Deadly Silence - 1999 South Dakota Learjet Crash
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On October 25, 1999, a chartered Learjet 35 was scheduled to fly from Orlando, Florida, to Dallas, Texas.
The fact that the jet could continue flying for hours while the people inside were all frozen corpses is both fascinating and terrifying. Not to mention sad.
Sprightly It happened with a bigger aircraft too
@@Bullish_Lauren What was it?
Sprightly Helios Airways flight 522. A 737 I think
@@Bullish_Lauren still worse! The steward found himself still alive in a ghost plane full of bodies!
Auto pilot
As an ex Army pilot all of our flight crews went through high altitude training back in 1965 prior to ferrying our CV-2 Caribous to Vietnam. Inside the chamber at an equivalent altitude of 29,000 we took turns two by two and removed our masks and played the child's game of patty-cake for a few moments. We then replaced our masks when instructed, or so we thought. At the debriefing we were each told what we had actually done and it was not patty-cake. Many of us could not even follow the simple instructions to re mask and had to be forcibly held down and the mask was put back on by the instructors. I realized that hypoxia causes one to hallucinate almost instantly. It is not a gradual loss of cognitive function that can be recognized like say drinking alcohol. Hypoxia is frighteningly quick and it is very hard to understand what is happening before it is too late.
Fuck you and your army, CW2TRH! Is this about the people who died in a plane crash, or is this about you?
@Wubba Wubba , I like your reply.
@@seansorrell5946 that was a weird like episode you had there. Funny, I knew another guy with the same last name and he was wack job too.
Thanks for the explanation and your service!!!
Thank you for your service!
Payne was a true champion. It breaks my heart at how early he perished. Love this guy. Watching him play was a joy. R.I.P. Mr. Stewart. You are sorely missed.
Payne Stewart was wonderful golfer and fierce competitor, but also a real gentleman. RIP
A great golfer but apparently not that great of a pilot.
@r33mote Colin Montgomerie?
I met Payne Stewart at the British Open many years ago. A true gentleman in every respect. Signed autographs, and posed for photos. I was devastated when this accident occurred.
@Daniel Johnston Thanks for that. I never noticed it. Very embarrassed!!
I was 11 at the time. And that was a creepy, eerie few hours, following that plane knowing there was no life on board.
I’m no expert, but as far as deaths go, hypoxia is probably a more peaceful way to go because you don’t feel like you’re dying, it just feels like you’re really sleepy. Few minutes later and that’s it. At least they didn’t suffer, Rest In Peace
That’s what I was thibking
Agreed, I can’t imagine what it was like for all the other victims of other plane crashes where they were fully conscious and aware that they were gonna hit the ground :/
This is the best re-creation I've seen on Payne's and others' final flight. Very sad. But glad it was over countryside.
Am I the only one that's wondering what the military jets would have had to do IF the lear jet had been low on fuel over a heavily populated area ?
@@rickobrien4025 you can Google or ask somone what that protocol is, by assumption is that if they can confirm there is nothing happening in the cabin and no response and it is losing control is to shoot it down if they are high enough where the pieces would scatter so it does not affect anyone too badly, if they were lower or over a city I do not know, but I'd bet the USAF does.
@@rickobrien4025 I imagine they check where it's heading and where it's likely to crash and shoot it down somehwere in the open if it's heading to a populated area.
I believe they were looking at that option. It crashed only 10 miles away from a town of 25,000 (Aberdeen, SD - where I live)
@@rickobrien4025 Perhaps the plane could be controlled by the towers, to be redirected towards a rural area ..idk tho, but I'm assuming this as an option
Robert Fraley was my friend. He was a very good person. RIP
Tim Pendergrass May he rest in peace
Tim Pendergrass So sorry for your loss.
@@kdevus You seem nice
kdev just because you have no friends doesn’t mean other people don’t. Also, in case you wondered, your friends ghosted you because you’re an asshole.
kdev You’re the type of person who will never be visited at your funeral in the future.
I remember when this happened. The news stations were reporting on it for hours with the knowledge that all on board were probably already dead. There were rumors that they may take the plane down if it was going to hit a populated area. Stewart had never been more popular, with a less abrasive personality and it greatly hit the sporting world.
The Air Force was watching to see if the plane would clear Memphis and St. Louis in particular. They also wanted to know if the plane could make it to Canada...but then realized it would not. Canadian authorities were prepared to shoot the plane down before it could crash into Winnipeg.
Payne Stewart......always wore those funky pants and that Scottish looking hat. He was an amazing golfer. They will all be missed.
