The fact that the CIA answers to NIA, who answers to the President and Congress IC. Members of the Congressional Intelligence Committee meet with the Director of National Intelligence only. The CIA is an umbrella and no one can tell you what any of those entities are doing at any given moment. Compartmentalization is the sure way of keeping plausible deniability.
Not sure which congressional videos you've been watching, maybe I don't watch the those 'self-serving Senators? No offense, I'm genuinely wondering myself. Gotta support the ones that align with your concerns in the House and Congress.
@@Political_Brainrot_AuditorYes, We ALL do. I'll take that as a threat to all of us here and our families, I'm sure we can get a speedy trial arranged, you don't want to spend too long in Guantanamo
My favorite part of this scene is when the Senator says that they all have TS/SCI as if that somehow gives them unlimited authority to discuss all intelligence. It literally says COMPARTMENTALIZED in the name of the clearance level.
My favorite part is how you think she didn't already know and how the oversight committee shouldn't be aware. You realize she HAD the documents and was the one sharing? He was trying to shut her up.
Having a TS/SCI clearance doesn't automagically give you access to classified information, and SCI information is compartmentalized. Having access to things in one compartment does NOT automatically confer access to things in another compartment. The whole concept of compartmentalization is to prevent anyone from gathering so much specialized access to information that THEY become a liability to the security of the United States of America - I just want to make this very clear. Sure, it's a movie but a lot of people get bad information from movies and then go out and spew it everywhere. You have to be in a position where your job depends on access to a certain compartment, you have to be CLEARED for that compartment (I worked with a few people that had to be retrained because they couldn't get clearance to certain compartments that were necessary for their jobs - and they DON'T just clear you because your job requires it); it's called "Need to Know" but it's not as simple as the phrase "Need to Know" seems to imply to people. Before I told anyone of anything or showed anyone anything inside the SCIF I had to verify they were cleared to know.
@@grahamfloyd3451 A long post to be sure -- but he's correct. Top Secret is a level. SCI is a compartment. There are lots (maybe hundreds) of compartments within and outside of TS/SCI. But there is always at least one member of each party read into these compartments on both the Senate and House Intelligence Committees. And the committee chairmen are usually read into everything.
Yeah, it's wrong. You could forgive it under the idea that people make little missteps in language all the time, especially when speaking extemporaneously in front of a senate committee.
I enjoyed seasons 1-3, but could not suffer more than the third episode of current (and thankfully final) season. JK is stellar in his role. I look forward to watching him in a feature film with better writers.
@@dustinwilson4815it turned into a highschool drama that was written by the lady that did teen wolf some hallmark shows and greys anatomy, after they decided to separate from previous directors.
@@tekunniyi No. I definitely liked 3 a LOT more than 4. 4 was missing two episodes and the plot took a hit for it. There should have been another twist that set it up for a better ending over the last two non-existent episodes. It was too easy to predict. I guessed the villain the moment she started talking. The writing was not on par with previous seasons, all of which I loved. I still enjoyed the 4th season, however, Mike November and Chavez were great in their roles. I look forward to some sort of potential spinoff from them. Hopefully with far better writers/directors. But season 4 was easily the least of them all, and seemed like they phoned it in...
If the predecessor was removed, then they are in fact, Former, as they are not in line for succession. A more egregious error would be to say "Latter Successor".
@@jamend81 I know. I saw the bit in season 2 or 3 or whatever, when they worked in the ambush sequence from Clear and Present Danger. What I mean is, they're not going to make a movie that ends with someone crashing a passenger plane into the Capitol, or President Jack Ryan fending off deletion attempts.
Yes they should, otherwise these agencies, the government can just do what they want, with no effective checks and balances and oversight and accountability of government actions.
This. The executive should always be answerable to the people, and the people, represented by its legislators. Jack may answer to the president, but the president answers to the people. The people has 2 innate powers over the executive as part of its checks and balances. It has the power to impeach executive officials it finds not respecting the people. or it can withhold funding for any government agency so as to stifle it from being able to do what the legislative thinks it should not do.
Bad actors in the CIA could also very well be the problem. I know it's trendy to consider senators idiots, but it's important to have civilian oversight.
