Yes, even after this caveat: remember what preceded the last 3 games where the offense finally clicked? Carr was passing to where the receivers "should be" on routes & yelled at them on the field & Allen just let him, as if he didn't see it? I _think_ that this was all done to oust Carmichael the OC. I think that as with the Steelers, Saints ownership meddles in operations in the background & hires who They Want even in coaching positions & that even if this wasn't intended, The Reason Allen let it happen was that seeing Carr fix what Carmichael broke got Pete fired. If the offense continues like it did in the last 3 games then they *are gonna win this division,* not the Falcons. Maybe. They'll play better, sure. I still don't trust Carr in the clutch though.
@@Silverdollarsaturdaysagreed, they just kept kicking the can down the road with not even a feasible plan moving forward. Kinda crazy to think the GMs they hired are supposed to be ppl who are financially literate
Here’s my issue with people criticizing the Saints Cap management, it’s typically incredibly ignorant. The Cap management strategy they adopted for the end of Bree’s’ career isn’t something you flip back to in one season, like everyone who criticizes it seems to think. I would also argue, that getting the balance sheet back to zero or below might not even be the best strategy for using the maximum amount of resources to build a team. There’s no “interest” penalty for pushing money into the future. The only real downside is on the owner of the team, because it requires more cash be paid up front. If the owners fine with that, there’s zero reason for the fanbase to complain, it doesn’t effect what they can or cannot do In really anyway, other than moving on from multiple players at the exact same time. They have to space out, moving in from players with large contracts & money pushed into future. For example, they moved on from 3 of those types of players just this season, in Winston, Mike Thomas, & Andrus Peat. They really only have 7 players left who fall under that criteria currently. Jordan, Davis, HoneyBadger, Hill, AK, Ram & Carr. Ram willl retire next season & they already reduced Cam & HoneyBadgers contracts. At the end of the day, they had 2 options, take massive Cap hits over 2 seasons & barely be able to even field a team, most likely winning only a couple days, OR, the plan they chose, a staggered reset over about 5 seasons, that allows them to remain competitive and if things work out, they’ll have the same chance to make a run in the playoffs as 90% on the NFL, still giving their Vets like Cam & Davis an opportunity in the twilight of their careers. This IS the best strategy for their Players, Fans & Ownership. The only people who are negatively effected by this strategy are the media & analysts who refuse to understand what the Saints are doing with their non-conventional Cap management.
@@Kyle-bi7df That's hard to say. He was hampered by a bad offensive line and terrible OC. Having said that, the playcalling was so bad, he still have been able to spot the obvious, such as Jimmy Graham not being used in the Red Zone constantly and our playmakers not getting enough touches.
@Kyle-bi7df , how do you figure 32nd best head coach with a 9-8 record? I mean, there were 14 teams who finished with losing records. 🤷🏿♂️ The Saints should have done better, but 32nd isn't being objective.
Asking whether or not we trust Carr and Allen to win is not the right question to ask. People should be asking if Kubiak and Carr can put together a consistent complimentary offense to keep defenses on their toes and take advantage of the positions their good defense puts them in. As long as they can do that at an average level they will take the weakest NFC conference and be just fine this year. It's incredible how people forget that the saints completely revamped their offensive staff and mindset. I don't expect them to win the super bowl or anything, but if they string together some wins at the end of the season and carry that momentum into the post season anything can happen. Kamara for MVP!!! Geaux Saints!!
The Saints have been the most active team on pushing salary cap money into the future. Unfortunately, they have been doing this with now average to below average players who are now past their prime (Kamara - 19M cap hit, Cam Jordon - big contract to 35 year old, Carr - big contract to average player, Ryan Ramzyck - old and injury concerns. Taysom Hill - 35 year old TE, Demario Davis - big contract to 35 year old, Mattison - injury prone corner). At least Philly and the Rams who do similar cap manipulations do it with good players. The Saints will need two years to undo their cap situation and get themselves into a place where they can properly start a rebuild.
Taysom is 33 I don't know why you had to lie lol kamara still has atleast a year or 2 Aswell, top 10 defense and new OC our old OC WAS 30-32 WORST and went 9-8 lost the playoff spot to a tie breaker but yall really know what your talking about so I shouldn't question it lol 😂
Ram is about to retire due to injury issues. Taysom Hill and Demario Davis still killing it. Lattimore doesn't have a big contract so that's a moot point.
@SenorJuan2023 Lattimore's cap number goes over 30 million next year....they will have to address that, especially if he misses a lot of games again. Hill and Davis have been going well...not great, but well, but are way on the wrong side of 30. Unsure how Ram retiring impacts the cap...a lot of his contract had injury guarantees.....hard to interpret the Spotrac and OTC numbers in this case.
9-8 last season and they fixed their biggest problem by changing the offensive coordinator. They addressed the pass rush and offensive line concerns. Salary cap issues don't exist. They have been dealing with that "issue" for twenty years and they've been one of the best teams through that span. Weird that you would critique the defense at all. It will always be good as long as Dennis Allen is there and it's full of good players. People say they should blow it up and rebuild, guess what, they are rebuilding. Just a few years after Brees and Payton left, they are already getting better and finding a new identity. Most "cap issues" are clearing up just in time to start over paying other players in the next couple of seasons. they already have a very good roster that is weak at a couple positions. Seems like they set themselves up pretty well. Falcons ain't winning squat.
found the delusional Saints fans😂😂😂😂 you guys have literally been nothing since Brees, your QB is Derek Carr and you are making no big changes to your team at all, you are in the same situation as the Steelers except worse because of your garbage head coach, be realistic
@@Kyle-bi7dfCarr started off rough but finished as one of the highest rated quarterbacks in the last 5 games. For the season, he was 10th in passer rating and touchdowns, and he was 6th in completion percentage. He was fringe top 10 last year if you're being objective. That was with the worst playcaller in the league, no run game, and a horrible offensive line. Now he has a competent OC, who specializes in optimizing the run game, and his scheme is supposed to help the line. They also drafted a stud in Fuaga, who should help that line even more. Carr also has a full season with those receivers under his belt, so their chemistry and timing should be better. Does all that mean they will dominate this coming year? Of course not. There are still some issues, but Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore were injured last year, but should be healthy now. They also added Chase Young on a 1 year "prove it" deal. Kool-Aid McKinstry was a steal in the draft as well. I don't think it's as bleak or hopeless as some are projecting. 🤷🏿♂️
AT Perry is top of my list for breakout candidates this year. He was an absolute steal for a 6th rounder. And Taysom will be fine. A lot of people ignore the fact that he started playing when he was like 27 so he still has a lot of gas left in the tank.
