The way I see it, toxic masculinity often goes hand in hand with misogyny and gender norms, feeling like specific human things such as emotions, hobbies, and careers are "masculine" or "feminine" is toxic in general.
They were doing so well on the female orgasm part but then they got to discussing gender roles and stereotypes as natural and I had to click out. In 2022 how they can there be a struggle over what words mean - in English, that existed independently of them and their best guesses. I guess one takeaway from this is that we always need to start this discussion on what are the benefits to men from understanding any form of intersectional oppression and go from there 💕
I absolutely enjoyed the conversation. Side note: I don't care how you feel about it. No man should be wearing pearls. I said what I said. Good Day! 😂 #TanksRydas #GaggleGang ❤️
The reason some men feel obligated to like stuff they really don't gaf about, or do certain stuff is because of toxic masculinity. It's not toxic because a man likes to work on cars, it's toxic when you say or do things to try to make a man who doesn't work on cars feel like he's soft or not manly enough.
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The masculine and feminine energies are on a spectrum. When we say masculine or feminine, what we're really saying is "more inclined to respond in this way." they could have been called anything and has different terms in different cultures. Masculinity has nothing to do with gender or sex! Women, men, and non binary friends are all capable of demonstrating masculine (and feminine) energy in an unbalanced and/or forceful way (toxic). That imbalance creates an oppression or rejection of the other energy. (Commonly in the face of religious or colonizing ideaolgies feminine energy/responses are oppressed, subject to undue criticism, and punished.) Awareness of toxic masculinity has risen is because it is so harmful. It does us all such injustice if we're assigning things or judging things to just one gender or sex. It puts people on the defense and ignores other instances of harmful behavior. Really glad this subject is coming up because it gives us the opportunity to take our power back.
I don't think Greg's response was wrong, it was just a missed teachable moment. I grew up under "do as I say," which only taught me to do what I was told without understanding why or questioning it.
One thing that goes unmentioned in discussions about #toxicmasculinity is how often WOMEN perpetuate or support incorrect ideals of what a "real man" is. #letustellit Marcus at 32:48 "And I'd add more to it before I'd take it back!" 😂😂 Greg's genuine "I need a minute to laugh" at 33:22 😂😂 @Tanksley TV @Building With Goose #tanksleytv #buildingwithgoose #dadlife #realmenspeak #manshyt #underreppedmerch #blackhusbandschat #blackfathers
That's a great example of the purpose of a father in his daughter's life. Women will handle her differently. It's your job as her father to teach her to manage her emotions.
It wasn’t toxic, it did lack empathy to bring down her own emotions. She’s too young to be able to fully articulate her why and that’s where as a parent a little empathy helps.
I have sons in their 30s and I appreciate all you guys discuss. My generation pretend that we're so open, we're not nor were we taught to be. I had to apologize to my children for ingorant and foolish things I said and did to them. Thinking that it was true and right to do. Gooz ,made me holla, with that tell him then give him head statement! 😳🤣. Learning something new can come at any age and from any generation. ❤️
Goose’ response to his daughter regarding the life jacket wasn’t toxic. It was a fatherly response. Girls need both. Soft and fatherly responses. We appreciate it in the end.
The things I consider toxic are the action and justification of cheating and abuse (in all forms) from both genders. Neither is conducive for a healthy society.
thanks for this conversation! i teach emotional literacy and relational wellness. there is *no reason* for a lack of clarity or misinformation around ANY term or definition unless you confer or seek it from unqualified ppl. within the context of this conversation, *toxic masculinity* was still not defined correctly- thus missed opportunities for deep dives or a larger discourse didn’t happen. there’s too much info out here to be misinformed. i offer you start with acquiring an accurate definition from a reputable source and create discourse around that definition-not ppl’s anecdotal opinions. that’s where the confusion comes in! the appropriate definition will bring light, clarity and create opportunities for education, learning & growth. much love 🖤
Toxic masculinity actually holds the man back from growth acting in ways they THINK men SHOULD be. We all need space and grace to to grow and evolve as we experience this life 💜💫
Toxic masculinity was originally a term to describe men not dealing with personal issues, bottling them up inside, "just harden up", "boys don't cry" & men not going to therapy etc. It had nothing to do with masculinity itself being toxic per se. The term was high jacked to mean something else, what you guys are describing.
