Was just searching if there was any newer wintergatan related videos out there. Just found yours. seeing that he's MIA for the time being, I guess I'll have to watch yours now!
Martin just posted another update on his community tab! It looks like he's got a huge update on the design for the MMXT. From what i could see from the sketch it looks like the whole top-end of the machine has been nixxed. The barrel looks like the highest point.
@@ivanmirandawastaken I know you said you "blame" Martin for inspiring this project, it could ultimately be "blamed" on Mr. Wandel too, since he's been making marble machines for ages and Martin also used Mr. Wandel's gears software to make the gears in his machine. I like Mr. Wandel's videos and he's even an inspiration to Adam Savage of Tested and formerly Dscovery's MythBusters.
That is an insane amount of work!!! Never seen so many resin parts 😂. I'd also upload a vid of just that final test with a watermark, before someone steals that gorgeous sequence off you 😍
I knew this was MMX2 as soon as I saw that wheel. Martin will probably find this hilarious because you made all the same mistakes that he made in two years, but you did it in two weeks :-D
Somewhere in this series, you need to do a torture test and see how long those pads will last with the ball bearings repeatedly hitting them! If not a music machine, maybe you've made an economical wear testing machine for MIDI pads 😆
Great project!!! I really love it. And it does not matter that all the machine can be replaced with an Arduino controlling directly the buttons. Mechanics is cooool!!! :)
I miss Wintergatan's videos. I think that perhaps he's a bit overwhelmed by the pursuit of perfection, it's a curse, and a blessing all in one. I sincerely hope that your video helps him to understand that it's all for fun, version 1 sucks but ship it anyway, real developers ship. I really loved your approach to this problem Ivan. You clearly have a much closer relationship with 3D modelling, and your 3D printers than Martin has, which is interesting. While he will spend a day manually forming lines in beautifully concentric hand fettled curves, Ivan's aesthetic is far more brutally engineering-based. If straight lines and 3D printed corners will work, then that's what will be done. I loved Ivan's approach just as much as Martins. Both of them had to deal with marbles on the floor. I sincerely hope that this inspires Martin to post again.
Incorrect. There is absolutely no virtue in perfectionism. The best engineers go for 'barely good enough'. Perfectionism is not a substitute for fault tolerance.
@@demacherius1 Agree, you even dont need marbles, right? However, having a closed drum with uC/actuators inside could have some 'magic appearance', as it can play endless music with only a small drum.
Honestly I'd love to see you as part of the design team for the MMXT, Ivan. You've got some ideas that could improve things in the touring edition of the machine and I think seeing the two of you working together would be amazing. And it's not like yours isn't also pretty, which is a big thing on the MMX machines. I feel like combining your design with his might help things along. Please try to get in contact with Martin and the team and see what you can do with them because that machine is going to be amazing and I'd love to see some of your design in it.
wow. More progress in 1 video than martin did in 30. And you did it with your own money. I wish you the best with this. Please don't become focused on a "perfect" or "tight" machine.
Well done, you did more in one video than Vintergatan did in 5 years!! clearly, skills and intellect make a huge difference, Salud !! (I live in Sweden, but that guy is an embarrassment!)
Prototyping, testing, and the will of the person is all that it takes to make something great, everyone has a issue with one thing or another which makes it an area to improve something if you spotted the issue of it yourself and there's others to help give you some suggestions on it too
Part of me hates this because I support Marble Machine X, but another part of me knows Martin would be happy to see people building. So good luck Ivan.
As a huge fan of the MMX, watching all this get built so fast and effortless felt so wrong. When you started running into problems it started to feel right, then the big problems like the marble lift running the wrong way is just classic MMX.
Install a hopper for the marbles at the top of the lift. Inside the lift you could put another row of metal bars to prevent the other side from buckling.
Fantastic work, Ivan! Amazing machine!!! 😃 The points where the balls fall off should be fixed, but the points where sometimes it misses a ball... That adds some unpredictability to it! Which is great! 😃 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Love these sorts of pointless machines! I desperately want to spend hundreds of hours building this sort of thing just to see if I can. This video put a big ol smile on my face!
Martin probably is smiling watching this video while trying to make his MMX to work. Looks nice, but how tight it is? How reliable is it? Need a few hours livestream of marble test!!! 😀 Main issue, there is no cat note!
if you continue with this marble machine idea I'd love to see the design process too, like Martin does on his channel. I love seeing the in-dept explanation and genius solutions.
Add a 3d pinted gear so direction of rotation is reversed. You might have to shorten the belt. I recommend more belt engagement on the drum pulley. You can add a idler to improve belt wrapping on the pulley. Excellent first attempt! Very interesting to see your problem solving skills!
