Snowboard Length 101 // What's the right board length for me?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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    Finding the right snowboard length can be tricky, since there are many factors at lay that contribute to how the length is perceived by the rider and to how the board behaves in different situations.
    So a better question would be "What's the right board length for me in this particular model for this kind of riding?".
    Check out this video, it will help answering all your questions and might inspire you to try something different next time!
    00:00 Intro
    02:17 What's up with the Yeti?
    02:46 The Obvious: shorter = more agile
    03:42 How long is a 160
    04:42 Perceived board length
    11:55 Measuring effective edge
    12:36 More or less effective edge
    13:57 Board design and length
    16:17 Weight range / rider height
    21:46 Online board finder
    25:33 There's no one right length
    29:50 Reference and purpose
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  • @oldnotwise71
    @oldnotwise71 4 месяца назад +18

    Smart people know that the greatest educators aren't just smart or have a great subject matter knowledge, they are the ones who have the gift of simplifying complex subjects and presenting the knowledge in a manor that everyone can understand. Keep up the great work.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      Wow... thank you very much!

    • @casstarre4131
      @casstarre4131 4 месяца назад

      My mentor always told me "If you can't simplify the explanation, so that the avarage Joe can understand and use the information. You yourself don't understand the subject well enough yet". And that is a philosophy I live by, it also keeps you humble and not push wrong or incomplete knowledge onto someone.

  • @FazeredTube
    @FazeredTube 4 месяца назад +6

    I am so glad that I have gone through a few iterations of snowboard buying now and have a better sense of what I want.
    As a beginner it was bewildering even though I researched like crazy. When you don’t know enough about snowboarding to know what you want/need it is infuriating.
    I am also 193cm (6’4”) and 98Kg (216lbs) with US14 boots, so it makes finding the right equipment even tougher.

  • @jordinc7074
    @jordinc7074 4 месяца назад +4

    This is good, highly recommend a demo day where you can swap every few runs to experience the differences mentioned here. You can ride many styles of boards, even if they arent your cup of tea, to at least understand how different lengths, flex, widths, sidecuts, etc. feel.

  • @tommyhogye6068
    @tommyhogye6068 4 месяца назад +6

    Curated “experts” quaking in their boots watching this

    • @Daz555Daz
      @Daz555Daz 4 месяца назад

      Man I hate that channel so much!

  • @outsider9216
    @outsider9216 4 месяца назад +5

    Oh, thank you so much for your videos! They are just great!! I’m from Russia and unfortunately there are no such informative sources in russian, so some of your videos just blew my mind and completely changed my understanding of snowboarding and snowboards. Thanks again! ❤

  • @CLGill36
    @CLGill36 4 месяца назад +4

    Another extremely informative video Lars. Have two days on my K2 Alchemist 159W which is now my go to carving board, very stiff and aggressive. Just picked up a volume shifted Yes Pro20 at only 148cm, but has a stiff camber profile and 28.6cm waist, hoping this will be my playful and powder day board (although I hear the Alchemist is no slouch in the powder). These two boards really highlight how the size of the board can depend on its intended purpose. Look forward to riding that Fernie pow next week.

  • @vstags
    @vstags 4 месяца назад +2

    Rode the Carveair and absolutely loved it!!

  • @Mountain_Running
    @Mountain_Running 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for putting all these great videos out! I was surprised to hear you mention the Cartographer as I ride one in a 149 and have never seen another in the wild.
    I'm planning on getting a Stranda Descender for next season and am torn between the 152 and 158. I'm 5'4" 135 lbs and wear size 7 boots.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      Probably 152…..

    • @Mountain_Running
      @Mountain_Running 4 месяца назад

      That's what i was thinking. Keep up the awesome discussion and enjoy the rest of your season! Tip incoming.​@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel

  • @noajonssonsvahn7962
    @noajonssonsvahn7962 4 месяца назад +1

    This is gold.

  • @hazmatite
    @hazmatite 4 месяца назад +2

    Love this nerdy content!!

  • @lauhanwai
    @lauhanwai 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video - I keep a quiver to be able to mix it up. Usually something for firm snow (carving board or a park board) and a shorter/fatter for trees and powder. Has been a good combo for me. And then you add special stuff like split board, maybe a dedicated carver, variations of powder boards, and all the other boards purchased in a fit of passion that you might now regret 🤣🤣
    One thing I find odd is that’s skis manufacturers don’t tend to disclose effective edge.

