Shaqstheman000 i like this comment because i remember hearing how christopher nolan said he thought the dark knight trilogy should be, the story isnt about batman its about bruce wayne and him being batman.
@@ERIN_198 But you completely missing the point here lol. All those people who liked the post understood without caring how he spelt it. Capito? Buongiorno signor Erin, dell'italia.
It's important to remember that Superman has 3 identities: "Superman", "Kal-el", and "Clark Kent". Of those 3, "Clark Kent" is unquestionably the most important because THAT IS WHO HE REALLY IS. He is Clark Kent, the son of Jonathan and Martha Kent who gave him his spiritual and moral groundings. The greatest loss Clark ever felt was the death of his father, Jonathan Kent. NOT Jor-el. Jor-el was "Kal-el's" young-adult mentor who could only build on the foundations that Martha and Jonathan had laid down, like a college professor or tradesman apprenticing a new student. And finally, "Superman" is the least important identity of the three, as it is a public alias given to him by Lois Lane. This is why the latest actors and producers who've tried to portray Superman have come up short; they keep trying to portray the grandeur that is "Superman", or the "Alien" identity that is "Kal-el" but have debased the American ideal that is "Clark Kent" (out of crass political correctness) who is the core of Superman's identity - because it is his TRUE identity. There is one important scene in the movie where Jonathan has a heart-to-heart with his son, Clark (played Jeff East and voiced over by Reeves). Jonathan alludes to a higher calling and even God, trying to give his son guidance right before a heart-attack suddenly takes him from a grieving Clark and Martha. This moment becomes the deciding factor in the final moments of the movie when "Superman" has to choose to either saving Lois, or obey Kal-el's dictate that he not interfere in human history (which Clark does literally, by turning back time to change history).
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Terry Kain umm, except in Donner movies Superman is showned to PRETEND to be that goofy and awkward Clark Kent, which was never a thing in comics or cartoons. There is no political correctness (really?) in that Zack Snyder portrayed Superman and Clark Kent way it was meant by his creators Siegel and Schuster. An assimilated immigrant. Also you call new Superman an "alien" (which is not true, as Superman in Man of Steel himself says "I grew up in Kansas, it's as American as it gets"). Meanwhile Donner movie (which is The Movie and II as it was originally meant to be one movie in two parts) portrays him as a God that puts up a weak human as disguise and later tries to abandon his powers to become human (and fails). A God that can control death itself if he wants it.
The best description, from Supes himself, is "Clark Kent is who I am, Superman is what I can do." Yes the whole "Clark is Superman pretending to be 'human'" bit was how it was portrayed in the Silver Age, but since then, it's been the other way around, and often used to contrast Batman, where it's more often shown that Batman is the 'real' persona, while Bruce Wayne is the mask.
As well as the obvious difference shown in this scene (The changing voice, the straightened back, the change in language and assertiveness) if you compare pictures of reeve's clark kent with his superman, they actually do look different. When clark smiles, for example, the way he kinda raises only one side of his mouth shows that sense of awkwardness, while superman smiles with a sort of confidence in his expression. The glasses also do more than just cover the area around his eyes. They actually make the eyes look slightly bigger, which alters perception of facial structure between the two identities and distracts attention from other areas like his defined jawline. Now i doubt the original creators thought this much bout his identity but Reeve and the team behind the movies certainly did a fantastic job at making sure to clearly separate the identities
One of the things about Superman is that he could have used actual vision-correcting lenses to alter the appearance of his eyes and further throw off his identity, because he could use his telescopic/microscopic vision powers to compensate for the distortion.
@@RichardX1 But he'd rather keep his senses at full strength, so he can detect danger the second it appears, than marginally increase the effectiveness of a disguise that already works.
I agree, World Breaker. I'm not a fan of the Snyderverse, but I can't blame Cavill, Affleck, or any of the other actors for just doing what the script tells them. I blame the ones writing the scripts and coming up with the ideas behind it, but not the cast.
I appreciate what Man of Steel tried to do, and I do like the movie overall, but it does have a lot of flaws. Haven't seen BvS, but want to see it just to see how bad it is.
Close. They're both two sides of what makes him him. Each side requires a little acting. He's really himself when he's home in Smallville, which shows both sides in one man.
