This was a really good show, I don't know why they cancelled it so soon, the story telling, the music, the acting, even the VFX was excellent, especially season 3, season 3 was a masterpiece.
Suspend your disbelief. In Valkyrie it was portrayed very well, where Tom Cruise was speaking german, and than you can hear english overlay on top and german fades out and english remains. Implying that he is speaking german, but its being translated.
Seems kind of dramatic to program your counter missile system to loop them around until the intercept is right off the bow. Also pretty sure the ship would've be peppered by high velocity shrapnel
first thought they would defend another ship that had lost its self-defense capability, turns out it's just bad writing. Tom Clancy would not have stood for that
They litterally could've intercepted with a Sm 3 or Sm 6 from hundreds of kilometers away, but I guess they have to engage with their close range missiles. Not even an ESSM.
“Vampire, vampire, vampire “ and the background’s soundtrack while the missile is shown shown mid-air locked on his target with it’s thruster’s combustion, gives me goosebumps. What a scene! 🎬
Season 3, when that Russian guy commanded The Fearless go out and attack the American ship and proceeded to fire the first missile, I was like "F * DUDE!, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE JUST STARTED!?!?!"
There were so many unrealistic things. First off, no ship with VLS can run out of "active ammo" and have to reload, the point of VLS is to be able to fire all at a time, neither would the russians fire only one missile, even if the logic was correct, it wouldnt give any advantage to wait before firing the rest. Secondly, the russian missile is a Zircon hypersonic AShM, which at the mid-terminal flight phase is extremely difficult to take out with CIWS and RAM due to its speed and ability to maneuver. Thus the Roosvelt should have engaged it with its VLS SM-2s which would saturate it with numbers in the mid range, while it is still accelerating. Waiting for a missile that is at its strongest up close to get close to you is just stupid
yeah this was done by somebody who's only knowledge was reading the weapon systems names on Wikipedia. the only possible thing i can think of for justifying a "reload" for a active VLS system is maybe someone misunderstanding how stacked VLS cells work, but either way the writers did a horrible job with these scene which is a real shame, wish someone did their job for a second and opened a book or did a few hours worth of reading online.
Hypersonic cruise missiles ability to maneuver at high speeds is greatly exaggerated and wouldn’t stop accurate counter fire from a destroyer. Not to mention the AEGIS system can engage targets moving at more than twice the speed allegedly achieved by the zircon.
@@alexalbrecht5768 You mean ABMD - AEGIS Ballistic Missile Defense. BMD capability is only available for a minority of AEGIS-equiped ships. The SM-3 is designed to intercept ballistic missiles on an atmospheric trajectory midcourse and the SM-6 is supposed to intercept ballistic missiles in their terminal phase. However, sometimes standard missiles fail to intercept targets in their relatively limited number of live-fire tests and intercepting hypersonic missiles is more complex than intercepting ballistic missiles.
@@czechchineseamerican a majority of aegis vessels are equipped with AEGIS BMD and more are gaining that capability every year. The SM-3 and SM-6 have a very successful test record against a diverse array of targets.
They were launched to starboard, curved behind the ship to portside, flew for seven seconds only to then return from the DDG's port quater to intercept the AShM coming in from starboard. Yeah, absolutly not.
There is a bit false weaponry showed in this video: Standard Missile is an anti air weapon not an ASW. SeaRAM isnt used by an arleigh burke, it is the RIM-116 RAM. The rocket flight path is not right and Arleigh Burke destroyer doesn't only have two anti air missiles, so the russians captain sentence doesn't make much sense. Neverthereless I enjoyed this series 😄.
Is that a Gorshkov-class frigate or am I having a stroke here given that this looks like a Russian guided-missile destroyer that looks nothing like a Russian Sovremenny?
only countermissles? I wouldve thought the entire ship could hide inside a massive chaf-smoke while fireing gatling guns at the incoming missle as extra insurance but idk
The CIWS cannon is meant to be a last line of defense; most American warship's primary defenses are electronic countermeasures or NATO Sea Sparrow missiles like the ones you see here. This is actually a fairly realistic depiction of what a modern naval battle would look like.
@@ManiaMac1613 Pretty sure the intercept in this video is well within the last line of defense. They were bracing for impact. CWIS would've also engaged way before this. It's not like they would rather risk the impact then waste the CWIS just because they launched a missile.
