I applaud you for not going just by what the manufacturer says (like other influencers) and for taking the time to do your research and share it with us. Thank you! :)
This by far is my favorite device and I have seen so much lift from it. EMS has been around forever and when I went to esthetician school we treated with it and learned all about it. It’s definitely for the older gals. It’s a keeper and blows all the other devices I have out of the water. Love it. You probably won’t notice anything unless you need it. Like I said it’s not for the under 50 crowd.
I’m under 50. I’ve stumbled on this device bc I’ve been experiencing weak neck muscle issues. I am strength training my shoulder, neck, back area, but am looking into this to stimulate/massage my neck + back muscles. I’m confused/curious why you say it’s not for those under 50, when our muscles are still needing attention as we age under 50.
I had this device for 3 weeks now. I use it 2-3 times a week (on the lowest setting for now) I had fine lines on my forehead for forever and they are gone since I started using this (I had no problem using it on my forehead, I'd even say it's my favorite area to use it on). Hydration is not an issue, I have a pretty solid skincare routine, so I'm sure it's not the gel. Overall, my face is looking more 'sculpted' or 'snatched' for lack of a better word since I started to use it, so I definitely love it.
Every time I use it on my forehead it tingles in the back of my skull- does it do that to you as well? Other than that I love mine and I use it every other day.
Hi. I think you neglected the reason WHY ATP is reduced with EMS, and this is important because not all EMS is the same. The reason ATP is depleted with EMS is because the muscles are USING it when contracting. IF the stimulation is too strong (causing your muscles to twitch), your muscles are using al lot of ATP, which takes a longer time to be restored. However, EMS is not always that strong. The PureLift, (the device from the face gym you visited), has never caused my facial muscles to twitch and the manufacturer, The Recovery Lab, has a lot of information on their EMS, and why theirs increase ATP. As you noted, ATP does replenish itself continously. The key is the exertion to the facial muscles, or put differently, the aount of ATP that the device causes your muscles to use. If not overstimulated, less ATP is used, and since ATP can be increased through electrical stimulation, it is possible to increase ATP with EMS. The amount of ATP that can be stored is also limited, so increasing the skin's ability to produce ATP over time through electrical stimulation is also an important consideration. Per your battery analogy, the battery's capacity is limited. Increasing the batteries capacity to quickly charge is another consideration. The temporary use of the battery's energy isn't the only thing to think about. In the end, devices such as electrical stimulation (EMS AND microcurrent) and Red Light Therapy, aim to increase the skin's metabolism and function to act like younger skin. Microcurrent manufacturers love to mention ATP reduction, while never producing studies that show if A) all EMS devices reduce ATP just because they reach the muscles and B) that the ATP reduction is a long term deficiency.
I appreciate this! I will look in to the Recovery Lab-and I’ll definitely follow up on the nuances of EMS (I agree they are not all the same). I also agree that it’s much more complex than I outlined….a challenging subject to cover in one RUclips video. You’ve given me inspo to dive in even farther, thank you! 💜
I don't understand much in chemistry and the way our bodies work. However your comment made me think. If something is beeing used up our body is supposed to start actively start working on rebuild it. Just like microneedling, we damage the skin and our body throwing all the energy to fix it. On the other hand if we don't do anything it's just age and gets droppy.
@NA thank you for this explanation! I’ve seen other videos claiming that EMS increases ATP, so your explanation is helpful. So I can’t help but wonder: if ATP is being used because the muscles are being stimulated (as would happen with regular exercise), is it known whether ATP levels actually *increase* after a certain amount of recovery? Or are we just constantly depleting our ATP if we work out the face and body too hard? Does is never return to its homeostasis? Or is there the possibility that it does increase over time, with recovery? And then, if ATP is always used when a muscle is stimulated, wouldn’t even lower levels of stimulation ALSO use (deplete) ATP but maybe just at a lower amount? I am full of questions LOL. Thanks for the informative reply!
I agree with you. All skeletal muscles use up ATP when stimulated through use of them. I think the trick is that you have to eat a healthy diet and you need to add rest days, just like you do with exercising all of your other muscles. Your body will rebuild its ATP stores using up glucose from food and oxygen. I think you can overuse the device and fatigue your muscles, but everything in moderation.
Yes you are right. Also ATP is not something that becomes deficient over time. If you notice the people who go to gym and excersise are healthier than the ones that don’t. With time their body comes into sync with the supply and demand of nutrients required to achieve the more toned body. The depletion theory about ATP is a bit misleading by the companies.
If the decrease in ATP after using the device was harmful to the muscles, then we would not be able to go to the gym to lift a lot of weight and do a lot of sets. I don't think it's important to decrease ATP after using the device, because if there were muscle contractions of course ATP will decrease and then resynthesize.
Penny you are hands-down the most intelligent, informed, and balanced online Aesthetician I’ve ever come across and I’ve been looking for a long time. I’m so impressed by the way you approach your research and analysis. Thank you so much for yet another great video. I’m going to pass on this one. 🦋
perfect timing-I’m seeing so many reviews of these and was wondering if I should ditch my microcurrent for this and now I know. Thanks for being my favorite trusted, unbiased expert
I was about to buy this from Tatis video… but I thought you might have a discount code on it and wanted to give you the credit… did not realize I’d be taught such an important concept. THANK YOU
Hi Penny.. great video.. so much helpful information. I kind of feel like the question of depleted ATP for me, at age 72, is not a huge factor. I would personally love to see a better toned, plumper, more hydrated version of my skin . I like the idea of possibly more immediate results. If I were 20 years younger, however, I may be more inclined to give the depleted issue more thought. I am going to purchase this device. Thank you for your honesty and knowledge.
Love the way you really dig into these devices. It makes it so much easier for us to make the right decision!! Thank you so much that is so appreciated ❤️❤️
I heard the USA has to call it EMS but it’s called something different in Europe. Whatever it is it’s not allowed in the US. I personally would use it if I was in my late 60’s or early 70’s but I’m not destroying anything in my 40’s! Someone just commented that MC does the same thing and I’ve never heard that or experienced it. I’ve never heard of fat loss or anyones skin becoming more “droopy” the next day or two after using MC. Thanks so much for the videos! 💖
Also...in addition to NA....when a muscle is stimulated to the point that the cell needs more atp...the producers of atp...the mitochondria...can replicate and create more of themselves to the point that over time you have more producers of ATP...therefore more end product of atp. This is what all exercise does. However...the caveat is...muscle contraction creates more dynamic wrinkles.
Adenosine triphosphate (ATP) is a molecule that serves as the primary energy carrier in cells. However, it’s not directly related to EMS (Electrical Muscle Stimulation) facial devices. EMS devices work by delivering low-level electrical currents to stimulate facial muscles, which can lead to improvements in muscle tone and facial contouring. While ATP is essential for cellular energy metabolism, its levels in the skin are not typically influenced by EMS facial devices. EMS devices primarily target muscle stimulation rather than altering cellular energy metabolism.
