fishy at his part.

    • @keedtalktoem
      @keedtalktoem 9 месяцев назад +7

      Very ironic considering the fact that Daniel was the one being dishonest. He literally lied about his tweet being AI then got exposed lmao

    • @Tearlezz
      @Tearlezz 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@hidetakamiyazaki1825 متى كذب حقيقتجو ؟ المدخليين في مصر كانوا ضد الحكم الإسلامي الإخواني في مصر و ساهموا في الانقلاب عليه ، و عندما صعد العلمانيون و العسكر للحكم ، خرجوا بفتاوى تحريم الخروج على الحاكم و أصبحوا مخبرين مع الأمن ، يكتبون التقارير ضد إخوانهم في المساجد و مواقع التواصل .

    • @TheMessage-tq5ds
      @TheMessage-tq5ds 9 месяцев назад +4

      I listened to both. I like them both. But I don't like shamsi attitude.

    • @DocBlacker
      @DocBlacker 9 месяцев назад

      He said that Daniel said something against him in some video. Thats why he is acting this way....shameful behaviour to be honest.

    • @newonevery740
      @newonevery740 8 месяцев назад +2

      He is a jami, there core tenant is to be tools of the ruler

  • @Filmi93110
    @Filmi93110 9 месяцев назад +33

    Shamsi is behaving like my 10 years son when i ask him about his homeworks

  • @saleemmemon3133
    @saleemmemon3133 9 месяцев назад +200

    Shamsi is completely shaken. Daniel is calm n cool. Shamsi when cornered starts a personal attack

    • @Halal_Dan
      @Halal_Dan 9 месяцев назад +20

      Shamsi wants to reach the truth, Daniel wants to disengage and not elaborate on his views

    • @simonkara4907
      @simonkara4907 9 месяцев назад +17

      When was it that calmness and composure became the criteria for ones argument to be true. If we apply this criteria, then Piers Morgan was the one upon the truth in both of his interviews with the brothers Mohamed hijab and Bassem youssuf.

    • @afzalhossain1429
      @afzalhossain1429 9 месяцев назад

      exactly that is why madkhalis are bootlickers
      i used to be like them

    • @muhammad608
      @muhammad608 9 месяцев назад +4

      Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.

    • @abedrahman4519
      @abedrahman4519 9 месяцев назад +2

      I saw the same comment in two different threads. Bootlickers have bots now. All of that oil money is being put to good use.

  • @Mjr8976
    @Mjr8976 9 месяцев назад +140

    Daniel is too humble wallahi, may Allah swt bless him. The speaker’s corner can drive you crazy

    • @HistoryBasis
      @HistoryBasis 9 месяцев назад +12

      MashaAllah, to Humble to even reject Quran and Sunnah that Shamsi brings him. But rather uses Emotions and logic

    • @conservativemuslim
      @conservativemuslim 9 месяцев назад +8

      He is not humble - He is ignorant. Dare him to talk about this issue only from Quran, sunnah and salaf.

    • @HistoryBasis
      @HistoryBasis 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@conservativemuslim Brother, He used Emotions in the entire video, While Shamsi brings Quran and Sunnah as his proof. Despite that, the Laymen praise Daniel who from all of that video, brought no proofs from Quran and Sunnah. Is there a comparision?

    • @conservativemuslim
      @conservativemuslim 9 месяцев назад

      @@HistoryBasis No comparison. I am not a fan of Shamsi but a person whose authority is Quran and sunnah can never accept the ideology of Daniel who should stay away from talking about islam and stick debating about isms as he usually do. Daniel lacks basic foundational knowledge of islam.
      Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman reported: I asked, “O Messenger of Allah, we were living in an evil time and Allah brought us good in which we live now. Will there be evil after this good?” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Yes.” I said, “And any good after this evil?” The Prophet said, “Yes.” I said, “And any evil after this good?” The Prophet said, “Yes.” I said, “How will it be?” The Prophet said, “Leaders after me will come who do not follow my guidance and my Sunnah. Some of their men will have the hearts of devils in a human body.” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, what should I do if I live to see that time?” The Prophet said, “You should listen and obey the ruler, even if he strikes your back and takes your wealth, even still listen and obey.”
      Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1847

    • @syad911
      @syad911 9 месяцев назад

      accusing muslims without proof is humble ? what's going on with the ummah 🤦🏻

  • @tonysykes4917
    @tonysykes4917 9 месяцев назад +140

    I like Daniel, very intelligent with good manners

    • @shotfiredmandown
      @shotfiredmandown 5 месяцев назад +1

      Good manners with the people , bad manners with Allah

  • @benjamin9886
    @benjamin9886 9 месяцев назад +118

    shamsi stuck on Madkhali to avoid speaking about the actual topics

    • @BlueSkyblueseagreenland
      @BlueSkyblueseagreenland 9 месяцев назад +14

      The topic has been address countless times, shamsi is asking him to bring proof for her slander

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +9

      ⁠why didn’t he (Daniel) wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah

    • @NicheXclusive
      @NicheXclusive 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslimcovert pdf lol bootlicker 16:18

    • @kinanisam4345
      @kinanisam4345 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@BlueSkyblueseagreenland You could find a million proofs that he is a madkhali imagine backing Assad and mbs and licking their boots. And blaming all bad things on the people. What more proof do you want.

    • @faizmiah2363
      @faizmiah2363 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslimmake this a PDF 😂

  • @noormaneka7016
    @noormaneka7016 9 месяцев назад +175

    Shamsi starts talking to the crowd every time he is cornered 😂

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +17

      Actually it was when it was clear Daniel would continue to try changing the topic and not answer

    • @idontcare7922
      @idontcare7922 9 месяцев назад

      Like a dog 😂

    • @jungle3139
      @jungle3139 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@hl8302 how comes shamsi didn't answer the question when asked about rulers he seemed scared

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@jungle3139
      You need to find the discussion they had after Maghrib. Daniel got absolutely finished on this topic and ran off. Not just by Shamsi it Sheikh Mohammed aswell.

    • @justarandomguy1566
      @justarandomguy1566 9 месяцев назад

      @@hl8302 send link
      and don't "digress"
      😂

  • @JesusIstMuslim
    @JesusIstMuslim 9 месяцев назад +76

    Shaykh Al-Albani (rahimullah): "it's not allowed to give bay'ah to rulers that don't implement shari'ah" - shamsi: "I pledge allegiance to clean shaven president who uses french laws"

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 9 месяцев назад +1

      😆
      😢

    • @salehahmed8936
      @salehahmed8936 9 месяцев назад +7

      It hurts them (madaakhil) when you give a fatwa from a unanimously trusted Shaykh that refutes their current action… study my brothers, these people can waste all day on quarrelling

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 9 месяцев назад +1

      Do you have a source to verify context?
      If they implement the sharia and make mistakes who said they aren't still followed? How about Marwan ebn hakam in Sahih M. Kitab iman.

    • @mohamedmo8128
      @mohamedmo8128 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Why does Shamsi consider Saddam Hussain to be a kaffir but the Algerian regime Muslim?

    • @TheWarrior-hj8vv
      @TheWarrior-hj8vv 9 месяцев назад

      Lmao

  • @asifkhanbdj
    @asifkhanbdj 9 месяцев назад +262

    Shamsi is trying to debate hardly but Daniel is trying to have a simple conversation 😂

    • @afzalhossain1429
      @afzalhossain1429 9 месяцев назад +22

      daniel is soo humble ma sha allah may allah unites us all

    • @Halal_Dan
      @Halal_Dan 9 месяцев назад +42

      Daniel isn't worried about speaking the truth, Shamsi is

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +30

      That's bcoz the details expose Daniel and he knows it.

    • @ExposingHindutva101
      @ExposingHindutva101 9 месяцев назад +13

      @@hl8302
      Yeah...
      Cry baby your boy shamsi is trembling like joke... He can't even stand properly...
      Talking to people instead of with Daniel.

