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Once you have determined the 😊 value for a particular distance, you can approximate its value for other distances. This is due to the linear nature of visual scale, meaning that an object at half the distance will appear twice as large visually, while an object at twice the distance will appear half the size. ---- To convert your 😊 for different distances, use the following equation: (😊* distance 1) / distance 2. E.g. If 😊for 40m equals 1.2, then for 30m you would apply the following calculation: (1.2 * 40) / 30 = 1.6 ---- To convert for target face size, divide the 😊 by target face 1 size, and then multiply by target face 2 size: E.g. if 😊 for 30m @ 122cm equals 1.6, then 😊 for 30m @ 80cm would be calculated as follows: (1.6/122) * 80 = 1.05 These convesions are obviously based on the accuracy of your original 😊reading. However, this can give you a pretty good idea of how much to move your sight for all of your distances. Try it for yourself!
Once you have determined the 😊 value for a particular distance, you can approximate its value for other distances. This is due to the linear nature of visual scale, meaning that an object at half the distance will appear twice as large visually, while an object at twice the distance will appear half the size. ---- To convert your 😊 for different distances, use the following equation: (😊* distance 1) / distance 2. E.g. If 😊for 40m equals 1.2, then for 30m you would apply the following calculation: (1.2 * 40) / 30 = 1.6 ---- To convert for target face size, divide the 😊 by target face 1 size, and then multiply by target face 2 size: E.g. if 😊 for 30m @ 122cm equals 1.6, then 😊 for 30m @ 80cm would be calculated as follows: (1.6/122) * 80 = 1.05 These convesions are obviously based on the accuracy of your original 😊reading. However, this can give you a pretty good idea of how much to move your sight for all of your distances. Try it for yourself!
The fact that the whole process is more focused on get confident with your OWN equipment its incredible. To be an archer is not just to have stuffs but know how they work. Thx for this great video!!
Thank you very much for your lesson on how to calculate sight adjustments. Making precise sight correction adjustments always been a challenge to me. Today I tested your method and it worked perfectly to me. I have just one suggestion. Instead of counting in scale units I would suggest counting in clicks. While it doesn't change any adjustment settings, I think for some people it would be more convenient.
Awesome work. I wrote a quick spreadsheet a while back that calculates the required movement. Requires 3 bits of information, distance moved vertically per sight mark (usually 1mm), distance moved horizontally per full turn of sight pin (0.794mm on most recurve sights) and distance from pin to archers eye. Plug in those variables and it tells you exact number of turns required for each distance from 20 to 90 metres and for 122cm and 50cm faces. Works a charm. For me at 60m, I need to adjust vertically 0.97 turns to move from edge of the 10 to the dead centre and horizontally, 1.22 turns to move same amount.
That sounds like the rough "calculation" I learned: Take the distance you want to shift your group (for example 61mm = ring width of a 122 target face) and divide that by the shooting distance (for example 60m) So that is rough 1mm you have to move the sight. (For quick calculation it is 6/6=1) if you want to be more precise, multiply that with your distance from pin to archers eye. (So that is maybe 0.8m aka 0.8mm sight movement.) This calculation is independent from bow weight or arrow speed! So it also works for compound.
Great video for "free points". I've been doing this for decades but as an engineer it was perfectly logical to me that I needed this information. I do explain it when coaching but admit it isn't covered until later on. The fear is always that people "chase the gold" when their skill level is lower than their opinion of themselves and they "blame" their sight mark and keep moving it.
Hello, thank you very much for the great video! It's very useful. However, if I understand well, you mention that we can find in the comments section the conversion ratios to go from a target at n meters to a target at m meters with n and m varying. I don't see where it can be found. Many thank for your help!
These athletes are part of Archery Australia's National Pathway Program. Archery Success is embedded in that program as a training aid. It's a good value app, but honestly, you can use paper arrow plot sheets (and I do) which are completely fine, or whatever app you want.
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Once you have determined the 😊 value for a particular distance, you can approximate its value for other distances. This is due to the linear nature of visual scale, meaning that an object at half the distance will appear twice as large visually, while an object at twice the distance will appear half the size.
----
To convert your 😊 for different distances, use the following equation:
(😊* distance 1) / distance 2.