This is wonderful, subscribed. Who cares about testing, you learned so much putting this together faster than if you designed each part meticulously then found out the combination was a disaster. Can't wait for version 2.
Very nice project! It's cool that many makers are building their own marble machines: as Martin said, it has to be done via iterations process, and there's only this much one man can do. So, good idea to go crazy with lifting systems: some might fail, but some may actually be more reliable than what has been tried so far. My own idea would simply be a vertical vise with pockets that could catch the marbles, though I haven't put that much thought into it.
I would love to see more on this contraption. For the lift going in the wrong direction. Go from the drum pulley down to another pulley. On the same shaft put a gear. Mesh another gear with pulley on that same shaft. Then go to the lift. That will change the direction without twisting the belt.
A temporary fix for that twisted belt rubbing on itself could be a small printed idler with shoulders just left floating where the two belts cross. The teeth will keep it in place, and it will act as a belt spacer.
A "fix" for the twisted belt would be a part with 2 small free spinning rollers on a single block right at the point where tensioned belt intertwine. Just gotta measure angle and size to make them fit.
I like these videos just as much as your regular content. I wouldn't want this channel to just be you building a MMX V2, but I think a video on this once a couple months would be cool. I still want other projects though.
For tensioning, have you considered at a car belt style? Basically a spring-loaded arm with a bearing at the end pushing on the flat side of the belt. I have 0 experience with the type of machine you're building, but this could prevent the need of a tensioning gear being friction clamped to the t-track. Incredible project, dude!
Was just searching if there was any newer wintergatan related videos out there. Just found yours. seeing that he's MIA for the time being, I guess I'll have to watch yours now!
You made my day Matthias! I'll try my best!
Martin just posted another update on his community tab! It looks like he's got a huge update on the design for the MMXT. From what i could see from the sketch it looks like the whole top-end of the machine has been nixxed. The barrel looks like the highest point.
Ditto, Matthias!
@@ivanmirandawastaken I know you said you "blame" Martin for inspiring this project, it could ultimately be "blamed" on Mr. Wandel too, since he's been making marble machines for ages and Martin also used Mr. Wandel's gears software to make the gears in his machine. I like Mr. Wandel's videos and he's even an inspiration to Adam Savage of Tested and formerly Dscovery's MythBusters.
I feel like Animusic inspired Wintergatan, and Wintergatan inspired the rest of us. But the truth is, we all can create our own amazing things!
That is an insane amount of work!!! Never seen so many resin parts 😂. I'd also upload a vid of just that final test with a watermark, before someone steals that gorgeous sequence off you 😍
If I'm honest I haven't seen so many resin parts before either 😂
Insane is right. This reminds me of video games, fun but ultimately pointless
@@ivanmirandawastaken What resin printer are you using for the transparant parts. I dont think i have seen you use any.
Your move Angus!
I knew this was MMX2 as soon as I saw that wheel. Martin will probably find this hilarious because you made all the same mistakes that he made in two years, but you did it in two weeks :-D
Easy to do when you're riding on the back of someone else's work.
If he had the same number of subscribers and patreons as Martin, it would take him 3 years to not finish as well
4 years*
Obviously Martin was explaining his mistakes for 4 years, that allowed to repeat them just in 2 weeks.
@@RomanovDA ;-D
Somewhere in this series, you need to do a torture test and see how long those pads will last with the ball bearings repeatedly hitting them! If not a music machine, maybe you've made an economical wear testing machine for MIDI pads 😆
Great project!!! I really love it. And it does not matter that all the machine can be replaced with an Arduino controlling directly the buttons. Mechanics is cooool!!! :)
Yes, mechanics FTW!
I miss Wintergatan's videos. I think that perhaps he's a bit overwhelmed by the pursuit of perfection, it's a curse, and a blessing all in one. I sincerely hope that your video helps him to understand that it's all for fun, version 1 sucks but ship it anyway, real developers ship.
I really loved your approach to this problem Ivan. You clearly have a much closer relationship with 3D modelling, and your 3D printers than Martin has, which is interesting. While he will spend a day manually forming lines in beautifully concentric hand fettled curves, Ivan's aesthetic is far more brutally engineering-based. If straight lines and 3D printed corners will work, then that's what will be done. I loved Ivan's approach just as much as Martins. Both of them had to deal with marbles on the floor. I sincerely hope that this inspires Martin to post again.
Incorrect. There is absolutely no virtue in perfectionism. The best engineers go for 'barely good enough'. Perfectionism is not a substitute for fault tolerance.
lets wait till wintergatan see's this video!!! amazing work!!!