Payne was a friend of my brother n law. This was a terrible day Great person..RIP
Likewise, Michael. My brother-in-law is a professional conditioning expert and he worked with Payne. Just heartbreaking...
RIP Payne. He was before my time and I was born too late to ever be able to see him play live unfortunately. Nevertheless, he was and will always be a legend whose iconic style and buttery smooth swing will never be forgotten.
Excellent recreation of this tragic flight, Xpilot. You are easily one of the top flight recreationists on RUclips.
Rektspresso he was a pretty smooth character. Great short game and always big when the moment was big
he was a spoilled prick, ego a mile long with few friends.
nikcsdad1 Wow. You really knew him. Were you guy`s neighbors or something ?
Probably a troll...
@Ol' Malley's Alley Lol sure.
This happened when I was in seventh grade and I still remember the absolute shock I felt coming home from school after watching on the news. Especially after watching his dramatic win in the US Open just four months earlier. RIP Payne Stewart and colleagues.
RIP To all on board, including Payne Stewart
Bummer that NONE of the actual radio conversations were included in this video. I remember hearing the military pilots' radio transmissions on the news at the time.
I wonder if the autopilot software could be modified to automatically drop to a lower altitude if a catastrophic depressurization was detected and automatically squawk an 7700 emergency. It would buy time for the pilots and passengers to regain consciousness and hopefully land the plane safely.
Gary Cameron
Indeed, excellent logic makes 1000% common sense. I believe when I was watching this unfold that this very aspect of things was brought up on one of the major networks might have been CNN.
Gary Cameron Very good point. I remember this crash. What a tragedy. RIP.
Gary Cameron The A350 can do that
Today's electronics can do anything designers want it to do.
Cat 3 landings to pilotless flights.
Exactly. There should be something like this
Thank you for not keying in the awful dirge at the end like others do. The deserved tribute to Stewart is sufficient. Well done.
What like Chopin?
it's amazing that they managed to scramble all this jets yet when 4 passenger planes were hijacked not a single jet was available.
Fighter jets were already scrambled looking for Flight 77 just before it crashed.
The first two crashes occurred within 17 minutes of each other and no one understood what was going on until United 175 crashed into the South Tower at 9:03 AM. By that point, 2,700 people were already doomed.
Who said none were available? Conspriacy theoristi?
That’s bc they thought their was hijacks all across the country
There were no passenger planes, look closely hidden videos they are missile and a military tanker plane just to crusade iraq and afghanistan
I believe there were 2-4 Fighter jets on maneuvers from Ma,NJ or NY over the Atlantic on that Day.They were just too far out and sh!t went down too quick for them to respond.Only flight 93 was actually intercepted,but the passengers acted before the USAF Pilot(s) were going to shoot them down.
Thats crazy that within 15 minutes 0919 to 0933) it went from a routine flight to everyone dead of hypoxia.
I remember this because of Payne Stewart. What a legend. Condolences to all the families that lost folks.
8:32 _They also find that the emergency pressurization checklist instructs pilots to troubleshoot the problem before donning their oxygen masks._
I find it unfathomable that any experienced pilot wouldn't have thought their way around this obvious error. It is likely that they lost consciousness before they could even start running the checklist anyway.
PressRecord That’s not true, on the 737 at least.
1: Don oxygen masks, establish crew communications.
2: Perform rapid depressurisation checklist.
hypoxic hypoxia is a tricky thing. at ~12'000FT - 15'000FT ASL, judgement, memory-loss, alertness and coordination performance drop drastically. you also feel euphoric and belligerence may settle in. our bodies also dont have an oxygen warning system in place, so you wont even feel these effects settle in, similar to carbon monoxide poisoning where you cant smell or taste carbon monoxide or feel the poisonous effects of it.
@@mgoblue0970 those arent fatal altitudes. those are the altitudes that the effects of hypoxic hypoxia start to settle in. 18000 ft is where it starts to become fatal of itself. airplanes regularly go way past this altitude.
regardless, not being mentally sound isnt exactly a safe state for a plane to be in. think of it like driving with a buzz but not completely drunk. still possible to drive, but not exactly the safest thing to you or other people.
@@mgoblue0970: Gradual ascent into elevation is something the human body can accept/endure, within limitations.
