Archery Coaching Case Study #6 | Refining Set-up and Pre-draw
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- In this coaching case study, Jarryd reviews a technique update from a Rogue Archery Masterclass student Rizza.
We cover some of the finer points of Set-up & Pre-draw position, and demonstrate how this integrates into the Shot Process for more stability, consistency and accuracy!
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Excellent Observation and correction. Great job coaching! Thank you. Help us all.
Thank you! What did you find most helpful?
The stance and the position of the head during the shooting circle are things that I should correct. It is difficult sometimes to see yourself. You made very precise observations, your “diagnosis “ was excellent. Wish to see more.👏👍🏹
All great advice that I could take on board with my shooting. 👍
Fantastic!
What did you learn from this video?
@@RogueArcheryTV I ve been tilting back because I putting too much empasis on the draw without balancing with a push. That's born out of my blending of the pre-draw, draw and the rotation to alignment. Based on your basic steps you've kindly posted here on YT I seperate the pre-draw from the draw and make sure I have my alignment first before proceeding further, avoiding a cascade of errors. This has cleaned up my left/rights as my draw length variations are less and there is less muscle mass involved to fatigue (no clicker, shooting Barebow). Your coaching is very clear and concise in all your case studies and the level your archers are at after such a short time frame is amazing! Now I need to focus more on loading and then keeping expansion going while aiming. That's my big issue going forward. Avoing the stop start of expansion when the float of the aim moves outside of where I m happy with it being. Thanks again for your YT channel and case studies!
my God all that time lost for so many years to practice wrong way But I will follow now Jarryd's demonstrations to progress finally, nothing is lost. Make sense!!
What's your biggest challenge?
Drop them in the comments and I'll try and address them in future case studies, or maybe you can feature in one yourself!
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I am doing similar things to the archer in this video. Too much on the draw not enough balance between push and pull causing me to put more weight on the back foot. The sight picture raises and I have to force the pin back down, compromising my bow shoulder. I ve also lost a bit of alignment and that core rotation power. I switched to a square stance after shooting open stance. I did not do foot placement consistently which caused changes to draw length.
@@skysurferboy I'm glad you got so much value out of this, I'm glad I shared it!
These are pretty normal things to work through, so keep up the good work!
Thank you and to your student for this material which demonstrated my main flaw I am struggling with, which is my alignment and when I come or fail to come into alignment. The take away from your video is working to come into alignment using the core and shoulders.
You are so good at explaining, I’m struggling with the same problems as her and now I think I have a good plan to solve it, thanks a million 👍
That's another excellent explanation of one of my issues. Thank you.
Excellent! What did you take away from this form review?
These videos are priceless! I'm very new to archery and my form and anchor aren't consistent as I'm sure it's very normal at this stage. Your explanation and video commentary are super helpful. I've watched so many other videos from different pros and got some great advice but this video series is by far the most informative I've watched yet. So detailed and it's definitely giving me more confidence going out to my next session. Keep up the brilliant work. All the best from Ireland 🇮🇪💪👍
Thanks James!
Glad you're loving the vids.
@@RogueArcheryTV would all the technique be the same for barebow? Slightly higher anchor so would the loading phase still be the same? Elbow position etc.
@@jamesGT78 mostly the same process. Differences in anchor and aiming obviously.
I have noticed that if I use rotation to align the shoulder in pre-draw, I sometime over rotate and sometimes under rotate, resulting in groups that have more left to right. If I align the shoulder before the pre-draw, my groups tighten up. This has been one thing I’ve been working on. It seams to me, if I set torso to its final position, I have been more consistent. And have noticed that some Korean archers at the highest levels complete the rotation before their pre-draw.
It seam the downside to this is more arm strength to draw the bow and maybe shoulder problems.
Seam Jay Barrs is probably not a good example of keeping the head position through the shot process. Lol
Yes, this does take some training to get constitent shoulder alignment in Pre-draw. There are a number of drills that we do to train consistency in shoulder alignment using this method, as any variance will basically destroy your ability to have good clicker control!
Rotation of the shoulders should be completed by Pre-draw, and looking at many shooting styles, there are very few exceptions to this.
One of the things to keep in mind that affects the degree of rotation through the core (thoracic rotation) is:
- Upper body mobility, and
- Shoulder width to arm length ratio
Even within the Korean team, you can see this variance. Archers like Choi Misun and Lee WooSeok have longer arms and good upper body mobility, but Kang Chae Yeong and Kim Woojin have broader shoulders and core rotation is more pronounced.
Nevertheless, they all achieve shoulder alignment from Raise to Pre-draw.
P.S. Michelle Frangilli is another exception to head movement... as well as various other things! 😉
Just watched lim in vegas during the gold medal match for indoor World Series and you can see she has no rotation. And her solders are aligned at the beginning of the draw
@@yanglai524 I just posted a clip of Lim on Facebook where you can see how she does align her shoulders to achieve Pre-draw position. She's a perfect example of this.
Have a look at the clip and let me know if you can't see it as I can do a little breakdown.
Great video
Thank you for the helpful video! You mention that the feet should maintain the sideways/outward tension. What if the ground is slippery or sandy?
I am quite new and have a lot of trouble maintaining head position when drawing because I can't get my elbow around without my hand going well past the front of my face so I need to pull my head back to wear my hand ends up. I don't know if this is because my arms are particularly long of what. I just don't get the geometry of it.
Brother please make important exercises
Que programa utilizas ?
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