    • @hcenehcene5310
      @hcenehcene5310 9 месяцев назад +3

      hahahahaha
      who win in debate daniel ? hahahahaha
      he can't prove his claims he is a liar @@ExposingHindutva101

  • @tarakkhandakar7332
    @tarakkhandakar7332 9 месяцев назад +180

    Shamsi seemed rattled here..Brother Daniel made him look silly. Was sad to see Shamsi look so bad in this argument. May Allah guide him.

    • @muhammad608
      @muhammad608 9 месяцев назад +17

      Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.

    • @shafaetferdousnoor1741
      @shafaetferdousnoor1741 9 месяцев назад

      Brother Daniel also made clear what he meant by the term madkhali . And Brother Danial was not a student of Islamic Knowledge as Brother shamsi so it is obvious he haven't memorized certain Scholars saying as Brother Shamsi and that doesn't disprove Brother Danials point @@muhammad608

    • @zaidislam1774
      @zaidislam1774 9 месяцев назад

      @@muhammad608every shamsi fanboy using the word “digressed” now lol get off youtube and go read a book

    • @MachTruck
      @MachTruck 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@muhammad608Can we criticize the ruler?

    • @noorulameen804
      @noorulameen804 9 месяцев назад

      Daniel is in mode denial!

  • @Foralluhaterz
    @Foralluhaterz 9 месяцев назад +166

    Shamsi was so rude, wow, brother be humble. Brother Daniel wins again, so calm and frank

    • @Anas-be2vq
      @Anas-be2vq 9 месяцев назад +30

      if being on the truth and winning arguments was about how calm you are or not, Joe Biden must be upon the truth.

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +17

      Such a low level of standards it's embarrassing. Quran and Sunnah doesn't matter, its staying calm.

    • @keedtalktoem
      @keedtalktoem 9 месяцев назад +6

      Didn’t know arguments were won on staying calm

    • @mohdfaisalkhan453
      @mohdfaisalkhan453 9 месяцев назад

      yeah dude joe biden must be correct too then. bcoz quran and sunnah doesn't matter

    • @Strijder013
      @Strijder013 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Anas-be2vqnowhere does this commenter say that simply won because he is calm and composed try to comprehend the things people say before opening your mouth

  • @waqarahmed09
    @waqarahmed09 9 месяцев назад +49

    Shamsi protecting his Saudi bosses 😂😂

    • @MCXM111
      @MCXM111 8 месяцев назад +5

      Shamsi belives Halloween celebrated in Saudi Arabia is an Islamic holiday

    • @M7md_n29er
      @M7md_n29er 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MCXM111can you link me the post/video where he said that ?

    • @muathalshehi5376
      @muathalshehi5376 3 месяца назад +1

      ﴿سَتُكْتَبُ شَهَادَتُهُمْ وَيُسْأَلُونَ﴾
      Yahya ibn Rashid said:
      We were sitting waiting for Abdullah ibn Umar who came out to us and sat. He then said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as saying: If anyone's intercession intervenes as an obstacle to one of the punishments prescribed by Allah, he has opposed Allah; if anyone disputes knowingly about something which is false, he remains in the displeasure of Allah till he desists, and if anyone makes an(( untruthful accusation)) against a Muslim, he will be made by Allah to dwell in the corrupt fluid flowing from the inhabitants of Hell till he retracts his statement.
      ​@MCXM111

  • @iledawn9282
    @iledawn9282 9 месяцев назад +105

    Why Shamasi can't answer a simple question about critizing the rulers ?
    He's always so afraid to talk about them.

    • @atravellerindunya4433
      @atravellerindunya4433 9 месяцев назад +1

      He has answered that countless times on his channel. He didn't wanted the topic to be changed. If you guys are too dumb to understand that then please stay away from this video.

    • @binmanbinman
      @binmanbinman 9 месяцев назад +15

      Probably because Daniel brought up that question after they were already having a discussion about something else.

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +4

      We could have got to that if Daniel would stop lieing that he has made a sect by himself.

    • @iledawn9282
      @iledawn9282 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@binmanbinman Understandable but that's the main issue between them twos.
      If critizing the rulers is fine or not which.

    • @hamzanocap
      @hamzanocap 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@iledawn9282The Hadith of the Prophet is clear, we are not allowed to criticise the rulers publicly. Will you submit to your Prophet or will you submit to your desires?

  • @k.r.6800
    @k.r.6800 9 месяцев назад +213

    Shamsi: I don't do politics
    Goes on criticizing the Palestinians and the Hamas authority.

    • @AbuInayaAl-Athari-po3yj
      @AbuInayaAl-Athari-po3yj 9 месяцев назад

      Hamas is not the leader so it doesnt fall under critisizing the rulers. The major scholars critisized Hamas harshly and called them unislamic. Dont listen to this Khariji Daniel who calls to bloodshedding

    • @RIZ2NE1
      @RIZ2NE1 9 месяцев назад +17

      He ddin't say that you're just as much of a liar as this Daniel guy, he said occupy all the time, even ppl wanted him to talk more politically

    • @mmasad8001
      @mmasad8001 9 месяцев назад

      yes he did i've see it and heard it people like him main divide ummah@@RIZ2NE1

    • @supermarvelgainz
      @supermarvelgainz 9 месяцев назад

      He didn't criticise Palestinians he condemned Hamas. Hamas do not represent every Palestinian. Hamas are an organisation backed by the Rafidah Shia militia who were and still are killing sunnis in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. Go research Qasem Soleimani of Iran and his atrocities againts the Muslims. Secondly Hamas indiscriminately throw rockets into Israel killing 1 innocent person or damaging a building knowing that the Zionists may Allah curse them forever will retaliate by killing thousands.

    • @manubeez1708
      @manubeez1708 9 месяцев назад

      He is the dog of Arab mornarchs. These are the people who will go against the Mahdi. The Mahdi will come to challenge these Arab king munafiqs.

  • @emerald7857
    @emerald7857 9 месяцев назад +58

    Daniel staying on topic repeating “ can we criticise the rulers?”
    Shamsi “don’t digress”
    LOL the whole contention is centred on this.

    • @Mozee854
      @Mozee854 9 месяцев назад +4

      The question shamsi asked Daniel about the usool of the "Madaakhila". He didn't answer.

    • @Shamil-ti7vh
      @Shamil-ti7vh 9 месяцев назад +3

      Daniel can’t even quote a single Ayah and Hadith to prove his point and he goes to yes or no tactics used by disbelievers.
      He clearly a debater but ignorant in islam.

    • @user-cx3qj6rw3k
      @user-cx3qj6rw3k 7 месяцев назад

      @@Mozee854what usool!
      Madkhalis that make the primary thing in Islam is to obey the rulers and everything else comes after. Most Arabs in Middle East knows this but no one will talk about it bcz the result is either jail&torture or getting killed

    • @Mozee854
      @Mozee854 6 месяцев назад

      @@Shamil-ti7vh exactly. He's a charlatan.

  • @dualism70
    @dualism70 9 месяцев назад +86

    I lost my respect for Shamsi, firstly he really defended the Saudi government but not support Palestinian and argued that he was not interested in politics, secondly here Shamsi was very aggressive he ignored Daniel's question just for the conclusion he made, this is not a conversation in my opinion, it's not even a debate, he looks like a showman.

    • @UrFudher
      @UrFudher 9 месяцев назад

      Shamsi was at a local masjid and did make dua for the Palestinian people and said the leader's are a reflection of the people.
      That's probably highest criticism I have heard from him against the rulers.