Narcissists always believe that. Which is why the narcissistic sociopathic social engineering networks don’t allow things to be properly described. They would not be able to get away with everything that they get away with if they are properly described. The accuracy of government records and documents is a lot like how police body cam footage shows what happened at the scene... The bureaucratic program influence agendas causes the report written to facilitate the agenda. Not everyone can be trusted with the truth. Not everyone can recognize the truth of reality even after tripping over it multiple times.
Congress doesn't need clearance to access classified information. The Executive Branch is required to keep Congress "fully informed" of intel activities per the 1947 National Security Act.
I don’t remember what caused him to go rogue in season 3, even though it was my favorite season. However, I’m pretty sure he was set-up by someone? He really could have said something like “Senator, I was setup by forces working under the previous administration that did not have this country’s best interest in mind. That is what we are working to fix.”
The Senate seems so concerned with Jack Ryan's involvement in Russia when what they should REALLY be concerned with is that Hector is gonna be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines. And on top of that, he just came into Harry's and he ordered three T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust.
It doesn't work that way. If the one responsible for that kind of thing have no idea whether his organization involve in it or not is a really bad thing. That is his job to making sure all the assests doing what they are supposed to do. A powerful organization like CIA needed to be kept in tight lease. The idea of its assets were used without higher authority's knowledge signify a significant internal problem
This is true, but these people are the Gang of Eight. They are supposed to be treated with the same deference as POTUS in terms of classified information, as the civil oversight arm of congress with regards to intelligence and security matters.
* committee guy shuffling stack of papers, reaches under table and comes up with a stapler inside a glob of Jello... * "Dr Ryan...?" / "Oh yeah, that was me. I keep forgetting."
"Well, everyone here has TS/SCI clearance, so..." "Sure, sure. And just as soon as you provide the relevancy to this briefing, I'll consider that maybe you have a valid need to know."
According to the Constitution the Congress has oversight over the executive branch. So, yes Jack Ryan has to report to the senate intelligence committee. No if only we can get Congress to do its job.
Came here to say the same thing. Congress, for some reason, has very little recourse when an agency is stonewalling. Contempt of Congress has little teeth to “persuade “ the truth out of these witnesses.
@@privateobvious655 Dont say that. Show us where in the Constitution it says that Legislative has oversight over Executive has none over them. Then kindly, in addition, tell us where it says that Judicial has oversight over everything, but the other 2 have none over them once appointed.
You know you spend your entire youth doing all kinds of office practical jokes and then wonder why people don't take you seriously when you finally get into a position of power.
I never dreamt that Krasinski could play anything other than the goofy guy from The Office. Too bad his stint as Mr. Fantastic was only a temporary one for the fans.
"uh-..Wel- My point is, that you, might appear to be our saving grace, when, you may in fact be part of the problem" "Now you see things from my perspective, Senator"
That scene could and should have been far more important in defining the CIA mission and processes. Sadly they dropped simply rolled out the Hollyweird trope.
"Accountable to", and "Reporting to", are two different things. He Reports To his direct supervisor/chain-of-command, i.e., in his case, the CIA Director. Who in turn reports to the President. But Congress is a separate branch of Government. Each of our three branches of Government are certainly "Accountable" to each other (or at least designed to be), by their various Constitutional mechanisms. This is the "Civilian Oversight" function you're looking for: elected Representatives. But Oversight is only accountability for the results of what you're doing (after you've been doing it), not the chain-of-command orders that told the CIA officer what to do in the first place.
This scene is completely unrealistic. SSCI oversees all intelligence activity (it's in the name) and there is literally nothing they are not cleared to see. Ryan in this case would be in the wrong and would end up in some hot water.
The Intelligence Community has become the 4th Branch of Government in the US, replete with its own form of separation of powers protection from the other three. Congress essentially has no oversight over this new branch when an intelligence agency or director can avoid answering any question by citing a “risk to sources & methods.” The Patriot Act made this possible, by combining all of the intelligence agencies under the DNI, establishing Homeland Security & including the Department of Justice National Security Division. The DOJ-NSD inclusion is THE MOST troubling aspect because it gives the DOJ a leg in this new branch, in addition to their leg in the Executive branch. This gives the DOJ the unconstitutional ability to be immune from congressional oversight, regardless of the majority. In addition to deciding who is breaking the law & who gets investigated, charged, and prosecuted, the DOJ can evade answering Congress with the oft repeated “can not comment on ongoing investigations,” while simultaneously leaking selective information from those investigations to the media.
