I just installed Ryzen 7 5800x3d. First I had on CPU stress ~80°C temp even with watercooler. After these settings it dropped to 70°C. CPU cores are stable and everything works fine. It was useful. Thank you so much for this video. And the video is short no shit talking. Guys this video will help you 100%.
I am 1 minuite into the video and i had no other choice but to pause and thank you for making a great video, in 1 minute you were able to display the issue, explain it and visualize it. Not many people are able to do that. Hats off. subscribed.
Thank you very much for this kind comment. I am trying to do my best to share my knowledge and experience, and to grow a channel/community. But now, seeing such a positive, inspiring and motivating feedback, I feel that I have (and want) to make something even better next time. Thank you!!!
@@FroznHood❤If i do NOT have Curved optimizer, does it make sense to adjust the PPT TDC AND EDC Limits like you did? Because I have an asus prime a 320m-k Mainboard, and cannot find the curved optimizer.. Thanks alot ❤
I had my 5800X3D running at -25 all-core for a few months. Yesterday, after watching this video I set up and tested the CPU to run at -30 all-core, with your 100-70-100 you showed as the limits. JUST WOW, the temperatures are way lower, and the 100W limit definitely helps on that. I did some load and stability testing using Cinebench and OCCT extreme, and I saw that I did indeed win the silicon lottery, the CPU runs stable as a rock, the clock speeds attained with my MasterLiquid Lite 240 AIO were stable, no more thermal throttling and spikes in clock speeds, as the CPU barely went to tempretures of 80 C. During gaming, it never goes above 75 C, barely gets to 72 or 73 degrees, and runs at a stable 4.5GHz clock speed. In OCCT extreme tests, it was stable at 4.4GHz, and in Cinebench it stabilized at 4.35GHz after a bit. It did lose some points in Cinebench compared to my previous PBO settings which did not have the custom limits, but it is day and night in both gaming perfomance and in thermals and power consumption. I recommend everyone with such a CPU try these settings and adjust to their liking. I found that your settings in the video work well for me. I may be able to set the limits a tad bit higher, but it does not seem it will be worth it... Great video overall
of all the videos about undervolting the 5800x3d on RUclips, and man did I watch a ton of them, this is the best one. Thank you for explaining it without keeping the secret for yourself, for not being mysterious by showing results, thank you for your professionnalism.
A tip for MSI users - mostly older MSI mother boards (B450 etc) - you might not find PBO feature in the BIOS itself - but you can find "Kombo Strike 3" option in the Overclocking/advanced CPU settings, which will give you 1 / 2 / 3 options - translating to an offset of 10 / 20 / 30 respectively.
I have a question if I did what he said in the video changing curve optimizer to -30 and the PPT to 100 tdc to 70 and edc 100 and also use kombo strike "3" will that setting over lap or mess up anything ?
just got this cpu and ran it for the first time and tried it out and was damn near reaching its TJ max temp of 90C degrees but, just by under volting the cpu by 30 offset brought it down a whopping 30C degrees along with adjusting my cpu fan curve. Thank you so much and ill definitely take free fps for less power strain on the system 👍
Thank you so much for the straight forward video, I have applied the same exact values on my Ryzen 7 5800X3D and temps are perfect. On full load it sits on 70c degrees and idle 35c degrees without lossing performance. Greetings from Costa Rica! Note: a few cores made it to 4.5gz
@@straightbrutality9264just to be sure, i had those greyd out also, but i just had to click it and put the nmbr with keyboard. Like there wasnt any ui change after i clicked those.
@@Cyyderdude, you are the first person to tell me this, and it worked lol. Man. Do you think these settings are the best 100 ppt, 70 tdc, and 100 edc? Or can I also put it more?
Just slotted a 5800X3D into my X570 MEG Unify (replacing a 3600). Have a ThermalRight Dual-Fin Peer-less Assassin 120SE (Saw GN rave on about it a while back) - did the pea + dots in corner methods for thermal paste. Will give this undervolting a go and see how it all works. Thanks for this! I love my X570 MEG Unify, I didn't want to jump up to AM5. 5800X3D will keep me going for years to come.
@@decliningship4208 tbh, my idle temps are around 33-37oC, and it doesn't go above 60oC when gaming, so i haven't touched voltage yet. In a cinabench r23 test, it got up to 78, but never above that.
@@dwine1122 sorry buddy, missed your reply. I'm at 33-37oC idle, and always under 60oC when gaming, always in the 70oC range during cinabench r23. That is without undervolting. So haven't messed with voltage yet.
i'm planning on getting this cpu aswell, i only play games like rust, ow, csgo, r6 and im thinking in getting the thermalright was im using a 1700 stock one rn, im afraid of undervolting as idk how to do any of this and what will happen if i do it wrong, do u think i should be fine with no undervolt? i play all low 1080p and stream with my gpu from time to time
I set offsets to -25 and did the other setting you recommended now I’m getting 20-30 fps boost consistently. Thanks brother! My cpu is now running at 40-50 Celsius degrees while gaming and 20-25 Celsius while idle/ browsing etc. The combo like other said is the true winner!
I will say ever since I slotted my 4090 in my build the 5800x3d has risen by about 5-10 Celsius but it’s still performing like a champ and clocking at 4.4 ghz +
Some advice for people having trouble enabling SAM or "re-sizeable BAR": not only could it be named something different in your BIOS, but even after updating the BIOS and chipset drivers you could see the option "greyed out" or unavailable in the settings. In my case it was because another feature in the boot settings needed to be disabled first to be able to use resizable BAR (AMD CBS or CPS I think it was called). So make sure to look up the settings for your specific motherboard! for my Asrock above the greyed-out option it had a line of text saying the option that needed to be disabled but it's easy to miss. Also use the tuning software that is meant for your motherboard if available. The exception is the AMD chipset driver installer. In my experience the AMD chipset installer provided on the motherboard support page is often out of date or gives an error, so I would use the official installer from the AMD website, which will scan your system and install the appropriate drivers anyways, you don't need motherboard-specific software for that. Same for AMD graphics drivers, get them direct from the AMD website.
I think you meant CSM (compatibility support module) which is needed only for some older devices, 32bit OS and if not using GPT partitions. On some systems mixed with old hardware or an old installation from an older system running with MBR it is needed to be acitvated. But it's incompatible with resizable Bar -> so make sure it's on GPT -> CSM disabled -> check/activate above 4G decoding - >set re-Bar to enabled or Auto (2+3 depending on your boards manufacturer) -> check driver if working.
Followed some other guys "tutorial" which was pretty much setting an offset under the voltage settings. Which was hella unstable with clock speeds dipping a lot and temps not really dropping. But after finding your vid and properly setting things under curve optimizer my clock speed is stable at 4.45mhz no dips or anything with lower temps really insane. Thanks bro 👍
Thank you sir. I applied your settings and gained a few degrees, while reducing my fan speed and also gaining clock speed. That's crazy. my b550M ds3h rev 1.4 doesnt support on bios curve optimizer, so I had to use PBO2 Tuner and make a task to start it on user log on with custom arguments "-30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 100 70 100 0". Works perfectly. Thank you again, my 5800x3d runs great while quiet now
Really appreciate this. With my B550 steel legends latest bios, I am at -30 all cores (did not do a lot for temps and just a small performance gain). However, combined with ppt, tdc and edc limits, I am seeing a reasonable increase in boost and all core of around 200 mhz. My temps have gone from say 90C on prime 95 to around 70C! Power usage has dropped significantly too. VERY efficient chip now. I have been testing for 2 weeks in benchmarks and general use. ZERO downsides and no loss in stability. So nice to be able to do this in bios and lock in the settings. The combo here is really the winner - don't just undervolt!!