I don't have conversations with anyone in real life about masculinity (and am almost never around men outside of my household), so the only place that I see or hear reference to "toxic masculinity" is on the internet. I do think that it is sometimes misused to describe negative behaviors or traits that *anyone* could have simply because the person in question happens to be male. On the other hand, some women are also guilty of upholding the societal expectations for men that could be considered "toxic masculinity" as well.
I don't think the life jacket situation was toxic. I do respectfully think it was just a moment of bad parenting. Parents usually do their kids a disservice when they make demands of them but don't take the time to use it as a teaching moment, which is what the lady did, helping her understand why the life jacket is important... I said it before and I'll say it again, this podcast is already in my top 5 of everything I listen to (I listen to a lot of different podcasts and this might be number 1)... Looking forward to the continued growth of this podcast
Not sure I ever heard toxic masculinity described as liking “traditionally male” things (cars, etc). I think in that context people are saying men shouldn’t feel obligated to like the things society says men should like, that men should feel free to enjoy “traditionally female/women” interests as well.
Listen y’all are raising your children very well. F toxic masculinity people misconstrued being raised with by a loving father and not having a father in the home. A lot of women who view this as toxic were raised by single mothers and have nothing to compare a loving father to. Period
This was a Wow transparency podcast! Speaking up for a Woman, sexual needs wise, is necessary but know that a man that doesn't care what you are asking for, is not worth sharing yourself with. It's a mutual exchange in a very intimate situation. So glad there are men who can say what we All hear and need to know. Thanks LUTI, Goosby and Tank!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️
Lol, y'all are hilarious --"don't act like yo man is me" .....ego just shattered "he'll be ok tho, eventually, maybe...hopefully" so basically make him feel good, then slide in ways he can be better. Lol, gone pour up a good drank & talk about it Goooooolzby 🥃 another great topic & discussion!
I'm a day late and a dollar short, but sometimes we have to remind our little people why we are having them do things. Your friend probably saw your daughter upset (as most children get when they can't have their way) and thought to make her feel better about having to wear her vest. It could have been a learning moment for Greg to ask the friend why she pulled your baby aside. I don't the interaction was toxic, but it could have been handled better. The hobbies people choose are not toxic. It can be "toxic" when people think a person isn't a woman or man because they don't do certain things.
I think it would be great for you all to discuss the term and ideas around being a Simp. This terminology is new to me but a lot of times when I see it thrown around on social platforms it’s by a man that does not seem to respect women and are trying to put down men that do respect women.
My *personal opinion*… a lot of women in my life who scream at men and anything masculine don’t have sons, secure relationships with their fathers, or suffered greatly at the hands of a man. And vice versa. Every man that is embittered by femininity was taught that by an insecure man or was hurt by a woman. All these labels and titles are damn near arbitrary at this point, based on my observations. I could be wrong!
This world has become extremely sensitive...everything is practically a touchy subject...it's crazy! I haven't heard this term prior to this episode so you guys taught me something.
I think that for those traits that were given as examples of bad masculinity it's important to look at why a person demonstrates those traits. Is a man being aggressive, threatening violence, etc. because they believe that doing those things represent manhood to the exclusion of doing it any other way? Even if the aggression and violence aren't true to who they are or if it's affecting their lives and relationships? When you lump people into the "have tos" and "shoulds" anything could be toxic.
I really enjoyed this conversation and really discussing how the term toxic masculinity is misused. I think that we are getting to make these comments into toxiityc when it is not but just strong opinions.