Unless congress is trained in counter intelligence and homeland defense they have no business being involved with or in control of out Intelligence Comminity. America really needs to stop operating as if being elected by the people qualifies a person for something. Our elected officials are not trained in much of anything. They are woefully unqualified. They don't even write the bills they propose. They hire people to do that. At most they should focus on legislation, and leave specialized fields to trained professionals. Just look at what's happening in the medical industries. Congressmen and judges without a bit of medical training making medical decisions for millions of women. Itd insane and dangerous. Congressional oversight doesn't ensure efficiency or sensible operation. It just means a bunch of untrained debutantes are in the kitchen getting in the way of the actual cooks.
Scriptwriters need some help. Just because the lady says "we have TS/SCI Clearance" and thinks they are entitled to the information, is not necessarily the case. I hear this all the time in movies or on the news. I was in the Military and had TS/SCI clearance. What SCI stands for is Sensitive Compartmented Information. That means you have the highest access to certain specific information within a "compartment" of details. So just because they have SCI clearance for one mission or some other general information, would not mean they are cleared to be read-in to the details on some past Russian mission he was involved with. I know this is not known by most viewers, so I just felt like putting it out there.
Technically none of them have clearance, but they are all "cleared" by virtue of sitting on the SSCI. There is nothing the SSCI is not "cleared" to not see.
"Change starts from the top. You going rogue...why should we expect anything to change?" I genuinely hope at least one person looked up from the script read of that and just looked around the room like "...oh, that was supposed to be serious?"
@brucecrane7504 not necessarily true. There are some things deemed even too classified for the Overight Commitee.. Homeland Security Directive 51's Classified Annexes for example are deeply classified and no one has ever seen them since Bush signed them in 2007
"As soon as (Amazon) gave us Season 3 and 4, we felt like we had won the lottery," Krasinski says. "We've been around the business long enough to know not to assume there'll be more. Everyone wants to exit before you're asked to exit. It was time." Krasinski said they built up a relationship between the characters since the first season, and they wanted to end in a way that meant something for the audience, the characters, and the actors involved as they moved on to other projects. just quoting some media sources here
The concept of compartmentalized security is at least 80 years old, and it was used heavily in Vietnam and throughout the cold war. The concept isn't a secret. It's common sense.
@@taoliu3949 'cleared' means someone has made a determination that they have an ability to view something. It does not mean that any particular member of any particular unit is going to disclose or acknowledge any information, certainly not without approval from their chain of command. We have civilian oversight, but we also have common sense in operational groups.
Shall we remind ourselves of Jack Ryan being a badass in Season 3? 😎 ruclips.net/video/ZNpk9RZQRxs/видео.html
It's pretty cringe actually.
Actually, yeah, you do, you security state maggot. You report to public officials.
zero accountability and fully clandestine, so realistic to the true CIA
Need to know
The biggest problem with this scene is US Senators not acting like complete self serving idiots.
They weren't on camera.
Public hearings are very different then ones held behind closed doors.
you left out "smug."
To double tap, behind closed doors behavior is quite different. It's the voter that eats up and enjoys the self-serving idiotic behavior.
The fact that the CIA answers to NIA, who answers to the President and Congress IC. Members of the Congressional Intelligence Committee meet with the Director of National Intelligence only. The CIA is an umbrella and no one can tell you what any of those entities are doing at any given moment. Compartmentalization is the sure way of keeping plausible deniability.
Not sure which congressional videos you've been watching, maybe I don't watch the those 'self-serving Senators? No offense, I'm genuinely wondering myself. Gotta support the ones that align with your concerns in the House and Congress.
One thing I like about this show is how Jack has grown more confident. No way he would be able to speak like this in season 1.
do i watch this
i watched Amazon primes REACHER and enjoyed that
@@rk350z7 I would recommend it. It is more spy and espionage than Reacher but it is similar in quality.
He will be helping subvert US elections in another year or two.
