Swinging Marble Teleporter - Marble Clock Seconds Display Pt.4
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Marble Clock Saga: • MARBLE CLOCK
In my quest to build a marble clock that displays seconds I got to a point where none of the things that I've tried worked reliably so I went back to the drawing board and after internalizing that this marble clock is in itself an absurd machine and that no one can stop me I went all in and built a contraption that at the same time that makes no sense it also works reliably and will make the clock able to work 100% of the time.
This is just one fourth of the total assembly that I have planned for the mechanism required to show one of the two digits required to show seconds and I'll probably merge this clock with the original one so It can show at the same time the complete time with hours, minutes and seconds and make some marble "music" at the same time.
From what I've experienced and If I manage to build it entirely, this will be the first clock that can be detected by a seismograph.
Marbles!!!
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Ivan, are you pleased that the wintergatan comparison components have stopped?
I think the next big project alongside this one will be a marble collector that’ll be able to separate black and white marbles for use again with the clock …and something tells me the white ones will be steel, and black ones ebony wood, and magnetism will separate the balls and send them back to the top of the clock to be used again … 😊
Why do you make your videos in English?
i would prefer it in spanish sometime is really hard to really understand what you said, no offense 😊
Hola. ¿Existe algún canal suyo sonde muestre lo mismo en español?
Entiendo perfectamente el inglés. Pero el de usted es súper ultra malo.
Saludos.
It is VERY HARD to see the DIFFERENCE between the BLACK 'marbles' and the "WHITE" 'marbles' .... I think it's because the BLACK ones still REFLECT a lot of light - There HAS TO be a way to create a BETTER CONTRAST between them... I have NO IDEA HOW tho... I just wanted you to know that it's pretty hard to tell the difference between them... :)
Did anybody else set out 8 months ago to get sucked into a once-per-month saga about a marble clock? Me neither, but I'm still here for it!😂
8 months already... im losing my marbles
@alexkirwan7146 maybe you should take some *time* off
Absolutely. Can’t wait for the next episode. And you know what’s also brutally fun? Watch this with your eyes closed. I mean, just listen to him. He is king of speaking Italian using English words. Do so love that. 😊
@@alexkirwan7146 the other famus marble mashine has just passed 8 years and is far from done :)
I came in for iteration 1 of second marbles. Went back and watched the whole clock videos. Now I'm watching yet another YTer go slowly insane chasing marble contraptions.
I find it strangely enjoyable to watch people people being driven crazy from building marble contraptions.
I find strangely enjoyable being driven by this clock too 😅
If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone go crazy from building a marble contraption on RUclips, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
crazy genius
@@davisdiercks Three. Mattias Wendel was also into marble madness.
@@Beakerbite Four. Honorable mention to Look Mum No Computer
Thank goodness somebody is investing huge amounts of time into unnecessary contraptions, so I don't have to.
At this point this is basically a public service
everything was unnecessary until we needed it
Truly I cannot express how invested I am in this marble clock. Thank you for all the joy these videos bring me
Thank you for following along, I'm having a blast!!
"Clocks should work all the time"
"We don't need disasters"
You gotta love this guy's philosophy! 😂
I was expecting "Clocks should work like... clockwork"
Year 2050: Ivan still working on marble clock has violent brain storm, destroys entire clock and starts over with clear pneumatic tubes.
Who doesn't love an over-engineered solution to a problem that nobody have? This project keeps getting crazier.
We dont care if its usesless, we still watch it 😂
It will tell the time, it will be useful in the most useless way.
That second display is absolutely huge. I love these renaissance people sort of rediscovering what goes into engineering and the process getting there.
This is the very first time ever that someone called me a renaissance person and I don't know how to take it.
@@ivanmirandawastaken I meant is as someone that takes on a challenges and learn many different disciplines to accomplish their goal.
However, the wikipedia definition says it better:
a very clever man who is good at many different things
You take on engineering, manufacturing and all aspects of design in your creations.
@@57thorns can we also add chemistry?
@@sprite6219 Forgot about that part, the marble colouring?