Haven’t listened to it yet but know comments help 🙂All love y’all. Side note: Mapquest was amazing to me as a 8/9 year old. I still used it up until my first year of college in ‘08/09 lol.
I love this podcast and listening to their truths. We all have some unlearning to do and I appreciate listening to people be honest about their journeys and be funny af along the way hahaha.
Thanks for helping us gerrit and understand what toxic masculinity is... On the swimming issue, no one was wrong. What made a difference is that there was explanation and an understanding of why wearing the protective gear was important. It's like a boss who tells you to do a report coz he says so. Then another boss who makes you understand that when you do your report in good time, it enables management get a better understanding where the company is at and if there are issues that need escalating and be handled. Your response and call to action is definitely going to be different
I think an interesting discussion would be where's the line between chivalry and toxic masculinity because I think that line varies from woman to woman.
In reference to a woman faking an orgasm: in my opinion, if the sex partner can't tell that she is faking (by the actual body response, not her vocalizations), either they haven't made a woman orgasm often enough (or ever) to tell or they simply don't care.
@goolzby when dealing with ur girls just take the time to explain why. The life vest situation u could have explained to her why she had to wear it or given her the option to get out of the pool and take it off.
In the most simplest terms toxic masculinity is expectations men have that are harmful to themselves, women and society as a whole. They reason why Goose's interaction with his daughter could be considered toxic is because he told her to do something without giving her any explanation of why and without inquiring or letting her fully express her feelings, so what you've conveyed in that moment was a man doesn't have to care or inquire about her feelings, just do as you're told. With that being said, a lot of women like and want varying degrees of toxicity, as much as we (women) preach gender equality we don't truly want to be responsible and accountable for the same things as men, To the women who say that's not true, I ask you if an intruder comes in to your home with you and husband/ male partner present are you going jump up to go confront the intruder.
That’s usually the example used.. and in reality… yes.. if you look at situations of physical danger.. you will find that women jump in to help their men all the time. Most don’t just go hide behind him. Two is better than one. That’s just a numbers game.
@@canon60458 unless I'm a trained shooter my husband would absolutely expect me to go hide, all of the men in my family as well as my male friends would expect the women to go hide.
@@HotCocoBangbang I’m not talking expectations.. I’m talking reality.. and the reality is that people will launched into action during high stress situations. It will either be flight, fight, or flee.. and most people don’t know what they will actually do… but what we have seen is time and again when a partner is going to launch k to action and help their spouse protect.. that’s the reality. Because if he gets over powered, then what???
@@canon60458 launching in to action doesn't mean confront the intruder with him. If we both to approach the intruder and we're both shot and killed, now my child is an orphan, then what. When I said I'd go hide, I don't mean that literally I meant I would not be confronting the intruder with him. The only way I'm approaching that situation is if I'm in a more advantage point than my husband and I know I can take him out without bring harm to me or my husband. I was raised that way-, men provide and protect
Daddy present should be in the home… they should know the difference between dad and mom. The world don’t want to acknowledge this because it cause insecurities, or not being equal in the home.
As I understand it, toxic masculinity is a term or phrase created to denigrate what it means to be truly masculine. Masculinity represents order and structure. Some people belive that to be masculine you are controlling. I don't believe that to be case. P.S. You did the right thing Greg.
Greg you're answer was not wrong or toxic. The only difference it sounds like the lady just reminded your daughter the reason why she needed to wear the life jacket.
Toxic masculinity to me would be the treatment of others. At first, I didn’t even think about kids. I just thought about men who disrespect women and want to rule over women. Aka, Kevin Samuels teachings. Also, the example you gave for telling boys to man up. Bullying people.
I dont know the actual definition of toxic masculinity but I do think it is a buzzword a lot of people use without really thinking bout it. From the examples you used, sounds like it’s a lot of perceptions of how men should be instead of allowing them to be individual people with real feelings and emotions. Like a stereotypical man, when men are not a monolith, and shaming them because they aren’t that stereotype.