@nikunjdixit1175 You mean more woke this is complete pandering garbage
“Change starts at the top.”
I agree 100%..Senator! However, I notice that your chair sits higher than mine.
"Agreed, so as to correct our past mistakes, you're fired Dr Ryan."
as if they could do that..@@sdp9z
@@sdp9z "Fair enough, Senator. And as a friendly reminder, we all have names, addresses and loved ones. Sleep tight."
@@Political_Brainrot_AuditorYes, We ALL do. I'll take that as a threat to all of us here and our families, I'm sure we can get a speedy trial arranged, you don't want to spend too long in Guantanamo
@@m1leswilliams “Thanks for letting me know in advance. Guess I’ll use my CIA training to disappear off the grid. See ya soon. 👋 “
Identity theft is not a joke Jim!
Millions of families suffer every year!
He's actually Bill Buttlicker!
They should have cast Randall Park as Jack Ryan for Season 4.
@@NBP722 Nah but it might be a funny SNL skit
The Office ended 10 years ago dude. The world's moved on. It's time you did too.
My favorite part of this scene is when the Senator says that they all have TS/SCI as if that somehow gives them unlimited authority to discuss all intelligence. It literally says COMPARTMENTALIZED in the name of the clearance level.
Yeah, IIRC, SCI isnt a clearance level.
@@gotzmadskittlez3406 It isn't
The implication is clearly that they should be read in and informed of those programs.
That TS/SCI is cool and all, but is their Cyber Awareness Challenge cert up to date?
My favorite part is how you think she didn't already know and how the oversight committee shouldn't be aware. You realize she HAD the documents and was the one sharing? He was trying to shut her up.
"Yet you can not prove that we weren't involved"
So it stopped being rational and credible right there.
One can’t prove the absence of something.
Precisely.
Well, rational anyway. That made it seem even more realistic.... Unfortunately.
@@rajeshkanungo6627 sure you can. Hold an object in one hand and nothing in the other. Which hand has nothing?
@@JohnDoe69986 neither.
Having a TS/SCI clearance doesn't automagically give you access to classified information, and SCI information is compartmentalized. Having access to things in one compartment does NOT automatically confer access to things in another compartment. The whole concept of compartmentalization is to prevent anyone from gathering so much specialized access to information that THEY become a liability to the security of the United States of America - I just want to make this very clear. Sure, it's a movie but a lot of people get bad information from movies and then go out and spew it everywhere. You have to be in a position where your job depends on access to a certain compartment, you have to be CLEARED for that compartment (I worked with a few people that had to be retrained because they couldn't get clearance to certain compartments that were necessary for their jobs - and they DON'T just clear you because your job requires it); it's called "Need to Know" but it's not as simple as the phrase "Need to Know" seems to imply to people. Before I told anyone of anything or showed anyone anything inside the SCIF I had to verify they were cleared to know.
And the real Senator Leahy is known as 'Leaky' for a reason.
I agree, she was not entitled to the information she was demanding.
Amen to this. I'm a security manager for my unit and tell all people this who needs access to certain classified information.
Mrthingy in all due respect, that was a huge wall of text to say you don't understand the civics here...
@@grahamfloyd3451 A long post to be sure -- but he's correct. Top Secret is a level. SCI is a compartment. There are lots (maybe hundreds) of compartments within and outside of TS/SCI. But there is always at least one member of each party read into these compartments on both the Senate and House Intelligence Committees. And the committee chairmen are usually read into everything.
@@rogerodle8750 why are you talking?
I wonder how he's able to juggle the demands of all this AND his other job as a northeast regional paper salesman.
Split personality?
AND his other other job as a member of the Illuminati.
@@stevehoffman9735 Body double...
And running Cattleman’s Ranch Steakhouse!!
I think it was a career transition.
“Change starts from the top”
Ah, senator. I’m pretty sure that YOU think that YOU’RE the top.
They do, until they have to take responsibility then suddenly it's someone else.
This is a real “stapler in the jello” moment for our country.
What?
Jim finally started taking his job seriously...😂
1:40, such great writing: “our former predecessor” 😂
Yeah, it's wrong. You could forgive it under the idea that people make little missteps in language all the time, especially when speaking extemporaneously in front of a senate committee.