    • @Saeed1vf
      @Saeed1vf 9 месяцев назад +1

      😅😅So U think UR respect is concerned for shamsi who stand with Quran and sunnah

    • @paradisepeace9994
      @paradisepeace9994 9 месяцев назад

      @@Saeed1vf , 1)The obedience of the Muslim leader only applies to matters that are permissible in Islam. If they demand actions that are sinful, one is excused from their obedience
      It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar that the Prophet (ﷺ) said:
      "It is obligatory upon a Muslim that he should listen (to the ruler appointed over him) and obey him whether he likes it or not, except that he is ordered to do a sinful thing. If he is ordered to do a sinful act, a Muslim should neither listen to him nor should he obey his orders.
      حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا لَيْثٌ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّهُ قَالَ ‏ "‏ عَلَى الْمَرْءِ الْمُسْلِمِ السَّمْعُ وَالطَّاعَةُ فِيمَا أَحَبَّ وَكَرِهَ إِلاَّ أَنْ يُؤْمَرَ بِمَعْصِيَةٍ فَإِنْ أُمِرَ بِمَعْصِيَةٍ فَلاَ سَمْعَ وَلاَ طَاعَةَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏"
      - Sahih Muslim 1839a
      2) Terrorist Israel and Quraysh are not the same. Israel is the illegal occupier but the Quraish were not.If you say the victim should have a peach of a deal with the rapist, then you're wrong. Why is Israel not like the Quraish?
      then Imagine: someone breaks into your's room, and you attempts to remove the illegal intruders to protect your family and yourself. However, enemies of you argue that the illegal intruders have a right to self-defense from you.
      -Means: Rapist has right to protect him from victims.If you say the victim should have a peach of a deal with the rapist, then you're wrong
      Because of the peace Treaty, normalization,Israel took this opportunity and Israel has already swallowed almost the whole of Palestine . Today, they have acquired the ability to cut off supplies at will. After that, the peace treaty with them?

    • @egtaha
      @egtaha 9 месяцев назад +1

      That really tells you whose payroll he’s on! Hasbuna Allah

    • @dualism70
      @dualism70 9 месяцев назад

      So, tell me Shamsi toxic fans, how good is Shamsi that he is never wrong and always right in criticizing many people, even criticizing a Sheikh, creating this circus by spreading it on RUclips so that the ummah is divided, is that what you want?

  • @mrcrush3r534
    @mrcrush3r534 9 месяцев назад +70

    I stand with daniel, Shamsi is a showman, he debates for the sake of humiliating others and not letting them speak properly, not to find the truth.

    • @BlueSkyblueseagreenland
      @BlueSkyblueseagreenland 9 месяцев назад +5

      What truth are you going to find from a slanderer like Daniel?

    • @DonAtor309
      @DonAtor309 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@BlueSkyblueseagreenlandspeaking truth is not slander

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +1

      If it’s to humiliate falsehood for the sake of Allah alhamdulilah especially it’s callers to innovation or kufr, shamsi btw believes debating innovators even kuffar is haram unless someone is sincere than you can talk to that person, or if someone who is an innovator or a kaffir who is going around lying and putting doubts like brother Daniel does than it’s permissible only out of necessity to refute the lies…he’s mentioned this time and time he doesn’t debate anyone unless there sincere…so fear Allah

    • @banismoh7817
      @banismoh7817 4 месяца назад

      The same guy that doesnt give u the definition of group accord to thier book but according to his intellect and the same guy that says shikh x said they are goup of biddah we live now after khlaiphat and there s jammat not one jamaa and the same guy that lied about his tweets

  • @operationsnakeeater
    @operationsnakeeater 9 месяцев назад +76

    Shamsi ask questions Daniel answers them, and when Daniel ask him one he replies "i will tell the answer later".

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +2

      Liar, go watch the video again…​​⁠why didn’t he (Daniel) wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah

    • @fbgprey
      @fbgprey 9 месяцев назад +12

      Daniel quite literally didn’t answer any questions

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +5

      Is English your first language?

    • @operationsnakeeater
      @operationsnakeeater 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@fbgprey Daniel gave example of scholars, defined madkhali, explained what he tweeted, gave of whom those scholar called out.
      Keep saying Daniel didn't answer anything, it's just what to expect from middle.east government fan.

    • @operationsnakeeater
      @operationsnakeeater 9 месяцев назад

      @@hl8302 no

  • @diddydum
    @diddydum 9 месяцев назад +26

    Shamsi flapping around... dont digrresss... don't digressss

    • @MarkazAlHaqq
      @MarkazAlHaqq 9 месяцев назад

      Because he is digressing. When he doesn't want to be exposed you idiots keep defending him. All his points got cooked and he had no adaab to let brother shamsi speak

  • @underberg3007
    @underberg3007 9 месяцев назад +219

    may allah unite us upon the quran and the sunnah

    • @rcmysm9123
      @rcmysm9123 9 месяцев назад

      We are guided to follow Quran and Ahlul Bayt.

    • @underberg3007
      @underberg3007 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@rcmysm9123 and we’re guided to follow quran and ahlu albait and sahaba and worshiping allah alone

    • @rcmysm9123
      @rcmysm9123 9 месяцев назад

      @@underberg3007
      Our prophet Muhammad pbuh said left us TWO weighty things, not three. So don't be so trinitarian.
      And Shia of Ali ibn Abu Talib only worship Allah swt.

    • @underberg3007
      @underberg3007 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@rcmysm9123 and the prophet peace be upon said follow the two after me abu bakr and omar and shia doesn’t worship allah alone you call upon ali and hussain and you say prophet muhmmed’s wife do adultery

    • @rcmysm9123
      @rcmysm9123 9 месяцев назад

      @@underberg3007
      No he didn't, but you follow forged hadith paid for by Muawiyah (la).

  • @Yorkshire7
    @Yorkshire7 9 месяцев назад +89

    Shamsi is a waste of time , he can’t debate properly. He get’s so excited that it’s difficult to follow what he’s saying.

    • @think-islam-channel
      @think-islam-channel 9 месяцев назад +1

      💚👍

    • @najibhoushang6516
      @najibhoushang6516 9 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly! He has good intentions but not the right qualities

    • @DocBlacker
      @DocBlacker 9 месяцев назад

      Shamsi said Brother Daniel said something about him in some video so his nefs was speaking here. Thats why he was emotional.

  • @moosyx
    @moosyx 9 месяцев назад +16

    Shamsi is not a Scholar to say kafir

  • @Haze_in-bw7ff
    @Haze_in-bw7ff 9 месяцев назад +11

    "you're doing the work for free thats the difference " Daniel to Shamsi
    VIOLATIONNN 100

  • @mrcrush3r534
    @mrcrush3r534 9 месяцев назад +83

    Shamsi holds on to a point that doesn't even matter that much, he waits for a mistake and starts eating you up, and never leaves it, then interrupts you and even finish the discussion whenever he wants claiming he won, his goal from a debate is to humiliate the other person, not to find the truth, I honestly used to like him but he is becoming very annoying and arrogant.

    • @Ibn-Abdurrahman
      @Ibn-Abdurrahman 9 месяцев назад +9

      It gets obvious and cringe when he says “watch watch watch”

    • @ShakeOneOfficial
      @ShakeOneOfficial 9 месяцев назад +3

      💯%

    • @noneya3969
      @noneya3969 9 месяцев назад +11

      So he’s wrong for wanting to stick to the point? Isn’t that how you get to the truth instead of constantly changing the subject? Don’t be a Danieli

    • @ilyasancharad4285
      @ilyasancharad4285 9 месяцев назад +12

      thats what i love about him. no strawman with shamsi or.jumpint arround. if you claim something and you are wrong just admit it..dont try to jump to an other argument and dont aknowlegde you lost.

    • @Anas-be2vq
      @Anas-be2vq 9 месяцев назад +9

      so should he jump from point to point without fully talking about it and coming to a final agreement or atleast clarifying the truth about it?

  • @user-nt9ic2dm6d
    @user-nt9ic2dm6d 9 месяцев назад +61

    Shamsi=Suhaib Webb, both exposed. Thanks bro Daniel. Palestine 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 in our hearts.

