Payne Stewart: What REALLY Happened?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 янв 2025

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  • @golfplus_
    @golfplus_  Год назад +5

    🔴 Charlie Woods DOMINATING Golf Tournaments ▶ ruclips.net/video/-6KP6dN-KpA/видео.html

    • @c.e.b.underpar1746
      @c.e.b.underpar1746 Год назад +2

      I CAN'T WAIT FOR Charlie and John Daly's kid to be on tour together!! Bring back some personality to the PGA!!!

    • @Play2Win1958
      @Play2Win1958 Год назад +1

      Charlie Woods and Little John Daly Jr are the future of the PGA !

  • @COLETHORN10
    @COLETHORN10 Год назад +14

    Payne"s last competive golf act was in the 1999 Ryder Cup at The Country Club. He conceded Colin Montgomery"s long putt for par at #18 to square the match as Payne knew the crowd was on Colin for the entire round and made amends for the spectators actions. Monty clapped as Payne picked up Monty"s ball and gave it to him. True class.

    • @multitrackers9599
      @multitrackers9599 6 месяцев назад +1

      well said. Payne was a decent human being. A gentleman.

  • @oliver69cork46
    @oliver69cork46 Год назад +9

    A wonderful man,sportsmanship, talent,beautiful swing plus great principles-a style apart and legend-enough said.

  • @04stiger
    @04stiger Год назад +29

    A true gentleman of the sport, gone way too soon. RIP Payne.

  • @Play2Win1958
    @Play2Win1958 Год назад +5

    Met Payne at the Shell Houston Open back in 1996 got his autograph that was a special day !

  • @kirtiswilkerson2204
    @kirtiswilkerson2204 9 месяцев назад +4

    A great man, a great legend, a great husband, and a great father. His legend will continue.

  • @John-vw3lr
    @John-vw3lr Год назад +6

    I remember my friend speaking with him at the Open at Troon in 1989 my friend informed him that he had placed a bet on him to win and Payne reply in that fabulous American accent “ Thank You Sir “ RIP Payne.

  • @daynasafranek7807
    @daynasafranek7807 6 месяцев назад +4

    He sounds like he was a really nice man and I can’t imagine what their families and loved ones went through, before the plane crashed. I remember when the crash happened and how awful it was. Rest in peace ❤

  • @maneco64
    @maneco64 Год назад +7

    At 01:47 you have a picture of Stuart Appleby who is an Australian golf professional and not Payne Stewart.

  • @michaelk8710
    @michaelk8710 Год назад +6

    I loved Payne Stewart, just a class act through and through. I worked at a prestigious Golf Club in Maryland back then that had the names of famous golfers for the member's locker stalls, Payne was one of them. After learning of his passing, I made and framed a montage of photos around the his most iconic one as the centerpiece, the fist pump and leg kick out after that putt at the '99 Open (watched on TV). I brought it in the next day and placed it by Payne's locker. As far as I knew working there for another year, no club member had ever used the locker after that, and my photo montage was never removed. I can only hope it's still there today, respect. I still miss watching him play, RIP Payne...

  • @bobh6634
    @bobh6634 Год назад +12

    Showing my age. During his final year on the tour, at Augusta, I followed him closely. In those days during practice rounds you could get close enough to the players to hear them. On the 4th, the par 3, two lovely girls in their early 20's called him over to the ropes. I can still remember the gold plates on the heels and toes of his shoes. One girl whispered something in his ear. Loudly he said "thank you so much for the offer. I have the most beautiful wife and family a man could ever wish for. There is no way I would ever do something to jeopardize losing them". Can't find those words coming out of the mouths of athletes today. His famed, framed pictures from his memorial service with the footprints in the dew is one of our most prized possessions. As a PGA Life Member, I am blessed to have played, promoted, and taught the same game as Payne. RIP Legend, God bless.

  • @bobskaftfeld5611
    @bobskaftfeld5611 6 месяцев назад +3

    He was awesome!

  • @thomasguerriero8189
    @thomasguerriero8189 Год назад +6

    My favorite and miss him

  • @dmack1827
    @dmack1827 Год назад +17

    His accident has always been referred to in aviation training for pilots. Especially at Learjet training facilities. Aviation was made safer by the tragedy.

