upcoming referendum on family and care
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Thank you for this, the amount of misinformation about this online is insane
It’s scary 😦
(in my opinion) The care amendment is band-aid measure to absolve the government's responsibility to financial and legally support carers in Ireland. A government which don't forget has still yet to agree to the optional protocol to apply the UN convention on the rights of persons with disabilities.
Ireland ratified CRPD in 2018?
@@Bina23432 you're right sorry I meant the optional protocol which shows how to apply the convention! I thought Id edited it will do now
The text in Bunreacht could have indirect consequences on care, beyond a revision of wording. Durable Relationships should be defined in the constitution as we cannot predict how the courts will handle future legal cases. Governments change, but the constitution should be clear to cover all carergivers and care recipients.
The government was recommending the removal of the life in the home article because they took away €85 from a needy woman who is caring full time for her disabled child and the government said she can ask her male partner for the money. She took the government to court and based her legal argument to recover the €85 on the life in the home article. The case is due before the court in April and the government were trying to cut her legal argument from under her legs and so save 85 euros. Now the government will say it was for other reasons but as a former insider in government that is sometimes how government work or not work depending on your view point. Hopefully the lady will get her carers allowance restored
It would be good to speak to lawyers like FLAC/ICCL or disabled people who are advocating a no for the care referendum.
Fantastic interview. You are so professional yet empathetic and real. Again, fantastic.
I so appreciate and respect that you use your platform like this. It's so thoughtful and such a positive thing to do. Love this so so much. Thank you Keelin. ❤
Thank you so much for this!❤ people need to educate themselves.
Also the article does not impede women from choosing to work… that’s misinformation. Most women I know work outside the home. This article has no real implication on their lives at all. It does not state a woman’s place is in the home, it says a woman provides a great service to the state with the work she does in the home. Which is true…? It does not mention working women or anywhere say EVERY woman in the state should work from home. A lot of people are projecting their own inferences and ideas onto this.
I think she was referring to the context to this article when it was written in the constitution women didn’t have the right to work? I could be wrong!
The first female chief justice in this country categorically stated it is not prescriptive, it is recognition of those women's contribution to society
Ahh Keelin thank you for this! Have been getting so frustrated hearing people twist what this referendum is truly about. Am going to share this video with family and friends who have been confused and looking for accurate information ❤
Thank you SO much for doing this, so so important and such a good interview x
This is amazing Keelin, I honestly had so many reservations about voting as the misinformation had me confused. I can make an informed vote now
That father got his support granted by the court with the current legislative
No he didn’t he won it because the judge didn’t want his 3 small children to suffer any inequality.
In fact the judge said
it wasn’t their gift to recognise ‘families’ outside of marriage and said the o meara family were not a “family”
Shelia Duffy lost the same case because her child is 21 and not seen as a dependent
@@EilishBalfeify but your point is still moot as the father got his support granted so his family not based on marriage still got the relief...hence there isn't a good reason to change these Articles in our constitution
@@EilishBalfeify also obviously a person is not a dependent if they are not in full time education or have a disability
Shout out keelins arm
Not me watching this as an Australian lol Awesome job Keelin ❤
thank you keelin 🩵🩵🩵🩵
I'm from New Zealand and I absolutely love your content, including your new podcast!! I feel like you put in so much research, and I appreciate your perspective. Would you be able to recommend any other creators that produce longer form content that you watch or listen to?
Good woman Keelin!!!
There is hige misinformation on both sides, including from your guest in this video.
This referendum represents a huge missed opportunity to take a big leap towards equality and the wording chosen is poor. If the national womens council genuinely cared about equality they would advicate for equal custodial rights for unmarried dads. In Ireland unmarried mums are automatically awarded sole custody while dads are forced to go through the courts to get even basic guardianship rights. Thus, unmarried mums will by default be assumed to be in a durable relationship with their children but dads will not. In fact, u married dads will still have zero automatic rights to care for their own children.
Yet the womens council seem to be perfectly happy with this inequality because it benefits women.