@@Klemheist hahaha right? There is so much wrong with this scene. Russia needing 2 keys to launch anti ship missiles like they are launching nukes, and launching from what looks like the bridge of the ship that does not have weapon stations. And then the US ship launching 2 missiles from the wrong launched since the arley burke should launch from VLS cells and how those missiles intercept 50 meters in front of the ship :))). The CIWS would have obliterated that missile by then :)) And so much more, this scene is just for dramatic effect but those that know better cringe so hard :))
@@UncleMisu Season 3 is not the best season. There is a lot of plot holes and inaccuracies, like this "battle". Why would countermeasure missiles go in the opposite direction then return to take out the target mere seconds before impact? Who is this scene made for? People who liked The Last Ship?
because if the enemy is preparing to attack you would absolutly leave your station, walk calmly through the CIC to find the watch officer and then return the same way....
My only beef with this show is they expect the audience to believe that the American ship can only defend against one missile and would be helpless to defened against a second. I get why they did it, a 40 missile barrage would take some time and would be far harder to believe it was the act of a rogue captain and not a true act of war.
Whoever did this knows nothing whatsoever about naval anti air warefare, no softkill, no high-speed maneuvering, and if i saw this correctly the defensive missiles went the wrong way. Why?
I wouldn’t be wasting time asking for permission to fire way I see it if an enemy opens up on me without provocation or justification I’m gonna defend myself simple as
‘Depending on how you look at message in capital letters ‘ ‘REAL’ “real” ‘FAKE’ “fake”- do new batch of communication officer have to learn these or now you use ai with color coded message instead
what nonsense... the idea and the script and the filming are ridiculous... trying to destroy an enemy ship, it is necessary to fire at least two anti-ship missiles... since the estimated target defeat for the anti-ship missiles is 0.8-0.9. And then a crazy captain wants to start a war (!) and fires 1 missile - this can be passed off as an UNNORMAL triggering of the “friend or foe” auto-response if the diplomats want... The presence of strangers on the bridge and the chatter between the lieutenant and the colonel are simply unrealistic... Disgusting, unrealistic movie... какая ерунда... и идея и сценарий и сьемки... пытаясь уничтожить судно противника - необходимо выпускать не менее двух противокорабельных ракет... поскольку расчетное поражение цели у ПКР 0.8-0.9 а тут сумасшедший капитан хочет начать войну (!) и выпускает 1 ракету - да это можно выдать за НЕШТАТНОЕ срабатывание автоответа "свой-чужой", если дипломаты постараются опять же присутствие на мостике посторонних и болтовня лейтенанта с полковником - просто нереальны
Wow Jim really got into some shenanigans at the office this week, can't wait to find out how he ended up on a destroyer
I can't wait to see the look on Dwight's face when Jim pulls off this prank
@@bobafarts9949 Kevin: *panicking* I can't swim, you guys.
@@shardj5151 Creed, dressed in full scuba gear: "HELL YEAH, BABY, THIS HAS ALL BEEN WORTH IT!"
Even funnier considered, the Jack Ryan character is supposed to be a rather boring analyst turned action hero against his will…
"first rocket is to take out their defenses, the second will kill them" i'm pretty sure modern warships can launch more than 2 counter missiles?
Russian cant.
The video shows them using SeaRAM to defend the ship. SeaRAM contains 11 missiles, so they should have 9 left for the second attack.
@@marklevdahl6985 I'd say 9 is plenty for 1 missile, and they should also have their Cwis left
Could be some kind of EM wave or disrupt system against targeting radar
@@EthanZoid i mean they're Russian, i would doubt it
This was a really good show, I don't know why they cancelled it so soon, the story telling, the music, the acting, even the VFX was excellent, especially season 3, season 3 was a masterpiece.
Indeed
"Battle Stations, Battle Stations"
The Russians, wondering what the Bridge Officer is saying in English: 🤔
I believe the correct term would be "Ekipazh v Boyu" !
Suspend your disbelief. In Valkyrie it was portrayed very well, where Tom Cruise was speaking german, and than you can hear english overlay on top and german fades out and english remains. Implying that he is speaking german, but its being translated.
Uh.... an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer can intercept more than just one anti ship missile.
VFX team must charge by the missile
nah, russian navy can't afford more
Nah, they cut the CGI to save their budget 🤣
Sure can. Just ask the Houthis.
Seems kind of dramatic to program your counter missile system to loop them around until the intercept is right off the bow. Also pretty sure the ship would've be peppered by high velocity shrapnel
its for theatrics those missiles wouldve been intercepted miles away from the ship
What? Drama, in a TV show? Madness!