I bought this cpu and was running almost every game at 90c. I looked into reducing temps, found undervolting solution but every video wanted me to download 5 programs and had 30 minute tutorials so I put it off for 2 months lol. Wish I would have found your video earlier. Thanks for making it so simple. Originally this took my temps from down about 5 degrees but it would still peak at 90. My back fan is broken so I knew that was causing problems. I added a 2nd fan (pull) to my cpu cooler and boom I'm now getting temps in the 60s and peaking at 77 even with that broken back fan. Huge difference for me thanks man. Now I can stop heating my bedroom in the summer.
I came back here to thank you for the video! I got the best results with -20 all core and the sets of 100/70/100 as shown. I linked this tutorial in the last video on my channel. Thank you so much!
got around the same increase but was hitting +1c, might've been timing but it's only 1%. Though, the performance difference didn't really seem to do much on Warzone and will probably only mean something on cpu-preferred games.
Thanks for the video. I am using -25 all cores, 100 PPT, 70 TDC, 100 EDC and 80 Temp limit. Got best score on Cinebench with these figures. I have a budget cpu air cooler, so everytime my temperature was sitting at 90 when playing. Now I play without any worries.
friend, I already commented thanking you. and I'm coming back to thank you again. I did exactly the same PBO configuration months ago and it's still perfect. It reduced the temperature a lot, maximum 73 degrees. measure 65 degrees. and maintaining all the power of the 5800X3D. Researching, I discovered that the 5800X3D supports up to RTX 4080 with 100% GPU usage. Thank you again. hug from Brazil.
To be honest I was disappointed with the heat of this CPU...until I watched this! Even with my 280mm AIO temps were usually around 77 while gaming. This is hands down the quickest and easiest thing I ever did to get better performance and lower temps. Never thought I'd see my chip running so cool (just above 62 degrees while intense gaming), and seemingly locked at 4450mhz constantly. Thanks so much!! You are a legend
I have a 360 rad so temperatures have never been an issue, set the offset to -30 and the all core settled at 4.45Ghz on a 30min stress test, great results man
Great video. You’ve completely transformed my CPU experience. Whereas before I had concerns, now I have nothing but a pleasant sense of achievement, with precisely the method you described. Anyone watching this video with an 5800X3D, do this immediately.
Having tried this.. oh wow! What an amazing difference you've made to my thermal issues. Upgraded from an r5 3600 to 5800x3d and using a cheap ac freezer 7 pro cooler.. 3 heat pipes and not enough for a 5800x3d.. but.. Having applied your power inputs.. wow! Have gone from bouncing off 90c to 80c with more ghz to boot. Thank you! You' saved me 130 pounds, not buying a noctua. ❤
Wanted to throw in my thanks here. The curve alone gave me a 275MHz across all cores on prime95 at the same 90c. When I applied 100-70-100, I dropped back to 4000 at 70c. I tweaked it a little further to 110-83-110 and that gave me 4250 across all cores at 81c, which I'm more than happy with. I'm able to single boost a core up to 4.45 at 70c while gaming STALKER Anomaly which is an old title that is single threaded. good stuff, thank you!
PPT, TDC, and EDC was grey out for me but I turned off SMT and set the -30 for the curve optimizer since the pc was for gaming. Temps drop 16c so I was running at 54.3c and maintained 4450 MHz clock speeds Edit: Even though its greyed out you can still click on it and type a value. Applied all the settings and got a 7c reduction in temps and my cinebench score went up 200 for multicore. I turned smt back on for this.
Thank you for the video. I settled on -25 with 100 70 100 per your video on a 5700x3d and achieved ~ -5-10c degree reduction in gaming and a higher cinebench score.
Great video and straight to the point. A note for others running MSI motherboards: For MSI motherboards, update to the latest BIOS version. The undervolting is called KOMBO strike. It is listed in 3 levels: 1, 2, and 3 which equal -10, -20, and -30 all core undervolt. I was stable at all core -30 with now over 6 months of stability testing and gaming. CPU runs at a boost clock of 4450 consistently and runs around 60-70c on a 360 AIO in most games. On benchmarks like Cinebench it never hits 80c.
You don't put any values, just select the KOMBO level. Please note that KOMBO is not the same as Curve Optimizer, even though in some cases it may achieve similar result.
I've already chose Kombo Strike 3 but for other settings I only have PPT setting on my motherboard (MSI B550-A PRO AMD AM4). I don't have TDC and EDC. Is there any way to reach these other 2 options?
I have no words to thank you! Straight to the point, no frills, and using the same settings as in your video for my Aorus Elite X570 Motherboard. I did the -30 for curve optimization and 100 -70 -100. Under full load on Lies of P with all graphics settings on Best, I didn't go beyond 58ºC (my cooler is the Peerless Assassin 120 Black, I've also used the Noctua NH-2 as thermal paste). I'm consistently hitting 144fps with my MSI 4070 Super 12GB O.C. Edition and 32GB of Corsair RAM at 3200MHz. I take my hat off to you.
Thank you so much for this video. This changed my temps drastically in a good way and even increase to performance since the cpu hits constantly 4450 mhz. 😊
Passando pra agradecer pela dica do video, apliquei no meu setup e de fato houve uma melhora significativa nos frames e redução da temperatura, os clocks se mantem quase fixos em 4450mhz PC Specs: R7 5800X3D X570i ROG Noctua N9A (aguardando a vinda do novo gabinete para substituir pelo Noctua D15) 2x16GB 4600c18 2x2TB Kingston nv2 Raid 0 RX 6700 XT FE (aguardando a vinda da RTX 4070 TI) CM NR200 CM V850 SFX
caraca, 4600 nas memorias! to pensando em testar essa dica do video p baixar a temp do meu ryzen 5800x3d. Acha que tem algum risco? minha mobo eh uma b550m asus tuf gaming plus, 2x16gb ddr 3600c16 fury renegade e uma rtx 4060ti.
@@Papac0 risco algum, o máximo que pode acontecer é vc perceber a placa mãe tentando ligar e não conseguir estabilizar o CPU aí ele liga em safe mode (o post da BIOS vai te avisar que ligou em safe mode pois não conseguiu subir com as configs anteriores) aí na configuracao da otimizacao da curva onde o cara do vídeo estou -30 ele alerta que caso não fique estável no seu setup vc vai baixando para -25 ou -20 Aqui no meu caso estabilizou no -30 porém essa x570i gaming tem uma certa vantagem mas vai fundo que vai dar bom na sua tuf Minhas memórias são as Corsair vengeance RT (otimizadas para Ryzen) ficou brabo pra jogar, fluido de mais O próximo passo agora é tentar espremer as latência ou subir um tequinho a frequência das memórias, o máximo testado segundo o qvl da Asus na série 5000 foi de 4800mhz mas nas especificações técnicas posso chegar ao máximo de 5100mhz Talvez eu teste isso e grave um vídeo só pra deixar registrado e depois volte a segurança do xmp pois já tá ótimo...
muito obrigado pela resposta, me encorajou a fazer o procedimento! quando eu chegar do trabalho irei testar, vou me inscrever no teu canal para acompanhar!@@octavioperes
@@Papac0 agradeço a inscrição, acompanha que eu vou compartilhar um pouco de conhecimento e boas práticas sobre ti no geral e também vou subir uns gameplay
voltando aqui pra agradecer! testei com os parametros do video e, aparentemente, os melhores resultados que consegui, pelo menos jogando cs2, foi com -20 all cores e os limites de 100/70/100 (exatamente como no video). em breve vou gravar um video sobre o novo pc e o desempenho no cs. @@octavioperes
@@nytdrxy7146 Yes, I'm still using these settings. Performance is higher than the default. I'm not sure if this is the best solution for every processor, but I read on the forums that many people are doing great with them.
Awesome tutorial! Guys if something doesn't work for you, be sure to update your BIOS to the newest available version! I was constantly crashing on old bios. Couldn't undervolt more than -10. When I updated BIOS to the newest possible, -30 and PPT TDC EDC are running smooth as butter, not a single crash and my temperatures went down by 20°C!