E.g. If 😊for 40m equals 1.2, then for 30m you would apply the following calculation:
(1.2 * 40) / 30 = 1.6
----
To convert for target face size, divide the 😊 by target face 1 size, and then multiply by target face 2 size:
E.g. if 😊 for 30m @ 122cm equals 1.6, then 😊 for 30m @ 80cm would be calculated as follows:
(1.6/122) * 80 = 1.05
These convesions are obviously based on the accuracy of your original 😊reading. However, this can give you a pretty good idea of how much to move your sight for all of your distances. Try it for yourself!
Once you have determined the 😊 value for a particular distance, you can approximate its value for other distances. This is due to the linear nature of visual scale, meaning that an object at half the distance will appear twice as large visually, while an object at twice the distance will appear half the size.
----
To convert your 😊 for different distances, use the following equation:
(😊* distance 1) / distance 2.
E.g. If 😊for 40m equals 1.2, then for 30m you would apply the following calculation:
(1.2 * 40) / 30 = 1.6
----
To convert for target face size, divide the 😊 by target face 1 size, and then multiply by target face 2 size:
E.g. if 😊 for 30m @ 122cm equals 1.6, then 😊 for 30m @ 80cm would be calculated as follows:
(1.6/122) * 80 = 1.05
These convesions are obviously based on the accuracy of your original 😊reading. However, this can give you a pretty good idea of how much to move your sight for all of your distances. Try it for yourself!
This was brilliant, I have been shooting for a few years and have never got these adjustments right. Thanks for making it so simple to follow
Let me know how you go with it!
The fact that the whole process is more focused on get confident with your OWN equipment its incredible. To be an archer is not just to have stuffs but know how they work. Thx for this great video!!
100% 💪
You should take each shot with supreme confidence that your sight setting is correct!
Hi, excellent video ! I've never really asked myself "how much" I had to move my sight during a competition, now I'll know exactly thank you 😊
Thank you very much for your lesson on how to calculate sight adjustments. Making precise sight correction adjustments always been a challenge to me. Today I tested your method and it worked perfectly to me. I have just one suggestion. Instead of counting in scale units I would suggest counting in clicks. While it doesn't change any adjustment settings, I think for some people it would be more convenient.
Awesome work. I wrote a quick spreadsheet a while back that calculates the required movement. Requires 3 bits of information, distance moved vertically per sight mark (usually 1mm), distance moved horizontally per full turn of sight pin (0.794mm on most recurve sights) and distance from pin to archers eye. Plug in those variables and it tells you exact number of turns required for each distance from 20 to 90 metres and for 122cm and 50cm faces. Works a charm. For me at 60m, I need to adjust vertically 0.97 turns to move from edge of the 10 to the dead centre and horizontally, 1.22 turns to move same amount.
Yes that's a great way of doing it!
Would you be prepared to share your spreadsheet with me?
Hi Jarryd. Semt you an email.@@RogueArcheryTV
That sounds like the rough "calculation" I learned:
Take the distance you want to shift your group (for example 61mm = ring width of a 122 target face) and divide that by the shooting distance (for example 60m) So that is rough 1mm you have to move the sight. (For quick calculation it is 6/6=1)
if you want to be more precise, multiply that with your distance from pin to archers eye. (So that is maybe 0.8m aka 0.8mm sight movement.)
This calculation is independent from bow weight or arrow speed! So it also works for compound.
Great video for "free points". I've been doing this for decades but as an engineer it was perfectly logical to me that I needed this information. I do explain it when coaching but admit it isn't covered until later on. The fear is always that people "chase the gold" when their skill level is lower than their opinion of themselves and they "blame" their sight mark and keep moving it.
Thank you 🙏 ❤
Hello, thank you very much for the great video! It's very useful. However, if I understand well, you mention that we can find in the comments section the conversion ratios to go from a target at n meters to a target at m meters with n and m varying. I don't see where it can be found. Many thank for your help!
I've just pinned a comment explaining this process!
@@RogueArcheryTVThank you 👍
Thank you, is this for compound bows too?
Yes! Works exactly the same for compound and recurve.
It is, however, slightly different for barebow and longbow...
This looks like it is for recurve shooters....would this work for compound shooters?
Yes, its exactly the same for compound archers!
The app you mentioned Archery success...is there a reason you use this paid app over comparable free apps?
These athletes are part of Archery Australia's National Pathway Program. Archery Success is embedded in that program as a training aid.
It's a good value app, but honestly, you can use paper arrow plot sheets (and I do) which are completely fine, or whatever app you want.
Yeah, it can be tricky.
How much to move 😕