However, a rapid pressurization/depressurization event is classic medical crisis. You slowly become acclimated to 12000' during your ascent, where atmospheric pressure approaches ~60 kPa (~100 kPa @ sea level.) Majority of the global population lives below 5000' (normal 'cabin altitude' on commercial aircraft ~80 kPa = 11.8 psi) and doesn't handle decreased atmos well. The inflection point of 15000' is where things turn dangerous. Even experienced climbers have difficulty compensating for Moore's law at this level. North Base Camp had registered marked increase in high altitude complications: pulmonary/cerebral edema (HAPE/HACE.) Accessible roadways into the Himalayan region of Tibet is considered a casual factor, when inexperienced climbers strive to ascend Everest on their *ahem* schedule.
They are trained to follow checklists reguardless of what they feel about the situation
I was the Airfield Operations Flight CC at Scott AFB when this was occuring. I remember hearing about the inbound and then the F-16 coming in to refuel and I belive it was armed at the time. I have been through rapid decompression training and you know when it suddenly occurs (loud noise/boom and fog occurs) and you don the mask, but a slow leak probably occured or failure to pressurize as another poster and they all went to sleep. Sad. Great simulation btw.
I saw this plane and the fighter jets that day about 20 minutes before the crash. They flew right over top of me. I didn’t have a radio or anything on to know what exactly was happening but I knew something was wrong when the fighter jets were tailing it. It is one of those things that you never forget.
adeereplowboy .. about what altitude were they? I saw the space shuttle on a 747 fly over baton rouge once!!
Richard Howe I can’t say exactly but they were 3,000+ pretty easy. They weren’t as high as all of the commercial airliners that fly over though.
adeereplowboy . thanks for the reply
I remember being at work when we heard about this on the news. We were following it as it was happening. It was so heartachingly sad.
my best friend in high school was the captain of the golf team and later got a full ride to a university for golf. as a result, i became a golf fan even if i wasnt any good. being thrust into the sport, i immediately latched onto payne stewart as his style (flat caps and knickers) i thought were super cool. i said to myself 'here is a guy who wants to make a statement and doesnt care if anyone doesnt like it, and hes good enough to back that up'. years later when he passed, i was deeply saddened even if it had been a long time since i had really followed the sport, and long lost touch with my friend. what a sad, sad video. dying a plane crash is truly horrible, but there is something really outside the box and just sad about this one. RIP payne, thanks for making a high school kid feel like it was OK to have an outsider style and follow your own lead instead of others.
His “outsider” style was due to his being born into a wealthy family and thinking his shit didn’t stink. He was initially despised by his fellow pros. I saw him up close at the Shark Shootout and thought he was an asshole.
God...i remember watching this live....and it was heartbreaking
I was a marshal in the Michelob Championship at Kingsmill tournament in Virginia the year before (98), and there was a hold up on the green (4th hole), so Payne and his caddie were standing in the fairway with us far away from the gallery, we talked for about ten minutes, they both seemed like really great guys. I was very impressed, most of the pros aren't that nice to the volunteers. He mentioned that this was a tough hole, and I told him he was going to birdie it. After he hits his shot very close to the pin, he turned around and walked over to me and gave me his golf glove (Top Flite) and said if he made that putt he would buy me a drink after the round. He made that putt for birdie, but I never went to the clubhouse after the round. I should have, would have been memorable. He seemed down to earth to me and not arrogant at all, and he and his caddie actually liked each other. It was a great moment, and he will always be my favorite golfer. He finished tied for fourth that year. RIP
I am from Aberdeen, SD which is about 10 miles east of where this crash happened. Sad day...my dad was a huge golf fan.
I really didn’t know Payne Stewart all that well, but I was still shocked about this plane crash. RIP Payne.
I watched this live on tv when it happened. Had to have been extremely rapid or even explosive decompression to take out everyone inside at the same time. I read it was a valve failure, Lear knew of the issue because it had happened before. I have never, and will never fly on a Lear after this incident. Once again the plane manufactures save money by not fixing known issues and good people die as a result. Yeah Boeing, that was a shout out to you as well.
My goodness you will never ever fly private so what’s the point. Probably boredom!
I agree. I wouldn't fly on a Learjet branded aircraft on a bet.
I remember this all to well. This was well put together / created.
My dad was a huge golf fan and this hit him hard. Stewart was and is a legend.
Remember this well... it was being covered like the LA media covers car chases. It was surreal and everyone knew that it would eventually crash, which it in fact did.
It must have been horrible to everyone involved, knowing there was NOTHING they could do to save that aircraft and its occupants! Controllers, ground personnel, the fighter-jets from several AFBs went up to see what they could and when they saw the frosted cockpit window, they KNEW they had lost pressurization and were no doubt dead. Sadly, there was just NOTHING anyone could do!