❓❓❓❓❓NEXT EPISODE CAN YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL HOW YOU BELIEVE YOU FATHERS MAY HAVE MOLDED YOUR PERSONALITIES GOOD AND BAD ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓and CAN YOU GUYS TELL US A STORY WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOUR LIFE WAS GOING TO BE OVER.. example: animal chasing you as a child or a bad injury and you got through it. ❓❓❓❓❓
Greg is so sweet... No you weren't wrong! The friend was probably a woman, and as women, we have the patience required to help the child understand WHY daddy said this or that... That's all 💚
I thought toxic masculinity was less about what you do and more about why you do it. Like if your son is interested in cooking but you shame him and tell him that's what girls do or make him feel like he's not a man/boy because he likes cooking that would be toxic masculinity. And exploring why you feel like boys shouldn't cook and gender roles and patriarchy and blah blah blah would usually be the root of it. A lot of the times when you ask a man why they feel that way the response is just because or that's the way it should be. Boys shouldn't cry, girls shouldn't play physical sports. Boys shouldn't have to clean up, girls shouldn't wear baggy clothes. Etc. Okay but why not?
I think that people are using the term "toxic masculinity" to blur these lines of "male" and "female". I think the only way that the people who believe in gender fluidity can try to change the minds of the world is to label the traditional male norms as "toxic". No disrespect to what any person believes or how they choose to to walk this earth but males & females are genetically, emotionally, mentally, and physically different. The way we think and process things are going to be different. I think when Goose spoke to his babygirl about the life jacket, he was speaking to LOGIC and the young woman just knew to speak to the babygirl's EMOTIONS. Y'all both had the same message but said it different and that babygirl will learn more about that as she grows up and develops her relationships with her Dad and other men. It is OKAY to be different as men and women. LOL
I think many people overuse the term toxic masculinity because they don't understand that men and women show love differently. Many times the tone of a mans voice comes off harsh to people who were not raised to hear the tone of a man's voice consistently. People have to realize that everyone isn't going to handle you with kitten gloves but that doesn't mean that they are being mean to you or their behavior is toxic, many times it's just unfamiliar.
When you don’t grow up with a father, the way men interact with their children can seem harsh, @marcustanksley . I *think* that’s why Angel thinks the kids are scared of you.
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The way I see it, toxic masculinity often goes hand in hand with misogyny and gender norms, feeling like specific human things such as emotions, hobbies, and careers are "masculine" or "feminine" is toxic in general.
They were doing so well on the female orgasm part but then they got to discussing gender roles and stereotypes as natural and I had to click out. In 2022 how they can there be a struggle over what words mean - in English, that existed independently of them and their best guesses. I guess one takeaway from this is that we always need to start this discussion on what are the benefits to men from understanding any form of intersectional oppression and go from there 💕
I absolutely enjoyed the conversation. Side note: I don't care how you feel about it. No man should be wearing pearls. I said what I said. Good Day! 😂 #TanksRydas #GaggleGang ❤️
If Tank gon' be anythang he gon' be AUTHENTIC!
The way I hollered when Tank said "King Ding-a-Ling" 🤴lol 😆😂🤣
The reason some men feel obligated to like stuff they really don't gaf about, or do certain stuff is because of toxic masculinity. It's not toxic because a man likes to work on cars, it's toxic when you say or do things to try to make a man who doesn't work on cars feel like he's soft or not manly enough.
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Not cleaning the neckbone.....Tank you crazy🤣
The masculine and feminine energies are on a spectrum. When we say masculine or feminine, what we're really saying is "more inclined to respond in this way." they could have been called anything and has different terms in different cultures. Masculinity has nothing to do with gender or sex! Women, men, and non binary friends are all capable of demonstrating masculine (and feminine) energy in an unbalanced and/or forceful way (toxic). That imbalance creates an oppression or rejection of the other energy. (Commonly in the face of religious or colonizing ideaolgies feminine energy/responses are oppressed, subject to undue criticism, and punished.) Awareness of toxic masculinity has risen is because it is so harmful. It does us all such injustice if we're assigning things or judging things to just one gender or sex. It puts people on the defense and ignores other instances of harmful behavior. Really glad this subject is coming up because it gives us the opportunity to take our power back.
