YES PYL Uninc Review vs PYL
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
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0:00 - Intro
0:58 - How It Was Tested
1:19 - Summary
2:25 - Chakra Windows
2:36 - Sizing
3:09 - Shape/Camber/On Snow Feel
4:25 - Edge Hold
4:48 - Flex Personality
6:29 - Uneven Terrain
6:52 - Speed/Base Glide
7:46 - Turning/Carving
8:54 - Powder
10:53 - Conclusion 
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Awesome review thank you James 🤙
Thanks for the good words!
Great review. Thanks now I want one.
Thanks! I feel ya there and can't wait to ride my 157 when the season starts.
Hello. Thanks again for the great reviews. Thanks for putting a lot of nice information in them. 👏
I just ordered this board to replace my 6 years old Jones Mtn Twin which was bought based on another review of yours :D.
I wanted to give you my appreciation for your dedication.
Much Love,
Cristian
Thanks for the good words and support all these years Cristian.
Ended up getting one because it was on the list that James recommended me when I was stuck on a board to get for this year. If you have any questions, seriously just give James a shout.
Thanks and hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Can we get a mega merc review, love you guys.. keep ‘em coming either way!
Many thanks! Have a few reviews to do ahead of it but one is for sure coming. Sorry I'm soo behind.
Been waiting for this un-paid, un-biased, un-adulterated review of the un-inc to drop. Great job as always. That 157 looks right up my alley. Looking forward to more comparisons against other favorites in the future, hopefully including the Hybrid and Powgoda.
Many thanks and good suggestion. I'll try to get a comparison up this winter after the snow falls.
Same here !! I am just waiting for mine
Best snowboard I've ridden. Didn't think it could better than the PYL. This board floats like a champ!
Glad you liked it as much as I did.
Hey there - awesome review, im 6'1 88kg boot size 11.5 mens tossing up between 159 and 161 mainly ride JAPAN
What do you think would suit me best sir :)
Many thanks! You could pull off the 159 if you want something a little more maneuverable but I think the 161 is probably the better call all around for your specs and where you ride.
Loved the review! Was eyeing this as a powder compliment to my already capable yes standard.. just love the features and I personally love the graphic!
Two questions, would those ‘chakra’ parts in the nose and tail be more prone to damage? Is there material in there or just hollowed out and air pockets?
And second, do you helmet mount your cam like directly on top the helmet or slightly twoard forehead? I wanna use that mount with my insta360 but worry about it pulling my helmet forward or the weight feeling wierd.
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That would be a good 2 board quiver and the PYL Uninc would be floatier for pow as well as give you a different approach to groomer riding with better carves than your standard.
Good questions!
I don't know exactly what is in there and not sure about the little windows in the middle. The big window in the nose might be hollow but the tail is not. My 157 seems very well built and I'm not worried but I can't speak to long term reliability after only riding it several days. I might be able to mid winter but not now.
I mount my insta360 almost middle helmet and its just a touch closer towards my goggles. I tried it on the front by my goggles and it didn't come out as well when its centered or almost centered. It also feels better when riding. It still sucks to have a dildo cam on your head but it is better than holding a stick.
Thanks for the review. Pretty cool and complète 🤙 I'm planning a snow trip to japan next year and was wondering if you think it would float as easy in deeper pow conditions ?
Yeah it floats very well in all but pretty low angle pow. So if it fits your specs and you size it right, it could for sure work. If you want real in depth advice on other great floaters hit me up here. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Thanks James. Great review :)
When you say "ok to skid a turn when you get off your game," what happens when you skid a turn on a board that is not as forgiving? Will you catch an edge?
You are more likely to catch an edge.
hi James. Thanks for the awesome review. I’m 6’ and 165lbs wearing US 9 burton boots. Wondering if I should get the 155 or 157 for this board. I’m currently riding a Yes Standard 153.
Thanks! I think you might like the 157 better for your specs.
I'm deciding between the PYL Uninc and the Capita Kazu Pro, any thoughts on the subject? I'll primarily be on the East Coast if that makes a difference. Sick video thank you for the great information as always!