Hypoxia and anoxia can be such insidious conditions, often catching people off guard. The pilots HAD to know what was going on but the passengers probably weren't aware of how critical it was, at least we hope not. All were no doubt unconscious long before the aircraft went down and crashed.
I like the way you narrate the entire story as clearly as possible. Best narration ever. Felt like watching a movie...
These videos are amazing! Such great detail!
I believe the last 30 seconds was real footage
Thank you for posting this
Really enjoyed this video. Will be checking out more of your vids. Such a sad, frightening story, but good work! Only thing that would make this better would be snippets of the actual ATC recordings, but I don't know how hard those are to get. Anyways, thanks for creating and sharing!
An other great documentation. Very informative and plainly explained what happened. Thanks for your work.
RIP all on board - not only the golfer!
Amazing as always!
I remember that day.. I live only 10 miles from where it went down. The NTSB used a hanger at KABR to collect the aircraft remains. I knew some of the guys that worked at the FBO and saw pictures of it and being a pilot myself, the images are burned into my memory.
M Detlef They put the remains of the plane in a hangar. How is that so hard to believe?
@Redwingsfan
M Detlef may have been high on drugs and staring into his closet at the time.
@@emansnas 🤣🤣
We just got done painting one when this happened. I will never forget it.
DOBRINICH CHANNEL I feel bad, the work was all for nothing... you deserved better
@@jackthorton10 Painting "one", not the particular plane involved in the crash.
Is it me or does business jets always look newer then what they actually are. This Learjet for example, I was thinking is was built in the 90s but was actually built in the 70s, business jets have always had modern designs
Joel Worsley not modern but the design hasn't changed much
They upgrade paint and interiors to keep them up to date as well.
Aerodynamics don't change much. Watch an old episode of Mission Impossible. Everything else looks old school, but the jets still look recent.
They get repainted and reupholstered by the rich owners.
The first Lear 23 was copied off of a Swiss fighter jet
Thankyou for sharing a painful lesson.
These xpilot films are superb.
I haven’t seen any comments about the beautiful song that Vince Gill wrote in tribute to his friend Payne. “Hey God”
Sad event. I feel for their families.
Another great X Pilot recreation.
@XPilot We're about to recreate this same sim footage for our channel on a story on Payne Stewart and was wondering if instead we used a few clips from yours and credit you? Not sure if you'd be interested, but thought I'd ask.
It's great that someone is doing these kind of videos with software that isn't from the 1930's
Yep, I’m using MicroSoft Flight Simulator 1932 while listening to Herbert Hoover deliver his speech on the radio box 👌
I remember this. I still have the article from the paper. I was like 10. That’s so scary that we put our trust into the hands of people to make sure that everything on the flight goes well. But honestly this is probably the best way to go in a plane crash.
Bxbby Xarcia
You put your life in other peoples hands everyday just driving your car. Your at the mercy of the guy that did your breaks and the teenage first time driver who thinks it’s ok to text while learning to drive. Scary driving these days. Everyday I see people swerving and sure enough there on there phone doing 80mph
I was 7 years old when this happend. Had no idea about it, am from England. Watched a documentary of this years ago & this one stands oit alot for me. Still facinates me how it all unfolded.
Dude, I Love This Channel And Your Videos! Please, Continue To Make Videos! :) 😍🤓🙃
Fly high, captain.
Wow...this is crazy! Poor people, didn't know what hit them it seems. Lucky it crashed in a rural area and not into a neighborhood.
Laurie a
If they were over a popularized area the plane likely would have been shot down as it ran out of fuel. Still would have been wreckage falling from the sky but much smaller pieces. I believe that is one of the reasons the F-16's were there. RIP Payne. Enjoyed watching him play golf. He was good.
The a/c would have had an "aircraft cabin altitude" indicator on the panel. This is an altimeter that tells the altitude of the interior of the a/c based on the internal pressure. The pilots apparently did not look at that....which is a surprise as the pilots, during flight, would be expected to monitor and adjust the cabin altitude (internal pressure) to be a consistent altitude. Having experienced 3 very high altitude decompressions, I will tell you that there is plenty of time for the pilot's to react (put on their O2 masks) IF they realize the the air pressure has decreased. It is the slowness of O2 deprivation that makes the process difficult to recognize.
They knew where it was going to run out of fuel, if it was going to crash in a populated area they would have shot it down.
I remember when this was on the news and we were waiting for updates on whether the people on the plane would be okay, and then to hear when it would crash.