  • @martinbailly573
    @martinbailly573 4 месяца назад +1

    Amazing analysis ! Once again you are right on ! Many shops reps should have this knowledge to really help their customers! Great video ! Thanks !

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you very much! I tried to create that kind of base of understanding at Edge Of The World here in Fernie, and the team there is pretty awesome with this. It’s the companies / the industry as a whole that needs to grow up and stop treating every snowboard as a fun, colourful toy that is part of a hype/trend…. Being a little nerdy gets people on more appropriate gear! 😎

  • @hazmatite
    @hazmatite 4 месяца назад +1

    I think it's tough to come up with a good single metric for choosing a board. Back in the day it was "between your nose and your chin" and now it is weight, which I think is better. But you're 100% right about all of the factors that go into it. Not sure what your experience is, but my experience explaining this to new and sometimes even experienced riders in the shop is that their eyes glaze over. They just want me to give them one number to buy. I think that's the reality many manufacturers are wrestling with.

  • @stephengioacchini3946
    @stephengioacchini3946 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video. I was just at the Burton Flagship store here in Burlington VT and didn't get anywhere close to this information. This was very helpful.

  • @_one_trick_tony_
    @_one_trick_tony_ 3 месяца назад

    Another amazing video! Lol I was sketching a board with a small contact edge and huge tips 😅

  • @AluinKali
    @AluinKali 4 месяца назад +1

    Loved to have this video before I bought my new board this season, but I’ll definitely refer back to it the next time around. Though I intuitively used some of the principles you mentioned in the video. I ended up buying a Nidecker Mosquito. This might be a niche board for many but for me it’s really fun to carve, fun in pow and I don’t care for park or riding switch much anyways.

  • @Mountain_Running
    @Mountain_Running 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @musashiblade8665
    @musashiblade8665 4 месяца назад +1

    I’m 5’3” and an average weight of 125 lbs.
    I’ve ridden hard boots on a Rossi Race board in a 161 length. I found it I had to work the tail swing to get started a bit. But once I built up my friend the “speed” it would setup nicely into a most satisfying carving experience.
    My outlook was “just ride it” don’t think through it so much. Everyone commented on the length I was riding because of being small in physical stature.
    Sometimes I feel the size is a psychological effect. When I go shorter in length it feels odd and questionable.
    I just recently purchased a Jones flagship in a 158 length.
    I hope it gives me the same vibes as my race board did.
    Excellent explanation of the difference in lengths in your video.
    Ride on and peace from the North East 🏂✌️

  • @kaidame3499
    @kaidame3499 4 месяца назад +1

    I feel what you have said about different body proportions. I'm the prime example of that 6'2 and 165lbs guy. Tend to enjoy those longer but overall softer shapes. Was a long rod to dial in and still is a point of concern while looking for new decks. Not to stiff, but not to short/narrow.

    • @pnut1473
      @pnut1473 4 месяца назад

      You need to get on a ride warpig 151 or 154 great board for your size

  • @maness2112
    @maness2112 4 месяца назад +2

    You are right. Thats why i have 27 boards in my quiver.

  • @irsever
    @irsever 4 месяца назад +6

    Mainstream manufacturers treat board length a lot like they treat waist width. The total range of options is quite small and they pretend that someone who isn't riding their exact recommended size will be unable to control themselves. Really it's the sidecut radius and a few other factors that determine how the board rides, not the overall length. The industry is still shifted towards a freestyle setup with a nearly twin shape, even though your riding is likely far removed from that discipline. Viewers, demo a Rad-Air if you ever get the opportunity, which start around 180cm. The charging and bump eating capability is beyond belief!

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @SnakebitSTI
      @SnakebitSTI 4 месяца назад

      Manufacturers do tie flex to length, so there's some truth to the "pick the right length for your weight" thing. Although that doesn't necessarily give you the ride you want or the right stance width. And it might be too wide or narrow for your feet.
      Custom boards are another matter.