  • @Jim_Harwood
    @Jim_Harwood Год назад +7

    One of the pics showing Payne in knickers is actually Stuart Appleby--the red and blue knicker pic is Stuart Appleby not Payne Stewart.

  • @ourlifeinwyoming4654
    @ourlifeinwyoming4654 Год назад +3

    Excellent video. It’s much more than just the incident with the airplane. Watch it - you’ll be glad you did.

  • @andrewosborne6390
    @andrewosborne6390 Год назад +2

    The still used of the golfer in red plus fours is not Payne Stewart, it's the Aussie Stuart Appleby

  • @rsd3637
    @rsd3637 Год назад +2

    why has Google/ UTube eliminated the like icon. this video surely deserves it

  • @cwmapp
    @cwmapp Год назад +2

    At 9:22 in your video there is a still photo. I am pretty sure that this golfer is actually Stuart Appleby (from Victoria, Australia). They look similar. If I am wrong, I stand corrected 🙂

    • @kenweeks6282
      @kenweeks6282 Год назад +1

      That is Stuart, I could tell right away it wasn’t Payne.

  • @smitty9733
    @smitty9733 Год назад +1

    The most beautiful golf swing period.

  • @bield7
    @bield7 Год назад +1

    Classic golf swing

  • @DanMarshburn-il2sd
    @DanMarshburn-il2sd Год назад +2

    I do miss the 90’s.

  • @jonnybegood1544
    @jonnybegood1544 Год назад +4

    Greatly missed( RIP

  • @peril1954
    @peril1954 Год назад +2

    Hey Golf Plus. This video needs an edit. There are several still shots in this film that show Stuart Appleby, not Payne Stewart.

  • @HolyGrailOfGolf
    @HolyGrailOfGolf Год назад +10

    Why are they using a picture of Stewart Appleby?

    • @gregbond7685
      @gregbond7685 Год назад

      I noticed that too.

    • @HolyGrailOfGolf
      @HolyGrailOfGolf Год назад +3

      @@gregbond7685 I guess the AI that wrote and put this video together can't tell the difference.

    • @markcarboon7008
      @markcarboon7008 Год назад +1

      And they say AI is smarter than us. Humbug!

  • @andrewjames5054
    @andrewjames5054 Год назад +1

    Great for the game..tradigdy really sounded like a great guy

  • @jameshoran8
    @jameshoran8 Год назад +7

    Payne's last competition was the 1999 Ryder Cup at The Country Club. The U.S. has already won when Payne picked up Colin Montgomery's long putt for par at 18, signifying a tie in the match. Payne knew the crowd was getting on Monty big time and this was his gesture of sportsmanship. Monty clapped as Payne approached him with Colin's ball.

    • @JohnHolt-qq4cb
      @JohnHolt-qq4cb Год назад

      Never mind this trivia, tell the truth about "Tiger's trip to the local airport where he adjusted or turned off the oxygen to Payne's airplane. NO one is above the law.
      John J H. !!!!!.

    • @JohnHolt-qq4cb
      @JohnHolt-qq4cb Год назад

      No one is above the law.
      Tell the truth about "Tiger's"
      actions. - Turning off the oxygen!!!!
      John Holt

  • @rickstclair2217
    @rickstclair2217 Год назад +2

    attended the 99 US OPEN at Pinehurst. on monday that week at a practice round, my buddy and i walked over to a fairway, saw a guy walking up to his ball near us, did not recognize the player at first, no knickers, no tam, just regular slacks, golf shirt. watched him win that Open, has always stuck with me.

  • @TheAmpharosFreak
    @TheAmpharosFreak Год назад +1

    Payne designed my home course and there’s a statue of him next to the 18th green. Total legend.
    Edit: 8:38 there it is! Lol that’s my home course, let’s gooo!!!

  • @SteveMusicMan1999
    @SteveMusicMan1999 Год назад +3

    He probably had the most perfect swing of all time!

    • @stevehamman4465
      @stevehamman4465 Год назад +1

      Freddie Couples has entered the chat ! ! 😅

    • @SteveMusicMan1999
      @SteveMusicMan1999 Год назад

      @@stevehamman4465 So do you not allow people an opinion my friend? I've studied the golf swing for 50 years now and have played off plus 2 so I do have a bit of knowledge.