Amazing. Your persistence is unbelievable and what a great design.
Thanks a lot Chuck!!
Standing on the shoulders of giants @Wintergatan
Love it. How about "re-programming" the drum from the inside with uC/actuators on each rotation?
This is a really cool idea.
Neat!
What a crazy over engineered idea! I fully agree
While it would be a cool idea at this point you could get rid of the drum all together.
@@demacherius1 Agree, you even dont need marbles, right?
However, having a closed drum with uC/actuators inside could have some 'magic appearance', as it can play endless music with only a small drum.
Honestly I'd love to see you as part of the design team for the MMXT, Ivan. You've got some ideas that could improve things in the touring edition of the machine and I think seeing the two of you working together would be amazing. And it's not like yours isn't also pretty, which is a big thing on the MMX machines. I feel like combining your design with his might help things along. Please try to get in contact with Martin and the team and see what you can do with them because that machine is going to be amazing and I'd love to see some of your design in it.
Your channel is so underrated Ivan! You should be in the 7 digits subscribers range, your creativity and your energy are so contagious! 😍
wow. More progress in 1 video than martin did in 30. And you did it with your own money. I wish you the best with this. Please don't become focused on a "perfect" or "tight" machine.
i knew someone would scoop MMX while martin is busy endlessly revising the design and creeping the features
There is something very satisfying to me watching marbles move though a machine.
More tanks, more spacers, more marble machines, more Miranda!
Martin stops focusing on engineering videos of the MMX and I can't get my wednesday fix
The Algo: *There is another*
Insanity of the best kind. I want to build a marble run now. The cats would love it 😂 Cheers, JAYTEE
Ivan is standing on the shoulders of giants :D
Well done, you did more in one video than Vintergatan did in 5 years!! clearly, skills and intellect make a huge difference, Salud !!
(I live in Sweden, but that guy is an embarrassment!)
I want to see an Ivan and Martin cooperation video After seeing this video. Great job Ivan!
15:23 My entire life in a single phrase.
It is nice to see someone pick up the mantle of marble machine maker after the Wintergaten meltdown.
Hell yeah do more marble machines!!
Watching the final test sequence was oddly soothing
Prototyping, testing, and the will of the person is all that it takes to make something great, everyone has a issue with one thing or another which makes it an area to improve something if you spotted the issue of it yourself and there's others to help give you some suggestions on it too
I could low-key fall asleep to this machine running, it's so soothing!!!
Cool! Looking forward to seeing how it comes out.
It's a very refreshing take on a marble machine! I love the MMX but it's design has started to stagnate. This is a very welcome addition!
You saying "make something!" is stuck in my head and I had to pause this video to make something! And then I'm looking forward to the rest of it :P
aaand printing!!!
This is the kind of stuff that makes me want to make something (TM)!
And that belt fix is fantastic haha!
Bravo from a Mechanical Engineering student.
hell ya :D im sure the master will be proud
I hope so
Absolutely 100% we want more! Go big, go wild. Been following you both for ages, awesome to see you take on a marble machine.
Love it!! Best machine ever!! Congrats mate!! Make it bigger!!!
love the smooth ball corner block
Part of me hates this because I support Marble Machine X, but another part of me knows Martin would be happy to see people building. So good luck Ivan.
it's a most amazing marble machine what I seen!!!
As a huge fan of the MMX, watching all this get built so fast and effortless felt so wrong. When you started running into problems it started to feel right, then the big problems like the marble lift running the wrong way is just classic MMX.
You know your goin to have to colab with Martin.. Marble Machine Off 2022!
This is impressive for a first run. Great work!
Thanks!
Install a hopper for the marbles at the top of the lift. Inside the lift you could put another row of metal bars to prevent the other side from buckling.
Fantastic work, Ivan! Amazing machine!!! 😃
The points where the balls fall off should be fixed, but the points where sometimes it misses a ball... That adds some unpredictability to it! Which is great! 😃
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Cheers!!!
Love these sorts of pointless machines! I desperately want to spend hundreds of hours building this sort of thing just to see if I can. This video put a big ol smile on my face!
Martin builds the MMX and fixes one issue after another for two years now. Ivan: hold my spaaacer!
Btw. I miss the green plastic hammer
All the time, I was waiting for it to start playing the Marble Machine Song, and you *not* mentioning Martin :D
You are awsome. Looking fortward to the Progress of this project
I would consider using two independent motors for the marble lift and drum
the test run is mesmerizing. the camera work and sounds are perfect
Yes please, take it further 👍👍💗🎶
Yeah!