Yeah, season 3 was not the best
first thought they would defend another ship that had lost its self-defense capability, turns out it's just bad writing. Tom Clancy would not have stood for that
They litterally could've intercepted with a Sm 3 or Sm 6 from hundreds of kilometers away, but I guess they have to engage with their close range missiles. Not even an ESSM.
i always loved the character jack ryan...but this 4 seasons were brilliant.
As a reviewer the many of the Tom Clancy books that I have read this takes you from part straight through all parts like you were actually there .
“Vampire, vampire, vampire “ and the background’s soundtrack while the missile is shown shown mid-air locked on his target with it’s thruster’s combustion, gives me goosebumps. What a scene! 🎬
Season 3, when that Russian guy commanded The Fearless go out and attack the American ship and proceeded to fire the first missile, I was like "F * DUDE!, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE JUST STARTED!?!?!"
I am sure he thought he did, Dude!
he knows. that's why he did it
Ciws, "Did u forget about me boy"
cwis is last resort,
There were so many unrealistic things. First off, no ship with VLS can run out of "active ammo" and have to reload, the point of VLS is to be able to fire all at a time, neither would the russians fire only one missile, even if the logic was correct, it wouldnt give any advantage to wait before firing the rest. Secondly, the russian missile is a Zircon hypersonic AShM, which at the mid-terminal flight phase is extremely difficult to take out with CIWS and RAM due to its speed and ability to maneuver. Thus the Roosvelt should have engaged it with its VLS SM-2s which would saturate it with numbers in the mid range, while it is still accelerating. Waiting for a missile that is at its strongest up close to get close to you is just stupid
yeah this was done by somebody who's only knowledge was reading the weapon systems names on Wikipedia. the only possible thing i can think of for justifying a "reload" for a active VLS system is maybe someone misunderstanding how stacked VLS cells work, but either way the writers did a horrible job with these scene which is a real shame, wish someone did their job for a second and opened a book or did a few hours worth of reading online.
for some reason we called them "movie" ????
Hypersonic cruise missiles ability to maneuver at high speeds is greatly exaggerated and wouldn’t stop accurate counter fire from a destroyer. Not to mention the AEGIS system can engage targets moving at more than twice the speed allegedly achieved by the zircon.
@@alexalbrecht5768 You mean ABMD - AEGIS Ballistic Missile Defense. BMD capability is only available for a minority of AEGIS-equiped ships.
The SM-3 is designed to intercept ballistic missiles on an atmospheric trajectory midcourse and the SM-6 is supposed to intercept ballistic missiles in their terminal phase. However, sometimes standard missiles fail to intercept targets in their relatively limited number of live-fire tests and intercepting hypersonic missiles is more complex than intercepting ballistic missiles.
@@czechchineseamerican a majority of aegis vessels are equipped with AEGIS BMD and more are gaining that capability every year. The SM-3 and SM-6 have a very successful test record against a diverse array of targets.
Those birds flew for 7+ seconds and traveled 50 feet from the ship?
They were launched to starboard, curved behind the ship to portside, flew for seven seconds only to then return from the DDG's port quater to intercept the AShM coming in from starboard.
Yeah, absolutly not.
They are trying to start a war
this looks fun! I hope it's still on
Why use Sea Ram when they can intercept using ESSM or SM2 on their VLS at longer range.. 😅
I am very impressed with their command of English. 😁
What episode is this?
The Roosevelt is a beautiful Arleigh Burke class destroyer .
There is a bit false weaponry showed in this video: Standard Missile is an anti air weapon not an ASW. SeaRAM isnt used by an arleigh burke, it is the RIM-116 RAM. The rocket flight path is not right and Arleigh Burke destroyer doesn't only have two anti air missiles, so the russians captain sentence doesn't make much sense. Neverthereless I enjoyed this series 😄.
SM-6 has a secondary role as an AShM in lieu of the introduction of VLS launched AShM Tomahawk and LRASM, so it would be the go-to anti-ship option
Also showed SLQ on the Russian ship?
Is that a Gorshkov-class frigate or am I having a stroke here given that this looks like a Russian guided-missile destroyer that looks nothing like a Russian Sovremenny?
Probably it's a Gorshkov, as a Sovremenny dont have VLS..
Mister Fantastic!!!!
John Krasinski as Jack Ryan nice
only countermissles? I wouldve thought the entire ship could hide inside a massive chaf-smoke while fireing gatling guns at the incoming missle as extra insurance but idk
The CIWS cannon is meant to be a last line of defense; most American warship's primary defenses are electronic countermeasures or NATO Sea Sparrow missiles like the ones you see here. This is actually a fairly realistic depiction of what a modern naval battle would look like.