@@57thorns yes
Milliseconds when?
First tenths of a second right? One should dive into madness step by step we're not savages 😂
Ahhhh, good to know there's a proper method on how to descend into madness! 😂
All in due time, right?
@@ivanmirandawastaken Once you're in you no longer recognize the landscape.
Easiest way to display milliseconds would just be to paint one half of each marble black and the other half silver, then glue them on to the output of a high speed motor. At least it seems to me.
Though at that point they're no different from mechanical pixels.
I am a 73-year-old grizzled engineer, pretty tough to impress. Every single one of your videos is totally inspirationa and keeps in the shop MAKING THINGS. Thank you..
Awesome approach! Nice solution with the camshaft and I'm looking forward to the rest of the project!
ok, now you can show the digits from 0 to 9. But you´ll need the numbers all the way up to 59. You´ll need a second machine like this to show every second from 00 to 59?? can´t wait to see this improvement
You're correct. This is the second units. Once I finish the the entire setup for one digit I'll have to do "something similar" for the tenths of seconds, this thing is going to be huge.
Tens of seconds will be a lot easier to manage to be fair
@patrickhector Somewhat easier, since there is more time to prepare the marbles for the next digit, but the tens digit transitions need to be just as fast and also correctly synchronised to the units digit transitions.
@@GodmanchesterGoblin tbh just repeating the design with a 10:1 gear ratio and a 10x steeper angle on the main gear would do it
@patrickhector True, but there might be an issue with the cam angle. I'm no expert though. I'd probably look at using Geneva drives for this.
This is a beautiful "tick tock" addition for the clock!
Is it legal to make a marble video and not say "tight music" even once?
Ok, Interesting. I can't wait to see how you manager to get multiple of them close enough to read as a clock.
Ooh Shiiit...
If I've learnt anything from this series, he will find a way.
Maybe stack them in front of each other? xD
@@TheMagneticDude Yeah. I was thinking about maybe a clever mirror arrangement :D
I was jusr thinking about when the next episode was coming, and here it is!!
I had to design the entire machine before I could start building this section, next episode will take less time hopefully
"a clock should work like... all the time" was a very clever line. just enough of a gap for everyone's brain to finish the joke before switching it to a different punchline. 👌👌
Another commenter nailed it on my feelings…such joy from watching something that must be so frustrating and yet an incredible sense of accomplishment to figure out such a complex puzzle. Thanks Ivan for bringing us along on this ride!
The Marble Clock saga has been a masterclass in practical engineering.
This latest revision is a great demonstration of "going back to the drawing board" and I love it.
The result is an simpler, more elegant design that works more accurately than previous iterations. Bravo!!
I’m not an engineer, scientist, or mathematician, but I find your whole series about your marble clock journey so entertaining! Can’t wait for the next video!
Whilst wintergatan is rediscovering and implementing the entire field of engineering, this channel is satisfying my need for wacky marble contraptions
OH! The magnificent marble madness on display!
Let me count the ways.. _one one-thousand, two one-thousand_ .. 😁👌🏼
This should be put in a museum
I hope for this version to be reliable enough to be displayed working continuously, It may be even be able to bring it to events!
I agree - it belongs in a museum. It's too useless for anything else :P
Maybe near the Foucault pendulum in Paris
Get it to Open Sauce next year!
9:27 The hum is weirdly satisfying, it sounds just like the one in an old water mill made from wood!
Best part of these videos is the "yes, it works!", you can clearly see how excited and proud he is after making it work after hours of engineering :D
1:27 In that case, a much simpler solution would be to look directly at it not more than twice a day and at the correctly chosen premeditated time
Oh dude!
That is way more than I was expecting.
awesome work.
1:20 you missed the opportunity to say "the best clocks work like clockwork"
I thought that was the gag, no?
You Rock! I love watching your process. Keep on keeping on!
I will, thank you!!
I wonder how long until he realises that he will need 2 digits for the seconds in a minute, and that the 10s digit will have to fit right alongside, yet change every 10 seconds
I'm aware of that, you'll see how I thought of everything in due time. And at that same time I'll probably find out that I thought of everything but wrong.