Thanks! Two boards that look similar but act very different. Kazu has a tapered directional look but almost feels like a centered mountain freestyle ride. PYL Uninc feels like a board with a lot of taper and it has a lot of taper 15mm. It is more like a true freeride board. For East Coast I would go PYL Uninc as it grips really well in hard to icy snow. I would go Kazu only if you want that tapered mountain freestyle twinish kind of feel. If you want more detailed advice based on your specs, riding style and lots of other detailss hit me up here. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Hey. Thanks for the informative review! I’m wondering if the 155 or 157 PYL UNINC would be too wide for my specs. 5’11”, 155lb, Size 8 US Men. I was hoping to use this board for powder and resort groomers.
Thanks for the help!
Tough call. 155 is a little more manuverable and 157 more fast/floaty. What make, model, year n size board do you ride now and how do u like it? If you want to do this right hit me up here so I can help you much better. thegoodride.com/contact-us/
Thank you for your reviews! How do you feel about your PYL uninc vs Orca? My home mountain is Crystal, WA so want something that can take heavier powder but nimble enough to navigate the chop and moguls in the afternoon (and groomers when it hasn't snowed in a while). Currently riding the 2011 T rice Pro 161.5 which I love, but looking for something that can be more laid back when my legs start to get tired. I am guessing some of lib techs hybrids have improved since then...I am going to demo the orca (I'm super used to the CRC profile w/ magnetraction) but they don't carry YES. Anything comparable in the Jones/Libtech/Gnu/Capita/Arbor/Rossi lineup that would be most similar to get an idea of how the PYL uninc profile rides?
Two pretty different boards. Don't know your specs (boot size, weight & Height) or ability level so hard to get a real idea of your take on the 161.5 pointy. The Orca might work really well for you since you are already used to T.Rice. It has a much more turny/set back ride compared to the Pointy you had. The PYL Uninc isn't as set back but it has similar taper and grip. It feels very stable like the Rossi XV and most Jones boards but doesn't have the spoon noses Jones has. Both accomplish the same thing you want but in a different way. If you want real advice hit me up here thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Hi! How would would you say the PYL Uninc compares to the Hometown Hero? I really like the Hometown Hero and how versatile it is for riding different types of terrain, but the lack of edgehold on icy snow (which I often see unfortunately) makes me consider replacing it.
This is a much better option for hard to icy snow. It will feel similar only more tapered than the Hometown Hero. If it works with your specs go for it.
According to Yes both PYL's have the same flex rating of 8/10, the same core (minus the 'chakra windows') and triax glass, so is the stiffer flex of the Uninc purely down to the added girth and therefore more wood? Thinking of getting the 155 as an all mountain one board quivver, and being about 15lbs over the recommended weight am hoping it'll be a bit more playful/flexy for those times I want to be a bit lazy. Or will it be a stiff ass death plank? I'm in US10 boots and Falcor bindings.
Flexes can vary from board to board but I will say the 2023 YES PYL demo we had was a good bit softer compared to the PYL Uninc. The PYL Uninc wasn't super stiff either. So I'm guessing your 195 and a US 10? you might want to go 157 or 159 depending on your height? Neither size should feel like a plank.
Thanks for a great review,! How does it compare to the Hybrid? I already own the hybrid uninc DCP and I wonder if the PYL uninc DCP will just överlap.
They are not as similar as you would think but there are some similarities. This has much more of the PYL DNA but with more taper, a wider nose and waist but still a pretty normal sized tail. Don't know enough about you, your specs, how you ride, where you ride and so on to really say if this will work for you or not. Hit me up here if you want legit advice. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Hi. How is this board compared to the k2 alchemist. Is there a lot of overlap with this 2 board? And if you have to pick 1 for hard charging and carving on east coast groomers which 1 would it be? Thanks for the reviews. And is there a alchemist review coming?
They are 2 different boards. I would choose the PYL Uninc only because it has more grip for the hard to icy snow you often see out east. If it was out West with most resorts out here it would be the Alchemist for hard charging/straight lining as it is a stiffer board that likes to go straight better than the PYL Uninc. If you want a more turny board that likes to circle carve and across the groomer carve better go PYL uninc. I also like the PYL Uninc a little better for pow but both are pretty good there.
Which of those you would pick for narrow couloirs, often with hard snow? (the reality of the Tatra Mountains) - my weight is 180lbs
Depends on your boot size but both would work pretty well depending on the size you pick. I would say the safe play is the PYL.
Hey James, thanks for these reviews - I am a huge fan!