Clark Kent is his real identity; the child raised by Martha and Jonathan, his spiritual parents who gave him the moral and virtuous groundings. It is the true identity of the "Man of Steel". The other parts of Clark's identity are "Kal-el" and "Superman". As Kal-el, he is the biological son of Jo-Rel, who became his senior mentor and built on the moral foundation laid by his American parents. "Superman", the third identity is just an alias (created by Lois Lane) - it's like a stage-name for an actor in public press releases (actually, that's exactly what the "Superman" moniker is) - and it's probably the least important identity of the three.
The glasses are Kryptonian crystal that block the heat from his eyes, dimming his eyes to appear more human and also causing a hypnotic affect that morphs Superman's face into Clark Kent. All references are within the superman comic books.
It's how he slumps his shoulders and the nasal voice as Kent. Christopher Reeve was the best Superman in my opinion. He played the ying and yang of Kent and Superman perfectly.
I've always enjoyed the idea that Superman actually has three identities. A mild mannered reporter who keeps his nose down and awkwardly lugs from locale-to-locale, timid and vulnerable, and almost absurdly kind. a figure of heroic importance and incorruptible principles, more myth than man, a worldly ideal that inspires us all and I like to think that both of them are facades, or more acurately, the extreme ends of his true self, the third 'identity', the adopted son from Smallville who is certain of his conviction and dedication to good, aware of his power and influence in the world, but still timid and uncertain in his pursuit of happiness. I think, between 0:29 and 0:45 (right before he dons his second, more confident identity), we see that man. And he's the reason why I'll always love Superman.
Agreed. I think too many adaptations fail to notice that both Superman and reporter Clark are just disguises for the real Clark/Kal-El. It's too bad MoS focused a little too much on him developing the "Superman" identity and too little on the development of real, genuine Clark. MoS had that "you are my son" scene; why couldn't we get more scenes like that?
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் Exactly. Bruce Wayne being the "mask" is an oversimplification. It works as shorthand if you refer to Bruce as just the uncaring irresponsible playboy but in actuality there's more to him than obsession, vengeance or justice. The real Bruce Wayne is the man who took the Robins in, who fights to make sure no other child experiences the pain he did. He's also the one who funds free clinics, soup kitchens, orphanages and Arkham Asylum and does his best to reform criminals, even giving some of them jobs.
This was an absolutely BRILLIANT moment. At 0:30 you can SEE when he stops being Clark Kent, and becomes Superman. Reeves managed that transition better than ANY actor ever has.
The John Williams Superman theme helped, too. But the fact is this movie's tagline of "you will believe a man can fly" doesn't do justice tithe other aspect: you will believe a man can get away with just a pair of glasses as a disguise!
I think this scene shows what the current franchise's films lack. Superman is not my favourite superhero, but Reeves manages to portray him as the hero of humanity, bright like the sun. Not sure if it's the current actor's fault or it's the directors, but in Man of Steel he looks like some sort of scary demigod with no human side.
To be fair... Man of Steel has Superman dealing with darker issues and putting on actual pressures... And the lighting of the movie is so freakin depressing... Snyder is just too focused on all the awesome bad ass parts.. that's the issue... Just a bunch of awesome things that could make a perfect movie... but it's just a bunch of awesome things that could make a perfect movie..... and in the end, it just lacks the essence of Superman himself...
Gotta keep in mind that Man of Steel is happening at the same time that Clark Kent is just learning how to be a hero with powers. He doesn't know how to BE Superman quite yet.
KingOfKingz819 That wasn't the problem though. It wasn't really the Superman character most people had issues with. Many people understood that he was just starting to be Superman. But he wasn't given good lines or any happy moments. How often did he even properly smile? Most dialogue between him and other people felt stale. He didn't really feel alive even when alone.
+TheDeathmail in terms of the story the DCEU is telling, he was still finding that in himself. He's not the symbol of hope that he turns into yet in Man of Steel. In BvS, he's more established, but he's again facing an internal battle over whether he needs to be Superman and he has to go to Ma for guidance and then has the dream about Pa that also gives him advice. He eventually concludes that he does needs to be just that because Earth is his world now. It's all been a journey for Superman to actually grow into becoming Superman. He will be the Superman we all know and love when he returns in Justice League and the future DCEU films. That's where his story is heading.