I don't think Greg's response was wrong, it was just a missed teachable moment. I grew up under "do as I say," which only taught me to do what I was told without understanding why or questioning it.
That’s true
One thing that goes unmentioned in discussions about #toxicmasculinity is how often WOMEN perpetuate or support incorrect ideals of what a "real man" is. #letustellit
Marcus at 32:48 "And I'd add more to it before I'd take it back!" 😂😂
Greg's genuine "I need a minute to laugh" at 33:22 😂😂
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#dadlife #realmenspeak
#manshyt #underreppedmerch
#blackhusbandschat
#blackfathers
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Goose that interaction with your daughter about the life jacket was not toxic that is part of parenting. Sometimes you need to create boundaries.
Thanks
That's a great example of the purpose of a father in his daughter's life. Women will handle her differently. It's your job as her father to teach her to manage her emotions.
It wasn’t toxic, it did lack empathy to bring down her own emotions. She’s too young to be able to fully articulate her why and that’s where as a parent a little empathy helps.
I have sons in their 30s and I appreciate all you guys discuss. My generation pretend that we're so open, we're not nor were we taught to be. I had to apologize to my children for ingorant and foolish things I said and did to them. Thinking that it was true and right to do. Gooz ,made me holla, with that tell him then give him head statement! 😳🤣. Learning something new can come at any age and from any generation. ❤️
Goose’ response to his daughter regarding the life jacket wasn’t toxic. It was a fatherly response. Girls need both. Soft and fatherly responses. We appreciate it in the end.
Are "soft" and "fatherly" opposite concepts for you?
The things I consider toxic are the action and justification of cheating and abuse (in all forms) from both genders. Neither is conducive for a healthy society.
thanks for this conversation!
i teach emotional literacy and relational wellness. there is *no reason* for a lack of clarity or misinformation around ANY term or definition unless you confer or seek it from unqualified ppl. within the context of this conversation, *toxic masculinity* was still not defined correctly- thus missed opportunities for deep dives or a larger discourse didn’t happen.
there’s too much info out here to be misinformed. i offer you start with acquiring an accurate definition from a reputable source and create discourse around that definition-not ppl’s anecdotal opinions. that’s where the confusion comes in! the appropriate definition will bring light, clarity and create opportunities for education, learning & growth.
much love 🖤
Toxic masculinity actually holds the man back from growth acting in ways they THINK men SHOULD be. We all need space and grace to to grow and evolve as we experience this life 💜💫
Toxic masculinity was originally a term to describe men not dealing with personal issues, bottling them up inside, "just harden up", "boys don't cry" & men not going to therapy etc. It had nothing to do with masculinity itself being toxic per se. The term was high jacked to mean something else, what you guys are describing.
This is what i think it’s less about masculinity but more about toxicity
I don't have conversations with anyone in real life about masculinity (and am almost never around men outside of my household), so the only place that I see or hear reference to "toxic masculinity" is on the internet. I do think that it is sometimes misused to describe negative behaviors or traits that *anyone* could have simply because the person in question happens to be male. On the other hand, some women are also guilty of upholding the societal expectations for men that could be considered "toxic masculinity" as well.
The “hills and thrills” took me out!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I don't think the life jacket situation was toxic. I do respectfully think it was just a moment of bad parenting. Parents usually do their kids a disservice when they make demands of them but don't take the time to use it as a teaching moment, which is what the lady did, helping her understand why the life jacket is important... I said it before and I'll say it again, this podcast is already in my top 5 of everything I listen to (I listen to a lot of different podcasts and this might be number 1)... Looking forward to the continued growth of this podcast
Not sure I ever heard toxic masculinity described as liking “traditionally male” things (cars, etc). I think in that context people are saying men shouldn’t feel obligated to like the things society says men should like, that men should feel free to enjoy “traditionally female/women” interests as well.