  • @jerryb63
    @jerryb63 4 месяца назад

    This one video is probably one of the best single sources of board buying info out there.
    It’s taken me years of trial and error and studying spec sheets to try to figure out the best board choice for me. I have to fly to the snow so I can only take two boards max and they have to do every condition and terrain for the trip, so it’ll be a compromise whatever I take, but means it’s even more important to find what suits me and can work ‘across the piste’.
    The one thing little mentioned here though is sidecut radius, but you’ve covered it well on other clips.
    20 years ago in Tahoe I bought a 165 full camber with 9.4m radius and around 1430mm effective edge. It was fast, stable and great for long carves at speed. Get it on a lumpy crowded narrow at the end of the day and it wasn’t fun at all, you had to be on your A-game and committed to control it and I lacked the skills, and I had no idea about specs back then.
    Went a bit shorter and never regained that ability to fire out of a turn and get airborne, the tails would wash out if I tried. Then overhang became a problem as boots and stance changed and I got heavier.
    Now on volume shifted but short 7m sidecuts (I didn’t realise) so great for sharper turns and wide for big boots, but not so good on fast sweeping turns.
    In fact I don’t really get the marketing of ‘volume shifted’, and downsizing , it only makes sense in powder where float matters or spins, you end up with a short EE and sidecut as well. Why not just call them short/wide and not advise people to downsize, just say that you can and still retain width. I’m a fan of them but wish I’d gone for the longest to get the width and moderate length/cut, and ignored the ‘size down’ advice. Horses for courses I guess!
    But this video highlights the differences and helps make that informed choice.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks man!! Love your take on Short Fats... Video coming soon! I'm entirely with you there! The marketing is so flawed and ridiculous... :-)

    • @kamiofthejunglistsoulja
      @kamiofthejunglistsoulja 4 месяца назад +1

      What is your take on the relationship between side cut and effective edge?
      As the previous poster said, it seems the short/smalls can still carve hard, but at much lower speeds or else they wash out.
      P.S. Just picked up a Stranda Cheater and it was incredible. I couldn’t find the end of its grip, it gave me so much confidence. Looking forward to using it to help me on my quest for the pencil line run.

    • @jerryb63
      @jerryb63 4 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I’ll be in Italy next week and I’ll get to compare the K2 excavator I got last year (58, I wish I’d got the 62) to a new Korua Transition Finder in 160. It’s a centimetre wider all over and the EE is longer as it has a little less of a shovel nose with a longer softer edge contact point into it and a 8.2m sidecut so it’ll be interesting to see if it’ll work as a one-board all conditions ride.
      I’m 186cm and 86kg 45boots but without your skills so I’m hoping I can still chuck it around the lumpy stuff and hopefully trees and stuff off the sides while being a bit more versatile for carving.
      Would love to try a 170w cheater though.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  3 месяца назад

      @@kamiofthejunglistsoulja hey! Sorry just seeing this comment now.....
      Check out this video.Maybe it'll answer your question... ruclips.net/video/yCHZtKEZU3s/видео.htmlsi=LAH7twEu2mZ9G-Rv
      May I ask whether you came t the Cheater through this channel? Would be great to know! Thank you!!

    • @kamiofthejunglistsoulja
      @kamiofthejunglistsoulja 3 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Yes, I found the board through your channel.
      I tried a few different boards and even an alpine board trying to find a board the suited my style and ability.
      I thought that the description you gave of the board and my current understanding of the specs I thought I was looking for meant it would likely be a good fit.
      I only got out on it one day, but it was fantastic. Held on the morning ice, and just let me push as harder than I had on any other board. By mid day it was all mush and moguls and I was still able to ride hard. I didn’t get bucked around and I wasn’t getting pounded by the board. I was quite shocked how much fun it was through normally tiring conditions.
      Looking forward to making it my daily driver next season and see how far I can progress.

  • @brianp9268
    @brianp9268 4 месяца назад

    We are almost identical size except im size 8 boots. I ride in New Hampshire and Vermont. I have 5 snowboards ranging from 147 to 158. I agree the fears about more length are overblown. My longest board is one of my stiffest so its definitely noticeable, but not ‘hard’ to ride. It’s perfect for the right conditions.

  • @nemaemanema3940
    @nemaemanema3940 4 месяца назад

    Very nice video! I have a tall and skinny friend that is contemplating buying a new board and he was only talking about the length, and I was trying to explain to him, that it's the wrong way to go about and buy a board simply by the length of it, so this video should be really helpful to him!
    P.S. That Makrill looks like it's been used a bit. I'm looking at it from the point of view, that it must be fun board to ride, not that it's "banged up"... I'd really love to try one some day!

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      It's a demo! Hahahaha.... They always get banged up. I ride this one myself when it's not under some tester's feet. Great board!!