    • @ohyes5
      @ohyes5 Год назад

      You can see the elegance in Moe Normans swing

    • @stevehamman4465
      @stevehamman4465 Год назад +2

      @@SteveMusicMan1999 actually nippy, I modeled my swing off of Paynes!! I carried a 2 handicap (18) myself. So I wasn't bashing your opinion, just saying that other golfers had very smooth swings. Moe Norman, was another. I've watched a few videos on his flight. It was a sad time for me. Good day sir!

    • @davidfoster2006
      @davidfoster2006 6 месяцев назад

      Sam Snead the smoothies for me.

  • @Tryp-j9d
    @Tryp-j9d 3 месяца назад

    He played through. All the way to South Dakota!

  • @kenweeks6282
    @kenweeks6282 Год назад

    The picture of the guy with the red plaid knickers and navy blue shirt/hat in the video used a few times is Stuart Appleby and not Payne..

  • @WullieMarr
    @WullieMarr Год назад +6

    Its a bunnet (flat cap to the non Scots), not a Tam o'Shanter.

  • @franklinniesterjr3812
    @franklinniesterjr3812 Год назад +1

    When I started playing golf in 1986, I watched golf, read books, bought VHS tapes, everything.
    I wanted to drive it like Greg Norman, have the smooth iron swing of Fred Couples, and I wanted to be able to putt like Jack.
    But the classiest guy, the dude in your group who always pushed for you to have fun and cherish little moments,..that was Payne Stewart.
    A CLASS ACT that has yet to be surpassed. No ten golfers today combined, can muster the class and humility that Payne had.
    RIP MR STEWART.

  • @davieejeffreys8000
    @davieejeffreys8000 Год назад

    Great Vid , and didnt mention his wife is an Australian ! I'd love to see on vid on Ian Baker Finch , although nowhere near as famous ( although should have won 2 ) , the story is in the childhood / demise / then onto be the most respected of commentators .

  • @jasonharris5432
    @jasonharris5432 6 месяцев назад

    Why is the golfer in the still pictures all the way through t
    he video Robert Allenby??????

  • @davidparker781
    @davidparker781 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the con.

  • @mikesalt8248
    @mikesalt8248 6 месяцев назад

    Well in 1978 whilst taking care of Jack Nicklaus's aircraft in Scotland on our air base one of my guys came to me in my office and said ther is something I think You should come and see . We hopped into a land rover and went to runway 27 to discover that his aircraft N1JN had an issue the day before, Saturday he went to Germany to do an exhibition he flew into Prestwick to drop his son Jackie off later that day when they returned his pilot Ralph Knight gave me the keys to the plane and off they went to St. Andrews . So now we arrive at the plane to see the emergency escape hatch in the upper fuselage wasn't sitting right so I called up Ralph and got himto come over . Between us we removed it and got another seal flown in from the states pronto ! The point of all this if we hadn't spotted this Jack and his wife and two Kids could have gone the way of Payne Stewart. To this day I don't know if the Nicklauses knew we possibly saved their lives.

  • @simoncampbell3144
    @simoncampbell3144 Год назад +1

    My favourite golfer of all time

    • @slowery43
      @slowery43 Год назад

      and we should care why? You think people came here to find out about who your fav golfer is huh? You think this is about you?

  • @kitswithkaren5003
    @kitswithkaren5003 Год назад

    RIP PS💐

  • @johnparker8588
    @johnparker8588 Год назад

    He was from Missouri!! It’s expected.

  • @spizzenergi2292
    @spizzenergi2292 Год назад +1

    The only American we really liked in Scotland

  • @richardlecker213
    @richardlecker213 Год назад +3

    I worked at the Disney tournament, Payne’s last one. He wasn’t playing well and told one of our guys that if he missed the cut it was OK because his son had a soccer game tomorrow and he would like to see him play. Payne missed the cut. I would like to think God wanted him to see his son’s game before he died.
    Also, Disney has a locker with Payne’s clothes, etc. as a memorial to him.

  • @tradehead
    @tradehead Год назад

    Love the way he dressed!