I am 176cm (~ 5’9 to 5’10), weigh 72kg (158 lb), with size 7.5 feet.
I am currently riding the Kilroy 3D 2021 in 155, and felt like turn initiation was slow and my edges were not holding. I recently rode my friend’s Never Summer Proto Type 2 in 151, and it was a game changer: my turns were much quicker and my edges were holding really well on the steeps.
I am looking for an all mountain/freeride board and have a couple of questions for you: 1) would you recommend the PYL UnInc in 155 or would be the board be too big? I notice that the recommended foot size for that starts at a 9, 2) how does the PYL UnInc in 155 compare to the a) Kilroy 3D in 155 and the b) Never Summer Proto Type 2 in 151, and 3) if not the PYL UnInc, do you have any other favorites to recommend (I'm looking at the Lib Tech Lib Rig and the Yes Basic Uninc)?
Thanks for all the help here!!
Many thanks! Yeah the Kilroy 3D is very wide for 7.5 boots so it should feel really slow for your specs. When you buy a board moving forward it should always be about what fits your boot size first and everything else a distant second. So no on the PYL Uninc 155 (too wide). No on the Proto Type Two just because it is a mountain freestyle twin you can't set back. Also it's discontinued. The Proto Synthesis can't be set back much or at all in pow. Yes Basic Uninc 152- Yes this will be a great choice and if you have full size discs you can use the set back inserts in pow and get much easier float. I wish the NS Proto Synthesis had set back inserts too. Lib Rig could work too if you want something much more directional. If you want more in depth advice with other suggestions hit me up here. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks so much James! Really appreciate it.
Thanks again for your update with the 157 size. I decided to pull the trigger on this board. Sizing please, I'm advanced rider 160 lbs, 5´10", 10US. 155 or 157? I will mainly use it for freeriding on sporadic trip to the Alps and on in Sweden. Im just concerned about the carving capabilities on groomers, I own a Std Uninc 156 (which I will size down to 153) and that thing carved and hold an edge very well.
No problem. I would go 157. It's not a hard board to ride for lighter riders and with 10's you can easily turn it. Should carve very well. The 156 Standard Uninc seems like a very good fit for your specs. Why would you size down? I think it might be a good idea to hit me up here so I can get the full picture and give you much better advice. We are definitely skipping steps here. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks for the response, I will size down the Std Uninc from 56 to 53 mainly because I want something more playful and agile for the small mountains of Sweden and because I have other dedicated pow and freestyle boards. The 56 was too damp for my weight, and it was hard to ankle steer it, though very fun at high speeds and carving.
Sounds good.
Struggling with the waist width of this board. Im 5' 11' 190lbs with size 8 boots. Currently riding a 156 custom with a 25.2 waist width. Would you recommend the 157 in the un inc or should i just go to the standard pyl with the smaller waist width?
The pyl uninc is very different than the custom and has alot of taper so you ride a wider waist width and nose but the tail is narrower so it turns easier than youd think for the waist width. That bein said, size 8 isnt as ideal for your weight and height with this board. If your primarily riding the pyl uninc in powder go with the 57. If your going to ride alot of groomers, go with the regular 59 pyl
Hey thanks for all your reviews! Pretty set on the PYL Uninc. 5'9, 165, 10 boot. 157 seems like the perfect fit but I can't find it anywhere! Currently on a 157 K2 HH from 2016, and my home mountain is Brighton. As you know, it's a relatively low angle mountain but it has its pitches and I want this board for the steep & deep performance you tout in your review, as well as the lower angle trees. Hold out for next year or just get the 155? (My K2 is starting to delam and is straight outta pop.)
Thanks for the good words. Yeah tough call. They are making it next year so a 157 might be worth waiting for if you want a bigger ride. The 157 for sure worked better for me vs. the 155 and 159 but I'm 20+ lbs heavier than you. The 155 could easily work for your weight. Both will work for size 10's. I've never been to Brighton so hard to say which would be better for your terrain. I would say if it's mostly for pow go 157. If you are going to ride groomers and hit steep terrain more in pow the 155 could work too. Here's the thing though. Both sizes will be a lot better than the Happy Hour and provide much more float. This is just a guess but I think the 155 will have more surface area than your 157 HH.