If this referendum passes, we will likely not get a chance at true equality for decades. I'm confident if theres a no vote the referendum will be re-run. I'll be voting No with the hopes that the wording is addressed to be more gender inclusive where unmarried dads aren't treated as an afterthought.
O'Meara won his case in January under the present Constitution and so the present Constitution works for different relationships
I'm from a single parent home, what the hell is she talking about saying that people are telling children "Your family isn't a real family?". Where I grew up there were lots of single parent families and I know they didn't get less benefits than the two parent ones. Seems like the gov are trying to score some social brownie points pre GE to use in their debates.
I haven't decided what I am going to vote, this is why I am watching these videos, the more I watch, the less I feel I know what the point of this is and where its going.
This was so needed, thank you!
Brilliant!
This is great Keelin :)
Fucking yes, pop off Keelin! x
I’m so conflicted on the care amendment because it sounds great in a way but I just feel like it isn’t worded well and it’s confusing. I would love the language to have more foundation because ‘strive to support’ doesn’t personally sound reassuring. Why not ‘will’? Maybe I don’t know enough about constitutional law ? I also don’t love mother being completely taken out because they are the back bone of this country. I agree with the point of wanting inclusivity but is it not alienating for mothers? Could it not be specific in who the care givers are because they aren’t just parents through marriage or otherwise or guardians there are many other kinds even though they might not be considered a ‘durable relationship’? Idk man it’s confusing to me hahahah.
I do agree with the family amendment though.
Totally agree the family amendment was an easy yes for me. FLAC have concerns for the new wording for the care amendment here: www.flac.ie/news/2023/12/12/flac-highlights-concerns-with-the-proposed-care-re/
And Dr.Maeve O’Rourke has concerns you can read here maeveorourke.medium.com/a-right-to-care-and-the-care-referendum-on-8-march-9d6bdc7834ba
I have absolutely no idea about law, I needed to gather so much info and ask so many people questions and I’m still confused on how this will affect us. We still have a week to figure it out 😭
‘The State recognises that care within and outside the home and Family gives to the State a support without which the common good cannot be achieved. The State shall, therefore, take reasonable measures to support care within and outside the home and Family.’
Ahhhh this proposal was a bit more promising, very unfortunate they ‘emphatically rejected’ it :’)
Thanks for getting back to me with those articles much appreciated 😊
Is it possible to vote with no voter id? As it’s saying online it is too late for me to register but I can vote if I bring ID and proof of address. Also with this vote do people know if it’s a “yes” or “no” or 1 and 2 etc. apologies I’ve never voted so I’m curious
If you’re not registered it’s too late, the last day for registration was 21st of Feb. You can check if you are on www.checktheregister.ie/en-IE/ sometimes it automatically registered you. For this it would be a ballot paper with the family amendment which you vote YES or NO and then it would be a separate one for the care amendment with YES or NO. hope this helps!
So will I vote yes or no
Vote NO
lmao such an articulate thoughtful comment
Why?
You will be voting yes to remove the word mother from the constitution, this article protects mothers who choose not to work and be the main care provider - why would we want to remove this? Im on the side of thinking it should be changed to include father/parent, but not removed.
"Durable relationship" is also open to interpretation, this is dangerous. Just like the hate speech laws can be open to interpretation. Who defines what a durable relationship is? We are living through very interesting times, there is so much misinformation. There is a war on consciousness and an anti human agenda. Just be cautious
Deleted my comment lmao
you're as bad as the government. After years of following you, officially unfollowed - :)
Hiya Keelin😊I was just wondering what your opinion on this video about the referendum is? ruclips.net/video/ExyYp_YFLds/видео.htmlsi=QznWmDl5uW84jL9h
I still feel like there are some unanswered things, Im so confused😅Im here for the women of course, but after watching both videos its hard to see whats benefitting women and mothers more?🩷Thanks for this video😊xx
The general rule of thumb is usually when in doubt about what the implications entail for women and families vote no!
@@AineM-lm6pn I agree! Thats why I’m so confused why so many people feel so strongly about voting yes. I feel theres still much not outlined clearly enough about this referendum.
@@CeiliJeanAesthetics it’s been dressed up as a female empowerment referendum and people are taking that at face value and not doing further research.