@@ivanmirandawastaken it’s the thought that counts!
It's not the plan that's important, it's the planning.
@@ivanmirandawastakenI'm not sure if I buy that
What will you do for the second digit?
Tenacity PLUS
"Singularity of purpose assures sucess"
...anybody have the time?
Have you considered a walking beam mechanism? (I think that’s what they’re called.)
Used on egg grading machines. I bet you can make a big matrix of those and just yeet (in a controlled manner) the old marbles off the end with the new ones directly behind it. It would be like your old mechanism, but controlled by offset wobbling, not gravity.
was waiting for this video 🙌
This is truly insane! Loving the brute force approach. Also thank you for signing my large printer at Open Sauce 😊
My pleasure my friend 🙏
That wheel/lever mechanism is incredibly satisfying.
This is monster of a contraption.
Seems bigger than the clock itself.
Why don’t you „recycle“, pun intended, the marbles from 0 to 9, probably with two sets of marbles. This way you do not have to reconstruct the whole display every second.
Just show them in time. With the swipe, you can put them away in an ordered fashion.
Bonkers is where you will go. Martin Molin is lost forever in the MMX shadowland/Upside-Down that spontaneously materialized around his chateau in France when he began tampering with the ball bearing elevator/feed mechanism concept. Apparently there is a Malign Force in the multiverse perversely attracted to either marbles, steel balls, European prodigies w fun accents, or perhaps all three. In any event, you are in great danger, my friend. Clocks and time are pointless anyway. Lets get back to 3d printed tanks and time machines.
I believe this could be simplified a lot by removing the darker coloured marbles. They were needed in the original clock in order to serve as a placeholder, but in this design, they don't actually serve any purpose. If you removed them, you could remove the marble sorter.
You could also make a 5 x 3 display grid that was operated by gates driven by servos: one to allow a marble to roll into the display, and another that would allow the marble to leave the display. To adjust seconds, you would then only need to add or remove the individual marbles that differ between the digits. For example - to change an '8' into a '9', you only need to remove two marbles (bottom left corner): all the others can just remain in place. Making digits change this way would hugely cut down the number of marble each second you need to deal with. You'd also get quite a nice morphing effect between digits. Hard to explain without a diagram I'm sorry - but a total of 30 servo operated gates: two for each dot of the digit: one to allow a marble in, the other to allow it out, and only move marbles when necessary.
How about using only white marbles? by having a marble/no marble pixel, filling or leaving the spot empty on the refresh cycle by changing the speed at which the new marble impinges? (Faster marble = both marbles are displaced = black pixel; slower marble = new marble stops in place = white pixel; no marble dropped = no pixel change)
Such an imaginative waste of time! Are you sure you are not English? (Intended as a compliment)
I have to admit I'd cheat. Pick one colour to be the marbles that move, and the other colour likely glued to solenoids to function as gates. All the selection could then be done quickly and simply at the solenoid level...
...maybe that makes you more 'English' than me!
😈 Mike it a full 00:00:00 clock with hours:minutes:seconds 😈
Evil laughter ensueing :D
@ivanmirandawastaken You should use a Geneva drive or Geneva mechanism, so the marbles have a chance to dwell, similarly to a film projector advancing film.
"but as soon as we introduce the black ones, the system grinds to a halt" - Ivan Miranda 2024
Way to real. 0:22
Within 10 eisodes he will figure out marbles are not ideal and he will have, by solving problem by problem, reitterate, reinvented the clock 😂
I love the gears and wheels and levers on this one! It looks like a proper analogue mechanism! Maybe even a little bit like the inside of a clock.
In the Future:
Building a stopwatch down to mililseconds using marbles
Someday, somebody is going to be working on a device that actually is serving a real purpose, and they are going to remember something in one of these crazy marble clock videos that helps them solve a problem. I just love how you are sinking hundreds of hours into an analog device that counts to 10.