For anyone with an msi board its alot easier to do this in your bios just look for kombo strike and put it on level 3 its the same as curve optimiser -30 its a one click solution mine runs cooler and clocks higher
I have 5800x3d w/ASUS b550f. I can set the -30 on all cores and have no issue, but the bios won’t let me change PPT TDC or EDC, it is fixed on “auto” any suggestions?
First thank you both for responding! I have clicked in the boxes and tried to change the value but the curser does not enter the value box or blink and typing numbers does nothing, I will try again after work but am confident it will be the same, it’s frustrating that the option seems to be right there but being unable to change the values.
Hats off mate. No bullshit, straight to solution. My idle temps went down from 70 to 45-40 celcius, low settings ow2 and cs2 are at over 400 and 600 fps with temperatures capped at 55 max. Thank you.
Is it simple, because the CPU dont need all that specifications of limits like 142W of PPT, just need 100W to achieve your maximum performance. I did it on my 5800X3D, except on curve optimizer because my motherboard dont have this setting, then i does in app PBO Tuner. In cinebech increased 400 points and cpu-z 200, the frequency keep stable and the temperature decrease. Is it very worth for those that has 5800X3D and suffer with high temperature.
@@LeFFerGaming My is B450M Gaming BR, but this settings are hidden by default, but if i search manualy this settings apear. On you B550 of msi i think that the Kombo Strike should help a bit, its worth you try. Have some videos on yt speaking about this.
Cpu's boost algorithm works based on temperatures. If you reach certain temps it starts to downclock frequencies until the temps are acceptable.limiting power/voltages will get better temps, thus allowing the cpu to boost higher and longer..
Thank you!! I did all this and cinebench23 all core test temperatures dropped from 90.5 to 81! And score was much better also and now my computer is silent. 5/5
Did follow your settings on bios. -30 on all cors + plus I decided to under volt CPU by 1.000. (I didn’t mess with ppt, Tdc, edc left them on Auto) currently my 5800x3d 4550mhz all the time stable with no dips on speed. Temps top 72c the avg 68c. Thanks! Just a recommendation if any wants to get those results make sure to update your bios to the latest, and download your latest motherboard chipset driver 👍
Thank you for your comment. Just to add something, when you upgrade an AMD CPU, always uninstall the old chipset driver and and only then install the latest from the AMD official site and not from the motherboard support page (where usually it is not the latest version). In other worlds, do not try to install the newer chipset driver over the older. Regarding BIOS, install only stable (final) versions and not Beta versions. And, update your BIOS only when it is needed.
@@FroznHood My 5800x3D coming tomorrow, I have the 2700x now and I updated my Bios. Should I uninstall the chipset driver right now, what's the best way to do it? and just the chipset driver or there is anything else? thank you! I appreciate you.
This was a game changer. My Ryzen 7 5800x3d was running at about 85C at 100% load, and now it’s running at about 73C with minimal or no performance loss in games. My fans are much quieter as a result and my room doesn’t get so toasty anymore
Thanks ! Very helpful, easy to understand, no need to use PBOTuner 2 like another link I had before watching this video, Didn't know about ppt, TDC and EDC so thank you again
Hey there! Used this guide and I have big (as it appears) instability issues, yet I really want this implemented as having low temps is important in my current setup. I am playing Path of Exile and that only, and at everything I have tried - it always crashes at some point (without PBO it never crashes). Things In have tried: Curve optimizer -30/-25/-20/-15 with ppt:100, tdc:70, edc:100 Curve optimizer -30 with no limits. At all of these I was getting my game crashed, please help me out, how do I work with this one so it gets stable and I get my temps down? Thanks to everybody in advance.
You must be sure that other settings are not breaking the stability. You can try with full reset of the BIOS and after that applying the settings from the video. If that doesn't help, it is just your CPU unit that can't handle these settings. Sometimes that happens.
@@FroznHood Hey there, I had my BIOS fully reset before doing the settings. I was just curious if making negative offset lower to numbers like -10 or lower would still make it work for me, and maybe make it somewhat stable, is it worth trying to do that? or it only should bring more instability? I am just trying to find something that could work for me to make temps just a little lower
The only way to find out is to perform your own tests. Every CPU unit is different and reacts differently to voltage settings. -10 CO may or may not make a positive difference. Just try it.
For me minus 25 on all cores without touching any other thing it runs stable at 4450mhz and on lower temps. I heard minus 30 offset can harm your cpu in longer distances.
I've always heard that undervolting cant hurt your components because if it doesn't get enough power it will just shut down. I run -25 as well because my chip wasn't stable at -30
i read a lot of rumors about -30 on all cores harmed 5800x3d. In longer terms. like 1 year or so. I seen that like 3 times already so im not risking that. Yes every chip is different but im not taking the chance haha
Thanks !! 😍 My setup: MB Aorus Elite X570S + 5800X3D + Dark Rock Pro 4 NB: the Ryzen Master doesn't show the curve optimizer settings. Thus, as you well explained, everything has been done in the BIOS. R23 Multi (120min runtime) → Stock version: 13906 score & temp around 82°C PBO-30 + 100 PPT, 70 TDC, 100 EDC: 14533 score & temp around 74°C Conclusion: decrease the temperature of 8°C + slightly increase the global performance since the bost freq was perfectly stable @4.45GHz on all cores. Again a big thank for the clear and easy HowTo. 👍👍
at -30 my pc crashed, lowered to -25 and with all your other settings it's going great. Thank you so much because your settings made me lower the temperatures by about 7/8 degrees. Simple and exhaustive video, you have all my admiration. Thanks :)
I've been running negative 30 all cores in PBO for some time and it really helped to bring my temps down. Now setting 100/70/100 has brought my temps down by another 5c, but I've lost 300 points on my Cinebench score and CPU only boosts to 4300, previous was 4400.
As I have said it here many times, the Cinebench score doesn't represent gaming performance. use Cinebench for stability testing only. Test the performance with games and nothing else. If you need an optimization for heavy multi-core tasks, this is a completely different case.
I’m am running the 5800x3d with a negative -30 curve all core 100PPT 70TDC 100EDC On Cinebench 2024 I scored a 877 on multi core vs 872 stock settings and a 94 single core vs 93 stock settings.also boost was staying pretty much consistent at 4.5GHZ Very small margin but slightly better scores while using less voltage. Also ran prime95 for a while with zero warnings and zero errors. Pretty happy with the results overall. As for thermals during prime95 it never goes over 75c where as before changing the power settings it was hitting 83-85c.
That is awesome tutorial and it works perfectly fine with my 5800X3D with B550 motherboard. I tested my CPU in R23 and the score is the same and temps are -10 degrees !!! Like holy moly man I love you for this video :)
Excellent video and very easy to see how to undervolt. My 5800x3d during the gaming is maximum 53C which is incredible. I just used the same settings as you and it works as a charm. Thank you
GG bro, after the setup, i saved the config and i didn't really saw any change on temp but after launching a gaming, I saw big change, an offset to -30 and my cpu running from 60-70 in game to 50-45 celsius, real og mate
This video is extremely informative. In case this helps anyone, in my case you needed to go into the "extreme tweaker" in the asus bios to find the proper settings. I went from hitting 90c and throttling on prime95 to hitting a max of 70c with all cores at 4450mhz frequency. I am using a 360mm AIO and was always curious as to why it "wasn't enough" to keep the chip at a lower temperature during gaming but it turns out all I needed to do was undervolt. Thanks for all the help.
Thank you for this helpful video, I upgraded from 5600x and my temps from playing Warzone 2 was averaging 75-80, whereas with my 5600x it was cooler,, I’ll try these settings.
