Using a Timing Light on my Volvo 240 made a BIG Improvement!

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  • Опубликовано: 20 май 2023
  • Using a Timing Light on a Volvo 240 with a B230F Redblock and LH2.2 Ignition system. I set it to the correct 12 degrees before top dead centre (BTDC) after finding it was several degrees off, which was the cause of some hesitation, loss of power and could have been the reason it failed the emissions test...
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  • @emootikoah8156
    @emootikoah8156 Год назад +24

    Love the fallout 3 bit at the beginning lmao, great game!

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +5

      I keep trying to get Miss Involvo'd to play it, as she is partial to the odd video game or 2, I told her it's so good, I'm still doing stuff like this 15 years later after playing it 😂

    • @dreamsun69
      @dreamsun69 Год назад

      SAME SAME, had no idea he was THAT cultured 😩😩😩😩

  • @poppasmurf
    @poppasmurf Год назад +14

    I'm not surprised the car's running better. 5 degrees out is a hell of a lot. Glad it's sorted, now for the piston slap.

  • @RobReynolds
    @RobReynolds Год назад +13

    I knew how it worked in principle, but watching you and with the arrows was super helpful. Appreciate the effort you've taken

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад

      Thanks, glad it was helpful!

  • @mikejohansson6711
    @mikejohansson6711 Год назад +1

    When I lived in the UK, I was always told to leave a 6 pak of beer in the back seat to pass your MOT.....

  • @Schwedenstahl245
    @Schwedenstahl245 Год назад +5

    I paint the timing mark on the crank pulley and then I also use a paint pen for the ticks on the lower timing cover. Makes everything very visible with just the strobe from the timing light.

  • @Artynos_YT
    @Artynos_YT Год назад +2

    Finally! A decent video on timing these suckers.

  • @grantstone5548
    @grantstone5548 Год назад +2

    What s delightful turn of phrase you have discribing how rough it runs😂

  • @GentilsGarage
    @GentilsGarage Год назад +3

    Nice work and nice gun! Mine is rubbish and produces a faint light.
    Hope all is well with Mrs Involvo’d…
    Not too long now!

  • @CaptainInsano-go6vo
    @CaptainInsano-go6vo Год назад +5

    Is that one of those brand new old Volvo's you showed us from that showroom collection??

  • @KeithintheWoods
    @KeithintheWoods Год назад +2

    The VATs intro got me good 😂

  • @stevenginnever5343
    @stevenginnever5343 Год назад +7

    Yet another informative and helpful video, great. On another note, really nice to see Ms involvo'd looking radiant with the prospect of Motherhood. Best of luck with it all, you deserve it. You thought the car insection was difficult, wait until you meet maternity. All the best. Steve.

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад

      Haha, cheers Steve! 👍

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis Год назад +5

    Great job! This might also be what Furious Driving needs to do to his 740!

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +4

      Maybe I should buy it when he eventually lists it for sale and do it 😄

  • @finn2586
    @finn2586 Месяц назад +1

    nice, just bought a Timing Light and used this as a "how to", man so sad that you stoped making Videos, i really miss it :(

  • @Elvis35-77
    @Elvis35-77 Год назад +3

    Aww, Bump Involvo'd is coming on now! Soon be the star of the show! Love to you 3! TCV, Marty D😁😁😁

  • @lifelong5425
    @lifelong5425 Год назад +4

    Good man, you know what they say...."timing is everything"..and once the bits are in, she'll pass....Take care you 2 plus

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      Finger crossed 🤞 (or thumbs pressed as they say here) cheers!

  • @mikefoley360
    @mikefoley360 Год назад +5

    Hope things are good and Mrs Involvo'd is well :)

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +3

      Thanks, yeah she's doing great!

  • @marcinbujok7388
    @marcinbujok7388 Год назад +4

    Nice! That's a usefull tool to have around. Good job!

  • @SevenFortyMotorsports
    @SevenFortyMotorsports Год назад +3

    Shoulda set er at 13 or 14! Lil extra pep!

  • @herrjonna2007
    @herrjonna2007 Год назад +7

    I love that you have kept pumping out videos lately! It makes my day every time!

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the support! 😀

  • @sharonshields1482
    @sharonshields1482 Год назад +9

    Thank you for sharing your work. I am glad you're feeling better and it's good to see Ms. Involvo again. I really enjoy your videos.

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      Thanks, I appreciate you watching! 🙂

  • @realvolvofreak
    @realvolvofreak Год назад +3

    Nice video. And good findings. :) I remember on my first car the hesitation on stepping on gas was due to worn out spark plugs. But that one had fixed distributor.