Listen y’all are raising your children very well. F toxic masculinity people misconstrued being raised with by a loving father and not having a father in the home. A lot of women who view this as toxic were raised by single mothers and have nothing to compare a loving father to. Period
This was a Wow transparency podcast! Speaking up for a Woman, sexual needs wise, is necessary but know that a man that doesn't care what you are asking for, is not worth sharing yourself with. It's a mutual exchange in a very intimate situation. So glad there are men who can say what we All hear and need to know. Thanks LUTI, Goosby and Tank!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️
Love this show. Y'all always crack me up.
It's tough to have those conversations because men get sensitive and defensive.
Lol, y'all are hilarious --"don't act like yo man is me" .....ego just shattered "he'll be ok tho, eventually, maybe...hopefully" so basically make him feel good, then slide in ways he can be better. Lol, gone pour up a good drank & talk about it Goooooolzby 🥃 another great topic & discussion!
Love the energy. They always have me cracking up. I love how they keep it real.
I'm a day late and a dollar short, but sometimes we have to remind our little people why we are having them do things. Your friend probably saw your daughter upset (as most children get when they can't have their way) and thought to make her feel better about having to wear her vest. It could have been a learning moment for Greg to ask the friend why she pulled your baby aside. I don't the interaction was toxic, but it could have been handled better.
The hobbies people choose are not toxic. It can be "toxic" when people think a person isn't a woman or man because they don't do certain things.
I think it would be great for you all to discuss the term and ideas around being a Simp. This terminology is new to me but a lot of times when I see it thrown around on social platforms it’s by a man that does not seem to respect women and are trying to put down men that do respect women.
Doing my part to help the algorithm because I support this podcast a lot!
My *personal opinion*… a lot of women in my life who scream at men and anything masculine don’t have sons, secure relationships with their fathers, or suffered greatly at the hands of a man. And vice versa. Every man that is embittered by femininity was taught that by an insecure man or was hurt by a woman. All these labels and titles are damn near arbitrary at this point, based on my observations. I could be wrong!
Loving this podcast
This world has become extremely sensitive...everything is practically a touchy subject...it's crazy! I haven't heard this term prior to this episode so you guys taught me something.
These talks you two have are so interesting to me! I love to hear what men think and get their perspective on things.
I think that for those traits that were given as examples of bad masculinity it's important to look at why a person demonstrates those traits. Is a man being aggressive, threatening violence, etc. because they believe that doing those things represent manhood to the exclusion of doing it any other way? Even if the aggression and violence aren't true to who they are or if it's affecting their lives and relationships? When you lump people into the "have tos" and "shoulds" anything could be toxic.
Lordt I be blushing and grinning from ear to ear at the same time!!! Tell us all the tea , sir’s!!!
I really enjoyed this conversation and really discussing how the term toxic masculinity is misused. I think that we are getting to make these comments into toxiityc when it is not but just strong opinions.
Haven’t listened to it yet but know comments help 🙂All love y’all. Side note: Mapquest was amazing to me as a 8/9 year old. I still used it up until my first year of college in ‘08/09 lol.
Hey yall...so glad its Friday
That was a very good clarification on TM, Marcus!
Great show y’all happy Father’s Day and happy Juneteenth ✌🏾❤️🖤💚
I love this podcast and listening to their truths. We all have some unlearning to do and I appreciate listening to people be honest about their journeys and be funny af along the way hahaha.
Thanks for helping us gerrit and understand what toxic masculinity is...
On the swimming issue, no one was wrong. What made a difference is that there was explanation and an understanding of why wearing the protective gear was important.