Thank you for the tutorial!!! Stock settings load I’m running at 78C, and with your tweaks @-30 max load is at 64C on cinebench. I’m on a x470 w/Deepcool LS720 Aio
Thank you, gonna give these settings a go as even at idle it runs 48c and at 48-58c during working on documents and browsing. Seems insane when paired with an Arctic Freezer II and seated well (did it twice lol) with MX-6
Although I had no trouble with temps on stock (up to 73, with Phantom Spirit 120 SE), clocks couldn't go higher than 4250 mhz. Applied your settings (30 negative all cores, 100 70 100) and together with CPPC enabled and CPPC Preferred Cores disabled, under AIDA64 Extreme stress test, temps are now up to 66 - 67 and clocks are on 4450 mhz. Stable! So thanks a bunch, you helped an absolute noob undervolt his cpu and drain that extra 200 mhz out of it.
Bruh, what did you do to my CPU?!? It's now running with a package power of 60-70W and die temp of 60-70C air cooled in game with as many or more frames than before. The CPU fan doesn't even reach max RPM. Dark forces are at work. Thanks!! ❤ The 5800X3D is godly, even today.
Been using the same mediocre(at least I thought it was) MSI air cooler since 2017. 5800x3d user for almost a year now. I usually do heavy rendering and high performance gaming stuff. Never seen the 5800x3d above 67 degrees celsius. Just do what it says in the video for your own sake. Great informative material.
Wonder if anyone has ever done studies on wear and tear by undervolting. I'm no electrical engineer but I did stay at a holiday inn and I know most electronics are designed to operate within a certain voltage range. When you dip the voltage you increase the amps and that can damage equipment. Like having brown outs and trying to start electrical motors or AC units. During a heat wave a few years ago I was monitoring my wall voltage and it was sagging down into the low 100's or high 90's. My AC would not kick on and electricians did mention the strain and wear on electronics when trying to run them with too low of voltage. Clean proper voltage is what helps the most keep electronics working long term not starving them of voltage but making them run hard on top of it.
I have made comments under a few of these videos cautioning against doing this undervolting (at least to the extent people are recommending). I don't think your specific concern however is the problem since the total wattage supplied to the CPU does decrease significantly at every "mapped" frequency point. Obviously as you know, if the amps increased as well there would be telltale issues with heat generation and higher than expected wattages amongst other things. But the real problem is that this undervolting is linear, meaning that the relative undervolt at low (light workload) frequencies is much larger than it is when the CPU is running at the maximum clock speeds that its algorithms allow it to run at. So you will end up with the CPU producing amazing results when running flat out but then being unstable, especially when the workload all of a sudden goes from medium or high to low or idle. Basically it is no longer being fed enough power at those lower frequencies even though it is perfectly fine at full throttle. Since there is presently no way to "re-map" every single voltage frequency datapoint on a Rtzen CPU at the present time, any undervolt needs to be very conservative. To give you an example, nearly all these videos suggest minus 30 to minus 20. In my case (four CPUs tested thus far), I can only get to around minus 4 or 5 before stability at low frequencies become a problem. Yet all four CPUs pass at minus 30 with flying colours if I follow the advice in all these vidoes. As I have said elsewhere, if it seems too good to be true then it usually is. If every AMD CPU could undervolt to the extent recommended in videos like these, AMD would simply have sold them as faster CPUs to begin with. I would opine that AMD know far more about this stuff than the undervolters do!
I just installed Ryzen 7 5800x3d. First I had on CPU stress ~80°C temp even with watercooler. After these settings it dropped to 70°C. CPU cores are stable and everything works fine. It was useful. Thank you so much for this video. And the video is short no shit talking. Guys this video will help you 100%.
Thanks for watching and the feedback.
@@FroznHood do you have a link for the tool ?
What tool?
@@MadaVaddaYou don't need any tool. Go to you BIOS by turning on PC and clicking delete button until it opens you BIOS.
@@FroznHood the tool from the video , because ryzen Master looks dificult to me... your toll in the Video looks so much better
You just hitting straight to the points no drama no unnecessary info you earned a new sub bro
Thank you!
I am 1 minuite into the video and i had no other choice but to pause and thank you for making a great video, in 1 minute you were able to display the issue, explain it and visualize it.
Not many people are able to do that. Hats off. subscribed.
Thank you very much for this kind comment. I am trying to do my best to share my knowledge and experience, and to grow a channel/community. But now, seeing such a positive, inspiring and motivating feedback, I feel that I have (and want) to make something even better next time. Thank you!!!
@@FroznHood❤If i do NOT have Curved optimizer, does it make sense to adjust the PPT TDC AND EDC Limits like you did? Because
I have an asus prime a 320m-k Mainboard, and cannot find the curved optimizer.. Thanks alot ❤
@@user-nc4ls4ed1l update bios, i have the same one as you and i can use curve optimizer
Hi, I'm from Brazil and I followed all the paths you taught on the 5800X3D and it turned out great. performance and temperature. thank you very much!
I had my 5800X3D running at -25 all-core for a few months. Yesterday, after watching this video I set up and tested the CPU to run at -30 all-core, with your 100-70-100 you showed as the limits.
JUST WOW, the temperatures are way lower, and the 100W limit definitely helps on that. I did some load and stability testing using Cinebench and OCCT extreme, and I saw that I did indeed win the silicon lottery, the CPU runs stable as a rock, the clock speeds attained with my MasterLiquid Lite 240 AIO were stable, no more thermal throttling and spikes in clock speeds, as the CPU barely went to tempretures of 80 C. During gaming, it never goes above 75 C, barely gets to 72 or 73 degrees, and runs at a stable 4.5GHz clock speed. In OCCT extreme tests, it was stable at 4.4GHz, and in Cinebench it stabilized at 4.35GHz after a bit. It did lose some points in Cinebench compared to my previous PBO settings which did not have the custom limits, but it is day and night in both gaming perfomance and in thermals and power consumption.
I recommend everyone with such a CPU try these settings and adjust to their liking. I found that your settings in the video work well for me. I may be able to set the limits a tad bit higher, but it does not seem it will be worth it...
Great video overall
i'd recommend trying corecycler and ycruncher if you really want to dial those in
Thanks man this really works like a charm. I'm now running under 75°C during stress testing. My cooler is a Peerless Assassin.
of all the videos about undervolting the 5800x3d on RUclips, and man did I watch a ton of them, this is the best one. Thank you for explaining it without keeping the secret for yourself, for not being mysterious by showing results, thank you for your professionnalism.
A tip for MSI users - mostly older MSI mother boards (B450 etc) - you might not find PBO feature in the BIOS itself - but you can find "Kombo Strike 3" option in the Overclocking/advanced CPU settings, which will give you 1 / 2 / 3 options - translating to an offset of 10 / 20 / 30 respectively.
What does that mean? Negative voltage offsets?
@@PowerAnjohn it will apply an offset to the curve, as you'd do in PBO tuner
OMG thank you for this! This was so easy and useful to do. I instantly went to 3, so hopefully it holds, if not 2.@@ahojekk3229
I have a question if I did what he said in the video changing curve optimizer to -30 and the PPT to 100 tdc to 70 and edc 100 and also use kombo strike "3" will that setting over lap or mess up anything ?
Pbo is already in msi bios for b450
just got this cpu and ran it for the first time and tried it out and was damn near reaching its TJ max temp of 90C degrees but, just by under volting the cpu by 30 offset brought it down a whopping 30C degrees along with adjusting my cpu fan curve. Thank you so much and ill definitely take free fps for less power strain on the system 👍
Thank you so much for the straight forward video, I have applied the same exact values on my Ryzen 7 5800X3D and temps are perfect. On full load it sits on 70c degrees and idle 35c degrees without lossing performance. Greetings from Costa Rica!
Note: a few cores made it to 4.5gz
Great explanation. It's the first time I've ever had this explained so easily.
Thank you!
Great video, already had all cores -30, but setting custom power limits was indeed worth it now
My rog strip wouldn’t let me set my custom power limits unfortunately. They were greyed out in my bios.
@@straightbrutality9264Maybe you Need to Update Your bios. Within the First builds it wasnt supported
@@TheRealDrazarmy bios is updated to the most recent update.