I love this video, so imformative. When I first got into this world of skincare devices and before splurging on the myolift I purchased a few ems devices and they all gave me awful migraines within a few hours… it never failed. Once in awhile I use it on my lower face for a small amount of time so I’d have to strongly agree with not using devices like this anywhere near the eyes or forehead
I’m so glad I came across your post! I’m very prone to migraines and I used the “bear” and about an hr later I had a migraine. It also happened when I used the Nuface on a higher level. I bought the Myolift and it has been sitting in the box for a few months - I’m so nervous to use it. I thought I was crazy but I guess it can trigger migraines!
Hi, Penny! Would you say the same about the device today as you did a year ago? Curious if your thoughts have changed since this video or not. I love your channel, btw- you are so knowledgeable/helpful!
Love your videos very informative and real specially when it comes to KBeauty because I believe they are in another level when it comes to the beauty industry from skincare to at home devices , ATP proven to be reproduced after EMS just like when we exercise our body muscles , the only thing I would say is if you have facial fat loss in certain areas not to use it there or as often also make sure to adjust it on the lowest up setting not the slim or body mode … or simply to replace it with micro current devices … I use it on the lowest up setting once or twice a week on my jaws definitely saw a difference … any updates dear?
Truth Treatment device has both modes: microcurrent and EMS. It is VERY powerful. When I use it on my chin-neck, my shoulder is twitching. Device is not expensive and battery lasts for a long time. No need to buy a separate gadget just for EMS. Also, EMS doesn't do anything extra comparing to the results of microccurrent alone, you don't really need it, unless you like your face twitching like crazy. Neither microcurrent nor EMS can lift jowls.
I’ve just purchased the Truth Treatment one and still waiting on delivery, I’d been on the fence for so long trying to decide whether it’s worth it or not to purchase the Nuface as so many here on RUclips that have the Nuface and do reviews on that device are usually sponsored videos and they were given the Nuface to try and review, I’m always sceptical when that happens, whether to believe them or not, that’s mainly why I went with the TT one, most of the ones I follow on RUclips have all got the Nuface and I could only find one that reviewed the truth treatment device and she did an in-depth review of it which sold me on it, in your honest opinion, have you noticed a difference in your skin since using your truth treatment device, I’m 62 years young but don’t have much in the way of sagging jowls or neck, I mainly purchased it for those lines around my mouth area that come from down the nose, I can’t remember what they’re called, nasial folds or something like that. Would love to know your thoughts. ♥️♥️🇦🇺
I love how you use analogies. They are very helpful. I bought this device and it hurts my teeth. I may try some dental gauze next time. However, I am wondering if I should just stick to microcurrent, RF, microneedling and LED. Within the last year (I am 47), I developed jowls and a turkey neck. It has aged me 10+ years, and I am super depressed. In your chart, I see you dont even have EMS listed. For sagging jawline you list RF, microcurrent, microneedling and LED. I wish I could return my device but it said on the sides where the tape was that once the tape is broke it cannot be returned :-( I would rather put my money towards a quality RF device. Currently I am using the mini Hifu from LoveJoy off of amazon. Its a combo device with RF, HIFU and EMS.
I like the outcome of my 65 year old skin with EMS devices than just Microcurrent and I’ve been trying to debate with online articles if in fact EMS depletes ATP.. Very confusing some some say yes it does deplete whiles others states no it does not deplete and it can increase our ATP.. Skin studies has always fascinated me that is why I became an Esthetician.. My question is if EMS does deplete our ATP and Microcurrent increases our ATP like the Pico toner.. Why can’t we just use the the two devices if the outcome with EMS looks and works faster than Microcurrent?? I could use my Pico Toner to increase the ATP or my Myolift 600.. Would this method of using both devices as a cocktail work out so that we don’t have to worry so much about depleting our ATP with our EMS devices??
Thanks for another informative video, Penny. In the last couple of years my face and neck more and more resemble a shar pei despite everything I have done to take care of them. I’m kind of kidding here - but kind of not. I was using the NEWA but stopped about a year ago because I didn’t really see a difference. I’ve been interested in EMS but I think it would be wiser to leave it at my age (71) . I’d love it if there was something that really worked for my skin at my age to take away the wrinkles and laxity but I think the only thing now is either surgical or maybe an ablative full face CO2. If we’d only had all these wonderful things when I was younger.❤️
Thank you very much… I started Second guessing myself on the Omnilux Contour and Nuface.. I believe I will just continue with them. thanks again you are wonderful enjoy your journey in life and continue spreading sunshine
A really great informative video. East to fall into all the hype on a product but so important to analyze each expensive products and it’s benefits or negatives. Thank you!
Thank you Penny for reviewing Medicube products, I hear about them all the time on social and I’ve really been wondering! Looking forward to the other two product reviews coming up ♥️
Love gadgets but don't know where I would fit this in, I think I will stick with my micro current, radio frequency and microneedling. Thanks for the informative video.
Thank you for this very informative video! There’s a lot of hype out there with these devices and I’ve been searching for a more in depth and critical (as in objective) look at it. I also noticed some red flags on their site. There are a lot of videos out there saying EMS does increase ATP so I appreciate the studies you showed. It was also something I was wondering about. I can’t help but wonder, if this is meant to stimulate facial contractions as in exercise, why not just do targeted facial exercises? What’s the difference? Is there a benefit to a device that exercise would not provide?
Perfect timing. I have been thinking about adding EMS to my Newa and Myolift Mini routine. I have been wondering about the Lumo, if it is worth the expense of adding it in.
Thank you for this. We need to know the truth about our skin care. We all just believe at face value what people tell us. The truth is so nice for a change, and so helpful.
Great detailed relatable education. Yes, so many companies offer marketing“fudge”. Now I wonder about all this. I do have the LUMO and love the EMS. It also has red light at the same time which is supposed to boost ATP so hopefully offsets the initial loss of ATP from EMS? I don’t rely on the red light from the LUMO. I use a RLT mask most days of the week. But - Have I sucked into the hope of these devices? I have very few wrinkles and elasticity looks quite good for 64 yo, (except the jowl area. Keep hoping that will improve but know that hope is not science based). So part of me thinks…yeah..keep going with this routine. If ATP rebounds, that’s a good thing. It’s not permanently lost.
I realize EMS is popular, but it seems counterintuitive to me. I started preventative Botox more than 15 years ago, in an effort to keep muscles from engaging. Why would I use a device to engage the very muscles I’ve worked so hard to keep paralyzed? While there may be some benefits to the skin, there are myriad treatments and products that will provide the same. The reduction in ATP is enough for me to continue to say no. I am interested in the gel, though! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for this, Penn! Gonna pass on the device,but appreciate knowing that there’s another conductive gel that can be left on As skin care. I have been using the J Kosmmune spray toner forever to add a bit of betaglucan hydration to my microcurrent routine. So sad that The company seems to have folded.I have discovered the NuFace Hydrating Aqua gel and rehydrating it as needed, Love the push down dispenser!