    • @nemaemanema3940
      @nemaemanema3940 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel That explains the appearance :D
      I was watching Ryan Knapton videos yesterday and he was answering someones question regarding his board and it was something crazy like 31cm waist width and a 13 or 14m sidecut radius, but didn't mention the effective edge. Have you tried Donek boards? I know they are all custom made to whatever is your fancy.

  • @meisterkleister1262
    @meisterkleister1262 4 месяца назад

    Danke!

  • @warrens4808
    @warrens4808 4 месяца назад

    Love this... early on, and as a stocky person I focused on effective edge. My favorite short board was the first Santa Cruz XXX 155 ('94-'95). I believe it had an effective edge of 1250 (I wish I could find those specs), and both the nose and tail were little stubs. I also think it had a very large sidecut radius (8+) for its size. I used to carve that thing really well. I still have the second iteration of that board in my garage. All that said, it feels like the trend is moving back towards larger sidecut radii and longer effective edges?

  • @dilligaf2403
    @dilligaf2403 4 месяца назад +1

    thank you so much for your videos, you're obviously an excellent carver and you explain things very well! I see the cheater wide but what is the gray board behind you with bindings mounted and how does it compare to the cheater for carving? thanks again.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад

      Descender 162W. Big Mountain Freeride. Great carver, but doesn't beat the Cheater... It's an off piste monster that eats up chunder like nothing I've ever ridden. Best freeride board out there - saying this after 10 years on the great Jones Flagship.

    • @dilligaf2403
      @dilligaf2403 4 месяца назад

      How does the carving of the shorty wide compare to both of them? Looking to buy a Stranda but have some questions to focus on. Thanks again for your time.@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel

  • @therealchickentender
    @therealchickentender 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice shirt. I was trying to listen to the video but just kept staring at the shirt.
    Yeti should try a longer length though... looks a bit short.
    (Srsly - awesome vid :) )

  • @nicodemus1828384
    @nicodemus1828384 4 месяца назад +3

    Would you consider an in depth review of the Descender? I can't find one.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +4

      Yeah, might happen! Check Stranda's homepage. I wrote one there before I became an ambassador... Like 3 or 4 years ago...

  • @Cocora22
    @Cocora22 3 месяца назад

    Funny I'm watching this because a few weeks ago I started thinking about what I wanted as a second board. I have been on a Burton 149 Feelgood for a number of years. At 5 feet and at the time 135 pounds plus a bit younger I felt pretty good. I have the the rocker one. So I thought being lighter now, older (71) I thought maybe something softer shorter and lighter might not be a bad idea. I got the Arbor Mantra at 144, also a rocker board. It felt easier to turn, still great on groomers and surprisingly enough at least to me it steered me around moguls a lot better. It's hard to figure out what to buy since trying out boards is just not really feasible, seems more of a crap shoot.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  3 месяца назад

      Amazing that you're still riding!!! Good on you! Inspirational! 🙏
      It's not a crap shoot with the right guidance. But that is hard to find...

  • @tbaart4428
    @tbaart4428 4 месяца назад

    How’s that Stranda Makrel? Are you gonna make a review on it? I had a korua dart but sold it recently. Looking for another dedicated powder/carving board.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      Makrill is much tighter turning in the tail than a Dart. Large taper on Dart makes for more open, fast, big turns. Makrill is more surfstyle, quick, slash off the lip type turns. Both great boards!!

  • @timhunt7155
    @timhunt7155 3 месяца назад

    How is the makrill in tight trees deep powder? I want a board that’s nimble and easy in Japan deep, and can be a bit of fun on carve groomers to lift. I like the look of it but was told possibly go tree hunter over makrill?

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  3 месяца назад

      Oh wow…. Tree hunter is very much pow only. Sketchy ride for hard snow with that profile and stiff nose flex. Makrill as a tree board is amazing. Insanely quick. And for carving, just watch my last carving technique video; that’s on the Makrill. 😊

  • @nathansmall7765
    @nathansmall7765 4 месяца назад +1

    Hey Lars, love the vid. I myself am 6’2” 160lbs like you mentioned in the video and was wondering if you could expand a bit on what to look for in a board for carving/ powder. You said that someone like me should look for a longer board with softer flex, but wherever I look it seems that boards in that category have a very stiff flex. Is it all just relative? Do you have any recommendations? Much love from Arizona!

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад

      What’s your boot size and ability level?

    • @nathansmall7765
      @nathansmall7765 4 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel 9.5 US, i’d say low to middle of intermediate. I already have a board that I’m going to be riding to get better for at least another season, I was just curious as to what to look for when I go to upgrade. Thanks for responding!