Ivan: This thing is as useless as a chocolate thermometer
My brain: But chocolate thermometers are really important when you're trying to temper chocolate
Now how does the second digit go next to it?
Being Neurodiverse and ADHD, I can fully understand your dedication to solving the problems, I have had had many in the last 50 years, But I thought I was bad, DAMN, you are next level. LOVE IT>
Squirrel team 👊
Only problem I see with this so far is the fact that you need two displays for the seconds. Can't wait to see how you resolve that. XD
Absolutely loving the design process here. Absolute madness.
You should polish the black marbles. You do so with a tumbler so you don't have to do each one individually.
The marbles used to be silver and got "painted" this way by chemical process, too much time in a tumbler might polish the coating off entirely, which is my guess as to why he hasn't tried that yet.
@@PromptedHawk I completely forgot he had to turn the black marbles "black". It has been a long series.
If I recall, he hot blued the marbles at first but found a more effecient way to do it and they aren't painted. As long as he doesn't over polish them he should actually be fine. I would take a batch of of silver and black balls and use a micrometer on them to see if there if there is a noticeable difference between the two before doing anything though.
@@infin1ty850 Yeah, it's the over polishing that'd be the problem, I'm guessing it'd need a fairly gentle medium and constant supervision. The bluing probably isn't all consistent throughout the marbles so a fair few would still need at least a touch up.
Honestly, it seems like he's doing alright so far, and the black marbles being shiny could make things confusing if light happens to be hitting the clock just right. I'm gonna say if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Too shiny and it'll be hard to see the digits, depending on the light. They're already half-way too shiny for my eyes.
His descent into madness has been far too entertaining. Also, it’s matrices for the plural of matrix.
I still can't imagine how you are gonna put 2 second-digits right next to each other with this evergrowing contraption
A sua abordagem monomotor é muito interessante! É superinteligente e criativo. Divertido de assistir! Eu inscrevi-me.. Your single-motor approach is very interesting! You are super-smart and creative. Fun to watch! I subscribed.
It’s fun to think about the “rules” of this kind of challenge. The marbles in this design are still rolling under gravity a bit, but they are getting brute force moved quite a bit more than in the previous design.
If you go too far in the brute force direction then you could have a big wheel with ten matrices of marbles glued to it. The wheel rotates 1/10 of a turn every second and shows the matrix with the marbles for the corresponding digit.
But then the design isn’t using the fact that they are marbles at all, so that’s definitely against the rules, whatever the rules are!
Do you know what would be a huge improvement? adding a net to the edge of the table. XD
At this point and the size you could just have a wheel of marbles that are permanently a digit 0-9 lol
That would not be as fun to watch.
@@danielstellmon5330 agreed
Dont be shy Ivan make a clock that reads milliseconds
0:23 Make a marble text generator with your controller and a keyboard
Hi! Your latest video is marked as private on youtube :(
Marble clock tee shirts “we don’t need disasters” !!!!
With a picture of marbles flying everywhere off one of his mechanisms over that Caption...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
1 million dollars PLA marble clock 😂 - btw godd job !
Of course, you're going to need two of these, aren't you? One for each digit in the seconds counter of a clock (00-59) then you can mount it to your huge marble clock and have minutes and hours on that, so you end up with a full clock of hours, minutes, and seconds.
It sounds like this single digit will be the most complicated one in the whole clock. The tens-of-seconds digit only needs to refresh every 10 seconds so it could use a simpler mechanism. We'll have to wait and see what route he goes with :)
@@DanielLamando I am buckled-in for this ride, yeah!
I think what you mean is that the best clocks work... like clockwork
That's some pretty impressive prototyping.
Well... Looking forward to see how it goes, Ivan! Great design! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
"the best clocks work like uhh... all of the time"
what a great quote
First Try! 🎉
I do worry you’re going to need an aircraft hanger to house the finished clock though
if only Davinci had a 3D printer
another advantage of this design is that it looks more like a clock
Amazing progress!! I can't wait to see the next step!
Now you just need to make 6 of these in sync connected to 6 synced full marble selection mechanisms that also work 100% of the time every second.