Unless 'former' is in the context of deceased ...
@@nigelftyou are correct
People make these type of tautologies regularly in daily speech. Chai tea, naan bread, ramen noodles, etc. it’s not particularly egregious.
@@teddithcrusing8358 ATM Machine.
It's funny how Senators will grill others and say how they aren't doing their jobs right but can't keep their own house in order.
How they got through this scene after referring to the CIA as a saving grace is beyond me.
It isn't a comedy?
She wasn't referring to the CIA as a saving grace, she was referring to Ryan himself.
In the Ryanverse it kinda is
that slight zoom at @1:26 looks like an easter egg zoom from The Office sitcom lol
The only problem is that, the senate isn't on their phones.
Please.... more seasons of this great franchise
Imagine if this is how actual senate hearing went. No one actually answers questions.
That’s exactly what happens
i think we watch different senate hearings buddy. the senate hearings that actually happen are far far worse.
ISNT IT ALREADY
Jack needs a friend. I suggest Bob Lee Swagger.
Let’s also get Jack Reacher and John Wick. The Fab Four.
That show needed 5 more seasons at least
That is one great series. I wish we could have more seasons.
I enjoyed seasons 1-3, but could not suffer more than the third episode of current (and thankfully final) season. JK is stellar in his role. I look forward to watching him in a feature film with better writers.
Okay, you don't like it. Why?
@@dustinwilson4815it turned into a highschool drama that was written by the lady that did teen wolf some hallmark shows and greys anatomy, after they decided to separate from previous directors.
@@Muhfuc Interesting. I wonder what the drama was.
I actually prefer four to three
@@tekunniyi No. I definitely liked 3 a LOT more than 4. 4 was missing two episodes and the plot took a hit for it. There should have been another twist that set it up for a better ending over the last two non-existent episodes. It was too easy to predict.
I guessed the villain the moment she started talking. The writing was not on par with previous seasons, all of which I loved.
I still enjoyed the 4th season, however, Mike November and Chavez were great in their roles. I look forward to some sort of potential spinoff from them. Hopefully with far better writers/directors. But season 4 was easily the least of them all, and seemed like they phoned it in...
FORMER predecessor? Predecessor means former.
Just like Garlic Aioli; it's already garlic~
If the predecessor was removed, then they are in fact, Former, as they are not in line for succession. A more egregious error would be to say "Latter Successor".
It's only a problem if they're still breathing...
Is the precursor to the successor just nothing?
The previous person before you?
Jack Ryan is an excellent character from Tom Clancy's series of books. Starting with The Hunt For Red October.
Debt of Honor and Executive Orders are fantastic books. But they will never be adapted for the screen at this point.
@@TheSchaef47and all the recent adaptations have very loosely based on the books.
@@jamend81 I know. I saw the bit in season 2 or 3 or whatever, when they worked in the ambush sequence from Clear and Present Danger.
What I mean is, they're not going to make a movie that ends with someone crashing a passenger plane into the Capitol, or President Jack Ryan fending off deletion attempts.
Oversight over government agencies is what the Senate and House should do
Seriously, there's some guys above with clearances that don't have a 5th grade understanding of how our government works.
Agreed, but instead they generally advance their own individual agendas.
Yes they should, otherwise these agencies, the government can just do what they want, with no effective checks and balances and oversight and accountability of government actions.
Ummm we do have oversight committees but they have no teeth. Not like anyone would use them even if they did.
This. The executive should always be answerable to the people, and the people, represented by its legislators.
Jack may answer to the president, but the president answers to the people.
The people has 2 innate powers over the executive as part of its checks and balances. It has the power to impeach executive officials it finds not respecting the people. or it can withhold funding for any government agency so as to stifle it from being able to do what the legislative thinks it should not do.
Krasinki is Jack Ryan? OMG! Where have I been, and what have they done to my favourite character? OMG!
These senators don't believe that they are the problem, it's everyone else's fault.
Bad actors in the CIA could also very well be the problem. I know it's trendy to consider senators idiots, but it's important to have civilian oversight.
Narcissists always believe that.
Which is why the narcissistic sociopathic social engineering networks don’t allow things to be properly described.