@@straightbrutality9264just to be sure, i had those greyd out also, but i just had to click it and put the nmbr with keyboard. Like there wasnt any ui change after i clicked those.
@@Cyyderdude, you are the first person to tell me this, and it worked lol. Man. Do you think these settings are the best 100 ppt, 70 tdc, and 100 edc? Or can I also put it more?
Just slotted a 5800X3D into my X570 MEG Unify (replacing a 3600). Have a ThermalRight Dual-Fin Peer-less Assassin 120SE (Saw GN rave on about it a while back) - did the pea + dots in corner methods for thermal paste. Will give this undervolting a go and see how it all works. Thanks for this! I love my X570 MEG Unify, I didn't want to jump up to AM5. 5800X3D will keep me going for years to come.
Hey how did it go for you since I also have the exact same parts as your except for the motherboard. How the temperature?
Did it work
@@decliningship4208 tbh, my idle temps are around 33-37oC, and it doesn't go above 60oC when gaming, so i haven't touched voltage yet. In a cinabench r23 test, it got up to 78, but never above that.
@@dwine1122 sorry buddy, missed your reply. I'm at 33-37oC idle, and always under 60oC when gaming, always in the 70oC range during cinabench r23. That is without undervolting. So haven't messed with voltage yet.
i'm planning on getting this cpu aswell, i only play games like rust, ow, csgo, r6 and im thinking in getting the thermalright was im using a 1700 stock one rn, im afraid of undervolting as idk how to do any of this and what will happen if i do it wrong, do u think i should be fine with no undervolt? i play all low 1080p and stream with my gpu from time to time
I set offsets to -25 and did the other setting you recommended now I’m getting 20-30 fps boost consistently. Thanks brother! My cpu is now running at 40-50 Celsius degrees while gaming and 20-25 Celsius while idle/ browsing etc. The combo like other said is the true winner!
what cooler??
@@bradhaines3142 believe it or not enermax aquafusion 360 adv. The older Enermaxs had issues but this new adv version is great.
I will say ever since I slotted my 4090 in my build the 5800x3d has risen by about 5-10 Celsius but it’s still performing like a champ and clocking at 4.4 ghz +
@@sales.angelperez i think he was asking what cooler are you using to see such low temps on your 5800x3d
That’s the name of the cooler ^ Enermax
Some advice for people having trouble enabling SAM or "re-sizeable BAR": not only could it be named something different in your BIOS, but even after updating the BIOS and chipset drivers you could see the option "greyed out" or unavailable in the settings. In my case it was because another feature in the boot settings needed to be disabled first to be able to use resizable BAR (AMD CBS or CPS I think it was called). So make sure to look up the settings for your specific motherboard! for my Asrock above the greyed-out option it had a line of text saying the option that needed to be disabled but it's easy to miss. Also use the tuning software that is meant for your motherboard if available. The exception is the AMD chipset driver installer. In my experience the AMD chipset installer provided on the motherboard support page is often out of date or gives an error, so I would use the official installer from the AMD website, which will scan your system and install the appropriate drivers anyways, you don't need motherboard-specific software for that. Same for AMD graphics drivers, get them direct from the AMD website.
I think you meant CSM (compatibility support module) which is needed only for some older devices, 32bit OS and if not using GPT partitions. On some systems mixed with old hardware or an old installation from an older system running with MBR it is needed to be acitvated. But it's incompatible with resizable Bar -> so make sure it's on GPT -> CSM disabled -> check/activate above 4G decoding - >set re-Bar to enabled or Auto (2+3 depending on your boards manufacturer) -> check driver if working.
Be aware to no activate it if you have a mix of gpt/mbr disks and disable csm. I end up booting continuously in bios because it found no disk to boot.
@@thierrybo6304 Right, but in that case you cannot use re-bar. As I said, if using non GPT partitions it won't work without CSM.
@@thierrybo6304 y en caso de tener una combinación de discos GPT/MBR, cual seria la solución para utilizar SAM? reinstalar los discos? Gracias
Did this for my 5700X3D, idle temps went from 55C all the way to hovering around 46-48C, great guide
Followed some other guys "tutorial" which was pretty much setting an offset under the voltage settings. Which was hella unstable with clock speeds dipping a lot and temps not really dropping. But after finding your vid and properly setting things under curve optimizer my clock speed is stable at 4.45mhz no dips or anything with lower temps really insane. Thanks bro 👍
Thank you sir. I applied your settings and gained a few degrees, while reducing my fan speed and also gaining clock speed. That's crazy.
my b550M ds3h rev 1.4 doesnt support on bios curve optimizer, so I had to use PBO2 Tuner and make a task to start it on user log on with custom arguments "-30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 100 70 100 0". Works perfectly. Thank you again, my 5800x3d runs great while quiet now
Really appreciate this. With my B550 steel legends latest bios, I am at -30 all cores (did not do a lot for temps and just a small performance gain). However, combined with ppt, tdc and edc limits, I am seeing a reasonable increase in boost and all core of around 200 mhz. My temps have gone from say 90C on prime 95 to around 70C! Power usage has dropped significantly too. VERY efficient chip now. I have been testing for 2 weeks in benchmarks and general use. ZERO downsides and no loss in stability. So nice to be able to do this in bios and lock in the settings. The combo here is really the winner - don't just undervolt!!
I did -30 all core and didn't touch anything else and getting 4.54 - 4.89
Did you end up using the same settings for ppt, tdc and edc?
@@xjj_96 identical to the settings in the video. All runs flawless and super efficient for me.
Your avatar is amazing. And your comment is inspiring and helpful. Edit - I’ve literally just done the same and it’s amazing. The difference is huge!
@MR_Garage it's not working for me. I have a asrock b550M Steel legend. Can you guide me through please? Any other options that we need to change?
I bought this cpu and was running almost every game at 90c. I looked into reducing temps, found undervolting solution but every video wanted me to download 5 programs and had 30 minute tutorials so I put it off for 2 months lol. Wish I would have found your video earlier. Thanks for making it so simple. Originally this took my temps from down about 5 degrees but it would still peak at 90. My back fan is broken so I knew that was causing problems. I added a 2nd fan (pull) to my cpu cooler and boom I'm now getting temps in the 60s and peaking at 77 even with that broken back fan. Huge difference for me thanks man. Now I can stop heating my bedroom in the summer.
I’d highly recommend getting all of your fans working 100%.
I came back here to thank you for the video! I got the best results with -20 all core and the sets of 100/70/100 as shown. I linked this tutorial in the last video on my channel. Thank you so much!
Thank you very much for watching the video and the feedback. I am glad that you managed to achieve good results.
This was the best undervolting guide that I have came across. I am hitting 14942 in cinebench compared to the stock 14061. Thank you so much
got around the same increase but was hitting +1c, might've been timing but it's only 1%. Though, the performance difference didn't really seem to do much on Warzone and will probably only mean something on cpu-preferred games.
Thanks for the video.
I am using -25 all cores, 100 PPT, 70 TDC, 100 EDC and 80 Temp limit. Got best score on Cinebench with these figures.
I have a budget cpu air cooler, so everytime my temperature was sitting at 90 when playing.
Now I play without any worries.
Thanks for watching and I am glad you have achieved better results with the CPU.
What cooler do you please use?
@@josefkadlec7874 Coolermaster Hyper 212 Spectrum
Be quiet Dark Rock 4
@@FroznHood what would be the best settings if you have a top tier cooling system?
friend, I already commented thanking you. and I'm coming back to thank you again. I did exactly the same PBO configuration months ago and it's still perfect. It reduced the temperature a lot, maximum 73 degrees. measure 65 degrees. and maintaining all the power of the 5800X3D. Researching, I discovered that the 5800X3D supports up to RTX 4080 with 100% GPU usage. Thank you again. hug from Brazil.