SUCH A COOL DESIGN!!! So excited for the full clock
this is turning into a glorious project!
Not only you make things work, you make things beautiful, aesthetic and functional, which is truly a awesome trade.
This clock looks so ancient and futuristic at the same time, it’s mesmerizing.
If you code it right, you just need alternating colors of marbles in each lane and only swap a marble if the next number has a different color in that specific pixel. That would remove a ton of movement from the system and allow for extremely lower noise operation. In fact that's the primary benefit of loading these from the back instead of the side. Each lane is isolated. (this could be made even sillier if you just have each lane have a closed loop that pops the other color marble back behind the one that was just replaced)
I'll prove you that I can do even sillier than your even sillier.
@@ivanmirandawastaken I absolutely look forward to it.
Nice :)
Can’t wait till the next video!
"Look at me, doing small scale prototypes and everything, I don't recognize myself..." - oh man so much pain in those words.
Congratulation! You have unlocked a new skill: [SWAP CHAIN]
I have a Sovol SV03. It's a solid peinter with a massive build volume. Comparable to an upgraded Ender.
I hope you can recycle all of the wasted 3D printed plastic! Please do not get stuck in the never ending cycle of re-re-re-design of Martin Wintergartan! I'm an ex-pat from his failed Marble Machine-X project(s).
Just awesome! Your tenacity is contagious!
feels like this thing might obviate the need for a marble selection mechanism. since you can now gain control of the marbles leaving, just keep them on separate chutes like how they come into the matrix. roll them into another matrix that goes up and down every two seconds (controlled by the same cam maybe? at least connected to the same main gear...) and then let them roll back out and merge back into the queue for the matrix. Then you only need 150 marbles total, set them up to display the digits in order once, and you're done. Yes there are some more problems to solve with this, but it seems like it would require less energy and have fewer components that could fail in the end. No sensing parts, no selecting parts. Just marbles moving.
Who is going to stop me!? 🤣
Just because I love language, particularly perculiar language: I love that you're trying to make this clock work like clockwork! XD
I'm not a mechanical engineer but saw a few uses in animation videos of bar linkage mechanisms. Your solution may be better for this in many ways, but what about things like a "Crank Rocker Four bar Mechanism" which does this oscillating movement. When I saw your oscillating plane, it immediately reminded me of these 4 bar linkage mechanisms that turn desk fans back and forth in old designs. The linkage idea can be used to create other movements too such as a tool to pick up something and place it elsewhere all by 1 rotational body such as on an assembly line. Any thoughts on using arm links to create necessary movements of things?
I've looked at four bar linkages and those follow a similar path to the eccentric wheel. The display would never be stationary
@@ivanmirandawastaken it was still fun to try this with AI asking "Create an image of a 4 or more bar linkage a that will oscillate a plane once a second" or other keywords the particular AI uses to help with ideas.
Meta didn't do as well, but I did ask it "/imagine a 4 or more bar linkage a that will oscillate a flat geometric plane once a second" . Funny results ensued.
I’m so ready for the next episode. You should make a super cut, Spiffing Brit had a great video about this, if all the episodes when you finish the project!
Finally, a clock with gears! (I'm loving this series, can't wait to see how the final product comes out!)
What about just never mixing the marbles. Just need 12 loops of 10 ordered marbles
This is awesome! True art.
What if you didn't refresh all 15 marbles every second? Only update the marbles necessary to update the display to the next number.
I wonder how fast that wheel will spin. Will you be counter balancing it?
Probably not needed and it's going to be bouncing everywhere while moving the marbles anyway :)
while watching I reached 8:48 and I realized the video was 75% over which gave me anxiety (especially knowing its his last video, and I've already watched all of his previous ones)
You're making this complicated just for youtube right? The most obvious solution to me would be to build a closed loop system that rotates 10 sets of marbles representing the numers 0 to 9. Show the set of marbles that represent digit 0, flush them so that the marbles representing 1 take their place while the 0-marbles get moved to the back of the queue again.