  • @gdbd6181
    @gdbd6181 Год назад +3

    A great golfer but also a real gentleman

  • @AnthonyToy
    @AnthonyToy Год назад

    You have Stuart Appleby on the picture not Payne.

  • @Mattnorman5
    @Mattnorman5 Год назад

    Love the vid but why use a pic of Stuart Appleby dressed as Payne???

  • @Blt-rr2lm
    @Blt-rr2lm Год назад +3

    So, what REALLY happened is what was originally reported. Thanks.

  • @stacyrix1488
    @stacyrix1488 Год назад +2

    This page like so many others are shameless. They put together a story with some misinformation just to make money. Social media should stop this. This story was put together horribly

    • @kenweeks6282
      @kenweeks6282 Год назад +1

      And used a photo of Stuart Appleby a few times in here.

  • @davekearney1944
    @davekearney1944 Год назад

    Some of the photos of Payne are actually Stuart Appleby. .

  • @RobertChristadore01
    @RobertChristadore01 6 месяцев назад

    The stills in this film aren't Payne. They are Stuart Appleby.

  • @dsburdette
    @dsburdette Год назад

    Uh, I believe your photo at 19s is Stuart Appleby, not Payne Stewart. Derp.

  • @thevinnyman
    @thevinnyman Год назад

    Why do you keep showing the image of Australian golfer Stuart Appleby to represent Payne's image????

  • @ADMCWATP
    @ADMCWATP 6 месяцев назад

    Never forgot his Scottish routes

  • @dronespace
    @dronespace Год назад

    Beautiful swing

  • @Jim_Harwood
    @Jim_Harwood Год назад +2

    You have Stuart Appleby . Poor work. Some clown mixed up the names and grabbed a pic of Stuart Applebee rather than Payne Stewart. Poor work

  • @bwacbike9458
    @bwacbike9458 Год назад

    Uh, Stuart Appleby in Payne’s gear ain’t Payne. Please edit.

  • @danjanyja
    @danjanyja 6 месяцев назад

    It's NOT a tam-o-shanter my friend, Google it! Payne wore a sport cap like Ben Hogan .

  • @larrysorenson4789
    @larrysorenson4789 Год назад +62

    No mystery here. Oxygen failed at altitude. Everyone unconscious. Autopilot flew till no fuel. Plane crashed. No reason to read article.

    • @stevez6499
      @stevez6499 Год назад +11

      It’s not that simple. Yes the Autopilot flew on it’s last assigned heading and the plane did run out of fuel and then crashed. But too many things were missed by the crew that should not have been for the lack of oxygen. The engine bleed valve that provides oxygen was found in the off position post crash. As was the crew’s oxygen mask valve that was shut off and not open during the external preflight as it should have been. I was told that a previous crew that flew Payne purposely shut off the bleed air valve so ice that formed quickly on the cabin interior windows could be scraped off and used for drinks. And the pilots had their oxygen masks on thinking they were getting oxygen. But they were not and everyone flew asleep and then died. Very sad but very logical to an unlikely scenario.

    • @brianbrooking496
      @brianbrooking496 Год назад +1

      Exactly

    • @recoilrob324
      @recoilrob324 Год назад +7

      @@stevez6499 The thing about scraping off ice for drinks I don't buy...sorry. Who was the person that told you that? To get ice on the windows would mean that everyone would be unconscious and not likely to be making drinks
      .That aircraft had not pressurized properly the day before and the bleed valve HAD been changed on the engine...but it wasn't test flown afterwards. So the Stewart flight was the first with the new valve and after take-off the pilots set the autopilot and during the climb the aircraft again didn't pressurize properly. Stewart had a reputation as a 'nice guy' but they said he was a stern business man and neither pilot wanted to be the one to have to go back and tell him that they were going to have to miss the appointments they had planned...while arguing who would do it you don't have very long at the excellent climb rate of the Lear before you will pass out...which is what happened according to what I was told. Seems that there are many versions of what happened...eh?
      I'm an A&P and worked with a fellow who got the call at Lear from the authorities asking how far it could fly on the fuel load it took off with...and the estimation was within a few miles of dead on accurate. It did over-fly several cities but the prediction was that it was going to go down in cow pastures so the escorting F-16's didn't take action and just followed it. The autopilot was set to climb and not for a particular altitude so it was flying along still trying to climb but was as high as it could go which varied around the 40,000 ft mark until it ran out of fuel and spiraled in. Everyone was frozen and identifying the broken chunks was a nightmare when they were dug out of the hole. Very sad.