I agree the Saints need to rebuild but I absolutely think Kubiak will do wonders for the run game. Carmichael didn’t know how to call run plays and the O line was so weak at it even when they were ran it was basically the running back against the whole D line. Kubiak has already been working on far more run plays in camp especially around the full back. I expect the run play numbers to go up. I don’t know how much but more
Overall great points, but slight pushback on the GM salary cap mechanics comment. They started this max salary short term view as Brees aged and Payton wanted to try for it all, instead of it being those two covering for it this whole time. One can say they should have stopped when he retired, but ownership has a lot of say in whether they want to accept that type of embarrassing play for a year or two
Unless you're over the age of 35 I feel like a lot of these young commentators write off athletes in their late 20s to early 30s. There is no concern. Those players are still in their prime and unless they sustained major injuries they will perform just as well or better than a 24 year old. It's like you forget these are top athletes not 33yo suburban dads.
@@40EastTrill they also aren't training as their job and have the best professionals in sports medicine and nutrition to take care of them. Again unless they have a major injury these late 20s early 30s are playing at peak levels.
I assume you belive that the Saints won't suck this year, so if I may ask, what makes you excited for the upcoming year? What do you personally see the team's ceiling as?
@@zachstutzman4059 they have a top 10 defense they have weapons like taysom hill AK (i know they are getting older but you would be lying to say they dont have explosive and game changing potential) olave Shaheed new OC . Last year's OC WAS 30-32 worst in the league so its an improvement already
People talking about the cap havent been following the saints the last couple years every year the cap is like -100 mil and people freak out, then they rework contracts and stuff and then theyre under. Kicking the can down the road works when the salary cap is ever increasing, as well as getting rid of some contracts and future contracts like with trey hendrickson. Micky Loomis has been the GM since 2002 i think he knows what hes doing
The dolphins were also terrible vs playoff teams, so were the cowboys. I’d argue their future is even more concerning because their QBs will get paid big
@@aintnoway8594 how is McDaniel a top 5 coach? They have a top 5 front office for sure, but they seem outcoached against every playoff team they face. Cowboys have top talent for now, but I’m not sure they’ll do after they pay dak, ceedee and micah
Seems like ever since the Saints were robbed in that playoff game against the Rams, they haven’t been the same. They’ve had talent, but never a complete team. And Injuries didn’t help either.
There is a lot I disagree with in this video. Mostly all of the national talk analysis which gets a lot wrong about this team. We have an upgraded team from last season. We lost the tie breaker to get into the playoffs. No reason to think the falcons which have been extremely mid for 10 years now will all of a sudden win the division because they upgraded their QB position with an aging QB that is coming off of a major injury. Don't count the Saints out of playoff talk even at a 9-8 record because that can win this division, look at the bucs last season. Go listen to some local analyst shows and you will get a very different feel to this team.
Yall worried about the Saints Cap, yall need to be talking about any Team that's paying their QB more than/ just as much as Mahomes lol. They're paying them more money with more help but cant beat him at the highest stage. 🤦♂️😂
@@teejayman215 obviously don’t know shit about us had a top 10 secondary last year😂the only one over 30 is tyran the only person who was on the team in 2020 was Marshon and the pieces next to him were worse shut yo casual ass up
How is this roster the least inspiring in the NFL? The Panthers are literally next door in the same division. Are the Titans inspiring? The Giants? I dont see how they are in the same category.
The QB situation for the Panthers and Titans is more inspiring. Will Levis showed flashes and I think Bryce will have a big bounce back season. Giants are imo very similar to the Saints
The Saints for the first time in forever, they didn’t spend a ton of money in free agency. Their big free agency signing was a 1 year, 13 million dollar contract to Chase Young which was really a 1 year 3.5 million. They also drafted for needs, and for future needs for a change. Lattimore is likely out the door sometime in the next two years, Carr is a contract they can get out of in two years, Ramczyk is likely to retire, Cam Jordan will retire after this year, and Alvin Kamara is likely to get an incentive based contract. People overlook the fact this is now a competitive rebuild, which is exactly what the Vikings have been doing since 2019. I think their situation is completely overhated, and it’s not impossible to get out of.
Respectfully, max out the cap and never plan ahead is simply wrong. It took a pandemic to derail the Saints way of doing business. The bill never comes due as long as the cap continues to rise (which it does every year). As long as they can avoid another pandemic there is no difference between the way the Saints do business and any other team.
I just believe that the offense that Pete Carmichael had was not a good offense. I can see how klint Kubiack helps our offense. I feel like we could be a sneaky good team. We can probably win the division.
The Saints are the most purgatory team in the NFL. They don't wanna rebuild no matter what so it's like why bother? Also remember when Saints fan thought for sure they would make the playoffs? 😂
Spot on analysis. The Saints feel the epitome of the 16th / 17fh best team in the NFL. 8 - 9, 9 - 8. Worst case scenario is age catchs up to their core, they bottom out, dump Dennis Allen and are forced to rebuild. Best case scenario, they stay healthy and lean on veteran leadership to comfortably win the NFC South, and make a surprsingly deep run in the post season in an unpredictable NFC. Likleist scenario? Hover around 500, snag a wildcard spot or barely miss out. I am leaning towards them making the post - season. Dennis Allen is imo, a great DC who shouldnt be an HC, but there is something to be said about continiuty.