KingOfKingz819 Again, that wasn't the main problem. It was that the story wasn't told very well. Snyder is too focused on the awesome parts and not the story. Also, using the depressing coloring doesn't work. Yes, the issues he's dealing with are depressing, but that coloring of the films didn't fit very well. Also, the way the characters became. They were kinda stale and not very good. Clark's dad didn't often sound like a dad, and Lois... she started off interesting, but then became obsessed about how Superman was the hope of the world and what not. The back story in random order didn't work. Also, in BvS, they didn't even fight that often and the reason for the battle felt too forced. Also, Luther felt too much like a Joker. And the list could go on and on. DC had lots of awesome and beautiful scenes, but they didn't add that great of a movie. It felt incoherent and mashed together. In fact, BvS actually took a lot from multiple Superman and Batman stories, not just one or 2....
Evo if he hadn’t ended up like he did, he could have been one of the best actors in history. In every single role he portrayed he had incredible acting, even changing his own anatomy on his volunteer way. Even after the accident he did some pretty awesome performances
What a difference a change in body language, posture, voice, and yes, lack of glasses, can do. On the set of the movie, even some of the actors and production crew thought Clark and Supes were being played by two different guys. Christopher Reeve was THAT good.
Yeah I'm gonna need sauce on that one. No way they thought the guy table reading, rehearsing, and literally playing superman and clark kent were two different people Edit: not to say anything against Reeve- he's perfect. But i mean come on man that's just silly.
Yeah, people joke about the glasses but a simple little thing can make a big difference in a person's appearance. Plus, Reeve slouched his shoulders and even made his face a little slack to make "Clark" look more doughy than muscular. You really do see a difference between Clark and Superman.
I mean Henry Cavill wanted to see how effective this was so he literally stood in times square for a few hours with the disguise on while his face was plastered on billboards advertising the movie and no one recognized him
I was going to fire back something like "yeah, but people wouldn't expect the random hot guy in the street to be that one Hollywood star" but then it hit me that that's exactly the trick with Clark/Supes as well. You see Clark out and about, maybe you think for a second "huh, is that Superman?" and then immediately "hah, nah, what'd Superman be doing here among the little people?" then push the silly thought away, move on with your day, and forget minutes later.
Really easy to see how the disguise works here. Look at 0:25 and 0:30. As Superman, he looks taller, more broad-shouldered, more confident, and the glasses change the outline of his face, and that's without even changing his actual outfit. Of course, it takes an actor like Christopher Reeve to pull it off, too. He manages to make those glasses look natural (despite being large, even comically so).
Henry Cavil looks great as superman but Christopher has the better acting chops it's a clear difference between how he played Clark and Superman can't won't see that with Henry's portrayals
I love this scene so much because it demonstrates the way Christopher Reeves made the duel persona of Superman so believable. The change of tone in his voice, the wide-eyed, bewildered expression into a confident glare and the small but noticable change in posture. A skillfully subtle transformation. He was amazing. The greatest Superman ever.
One of the things that made Christopher Reeve the quintessential Superman, besides the physicality and personality he brought to the role was that he separated Clark Kent and Superman as identities. He could make Clark Kent seem more legitimate as "not Superman" by the way he hunched, the way he moved, the way he talked, beyond merely the glasses.
This is a 60 second master class in acting. Margot Kidder is fumbling around the scene, but Christopher Reeve nails it. One second he's "Clark Kent" (the nerd he created to fool the world), then he straightens his back and becomes the real Clark Kent, then he breathes in and becomes Superman...before slipping back into his secret identity within another second. Brilliant.
That is a brilliant take on things. Reeve understood the core of the Superman character, which meant knowing which of his 3 identities was acting through the other ones.
I wouldn't say that Kidder was fumbling around in the scene. She was in a stupor as this scene took place just after her flight with Superman, hence why Clark initially motions to her if she has been on the sauce. This also explains why she didn't see 'him' when she reappeared moments later. But yes, Reeve was outstanding here.
This scene fucking sold me. Just how a man’s simple demeanor can change their entire person. It’s...amazing. Also, can we appreciate how he went back to Clark so fast, quite a nervous little man!
one thing i loved about the old movies is the duality of the clark kent superman identity thing . having louis know who clark is ruins the film for me, we lose superman s awkwardness around women, the humanity- and a lot of humour.
One of the best parts of Man of Steel is that it made a point of how - especially in the modern age - a skilled investigator like Lois CAN figure out that Superman and Clark Kent are the same man.
She didn't figure it out, his secret was revealed to her as soon as they met! I would have liked if Lois did figure it out despite his efforts, but that's not what happened in Man of Steel.
It's not just glasses. It's a different posture. It's a deeper, more confident voice. It's that certain, friendly smile. It's a more relaxed attitude. Clark Kent and Superman really do seem like different people.