The footage of Stewart cheering a putt being synced with the text saying everyone died is a bit awkward...
I had it on mute. But I think the photo should have been followed by at least one image of the 5 others on the plane.
Paynes agent was also the agent for then Jaguars head coach Tom Coughlin if I remember correctly. I remember AF planes followed it. Sad indeed but if there was a silver lining is that it went down outside of a populated area and the AF jets didnt have to take action
From what I was told by people close to the event...it was NOT a depressurization issue, rather a failure to pressurize. The aircraft had failed to pressurize the day before, so the mechanics replaced a valve on the engine trying to correct the problem but did not test fly to verify the repair. Payne Stewart was a popular golfer but known to be a real pain (pun intended) to deal with and when the aircraft failed to pressurize again...which meant their flight would either be late or cancelled....neither pilot wanted to be the one to tell Mr Stewart that they'd have to alter the flight plan. Meanwhile the auto-pilot was set to climb and Lear's climb FAST....so the timespan from 'hey...we're not getting cabin pressure (about 9-10,000 ft) to black-out is only a very short while and when it's spent 'you go tell Mr. Stewart that we're going to be late....no, YOU go tell him! then they pass out and the aircraft continues its' set climb until it can't go any higher....then flies until it runs out of fuel.
The fellow who told me this account knew the person at Learjet who did the fuel calculations as to where the aircraft would run out and crash, and I trust his version of the event. It fits with what others have said about Mr Stewart's personality and despite the smile you saw all the time on TV...he was a bit of a bastard to work for. The F-16's would have helped the aircraft to come down if the calculations had predicted it crashing into a populated area...make no mistake about that. They were pretty confident that it would only hit pasture and maybe the stray cow so they let nature take its' course. The calculations ended up being within a few miles of accurate which is pretty impressive IMHO. They were all frozen solid by the time they impacted so trying to ID the remains would have been a terrible mess....fractured bits all jammed into a hole. Very ugly. RIP to all involved.
Recoil Rob failure to pressurize would have been identified long before they lost communications...thus causing a need to stay low and possibly return to land
'Long before'...eh? How long? At the climb rate a Lear can do....it's about 30 seconds before black-out or less. You would think that the pilots wouldn't have done what they did...but you'd be wrong and the smoking hole in the ground proves it. Consider also that if it WERE a decompression event....they should have immediately donned their oxygen masks and brought the aircraft to a safe altitude...but they didn't. So...what do YOU think happened?
Automatic cabin pressurization is easily observed by the pilots, so they are aware of it in real time.
Comm pilot 40 yrs.
Let me add that pressurization starts right after takeoff and increases with altitude. They probably would have had 8500 ft cabin pressure at 39,000.
Very cool info, thanks
Great video, very informative. You just got a new subscriber 👍Any chances of you doing David Coulthard's 2000 or Graham Hill's 1975 plane crashes in the future?
No doubt the pilots were never notified that this jet had recent history of cabin pressure issue(s).
A loud warning beep and bright flashing light should be installed in all planes to let the pilots know to quickly descend to a lower breathable altitude...Same thing happened with a Greek airliner, the air leaked out and everybody became unconscious or died and the plane continued flying on autopilot til the fuel ran out and it crashed, killing everybody aboard.
I think it's safe to say they were all dead long before the plane crashed. and yes they are warned about it but there's not much that they can do in rapid depressurization. The alarm would have to be mighty loud in order for dead people to respond to it.
In this Learjet vid the air apparently leaked out slowly so they didn't know it was getting thinner and blacked out, otherwise the pilot could have donned an oxy mask and descended....When the same thing happened in the Greek airliner, they got a warning light but for some reason they didn't see it.
There have been rapid depressurizations in airliners when a cargo door blows out with a loud bang, followed by oxy masks dropping for the passengers, and loud warning beeps in the cockpit, so the pilots are in no doubt about what happened and will descend to a breathable altitude......So in a way, slow silent leaks like in this Learjet video are more dangerous because they go undetected and the pilot eventually blacks out without any warning.
yeah and if im correct the average person only has 3 to 5 minutes before death or at least incapacitation
Horns and lights are indeed installed on jet aircrafts. On the LR-35 the horn comes on at 10100ft.
Having flown the same model, I am still perplexed to this day as to how neither pilot noticed the lack of pressurization. I could feel it in my body every time. Plus, cabin pressure is displayed right there on the panel in front of the FO. Every pilot should have hypoxia recognition training as well. I did mine at Newport News.
An experienced pilot of over 4000 hours and on several platforms. Doesn't sound right to me.