They would not be able to get away with everything that they get away with if they are properly described.
The accuracy of government records and documents is a lot like how police body cam footage shows what happened at the scene...
The bureaucratic program influence agendas causes the report written to facilitate the agenda.
Not everyone can be trusted with the truth.
Not everyone can recognize the truth of reality even after tripping over it multiple times.
Just like in real life
Is John channeling Harrison Ford here? ‘Cause I’m getting vibes from this scene.
Just because you have a TS/SCI doesn’t mean you have access to all classified information.
She could probably find a way to "need to know" and get whatever report in her hands.
Of course if she didn't do her annual training, she's SOL lol.
Congress doesn't need clearance to access classified information. The Executive Branch is required to keep Congress "fully informed" of intel activities per the 1947 National Security Act.
This is the SSCI, he’s REQUIRED to give information to them and they all have the requisite clearances.
I don’t remember what caused him to go rogue in season 3, even though it was my favorite season. However, I’m pretty sure he was set-up by someone? He really could have said something like “Senator, I was setup by forces working under the previous administration that did not have this country’s best interest in mind. That is what we are working to fix.”
"Everyone here has TS/SCI clearance, though."
Ryan: "Your clearance is irrelevant. That doesn't mean you have a need to know."
Love Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan series. Hope they continue making great movies and shows off of it.
This show deserved a better platform - Rather than Prime Video.
Oh I'm sorry for stopping a war with Russia!
More to the point the whole reason he ended up "going rogue" was because of the former Director.
They're senators, they aren't too bright
@@1320crusierso in other words, realistic.
The Senate seems so concerned with Jack Ryan's involvement in Russia when what they should REALLY be concerned with is that Hector is gonna be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines. And on top of that, he just came into Harry's and he ordered three T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust.
i've seen videos from senate hearings in the US. they DO NOT go like this. for starters, he's answered questions.
You have NOT seen videos of hearings like this.
@@josephhodges9819 Sorry, that's not in my purview.
Fwiw, closed hearings are supposedly VERY different than public ones.
How is he supposed to prove that they weren't involved? Impossible!
It doesn't work that way. If the one responsible for that kind of thing have no idea whether his organization involve in it or not is a really bad thing.
That is his job to making sure all the assests doing what they are supposed to do.
A powerful organization like CIA needed to be kept in tight lease. The idea of its assets were used without higher authority's knowledge signify a significant internal problem
He achieved Dwight's dream.
I like the fact that he is not bowing to these tin-plated martinets; he is his own person, in total control of the interaction...
That’s a senate.
It doesn’t end with this one conversation. What you speak here turns into…
Yeah, you do know It’s a movie, don’t you and Jack Ryan is fictitious?
This reminds me of when Democrats question anyone who is a threat to their way of life
This is true, but these people are the Gang of Eight. They are supposed to be treated with the same deference as POTUS in terms of classified information, as the civil oversight arm of congress with regards to intelligence and security matters.
This scene is unrealistic and doesnt make sense. The whole reason why this is a closed session is so he can brief classified information to the SSCI.
Jim quits FBI and joins CIA. Now, Dwight schrute can get his helicopter mission.
There's two words that don't belong in the same sentence. "Senate" and "Intelligence".
* committee guy shuffling stack of papers, reaches under table and comes up with a stapler inside a glob of Jello... * "Dr Ryan...?" / "Oh yeah, that was me. I keep forgetting."
Why not more seasons ? This was one of the best and realistic season ever .
It's ironic that Jack's response to the commitee ( I don't answer to you )is exactly
what the public hears from the government .....
"Well, everyone here has TS/SCI clearance, so..."
"Sure, sure. And just as soon as you provide the relevancy to this briefing, I'll consider that maybe you have a valid need to know."
The relevancy is that they are the SSCI, there is nothing they don't have the need to know for.
That grandma senator is a truly OG 😁 she probably saw a dozen Jacks in her career 😂
According to the Constitution the Congress has oversight over the executive branch. So, yes Jack Ryan has to report to the senate intelligence committee.
No if only we can get Congress to do its job.
His response is probably why Kennedy wanted to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces.
The IC agencies just want Congress to hand over taxpayer money and then go away.