The Vikings never transitioned from a HOF coach and Qb the Saints are in a transition from 20 years of sustained success they not gon just tear that down and start over they gon build on what they have and thats their philosphy wheather we agree or not
8:36 The rest of the video is right. Dont get the Lattimore criticism tho. When on the field he has the ceiling of a top 5 corner ITL. Year 8 yes, but he was a young rookie. As long as the injury bug doesnt hit. He is that guy.
I think if the saints are above .500 at Week 8, I think the saints will pull the plug on Dennis Allen. Pete is gone so that’s gotta count for something right…..RIGHT?
If Dennis Allen will let the offense flow and focus on D I think the Saints could surprise people our secondary is lights out , Linebackers are solid and I'm hoping the D Line rotation improves with young in the mix but this team is. D team I can be honest and say the O line is concerning
The Future Isnt Doomed! We Still Have Multiple Drafts Coming And We Resetted Our Mane Issue, And That Was OC and the entire offensive staff we good, our qb had a solid year to say he had a terrible person calling plays for him and a bad oline carr will be okay! our defense is top in the league and cap aint nun fareal! we will be okayy! whodatt
New Orleans native and Saints fan for life and I been calling for the rebuild since 2021, it was clear as day the direction the team was heading in our first year post Drew Brees and Loomis/Benson seem to think Drew Is still here. Take the bad years build some draft stock, GET UNDER THAT CAP FORREAL not just kicking it down the road and live with the results. The Bills did it and have been in the playoffs the last 6 years straight.
New Orleans needs to wipe the slate clean and start over from scratch. Fire Loomis, fire Allen, trade away star players for draft capital and clearing up cap space. They are in rebuild mode.
@@kevinmckay2483exactly and if we win 1 more game no one is whining about our future being in jeopardy, if people weren’t casuals and actually looked at our roster we got pieces for the future everywhere, this guy football analysis is a known saints hater to
@@TooCoolToCare32 literally if groupe hits the field goal vs the packers we would have been in the playoffs and they would have been out lol. Idc though I let people think they know what their talking about
My Saints will be mediocre as long as Dennis Allen is the head coach. I don't know why he wasn't fired other than ownership seems to like him. I expect the Saints to be just below average again this year. As a fan, I'm hoping they tank the season so Allen will have to be fired. It may be time for Loomis to move on as well. He's been with the team since 2000.
That doesn't make any sense. Allen has 2 fewer wins than Payton did in his first 2 seasons with the Saints, and Payton had a FAR better roster. The only thing Allen has that was better than that 2006 team is the defense. Well, he's the REASON the defense is better. He made a smart decision in firing Carmichael and the rest of the offensive staff. Then, he made a great decision bringing in Kubiak to fix the scheme and the offense. I was a DA hater at 1st, but if you can't see that they're actually making solid moves, I don't know what to tell you. Most solid teams are built this way. A head coach who is either a defensive or offensive specialist that hires the opposite as a coordinator. Reid has Spagnuolo, Payton had Williams and Allen, Bowles had Canales, Dan Campbell has Ben Johnson. Hopefully, Kubiak works out, because DA has that defense cookin'. 🤷🏿♂️👍🏿⚜️
Its obvious that you dont even know what is happening with the saints, you mention kendre having a bad year as if he was healthy to begin with lol. You claim theyre not doubling in penning and he was only moved to the other side of the line, you didnt mention tysom hill and you claim that they wont go from 3.6ypc to 5ypc as if improving to 4-4.3 wouldnt be a massive improvement. Nobody wanted winston to get in, the times he did he lost all the games, including a 17-0 lead in the 3rd quarter, he was so bad thst carr was forced to play Injuried against the bucs the 1st time , if carr didnt get Injuried they wouldve been in the playoffs and all of a sudden you would be Claiming thst that hace stars all around the defense because its obvious that you dont know what is going on and only repeat the same recycled commentary from the media
Our offense was our issue with Pete he never should of got the play calling job after SP left. If everyone can stay healthy kubiak will unlock the offense and Carr can be a good game manager for us and get us into the playoffs again. He showed improvement down the stretch last season and just needs a guy like kubiak. Also in regards to our future we’ve got plenty of building blocks, Olave, Shaheed, A.T, Bub Means, Fuaga, Kendre Miller, Kool Aid, Adebo, Tae Taylor, Howden breakout candidate at safety, granderson is the most underrated edge in the league and will be another age less guy like demario where he’ll age like fine wine, who knows what we got in foskey, turner I’m happy to say is a bust mainly due to his injuries, Bresee, Khristian Boyd could become a steal to, Ford at lb will be another steal to. Get your heads out of your bootys and stop being sheep if you break our team down we are a lot better off than most teams are.
This is a bullshit take. That team lost one game by ten or more. The idiots that talk about tearing down a team for the crap shoot of a qb. The saints are not bad truly in every game. The offensive coaching change is gonna make huge differences in this team. You guys with the doom and gloom bullshit. They are in a better place than lots of teams.
I'm a falcons fan and I don't see us winning the division. I see us starting out 4-0 maybe 5-0 against some good teams and getting a lot of hype but then losing 4 of the next 5 and being 6-4 or 5-5 losing against bad teams and losing key players to injury they then lose 4 or 5 of the last 7 to go 8-9 or 7-10 to finish 2nd to whoever it may be NO or TB who win the division by a game or win via a tie breaker better division record of 4-2 to ATL's 3-3 cause we couldn't beat any of them twice
@@danirey425giants will never be the saints saints are on the border of being a playoff team 9-8 giants are on the border of the first overall pick in next year's draft, atleast be objective lol
@@danirey425lol nah my guy the giants are definitely in the mud saints have a far better situation roster wise with young players and all. It’s just the cap that’s killing us
If their division wasn’t so bad they would’ve blown it up a couple years ago. It’s hilarious that the Saints terrible rivals are keeping them mediocre.
Yeah i think NO will struggle, Atl got better, TB is still a good team, just Car struggle too, so winning their division will be hard, depends if they can remain healthy
Tryann left for Saints yeah nothing big happened when you left. Team really fell apart when he left Willie Gay said sure I will my chances and join him.