I had heard that these were ex-military pilots with very few Type'd hours (or just completed the Type training) in the Lear. I think there was speculation that the pressurization wasn't set properly in part that the military aircraft these guys flew in the past automatically adjusted the pressure. Something like that. I keep my flying limited to a single engine below 12K so I'm not too familiar with the operations.
It's surprising how many of these crashes came from the crew's not having their minds on the job: in the 1977 Tenerife crash the Dutch pilot hadn't been given take-off clearance, only route-clearance out of the airport: in a confused radio situation all he had to do was to take a few seconds to check whether he DID have that all-important t/o. clearance after all, but was too impatient to do so, in spite of the possibility of running into another plane that had lost its position in fog during a complicated ground-movement.
@@rileycpo Mr. Payne's widow wrote a book about this a couple years later...she said the woman co-pilot was a substitute for the regular co-pilot and the crew was surprised when she showed up at the last minute to fly...who really knows what happened??
@@arlapieper7 She was a stooge, hired by Tiger Woods to sabotage the flight.
God damn that was one expensive investigation...flying four F-16s out to check on them ain't cheap.
What price do you place on peoples.lives,military spends that a thousand times over every day just doing basic drills and keeping pilots hrs up. Idiot
I remember following this story live on the internet, as I live in Jax, it was huge from the beginning here.
I live in baker county.
This happened to me. In January 1977 I was on my way to basic training at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Texas. We flew out of Atlanta on our way to Texas. Don’t remember the altitude but I think it was around 30,000 feet. We were over the Gulf of Mexico at night. I remember being on the right side of the plane admiring the city lights along the Gulf coast; It made me think of a necklace. Suddenly a cool breeze swept through the cabin and the oxygen masks dropped in front of us. I wasted no time putting it on even before we were ordered to. All at once the horizon pitched to about a 45 degree angle and we were going down fast as the pitch of the engines increased to a sickening whine. It seemed like we fell for minutes! I thought we were all dead. People were screaming. It was horrific! Once the pilots got us down to an altitude where we could breathe, the plane leveled off and ONLY then did the captain tell us the plane had lost a compressor and we experienced a rapid decompression. We diverted to Dallas where they hearded us directly onto another plane and flew us the rest of the way to San Antonio. I guess they figured we’d escape if they gave us a chance 😂. I thank God I can laugh about it now. I had an ear infection for the first 2 weeks of basic. What an experience!
Great LARP story.
Scott Adams ..wow! Do you still fly? I remember in the 70's I used to fly a lot because I had a import export business..I loved to fly in and out of Miami at night because the lights and the reflection looked like beautiful jewels..I guess it still looks the same. I have not flown anywhere in thirty years. Guess that's fixing to change because I am moving to the Philippines to enjoy my retirement..
Interesting. So in decompression they nose over and go screaming for that oxygen-rich air down below! That would HAVE to be scary as hell! I guess I always assumed they'd drop the oxygen masks down and that would be it...no panic. Probably for both safety and liability they can't assume everybody is awake and alert and got their mask on. Makes sense. But Yikes!!
Richard Howe
I do fly occasionally. Not afraid of it but I usually remember that day every time I do. Enjoy your retirement
No reset button in real life. RIP to everyone on the plane. Payne was a great guy.
That was an incredible recreation of this horrible accident.
I met Payne at Arnies tourney at Bay Hill in 1996. He was super nice and took time to talk to me and pose for a pic. Such a sad story and loss to the golfing world.
Sad story:( RIP Stewart n 5 others.
Without so much money up their butts - not one of them would be dead, because they would have flown 'commercial'!
I remember CNN covering this live.
Good videos sir,subbed 😊
RIP to everyone on that plane
8:15 XD he messed up the video with that sport.
That was simply a reminiscent shot of Stewart, one of the victims. He was a golf champion
I don't know if this is mentioned, but the typical temperature outside a plane at 35,000+ feet is probably about negative -50 degrees, you wouldn't last long with a rapid depressurization and that much cold
Cool statue of Payne at Coyote Hills GC in Fullerton CA!! Tough course!!
The tail codes you picked for the F-16s were interesting. "RS" was Ramstein Air Base Germany. In the late 80s they got rid of their F-16s. "ET" was Eglin AFB (and they use EG).
Another excellent video. I’m now thinking that this is what happened to that 2014 Malaysian Airlines flight...