  • @stefanobio7045
    @stefanobio7045 Год назад +5

    Hi Sledge,
    Another good video so thank you for posting.
    When setting the dynamic timing with a strobe light you also need to adjust the rpm to a specific value, for Instance 12 degrees btdc at 750 rpm, sometimes the timing is set at the engine idle speed.
    You also need to know if the vacume advance pipe to the distributor should be connected or disconnected whilst setting the dynamic timing, this information can usually be obtained in the workshop manual, Google or via Autodata.
    Best regards to you both
    Stefano

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +2

      Thanks for the info, that's a good point! These didn't have a vacuum advance but the earlier ones did. I remember using Autodata years ago, such a good database!

    • @stefanobio7045
      @stefanobio7045 Год назад +2

      @@Involvod Hi Sledge....
      You're very welcome it's good to share experience and knowledge, I enjoy watching your videos.
      Best regards to you and your good lady.
      Best regards
      Stefano

  • @fannycraddock99
    @fannycraddock99 Год назад +5

    What an amazing piece of kit Sledge. Even I could appreciate that. Nice to see your glamourous assistant looking well and happy. Have a great week.

  • @honestaquarian
    @honestaquarian 7 месяцев назад +2

    The Brit Expat has more power now!!!
    I kinda surprised myself a couple of months ago when I was racing a Dodge and Cadillac and I hit 100mph in my 93 240 sedan (saloon)I honestly didn’t think the bloody thing could go that fast!!😮

    • @obeseperson
      @obeseperson 2 месяца назад

      It’ll do like 105 maybe 110, 92 sedan

  • @MrSkoda105s
    @MrSkoda105s Год назад +4

    Super! Nice tool! 👌🏻

  • @chrisbury4635
    @chrisbury4635 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dicing with death there asking the Mrs touch high voltage ignition parts when up the duff, can get one hell of a crack off any stray voltage there mate !

  • @bettyvolvo
    @bettyvolvo Год назад +2

    Hey Kolja 😃
    Volvo Meeting Elbe standing next to your black 245 ✌️

    • @PV_240
      @PV_240 Год назад +3

      Hallo,
      wie geht’s der Lichtmaschine?
      Bis demnächst.

    • @bettyvolvo
      @bettyvolvo Год назад +1

      @@PV_240 wieder sehr gut 😉 eine ganz neue brachte die entscheidende Wende.

  • @MS940
    @MS940 Год назад +13

    In many B230F with LH 2.4 and EZ116K you can't change timing like that. The distributor isn't even movable in 940. Timing is adjusted by computer based on different constantly monitored variables/inputs and timed with crank position sensor. No doubt this is valid with LH 2.2 though.

    • @martinmoran89
      @martinmoran89 Год назад +1

      You can take out the rubber key on the distributor and rotate it but it makes no difference as the computer corrects it all in 2.4
      It really confused me at first too haha

    • @Stale_Mahoney
      @Stale_Mahoney Год назад +2

      you can move the timing to 3deg advance on lh2.4 volvos.
      the contact going to the flywheel reader, if you cut of the directional plastic casting and turn the contact 180 degrees, you trick the brain to ignite another 3 deg earlier as it will ignite going into the timing hole instead of going out of the timing hole, by reversing the poles on the sensor.
      the ecu will read it as the engine is on time but in reality it will inject and spark 3 deg earlier than stock, for a little power improvement, did it on mine on a dyno and it went from 96 hub hp to 100 then tweaked the cam timing and got another 6hp, (ran the H cam at 2 deg advance)

  • @finn2586
    @finn2586 Год назад +1

    You're Cutting skills are getting better and better. Not only the intro
    Really nice and enjoyable

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад

      Thanks, appreciate the feedback 😀

  • @togst
    @togst Год назад +4

    Very handy tool to have for sure! I also found that just a few degrees can make a big difference. Always nice when a noticable improvement can be a simple tweak. Loved the intro as well, made my day!
    I have a stroboscope from the 80s. No fancy screen or multiple buttons, but it does the job. When I first used it on my Amazon, I couldn't find the marks. People kept telling me it should be located on the front pulley. Reading the service manual, I found that they're actually located on the flywheel of the car! There's an opening in the bellhousing you point the light through. The next problem I had was that because the car is 6 volt, it would barely flash. Had to hook it up to an external 12 volt battery.

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 Год назад +2

      Yes, many cars used to have that: Old Peugeots 404, 504, bmw 02, 3series

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +4

      Glad you enjoyed it! And just when you think it should be easier to do stuff on older cars 😂

  • @alexpym8216
    @alexpym8216 Год назад +5

    would the offset be different for a carburetted volvo 240?

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +2

      I saw it was anything from 10 up to 15 degrees btdc depending on the engine so it would be worth checking your engine code 👍

  • @SuperFIFTHGEAR
    @SuperFIFTHGEAR Год назад +3

    Could it be worth putting in some of the fuel additive to reduce emissions and/or giving it a good spirited run before the MOT test so it's nice and hot? I assume thermostat is working so car is not running too rich as well. Usually new spark plugs helps too.