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад

      Lmaoooo CANT be serious putting shamsi in the same sentence as an extreme ashari sufi, And shamsi didn’t get humiliated like Webb did rather clearly the opposite he simply destroyed brother Daniel here you obviously didn’t understand a word being discussed from shamsis mouth if U think he made no sense.

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@PrayformetobeagoodmuslimI'm so curious to why shamsi only has this big mouth for mbs but not the other leaders who are doing much less harm to their people..isn't that hypocrisy 🤔

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад

      @@Asiyah2000 what’re u even on about? I’m not defending any leader but it’s well known saudis and ppl in the gulf in general love there leaders, unlike other muslim lands(they all hate their leaders)…u seriously don’t know what you’re talking bout sister. BarackAllahufeek

  • @shirra86
    @shirra86 9 месяцев назад +8

    Tbh shamshi was dodging the questions like Boris the bullet dodger

  • @Zabeast99
    @Zabeast99 9 месяцев назад +116

    Shamsi exposed by brother Daneil. Alhamdulillah

    • @noneya3969
      @noneya3969 9 месяцев назад

      The only one who is exposed is you who hates Muhammad PBUH and disobeys his clear orders about not speaking against the Muslim rulers in public. If you hate Rasul Allah, why are you Muslim?

    • @ilyasancharad4285
      @ilyasancharad4285 9 месяцев назад +12

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 danlel was running away like a chicken what are you on about. first claiming its a group in islam and then saying its his OWN deffinition😂😂😂

    • @Harris19941
      @Harris19941 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​​@@abdulrahmanalmashgari8902no one exposed no one here
      the whole point was whether we can criticize rulers and shamsi kept evading the question

    • @atravellerindunya4433
      @atravellerindunya4433 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@Harris19941 Why do you need to ask that question in the park? Go ask scholars. But daniel admitted he is nobody to make sects. He lost the debate right then and there.

    • @atravellerindunya4433
      @atravellerindunya4433 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@ilyasancharad4285 Daniel got humiliated and changed his stance in 2 seconds haha

  • @thrilled2bits
    @thrilled2bits 9 месяцев назад +122

    Shamsi has learned a new word and he's sticking to it? I digress... LOL

    • @emerald7857
      @emerald7857 9 месяцев назад +9

      Looooool I caught the over use

  • @Dr.KhizarShabir-dl1ho
    @Dr.KhizarShabir-dl1ho 9 месяцев назад +36

    Shamsi : Don't digress from the topic
    Daniel : Can we criticise Rulers (a million times) ?
    Shamsi : Bla bla bla digresses from the topic

  • @nowfarhan
    @nowfarhan 9 месяцев назад +12

    When someone uses many words but is saying nothing, when someone won't answer simple questions, it is a sign of not knowing what the person is talking about.

  • @AhmedMil571
    @AhmedMil571 9 месяцев назад +23

    "Obey Allah and His Messenger and do not dispute with one another, or you would be discouraged and weakened. Persevere! Surely Allah is with those who persevere." SURAH AL-ANFAL 46

  • @Anonymous.187
    @Anonymous.187 9 месяцев назад +20

    Mashallah Brother Daniel did well.

  • @benjamin9886
    @benjamin9886 9 месяцев назад +75

    shamsi got stuck on one topic on purpose 😂

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +10

      Only a fool moves on from topic to topic without even finishing the 1st one.

    • @NuranSallahi
      @NuranSallahi 9 месяцев назад

      @@hl8302shamsis point is irrelevant based on his opinion

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@NuranSallahi
      It's very relevant. Daniel is creating a group with no foundation.

    • @badarasn4408
      @badarasn4408 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@hl8302exactly brother

    • @muhammad608
      @muhammad608 9 месяцев назад +2

      Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler?, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.

  • @RR-qq3jo
    @RR-qq3jo 9 месяцев назад +61

    Does Shamsi only criticise people if a scholar says so? does he only do everything a scholar says LOL joker.

    • @abdul-hadidadkhah1459
      @abdul-hadidadkhah1459 9 месяцев назад +7

      If we had a pound for every time Shamsi made tabdee or takfir we would be able to save Gaza.

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +2

      Your mixing between issues, shamsi clearly answered that doubt Daniel tried to bring but because u don’t speak Arabic u didn’t understand him what he said…he said if the person believes in something that is known by the religion from every muslim like worshipping a cow(every muslim will say that person is a kaffir you don’t need a scholar to make that takfeer) but the things you need a scholar to make tabdee3 or takfeer on is things that aren’t known by necessity to EVERY muslim and there can even be confusion regarding it weather if it’s bidaa or kufr(more with bidaa t be honest)…so learn Arabic before trynna expose shamsi May Allah bless u.

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459
      If you learnt how to count, you wouldn't make such a comment

    • @RR-qq3jo
      @RR-qq3jo 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Prayformetobeagoodmuslim SO can you critique the rulers LOL mans answering everything but that. where were the Salifis 80 years ago? exactly didn't exist haha.

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад

      @@RR-qq3jo according to Quran and sunnah books of the Islamic tradition books of the salaf of CREED not books of history or books of Fiqh…than no not MUSLIM rulers, and scholars should advise the rulers and Take them by the hand that’s the Islamic way abd this was advised to us by the greatest man to ever live and he was advised by the creator of the heavens and the earth so alhamdulilah call us bootkickets all you want your insulting Allah and his messenger not us(so called madkhalis)

  • @gibgib4007
    @gibgib4007 9 месяцев назад +64

    Shamsi made to look bad here. 😂

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yes bcoz someone diverting every 2 min coz they got no proof is a good look right?
      Daniel was desperate from the start to divert topics coz he knew.

    • @Ahmedkhan-hc5gu
      @Ahmedkhan-hc5gu 9 месяцев назад +1

      Shamsi made himself look bad, unruly thug vs a professor.

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Ahmedkhan-hc5gu
      Professor in philosophy and politics. No Quran and no Sunnah. Just opinions and emotions.
      Watch the discussion after Maghrib. I'm sure your opinion won't change because it's not the eyes, but the heart that is blind.

    • @ummemuhammad7283
      @ummemuhammad7283 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@hl8302why was he not answering daniel

  • @allykhan8594
    @allykhan8594 9 месяцев назад +41

    Salaam Sincere brother Daniel!!!

  • @sheikhmiah154
    @sheikhmiah154 9 месяцев назад +185

    Daniel is to intelligence for this discussion tbh.

    • @BlueSkyblueseagreenland
      @BlueSkyblueseagreenland 9 месяцев назад

      Daniel is a slandering unintelligent pauper

    • @ahmadhaafiz7138
      @ahmadhaafiz7138 9 месяцев назад +2

      Indeed..

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +24

      An intelligent person would have proofs....

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +6

      ⁠why didn’t he wanna bring his usool if he’s so Islamically intellectually above shamsi? With all due respect to Daniel but does he even speak Arabic??? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah

    • @mhd175
      @mhd175 9 месяцев назад +5

      So intelligent that he doesn't need to quote Qur'an and Sunnah just his emotions and opinion are enough

  • @principlemethods5281
    @principlemethods5281 9 месяцев назад +95

    A sect is a group, but a group is not necessarily a sect

    • @DarkPacmanC
      @DarkPacmanC 9 месяцев назад +8

      If you call a group of Muslims a label other than "Muslim", it's a sect. That's why the label "Ahl as-Sunnah" exists in the first place, akhi...

    • @deathstroke334
      @deathstroke334 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@DarkPacmanCa group of Muslims around the corner are not a sect.
      They are a group.
      This group of Muslims around the corner are.... Drug dealers. Let's call them corner-drugstore Muslims.
      This doesn't make them a sect in Islam. It is a group of people who claim they are Muslim that are described by traits. Chill.