I havent seen the video yet, but as a Saints fan, theres one word the saints need to do, REBUILD. At best, we are a 1st round exit, and at worst, a 7-10. To bad to be good, and to good to be bad.
@@PoisedHD they finished with a top 10 defense AND offense last year. That's not progress??? The offense started off rough, but finished as one of the top-rated in the league, but that's not progress? That had the worst OC in the league, fired him, and got a new OC from the Super Bowl runner-up, but that's not progress? Sure, they still have some issues, but there's still a LOT of talent that would be wasted in your scenario. 🤷🏿♂️⚜️
At least you are bitching about being mediocre -- you got your Superbowl title to show for it, which is more than a lot of teams including my Bengals. Be grateful.
I love my saints, but we really need to rebuild and draft our franchise QB. Our GM is ok with being mid by signing seeker Carr. We have to many delusional fans thinking this year is going to be different. Really hope the saints get punched in the mouth and brought back to reality. The Brees/ Payton era is over and we need to move on.
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How far do you think the Saints go in 2024? 🤔
Straight to the basement
11-6 MINIMUM! Who dat baby!!
I think they will be a fringe playoff team but not quite there. They gotta stop holding on to the aging veterans.
3rd in division. Bucs and Falcons gonna be fighting for division winner
I see 9-8 maybe I really want us to move on from car so 6-11 😂
Didn’t Josh Allen also play for the University of Wyoming lol
LOL I wonder if our guy did that on purpose.
Who 🤣
That's exactly what I was thinking lol
Unless we're talking about two different UoWs, in which why are there two universities for like 40 people?? 😂
Yes. Same Wyoming at the same time.
i think that was a joke because he knows josh allen played at wyoming
They need a hard reset and to accept they'll suck for 3 years. Their cap situation is a nightmare.
IMO they should have blown it up after brees retired. Delaying the inevitable is what screwed them and will continue to screw them
No cap, no cap in other words 🤷♀️
They won't. They will forever be in purgatory and try to fight to be mediocre every year
Yes, even after this caveat: remember what preceded the last 3 games where the offense finally clicked? Carr was passing to where the receivers "should be" on routes & yelled at them on the field & Allen just let him, as if he didn't see it?
I _think_ that this was all done to oust Carmichael the OC. I think that as with the Steelers, Saints ownership meddles in operations in the background & hires who They Want even in coaching positions & that even if this wasn't intended, The Reason Allen let it happen was that seeing Carr fix what Carmichael broke got Pete fired.
If the offense continues like it did in the last 3 games then they *are gonna win this division,* not the Falcons. Maybe. They'll play better, sure.
I still don't trust Carr in the clutch though.
@@Silverdollarsaturdaysagreed, they just kept kicking the can down the road with not even a feasible plan moving forward. Kinda crazy to think the GMs they hired are supposed to be ppl who are financially literate
Here’s my issue with people criticizing the Saints Cap management, it’s typically incredibly ignorant.
The Cap management strategy they adopted for the end of Bree’s’ career isn’t something you flip back to in one season, like everyone who criticizes it seems to think.
I would also argue, that getting the balance sheet back to zero or below might not even be the best strategy for using the maximum amount of resources to build a team.
There’s no “interest” penalty for pushing money into the future.
The only real downside is on the owner of the team, because it requires more cash be paid up front.
If the owners fine with that, there’s zero reason for the fanbase to complain, it doesn’t effect what they can or cannot do In really anyway, other than moving on from multiple players at the exact same time.
They have to space out, moving in from players with large contracts & money pushed into future.
For example, they moved on from 3 of those types of players just this season, in Winston, Mike Thomas, & Andrus Peat.
They really only have 7 players left who fall under that criteria currently.
Jordan, Davis, HoneyBadger, Hill, AK, Ram & Carr.
Ram willl retire next season & they already reduced Cam & HoneyBadgers contracts.
At the end of the day, they had 2 options, take massive Cap hits over 2 seasons & barely be able to even field a team, most likely winning only a couple days, OR, the plan they chose, a staggered reset over about 5 seasons, that allows them to remain competitive and if things work out, they’ll have the same chance to make a run in the playoffs as 90% on the NFL, still giving their Vets like Cam & Davis an opportunity in the twilight of their careers.
This IS the best strategy for their Players, Fans & Ownership.
The only people who are negatively effected by this strategy are the media & analysts who refuse to understand what the Saints are doing with their non-conventional Cap management.
Right. The cap situation is just something for the negative crybabies to complain about.
Stacanova well said!
Saints replaced their horrible OC, and he was a HUGE problem.
But they still have the 32nd best head coach in the league???
@@Kyle-bi7df That's hard to say. He was hampered by a bad offensive line and terrible OC. Having said that, the playcalling was so bad, he still have been able to spot the obvious, such as Jimmy Graham not being used in the Red Zone constantly and our playmakers not getting enough touches.
@Kyle-bi7df , how do you figure 32nd best head coach with a 9-8 record? I mean, there were 14 teams who finished with losing records. 🤷🏿♂️ The Saints should have done better, but 32nd isn't being objective.
Asking whether or not we trust Carr and Allen to win is not the right question to ask. People should be asking if Kubiak and Carr can put together a consistent complimentary offense to keep defenses on their toes and take advantage of the positions their good defense puts them in. As long as they can do that at an average level they will take the weakest NFC conference and be just fine this year. It's incredible how people forget that the saints completely revamped their offensive staff and mindset. I don't expect them to win the super bowl or anything, but if they string together some wins at the end of the season and carry that momentum into the post season anything can happen. Kamara for MVP!!! Geaux Saints!!
The Saints have been the most active team on pushing salary cap money into the future. Unfortunately, they have been doing this with now average to below average players who are now past their prime (Kamara - 19M cap hit, Cam Jordon - big contract to 35 year old, Carr - big contract to average player, Ryan Ramzyck - old and injury concerns. Taysom Hill - 35 year old TE, Demario Davis - big contract to 35 year old, Mattison - injury prone corner). At least Philly and the Rams who do similar cap manipulations do it with good players.