    • @stevez6499
      @stevez6499 Год назад +5

      @@recoilrob324 I was told it from a charter pilot that had done the exact thing on a previous flight for him. In the high humidity in Florida I think the frosting of the windows could happen. I don’t have any time in a Lear but thousands of hours in Gulfstreams.
      Being an A&P you certainly know there are visual and physical warnings that would indicate the bleed air valve was not open. If you missed the CAS message your ears would certainly tell you the cabin wasn’t pressurizing. And then climbing through a 13,000 foot or so cabin altitude, another warning would indicate cabin altitude high. And the bleed air valve was determined to be in the “off” position by the NTSB. The force of the impact did not change that from on to off. It was purposely turned off is the only logical explanation. And the crew thought they were getting oxygen in their quick donning masks. But no they weren’t.
      Yes the ice drink story seems far fetched but everything about it fits this accident perfectly. And we all know some charter pilots were no paid well back then and if Payne told them he’d throw them $2-300 to do that? I think it would happen as this other pilot admitted to doing earlier.
      Also I’ve been to an altitude chamber and at 25,000’ I was doing ok for more than 5 minutes.
      It’s very sad but hard to explain the accident with two pilots missing all the lack of pressurization clues. That just doesn’t work.

    • @recoilrob324
      @recoilrob324 Год назад

      @@stevez6499 Thanks for the info! It's hard to explain without data recorder exactly what happened...seems there are lots of people offering 'informed' opinions that don't exactly jive with one another so what I was told might not be right.
      An aircraft landing in Miami in July will often be iced up having come down from -70F so maybe that's where the 'iced up window' story came from?
      I did get to participate in an NTSB investigation of a fatal Malibu crash years ago and how it was conducted didn't fill me with confidence that a jet that augured in upwards of 600 mph would leave controls in position so they could positively be identified pre-crash.
      The story about the aircraft not pressurizing properly the day before didn't detail what and how...just that the valve had been replaced...perhaps it began normal operation then failed? Meaning a control function not the valve as they're a pretty simple device and not likely to suddenly fail.
      That might also explain the pilots not getting oxygen from their masks if the control unit was the same....sorry I've never worked on a Lear...or any cockpit as I spent my time at P&W working on engines.
      Guess we'll never know the exact details of the crash other than for sure it wasn't pressurized and everyone died. Hopefully somewhere the truth IS known but maybe for insurance reasons is being kept on the down-low but quietly fixed. I'm positive this has happened in the past and I've absolutely no confidence in the FAA and other authorities to actually pinpoint a cause without details from data recorders to guide them. Fly safe my brother.

  • @pgaloom
    @pgaloom Год назад +1

    Knickers are the same as plus-fours

  • @TonysMusic1974
    @TonysMusic1974 Год назад

    So what part here is "untold?"

  • @stephendavies925
    @stephendavies925 Год назад +1

    Could you take a look at Nick Faldo he was the most arrogant golfer ever but a great player and brought some good memories to us Brits golf fans

  • @HolyGrailOfGolf
    @HolyGrailOfGolf Год назад +2

    I want to know how he was able to wear a new pair of leather soled golf shoes every week! Was someone else breaking them in for him?

    • @stevehamman4465
      @stevehamman4465 Год назад +1

      Depending on your wallet size,, expensive shoes dont need to be broken in! There are some custom shoe makers out there. Just saying!

    • @HolyGrailOfGolf
      @HolyGrailOfGolf Год назад

      @@stevehamman4465 Oh, you're right. There was an ultra premium custom golf shoe maker here in So Cal that I'm pretty sure made Payne's shoes for him. I know when I buy a pair of leather soled shoes it takes quite a while to break them in.

  • @michaelstusiak5902
    @michaelstusiak5902 Год назад +1

    Mina SD. M "eye" na

  • @terry-zi7eh
    @terry-zi7eh Год назад

    Vince Gill wrote “Hey God” about his good friend Payne Stewart soon after the tragedy.