Easy and straight to the point. Thank you for the help man :3
:3
Tried these setting, it's working like a charm. Ty
Can they improve stuttering or will they make it worse?
To be honest I was disappointed with the heat of this CPU...until I watched this! Even with my 280mm AIO temps were usually around 77 while gaming. This is hands down the quickest and easiest thing I ever did to get better performance and lower temps. Never thought I'd see my chip running so cool (just above 62 degrees while intense gaming), and seemingly locked at 4450mhz constantly. Thanks so much!! You are a legend
Huh?? I got an air cooler running at 50 celcius with the 5800x3d, but my clocking speed wont go to 4.5, even tho I have set it on the bios
Thank you so much for the tips. I was hitting 80c on cinebench R23, now is hit 70c and with high scores too
I have a 360 rad so temperatures have never been an issue, set the offset to -30 and the all core settled at 4.45Ghz on a 30min stress test, great results man
thank you very much! Now i love my 5800X3D even more :)
Thank you very much man. With that settings i dropped my temp from 79-80 to 66-68 in BF2042 and i won arround 15 fps. You are an hero.
çok oynayınca işlemciyle hata vermeye başlıyor oyunlardan atıyor
You need to try different settings as explained in the video.
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Great video. You’ve completely transformed my CPU experience. Whereas before I had concerns, now I have nothing but a pleasant sense of achievement, with precisely the method you described. Anyone watching this video with an 5800X3D, do this immediately.
Thank you for watching and the feedback! 😀
@@FroznHoodI’m linking your video wherever I can on Reddit etc. forums for 5800x3d
Thank you!😀
Having tried this.. oh wow! What an amazing difference you've made to my thermal issues. Upgraded from an r5 3600 to 5800x3d and using a cheap ac freezer 7 pro cooler.. 3 heat pipes and not enough for a 5800x3d.. but.. Having applied your power inputs.. wow! Have gone from bouncing off 90c to 80c with more ghz to boot. Thank you! You' saved me 130 pounds, not buying a noctua. ❤
I am glad you have achieved better results! Thanks for watching. 😀
I have a noctua, and i had to do it anyway 🤣
just get a basic 240-280 aio
240mm from deepcool the marrs is perfect if you are running the x3d chip
@@mrcactuar8515on my D15 it'll hover 80-85c on heavy load. i do live in a warmer area though
I just bought my cpu and havent installed it yet. Glad to have found your video and it will help me out this weekend when i get my cpu up and running.
ginna buy mine next week,ive got a 5600 atm
Awesome video, straight to the point with very useful information. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Wanted to throw in my thanks here. The curve alone gave me a 275MHz across all cores on prime95 at the same 90c. When I applied 100-70-100, I dropped back to 4000 at 70c. I tweaked it a little further to 110-83-110 and that gave me 4250 across all cores at 81c, which I'm more than happy with. I'm able to single boost a core up to 4.45 at 70c while gaming STALKER Anomaly which is an old title that is single threaded.
good stuff, thank you!
PPT, TDC, and EDC was grey out for me but I turned off SMT and set the -30 for the curve optimizer since the pc was for gaming. Temps drop 16c so I was running at 54.3c and maintained 4450 MHz clock speeds
Edit: Even though its greyed out you can still click on it and type a value. Applied all the settings and got a 7c reduction in temps and my cinebench score went up 200 for multicore. I turned smt back on for this.
just click on it and enter a value its weird
Couldn't figure out why I couldn't switch the values from auto. Thanks for this!
Thank you for the video. I settled on -25 with 100 70 100 per your video on a 5700x3d and achieved ~ -5-10c degree reduction in gaming and a higher cinebench score.
Great video and straight to the point. A note for others running MSI motherboards:
For MSI motherboards, update to the latest BIOS version. The undervolting is called KOMBO strike. It is listed in 3 levels: 1, 2, and 3 which equal -10, -20, and -30 all core undervolt. I was stable at all core -30 with now over 6 months of stability testing and gaming. CPU runs at a boost clock of 4450 consistently and runs around 60-70c on a 360 AIO in most games. On benchmarks like Cinebench it never hits 80c.
Hi! So help me out - I should just put "-30" in level 3 to make it work?
You don't put any values, just select the KOMBO level. Please note that KOMBO is not the same as Curve Optimizer, even though in some cases it may achieve similar result.
Damn I was thinking of going water but I do better with a scythe mugen. Also fm research I've done you get better temps with 240.
I've already chose Kombo Strike 3 but for other settings I only have PPT setting on my motherboard (MSI B550-A PRO AMD AM4). I don't have TDC and EDC. Is there any way to reach these other 2 options?
@@mehmetkolsuz4139 I would like to know this information too. I Hope someone can help us out?
I have no words to thank you! Straight to the point, no frills, and using the same settings as in your video for my Aorus Elite X570 Motherboard. I did the -30 for curve optimization and 100 -70 -100. Under full load on Lies of P with all graphics settings on Best, I didn't go beyond 58ºC (my cooler is the Peerless Assassin 120 Black, I've also used the Noctua NH-2 as thermal paste). I'm consistently hitting 144fps with my MSI 4070 Super 12GB O.C. Edition and 32GB of Corsair RAM at 3200MHz. I take my hat off to you.
Thank you for your comment and feedback.
got 20 more fps, thanks a Lot the explanation is top tier.
Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback.😀
Thank you so much for this video. This changed my temps drastically in a good way and even increase to performance since the cpu hits constantly 4450 mhz. 😊
Passando pra agradecer pela dica do video, apliquei no meu setup e de fato houve uma melhora significativa nos frames e redução da temperatura, os clocks se mantem quase fixos em 4450mhz
PC Specs:
R7 5800X3D
X570i ROG
Noctua N9A (aguardando a vinda do novo gabinete para substituir pelo Noctua D15)
2x16GB 4600c18
2x2TB Kingston nv2 Raid 0
RX 6700 XT FE (aguardando a vinda da RTX 4070 TI)
CM NR200
CM V850 SFX
caraca, 4600 nas memorias! to pensando em testar essa dica do video p baixar a temp do meu ryzen 5800x3d. Acha que tem algum risco? minha mobo eh uma b550m asus tuf gaming plus, 2x16gb ddr 3600c16 fury renegade e uma rtx 4060ti.
@@Papac0 risco algum, o máximo que pode acontecer é vc perceber a placa mãe tentando ligar e não conseguir estabilizar o CPU aí ele liga em safe mode (o post da BIOS vai te avisar que ligou em safe mode pois não conseguiu subir com as configs anteriores) aí na configuracao da otimizacao da curva onde o cara do vídeo estou -30 ele alerta que caso não fique estável no seu setup vc vai baixando para -25 ou -20
Aqui no meu caso estabilizou no -30 porém essa x570i gaming tem uma certa vantagem mas vai fundo que vai dar bom na sua tuf
Minhas memórias são as Corsair vengeance RT (otimizadas para Ryzen) ficou brabo pra jogar, fluido de mais
O próximo passo agora é tentar espremer as latência ou subir um tequinho a frequência das memórias, o máximo testado segundo o qvl da Asus na série 5000 foi de 4800mhz mas nas especificações técnicas posso chegar ao máximo de 5100mhz
Talvez eu teste isso e grave um vídeo só pra deixar registrado e depois volte a segurança do xmp pois já tá ótimo...
muito obrigado pela resposta, me encorajou a fazer o procedimento! quando eu chegar do trabalho irei testar, vou me inscrever no teu canal para acompanhar!@@octavioperes
@@Papac0 agradeço a inscrição, acompanha que eu vou compartilhar um pouco de conhecimento e boas práticas sobre ti no geral e também vou subir uns gameplay
voltando aqui pra agradecer! testei com os parametros do video e, aparentemente, os melhores resultados que consegui, pelo menos jogando cs2, foi com -20 all cores e os limites de 100/70/100 (exatamente como no video). em breve vou gravar um video sobre o novo pc e o desempenho no cs. @@octavioperes
Thank You very much! I reduced temp by about 30° and gained performance with negative 25 setting. Legend!!!
thank you!