Thank you for this! I’m curious about your thoughts on the claims that strengthening facial muscles with EMS and micro current DON’T help with sagging skin but instead just build muscle which just makes the face more angular. I used micro current regularly for 4 years and really saw no benefit to my skin, it really just seemed to make my thin angular face more thin and angular!…and so this theory makes sense with my experience…what do you think?
This whole talk about ATP being a question is like saying should you work out considering lactic acid will build up…. The answer is Yes, we all should :)
Exactly!!!! Im a physician. Goes back to basic biochemistry and the kreb’s cycle. Soooo…. I shouldnt work out because it will deplete my atp? Totally didnt understand why using up atp is a deal breaker???
Oh now I wish I had seen this earlier. I saw a video where the woman was saying it helped her TMJ. I get Botox in my masseters for TMJ and it does work for me but it’s so expensive. I sprang for this hoping a one-time expense would help cut down on the amount of times I needed to get my Botox refreshed. It sucks shelling out hundreds of dollars for Botox and still having wrinkles 😂😭 But if it makes Botox wear off quicker, I really made a boo-boo in purchasing it. Sigh. Well, I may try it on my knees and see if it does anything there. Thanks for the in-depth and understandable information.
I have TMJ and would be careful with ANY electrical device. I use the PureLift, which IS EMS, but I am careful on the masster( one side) that gives me a problem and also use the Shani Darden's wand to massage that masseter. You do NOT want to stimulate an overactive masseter. I did use Botox, last time a year ago, and am trying to maintain the result with the massage since Botox in the masseter's does cause bone resorption.
Thank you! Great information, I’ve noticed some companies use EMS and microcurrent interchangeably which is super confusing. Trophyskin BrightenMD is a customization choice in the fabfitfun fall box. I already use Nuface for microcurrent but thought it might be good to have a multifunctional device for travel. I sent Trophyskin a message asking if the device uses microcurrent or EMS, they said essentially they are the same but that the device uses EMS. Is using an EMS noticeably different than microcurrent? Can you actually feel and see the muscle contracting? I opted for Tripollar Rose because it didn’t have ELV and it was less expensive because possibly decreasing ADP doesn’t seem worth it to me. Thanks!
Thanks for tackling this issue! EMS is not for me. I don't believe it's good long-term and I even find microcurrent very zappy and uncomfortable. No way I could enjoy the stronger EMS.
Hi new subscriber here! I'd love to hear your thoughts on their ATS shot vs Gloow booster device! Since out of all the videos here, I trust you the most now!
Thank you so much for this informative video of yours. I was so tempted to buy all medicube devices for quite some time now since it keeps on showing up as ads and right now, they have the primrose colored devices but then, I stumbled with your video. I'm gonna really think it over then as I'm only in early 30s and don't want to lose ATP earlier than it supposed to be and also, I already have foreo bear to help my bell's palsy residue in my face and helps me whenever I get flare ups as well so, I'll stick to it for now then. Have you tried the medicube air shot and booster h devices? Is it worth it? Yay or nah? Thank you once again.
I am so glad you went through this and explained the science behind this! Thank you! One more device I can definitely pass on. But the gel is interesting. I use one gel, and do my NEWA and then my Nuface right after, only rehydrating the gel with water. Do you think this gel could be used for both RF and MC? Thank you for all you do!
I was just about to buy all 3 of those devices after seeing Tati recommendation when I saw how much was the cost of shipping to Australia and decided to check Korean suppliers. That's when I discovered that the cost of those devices anywhere else in the world is the cost that you can buy them in the US after applying 40% off discount from Tati. This means that they mark up the price and then give you a code to make it look like you are getting a great deal. What a messed up, unethical thing to do. This, in turn, makes me question all of their efficacy claims. If they are willing to bamboozle customers when it comes to the cost what else are they lying about? Not cool.
The prices in Canada are comparable to the US prices. I joined Medicube as an M-club member in order to get the 40% members' discount. When I received my EMS Shot, they also sent me full sizes of their Triple Collagen Toner and Reviving Peptide Eye Cream at no additional cost. Seemed like a decent deal to me.
@@martayoung2492 It's not a decent deal. You had to pay a membership fee to join their club to get a discount on a marked up product. You can get those devices from Korea for the price you paid after subscribing to their membership. It's unethical to mark up the price and then pretend that they are giving you a deal with either a discount code or membership.
To be honest, not surprised by this. Many of the reviews on their devices seem off / faked. Lots of 5 star reviews that say "just started using, not a lot of results yet but will update!" Etc. Plus some before and after photos that are clearly photoshopped. I do not trust this company at all.
@@sapphire8774 I ordered the age r ussera from Korea because I was curious, I've been using it since September. I can't say I've seen any results. I use a lot of devices pretty religiously, and when I added this one to my rotation there was no difference to my skin. I'm not going to fully dismiss it, because there is a possibility that my skin is at it's best thanks to the devices I was already using and maybe this can't do anything extra but I'm not going to bother with purchasing anything else from Medicube. Because I'm a big believer in technology when it comes to beauty I almost got fully sucked into this one. If they offered free shipping to Australia I would have dropped over 1k on those devices. Glad that the shipping fee made me think twice and do some more research which in turn led me to discover their unethical marketing behaviour.
I am definitely curious to see how it would help the upper arms just above the elbow and above the knees. If it creates a stronger contraction than the NuFace body, then it might be a great tool. Also, supplementing with creatine might be helpful with ATP stores, coq10, etc.. Experiments are fun.
If you wanted to try EMS on your upper arms or knees, it would be cheaper and easier to get a regular EMS device. You can get one under $50 on Amazon. It’ll definitely have you twitching!😁
Hi, did you do a review on either of the other two Medicube tools by chance? Thanks! The video was super helpful. I'm concerned about the ATP depletion. I'm wondering if the other tools do not cause that.
Hello, thank you so much for this information! Now, I have a question: do you know if that the same modality as the « EMS » (or « DMA » as they call it here in Europe) of the TriPollar Stop Vx? Using the device in that mode is not comfortable, but I do it because I think it is a « bonus », but if it’s not even that good… maybe I shouldn’t bother? (And had I known, I could have saved some money by buying the version with the same RF, but no DMA…)
Great question and one I would love to read some comments on as I also purchased this device particularly for the ems function but am now seriously considering whether I should be doing the extra ems or avoiding it.
Love everything about you and your channel! Sorry to be off-topic, but would you be so kind as to share info regarding your star necklace and also your moon necklace on past videos? I think they look so cool on you and I would love to capture some of your magic. Thank you so so much💕!
Hi Penny! Should we think of Time Master Pro in the same way? It has ultrasound but also EMS so overall, would it deplete ATP more than bringing benefits from the ultrasound?