Came here to say the same thing. Congress, for some reason, has very little recourse when an agency is stonewalling. Contempt of Congress has little teeth to “persuade “ the truth out of these witnesses.
An executive branch that is not answerable to the citizens' elected representatives is a dictatorship.
@@privateobvious655 Dont say that. Show us where in the Constitution it says that Legislative has oversight over Executive has none over them. Then kindly, in addition, tell us where it says that Judicial has oversight over everything, but the other 2 have none over them once appointed.
His pranks finally went too far, huh..
"Change needs to happen at the top..." Should have responded: Well sir, you are at the top.
Krasinki sounds like he’s reading his lines from a cue card
So basically he NAILED a modern day senate hearing. Great actor.
Such a great series.
You know you spend your entire youth doing all kinds of office practical jokes and then wonder why people don't take you seriously when you finally get into a position of power.
I didn’t even know there was a second season…never mind a THIRD season!! 😮 I need to catch up!
This is from season 4 (the final season) :-)P
LOL moment...politicians talking about change!
I never dreamt that Krasinski could play anything other than the goofy guy from The Office. Too bad his stint as Mr. Fantastic was only a temporary one for the fans.
"uh-..Wel- My point is, that you, might appear to be our saving grace, when, you may in fact be part of the problem"
"Now you see things from my perspective, Senator"
I report to regional manager, michael scott!
That scene could and should have been far more important in defining the CIA mission and processes. Sadly they dropped simply rolled out the Hollyweird trope.
If Ryan does not report to the senate, who does he report to and why does that increase civilian oversight of the agency?
"Accountable to", and "Reporting to", are two different things. He Reports To his direct supervisor/chain-of-command, i.e., in his case, the CIA Director. Who in turn reports to the President.
But Congress is a separate branch of Government. Each of our three branches of Government are certainly "Accountable" to each other (or at least designed to be), by their various Constitutional mechanisms. This is the "Civilian Oversight" function you're looking for: elected Representatives. But Oversight is only accountability for the results of what you're doing (after you've been doing it), not the chain-of-command orders that told the CIA officer what to do in the first place.
Unfortunately, the actual truth is, much of the IC doesn't seem accountable to anyone.
This scene is completely unrealistic. SSCI oversees all intelligence activity (it's in the name) and there is literally nothing they are not cleared to see. Ryan in this case would be in the wrong and would end up in some hot water.
The Intelligence Community has become the 4th Branch of Government in the US, replete with its own form of separation of powers protection from the other three.
Congress essentially has no oversight over this new branch when an intelligence agency or director can avoid answering any question by citing a “risk to sources & methods.”
The Patriot Act made this possible, by combining all of the intelligence agencies under the DNI, establishing Homeland Security & including the Department of Justice National Security Division.
The DOJ-NSD inclusion is THE MOST troubling aspect because it gives the DOJ a leg in this new branch, in addition to their leg in the Executive branch.
This gives the DOJ the unconstitutional ability to be immune from congressional oversight, regardless of the majority.
In addition to deciding who is breaking the law & who gets investigated, charged, and prosecuted, the DOJ can evade answering Congress with the oft repeated “can not comment on ongoing investigations,” while simultaneously leaking selective information from those investigations to the media.
Unless congress is trained in counter intelligence and homeland defense they have no business being involved with or in control of out Intelligence Comminity.
America really needs to stop operating as if being elected by the people qualifies a person for something. Our elected officials are not trained in much of anything. They are woefully unqualified. They don't even write the bills they propose. They hire people to do that. At most they should focus on legislation, and leave specialized fields to trained professionals.
Just look at what's happening in the medical industries. Congressmen and judges without a bit of medical training making medical decisions for millions of women. Itd insane and dangerous.
Congressional oversight doesn't ensure efficiency or sensible operation. It just means a bunch of untrained debutantes are in the kitchen getting in the way of the actual cooks.
Scriptwriters need some help. Just because the lady says "we have TS/SCI Clearance" and thinks they are entitled to the information, is not necessarily the case. I hear this all the time in movies or on the news. I was in the Military and had TS/SCI clearance. What SCI stands for is Sensitive Compartmented Information. That means you have the highest access to certain specific information within a "compartment" of details. So just because they have SCI clearance for one mission or some other general information, would not mean they are cleared to be read-in to the details on some past Russian mission he was involved with. I know this is not known by most viewers, so I just felt like putting it out there.