The Saints will need two years to undo their cap situation and get themselves into a place where they can properly start a rebuild.
Taysom is 33 I don't know why you had to lie lol kamara still has atleast a year or 2 Aswell, top 10 defense and new OC our old OC WAS 30-32 WORST and went 9-8 lost the playoff spot to a tie breaker but yall really know what your talking about so I shouldn't question it lol 😂
Ram is about to retire due to injury issues. Taysom Hill and Demario Davis still killing it. Lattimore doesn't have a big contract so that's a moot point.
@SenorJuan2023 Lattimore's cap number goes over 30 million next year....they will have to address that, especially if he misses a lot of games again. Hill and Davis have been going well...not great, but well, but are way on the wrong side of 30. Unsure how Ram retiring impacts the cap...a lot of his contract had injury guarantees.....hard to interpret the Spotrac and OTC numbers in this case.
@@DaveCompton5150 They will cut him or trade him then.
@@DaveCompton5150 Taysom has been a stud. Our horrible OC hardly ever used him last year. That is about to change with the new OC.
9-8 last season and they fixed their biggest problem by changing the offensive coordinator. They addressed the pass rush and offensive line concerns. Salary cap issues don't exist. They have been dealing with that "issue" for twenty years and they've been one of the best teams through that span. Weird that you would critique the defense at all. It will always be good as long as Dennis Allen is there and it's full of good players. People say they should blow it up and rebuild, guess what, they are rebuilding. Just a few years after Brees and Payton left, they are already getting better and finding a new identity. Most "cap issues" are clearing up just in time to start over paying other players in the next couple of seasons. they already have a very good roster that is weak at a couple positions. Seems like they set themselves up pretty well. Falcons ain't winning squat.
EXACTLY YOU HAVE INCREDIBLE FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE THIS GUY DOSEN’T🤦♂️
found the delusional Saints fans😂😂😂😂 you guys have literally been nothing since Brees, your QB is Derek Carr and you are making no big changes to your team at all, you are in the same situation as the Steelers except worse because of your garbage head coach, be realistic
@@Kyle-bi7dfCarr started off rough but finished as one of the highest rated quarterbacks in the last 5 games. For the season, he was 10th in passer rating and touchdowns, and he was 6th in completion percentage. He was fringe top 10 last year if you're being objective. That was with the worst playcaller in the league, no run game, and a horrible offensive line. Now he has a competent OC, who specializes in optimizing the run game, and his scheme is supposed to help the line. They also drafted a stud in Fuaga, who should help that line even more. Carr also has a full season with those receivers under his belt, so their chemistry and timing should be better.
Does all that mean they will dominate this coming year? Of course not. There are still some issues, but Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore were injured last year, but should be healthy now. They also added Chase Young on a 1 year "prove it" deal. Kool-Aid McKinstry was a steal in the draft as well. I don't think it's as bleak or hopeless as some are projecting. 🤷🏿♂️
@@dl9232here here
Shaheed will be fantastic, AT Perry will be solid. Taysom Hill is still a stud.
AT Perry is top of my list for breakout candidates this year. He was an absolute steal for a 6th rounder. And Taysom will be fine. A lot of people ignore the fact that he started playing when he was like 27 so he still has a lot of gas left in the tank.
Well this hasn’t aged well. 90+ points in first two games. 😂⚜️😎
Lmao the jab at Josh Allen
Josh Allen went to Kentucky 😎
@@FootballAnalysis1um I’m assuming you’re trolling?
Unless it’s the jags Allen or if Wyoming Allen went to Kentucky before
@@FootballAnalysis1 No he did not he went to Wyoming
@@jamalmckinney6850there is more then one Josh Allen
I agree the Saints need to rebuild but I absolutely think Kubiak will do wonders for the run game. Carmichael didn’t know how to call run plays and the O line was so weak at it even when they were ran it was basically the running back against the whole D line. Kubiak has already been working on far more run plays in camp especially around the full back. I expect the run play numbers to go up. I don’t know how much but more
Overall great points, but slight pushback on the GM salary cap mechanics comment. They started this max salary short term view as Brees aged and Payton wanted to try for it all, instead of it being those two covering for it this whole time. One can say they should have stopped when he retired, but ownership has a lot of say in whether they want to accept that type of embarrassing play for a year or two
Unless you're over the age of 35 I feel like a lot of these young commentators write off athletes in their late 20s to early 30s. There is no concern. Those players are still in their prime and unless they sustained major injuries they will perform just as well or better than a 24 year old. It's like you forget these are top athletes not 33yo suburban dads.
33yo suburban dads have way less wear and tear on their bodies.
@@40EastTrill they also aren't training as their job and have the best professionals in sports medicine and nutrition to take care of them. Again unless they have a major injury these late 20s early 30s are playing at peak levels.
@@ItsMeHammie Again, there's STILL more wear and tear on their bodies. No matter what they do.
@@40EastTrill bodies recover. Especially when you have millions of dollars dedicated towards your health. What is your point anyway?
@@ItsMeHammie Not as fast when you GET OLDER. They don't have millions of dollars dedicated to their health either. Everyone is not LeBron James.
Can’t wait til they prove everyone wrong this year who dat 🔥 but yes they should’ve blown it up when Drew retired
All haters make these videos. They want the saints to blow it up and become the new Carolina Panthers
Facts
They will be
I assume you belive that the Saints won't suck this year, so if I may ask, what makes you excited for the upcoming year? What do you personally see the team's ceiling as?
@@zachstutzman4059 they have a top 10 defense they have weapons like taysom hill AK (i know they are getting older but you would be lying to say they dont have explosive and game changing potential) olave Shaheed new OC . Last year's OC WAS 30-32 worst in the league so its an improvement already
@@zachstutzman4059 10-7
People talking about the cap havent been following the saints the last couple years every year the cap is like -100 mil and people freak out, then they rework contracts and stuff and then theyre under. Kicking the can down the road works when the salary cap is ever increasing, as well as getting rid of some contracts and future contracts like with trey hendrickson. Micky Loomis has been the GM since 2002 i think he knows what hes doing
The dolphins were also terrible vs playoff teams, so were the cowboys. I’d argue their future is even more concerning because their QBs will get paid big
Difference is dolphins have a top 5 coach while the cowboys have top end talent. The saints have neither.