    • @Mixedblood82
      @Mixedblood82 9 месяцев назад +1

      It's really. When we say sect, we talk about differences in beliefs. When we say group, we talk about those who do a certain act.
      Groups within a sect, for us it's ahle sunnah Wal jammat, focus on certain things. Sole people do it. Some don't, some agree, some disagree, bit it doesn't take you outside the fold of Islam.

    • @nak.lanang
      @nak.lanang 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@DarkPacmanC group of muslim doing some economic activity, so we call them sect?? This logic make me cry

    • @jananchoudhury1503
      @jananchoudhury1503 9 месяцев назад +2

      Irrelevant.
      There is only one Firqatun Naaji'ah (Saved SECT) and Taa'ifatun Mansoorah (Victorious GROUP). Both names belong to the one and same people whom Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam) described in detail.
      We don't need modern English semantics, Barak Allahu feek, when wahee from Allah has cleared the matter (paraphrasing Surah Najm 3-4)

  • @knowledge8783
    @knowledge8783 9 месяцев назад +126

    Shamsi the true waffler

    • @PakiFighter
      @PakiFighter 9 месяцев назад +2

      He makes waffles? 😁

    • @Abqariyyah100
      @Abqariyyah100 9 месяцев назад

      @@PakiFighterhad he made waffles that would have been better maybe than him speaking nonsense

    • @raymonddarhk20
      @raymonddarhk20 9 месяцев назад +3

      He really is & he does it fast with old-school gimmicks_(crowd-control).

    • @thestreetlightnews
      @thestreetlightnews 9 месяцев назад +2

      Shamsi is more concerned with defending his group/sect and having the last word in.

    • @HistoryBasis
      @HistoryBasis 9 месяцев назад +1

      For Bringing evidences from Quran and Sunnah

  • @habibullah610able
    @habibullah610able 9 месяцев назад +131

    Danial is the champ mashallah

    • @muhammad608
      @muhammad608 9 месяцев назад +2

      Daniel is the child here, he can't even answer a simple question, which scholar made a group or sect called madkhali? what are their principles and creed, Shamsi asked a very simple question and Daniel digressed and keep asking Shamsi about can we criticize the ruler, and scholars already answered these questions many times. You are clearly a Daniel Pikachu fanboy.

    • @idontcare7922
      @idontcare7922 9 месяцев назад

      ​@Gatsudoshamesy is taghut

    • @HistoryBasis
      @HistoryBasis 9 месяцев назад +1

      MashaAllah a Jahil who never learned from Scholars, used Emotions and Logic against Shamsi who used evidence from Quran and Sunnah.

    • @idontcare7922
      @idontcare7922 9 месяцев назад

      @@HistoryBasis shamsi is taghut

    • @HistoryBasis
      @HistoryBasis 9 месяцев назад

      @@idontcare7922 Evidences from Quran and Sunnah?
      Brother do not be emotional like Daniel, you will see what it leads you to

  • @mzorkea
    @mzorkea 9 месяцев назад +17

    So many madkhali saudi bots commenting here defending shamsi 😂

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +1

      Lol the opposite if you ask me daniels boys are waaay more in number and he’s way more famous so it makes sense that daniels bots are more in the comment sections, I only seen a few comments no more than 10 ppl in support of shamsi and there all the same ppl,(me being one of them) daniels got all the top comments

    • @mzorkea
      @mzorkea 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Prayformetobeagoodmuslim i dont think daniel has invested billions of riyals in hiring bots that promote his work unlike some gulf countries governments do. So the only reason you see so many comments praising daniel is probably because he was calm & collected throughout the discourse and performed well

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mzorkea lol daniels bots are in every video that refuted him even with Islamic proofs you see them everywhere I knew they were gonna be massive in this comment section also. Shamsi is no where near as famous sadly ppl don’t follow ppl of true knowledge of the religion they follow famous ppl who think they know the religion which is one of the many reasons the ummah is in the state it is today.

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад

      @@abrek6970 salafis are jews? Prove to me salafis are Jews. That’s a big accusation and takfeer so thanks for clarifying ur a massive takfeeri

  • @Mohammed-jf2sp
    @Mohammed-jf2sp 9 месяцев назад +21

    الله يهدي شمسي للحق، ما أضعف حجته.

    • @fbgprey
      @fbgprey 9 месяцев назад +4

      *Daniel

    • @Saeed1vf
      @Saeed1vf 9 месяцев назад +1

      بل كانت حجته هي الدامغة بالكتاب و السنة في حين أن دانيال كان مفلسا من الأدلة الشرعية

    • @Mohammed-jf2sp
      @Mohammed-jf2sp 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Saeed1vf إن كانت الحجة بالصوت العالي والانفعال المفرط فحتما قد غلب بحجته.

    • @banismoh7817
      @banismoh7817 4 месяца назад

      ماقول رسول صلى الله عليه و سلم في نصح ولاة الامر !؟؟ ماهو موقع القران مع ولاة الامر !؟؟ ماذا قال شافعي رحمه الله عن النصح
      الله يهدينا جميعا و يجعلنا متوحدين على كلمة واحدة موحدين
      اما دنيال فهو شخص يعطيك تعرف جماعة من راسه كيف هذا
      اصلا مدخلي ليست حتى جماعة هذا كلمة مصطنعة 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @builder481
    @builder481 9 месяцев назад +110

    tbh i'm glad Daniel made it clear that we can criticize rulers

    • @usmannazir-fb1vy
      @usmannazir-fb1vy 9 месяцев назад +16

      yes we can criticize them

    • @rcmysm9123
      @rcmysm9123 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, we start with Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman.

    • @boelichoeli2121
      @boelichoeli2121 9 месяцев назад

      what?

    • @MarkazAlHaqq
      @MarkazAlHaqq 9 месяцев назад +18

      We cannot. He got cooked. All his fanboys kept saying he won or has points. Shamsi cooked him on all points. He brought up points with references and Daniel kept quiet. He kept interrupting and shouting. No adaab at all

    • @RR-qq3jo
      @RR-qq3jo 9 месяцев назад +16

      @@MarkazAlHaqq Sorry I liked Shamsi in the past but he gets taken to the cleaners against Daniel, Shamsi isn't on that level unfortunately. One question in 20 mins and Shamsi never ever answered it. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. He can't.

  • @salimkou7318
    @salimkou7318 9 месяцев назад +71

    Shamsi this is not the time, My Allah guide you and guide us

    • @whhhaattttt1647
      @whhhaattttt1647 9 месяцев назад +4

      Then when is the time? Yes continue to make dua for Palestine and donate if you are able but dawah and speaking haqq does not take a backseat brother

    • @fayaqun0
      @fayaqun0 9 месяцев назад

      Ameen

  • @emerald7857
    @emerald7857 9 месяцев назад +5

    “Show me proof” lol Shamsi already putting burden on the other to carry the weight of the conversation. Its a safety tactic for him.

  • @emerald7857
    @emerald7857 9 месяцев назад +4

    Daniel knew his trip to the uk is not complete with visiting London nor is a visit to London complete without visiting speakers corner. 😂🎉

  • @habibullah610able
    @habibullah610able 9 месяцев назад +11

    Shamsi is not an alim but acts like one then tells others not to lol

  • @user-nz3lx3zd9s
    @user-nz3lx3zd9s 9 месяцев назад +6

    Shamsi and piers morgan are the same they both can’t answer a simple questions they like to dodge and always look for excuses by twisting words. May Allah guide brother shamsi to the right path.