This scene also wouldn't be as great without Williams' stellar composition. His uplifting strings, magical chimes, and triumphant brass instruments are as much a part of the Superman experience as Reeve's tremendous acting.
No one before or since has brought Superman to life as good as Christopher Reeve did. This scene represents some of the finest acting ever seen in a superhero role. Reeve shows why he is the greatest Superman of them all: he slides from Clark Kent to Superman and back with such wonderful skill and sincerity, making the performance BOTH a dual identity and different sides of the same identity. A super scene from a super film. God bless.
Even after all these years, nearly 23 for me, this scene makes me smile from ear to ear. Christopher Reeve was an absolute genius. The subtle changes i.e. straightening his back slighty, changing his speech patterns and tone, broadening the shoulders... This scene is still fucking incredible ❤
Damn he did more with a a subtle movement of his posture than I think i could pull of with a full wardrobe change, some actors out there are so damn amazing.
I heard that the producers had narrowed down their choice for Superman to two big-name actors (Burt Reynolds and Warren Beatty) and two unknowns. Chris Reeve was one of those unknowns. In the end, they decided by having each actor put on the Clark Kent glasses. When they looked at Reeve, they said, "That's Clark Kent!". But, at the time, Reeve was too skinny so they were going to have him wear foam padding fake muscles. He worked out for the next 3 months to put on about 20 pounds of muscle and transformed himself into Superman.
RIP Burt Reynolds :( Just this week. Trying to picture either of those guys as Supes and it doesn't go well. The mustache... Cavill brought it back, but still. I think either Reynolds or Beatty would have been better as Bond than as Superman.
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you Clark Kent: the greatest thespian of all time. Able to fool the whole world with just a single prop: a pair of glasses!
Once you see this scene, you'll never question the effectiveness of the glasses as a disguise again. God DAMN Christopher Reeve was a masterful actor! He takes the glasses off and literally _grows three inches._ And then when he speaks, you wonder where the hell Clark Kent went.
Really shows how in addition to your delivery, pitch and movement, there's also body language, your expressions and different postures are also sometimes integral to your acting tools!
Anyone else always get surprised when he suddenly gains 4 freakin inches. The transformation is always a treat to watch. No wonder I get so disappointed when I watch the new Superman.
I know he meant the Drunk motion, but Reeve's thumb and finger were too close to his mouth when it should have been the circle it made. To put it lightly, it made Clark inadvertently accuse Lois of being high rather than drunk.
I know there are people who are unrecognisable when they remove their glasses. One of them is the famous Elton John. I can't recognise him without his glasses on. The same goes to superman. His disguise is hypnotizing to people around him.
It's not just the glasses, it's the voice, the posture, the mannerisms, the body language. Nobody would look at Clark Kent and even think he could be possibly be Superman. Plus, Superman doesn't wear a mask so who would guess he would use a secret identity? They probably just think he's Superman 24/7.
YAY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHRISTOPHER REEVE!!!! I miss him. :,( He was such an inspiration to our lives. They impacted mine. So Hater? Lol uh No Thanks!!! ;) Not trying to NOT like Henry Cavil's Superman but, Christopher Reeve is way better!!! Ps my OPINION y'all!!! But Henry can't make Superman happen like Christopher Reeve did!!! ;) Beep I ignore haters beep beep beep beep!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
The main difference is that Christopher Reeve, his appearance, personality and most importantly, character was pretty much as close to Superman as anyone can be. Decent, honorable, righteous, humble and gentle. To me, Cavill just doesn't capture these values very well. And then on top of this the way the new movies try to make the character more complicated is just a huge mistake. In one of the early interviews Reeve gave about his portrayal of the role (you can find it on RUclips) he says something like "Superman, because of his powers, is able to see the world very very simply and be a force for good". This statement captures the essence of Superman perfectly - because of his powers he doesn't need to see the world in shades of grey like us mere mortals but he can see it in black and white... or in other words, he can pursue ideals. So, as a 20-something year old actor, he understood this and that is what makes his portrayal of Superman so genuine and great. Cavill and Snyder just don't understand this aspect of the character which is why their movies feel hollow.
Watching other actor: "Haha, you just have to have fun and suspend disbelief that nobody realizes they're the same person." Watching Christopher Reeve: "I legitimately can't believe they're the same person despite literally knowing they are."
He does. Note that he chickens out, gets nervous and ducks back behind his glasses *before* getting fully back into character. Clark Kent is played up, but it's also a part of who he is.