Technically none of them have clearance, but they are all "cleared" by virtue of sitting on the SSCI. There is nothing the SSCI is not "cleared" to not see.
Sweetheart... I dont give a fk... ROFL🤣🤣
i was a marine , if you don't report , you know what it means😂
so that is how Jim got a hellicopter to pick up dwight
"Change starts from the top. You going rogue...why should we expect anything to change?"
I genuinely hope at least one person looked up from the script read of that and just looked around the room like "...oh, that was supposed to be serious?"
what does it mean ... tabernacle😂
You sold me big kahuna. Gonna watch this now.
stopped after season 2. Season 3 starting to feel like 24....
This would never go this way😅😅😅😅
I wish he had replied "Well if the problem is at the top then we should begin at the top, you people are the over watch right so you are THE TOP?
one more season. one more season. one more season.
Just because you have the clearance doesn't mean you have the need to know.
Exactly
Pretty sure an intelligence oversight committee has need to know
@brucecrane7504 not necessarily true. There are some things deemed even too classified for the Overight Commitee.. Homeland Security Directive 51's Classified Annexes for example are deeply classified and no one has ever seen them since Bush signed them in 2007
Not only do they have the need but the authority to demand it. Congressional oversight authority preceded security clearances by a century or so.
@@yumatomunless one of the sitting members is being investigated, or cleared bybthe president? There are circumstances
you must ... tu me le dois😂
no you will report on my parents😂
These Dunder Miflin HR DEI Awareness sessions have certainly taken a dark turn!
where are my hard disk?😂
"I'm sorry Mr. Senator, I don't recall"......Worked for me in '83.
He's managed to pepper his voice with a little Harrison Ford. That's impressive.
I absolutely love this show!!!
Jack Ryan is not a super soldier.
Can't unsee the Jim in him.
What episode is this
“I do not report to you.”
“You’re not my teacher.”
“You’re not my mom.”
Mature responses, all.
"Your not my manager!"
Assistant to the Regional Manager
May not report to them but you do answer to them.
Exactly WHY is this show ending??? This show is amazing...
"As soon as (Amazon) gave us Season 3 and 4, we felt like we had won the lottery," Krasinski says. "We've been around the business long enough to know not to assume there'll be more. Everyone wants to exit before you're asked to exit. It was time." Krasinski said they built up a relationship between the characters since the first season, and they wanted to end in a way that meant something for the audience, the characters, and the actors involved as they moved on to other projects.
just quoting some media sources here
Just because they have a security clearance level does NOT mean they have been given access to every classified program.
what series is this?
NOTHING like real life committe questioning - or answering.
I cannot confirm or deny
wait, when does this air????
Just having clearance does not mean you’ve been read in.
It's the SSCI, there's nothing they're not cleared to see.
Which season is this
A shout out to actress Nancy Lenehan as Senator Jennings. She has always been one of my favorite actresses.
"Ryan, mosht thingsh in here don't react well to bulletsh..."
"I" Don't react well to bullets!
I'm surprised how everyone in the comment section is so well-versed on security clearance levels of the government.
The concept of compartmentalized security is at least 80 years old, and it was used heavily in Vietnam and throughout the cold war. The concept isn't a secret. It's common sense.
A fair number of us are TS/SCI it seems.
@@tonyennis1787 G-14 classified here, can confirm.
@@tomsmith3045Except this is the SSCI. There is literally nothing they are not cleared to see.
@@taoliu3949 'cleared' means someone has made a determination that they have an ability to view something. It does not mean that any particular member of any particular unit is going to disclose or acknowledge any information, certainly not without approval from their chain of command. We have civilian oversight, but we also have common sense in operational groups.
Wow, this can be true in today's world given the future of our political world.
I find very funny people actually belive there is such thing as proof of a factual negative.
What a great show.
I’ve only watched the first season, I NEED to catch up! 😮
I hope they do a series/movie on Rainbow 6. They've already introduced Ding Chavez 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I loved the look on the senator's face when he tells her "With all respect, senator, I don't report to you".