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      @@nathansmall7765 as I said in the video... Get a board around at least 164, but don't buy an expert model. Tough to find such boards. Stranda make long boards for not so heavy people... The Shorty you can probably ride in the 169. Perfect powder & carving board. Meant to be ridden longer.

    • @nathansmall7765
      @nathansmall7765 4 месяца назад

      Thanks a bunch! hope you have a great day

  • @beezwaks
    @beezwaks 3 месяца назад

    I want to try longer boards.
    But the trails we have are narrow and icy, and off trail is rarely ridable.

  • @cmdrshprd
    @cmdrshprd 4 месяца назад

    For context, I’m not a total novice but I still have a ton to learn. Size 12 boot (155lbs), and when I rented in park city they put me on a 144 burton hometown hero. Good thing I don’t know how to carve yet! I actually had a great time and didn’t realize that it’s not a good board for my size until I checked the specs later

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад

      😮😮😮

    • @cmdrshprd
      @cmdrshprd 4 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channelthanks for all your content. Glad to be learning these things from your videos instead of from injuries on the mountain ❤

  • @kaidame3499
    @kaidame3499 4 месяца назад +1

    Well - such a nice talk through. Maybe you can clarify this one for me an every body else once and forever 🙏
    Contact length and running length is the same and is measured like you described it. Straight line from contact point to contact point.
    While effective edge is measured alongside the curce from contact point to contact point 🤷‍♂️? Or is it still the same measurement as those other two variations?

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      Great question, frustrating answer:
      As far as I know contact length SHOULD BE the BASE contact length. Base that touches the snow when the rider is standing on it! So on a rocker board the contact length increases with the rider on the board, while on a camber board it decreases slightly (if that makes sense...).
      Effective edge is the amount of edge touching the snow when the board is in a turn (contact point to contact point).
      From what I've seen and heard from various manufacturers, the industry is a bit of a gong show, and there are no standard measuring methods Some companies measure the curve, others measure a straight line from contact point to contact point.
      Then some call their effective edge 'contact length' to complete the nightmare!!
      I found out all of this by learning how to measure myself years ago, and I have my own reference, as otherwise I can't possibly compare boards with how inconsistence this is.
      Mervin take it to the next level: on some boards they measure setback off of the effective edge (which is correct), and on others they measure it off of the physical length of the board (which is utter nonsense)... I know this straight from them. My answer here sums up why I started this channel.... :-)
      It's wild! Snowboards are treated like toys with fun, colourful graphics! Nobody cares... Finding Stranda has given me some peace on that end, hahaha... ;-)

    • @kaidame3499
      @kaidame3499 4 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Kinda got it 🙈 So next time I Grab my Board and take it into the shop while looking for a new deck. For example Capita lists some of the longest effective edges on their specs. Nitro on the other hand has some very short running length specified ... some of them I really enjoy as a tall light guy.
      I kinda have an idea why I didn't like riding Capita boards in the past. Never was enjoying how they turned. They always felt straight to me if this is the right way to describe it.

    • @kaidame3499
      @kaidame3499 4 месяца назад

      Just had to check on my current Nitro board. It says 1090mm running length in the specs. Just come close to this number, when I press the camber down and measure all the base touching the floor.
      From contact point to contact point (middle of widest point) it's somewhat 80mm longer, coming in at 1170mm. Still a long way to go to reach those numbers Capita is claiming on similar shaped boards in their lineup 🤷‍♂️

  • @Bohdisattva326
    @Bohdisattva326 4 месяца назад +1

    Ultra dream is an amazing deck. I regret selling it

  • @MatthewsAG
    @MatthewsAG 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for the great explanation and examples.
    I'm 6'5 and about 180lbs with a size 12 boot. Long time looking for something but finally landed on a Salomon Louif 163. Really not looking for something too long for staying nimble in the trees. What are your thoughts?

  • @brohammer
    @brohammer 4 месяца назад

    Hey Lars- can you check out the lib tech skunk ape c3 (camber) ultra wide in 170 and let me know what you think of it ? For an off the shelf board it seems perfect for me as I’m 6’3” and around 230lbs with a 12 boot. I’m really looking at the cheater but I’m worried it’s a tad too small width wise. Thoughts ?

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      That may work as a board for you. Lib almost always build the boards with a twin flex. I prefer stiffer tail than nose. But that’s preference.