I actually thought he was good as Superman but AMAZING as Clark. Was sorry about the semi-creepy take on the character they gave him (hanging around Lois' pad, lonely and lovelorn, while Lois and Richard and THE KID had gone on without him). HATED that take on Lois. Didn't like Bosworth in the role at all, and Richard as a character is such a good, wonderful guy - Superman without the powers, really - that what chance does Clark ever have with Lois unless Richard dies (in which case he'll likely be a martyr and Lois will worship him forever)?
This is my all time favorite movie. But I do have to ask. How was Clark going to finish that sentence? He wasn't given the moniker of Superman yet. Lois, there's something I have to tell you. I'm really...the guy you just flew around with a few minutes ago?
Just look at the transformation. In a split second he goes from Clark to Superman. Not just the glasses, facial expression, body posture...Reeve is the only one who made it believable. It's remarkable how he changes before our eyes.
That gesture he makes when he says "Let's, uh, push off shall we" (up, up & away) is a subtle hint to his true identity which he probably wouldn't have done if he wasn't subconsciously wanting to reveal his identity to Lois, he only realizes he's letting his metaphorical mask slip when he removes his glasses, then remembers the reason he's keeping his secret identity. Brilliant.
Amazing how his posture and voice changed in a matter of seconds. Though I really liked the performances of Tom Welling and Henry Cavill, Reeve could manage to improvise naturally, and that’s what makes a good actor.
This is why Christopher Reeve is THE live-action Superman, to which all others must be judged. Just the subtle changes in the voices and body language...he was just so fucking good.
Jeez it's just amazing! A simple change in posture, a pair of glasses and a change in octave and suddenly he's a completely different person! When someone says Superman's secret identity is lame, they clearly have not seen Christopher Reeve's incredible performance here, showcasing exactly how and why Superman's disguise is probably the best of all the superheroes.
What if Clark Kent an Superman are in fact to different people ? Clark Kent is the moral good person an Kal El is the powers? Superman is 3 people in one, he splits his personalitys to create different people. Clark Kent in the news room, Superman then as they combined in one, its Clark Kent around his loved ones.
Love the posture but the way the glasses transform to being a part of him, to being some strange object that is not connected to him, to being a part of him again, is excellent too. Glasses are personal items and you treat a pair of glasses completely differently when they are yours or not yours.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how nobody realizes that Clark Kent is Superman.
So does everyone knew Superman is Clark in BvS?
@Frag Wall: Bad writing.
Here, just the ladies.
He tranforms into a beta male?
@@luisalonso959 No!
Superb acting. Really sells the modern concept of people not seeing how Clark Kent is Superman.
+Shaqstheman000 Totally!!
Shaqstheman000 I get Superman now. Thank you
Shaqstheman000 i like this comment because i remember hearing how christopher nolan said he thought the dark knight trilogy should be, the story isnt about batman its about bruce wayne and him being batman.
And no actor has been able to portray that duality as convincingly since.
Shaqstheman000 tako i za supergirl kako ne mogu vidjeti sličnosti
That transformation is incredibly subtle, but surprisingly effective. I mean, the way Reeves does it, it's almost some T-1000 stuff.
Erik Warberg for crying out loud..it's reeve not reeves
+Erin Sandwell
Everyone knew exactly what he meant, he has got 451 Likes without anyone complaining about the "Reeves" thing except you.
@@Peter_1986 lol 451 likes is not that much
@@ERIN_198 But you completely missing the point here lol. All those people who liked the post understood without caring how he spelt it. Capito? Buongiorno signor Erin, dell'italia.
The Alexander Technique in action! He was a well known student of the work. Awesome stuff :)
You will believe a man can act.
HAHAHAHAHA
Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. Not very good at equestrian sports.
It's important to remember that Superman has 3 identities: "Superman", "Kal-el", and "Clark Kent". Of those 3, "Clark Kent" is unquestionably the most important because THAT IS WHO HE REALLY IS. He is Clark Kent, the son of Jonathan and Martha Kent who gave him his spiritual and moral groundings. The greatest loss Clark ever felt was the death of his father, Jonathan Kent. NOT Jor-el. Jor-el was "Kal-el's" young-adult mentor who could only build on the foundations that Martha and Jonathan had laid down, like a college professor or tradesman apprenticing a new student. And finally, "Superman" is the least important identity of the three, as it is a public alias given to him by Lois Lane. This is why the latest actors and producers who've tried to portray Superman have come up short; they keep trying to portray the grandeur that is "Superman", or the "Alien" identity that is "Kal-el" but have debased the American ideal that is "Clark Kent" (out of crass political correctness) who is the core of Superman's identity - because it is his TRUE identity. There is one important scene in the movie where Jonathan has a heart-to-heart with his son, Clark (played Jeff East and voiced over by Reeves). Jonathan alludes to a higher calling and even God, trying to give his son guidance right before a heart-attack suddenly takes him from a grieving Clark and Martha. This moment becomes the deciding factor in the final moments of the movie when "Superman" has to choose to either saving Lois, or obey Kal-el's dictate that he not interfere in human history (which Clark does literally, by turning back time to change history).