That's a possibility
I was flying the air refueling tanker that day and can say this is a rather accurate account of the events. As for the comments to this post ....... well, ....... it reaffirms my belief that many people don't know much about ...... aircraft, the science of aviation, or how the aviation industry and/or military aviation works.
The best you can say about this is that they were all unconscious and likely dead before they hit the ground. Unlike so many other crashes where terrified people know their death is imminent.
I know…
I remember this well. I was an FAA certificated A&P Mechanic at Cessna Aircraft Company, just across the ramp from Learjet. So very, very sad. RIP, Payne Stewart.
Even the tower control feel guilty about this accident :(
The end of every X Pilot video: "The plane was destroyed"
Me: Yeah, no fucking shit.
I was a crew member on the University of North Dakota's Cessna Citation II weather research aircraft from 1984 to 1993. I was the instrument engineer and experienced the very thing that killed the crew on Payne Stewart's plane. Our crew probably survived because of my realization that I was experiencing hypoxia.
I participated in the altitude chamber training at Ellsworth AFB a few years prior. Our plane had a notorious cabin pressure leak at high altitude. We had an SF6 detection instrument on board, which was VERY sensitive to cabin pressure changes. We were flying at near the aircraft's service ceiling and this instrument started drifting badly. I asked the pilot to stabilize the cabin pressure so I could get accurate readings. It was no use, the cabin pressure kept decreasing.
We had a sensor in the electronics that would disconnect power from the research equipment when cabin pressure hit 17,000 feet, or something like that. I knew we were going to lose power soon, so I started taking notes on what was going on. Suddenly I forgot how to write. It was then that I remembered being unable to write was a symptom of O2 depravation.
I immediately yelled to the pilot, "Roger, drop the masks now!!" He did and we all survived to tell the story, although I was the only one that ever did.
The call sign of our jet was 77ND and is currently in a KS boneyard. It crashed in AK due to ice ingestion during a Sikorsky helicopter icing certification experiment.
I hope you enjoyed this little narrative. I enjoy sharing it.
How very sad .. at least these poor souls didn't know the fear and terror that most feel with air incidents.
Susan Fagan ..I hope I die in my sleep like my father and mother.. maybe it runs in the family I hope..the way people drive on the highway it's a good chance that I will die in a automobile accident..
It's a shame they don't have the technology to just grab that plane midair and haul it back to safety.
All the people inside were long dead by the time anyone arrived.
or just take over the planes functions and tell it to auto land safely.
Oddly enough, the tech does exist but they’re still keeping most of it under wraps as I believe it was used on 9/11 when fully remote military aircrafts were painted to look like commercial airliners and flown remotely into buildings. At least, that’s what I believe happened.
Even if you don’t wanna have that debate right now, which I totally get, there’s still the remote-controlled plane that was purposely flown and crashed in the desert during an experiment showing what happens to the human body, as well as all the internal cabin parts, when a plane crash-lands.
I’m going to assume this technology is expensive to manufacture and maintain.
I think, in the future, ALL planes are going to have the capability to be taken over and landed remotely, say if a hijacker gets in the cockpit or the pilot/pilots die mid-flight
On the darker side of tech like that however, I could totally see hackers remotely commandeering planes from 10,000+ miles away in a SIM with the passengers being none the wiser 😐😐😐😐😐
Scary thought!
@@danielbrown1724 lol you believe something that no evidence demonstrates to be true. United Airlines and American Airlines reitrdd the aircraft numbers to those planes because they are destroyed, people inside the aircraft called loved ones, the air traffic controllers got messages from the hijackers thinking they were talking to the passengers about "having some planes and a bomb on board", not to mention the literal thousands of people watching as commercial jets fly into the twin towers....literally 0% of the evidence demonstrates it was a remote controlled military aircraft that hit the towers. Maybe you should try to grow up you fucking conspiracy theorist.
Thank goodness the aircraft didn't hit a populated area...
High Crimes it wouldn’t have; that is what the military would be for. Would have shot it down in a remote area.
I was away from my home airport by that time, so didn't hear all the "av-talk" but it was such a sad event, if there is any consolation to their loved ones, it can be that they were unconscious long before they crashed. There is a lot of speculation about what COULD have happened to prevent that, but we'll never know, since the Lear aircraft did not have a CVR (cockpit voice recorder). Today, 20 years later, most biz jets have safety instruments that would not allow that to happen.