It's like a boss who tells you to do a report coz he says so. Then another boss who makes you understand that when you do your report in good time, it enables management get a better understanding where the company is at and if there are issues that need escalating and be handled. Your response and call to action is definitely going to be different
I think an interesting discussion would be where's the line between chivalry and toxic masculinity because I think that line varies from woman to woman.
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Marcus said mouth game😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I look at Angel and Marcus as Auntie and Uncle, chile this man said eating necking bones I hollered and I'm in the office!
My guys! I appreciate yall holding it down and giving a real n**ga perspective on this subject.
You went shopping and bought matching stretchy pants and t-shirt lol.
when I realized it, I hollered
In reference to a woman faking an orgasm: in my opinion, if the sex partner can't tell that she is faking (by the actual body response, not her vocalizations), either they haven't made a woman orgasm often enough (or ever) to tell or they simply don't care.
I wont ever watch a man eat neckbones or smoked turkey necks the same again.🤣🤣
Such a great topic!! Great podcast!!
That comment about the pearls was not toxic. I don't see it as that. It is just a difference in opinion. Really enjoying the weekly podcast.
Hey guys! Honesty is best!
@goolzby when dealing with ur girls just take the time to explain why. The life vest situation u could have explained to her why she had to wear it or given her the option to get out of the pool and take it off.
Will do…Thanks
Just dropping by to support 🙏🏽
Loving this podcast!!
Great episode! I always love the conversations that you two have.
This was a really good conversation.
In the most simplest terms toxic masculinity is expectations men have that are harmful to themselves, women and society as a whole. They reason why Goose's interaction with his daughter could be considered toxic is because he told her to do something without giving her any explanation of why and without inquiring or letting her fully express her feelings, so what you've conveyed in that moment was a man doesn't have to care or inquire about her feelings, just do as you're told. With that being said, a lot of women like and want varying degrees of toxicity, as much as we (women) preach gender equality we don't truly want to be responsible and accountable for the same things as men, To the women who say that's not true, I ask you if an intruder comes in to your home with you and husband/ male partner present are you going jump up to go confront the intruder.
That’s usually the example used.. and in reality… yes.. if you look at situations of physical danger.. you will find that women jump in to help their men all the time. Most don’t just go hide behind him. Two is better than one. That’s just a numbers game.
@@canon60458 unless I'm a trained shooter my husband would absolutely expect me to go hide, all of the men in my family as well as my male friends would expect the women to go hide.
@@HotCocoBangbang I’m not talking expectations.. I’m talking reality.. and the reality is that people will launched into action during high stress situations. It will either be flight, fight, or flee.. and most people don’t know what they will actually do… but what we have seen is time and again when a partner is going to launch k to action and help their spouse protect.. that’s the reality. Because if he gets over powered, then what???
@@canon60458 launching in to action doesn't mean confront the intruder with him. If we both to approach the intruder and we're both shot and killed, now my child is an orphan, then what. When I said I'd go hide, I don't mean that literally I meant I would not be confronting the intruder with him. The only way I'm approaching that situation is if I'm in a more advantage point than my husband and I know I can take him out without bring harm to me or my husband. I was raised that way-, men provide and protect
That’s right. I should’ve gave her the reason why I wanted her to wear the vest
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Very interesting topic, cant wait to get into it
Love the energy!
Some men don't like direction.
That’s true most men can’t handle direction. They take it as criticism.
Say It Tank!
...when it comes to My Woman!
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I love the Tanksleys (forgive me for misspelling
Daddy present should be in the home… they should know the difference between dad and mom. The world don’t want to acknowledge this because it cause insecurities, or not being equal in the home.
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Thank you...good stuff!
As I understand it, toxic masculinity is a term or phrase created to denigrate what it means to be truly masculine. Masculinity represents order and structure. Some people belive that to be masculine you are controlling. I don't believe that to be case. P.S. You did the right thing Greg.
lol like the turkey necks😅😅😅😅
I’m at work, but I almost fell flat out…#neckbones
Greg you're answer was not wrong or toxic. The only difference it sounds like the lady just reminded your daughter the reason why she needed to wear the life jacket.