Terry Kain umm, except in Donner movies Superman is showned to PRETEND to be that goofy and awkward Clark Kent, which was never a thing in comics or cartoons. There is no political correctness (really?) in that Zack Snyder portrayed Superman and Clark Kent way it was meant by his creators Siegel and Schuster. An assimilated immigrant.
Also you call new Superman an "alien" (which is not true, as Superman in Man of Steel himself says "I grew up in Kansas, it's as American as it gets"). Meanwhile Donner movie (which is The Movie and II as it was originally meant to be one movie in two parts) portrays him as a God that puts up a weak human as disguise and later tries to abandon his powers to become human (and fails). A God that can control death itself if he wants it.
The best description, from Supes himself, is "Clark Kent is who I am, Superman is what I can do."
Yes the whole "Clark is Superman pretending to be 'human'" bit was how it was portrayed in the Silver Age, but since then, it's been the other way around, and often used to contrast Batman, where it's more often shown that Batman is the 'real' persona, while Bruce Wayne is the mask.
As well as the obvious difference shown in this scene (The changing voice, the straightened back, the change in language and assertiveness) if you compare pictures of reeve's clark kent with his superman, they actually do look different. When clark smiles, for example, the way he kinda raises only one side of his mouth shows that sense of awkwardness, while superman smiles with a sort of confidence in his expression. The glasses also do more than just cover the area around his eyes. They actually make the eyes look slightly bigger, which alters perception of facial structure between the two identities and distracts attention from other areas like his defined jawline. Now i doubt the original creators thought this much bout his identity but Reeve and the team behind the movies certainly did a fantastic job at making sure to clearly separate the identities
NoAwesomeness Smart points. Makes me appreciate the movie even more
One of the things about Superman is that he could have used actual vision-correcting lenses to alter the appearance of his eyes and further throw off his identity, because he could use his telescopic/microscopic vision powers to compensate for the distortion.
@@RichardX1 But he'd rather keep his senses at full strength, so he can detect danger the second it appears, than marginally increase the effectiveness of a disguise that already works.
Yes, it's the facial expression. He managed to actually change his face. It's more than glasses. Reeve's performance was amazing.
amazing actor
0:26 Full-on Clark Kent.
0:31 Full-on Superman.
Now THAT is some acting.
Cavil can never match Reeve"s acting.
+tdevil101 he's a good actor, the problem was the script. And the setting.
Cavil is awful
I agree, World Breaker. I'm not a fan of the Snyderverse, but I can't blame Cavill, Affleck, or any of the other actors for just doing what the script tells them. I blame the ones writing the scripts and coming up with the ideas behind it, but not the cast.
I appreciate what Man of Steel tried to do, and I do like the movie overall, but it does have a lot of flaws. Haven't seen BvS, but want to see it just to see how bad it is.
Christopher reeve shows you how Clark Kent can hide in plain sight with glasses and slouching.
loganbdh Christopher Reeves plays Superman disguised as Clark Kent. Clark is his false identity.
Close. They're both two sides of what makes him him. Each side requires a little acting. He's really himself when he's home in Smallville, which shows both sides in one man.
Don't forget about the timid voice. Listen to it change at 0:45.
Clark Kent is his real identity; the child raised by Martha and Jonathan, his spiritual parents who gave him the moral and virtuous groundings. It is the true identity of the "Man of Steel". The other parts of Clark's identity are "Kal-el" and "Superman". As Kal-el, he is the biological son of Jo-Rel, who became his senior mentor and built on the moral foundation laid by his American parents. "Superman", the third identity is just an alias (created by Lois Lane) - it's like a stage-name for an actor in public press releases (actually, that's exactly what the "Superman" moniker is) - and it's probably the least important identity of the three.
Terry- Ummmmm shut it. You're killin my buzz.
there is more to Superman's "Clark Kent" disguise than just the glasses. and he shows that perfectly.