Collaboration with wintergatan is a must!
Martin probably is smiling watching this video while trying to make his MMX to work. Looks nice, but how tight it is? How reliable is it? Need a few hours livestream of marble test!!! 😀
Main issue, there is no cat note!
If you enjoy it, then you should do more videos on it. You can see a difference in people who enjoy what they do, and is enjoyable to watch.
A pinball machine would be an awesome build!
Man I love your builds
I discovered this channel through Wintergatan and now the circle is complete when you make the Marble music machine :D
I want to say resin printing was a good choice, but I bet it will wear fast. Maybe if the parts were epoxy coated for wear resistance.
I have something in the back burner...
How could this leave ya anything other then smiling :)
Amazing engineering story. It was hilarious to watch. Especially 8-fold belt trick. Thank you!
if you continue with this marble machine idea I'd love to see the design process too, like Martin does on his channel. I love seeing the in-dept explanation and genius solutions.
Yes! I would like to see more marble machines.
Add a 3d pinted gear so direction of rotation is reversed. You might have to shorten the belt.
I recommend more belt engagement on the drum pulley. You can add a idler to improve belt wrapping on the pulley.
Excellent first attempt! Very interesting to see your problem solving skills!
And there is Ivan going Full Wintergatan! 🤣
very nice machine well done if you can tell us while prsenting about how was it printed too like if its a FDM or another kind of printer
Marbels on the Floor !!!!
Love it.... your construction methods gave me ideas on how to do some of my projects....
This is wonderful, subscribed. Who cares about testing, you learned so much putting this together faster than if you designed each part meticulously then found out the combination was a disaster. Can't wait for version 2.
So cool, please keep going!!
Genius
Very nice project! It's cool that many makers are building their own marble machines: as Martin said, it has to be done via iterations process, and there's only this much one man can do. So, good idea to go crazy with lifting systems: some might fail, but some may actually be more reliable than what has been tried so far. My own idea would simply be a vertical vise with pockets that could catch the marbles, though I haven't put that much thought into it.
The new and improved wintergaten
Each channel should use its own Archimedes Screw to lift the marbles up.
Impressive for a first try keep up the good work
i love this! your channel has motavated me to get my own printer and id love to ttry to copy this build!!!
Please continue on this project.
Glad you have sponsors, this could not have been cheap...
I would love to see more on this contraption. For the lift going in the wrong direction. Go from the drum pulley down to another pulley. On the same shaft put a gear. Mesh another gear with pulley on that same shaft. Then go to the lift. That will change the direction without twisting the belt.
There's "on par", "get on my level", "next level", and then there's Ivan Miranda.
you could use a spiral design / screw like design for lifting the marble
Fix the belt direction and put some silicon/rubber tube over the marble catching rods and you have a fine, fine machine!
A temporary fix for that twisted belt rubbing on itself could be a small printed idler with shoulders just left floating where the two belts cross. The teeth will keep it in place, and it will act as a belt spacer.
What does you use for modeling?
Fusion 360
Definitely would love to see a 2.0
A "fix" for the twisted belt would be a part with 2 small free spinning rollers on a single block right at the point where tensioned belt intertwine. Just gotta measure angle and size to make them fit.
That's really impressive.
Please ride the madness all the way to the end.
You really see there's material shortage when Ivan makes something without using red plastic!
I like these videos just as much as your regular content. I wouldn't want this channel to just be you building a MMX V2, but I think a video on this once a couple months would be cool. I still want other projects though.
Spacers! @ 12:26. I was waiting.
I want to see more of this!
Incredible effort Ivan! Please show us more!
To make the elevator turn in the other direction, it is necessary that the belt drives a gear and the wheel of the elevator is caught in this gear.
Yep, works about as well as one designed by Martin. Legit
I love this!!! I'm a wintergatan fan, watch all of his, and it was very fun to watch your approach.
My only feedback is: Add a real xylophone :)
You need a neodymium magnet on a stick to pick up all the marbles!
For tensioning, have you considered at a car belt style? Basically a spring-loaded arm with a bearing at the end pushing on the flat side of the belt. I have 0 experience with the type of machine you're building, but this could prevent the need of a tensioning gear being friction clamped to the t-track. Incredible project, dude!
Awesome work.. once again.. Kudos
Awesome for your first attempt. I’m sure it will just improve with time. Keep it up, will be looking for more on this project
I think a spiral lift would be the most consistent.
Very impressive would be interesting to see a musician go at it and see what they can produce
gotta watch the lego marble matchiness. TONS of lift ideas, and the like. the screw lift should work well for you, as it is easy to scale, as needed.