  • @boulmo9167
    @boulmo9167 9 месяцев назад +8

    shamsi lowkey just wanted to make that point so bad😂

  • @imammurrahyoungerbrother
    @imammurrahyoungerbrother 9 месяцев назад +60

    Zamzi refused to say whether the rulers can be criticise. He refused to answer, he is the one saying the rulers can’t be criticised

    • @MAli99923
      @MAli99923 9 месяцев назад +13

      Shamsi's stance is already known but the reason he didnt answer because DH was tryna digress

    • @imammurrahyoungerbrother
      @imammurrahyoungerbrother 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@MAli99923 digress 2 what? Daniel already stated he referred to those saying leaders shouldn’t be criticised are the makhali butlickerd

    • @MarkazAlHaqq
      @MarkazAlHaqq 9 месяцев назад +5

      Show us where. All you Danny fanboys keep this trend of him being a scholar. He got shutdown on every point. He could t provide references, shamsi backfired his points and he got shocked. You speak just got air and no points with knowledge

    • @amjidali588
      @amjidali588 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@MarkazAlHaqqwhy can't you criticise Saudi?

    • @atravellerindunya4433
      @atravellerindunya4433 9 месяцев назад

      @@amjidali588 What will a nobody like you or me criticising them will achieve? Explain that to me and show me its benefits. I will join you in criticising them.

  • @abdullahissa2717
    @abdullahissa2717 9 месяцев назад +17

    I always assumed good of Shamsi, even after all the problems other Muslims RUclipsrs said things about him. But now I am convinced. Alhamdulilah.

    • @azakisma.1.mo_ago
      @azakisma.1.mo_ago 9 месяцев назад

      Shansi is the worst...a deviant...he talk and talk to cover his stupidity. He don't want to answer any questions because he is an ahlul bidah of the wahabi sect always do this

  • @AfgZoi
    @AfgZoi 9 месяцев назад +6

    Shamsi is not answering the question and wants agreement from the crowd which he is not getting lmao

  • @Ya39oub_G
    @Ya39oub_G 9 месяцев назад +26

    For the ones who say this is not the appropriate time please say that to the Madkalis who are back stabbing the Ummah in times like these.

    • @hcenehcene5310
      @hcenehcene5310 9 месяцев назад

      and you are fighting in palestine in this time.Emotional words because he exposed Daniel

    • @Ya39oub_G
      @Ya39oub_G 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@hcenehcene5310
      I don't think he exposed anything, he refused to answer questions and evaded the main issue and he contradicts himself a lot and refused to have a civil dialogue.

    • @hcenehcene5310
      @hcenehcene5310 9 месяцев назад

      shamsi speak with quran and sunna and daniel speak with his disires

    • @Ya39oub_G
      @Ya39oub_G 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@hcenehcene5310
      Average MCA fan who follows certain "shaikhs" like it's a football club, the state sponsored Madkhali "shaikhs" have fooled a lot of ignorant young men in Algiers.

    • @pascalinapascalino
      @pascalinapascalino 9 месяцев назад

      ممكن فهمني وين راك تنشن؟ تبانلي راك تنشن على الخروج.. طيب و الاحاديث النبوية الشريفة ترفضها؟ فهمني ما فهمتش وين بها@@Ya39oub_G

  • @MobinYazdani-xh7er
    @MobinYazdani-xh7er 9 месяцев назад +58

    Iam Iranian sunni muslim and I proud to my brother Daniel who we are from same country, shamsi is not great inviter like Daniel

    • @mohdfaisalkhan453
      @mohdfaisalkhan453 9 месяцев назад

      yeah that is why thousands people through the dawah of shamsi. when was the last time anyone accepted Islam through daniel ?

    • @MobinYazdani-xh7er
      @MobinYazdani-xh7er 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@mohdfaisalkhan453 shamsi speak in public this is why many people converted to islam but Daniel speak in internet and debeat with great Atheist and Christian scholors and many people comment on his video and they saying by watching his debeat they converting to islam

    • @AminAmin-oz4sv
      @AminAmin-oz4sv 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@mohdfaisalkhan453 Guidance comes from Allah not shamsi, his dawah is good in many things. But in this point he seem to be very wrong. May Allah guide us all. Daniel does not to convert anyone to prove Shamsi wrong.....

    • @axxiii8337
      @axxiii8337 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@AminAmin-oz4svwell said

    • @ThePolemicist786
      @ThePolemicist786 9 месяцев назад

      @@mohdfaisalkhan453 isis made people come to islam, thicko

  • @alignment0
    @alignment0 9 месяцев назад +8

    Debates and opinions are always needed between religions and within religions. It ultimately brings more Clarity and unity.

    • @PrizrenaliZH
      @PrizrenaliZH 9 месяцев назад

      Bro, we need no philosophy. We need Qur'an and Sunnah.

    • @alignment0
      @alignment0 9 месяцев назад

      @@PrizrenaliZH it's all Relative.

    • @PrizrenaliZH
      @PrizrenaliZH 9 месяцев назад

      @@alignment0 exactly not it is. Truth is one. Allah is Truth and Allah is Peace.

    • @alignment0
      @alignment0 9 месяцев назад

      @@PrizrenaliZH 😉

  • @relaxman8076
    @relaxman8076 9 месяцев назад +5

    Nice conversation Masha Allah,, salute to Daniel and Shamsi.

    • @mqb5151
      @mqb5151 9 месяцев назад +4

      LOL I don't know what debate you were watching but by enlarge Samshi got absolutely rattled

    • @zoomforlife
      @zoomforlife 9 месяцев назад

      go to sleep

  • @jungle3139
    @jungle3139 9 месяцев назад +5

    " Shamsi can we criticise the Rulers" avoids the question but with other people in the Park which are Lay he openly says it seems to me he feels threatened by Daniel thats why his avoiding to answer his question

  • @safiullah5329
    @safiullah5329 9 месяцев назад +9

    Masha Allah Daniel brother ❤

  • @HPSaucey26
    @HPSaucey26 9 месяцев назад +21

    Whilst men, women and children in Palestine are being killed and murdered, speakers corner is still active and people are having pointless debates. As Muslims, regardless of which school of thought we follow, we have to stick together in these horrific times for Palestinians.

    • @saadwael492
      @saadwael492 9 месяцев назад

      Madkhalis are not a school of thought ,they are nothing but rulers' bootlickers.

    • @rubiyaparvin
      @rubiyaparvin 9 месяцев назад

      Exactly!

    • @sweeyong7756
      @sweeyong7756 9 месяцев назад

      That is like accepting normalization..we have diference,.lets accept our difference whether right or wrong and shake hands and walk our separate ways.

  • @alib8489
    @alib8489 9 месяцев назад +14

    WHY ARE WE ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER, FOCUS ON GAZA AND PALASTINE

    • @EpikMunk
      @EpikMunk 9 месяцев назад +2

      Why are you in a comment section of a video that's not about Gaza and Palestine?

    • @Adil-uk7vh
      @Adil-uk7vh 9 месяцев назад +1

      Shamsi doesn't like that. He likes infighting.

    • @lambeefbiryani08
      @lambeefbiryani08 9 месяцев назад +1

      You should ask that question to shamsi not to daniel...

  • @barz404
    @barz404 9 месяцев назад +15

    notice how Shamsi keeps dodging the questions. shams always criticize muslims and the nerve he has to say he doesn't criticize

    • @binmanbinman
      @binmanbinman 9 месяцев назад +4

      I didn’t see any questions he dodged. If anything Daniel was fluttered and refuted in this

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад

      ⁠shamsi wasn’t dodging anything he was getting there, the one who was dodging THE bigger ISSUE at hand was brother daniel, why didn’t he wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah

  • @Ibn-Abdurrahman
    @Ibn-Abdurrahman 9 месяцев назад +51

    Alhamdulillah for Br.Daniel

  • @aminuaidara8601
    @aminuaidara8601 9 месяцев назад +14

    Just break my heart when I see Muslims brother's like this 😢😢😢😢😢😢may the almighty Allah bless them an guide as all 🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲

  • @Safia91
    @Safia91 9 месяцев назад +10

    I can't listen to this shamsi guy

  • @sedekiebility9477
    @sedekiebility9477 9 месяцев назад +25

    This was really embarrassing for me as a Muslim. Shamsi was aggressive towards brother Daniel. Brother Daniel was just visiting UK. He shouldn't have been treated like that

    • @jethrosheikh6994
      @jethrosheikh6994 9 месяцев назад +1

      Shamsi cnt help himself

    • @neko7981
      @neko7981 9 месяцев назад

      shamsi views him as n enemy the same way omar sharif viewed the osmani kalifs

    • @user-mk3rb5jq5o
      @user-mk3rb5jq5o 9 месяцев назад

      I'm afraid Shamsi has been exposed

  • @Algerian-salafi
    @Algerian-salafi 9 месяцев назад +2

    prophet mohamed pbuh said
    (Whoever wants to advise someone with authority in a matter should not do so publicly.) authentic hadith

    • @aqeel2859
      @aqeel2859 18 дней назад

      Is this not for private matters?