Been thinking about getting this processor recently. Will keep this video in mind. Thank you so much!
-30, ppt: 95, tdc: 60, edc; 90 - I use these, and my PC performs perfectly
Eu também fiz isso e funcionou bem! 😃
Still using these settings? Is it stable, are you losing any performance?
@@nytdrxy7146 Yes, I'm still using these settings. Performance is higher than the default. I'm not sure if this is the best solution for every processor, but I read on the forums that many people are doing great with them.
Awesome tutorial! Guys if something doesn't work for you, be sure to update your BIOS to the newest available version! I was constantly crashing on old bios. Couldn't undervolt more than -10. When I updated BIOS to the newest possible, -30 and PPT TDC EDC are running smooth as butter, not a single crash and my temperatures went down by 20°C!
For anyone with an msi board its alot easier to do this in your bios just look for kombo strike and put it on level 3 its the same as curve optimiser -30 its a one click solution mine runs cooler and clocks higher
def worked on my b450, thanks
Worked like a charm on my MSI x570. Immediate -10 deg on idle. Thank you!
Is it possible to set the power limits (ppt tdc edc) while using Kombo strike?
Thank you so much, from 80degress have now 45 constantly
I have 5800x3d w/ASUS b550f. I can set the -30 on all cores and have no issue, but the bios won’t let me change PPT TDC or EDC, it is fixed on “auto” any suggestions?
Are you sure that after selecting one of the settings it won't let you just type the value you want?
It looks greyed out but you can just type it in lol
First thank you both for responding! I have clicked in the boxes and tried to change the value but the curser does not enter the value box or blink and typing numbers does nothing, I will try again after work but am confident it will be the same, it’s frustrating that the option seems to be right there but being unable to change the values.
It may not blink but still allow you to enter values.
You both are exactly right, it did allow the change, thanks so much for your help!
Hats off mate. No bullshit, straight to solution. My idle temps went down from 70 to 45-40 celcius, low settings ow2 and cs2 are at over 400 and 600 fps with temperatures capped at 55 max. Thank you.
How limitation of PPT , TDC and EDC improve performance ? I don't understand.
Is it simple, because the CPU dont need all that specifications of limits like 142W of PPT, just need 100W to achieve your maximum performance.
I did it on my 5800X3D, except on curve optimizer because my motherboard dont have this setting, then i does in app PBO Tuner.
In cinebech increased 400 points and cpu-z 200, the frequency keep stable and the temperature decrease.
Is it very worth for those that has 5800X3D and suffer with high temperature.
@@Cehcscual placa base tienes tú?
Crees que yo podría en la mía (MSI B550 PRO WIFI)?
@@LeFFerGaming My is B450M Gaming BR, but this settings are hidden by default, but if i search manualy this settings apear.
On you B550 of msi i think that the Kombo Strike should help a bit, its worth you try. Have some videos on yt speaking about this.
Cpu's boost algorithm works based on temperatures. If you reach certain temps it starts to downclock frequencies until the temps are acceptable.limiting power/voltages will get better temps, thus allowing the cpu to boost higher and longer..
Thank you!! I did all this and cinebench23 all core test temperatures dropped from 90.5 to 81! And score was much better also and now my computer is silent. 5/5
Отличное очень информативное видео! Спасибо.
Well done my friend. Short, sweet and straight to the point! Big Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Did follow your settings on bios. -30 on all cors + plus I decided to under volt CPU by 1.000. (I didn’t mess with ppt, Tdc, edc left them on Auto) currently my 5800x3d 4550mhz all the time stable with no dips on speed. Temps top 72c the avg 68c. Thanks!
Just a recommendation if any wants to get those results make sure to update your bios to the latest, and download your latest motherboard chipset driver 👍
Thank you for your comment. Just to add something, when you upgrade an AMD CPU, always uninstall the old chipset driver and and only then install the latest from the AMD official site and not from the motherboard support page (where usually it is not the latest version). In other worlds, do not try to install the newer chipset driver over the older.
Regarding BIOS, install only stable (final) versions and not Beta versions. And, update your BIOS only when it is needed.
@@FroznHood My 5800x3D coming tomorrow, I have the 2700x now and I updated my Bios.
Should I uninstall the chipset driver right now, what's the best way to do it? and just the chipset driver or there is anything else?
thank you! I appreciate you.
I prefer to reinstall the AMD chipset driver after the CPU installation. Just make sure to make that properly as explained in my previous comment.
@@FroznHood yeah i messed this up by using ASUS site chopset instead of AMD website.
What is the parameter that I have to touch to put 1.000 in the bios?
This was a game changer. My Ryzen 7 5800x3d was running at about 85C at 100% load, and now it’s running at about 73C with minimal or no performance loss in games. My fans are much quieter as a result and my room doesn’t get so toasty anymore
For Ryzen 7 5700X3D??
Same settings
Same settings 😂
Thanks ! Very helpful, easy to understand, no need to use PBOTuner 2 like another link I had before watching this video,
Didn't know about ppt, TDC and EDC so thank you again
Thank you for watching and the comment.
Hey there! Used this guide and I have big (as it appears) instability issues, yet I really want this implemented as having low temps is important in my current setup.
I am playing Path of Exile and that only, and at everything I have tried - it always crashes at some point (without PBO it never crashes).
Things In have tried:
Curve optimizer -30/-25/-20/-15 with ppt:100, tdc:70, edc:100
Curve optimizer -30 with no limits.
At all of these I was getting my game crashed, please help me out, how do I work with this one so it gets stable and I get my temps down? Thanks to everybody in advance.
You must be sure that other settings are not breaking the stability. You can try with full reset of the BIOS and after that applying the settings from the video. If that doesn't help, it is just your CPU unit that can't handle these settings. Sometimes that happens.
@@FroznHood Hey there, I had my BIOS fully reset before doing the settings. I was just curious if making negative offset lower to numbers like -10 or lower would still make it work for me, and maybe make it somewhat stable, is it worth trying to do that? or it only should bring more instability? I am just trying to find something that could work for me to make temps just a little lower
The only way to find out is to perform your own tests. Every CPU unit is different and reacts differently to voltage settings. -10 CO may or may not make a positive difference. Just try it.
thanks man! I got 10 deg cooler in a game I play after adjusted the PPT, TDC, EDC and curve optimizer.
For me minus 25 on all cores without touching any other thing it runs stable at 4450mhz and on lower temps. I heard minus 30 offset can harm your cpu in longer distances.
I've always heard that undervolting cant hurt your components because if it doesn't get enough power it will just shut down. I run -25 as well because my chip wasn't stable at -30
@@Katjajaja i did not even try 30 offset. I was happy with my 25. I heard the same rumors!
What rumors have you heard? From whom?
i read a lot of rumors about -30 on all cores harmed 5800x3d. In longer terms. like 1 year or so. I seen that like 3 times already so im not risking that. Yes every chip is different but im not taking the chance haha
I've had my chip at -30 for quite a while now and have had no issues at all.
Thanks !! 😍
My setup: MB Aorus Elite X570S + 5800X3D + Dark Rock Pro 4
NB: the Ryzen Master doesn't show the curve optimizer settings. Thus, as you well explained, everything has been done in the BIOS.
R23 Multi (120min runtime) →
Stock version: 13906 score & temp around 82°C
PBO-30 + 100 PPT, 70 TDC, 100 EDC: 14533 score & temp around 74°C
Conclusion: decrease the temperature of 8°C + slightly increase the global performance since the bost freq was perfectly stable @4.45GHz on all cores.
Again a big thank for the clear and easy HowTo. 👍👍
Thank you for visiting the channel and the feedback. 😀 I am glad that you have managed to achieve these results.