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks for the response, I hadn't properly considered that extra 20 lbs. Sounds like the 155 would suit me just fine for a do-it-all daily driver without sacrificing too much on deep days. Last question before I pull the trigger, and I know it's pretty specific so no worries if you can't answer it: the Happy Hour absolutely destroys chunder, bumps, moguls, whatever. Never been on a better board for subprime conditions/uneven terrain. Should I expect the PYL Uninc. to take a little bit of a step back in that regard due to the camber profile?
No problem. You know the Happy Hour we tried was not as damp. It felt a little light and poppy. Not sure if we tried the same year you did so hard to say for sure but the PYL Uninc should be more damp.
@@thegoodridesnow Update: PYL Uninc. has insane float for a do-it-all board. Had a couple waist deep days this past week that were unreal on this thing! Might never bother busting out my little Sushi on pow days again.
@@mattdeal8256 Hi, Im about your size, which board size did you finally get for the PYL UnInc? thanks
Ride characteristics and insights of PYL UnInc vs new, softer Optimistic? Are the PYL, Opt and Hybrid all tending towards redundancy?
No. All 3 are pretty different in shape and overall ride.
For a more intermediate rider than expert out in Ontario like myself would you say the PYL is more suited for me vs PYL uninc ? I see a lot of reviews say the uninc is better given greater stiffness , more set back but I feel like the increases stiffness can be a drawback for intermediate and the setback probably won’t matter much given my location 😢
Not sure if it helps but I’m pretty short at 5’4 and weigh about 165 lbs l. I just bought the 156 PYL but seeing new reviews saying the PYL uninc is superior across the board
It helps. What size boot do you have? That is more important than height and weight. Based on the info given I think you might like the regular PYL better.
My boots are a size 8 !
So unfortunately this board is sold out everywhere in my area but I found one 159 model in stock, Im 5'7, 175 pounds with a size 10 boot. I saw what you said about sizing down due to the width so would this size work for me or should I just let it go and get the normal pyl in a 159?
That sucks but you can make the 159 work if you want more speed/float. It won't be as easy to turn as the 155 or 157 and be a little fatiguing in uneven snow for your specs but you might love it if you plan to ride it in deep pow or carve hard down open groomers. If you want other options hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
I plan to ride this as a two board quiver with an all mountain freestyle board, so maybe it would work if I just use the pyl for powder and charging?@@thegoodridesnow
Might be worth a go if you like the feel of bigger rides. If you don't you might be able to sell it if you don't like it. Or hit me with the link above if you want real help with finding a better fitting second board.
Curious how it carves in comparison to the Bezerker?
Very different turning experiences. The Berzerker has a very deep turny sidecut that almost fights you if you want to go straight. It can be very hooky. The PYL Uninc is very turny but not as turny as the Berzerker and not as hooky. Some absolutely love the Berzerkers turning experience and some love the PYL Uninc style of sidecut more. Both spring out of the turn quite well and carve really hard. If you want to circle carve the Berzerker has the edge but the PYL Uninc is more balanced for all types of carves.
Thanks again! Been riding pyl’s since they came out. Ready to mix it up a little. Your feedback helps a lot of people 👊🏻
How about in comparison to the hometown hero? I’m going to be spending more time on the east coast this year so I’m changing it up a little. Been riding pyl’s since they came out.
Which floats better in powder: PYL Uninc or Cardiff Crane for all mountain freestyle? If you had to pick one as a one-board-quiver that can hit everything and still have pop for side hits, which would you choose?
So do you mean riding powder more centered on board so you can ride switch a lot? If so I would go with the Crane. If you want more set back directional float the PYL Uninc will be better but it's going to still float better nose first riding on reference stance vs. the Crane. It just won't ride switch as well in powder due to the taper and much different shaped tail.
@@thegoodridesnow Great point, and I appreciate the nuanced answer! I ride switch infrequently, so the better float of the PYL Uninc would be of greater value.
For a capable high-level rider who charges steeps and trees (B.C. and Montana), but still wants to play on side-hits and keep control on ice, do think a 159 PYL Uninc would be too much of a plank for a 5'11" 170lb size 9.5 boot rider, vs the 157?