@@aintnoway8594 how is McDaniel a top 5 coach? They have a top 5 front office for sure, but they seem outcoached against every playoff team they face. Cowboys have top talent for now, but I’m not sure they’ll do after they pay dak, ceedee and micah
@@aintnoway8594how moany times the cowboys gonna make a playoff run with the talent they have and still cone up shott every time
Offensive scheme was so bad Taysom nearly ruined the td on the first clip cuz Pete put 2 receivers stacked making the pass even harder
Seems like ever since the Saints were robbed in that playoff game against the Rams, they haven’t been the same. They’ve had talent, but never a complete team. And Injuries didn’t help either.
Ain’t that the truth smh
This is great stuff! Hope to see videos on all the teams, appreciate the content
Thank you!
It's a middle of the pack roster, NOT a bottom five roster. Does this guy not even watch football? WOW
He literally said that
There is a lot I disagree with in this video. Mostly all of the national talk analysis which gets a lot wrong about this team. We have an upgraded team from last season. We lost the tie breaker to get into the playoffs. No reason to think the falcons which have been extremely mid for 10 years now will all of a sudden win the division because they upgraded their QB position with an aging QB that is coming off of a major injury. Don't count the Saints out of playoff talk even at a 9-8 record because that can win this division, look at the bucs last season. Go listen to some local analyst shows and you will get a very different feel to this team.
The Saints making the playoffs this season ⚜️💯
Hahahaha!
@@captaindeluxe7328 You in the wrong comment section. This the Saints not the Panthers bot. Your A.I. is malfunctioning.🤣
@@divineeternity7268 Fan since 1970. You?
@@captaindeluxe7328 Born a fan in Louisiana Baton Rouge ⚜️. Saints to the core.
@@divineeternity7268 Same here, but let's be real. Just because we love this team does not mean they're going to be contenders every year. 7-10
Really well done. I came here for a rundown to learn about my new team and you gave a great summary. Thumbs up.
Thank you so much!!
That secondary is not concerning at all, its top 3
Yall worried about the Saints Cap, yall need to be talking about any Team that's paying their QB more than/ just as much as Mahomes lol. They're paying them more money with more help but cant beat him at the highest stage. 🤦♂️😂
Plus those teams will be in salary cap he🏒🏒 when it doesn't work out. Look at the broncos for example
How are you worried about the saints secondary? Marshon, Paulson adebo, alontae Taylor, kool Aid, honey badger, Jordan howden, etc
This ain't 2020 anymore homie
@@teejayman215 obviously don’t know shit about us had a top 10 secondary last year😂the only one over 30 is tyran the only person who was on the team in 2020 was Marshon and the pieces next to him were worse shut yo casual ass up
@@teejayman215Yet almost all of our secondary is under 25.
@@thatboyred4042 which ones are the good players?
@@teejayman215 literally all of them
How is this roster the least inspiring in the NFL? The Panthers are literally next door in the same division. Are the Titans inspiring? The Giants? I dont see how they are in the same category.
The QB situation for the Panthers and Titans is more inspiring. Will Levis showed flashes and I think Bryce will have a big bounce back season. Giants are imo very similar to the Saints
Love the new video formats man
Thank you so much!
This video not about age well at all you might have to make an apology video. 😂😂😂😂
We haven’t even tried to rebuild since Drew left. Instead of mediocrity every year I’d rather just tank and draft a QB. So frustrating
The Saints for the first time in forever, they didn’t spend a ton of money in free agency. Their big free agency signing was a 1 year, 13 million dollar contract to Chase Young which was really a 1 year 3.5 million. They also drafted for needs, and for future needs for a change. Lattimore is likely out the door sometime in the next two years, Carr is a contract they can get out of in two years, Ramczyk is likely to retire, Cam Jordan will retire after this year, and Alvin Kamara is likely to get an incentive based contract. People overlook the fact this is now a competitive rebuild, which is exactly what the Vikings have been doing since 2019. I think their situation is completely overhated, and it’s not impossible to get out of.
Respectfully, max out the cap and never plan ahead is simply wrong. It took a pandemic to derail the Saints way of doing business. The bill never comes due as long as the cap continues to rise (which it does every year). As long as they can avoid another pandemic there is no difference between the way the Saints do business and any other team.
I just believe that the offense that Pete Carmichael had was not a good offense. I can see how klint Kubiack helps our offense. I feel like we could be a sneaky good team. We can probably win the division.
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The Saints are the most purgatory team in the NFL. They don't wanna rebuild no matter what so it's like why bother? Also remember when Saints fan thought for sure they would make the playoffs? 😂
Spot on analysis. The Saints feel the epitome of the 16th / 17fh best team in the NFL. 8 - 9, 9 - 8.
Worst case scenario is age catchs up to their core, they bottom out, dump Dennis Allen and are forced to rebuild.
Best case scenario, they stay healthy and lean on veteran leadership to comfortably win the NFC South, and make a surprsingly deep run in the post season in an unpredictable NFC.
Likleist scenario? Hover around 500, snag a wildcard spot or barely miss out.
I am leaning towards them making the post - season. Dennis Allen is imo, a great DC who shouldnt be an HC, but there is something to be said about continiuty.
@Kenny-sn4fg They not going nowhere
I was argue the Steelers are in a worse purgatory tbh
@@seraphim3599 lol why?
Bro idky y’all think this is madden or 2k rebuilding doesn’t just automatically make you a guaranteed good team in the future.
They are where the Vikings were a few years ago, except even worse. They need a reset.