Honestly I’m not sure. I think the TMP EMS is no where near as strong as the medicube device so it’s certainly a better option (although it’s ridiculously expensive). I think ultrasound has a lot of merit-and TMP definitely does have legit ultrasound. I think you’re ok Sara 💜
I like your channel but this time I need to disagree. There is really no science supporting that microcurrent boosts ATP production. On the other side we do know that our muscles atrophy with age. EMS is like a workout. It depletes your ATP. This is physiological. But as the muscle gets stronger it naturally will have more ATP. I have used medical EMS devices on my face. They are difficult to use because the electrodes for the face are small and tend fall off, but the results are beautiful + lasting. A stronger muscle will not shrink immediatly. In the End electricity is electricity. EMS is also a kind of microcurrent, but delivered in a pulsatile manner. I guess if anyone took the money and made a study comparing ATP levels in muscles after like 4 weeks of usage of a microcurrent vs. EMS - they would be the same
This makes much sense to me and is swaying me towards a primarily EMS device. Not clear though on why "comparing ATP levels in muscles after like 4 weeks of usage of a microcurrent vs. EMS - they would be the same". Wouldn't there be more ATP with EMS because more muscle needs more of it, thus producing it--or is it the same because baseline homeostasis is the same once muscle recovers?
Watching this once left me confused as to whether or not it would be beneficial for the face in the long run. ATP is what we want to build, right? So, if this depletes a little ATP per use... it sounds like it will negatively impact my face in the long run. However, your using it and you said you'd use it on other parts of your body. If your using it, is it that bad? I saw Tati a few days ago review this, I wasn't sure then. I feel like her have has lost some volume. Her skin looks good, but she doesn't seem to have as much fat in the cheeks. It sound like a good idea, but I don't know... maybe not. What I'd like to find is something that works on lifting the fascia. A device. I know there's fascia blasters and the Anma, but is there anything a little more powerful or targeted? On a side note, I'm very interested in the pore refining tool Medicube has and in what it does and how it works. I'm looking forward to your review on that. Thank you so much Penny, for doing these and all tge videos you put out. You've really help me a lot in making informed choices on devices and skin care. Hope you're having a wonderful and blessed week. 💖🌺
Personally I don’t think this is beneficial to the face long term. On other parts of the body the muscles are bigger and the skin is thicker so all around the strength isn’t as impactful (this is my opinion, and honestly I will be doing more research on EMS and body treatments 😊). Fascia is incredibly fascinating to me. I’m sure you do, but if not, you should follow Jane Mann here on YT and on Instagram. She’s incredible! 💜
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE thanks! I'm passing on this tool for sure. Although, I can't wait to see you research videos on EMS. Actually, I am not currently following Jane Mann. I will remedy that right now, lol! Thank Penny! 💖
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE I love the Jane Mann Lift by Neurotris. It is an Incredible microcurrent tool. I use it with my myolift 600 instead of the Pico-toner.
I love her Anma tool with myolift as well!! (I use it with myolift and also pico, so cool that it’s so versatile). Jane is just an amazing human inside and out. So glad you follow her too!
Great video! I love all of the research that you do and the studies you provide to back up their claims. Is this similar to the Truth Treatments Nrgy device? Have you done any reviews of that one?
Oh No - I am sitting here watching another of your great videos while I treat my face in EMS mode with the Evenskyn Lumo. What am I doing to my face? Should I stop? THX!
The EMS mode on the Lumo also includes RF + Red & Blue light. I believe these assist in ATP production. If my thinking is correct, it should balance out the ATP depletion effect of the EMS. I hope Penn will read this and correct me if I am wrong. I just started using the Lumo recently and just did my 2nd session. I like how quick and convenient the whole process is.
Hi I 1st wanna start by saying I trust what you say and I thank you for being honest and sharing with us, I was thinking of getting this product so I'm so glad I listen to your video, So with all being sad that means that you are no longer using this device, Correct? 😊 Also, when I saw your eyes jumping like that and twisting, nooooooo am a chicken, lol I do have my nuface Can I get that cream and use it with my Nuface? The question is what is good for tightening around the neck that is my main concern, Thank you so much love you You are awesome!🥰🤗🩶🫶🌷💐🌻
I applaud you for not going just by what the manufacturer says (like other influencers) and for taking the time to do your research and share it with us. Thank you! :)
Thank you. That means a lot to me!! I’m thankful you’re here 💜
This by far is my favorite device and I have seen so much lift from it. EMS has been around forever and when I went to esthetician school we treated with it and learned all about it. It’s definitely for the older gals. It’s a keeper and blows all the other devices I have out of the water. Love it. You probably won’t notice anything unless you need it. Like I said it’s not for the under 50 crowd.
Thank you. I just bought one in hopes it'll help with my old lady jowls.
@@trilbynhiss has it helped you? I’d love your feedback ♥️
@@trilbynhissany feedback pls
I’m under 50. I’ve stumbled on this device bc I’ve been experiencing weak neck muscle issues. I am strength training my shoulder, neck, back area, but am looking into this to stimulate/massage my neck + back muscles. I’m confused/curious why you say it’s not for those under 50, when our muscles are still needing attention as we age under 50.
@@trilbynhisshi has it helped? Thinking of buying it myself
I had this device for 3 weeks now. I use it 2-3 times a week (on the lowest setting for now) I had fine lines on my forehead for forever and they are gone since I started using this (I had no problem using it on my forehead, I'd even say it's my favorite area to use it on). Hydration is not an issue, I have a pretty solid skincare routine, so I'm sure it's not the gel. Overall, my face is looking more 'sculpted' or 'snatched' for lack of a better word since I started to use it, so I definitely love it.
Every time I use it on my forehead it tingles in the back of my skull- does it do that to you as well? Other than that I love mine and I use it every other day.
@@belgiumgirl8970 yeah, I love it!!! :D
Damn I can't use it on my forehead at all! It hurts soo bad! 💔 but I do love it
Same here my face looks more tone 😊
excited to receive mine. I just ordered it!!!
Hi. I think you neglected the reason WHY ATP is reduced with EMS, and this is important because not all EMS is the same. The reason ATP is depleted with EMS is because the muscles are USING it when contracting. IF the stimulation is too strong (causing your muscles to twitch), your muscles are using al lot of ATP, which takes a longer time to be restored. However, EMS is not always that strong. The PureLift, (the device from the face gym you visited), has never caused my facial muscles to twitch and the manufacturer, The Recovery Lab, has a lot of information on their EMS, and why theirs increase ATP. As you noted, ATP does replenish itself continously. The key is the exertion to the facial muscles, or put differently, the aount of ATP that the device causes your muscles to use. If not overstimulated, less ATP is used, and since ATP can be increased through electrical stimulation, it is possible to increase ATP with EMS. The amount of ATP that can be stored is also limited, so increasing the skin's ability to produce ATP over time through electrical stimulation is also an important consideration. Per your battery analogy, the battery's capacity is limited. Increasing the batteries capacity to quickly charge is another consideration. The temporary use of the battery's energy isn't the only thing to think about. In the end, devices such as electrical stimulation (EMS AND microcurrent) and Red Light Therapy, aim to increase the skin's metabolism and function to act like younger skin. Microcurrent manufacturers love to mention ATP reduction, while never producing studies that show if A) all EMS devices reduce ATP just because they reach the muscles and B) that the ATP reduction is a long term deficiency.