I sometimes wish my Capita Mercury was a 159 instead of a 157 for better float and more effective edge, and wonder if I'd similarly be looking for more length on a 157 PYL Uninc (while understanding that they're very different boards)
Yep 157 works very well for those specs but the 159 is manageable for your specs too. Especially if you wanted more from the 157 Mercury. If the 157 was easy for you to turn and control in tight spots then you can handle either the 157 or 159 PYL Uninc. One thing though. The PYL Uninc floats much much better than the Mercury and has much better grip so you get more out of each size.
@@thegoodridesnow Much appreciated!
Hey James, I’m trying to decide between the pyl and pyl uninc. Coming off a skeleton key 158. I’m 170lbs 5’8 and size 9 boot. I like larger boards for sure. Never had any issue with turning on the skeleton key 158. I stay mostly in trees and bomb groomers. Only issue I had with the skeleton key was it gets bounced around in that bottom of the mountain ripped up snow when I’m bombing down. Pyl I can pick up a 159 now the uninc is sold out so would have to wait till next season and I figure that should be a 157/159? I do prefer the larger boards. What you think? Get the pyl or wait for the uninc and if so which size.
Yeah the Uninc 159 could for sure work then. I think it will be a little better than the SK but not sure if it's going to be a chunder buster for ya. It is a great board and a nice change up from the SK. Has a very tapered feel in comparison though. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Any clue where I can get one? Been looking all over can’t find a 159 or 157 uninc. Much appreciated
YES doesn't make a lot of boards every season and they otten sell out quickly each year.
If you happen to hear of a shop that has one in please let me know. I don’t mind paying shipping. Thanks James
Call Gravity Sports at Mt. Bachelor. I think they have a few.
Hello, I’m French and I’m not sure what does it means when you say « you have to put more on your back foot to not get washed ». Can you please explain ? Does it mean you want your stance to be set a little more back as a reference point even for groomer ? Does « washed » mean lack of edge grip ? Thanks for clarifying !
Your english is a hell of a lot better than my french ;-) Some tapered (nose wider than the tail) need more back foot weight on a harder turn/carve to keep the tail from washing out on groomers. It's not about edge grip as much as how to weight the turn.
@@thegoodridesnow would you say it’s a dealbreaker or it’s only something you easily get used to on the first few days of riding ?
Would you say setting a bit back the stance at first would help make it easier with that back foot weight needs to get used to it ?
Something you get used to. Depends on the board but usually more back foot weight is better than setting back the stance.
@@thegoodridesnow I got 155 uninc pyl cheap as it’s the end of the season so I’ll understand next season what you mean better when I’ll get to try it. I’ll probably match it with some nitro phantom + bindings and nitro team boots :) hope everything will match together and that it won’t make the whole set up too stiff to ride.
No. It wont
how do you get yours to light up?
Put a flash light behind it.
@@thegoodridesnowlmao i thought it was lighting up by itself im like mine never did that😂😂😂
Ha! I do have some friends that shaped river surf boards and put lights in there so they can surf at night though so it's not totally out of the realm of possibility.
How do you compare these to the jones flagship?
Flagship is more straight line friendly and the PYL's are more turny.
@@thegoodridesnow Would you say the PYL Uninc is closer to Flagship?
I currently ride 155 GNU Riders Choice (2012ish model) and want an upgrade as I can start feeling the chatter with GNU at high speed (40mph+).
I'm 5'-8" 165lbs size 9 boots. Which of these three would you recommend and what size? or other board, like Banked Country?
My home mountain is Mammoth and I ride mostly (70% )groomers hard packed..
Thank you
No it is not. It is its own board. Not like the Gremlin or Flagship. If wou want speed go Flagship or Hovercraft. Those really light up on high speed runs down Coronice, Scotty's and Stump Alley.
@@thegoodridesnow Thank you, you're familiar with Mammoth, I see :)
Let me clarify my questions. Which of the two PYL is closer to flagship? Or you're saying neither of them are?
And what size do you recommend for Flagship?
@@user-fq8fe4pi8b158, flagship is designed to go big, but it depends on your riding abilities and what you want from the board
Bought the new’24 PYL Uninc in 161 based on your advice over the mind expander. Much appreciated James! It looks like the 24 is the same as the 23 just different graphics?
Thanks! Yep same board as last year. Hope you like it as much as I do.
I love the idea of the uninc, however, that design is terrible!!! I would be ashamed to ride this, looks like drug addict’s board.
😂
It looks great in my humble opinion
Then get a Burton board. They are very basic looking