  • @Ahmedahmed-tu8zn
    @Ahmedahmed-tu8zn 9 месяцев назад +65

    Shamsi is waffling dude.

    • @noneya3969
      @noneya3969 9 месяцев назад +9

      He’s literally sticking to the point. You’re just a Danieli

    • @atravellerindunya4433
      @atravellerindunya4433 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@noneya3969 I call them HaqiqatCHEW and their idol HaqiqatJEW.

    • @nonenone8644
      @nonenone8644 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@noneya3969lol

    • @squidguard1
      @squidguard1 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@noneya3969defending Saudi Arabia like he’s on their payroll

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@squidguard1
      This video was made for you. You duck all the Q's Daniel was ducking. And you just go quite and disappear.

  • @muddassirghoorun4322
    @muddassirghoorun4322 8 месяцев назад +3

    5 minutes in and shamsi does not criticize bad rulers?

  • @haithem8906
    @haithem8906 9 месяцев назад +18

    shamsi is used to dealing with christians,
    its sad seeing him trying to humilate his brother out like that. (it back fired tbh)

    • @haithem8906
      @haithem8906 9 месяцев назад +2

      for anyone that was on "shamsi side" or whatever,
      he lost, he digressed alot, even when he was getting a real answer, he just brushed it off like its out of context.
      my allah guide us all

    • @sanzidasultana2147
      @sanzidasultana2147 9 месяцев назад

      Its start with hijab n ali dawah n now its increasing day by day. Its sad. Sorry to see this

    • @aymenswisy4969
      @aymenswisy4969 9 месяцев назад

      Muslims dealing like this with Muslims is the trait of being a madkhali

    • @fbgprey
      @fbgprey 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@haithem8906Name one thing he digressed

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +3

      Must be a typo. You mean Daniel diverted from everything right?
      People stop understanding English when Quran and Sunnah is presented. Scary

  • @ShakeOneOfficial
    @ShakeOneOfficial 9 месяцев назад +18

    Brother Daniel Haqiqatjou wiped the floor with Madkhali Shamsi Allahu+-Akbar!!!!!!!

    • @dawah.salafi
      @dawah.salafi 9 месяцев назад +6

      He should stick to wiping floors, he was digressing the whole time. Instead of talking about the issue of sects, and how "madkhalis" are a sect or not, he speaksa about rulers.

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​​⁠why didn’t he wanna bring his usool? It was as clear as day shamsi was trying to build upon the books of the scholars from the salaf, and than take things step by step, but Daniel just jumped into accusations and big slanderous doubts without building a bridge that both shamsi and Daniel can both use as a criteria(the Quran sunnah books of the salaf) he Daniel didn’t wanna do that cause he knew shamsi was gonna expose his aqeedah, shamsi here exposed Daniels usool that he is little when it comes to Islamic knowledge especially knowledge of usool and principles of the religion and manhaj of how to seek knowledge and how to do istimbaat of the nussoos(texts). May Allah reward both brother shamsi and brother Daniel although I disagree with brother shamsi on certain furoo3 issues I have to be just he showed there is levels when it comes to ISLAMIC knowledge and not just knowledge based off of statistics and refuting liberals all the time etc which is a good thing brother Daniel does but he needs to ground himself in BENEFICIAL knowledge of usool ul deen and usool Al aqeedah/fiqh, Hadith and istilah and than learning those sciences and choosing what’s right and what’s wrong in the shariah, basically he needs to learn thé correct way before jumping into issues that he always talks about like madkhali this madkhali that, May Allah guide him and all of us Muslims to unite upon a proper usool-manhaj and build our aqeedah on that so we can unite upon the truth, but this will only happen with beneficial knowledge that shamsi himself Carrie’s more than our brother Daniel does, Daniel is good at refuting academia with no Islamic usool shamsi is good at both Allahuma baarik. Why? Because he has the Islamic sciences to back him up and he knows how to use that knowledge to refute atheists and all other religions and even devients from our ummah…we’re Daniel clearly doesn’t have that…only a person who knows what I’m talking about will understand what I’m saying and that shamsi straight up destroyed Daniel here if we’re speaking shar3ee conditions and not based on our emotions, one is speaking from an usool of Islam and it’s tradition and scholarship the other is using common slanderous tactics opponents to so called madkhalis love to use. SubhanaaAllah

    • @ayubma3635
      @ayubma3635 9 месяцев назад +2

      Did you even understand what they were saying

    • @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim
      @Prayformetobeagoodmuslim 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@dawah.salafi akhi the ummah is upon huge ignorance that’s why ppl are saying Daniel won lololloooll I’m so confused as to how anyone with real Islamic knowledge would say such a thing…this is just proof Muslims today are guided by emotions instead of the shariah sadly(May Allah guide us all) if we want victory of Palestine we need a leader like shamsi not Daniel to be honest. Shamsis aqeedah doesn’t change because his aqeedah is for Allah and his messenger, whereas if Daniel was to become imam of the Muslims he would support so called madkhalis just to stay in power(therefore changing his kharijite aqeedah not for the sake of Allah but to stay in power)…SubhanaaAllah it just goes to show how sincere the salafi dawah is we wanna please Allah not the ppl no matter how many of them they are

    • @AbuInayaAl-Athari-po3yj
      @AbuInayaAl-Athari-po3yj 9 месяцев назад

      Daniel is a Khariji. Its people like you who have 0 clue of manhaj that believe he won this debate. Daniel got exposed and he used imaam Albani as an example for criticizing the rulers. Hes a clown for even using such a foolish argument. You should also know Daniel praises deviants like the Deobandis who are sufi graveworshippers and his teachers are isis supporters who call for bloodshedding

  • @hermano6793
    @hermano6793 9 месяцев назад +8

    Whys Shamsi obsessing over the label rather than the core issues ascribed to those given that label. Weak and insecure behaviour I'm disappointed.

    • @sairamsriram
      @sairamsriram 9 месяцев назад

      Because words have meaning. 'Sect' must have a defining usool that separates it from the rest.

    • @hermano6793
      @hermano6793 9 месяцев назад

      @@sairamsriram label does not necessitate sect by the way and this does not answer why he avoided getting to the crux of the matter and discussing the core ideological points that brought about the discussion in the first place.

  • @billywankenobii
    @billywankenobii 9 месяцев назад +102

    Shamsi is a showman wallahi may allah guide him and us all

    • @MarkazAlHaqq
      @MarkazAlHaqq 9 месяцев назад

      Back your accusation with daleel before opening your mouth. Your adaab is unislamic. Don't show your ignorance

    • @billywankenobii
      @billywankenobii 9 месяцев назад +1

      @moneyxl00 He already lost half of his credibility when he rejected the fact that Hamas is the reason Isreal is attacking Gaza which is a very Zionist argument and could never imagine a muslim from my country as well to say

    • @CR7Update
      @CR7Update 9 месяцев назад

      And Daniel is a absolute jaahil. Can't even speak Arabic and he walks around like he has some authority

    • @AbilovRamin
      @AbilovRamin 9 месяцев назад +13

      Dont think so. He gave good points. May Allah guide Brother Daniel and all of uss.