I appreciate this! I will look in to the Recovery Lab-and I’ll definitely follow up on the nuances of EMS (I agree they are not all the same).
I also agree that it’s much more complex than I outlined….a challenging subject to cover in one RUclips video.
You’ve given me inspo to dive in even farther, thank you! 💜
I don't understand much in chemistry and the way our bodies work. However your comment made me think. If something is beeing used up our body is supposed to start actively start working on rebuild it. Just like microneedling, we damage the skin and our body throwing all the energy to fix it. On the other hand if we don't do anything it's just age and gets droppy.
@NA thank you for this explanation! I’ve seen other videos claiming that EMS increases ATP, so your explanation is helpful. So I can’t help but wonder: if ATP is being used because the muscles are being stimulated (as would happen with regular exercise), is it known whether ATP levels actually *increase* after a certain amount of recovery? Or are we just constantly depleting our ATP if we work out the face and body too hard? Does is never return to its homeostasis? Or is there the possibility that it does increase over time, with recovery? And then, if ATP is always used when a muscle is stimulated, wouldn’t even lower levels of stimulation ALSO use (deplete) ATP but maybe just at a lower amount? I am full of questions LOL. Thanks for the informative reply!
I agree with you. All skeletal muscles use up ATP when stimulated through use of them. I think the trick is that you have to eat a healthy diet and you need to add rest days, just like you do with exercising all of your other muscles. Your body will rebuild its ATP stores using up glucose from food and oxygen. I think you can overuse the device and fatigue your muscles, but everything in moderation.
Yes you are right. Also ATP is not something that becomes deficient over time. If you notice the people who go to gym and excersise are healthier than the ones that don’t. With time their body comes into sync with the supply and demand of nutrients required to achieve the more toned body. The depletion theory about ATP is a bit misleading by the companies.
If the decrease in ATP after using the device was harmful to the muscles, then we would not be able to go to the gym to lift a lot of weight and do a lot of sets. I don't think it's important to decrease ATP after using the device, because if there were muscle contractions of course ATP will decrease and then resynthesize.
Penny you are hands-down the most intelligent, informed, and balanced online Aesthetician I’ve ever come across and I’ve been looking for a long time. I’m so impressed by the way you approach your research and analysis. Thank you so much for yet another great video. I’m going to pass on this one. 🦋
Thank you so much for your kind words Pamela 😊 I always appreciate seeing your lovely comments under my videos!!!
perfect timing-I’m seeing so many reviews of these and was wondering if I should ditch my microcurrent for this and now I know. Thanks for being my favorite trusted, unbiased expert
Glad I could help!
I’ve been waiting for your review on all 3 of them, thank you so much Penny, can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the deep shot device!
I was about to buy this from Tatis video… but I thought you might have a discount code on it and wanted to give you the credit… did not realize I’d be taught such an important concept.
THANK YOU
Hi Penny.. great video.. so much helpful information. I kind of feel like the question of depleted ATP for me, at age 72, is not a huge factor. I would personally love to see a better toned, plumper, more hydrated version of my skin . I like the idea of possibly more immediate results. If I were 20 years younger, however, I may be more inclined to give the depleted issue more thought. I am going to purchase this device. Thank you for your honesty and knowledge.
Have you used the nu face and if so what were your feelings about it??
@lucy brown the Medicube is Nuface on steroids.
Love the way you really
dig into these devices.
It makes it so much
easier for us to make
the right decision!!
Thank you so much
that is so appreciated ❤️❤️
Thank you so much for watching Blanca, I appreciate all of your support here and in the Facebook group! 💕
I just started using this and boy, it was intense (even on the lowest level). I will continue to use it and hope to see results.
I hope you do too! 🩷🩷
I heard the USA has to call it EMS but it’s called something different in Europe. Whatever it is it’s not allowed in the US. I personally would use it if I was in my late 60’s or early 70’s but I’m not destroying anything in my 40’s! Someone just commented that MC does the same thing and I’ve never heard that or experienced it. I’ve never heard of fat loss or anyones skin becoming more “droopy” the next day or two after using MC. Thanks so much for the videos! 💖
Also...in addition to NA....when a muscle is stimulated to the point that the cell needs more atp...the producers of atp...the mitochondria...can replicate and create more of themselves to the point that over time you have more producers of ATP...therefore more end product of atp. This is what all exercise does. However...the caveat is...muscle contraction creates more dynamic wrinkles.
Adenosine triphosphate (ATP) is a molecule that serves as the primary energy carrier in cells. However, it’s not directly related to EMS (Electrical Muscle Stimulation) facial devices. EMS devices work by delivering low-level electrical currents to stimulate facial muscles, which can lead to improvements in muscle tone and facial contouring.
While ATP is essential for cellular energy metabolism, its levels in the skin are not typically influenced by EMS facial devices. EMS devices primarily target muscle stimulation rather than altering cellular energy metabolism.
Interesting, that’s not what I was taught but I’m not an expert in EMS.
Thank you!
I love this video, so imformative. When I first got into this world of skincare devices and before splurging on the myolift I purchased a few ems devices and they all gave me awful migraines within a few hours… it never failed. Once in awhile I use it on my lower face for a small amount of time so I’d have to strongly agree with not using devices like this anywhere near the eyes or forehead
I’m so glad I came across your post! I’m very prone to migraines and I used the “bear” and about an hr later I had a migraine. It also happened when I used the Nuface on a higher level. I bought the Myolift and it has been sitting in the box for a few months - I’m so nervous to use it. I thought I was crazy but I guess it can trigger migraines!
I'm speechless, your research is impeccable!!! I am subscribing and I will definitely be watching all of your posted video's!!! Thank you :)
Thank you so much for subscribing! 🥰
Hi, Penny! Would you say the same about the device today as you did a year ago? Curious if your thoughts have changed since this video or not. I love your channel, btw- you are so knowledgeable/helpful!
Love your videos very informative and real specially when it comes to KBeauty because I believe they are in another level when it comes to the beauty industry from skincare to at home devices , ATP proven to be reproduced after EMS just like when we exercise our body muscles , the only thing I would say is if you have facial fat loss in certain areas not to use it there or as often also make sure to adjust it on the lowest up setting not the slim or body mode … or simply to replace it with micro current devices … I use it on the lowest up setting once or twice a week on my jaws definitely saw a difference … any updates dear?
I am definitely going to buy this device. It seems really effective and easy to use.
Truth Treatment device has both modes: microcurrent and EMS. It is VERY powerful. When I use it on my chin-neck, my shoulder is twitching. Device is not expensive and battery lasts for a long time. No need to buy a separate gadget just for EMS. Also, EMS doesn't do anything extra comparing to the results of microccurrent alone, you don't really need it, unless you like your face twitching like crazy. Neither microcurrent nor EMS can lift jowls.