Toxic masculinity to me would be the treatment of others. At first, I didn’t even think about kids. I just thought about men who disrespect women and want to rule over women. Aka, Kevin Samuels teachings.
Also, the example you gave for telling boys to man up. Bullying people.
Clean them neck bones fellas! 🤭😆😁
I’m having some tonight 😂😂
Good conversation like the perspectives 😂
New name for the promise land is boxtail
🤣 yeah it's toxic but I don't take it back!
great conversation guys!!
I see comedian in the future for GoolZby!!! He is hilarious!!
I dont know the actual definition of toxic masculinity but I do think it is a buzzword a lot of people use without really thinking bout it. From the examples you used, sounds like it’s a lot of perceptions of how men should be instead of allowing them to be individual people with real feelings and emotions. Like a stereotypical man, when men are not a monolith, and shaming them because they aren’t that stereotype.
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❓❓❓❓❓NEXT EPISODE CAN YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL HOW YOU BELIEVE YOU FATHERS MAY HAVE MOLDED YOUR PERSONALITIES GOOD AND BAD ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓and CAN YOU GUYS TELL US A STORY WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOUR LIFE WAS GOING TO BE OVER.. example: animal chasing you as a child or a bad injury and you got through it. ❓❓❓❓❓
Marcus… let GoolZby TALK!!!
Greg is so sweet...
No you weren't wrong!
The friend was probably a woman, and as women, we have the patience required to help the child understand WHY daddy said this or that...
That's all
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Toxic feminity 🤔 I've never heard that term before. Interesting..
I thought toxic masculinity was less about what you do and more about why you do it. Like if your son is interested in cooking but you shame him and tell him that's what girls do or make him feel like he's not a man/boy because he likes cooking that would be toxic masculinity. And exploring why you feel like boys shouldn't cook and gender roles and patriarchy and blah blah blah would usually be the root of it. A lot of the times when you ask a man why they feel that way the response is just because or that's the way it should be. Boys shouldn't cry, girls shouldn't play physical sports. Boys shouldn't have to clean up, girls shouldn't wear baggy clothes. Etc. Okay but why not?
You know it’s skinny jeans if you have to jump to get in them lol
it wasnt toxic but explain to her why she has to wear it and make sure she understands its to protect her life.
I think that people are using the term "toxic masculinity" to blur these lines of "male" and "female". I think the only way that the people who believe in gender fluidity can try to change the minds of the world is to label the traditional male norms as "toxic". No disrespect to what any person believes or how they choose to to walk this earth but males & females are genetically, emotionally, mentally, and physically different. The way we think and process things are going to be different. I think when Goose spoke to his babygirl about the life jacket, he was speaking to LOGIC and the young woman just knew to speak to the babygirl's EMOTIONS. Y'all both had the same message but said it different and that babygirl will learn more about that as she grows up and develops her relationships with her Dad and other men. It is OKAY to be different as men and women. LOL
You guys always give the hen pecked married mans perspective. You need one single brother to add balance.
I think many people overuse the term toxic masculinity because they don't understand that men and women show love differently. Many times the tone of a mans voice comes off harsh to people who were not raised to hear the tone of a man's voice consistently. People have to realize that everyone isn't going to handle you with kitten gloves but that doesn't mean that they are being mean to you or their behavior is toxic, many times it's just unfamiliar.
Some stuff is not toxic. There is some stuff a man just should not do. Wearing pearls? No sir. Thats feminine....IDC
Talking about cars is not toxic masculinity. What???????
Okay…I’m going to have to skip this episode. Toxic masculinity is not typical male hobbies. What are y’all talking about?
When you don’t grow up with a father, the way men interact with their children can seem harsh, @marcustanksley . I *think* that’s why Angel thinks the kids are scared of you.