MY COMMENT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. WOOPS!
superghost6 Lame.
Flint Ironstagg
Hmm, I must have replied to the wrong comment... this makes no sense
The glasses are Kryptonian crystal that block the heat from his eyes, dimming his eyes to appear more human and also causing a hypnotic affect that morphs Superman's face into Clark Kent. All references are within the superman comic books.
Is this in John Byrne's run?
It's how he slumps his shoulders and the nasal voice as Kent. Christopher Reeve was the best Superman in my opinion. He played the ying and yang of Kent and Superman perfectly.
I've always enjoyed the idea that Superman actually has three identities.
A mild mannered reporter who keeps his nose down and awkwardly lugs from locale-to-locale, timid and vulnerable, and almost absurdly kind.
a figure of heroic importance and incorruptible principles, more myth than man, a worldly ideal that inspires us all
and I like to think that both of them are facades, or more acurately, the extreme ends of his true self, the third 'identity', the adopted son from Smallville who is certain of his conviction and dedication to good, aware of his power and influence in the world, but still timid and uncertain in his pursuit of happiness.
I think, between 0:29 and 0:45 (right before he dons his second, more confident identity), we see that man. And he's the reason why I'll always love Superman.
Agreed. I think too many adaptations fail to notice that both Superman and reporter Clark are just disguises for the real Clark/Kal-El. It's too bad MoS focused a little too much on him developing the "Superman" identity and too little on the development of real, genuine Clark. MoS had that "you are my son" scene; why couldn't we get more scenes like that?
@@quillion3rdoption
Exactly.
Basically just like how there is a "Playboy/Social Bruce Wayne" "Batman" and "Actual Bruce Wayne".
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் Exactly. Bruce Wayne being the "mask" is an oversimplification. It works as shorthand if you refer to Bruce as just the uncaring irresponsible playboy but in actuality there's more to him than obsession, vengeance or justice. The real Bruce Wayne is the man who took the Robins in, who fights to make sure no other child experiences the pain he did. He's also the one who funds free clinics, soup kitchens, orphanages and Arkham Asylum and does his best to reform criminals, even giving some of them jobs.
Superman and Batman can only truly be themselves among people who know about their respective dual identities.
This was an absolutely BRILLIANT moment. At 0:30 you can SEE when he stops being Clark Kent, and becomes Superman. Reeves managed that transition better than ANY actor ever has.
The look he gave after he took those glasses off.......I was like...........WOW.
The John Williams Superman theme helped, too. But the fact is this movie's tagline of "you will believe a man can fly" doesn't do justice tithe other aspect: you will believe a man can get away with just a pair of glasses as a disguise!
And at 0:45 you can HEAR it.
*reeve
Absolute facts
Rest in peace Christopher Reeve, he will always be Superman in my eyes
+zxepyonzx Same with me. Other do Superman well but Reeve's version won't be forgotten!
+zxepyonzx The man just NAILED it.
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I think this scene shows what the current franchise's films lack. Superman is not my favourite superhero, but Reeves manages to portray him as the hero of humanity, bright like the sun. Not sure if it's the current actor's fault or it's the directors, but in Man of Steel he looks like some sort of scary demigod with no human side.
To be fair... Man of Steel has Superman dealing with darker issues and putting on actual pressures...
And the lighting of the movie is so freakin depressing...
Snyder is just too focused on all the awesome bad ass parts.. that's the issue...
Just a bunch of awesome things that could make a perfect movie... but it's just a bunch of awesome things that could make a perfect movie..... and in the end, it just lacks the essence of Superman himself...
Gotta keep in mind that Man of Steel is happening at the same time that Clark Kent is just learning how to be a hero with powers. He doesn't know how to BE Superman quite yet.
KingOfKingz819 That wasn't the problem though.
It wasn't really the Superman character most people had issues with. Many people understood that he was just starting to be Superman.
But he wasn't given good lines or any happy moments.
How often did he even properly smile? Most dialogue between him and other people felt stale.
He didn't really feel alive even when alone.
+TheDeathmail in terms of the story the DCEU is telling, he was still finding that in himself. He's not the symbol of hope that he turns into yet in Man of Steel. In BvS, he's more established, but he's again facing an internal battle over whether he needs to be Superman and he has to go to Ma for guidance and then has the dream about Pa that also gives him advice. He eventually concludes that he does needs to be just that because Earth is his world now. It's all been a journey for Superman to actually grow into becoming Superman.