I’ve just purchased the Truth Treatment one and still waiting on delivery, I’d been on the fence for so long trying to decide whether it’s worth it or not to purchase the Nuface as so many here on RUclips that have the Nuface and do reviews on that device are usually sponsored videos and they were given the Nuface to try and review, I’m always sceptical when that happens, whether to believe them or not, that’s mainly why I went with the TT one, most of the ones I follow on RUclips have all got the Nuface and I could only find one that reviewed the truth treatment device and she did an in-depth review of it which sold me on it, in your honest opinion, have you noticed a difference in your skin since using your truth treatment device, I’m 62 years young but don’t have much in the way of sagging jowls or neck, I mainly purchased it for those lines around my mouth area that come from down the nose, I can’t remember what they’re called, nasial folds or something like that. Would love to know your thoughts. ♥️♥️🇦🇺
The Truth Treatment website doesn’t mention the device has EMS, only microcurrent at 2 settings.
I love how you use analogies. They are very helpful. I bought this device and it hurts my teeth. I may try some dental gauze next time. However, I am wondering if I should just stick to microcurrent, RF, microneedling and LED. Within the last year (I am 47), I developed jowls and a turkey neck. It has aged me 10+ years, and I am super depressed. In your chart, I see you dont even have EMS listed. For sagging jawline you list RF, microcurrent, microneedling and LED. I wish I could return my device but it said on the sides where the tape was that once the tape is broke it cannot be returned :-( I would rather put my money towards a quality RF device. Currently I am using the mini Hifu from LoveJoy off of amazon. Its a combo device with RF, HIFU and EMS.
I like the outcome of my 65 year old skin with EMS devices than just Microcurrent and I’ve been trying to debate with online articles if in fact EMS depletes ATP.. Very confusing some some say yes it does deplete whiles others states no it does not deplete and it can increase our ATP.. Skin studies has always fascinated me that is why I became an Esthetician.. My question is if EMS does deplete our ATP and Microcurrent increases our ATP like the Pico toner.. Why can’t we just use the the two devices if the outcome with EMS looks and works faster than Microcurrent?? I could use my Pico Toner to increase the ATP or my Myolift 600.. Would this method of using both devices as a cocktail work out so that we don’t have to worry so much about depleting our ATP with our EMS devices??
Thanks for another informative video, Penny. In the last couple of years my face and neck more and more resemble a shar pei despite everything I have done to take care of them. I’m kind of kidding here - but kind of not. I was using the NEWA but stopped about a year ago because I didn’t really see a difference. I’ve been interested in EMS but I think it would be wiser to leave it at my age (71) . I’d love it if there was something that really worked for my skin at my age to take away the wrinkles and laxity but I think the only thing now is either surgical or maybe an ablative full face CO2. If we’d only had all these wonderful things when I was younger.❤️
Please review the medicube Userra Deep Shot. Dying to know what you think! I trust your judgement. Thanks
thanks for sharing this! I really appreciate it!
Great information from everyone. Thank you all and to you Penny for always helping us understand things we don't. Great community here! ❤
Great video Penny! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and research. Love the analogy…I’d rather I reserve/boost my ATP.
Thank you for watching Tamara 💜💜💜
Happy Sunday!
This is such a helpful video. Exactly what I look for when looking for reviews on devices. I love all the points you raised. Thank you :)
I will keep this in my mind to use for my body, maybe the face once a month,while I use other devices. 🥰
Really enjoyed all the honest information you’ve provided. Thank you.
Thank you very much… I started Second guessing myself on the Omnilux Contour and Nuface..
I believe I will just continue with them.
thanks again you are wonderful enjoy your journey in life and continue spreading sunshine
A really great informative video. East to fall into all the hype on a product but so important to analyze each expensive products and it’s benefits or negatives. Thank you!
thanks for being so thorough + informative. this was really helpful. ordered both the medicube age r + booster h devices! 😊
Love all your videos, thank you for all the work you put into all this so we learn and make the right decision in what to use and what not to use. 🙏 😘
Penny!!! You must have been READING my mind. Thank you for this!
Thank you for being here Mary! 💜
Thank you Penny for reviewing Medicube products, I hear about them all the time on social and I’ve really been wondering! Looking forward to the other two product reviews coming up ♥️
Woow thank you for so deep analysis of the product. The comparison with the car is great!
Love gadgets but don't know where I would fit this in, I think I will stick with my micro current, radio frequency and microneedling. Thanks for the informative video.
Thank you for this very informative video! There’s a lot of hype out there with these devices and I’ve been searching for a more in depth and critical (as in objective) look at it. I also noticed some red flags on their site. There are a lot of videos out there saying EMS does increase ATP so I appreciate the studies you showed. It was also something I was wondering about. I can’t help but wonder, if this is meant to stimulate facial contractions as in exercise, why not just do targeted facial exercises? What’s the difference? Is there a benefit to a device that exercise would not provide?
Perfect timing. I have been thinking about adding EMS to my Newa and Myolift Mini routine. I have been wondering about the Lumo, if it is worth the expense of adding it in.
Thank you so much again for this interesting video and all of the research 🙏 🥰 You look so beautiful again!
Thank you so much Anis!
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE 🥰
A good 'experiment' to try would be to use the gel and just massage the skin and see if it feels the same as if you used the device with the gel.
Thank you for this!!!! I was hoping you would review this since I value your opinion a lot and have been noticing this all over the place!!!!
You are so welcome!
Thank you for this. We need to know the truth about our skin care. We all just believe at face value what people tell us. The truth is so nice for a change, and so helpful.
What about the Medicube Ussera? Please make a review about it. Thanks.
Great detailed relatable education. Yes, so many companies offer marketing“fudge”. Now I wonder about all this. I do have the LUMO and love the EMS. It also has red light at the same time which is supposed to boost ATP so hopefully offsets the initial loss of ATP from EMS? I don’t rely on the red light from the LUMO. I use a RLT mask most days of the week. But - Have I sucked into the hope of these devices? I have very few wrinkles and elasticity looks quite good for 64 yo, (except the jowl area. Keep hoping that will improve but know that hope is not science based). So part of me thinks…yeah..keep going with this routine. If ATP rebounds, that’s a good thing. It’s not permanently lost.
This is so interesting. Thanks for clearing up some confusion.
I appreciate you very much !
Glad it was helpful!
I realize EMS is popular, but it seems counterintuitive to me. I started preventative Botox more than 15 years ago, in an effort to keep muscles from engaging. Why would I use a device to engage the very muscles I’ve worked so hard to keep paralyzed? While there may be some benefits to the skin, there are myriad treatments and products that will provide the same. The reduction in ATP is enough for me to continue to say no. I am interested in the gel, though! Thanks for the review!
Please, talk about LED and the different colors of LED and their benefits✨
Thanks for this, Penn! Gonna pass on the device,but appreciate knowing that there’s another conductive gel that can be left on As skin care. I have been using the J Kosmmune spray toner forever to add a bit of betaglucan hydration to my microcurrent routine. So sad that The company seems to have folded.I have discovered the NuFace Hydrating Aqua gel and rehydrating it as needed, Love the push down dispenser!