For me only -15 are getting stable performance. Otherwise it reboots just by opening chrome
at -30 my pc crashed, lowered to -25 and with all your other settings it's going great. Thank you so much because your settings made me lower the temperatures by about 7/8 degrees. Simple and exhaustive video, you have all my admiration. Thanks :)
Good result. Thanks for the feedback.
I've been running negative 30 all cores in PBO for some time and it really helped to bring my temps down. Now setting 100/70/100 has brought my temps down by another 5c, but I've lost 300 points on my Cinebench score and CPU only boosts to 4300, previous was 4400.
As I have said it here many times, the Cinebench score doesn't represent gaming performance. use Cinebench for stability testing only. Test the performance with games and nothing else. If you need an optimization for heavy multi-core tasks, this is a completely different case.
You sir helped me fix my temp issues, liked n subbed
I’m am running the 5800x3d with a negative -30 curve all core 100PPT 70TDC 100EDC
On Cinebench 2024 I scored a 877 on multi core vs 872 stock settings and a 94 single core vs 93 stock settings.also boost was staying pretty much consistent at 4.5GHZ
Very small margin but slightly better scores while using less voltage. Also ran prime95 for a while with zero warnings and zero errors. Pretty happy with the results overall.
As for thermals during prime95 it never goes over 75c where as before changing the power settings it was hitting 83-85c.
the best video of optimization for ryzen 7 5800x3d.
thanks
Thank you!
That is awesome tutorial and it works perfectly fine with my 5800X3D with B550 motherboard. I tested my CPU in R23 and the score is the same and temps are -10 degrees !!! Like holy moly man I love you for this video :)
I don't have such a line. asus b550m-k.where did you find these parameters?
Try using the search option :PPT limit, TDC limit, EDC limit, curve optimizer sign, all core curve optimizer magnitude
You are a GOD in my 👁️ holy crap. Went from microstutter with my 7900xt to buttery smooth. Thank you kind Sir
Excellent video and very easy to see how to undervolt. My 5800x3d during the gaming is maximum 53C which is incredible. I just used the same settings as you and it works as a charm. Thank you
I have the same Mb brand, I just copied your settings exactly and my 5800x3d got a significant drop in full load temps. Thanks for this video!
GG bro, after the setup, i saved the config and i didn't really saw any change on temp but after launching a gaming, I saw big change, an offset to -30 and my cpu running from 60-70 in game to 50-45 celsius, real og mate
thanks for the video, earlier on the b550 tomohawk there were no pbo limits with a bios update added. Thanks to your video, I found out
Tried your settings and wow the temps just went from toasty to cool, and performance wise it was better than before
This solved all my temperature problems, thank you for this video man
I have fixed my stuttering problems when playing and increased the fps. Thank you.
This video is extremely informative. In case this helps anyone, in my case you needed to go into the "extreme tweaker" in the asus bios to find the proper settings. I went from hitting 90c and throttling on prime95 to hitting a max of 70c with all cores at 4450mhz frequency. I am using a 360mm AIO and was always curious as to why it "wasn't enough" to keep the chip at a lower temperature during gaming but it turns out all I needed to do was undervolt. Thanks for all the help.
Thank you for this helpful video, I upgraded from 5600x and my temps from playing Warzone 2 was averaging 75-80, whereas with my 5600x it was cooler,, I’ll try these settings.
Thank you for the tutorial!!! Stock settings load I’m running at 78C, and with your tweaks @-30 max load is at 64C on cinebench. I’m on a x470 w/Deepcool LS720 Aio
Very good result. It means that during gaming it probably runs even cooler.
Finally thank you for your hard, and indepth work what u did there was a master piece of an advice for the new owner of R7 5800X3D
Thank you, gonna give these settings a go as even at idle it runs 48c and at 48-58c during working on documents and browsing. Seems insane when paired with an Arctic Freezer II and seated well (did it twice lol) with MX-6
Although I had no trouble with temps on stock (up to 73, with Phantom Spirit 120 SE), clocks couldn't go higher than 4250 mhz.
Applied your settings (30 negative all cores, 100 70 100) and together with CPPC enabled and CPPC Preferred Cores disabled, under AIDA64 Extreme stress test, temps are now up to 66 - 67 and clocks are on 4450 mhz. Stable!
So thanks a bunch, you helped an absolute noob undervolt his cpu and drain that extra 200 mhz out of it.
Great video, this worked on my 5950x!, more fps and lower temp. Thank you so much!
Bruh, what did you do to my CPU?!? It's now running with a package power of 60-70W and die temp of 60-70C air cooled in game with as many or more frames than before. The CPU fan doesn't even reach max RPM. Dark forces are at work. Thanks!! ❤ The 5800X3D is godly, even today.
I am glad you have achieved good results. 😀
Epic tutorial man, keep up the great work =D
Thank you!
Exactly the video i needed thank you 👍🏻
Thank you too!😀
@@FroznHoodhi can I use these settings with kombo strike 3 in the bios or will that clags with these thanks
thank you! I went from 85c before undervaulting and now im getting mid to high 60s
Thanks for this video, i will make the tests and back here to share with u guys
I made the tests today
And this help me a LOT
My temps before 85~80C in gaming
Now max 65C
I needed to update my bios to show this options
Best video ever, straight to the point
Thanks a lot
X470 boards don't have curve optimizer in BIOS. I still did the power adjustments though and it seems to still be a positive impact.
thank you for great and short video! it was really good and useful. i got - 9C on CPU with better perfromance
Been using the same mediocre(at least I thought it was) MSI air cooler since 2017. 5800x3d user for almost a year now. I usually do heavy rendering and high performance gaming stuff. Never seen the 5800x3d above 67 degrees celsius. Just do what it says in the video for your own sake. Great informative material.
Thx bro. Mines 10 in cinebench 23. You are the best!
Thank you!!!! very helpful!
Wonder if anyone has ever done studies on wear and tear by undervolting. I'm no electrical engineer but I did stay at a holiday inn and I know most electronics are designed to operate within a certain voltage range. When you dip the voltage you increase the amps and that can damage equipment. Like having brown outs and trying to start electrical motors or AC units. During a heat wave a few years ago I was monitoring my wall voltage and it was sagging down into the low 100's or high 90's. My AC would not kick on and electricians did mention the strain and wear on electronics when trying to run them with too low of voltage. Clean proper voltage is what helps the most keep electronics working long term not starving them of voltage but making them run hard on top of it.
I have made comments under a few of these videos cautioning against doing this undervolting (at least to the extent people are recommending). I don't think your specific concern however is the problem since the total wattage supplied to the CPU does decrease significantly at every "mapped" frequency point. Obviously as you know, if the amps increased as well there would be telltale issues with heat generation and higher than expected wattages amongst other things. But the real problem is that this undervolting is linear, meaning that the relative undervolt at low (light workload) frequencies is much larger than it is when the CPU is running at the maximum clock speeds that its algorithms allow it to run at.
So you will end up with the CPU producing amazing results when running flat out but then being unstable, especially when the workload all of a sudden goes from medium or high to low or idle. Basically it is no longer being fed enough power at those lower frequencies even though it is perfectly fine at full throttle.
Since there is presently no way to "re-map" every single voltage frequency datapoint on a Rtzen CPU at the present time, any undervolt needs to be very conservative. To give you an example, nearly all these videos suggest minus 30 to minus 20. In my case (four CPUs tested thus far), I can only get to around minus 4 or 5 before stability at low frequencies become a problem. Yet all four CPUs pass at minus 30 with flying colours if I follow the advice in all these vidoes.
As I have said elsewhere, if it seems too good to be true then it usually is. If every AMD CPU could undervolt to the extent recommended in videos like these, AMD would simply have sold them as faster CPUs to begin with. I would opine that AMD know far more about this stuff than the undervolters do!
Thanks brother I just got this CPU and this video is all you need to optimise it
Thank you so much! Temps dropped from 82 to 68 with a 240mm water cooler.