    • @brohammer
      @brohammer 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel thank you for the quick reply!

  • @evanjohnson1740
    @evanjohnson1740 Месяц назад

    Ive been riding for 25 years and am 6'2, 210-220 size 11 boots. I grew up riding a full camber 166 for 15 years. I went to a 159 and 156 orca. Didn't like rocker and so much less effective edge for stability. Then bought a 163 berzerker, and also a 165w flagship. I found I love riding stiff, stable boards. So I found a nitro pantera 166w and purchased it. I won't be able to ride it until next season but get intimidated by how much effective edge there is being full camber and extremely stiff. I'm advanced/expert and love riding steep technical terrain in the PNW. Will it take some time getting used to full camber in a long stiff package?

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  Месяц назад

      Yeah… the Pantera in that length is quite a Beast!! That’s my main reason for Stranda: I can opt for a long board without being punished by crazy stiffness. Maybe for your weight it’ll be just fine. It surely doesn’t compare to your Orca… 😅 It’s subjective… you’ll see. It’s a great board, but you certainly can’t be lazy on it!!

    • @evanjohnson1740
      @evanjohnson1740 Месяц назад

      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I thought about getting the 163w but I don't think it would make much of a difference with the stiffness.

  • @paulserwatuk4806
    @paulserwatuk4806 4 месяца назад

    Im looking for a dedicated carver very hard choice.

  • @Rancor39
    @Rancor39 4 месяца назад

    Lars sorry if you covered this already but would you mind sharing how tall you are and what stance widths you ride on your boards? Thanks

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      It's somewhat irrelevant, because of my proportions. I'm 5'9.5" but have the inseam of the average 6'1" person combined with the pelvis/hip with of a teenager... Hahaha (29 waist in pants, bony...). I ride 53cm most of the time. 51 on the Cheater 200, sometimes 55 on the Descender. Depends a lot on mobility (which I don't have much of) and how your femur sits in your hip socket... So all my info from the videos is just a starting point for an average person. It can't be much better. People have to experiment consciously and pay attention to what changes with the changes made. Have fun! :-)

    • @Rancor39
      @Rancor39 4 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel thanks Lars that is really helpful info to have for comparison.

  • @jessehill3780
    @jessehill3780 4 месяца назад

    Interesting and makes a lot of sense. Is contact length same as effective edge? If so I’m a bit confused then since I have two boards a GNU RC 157.5 that has a 119 contact length and then I got a GNU hyper 160 that says it has a 117 contact length. They should ride fairly close which is what I was after since I love how playful and quick the RC is but just wanted a second directional powder board with same character. The hyper 160 is great and did what I want but I’d still say it’s not as quick to turn even though technically contact length is shorter. Maybe it’s just because it’s stiffer? Either way both work but seems I like turny boards so good to know I should stick around a 120 contact length. 6ft 180lbs.

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +2

      Incredible but true: some manufacturers call effective edge contact length, others call the base length that touches the ground contact length (which is correct)... It's nuts! It's all over the map! Mervin are the worst: on some boards they measure setback off of the effective edge (which is the way to go) and on others they measure it off of the physical board length (which is utter nonsense)..... It's so disappointing that snowboarding is such a fashion show where few people care... Sorry for the negativity, but man..... It's simply sad!

    • @jessehill3780
      @jessehill3780 4 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channelyea totally understandable when there’s no real standards. Same can be said for oil weights is suspension fluids where one brands 5w is another’s 7w etc.. but at least there is a viscosity at 40c cst rating to fall back on. Either way both boards worked out for what I wanted but I do find myself interested in a fast ultra turny pow board like your first board.

    • @elho001
      @elho001 4 месяца назад

      ​@@Justaride-Snowboard-ChannelNothing wrong with a good and well justified rant. 😀

    • @Rancor39
      @Rancor39 4 месяца назад

      Your hyper is probably wider which could contribute to sluggish turning. Also I don’t know how they measure EE on an asym board it would be different theoretically on each side. But heel side to heelside RC should turn in way faster with shorter sidecut radius think it was 7 or less while hyper is an 8. I would also imagine longer EE on RC must be measured off heelside edge but toeside would be less than that of hyper. Not knocking either board I ride and like both

    • @jessehill3780
      @jessehill3780 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Rancor39waist width is about same 25.6 hyper vs 25.5 RC (mine a bit older and I think 25.3 but pretty close). I think you’re onto something with the radius though. It was one thing I couldn’t decide between hyper and orca is hyper is narrower but mellower radius where orca is wider but tighter radius. I had a wide board in the past and didn’t like the response in trees so I stuck with traditional narrower. Love both boards but eventually I’ll have to try an orca or similar just to find out for myself what handles better in powder tree runs for me. And yes the RC is quite the fun little zippy board in an out of trees in mellower soft days.