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      Could definitely be a good idea, the emission should be better now after this adjustment, but I think last time they didn't warm it up fully, as we take it there early in the day and they get to it at some point not straight away

  • @mikestinyshedofdreams
    @mikestinyshedofdreams Год назад +3

    nice one. Re the tyres on the test, perhaps it might be worth geting some new wheels and tyres and keeping them for test time, afterwards stick your part worns back on.

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      It's quite convenient that the 740 actually needs tyres so I feel a temporary switch around coming on 😄

    • @englishgrandad3298
      @englishgrandad3298 Год назад

      @@Involvod shhhh maybe spies in the camp.

  • @Bassalicious
    @Bassalicious Год назад +6

    My LH2.4 redblock has unbelievably good throttle response but sometimes has hick-ups at very low rpm and a slightly rough idle. I wonder if I made a mistake when I checked the timing. Slightly too advanced ignition timing would explain those symptoms..
    Good stuff Sledge! Super happy to be beneath the bonnet again :)
    Edit: 4:01 yup mine does the exact same shaking thing without missing a beat. I'll double check the timing, I've got a feeling it's too advanced.

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +3

      Low rpm hick-ups are the worst! I get so stressed thinking it's going to break down. The rough idle seems to be a redblock feature 🤣

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 Год назад +2

      LH2.4 system is different.
      The timing is done by EZK and it keeps on advancing it until it receives ping feedback from the knock sensor. Then it delays timing in increments of 3 degr. after which it again tries to advance timing. Rinse and repeat. It's a classic feedback loop system.
      The distributor just needs to be set in the right mechanical ballpark. Inside that dizzy there is no centrifugaal advance nor vacume advance. It's all done by the EZK module.
      The only servic8ng you need to fo is decent plugs with the rigt gaps set, good wires, good cap and good rotor. If these are in good condition the ignition should be perfect all the time.

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious Год назад +1

      @@jfv65 I have read of a procedure to set the base timing though, I'm wondering if the EZK may be running out of adjustment freedom or if the previous owner maybe grounded pins 18,19,21 or 25 of the EZK. But you are right *ideally* everything should be fine.
      As Sledge said though, running a bit rough might just be a feature of our beloved tractors :D
      If only the occasional hiccup / difficulty starting would be replicable. It's such a nightmare to troubleshoot because it's always fine again when I try to check anything.

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious Год назад +4

      @@Involvod Once or twice it even quit on me when I was trying to get going. One quick tap to the fuel pump relay and it's usually fine again. No idea if it's actually at fault or a placebo in those situations, sometimes it still needs a few throttle blips to find its groove again.
      It can definitely be scary but I've never been left stranded, only a very temporary road block :D

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +3

      @@Bassalicious it is rare for them to really leave you stranded, has never happened to me, just a few temporary roadblocks as you say 😂 Oh and when I had to clean the distributor cap after the car wash 🥴 Do you have spare fuel injector relays? I made a jumper wire from the 87/2 to 30 pins, cheaper than a relay and a great way to determine if that is the fault / if the pumps still run!

  • @DeanofMachines
    @DeanofMachines Год назад +4

    It’s nice when its a simple fix isn’t it?

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +3

      Yeah man! Doesn't happen nearly often enough 😂

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious Год назад +2

      @@Involvod at least with redblocks it **can** still happen as opposed to modern cars anyway ;)

  • @TheDodsquad
    @TheDodsquad Год назад +3

    Unrelated to the video but I've been wondering if there's anyway to make a 1988 240 ulez compliant i live on the outskirts of london and would hate to give up driving mine come late August any ideas would be much appreciated mr involvod

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +2

      Ah sorry to hear that, I'm always worried about that too. I'm really not sure what you can do, here they have a cold start system that you can fit to bring it to 'Euro 2' compliance, I don't know if it applies there. Are cars there over 40 years old allowed in those zones?

    • @TheDodsquad
      @TheDodsquad Год назад +1

      @Involvod they have to meet euro 4 standards to be ulez compliant unfortunately and yeah once it hits 40 years its clear of ulez and road tax would take another 5 years for me. I've heard the only way is to change the exhaust or the engine I'll have to do some more digging

  • @cleiton1984
    @cleiton1984 Год назад +2

    Sincronizar as correias é difícil, parabéns pelo trabalho 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +3

      Thanks 👍

    • @cleiton1984
      @cleiton1984 Год назад +2

      @@Involvod abraços do Brasil 🇧🇷

  • @davidmackenzie5971
    @davidmackenzie5971 Год назад +1

    Just wondering if you saw the Volvo on you tube with 15,000 miles on the clock and it was a sedan 2.3 Turbo, absolutely as new had only one owner. The guy in the States always finds nice cars as he is a car dealer with a you tube suite, I will see if I can find the name for you. Find it Euroasian Bob, please check it out. 🙏