    • @jordan-xe2yb
      @jordan-xe2yb Год назад

      That’s bad and you know that it is.

  • @daleravic
    @daleravic Год назад

    Didn't dry ice have something to do with it?

  • @lloydsingline340
    @lloydsingline340 6 месяцев назад

    Tragic.Payne was different.

  • @robinwells6593
    @robinwells6593 6 месяцев назад

    He didn’t wear a tam o Shanter, it’s a flat cap.

  • @kevinbalfour1728
    @kevinbalfour1728 Год назад +1

    Me bet is Payne Stewart's famous last words were, "I should've used my Driver!"

  • @Jimsranch
    @Jimsranch Год назад

    click bait - Learjet not Barron

  • @BP-kx2ig
    @BP-kx2ig 6 месяцев назад

    Knickers?

  • @thomasjones7918
    @thomasjones7918 Год назад

    What Really Happened? Nothing that everyone already knows.

  • @hhazelhoff1363
    @hhazelhoff1363 6 месяцев назад

    Nothing new to report, the NTSB report spells it out very clearly. The plane lost oxygen. Let’s keep it real

  • @ryanu3708
    @ryanu3708 Год назад +1

    Stuart Appleby photo lol. If you're going to go to all the trouble to upload an AI narrated photo/video compilation at least don't make yourself look a total fool.

  • @ronmullard5718
    @ronmullard5718 Год назад

    a sad loss ...

  • @caskraker
    @caskraker 6 месяцев назад

    Pretty lousy footage. You missed his nickname AVIS. Because of his numerous 2nd place finishes. And the greatest headline of all time when he finally won: AVIS wins Hertz. 😂

  • @jonlanier_
    @jonlanier_ Год назад +2

    If he would have lived, Tiger would not have as many majors.

  • @Forever_Laura
    @Forever_Laura Год назад

    So What REALLY Happened? This AI generated video gives us squadoosh

  • @user-hq5wq8tm6b
    @user-hq5wq8tm6b Год назад

    Nice annoying clicking sound during the video. Ruined the whole thing.

  • @PDadz64
    @PDadz64 Год назад

    Watching from the UK 🇬🇧 ….. so he came from Springfield , I never knew that , wonder if he was buddies with Homer Simpson 🤔

  • @scotttyson7970
    @scotttyson7970 Год назад

    Didn't they have O2 emergency mask .damm

  • @samg2620
    @samg2620 Год назад

    Click bait. The truth has been known from day one.

  • @uradioshow
    @uradioshow Год назад

    Thanks for the socks and the underwear

  • @Kahuna54
    @Kahuna54 Год назад

    This was more about the success in life over his tragic death.

  • @eyeswideopen6492
    @eyeswideopen6492 5 месяцев назад

    sacrificed

  • @billkramer2994
    @billkramer2994 Год назад

    Nothing here but fluff to get ad $! Pitiful!!

  • @thetowndrunk988
    @thetowndrunk988 Год назад

    What a bunch of clickbait. Everybody knows “what really happened”. We’ve all known for over 20 years. How about titling this “Payne Stewart- Golfing Legend”? At least be respectable, instead of acting like you have some sort of secret than no one knows…..

  • @ronrehschuh5663
    @ronrehschuh5663 Год назад

    thats not Payne Stewart. come on get it straight will ya????????

  • @Carlos-tn2hf
    @Carlos-tn2hf Год назад

    You are a vampire

  • @3putt548
    @3putt548 Год назад +1

    Never cared for the showboater!

    • @oliver69cork46
      @oliver69cork46 Год назад +3

      Such a comment? Payne stewart was unique and added much needed style to a fairly stale dress code in golf plus his talent,wonderful sportsmanship and humanity-what are you on? Remember what he did with mountgomery in the ryder cup?

  • @c.e.b.underpar1746
    @c.e.b.underpar1746 Год назад +3

    Next video...untold truth behind completely bogus click bait, IT WAS A LEAR JET AND IT CRASHED INTO THE GROUND WITH NO RECOGNIZABLE PLANE PARTS!!!!

  • @Shasta69
    @Shasta69 Год назад

    Lots of inaccuracies in this poorly researched video. In fact, too many to document.