As a kid, Payne Stewart was my golfing hero. He was such a cool and badass guy that he didn't seem to fit the mold of the typical golfer. I started playing golf around 6 or 7 so I was lucky enough to see him play. Hard to believe that stuff like this could happen, especially to someone who spends the extra money on taking the safer, more reliable private jet over commercial jets
Solution? Pilots should ALWAYS wear Oxygen above 10,000 ft. (or just always, period)... At the very least, one of them should be on O2 at ALL times... Preflight should include maintenance records ie: Pressure problems the AC was having thus a good alert item for the crew... When lives depend on pilotes then pilots should be fully trained and properly prepared to the MAX, not the min...
Pilots are prepared for the max trust me. Always wearing oxygen would be unrealistic. That is precisely why aircrafts are pressurised.
@@rvsmairspace6742 Tell that to the dead people on that plane. In the USMC pilots are put in a vaccume chamber and take their masks off to experience hypoxia and when it hits you only have a split second to get your mask on, a split second and you better be at the ready, mask hanging close at hand with the air flowing or you are done for it. In real life there are no trainers standing by you to help if needed and you are ready and all of your gear is working and ready, nothing to even turn on. Rapid decompreasorization can happen at any time, do you really want the pilot/s looking for their masks and switches etc or flying the plane with a clear head? F-4 pilots always have their O2 on so at least the pilot or co-pilot should at ALL TIMES have 02 on (at least one of them at all times). EVERYONE's lives depends on it. Even the seconds it could take them to mask up could mean everyone's death when seconds count. You really want them holding the wheel (buttons etc) with both hands not looking for their mask.
@Joe Pastrami I agree Joe! Very well said indeed.
Hydraulic pumps on a/c are redundant......And OBTW, the Sioux City situation was caused by hydraulic leakage, not a pump fail.
The announcement that everone died with the golfer jumping up in celebration was awkward as hell.
The golfer jumping up and down was Payne Stewart. He died in the plane crash.
@@vettedude1950 Oh Jesus. That makes it a whole hell of a lot less awkward! Lol
They actually took off from Orlando Executive Airport and not OIA. Great recreation anyway. Cheers, Dan
How awful...and very sad...and preventable...wow..RIP
I’m about to be a flight attendant for a major carrier. Why do I keep watching these videos?....
volooooo Congrats. Have fun. Its a learning process.
Keep watching them because you owe it to yourself to see what can happen so you will be better equipped to handle emergency situations that may arise.
Be not alarmed. Doing a rapid depressurization is rather fun. If you are at a high altitude such at 50K feet, the sensations are 1)Very rapid lowering of cabin temperature, 2)This will cause instant and very thick fog which means you'll need to feel for your O2 mask. The temperature will take an immediate and large drop (well below freezing) because of air expansion. However, you do have ample time to react (about 2 minutes) to locate and put on your O2 mask.
volooooo things like this are very rare. you’ll be alright! i dislike planes quite a lot but i find these videos interesting. good luck on the new job! 🥰
So lets say you are able to get your mask on,what about the dropping temp. Wouldnt that still be life threatening situation ? And at what point would the temp.turn back to survival status? Thank you !!!!
I think the company should have been held liable. If the plane had cabin pressure issues. The plane obviously had cabin pressure issues in the past, and if the company did not have the paperwork to back up the repairs its negligence. The company is not able to prove the cabin pressure issues
were fixed and tested.
You can do avianca flight 11?
Or the Chapecoense last flight?
I used to work for the largest operator of learjets in the world. Emergency descent for pressurization loss is a standard training exercise for all Lear23/24/25/35/29/55, etc, crews. Faulty maintenance was the most probable cause of this tragedy.
Aircraft destroyed? oh i thought it just had a minor bump
He does a conclusion on the aircraft involved on every video. You should've gathered this by now.
Your comment was not worth even typing.
no they put new wings on her and i got a sweet deal on the Gal.....omg sorrrry
This was Payne Stewart’s plane.
yea but he was not flying it usually people contract operators in this case sunjet aviation to fly their aircraft.
Celebrities and businessmen are often forbidden by insurance carriers from flying their own airplanes. Strange but true.
This Lear had a pilot and copilot.
How could it be Payne Stewart's plane and owned by Sun Aviation ?
Cool story bro
Rip Payne Stewart and all of the other victims 🙏
He’s forever 6 under
The Lear 35 takes off with the engine bleed/pressurization switch off because it does not have forced air over the bleed air heat exchangers while on the ground. The heat exchangers get their cooling air from the movement of the aircraft in flight. After takeoff the callouts are: Positive rate, Gear up, Yaw Damper on, Bleed on. The bleed air switch is by the co-pilots left knee. The facts presented are consistent with a Lear 35 climbing with its bleed air switch off.