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад

      Oh I'll check it out, I remember "Urination Bob" from Hoovies Garage 😄

  • @johanvandermeulen1665
    @johanvandermeulen1665 Год назад +2

    I am will save some money so i can buy a 240 next year. Preferably a glt/gle saloon

  • @mortimergladbreath
    @mortimergladbreath Год назад +4

    Nice! I think, the timing on my 92 LH2.4 is computer controlled and not adjustable. Anyone? At any rate, I am ashamed to admit it is still in pieces in my garage since my head gasket failure in November. Spring came and with it a host of work outside. Maybe June is the time...

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +3

      Yeah you're right, sorry to hear it's still out of action, that's why I'm hesitant to start any big repair jobs at the moment, I can imagine the car might stay on axle stands for a lot longer than anticipated 😅

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious Год назад +4

      you still have to set the "neutral" point so the computer can properly set the timing and doesn't run out of range. There's a procedure to do that but I can't remember exactly. There's also some connections you can make at the ignition computer to advance or retard the target ignition timing.
      Edit: Google "Advance/retard timing on EZ116K" and check out the tubobricks forum result if you want to modify the timing on your LH2.4

  • @taz7264
    @taz7264 Год назад +1

    Haha.. you have been using the ol time alive technology I see.. glad that you got things a bit better! Anyways, I'm kinda new to your channel, you seem to get around a but.. are you on the official UK owners forums? Also, are you UK based or did you have more sense? Lol hope you get what I mean

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад

      I'm not actually on any of the forums I'm not so keen on forums to be honest! As crazy as it might sound I actually wanted to stay in the UK but due to visa difficulties for the other half we had to go back to Germany, now we're in the countryside in Bavaria and it is very nice! Thanks for tuning in! 😀

  • @bodgymechanic9948
    @bodgymechanic9948 Год назад +4

    Have you considered upgrading the distributer to an electronic type? I wonder if this would help improve the chances of passing an emmissions test.

  • @tommcl8548
    @tommcl8548 Год назад +1

    👍

  • @mikaelflodstrom6370
    @mikaelflodstrom6370 Год назад +2

    👍🏻

  • @zloychechen5150
    @zloychechen5150 Год назад +1

    Did i get it right that the 2 with LH Jet still has adjustable ignition?
    I've never had a 2 or anything with a distributor on the block.

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      Yeah just the LH2.2, the later LH2.4 the dizzy is there but not adjustable

  • @englishgrandad3298
    @englishgrandad3298 Год назад +2

    😁 I remember Sid used to speak like the aliens every time i phoned him.

  • @konsum949
    @konsum949 Год назад +3

    Pefect, letting your pregnant wife turn the distributor. i cant even remember how many massive jolts ive had trough the years touching old distributors and leads while the engine was running, they have to be hardened from early age...

  • @bigboybmx69
    @bigboybmx69 Год назад +1

    Can you lend me some jet, my VATS kinda low

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      Good memories 😁

  • @JH-lo9ut
    @JH-lo9ut 19 дней назад

    6:57
    It's a bad idea to wear a loose scarf or a hoodie with draw strings while bending down over a running engine, or any machine with moving parts really.

  • @winandd8649
    @winandd8649 Год назад

    So he car failed TUV. How does that work in Germany? I see you driving the car.
    In NL when your car fails, you're only allowed to drive straight home, and from there to the nearest garage for a next TUV (APK in NL) test.
    So a garage which also does APK tests can ask what they want for a needed repair, because you can't go anywhere else if you can't do the repair yourself at home.
    And no, if your car had still a few weeks APK according to your last years APK report, you can NOT drive the car another two weeks. The end date of the last years report is expired because your car failed the test TODAY.. This really s*cks in the NL

  • @dbt2787
    @dbt2787 Год назад +2

    “Failed the emissions test” …is that a special TUV code for “you drive a Volvo”🥲

    • @Involvod
      @Involvod  Год назад +1

      Haha, it's funny they normally always pass with flying colours here, this is the first time I've had problems!

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious Год назад +1

      @@Involvod I'm convinced the cat didn't heat up enough. it's half the cars length away from the engine so even idling isn't enough to heat it up properly.

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 Год назад

      ​@@Bassaliciousthe rich fueling on cold start up also helpt to heat up the cat. And now with correct ignition timing it will also start to workbearlier and better.

    • @Bassalicious
      @Bassalicious Год назад

      @@jfv65 that's true. my TÜV engineer told me that in his experience they may fail if not revved up for a bit before taking the measurement. I trust his expertise on that tbh