Thank you for this! I’m curious about your thoughts on the claims that strengthening facial muscles with EMS and micro current DON’T help with sagging skin but instead just build muscle which just makes the face more angular. I used micro current regularly for 4 years and really saw no benefit to my skin, it really just seemed to make my thin angular face more thin and angular!…and so this theory makes sense with my experience…what do you think?
This whole talk about ATP being a question is like saying should you work out considering lactic acid will build up…. The answer is Yes, we all should :)
Exactly!!!! Im a physician. Goes back to basic biochemistry and the kreb’s cycle. Soooo…. I shouldnt work out because it will deplete my atp?
Totally didnt understand why using up atp is a deal breaker???
Thank you Penn. always helpful
Absolutely great video! I really appreciate your discernment! I am so quick to purchase every new device that comes along. 😆
Tell me about it! I want every single new thing that comes out! And I’m eternally hopeful lol
Great, great TOP on you! And a FABULOUS, informative video!
Thank you!
I really like and appreciate your reviews. Thank you!
I appreciate that! Thank you!
Oh now I wish I had seen this earlier. I saw a video where the woman was saying it helped her TMJ. I get Botox in my masseters for TMJ and it does work for me but it’s so expensive. I sprang for this hoping a one-time expense would help cut down on the amount of times I needed to get my Botox refreshed. It sucks shelling out hundreds of dollars for Botox and still having wrinkles 😂😭 But if it makes Botox wear off quicker, I really made a boo-boo in purchasing it. Sigh. Well, I may try it on my knees and see if it does anything there. Thanks for the in-depth and understandable information.
I had it two weeks ago for TMJ , omg it’s life changing, wish I’d done it sooner and it’s really slimmed my face down too
I have TMJ and would be careful with ANY electrical device. I use the PureLift, which IS EMS, but I am careful on the masster( one side) that gives me a problem and also use the Shani Darden's wand to massage that masseter. You do NOT want to stimulate an overactive masseter. I did use Botox, last time a year ago, and am trying to maintain the result with the massage since Botox in the masseter's does cause bone resorption.
Thank you @MarieSAnderson71 for this information! Do you have a link to the video you saw of this woman with TMJ?
Thank you! Great information, I’ve noticed some companies use EMS and microcurrent interchangeably which is super confusing. Trophyskin BrightenMD is a customization choice in the fabfitfun fall box. I already use Nuface for microcurrent but thought it might be good to have a multifunctional device for travel. I sent Trophyskin a message asking if the device uses microcurrent or EMS, they said essentially they are the same but that the device uses EMS. Is using an EMS noticeably different than microcurrent? Can you actually feel and see the muscle contracting?
I opted for Tripollar Rose because it didn’t have ELV and it was less expensive because possibly decreasing ADP doesn’t seem worth it to me.
Thanks!
Thanks for tackling this issue! EMS is not for me. I don't believe it's good long-term and I even find microcurrent very zappy and uncomfortable. No way I could enjoy the stronger EMS.
I think Yaman (a Japanese brand) is cheaper and more effective!!! I love their products
I’ve been wondering so much about these devices thank you so much!!
Great analogy that I could understand !
Hi new subscriber here! I'd love to hear your thoughts on their ATS shot vs Gloow booster device! Since out of all the videos here, I trust you the most now!
Do you have any suggestions for an alternative that isn’t as harmful?
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been wondering about this product.
You are so welcome!
I’ve been waiting for this!
Have you tried Lumo? It seems promising to have rf, red light, and ems in the same device.
Thank you so much for this informative video of yours. I was so tempted to buy all medicube devices for quite some time now since it keeps on showing up as ads and right now, they have the primrose colored devices but then, I stumbled with your video. I'm gonna really think it over then as I'm only in early 30s and don't want to lose ATP earlier than it supposed to be and also, I already have foreo bear to help my bell's palsy residue in my face and helps me whenever I get flare ups as well so, I'll stick to it for now then. Have you tried the medicube air shot and booster h devices? Is it worth it? Yay or nah? Thank you once again.
I am so glad you went through this and explained the science behind this! Thank you! One more device I can definitely pass on. But the gel is interesting. I use one gel, and do my NEWA and then my Nuface right after, only rehydrating the gel with water. Do you think this gel could be used for both RF and MC? Thank you for all you do!
This gel could definitely be used with both!
I love your hair colour Penny!
Thank you Anna 😊
I was just about to buy all 3 of those devices after seeing Tati recommendation when I saw how much was the cost of shipping to Australia and decided to check Korean suppliers. That's when I discovered that the cost of those devices anywhere else in the world is the cost that you can buy them in the US after applying 40% off discount from Tati. This means that they mark up the price and then give you a code to make it look like you are getting a great deal. What a messed up, unethical thing to do. This, in turn, makes me question all of their efficacy claims. If they are willing to bamboozle customers when it comes to the cost what else are they lying about? Not cool.
What Korean suppliers ? Can you please say websites ?
The prices in Canada are comparable to the US prices. I joined Medicube as an M-club member in order to get the 40% members' discount. When I received my EMS Shot, they also sent me full sizes of their Triple Collagen Toner and Reviving Peptide Eye Cream at no additional cost. Seemed like a decent deal to me.
@@martayoung2492 It's not a decent deal. You had to pay a membership fee to join their club to get a discount on a marked up product. You can get those devices from Korea for the price you paid after subscribing to their membership. It's unethical to mark up the price and then pretend that they are giving you a deal with either a discount code or membership.
To be honest, not surprised by this. Many of the reviews on their devices seem off / faked. Lots of 5 star reviews that say "just started using, not a lot of results yet but will update!" Etc. Plus some before and after photos that are clearly photoshopped. I do not trust this company at all.
@@sapphire8774 I ordered the age r ussera from Korea because I was curious, I've been using it since September. I can't say I've seen any results. I use a lot of devices pretty religiously, and when I added this one to my rotation there was no difference to my skin. I'm not going to fully dismiss it, because there is a possibility that my skin is at it's best thanks to the devices I was already using and maybe this can't do anything extra but I'm not going to bother with purchasing anything else from Medicube. Because I'm a big believer in technology when it comes to beauty I almost got fully sucked into this one. If they offered free shipping to Australia I would have dropped over 1k on those devices. Glad that the shipping fee made me think twice and do some more research which in turn led me to discover their unethical marketing behaviour.
I am definitely curious to see how it would help the upper arms just above the elbow and above the knees. If it creates a stronger contraction than the NuFace body, then it might be a great tool.
Also, supplementing with creatine might be helpful with ATP stores, coq10, etc..
Experiments are fun.
Experiments are fun! 😄😄💜
If you wanted to try EMS on your upper arms or knees, it would be cheaper and easier to get a regular EMS device. You can get one under $50 on Amazon. It’ll definitely have you twitching!😁
Can you use any of these devices if you have moderate rosecea?