@@ManiaMac1613 Pretty sure the intercept in this video is well within the last line of defense. They were bracing for impact. CWIS would've also engaged way before this. It's not like they would rather risk the impact then waste the CWIS just because they launched a missile.
they actually even say later that CIWS was fired and needs to reload...@@sam23696
@@Klemheist hahaha right? There is so much wrong with this scene.
Russia needing 2 keys to launch anti ship missiles like they are launching nukes, and launching from what looks like the bridge of the ship that does not have weapon stations.
And then the US ship launching 2 missiles from the wrong launched since the arley burke should launch from VLS cells and how those missiles intercept 50 meters in front of the ship :))). The CIWS would have obliterated that missile by then :))
And so much more, this scene is just for dramatic effect but those that know better cringe so hard :))
@@UncleMisu Season 3 is not the best season. There is a lot of plot holes and inaccuracies, like this "battle". Why would countermeasure missiles go in the opposite direction then return to take out the target mere seconds before impact? Who is this scene made for? People who liked The Last Ship?
Was that one of the characters from Red October?
Felt like it LOL
because if the enemy is preparing to attack you would absolutly leave your station, walk calmly through the CIC to find the watch officer and then return the same way....
Russians speaking English for the mere fact that there’s plenty of people out there who can’t read subtitles that fast…
Old dude really thought Burke only got 1 interceptors😂😂😂 LOL, Bruhhh it can launch all its missiles and torpedos on you if it wants.
Wat season & episode was dis
My only beef with this show is they expect the audience to believe that the American ship can only defend against one missile and would be helpless to defened against a second. I get why they did it, a 40 missile barrage would take some time and would be far harder to believe it was the act of a rogue captain and not a true act of war.
Perfect for what happened over US skies.
yes
Yep
Whoever did this knows nothing whatsoever about naval anti air warefare, no softkill, no high-speed maneuvering, and if i saw this correctly the defensive missiles went the wrong way. Why?
These virtual reality shouldn't come alive just ensure that
Am I crazy for thinking they could just use the phalanx?
They do know that American moderns hips have more then 2 defenses lol
90k views, 561 likes and 15 comments in 5 months? 😂😂 No wonder Bezos is pissed at Prime Video!
I wouldn’t be wasting time asking for permission to fire way I see it if an enemy opens up on me without provocation or justification I’m gonna defend myself simple as
Spoken like a true E-1. Officers are paid to think.
I mean this video looks cool
Wtf? I’m confused as to why they don’t use the other missiles?? No war ship Carrys 2 on active duty!
yes😂😛
Take out defences? after 2 sparrows? seriously?
Why is the american captain asking for co ordinates (location) of a missile that moves really fast improve your acting and source materiel my guy
God this is unrealistic.
This is actually pretty realistic; Russians having only one working missile and an abundance of corrupt, incompetent leaders.
😢
‘Depending on how you look at message in capital letters ‘ ‘REAL’ “real” ‘FAKE’ “fake”- do new batch of communication officer have to learn these or now you use ai with color coded message instead
Jack Ryan, he’s kinda a big deal y’all!
Nah ! Gimme Harrison Ford anytime. Isn't this Jack in that 13 hours in Benghazi movie?
Those Russian accents are so bad some them sound more Scottish. This show is so amazingly bad.
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Wrong launcher. Wrong orders. Just wrong. Got it all wrong. Shit writing.
Oh god, this is bad.
What a remarkably bad show. Glad I never finished the first season.
what nonsense... the idea and the script and the filming are ridiculous...
trying to destroy an enemy ship, it is necessary to fire at least two anti-ship missiles... since the estimated target defeat for the anti-ship missiles is 0.8-0.9.
And then a crazy captain wants to start a war (!) and fires 1 missile - this can be passed off as an UNNORMAL triggering of the “friend or foe” auto-response if the diplomats want...
The presence of strangers on the bridge and the chatter between the lieutenant and the colonel are simply unrealistic... Disgusting, unrealistic movie...
какая ерунда... и идея и сценарий и сьемки...
пытаясь уничтожить судно противника - необходимо выпускать не менее двух противокорабельных ракет... поскольку расчетное поражение цели у ПКР 0.8-0.9
а тут сумасшедший капитан хочет начать войну (!) и выпускает 1 ракету - да это можно выдать за НЕШТАТНОЕ срабатывание автоответа "свой-чужой", если дипломаты постараются
опять же присутствие на мостике посторонних и болтовня лейтенанта с полковником - просто нереальны