  • @digitalysed
    @digitalysed 4 месяца назад

    Oh man, I’m a 158 / 159, that’s my sweet spot! 🤣😂🤣

  • @meisterkleister1262
    @meisterkleister1262 4 месяца назад

    Hallo Lars, sehr lange bin ich jetzt schon auf der Suche nach einem passenden Carvingboard für mich! Ich bin dieser Typ Mann den du anfangs beschreibst; 170 cm 90 kg nur leider kommen dann auch noch kleine Füße dazu (Ride insano 8,5😢) Ich hab alle deine Videos gesehen! Mein Ziel: so tief in die kurve mit Posi posi wie möglich ;) Da es sehr schwierig is kompetente Verkäufer zu finden, hast du vielleicht einen Tipp welcher Hersteller so spezifische Boards herstellt? 🙄 Lg aus Wien!

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад

      Wie lang darf das board denn sein? Die Frage is extrem schwer zu beantworten mit den tausenden von Brettern da draußen...

    • @meisterkleister1262
      @meisterkleister1262 4 месяца назад

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Die Länge is grundsätzlich egal. Ich fahr seit 12 Jahren. Ja ich weiß die Frage is schwierig.. Danke trotzdem!

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      @@meisterkleister1262 mein lieblings carving board ist Stranda Cheater 170. Das kannst du problemlos fahren mit deinem Gewicht. Radius is 8,5m, also easy!! Die effektive Kante ist 143 cm...... so viel grip, aber ein freundliches, laufruhiges Brett!

  • @dawidjuros474
    @dawidjuros474 4 месяца назад +1

    I must do a break at 8:03 it's time to work... But I'm soooo impresed and would listen, than grab My gear and move on to find some snow if I could. Your Wisdom makes Me wanna ride and experiment. Thank You Sir... Bro 😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🏂🏂🏂💪💪💪🏄🏄🏄

  • @bopuc
    @bopuc 4 месяца назад +1

    Yeah never understood this "fixed board length" mentality. Same with stances. Use what works for the conditions on the day, the situation of the terrain available, and the kind of riding/feelings you want to do/have that day. Sure, if you can't afford more than one board, and/or you can only get out once in a while, the practical line leads to finding an optimal size/shape to cover you ("daily drivers", "quiver killers", "quiver of one")… but believing that only one size (and only one stance) is the "right one" for you? That's ridiculous right? :)
    (My boards range from 157 to 178. I ride with dudes who are 5 foot and they spend most of the season on 208cm Nitro Canons… Not only is it possible, it's what they want.)

  • @cb1p111
    @cb1p111 4 месяца назад

    He is teaching him how to split ski? 2:42
    Didn't get the joke... Maybe because I'm German.
    At the end of the season... When it's cold and no firewood is left... I'll go in my backyard... TO SPLIT SKI.
    NO NEED TO SPLIT BOARDS...

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      Split skiing is skiing on a splitboard!!
      In tour mode!
      The joke was that I'm not having a skier on my shirt, but a snowboarder after all... ;-)

  • @Bohdisattva326
    @Bohdisattva326 4 месяца назад +1

    Almost every person I know rides a board that’s too small for them the calls the board “washy” - sketchy at speed. and complains about “edgehold”. I’m looking at u “the good ride” 😊

    • @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel
      @Justaride-Snowboard-Channel  4 месяца назад +1

      I hear ya! Not sure what The Good Ride are saying, but at the end of the day it's the snowboard industry dictating this mindset of 'go shorter, it's better for you! so much more fun!' without telling the whole story. It's personal preference, and you're right, I hear the same thing a lot. But most people wouldn't consider that length is the issue, because all they hear everywhere is that they should buy this new downsized thing here! People are being scared away from longer lengths, because those boards are all way too stiff ; like, built for people that weigh 240 lbs+.... Thing to consider: building shorter boards is cheaper, while the board's price stays the same.... My personal conspiracy! :-) Hahaha....

    • @Bohdisattva326
      @Bohdisattva326 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel 10000%. Great video