Lmao man if I were a Vikings fan rn I’d cry they have atleast another 3 years to even think about the playoffs
The Vikings never transitioned from a HOF coach and Qb the Saints are in a transition from 20 years of sustained success they not gon just tear that down and start over they gon build on what they have and thats their philosphy wheather we agree or not
1 loosing season and 2 winning seasons ok bud this team has been siffering from the injury bugg since 2021
8:36 The rest of the video is right. Dont get the Lattimore criticism tho. When on the field he has the ceiling of a top 5 corner ITL. Year 8 yes, but he was a young rookie. As long as the injury bug doesnt hit. He is that guy.
In summary: Old men with a GM with both terrible money management and a fetish for Ohio State alumni
Love your content
Thank you Trevor!
I'm 100% sure Josh Allen is most notable player from university of wyoming.
I think if the saints are above .500 at Week 8, I think the saints will pull the plug on Dennis Allen. Pete is gone so that’s gotta count for something right…..RIGHT?
If Dennis Allen will let the offense flow and focus on D I think the Saints could surprise people our secondary is lights out , Linebackers are solid and I'm hoping the D Line rotation improves with young in the mix but this team is. D team I can be honest and say the O line is concerning
Saints will win the South this upcoming season. Book it!
The Future Isnt Doomed! We Still Have Multiple Drafts Coming And We Resetted Our Mane Issue, And That Was OC and the entire offensive staff we good, our qb had a solid year to say he had a terrible person calling plays for him and a bad oline carr will be okay! our defense is top in the league and cap aint nun fareal! we will be okayy! whodatt
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Ayy u got my sub I’m a falcons fan but I love the way how u talk about this weak ass team right here 🤣
If the saints are weak than the falcunts have SpongeBob arms lmaoo
You still mad we blew y’all trash ass out by 30*
Didn’t we embarrass y’all the last game of the season??? 🤣
Falcons haven’t done shit since 2017.
We ready to smack yall this year
New Orleans native and Saints fan for life and I been calling for the rebuild since 2021, it was clear as day the direction the team was heading in our first year post Drew Brees and Loomis/Benson seem to think Drew Is still here. Take the bad years build some draft stock, GET UNDER THAT CAP FORREAL not just kicking it down the road and live with the results. The Bills did it and have been in the playoffs the last 6 years straight.
The Saints dont rebuild. They reconstruct 😂
Im a huge Saints fan and would love to talk ball with you if you’re interested. U made some great points but some I think needs more attention
New Orleans needs to wipe the slate clean and start over from scratch. Fire Loomis, fire Allen, trade away star players for draft capital and clearing up cap space. They are in rebuild mode.
Pete Carmichael, that's all I have to say. He's gone now
Everyone who’s not a saints fan is steady CAPPIN on the saints. Y’all don’t know what we’ve got brewing up. Just watch. We gon surprise all of you 💪🏽
Idk how you could be a Saints fan. Atleast when my team sucks I have the future to look forward to. No idea what the plan is here
great vid FA
Thank you!
Lol did you seriously just reupload the same Saints video 😂
saints been concerning ever since brees retired and sean payton left ya'll haven't been relevant since
we had the same exact record as the packers last year and both teams missed the playoffs the year before 🤣🤣 y’all haven’t been a top team y’all selves
Yall just lucky jamies winston couldn't score 3 more points after being up 17-0 on yall or you wouldn't be talking lol
@@kevinmckay2483exactly and if we win 1 more game no one is whining about our future being in jeopardy, if people weren’t casuals and actually looked at our roster we got pieces for the future everywhere, this guy football analysis is a known saints hater to
@@LZ21- Yelp, ONE game, ONE field goal, everyone narrative changes
@@TooCoolToCare32 literally if groupe hits the field goal vs the packers we would have been in the playoffs and they would have been out lol.
Idc though I let people think they know what their talking about
Bro you hurt my feelings so much with your Saints content. 😢 because it’s all true 😭😭😭😭
My Saints will be mediocre as long as Dennis Allen is the head coach. I don't know why he wasn't fired other than ownership seems to like him. I expect the Saints to be just below average again this year. As a fan, I'm hoping they tank the season so Allen will have to be fired. It may be time for Loomis to move on as well. He's been with the team since 2000.
That doesn't make any sense. Allen has 2 fewer wins than Payton did in his first 2 seasons with the Saints, and Payton had a FAR better roster. The only thing Allen has that was better than that 2006 team is the defense. Well, he's the REASON the defense is better. He made a smart decision in firing Carmichael and the rest of the offensive staff. Then, he made a great decision bringing in Kubiak to fix the scheme and the offense. I was a DA hater at 1st, but if you can't see that they're actually making solid moves, I don't know what to tell you. Most solid teams are built this way. A head coach who is either a defensive or offensive specialist that hires the opposite as a coordinator. Reid has Spagnuolo, Payton had Williams and Allen, Bowles had Canales, Dan Campbell has Ben Johnson. Hopefully, Kubiak works out, because DA has that defense cookin'. 🤷🏿♂️👍🏿⚜️
They also lost Michael Thomas…
that's actually a positive for us lol
Its obvious that you dont even know what is happening with the saints, you mention kendre having a bad year as if he was healthy to begin with lol.
You claim theyre not doubling in penning and he was only moved to the other side of the line, you didnt mention tysom hill and you claim that they wont go from 3.6ypc to 5ypc as if improving to 4-4.3 wouldnt be a massive improvement.
Nobody wanted winston to get in, the times he did he lost all the games, including a 17-0 lead in the 3rd quarter, he was so bad thst carr was forced to play Injuried against the bucs
the 1st time , if carr didnt get Injuried they wouldve been in the playoffs and all of a sudden you would be Claiming thst that hace stars all around the defense because its obvious that you dont know what is going on and only repeat the same recycled commentary from the media
Thank you Eduardo! Please tell me how far they’re going this year!