Hi, did you do a review on either of the other two Medicube tools by chance? Thanks! The video was super helpful. I'm concerned about the ATP depletion. I'm wondering if the other tools do not cause that.
Still wondering why so many of these newer devices are using EMS if it depletes ATP?
I am interested in the body mode. Do you think it could make any difference in the tricep or dreaded flapping issues?
Hello, thank you so much for this information! Now, I have a question: do you know if that the same modality as the « EMS » (or « DMA » as they call it here in Europe) of the TriPollar Stop Vx? Using the device in that mode is not comfortable, but I do it because I think it is a « bonus », but if it’s not even that good… maybe I shouldn’t bother? (And had I known, I could have saved some money by buying the version with the same RF, but no DMA…)
Great question and one I would love to read some comments on as I also purchased this device particularly for the ems function but am now seriously considering whether I should be doing the extra ems or avoiding it.
@@AC-xy5rt exactly!
Love everything about you and your channel! Sorry to be off-topic, but would you be so kind as to share info regarding your star necklace and also your moon necklace on past videos? I think they look so cool on you and I would love to capture some of your magic. Thank you so so much💕!
It is from Melinda Maria.
Thank you Amy 💜
Yes!! It is Melinda Maria.
Thank you Jane for such a kind comment 🥰🥰
Oh thank you so much. I’ve been eyeing that necklace on you for a long time! Yay!!
Oh Penny! Please review medicube body shot!! I got one and it’s strong!!! Like moving up levels is too strong in some spots
Hi Penny! Should we think of Time Master Pro in the same way? It has ultrasound but also EMS so overall, would it deplete ATP more than bringing benefits from the ultrasound?
I’m wondering the same!!
Honestly I’m not sure. I think the TMP EMS is no where near as strong as the medicube device so it’s certainly a better option (although it’s ridiculously expensive). I think ultrasound has a lot of merit-and TMP definitely does have legit ultrasound.
I think you’re ok Sara 💜
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE thank you so much!!
My chin and neck was looking wrinkly and I was getting a double chin. I am on my second week and I see the results.
I like your channel but this time I need to disagree. There is really no science supporting that microcurrent boosts ATP production. On the other side we do know that our muscles atrophy with age.
EMS is like a workout. It depletes your ATP. This is physiological. But as the muscle gets stronger it naturally will have more ATP.
I have used medical EMS devices on my face. They are difficult to use because the electrodes for the face are small and tend fall off, but the results are beautiful + lasting. A stronger muscle will not shrink immediatly.
In the End electricity is electricity. EMS is also a kind of microcurrent, but delivered in a pulsatile manner.
I guess if anyone took the money and made a study comparing ATP levels in muscles after like 4 weeks of usage of a microcurrent vs. EMS - they would be the same
This makes much sense to me and is swaying me towards a primarily EMS device. Not clear though on why "comparing ATP levels in muscles after like 4 weeks of usage of a microcurrent vs. EMS - they would be the same". Wouldn't there be more ATP with EMS because more muscle needs more of it, thus producing it--or is it the same because baseline homeostasis is the same once muscle recovers?
Thank you so much! I wish to have a simple masager in this shape.
They have some on Amazon that have a similar shape, so great for lymphatic massage! amzn.to/3QnkMtB
Can i use aloe vera gel as a substitute for the booster gel
I’m wondering this as well…
Thank you for this review. It is very helpful. Can you please also review the MBK Wave device and the La Luer tool. Thank you
Thank you. You are so honest really trust your opinion. Sticking with my atp and myolift.😘
Where is your review of their Age-r deepshot machine?
Watching this once left me confused as to whether or not it would be beneficial for the face in the long run. ATP is what we want to build, right? So, if this depletes a little ATP per use... it sounds like it will negatively impact my face in the long run. However, your using it and you said you'd use it on other parts of your body. If your using it, is it that bad? I saw Tati a few days ago review this, I wasn't sure then. I feel like her have has lost some volume. Her skin looks good, but she doesn't seem to have as much fat in the cheeks. It sound like a good idea, but I don't know... maybe not. What I'd like to find is something that works on lifting the fascia. A device. I know there's fascia blasters and the Anma, but is there anything a little more powerful or targeted?
On a side note, I'm very interested in the pore refining tool Medicube has and in what it does and how it works. I'm looking forward to your review on that.
Thank you so much Penny, for doing these and all tge videos you put out. You've really help me a lot in making informed choices on devices and skin care. Hope you're having a wonderful and blessed week. 💖🌺
Personally I don’t think this is beneficial to the face long term. On other parts of the body the muscles are bigger and the skin is thicker so all around the strength isn’t as impactful (this is my opinion, and honestly I will be doing more research on EMS and body treatments 😊).
Fascia is incredibly fascinating to me. I’m sure you do, but if not, you should follow Jane Mann here on YT and on Instagram. She’s incredible! 💜
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE thanks! I'm passing on this tool for sure. Although, I can't wait to see you research videos on EMS.
Actually, I am not currently following Jane Mann. I will remedy that right now, lol! Thank Penny! 💖
@@PENNSMITHSKINCARE I love the Jane Mann Lift by Neurotris. It is an Incredible microcurrent tool. I use it with my myolift 600 instead of the Pico-toner.
I love her Anma tool with myolift as well!! (I use it with myolift and also pico, so cool that it’s so versatile).
Jane is just an amazing human inside and out. So glad you follow her too!
Hi Penn,
I haven't seen a follow up on the Solawave. Does it truly have micro current?
Love your puppy! ❤️
Great video! I love all of the research that you do and the studies you provide to back up their claims. Is this similar to the Truth Treatments Nrgy device? Have you done any reviews of that one?
Oh No - I am sitting here watching another of your great videos while I treat my face in EMS mode with the Evenskyn Lumo. What am I doing to my face? Should I stop? THX!
The EMS mode on the Lumo also includes RF + Red & Blue light. I believe these assist in ATP production. If my thinking is correct, it should balance out the ATP depletion effect of the EMS. I hope Penn will read this and correct me if I am wrong. I just started using the Lumo recently and just did my 2nd session. I like how quick and convenient the whole process is.
PubMed article suggest zygomaticus major muscle is worked out from EMS.
Yes.
Great analogy
This was really interesting. Thank you for all the information and looking forward to the deep dive.
How does this compare to the Nuface or Foreo Bear?
Hi I 1st wanna start by saying I trust what you say and I thank you for being honest and sharing with us, I was thinking of getting this product so I'm so glad I listen to your video, So with all being sad that means that you are no longer using this device, Correct? 😊 Also, when I saw your eyes jumping like that and twisting, nooooooo am a chicken, lol I do have my nuface Can I get that cream and use it with my
Nuface? The question is what is good for tightening around the neck that is my main concern, Thank you so much love you You are awesome!🥰🤗🩶🫶🌷💐🌻
Do you do externships for new esthetician grads?