    • @ShakeOneOfficial
      @ShakeOneOfficial 9 месяцев назад +2

      Shamsi was digressing from the beginning

  • @DrawWithHalima
    @DrawWithHalima 9 месяцев назад +5

    We wish that the meeting would end better than that. I respect the two brothers and I love the work they do for Islam. May Allah guide us all to the right path

  • @Xzs88
    @Xzs88 9 месяцев назад +2

    I remember that shamsi used to say that
    (we should test the Muslims beliefs)
    This is exactly what happened to Sheikh Othman Farouk.
    shamsi said,
    “We want to know his belief.”
    like there no one Muslim except shamsi

  • @suhaybalmesmary6417
    @suhaybalmesmary6417 9 месяцев назад +5

    Daniel: is it ok to be an agent? Yes or no
    Shamsi: i will answe, but bla bla bla !!!
    Daniel: is it ok to criticize the rulers? Yes or no
    Shamsi: i will answer but bla bla bla!!!
    ________
    At the end of the conversation.
    Daniel: again is it ok to be an agent? Yes or no?
    Shamsi: You said in your post bla bla!!!
    SHAMSI: YOU ARE EXPOSED BY DANIEL.

  • @Harris19941
    @Harris19941 9 месяцев назад +5

    this video just perfectly sums up the state of our ummah and why we are so weak to help Palestine
    and i primarily blame it on the certain salafi sects that dont want to unite with anyone except their own little group

  • @moneyslaves
    @moneyslaves 9 месяцев назад +16

    AS ALWAYS MUSLIM SHAMSI FIGHTING MUSLIMS

    • @noneya3969
      @noneya3969 9 месяцев назад +10

      Correcting Muslims. Don’t be a fool

    • @atravellerindunya4433
      @atravellerindunya4433 9 месяцев назад

      You ikhwanis are the number 1 reason Muslims are dying everywhere. Shamsi is a thorn in your side.

    • @moneyslaves
      @moneyslaves 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@noneya3969 DONT INSULT, ITS HARAM.

    • @user-bg2fe2jy5h
      @user-bg2fe2jy5h 9 месяцев назад +2

      bro this is aquida so aquida first that will unite us to be strong

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@moneyslaves
      As he should. Anyone of ahlul Bidah should be fought against.
      Why would you have a problem with that?

  • @algedafiabdullah6701
    @algedafiabdullah6701 8 месяцев назад +2

    Daniel is great on this 😂
    Viva Daniel 💪🏻

  • @k.r.6800
    @k.r.6800 9 месяцев назад +2

    Shamsi got cornered on Palestine and the rulers. He got a taste of his own medecine

  • @RR-qq3jo
    @RR-qq3jo 9 месяцев назад +11

    Shamsi has gone to the shits lately. Daniel has debated so many people Shamsi wouldn't ever get too and he act like he can't debate. I still don't know why Shamsi can't answer the question.

    • @binmanbinman
      @binmanbinman 9 месяцев назад +1

      Because Daniel digressed from the original point. It’s not that Shamsi “can’t answer the question” when he has multiple times, it’s that Daniel can’t stick to a topic and digressed from it.

    • @RR-qq3jo
      @RR-qq3jo 9 месяцев назад

      @@binmanbinman the beef between them is can you criticise the leaders. Not anything else. Where is the answer? Shamsi pulled it out his arse yet?

    • @hamzanocap
      @hamzanocap 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@RR-qq3joYour defending Daniel accusing Shamsi of being a propaganda agent for governments? Curse be upon you and other liars.

  • @MuslimResponder
    @MuslimResponder 9 месяцев назад +3

    if you are calling someone Khiwarj be prepared to be called a boot licker

  • @ShakeOneOfficial
    @ShakeOneOfficial 9 месяцев назад +9

    Win for Daniel Haqiqatjou

  • @amohammed6226
    @amohammed6226 9 месяцев назад +11

    Oh mighty Allah, bless brother Daniel and his family and give them success in this life and in the hereafter, ameen

  • @denohart4929
    @denohart4929 9 месяцев назад +4

    Bruh Daniel is not fit for this 😂 needs to stick to debating porn addicts

    • @emerald7857
      @emerald7857 9 месяцев назад +1

      And yet it’s Shamsi who was flustered and deflecting

    • @denohart4929
      @denohart4929 9 месяцев назад

      @@emerald7857 nope not deflecting at all, I know Shamsi yells but one of his good abilities is to stay on topic. Daniel quoted Diddu as scholar who is a sufi, with clear mistakes in Aqeedah.

  • @karim19smile
    @karim19smile 9 месяцев назад +8

    Glory be to God, Brother Daniel speaks calmly and has a beautiful way of communicating, unlike Shamsi, who feels as if he wants to win by force and screaming as if he is in a barbaric wrestling ring, even in his debates.

  • @knowledgeofimportantissues2364
    @knowledgeofimportantissues2364 9 месяцев назад +1

    We are left to a time where people like shamsi think that they are learned in the deen while his teacher Abu khadija can’t recite Quran

  • @welcome2islam756
    @welcome2islam756 9 месяцев назад +1

    Okay next step to agree to disagree, shake hands and start over without needing to expose each other inshaAllah

  • @MS-Hussain
    @MS-Hussain 9 месяцев назад +4

    Masha Allah brother Daniel

  • @Krim-zp8km
    @Krim-zp8km 9 месяцев назад +6

    Shamsi is not letting Daniel Speak whenever Daniel starts spekaing Shamsi interepts him saying No No No¡.

    • @hl8302
      @hl8302 9 месяцев назад

      Bcoz he trying to change the topic instead of answering the Q.

  • @GieraZzZ
    @GieraZzZ 9 месяцев назад

    May Allah guide you brother shamsi shake you brothers hand…. Subhan Allah

  • @ThePolemicist786
    @ThePolemicist786 9 месяцев назад +3

    People: Responding to shami's question
    Shamsi: * interrupts * you're eh eh digressing
    Typical shamsi tactics

  • @thebeardedgeek8018
    @thebeardedgeek8018 9 месяцев назад +31

    Shamsi got schooled just runs behind 'define define, show evidence'

    • @MrPressure
      @MrPressure 9 месяцев назад +17

      I mean isn't that how it goes? As a muslim shouldn't you be able to provide evidence. If shamsi is able to, why cant he? Why is shmasi held to a different standard?

    • @saj5297
      @saj5297 9 месяцев назад +1

      He learnt that from Jordan Peterson 😂

    • @noneya3969
      @noneya3969 9 месяцев назад +4

      Ya Shia and Kharijis hate evidence. Y’all love to follow your desires

    • @asl43n5
      @asl43n5 9 месяцев назад +8

      well without evidence you cant prove what u claim.

    • @thebeardedgeek8018
      @thebeardedgeek8018 9 месяцев назад

      You all just sad that Daniel schooled the babbering Shamsi

  • @sub7se7en
    @sub7se7en 9 месяцев назад +6

    Seems shamsi keeps strawmanning him. He didnt come off very well.

  • @gemici810
    @gemici810 8 месяцев назад +1

    I saw shamsi defending saudi arabia. This is the country that don’t let Yemen help gaza. And defenders of Israel.

  • @MM-gu5tj
    @MM-gu5tj 9 месяцев назад +17

    THIS SHOWS AND TELLS US THAT OUR SINCERITY HAS BEEN AFFECTED

  • @AbilovRamin
    @AbilovRamin 9 месяцев назад

    That Omar in the end 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @underberg3007
    @underberg3007 9 месяцев назад +22

    damn bro shamsi is straight outta the gate😂 masha allah

  • @samirhachad643
    @samirhachad643 9 месяцев назад +7

    No, he's not digressing when he was asking you "can you criticize rulers" THAT IS THE MAIN TOPIC