@@FootballAnalysis1 lol
Our offense was our issue with Pete he never should of got the play calling job after SP left. If everyone can stay healthy kubiak will unlock the offense and Carr can be a good game manager for us and get us into the playoffs again. He showed improvement down the stretch last season and just needs a guy like kubiak. Also in regards to our future we’ve got plenty of building blocks, Olave, Shaheed, A.T, Bub Means, Fuaga, Kendre Miller, Kool Aid, Adebo, Tae Taylor, Howden breakout candidate at safety, granderson is the most underrated edge in the league and will be another age less guy like demario where he’ll age like fine wine, who knows what we got in foskey, turner I’m happy to say is a bust mainly due to his injuries, Bresee, Khristian Boyd could become a steal to, Ford at lb will be another steal to. Get your heads out of your bootys and stop being sheep if you break our team down we are a lot better off than most teams are.
This is a bullshit take. That team lost one game by ten or more. The idiots that talk about tearing down a team for the crap shoot of a qb.
The saints are not bad truly in every game. The offensive coaching change is gonna make huge differences in this team. You guys with the doom and gloom bullshit. They are in a better place than lots of teams.
I'm a falcons fan and I don't see us winning the division. I see us starting out 4-0 maybe 5-0 against some good teams and getting a lot of hype but then losing 4 of the next 5 and being 6-4 or 5-5 losing against bad teams and losing key players to injury they then lose 4 or 5 of the last 7 to go 8-9 or 7-10 to finish 2nd to whoever it may be NO or TB who win the division by a game or win via a tie breaker better division record of 4-2 to ATL's 3-3 cause we couldn't beat any of them twice
Update?
Saints are going to be Selecting Arch Manning in the 2026 Draft with the 1st overall pick. Start the Process!!!
The saints wont be terrible enough to draft the number one player
babe wake up FootballAnalysis1 posted
Carl Granderson is the best known player out of Wyoming?
You forgot about Josh Allen?
As a Saints fan... I don't know what we're doing, either. We should've blown it up last year. The fact that we didn't is an insult to us fans.
And I thought my giants were in the mud, the saints seem to be in limbo. The ultimate purgatory team.
@@danirey425giants will never be the saints saints are on the border of being a playoff team 9-8 giants are on the border of the first overall pick in next year's draft, atleast be objective lol
@@danirey425lol nah my guy the giants are definitely in the mud saints have a far better situation roster wise with young players and all. It’s just the cap that’s killing us
So you should have been known as long as ML is the GM, the Saints don't rebuild, the reconstruct
can’t wait with saints win the division i’ll be back
Josh Allen played for Wyoming…
Sorry, who is the most famous person to play for Wyoming in the NFL?
Josh Allen
If their division wasn’t so bad they would’ve blown it up a couple years ago. It’s hilarious that the Saints terrible rivals are keeping them mediocre.
If derek carr can have a 25 td season with a bad oline imagine what he can do with an improved oline?🤔
26 tds. That's his ceiling
@@doom2547😂.
@@doom2547 😑
@@blessedbetit665 🤓
Yeah i think NO will struggle, Atl got better, TB is still a good team, just Car struggle too, so winning their division will be hard, depends if they can remain healthy
Idk what the future holds for my Saints. I’m curious mostly. Don’t really Believe in Allen long term.
Tryann left for Saints yeah nothing big happened when you left. Team really fell apart when he left Willie Gay said sure I will my chances and join him.
You said saints beat teams like falcons but you still have them over the saints i guarantee it lol
Damn bro just keeps getting tanner and tanner
do a video on tampa 🙏
Soon
I couldn’t disagree more!
Trevor Penning going to get Carr wrecked again lol.
So, sites like these cater to haters, not lifelong SAINTS fans. Prediction: SAINTS SWEEP DIVISION!
Josh Allen went to Wyoming. Your voice without facial expressions is not one to use for sarcasm, unless you’re intentionally being a troll
You play to win the game!
Saints will beat panthers and cowboys, lose to eagles beat the falcons and lose to chiefs.
3-2 start you heard it hear first
Taints suck. This is the Bucs' division
Another year of running Kamara and Taysom Hill to the ground.
I pray to god you aren’t a Vikings fan because they won’t even be half as good as the saints
Spot on 🎯😩
not really
I havent seen the video yet, but as a Saints fan, theres one word the saints need to do, REBUILD. At best, we are a 1st round exit, and at worst, a 7-10. To bad to be good, and to good to be bad.
That might be true… I don’t see 7 as our floor maybe 8 but we damn sure aren’t winning a Super Bowl unless carr pulls magic out his ass
NOLA itself, is in serious danger.
Eh?
@@dannyquilter8366 The city is depressing. It is at climate risk--more than any other US city.
@stevenwilgus5422 don't buy real estate in NOLA!
8 wins in 2024 is the optimistic projection. I barely see 7 wins form their schedule.
They’ll win 8 minimum and 10-12 maximum. Great defense and I expect the offense to take a small leap.
Sadly, i think they are going to have a bad year but get a qb in the next draft and turn it around
If by mid-season they haven't got shit figured, they're better off tanking for drsft position
I doubt they will get a QB
hopefully we’ll have a firing and benching by week 8 so well can finally start making progress
@@PoisedHD they finished with a top 10 defense AND offense last year. That's not progress??? The offense started off rough, but finished as one of the top-rated in the league, but that's not progress? That had the worst OC in the league, fired him, and got a new OC from the Super Bowl runner-up, but that's not progress? Sure, they still have some issues, but there's still a LOT of talent that would be wasted in your scenario. 🤷🏿♂️⚜️
At least you are bitching about being mediocre -- you got your Superbowl title to show for it, which is more than a lot of teams including my Bengals. Be grateful.
Professional Can Kickers
Who are the maxing the cap on? Chase young is traaassshh!
I love my saints, but we really need to rebuild and draft our franchise QB. Our GM is ok with being mid by signing seeker Carr. We have to many delusional fans thinking this year is going to be different. Really hope the saints get punched in the mouth and brought back to reality. The Brees/ Payton era is over and we need to move on.
*Derek
Please keep Carr, the NFC South Is totally fine with it🤣
He should go and take his free security services from Wifi Willie (the busiest Derek Carr defender online 😂)
@@ADUSNhell no, he’s mid AF 💀
You aren’t a real fan my guy 💯 don’t claim the team when we make the playoffs