He will be the Superman we all know and love when he returns in Justice League and the future DCEU films. That's where his story is heading.
KingOfKingz819 Again, that wasn't the main problem.
It was that the story wasn't told very well.
Snyder is too focused on the awesome parts and not the story.
Also, using the depressing coloring doesn't work. Yes, the issues he's dealing with are depressing, but that coloring of the films didn't fit very well.
Also, the way the characters became. They were kinda stale and not very good. Clark's dad didn't often sound like a dad, and Lois... she started off interesting, but then became obsessed about how Superman was the hope of the world and what not.
The back story in random order didn't work.
Also, in BvS, they didn't even fight that often and the reason for the battle felt too forced. Also, Luther felt too much like a Joker.
And the list could go on and on.
DC had lots of awesome and beautiful scenes, but they didn't add that great of a movie. It felt incoherent and mashed together.
In fact, BvS actually took a lot from multiple Superman and Batman stories, not just one or 2....
Christopher Reeve was an absolutely incredible actor.
Thanks :)
That tends to be possible when you attend Juilliard. He and Robin Williams were accepted together in 1973.
Evo if he hadn’t ended up like he did, he could have been one of the best actors in history. In every single role he portrayed he had incredible acting, even changing his own anatomy on his volunteer way. Even after the accident he did some pretty awesome performances
Zack Snyder was so concerned with the "Super" part that he forgot about the "Man" part.
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What a difference a change in body language, posture, voice, and yes, lack of glasses, can do. On the set of the movie, even some of the actors and production crew thought Clark and Supes were being played by two different guys. Christopher Reeve was THAT good.
Did they really? I've always known Reeve was great at how he portrayed Clark and Superman, but I've never heard THAT!
wildcatxmgr Off course not, that would be really fucking silly
PhiGuy1717 pure absolutely right. It's never been just the glasses, but the postures the body language etc. Reeves, Cain... all of them
Absolute bullshit
Yeah I'm gonna need sauce on that one. No way they thought the guy table reading, rehearsing, and literally playing superman and clark kent were two different people
Edit: not to say anything against Reeve- he's perfect. But i mean come on man that's just silly.
That was cute as fuck. Great actor. Great performance.
And that's why nobody knows Clark Kent is Superman.
Yeah, people joke about the glasses but a simple little thing can make a big difference in a person's appearance. Plus, Reeve slouched his shoulders and even made his face a little slack to make "Clark" look more doughy than muscular. You really do see a difference between Clark and Superman.
auntydale what's amazing is that it's all in one take without any sort of makeup or camera tricks.
@@auntydale Don't forget the hairstyle and voice.
I mean Henry Cavill wanted to see how effective this was so he literally stood in times square for a few hours with the disguise on while his face was plastered on billboards advertising the movie and no one recognized him
@Zach T True
I was going to fire back something like "yeah, but people wouldn't expect the random hot guy in the street to be that one Hollywood star" but then it hit me that that's exactly the trick with Clark/Supes as well.
You see Clark out and about, maybe you think for a second "huh, is that Superman?" and then immediately "hah, nah, what'd Superman be doing here among the little people?" then push the silly thought away, move on with your day, and forget minutes later.
0:29 is a brilliant moment - the whole shape of his body transforms
Men, let's make a favor to ourselves, and show the world the superman inside of us all. 💪
Really easy to see how the disguise works here. Look at 0:25 and 0:30. As Superman, he looks taller, more broad-shouldered, more confident, and the glasses change the outline of his face, and that's without even changing his actual outfit.
Of course, it takes an actor like Christopher Reeve to pull it off, too. He manages to make those glasses look natural (despite being large, even comically so).
Some great acting here from the wonderful Reeve! And boy oh boy was he tall, dark and handsome!
Sarcastic Sugar dark where? he's white af
Dark hair. Duh.
THAT WAS A CLOSE ONE
LOLLLL
Henry Cavil looks great as superman but Christopher has the better acting chops it's a clear difference between how he played Clark and Superman can't won't see that with Henry's portrayals
I love this scene so much because it demonstrates the way Christopher Reeves made the duel persona of Superman so believable. The change of tone in his voice, the wide-eyed, bewildered expression into a confident glare and the small but noticable change in posture. A skillfully subtle transformation. He was amazing. The greatest Superman ever.
not so small the guy grown easily three inches in front of you :O
This is the superman I know and love.
One of the things that made Christopher Reeve the quintessential Superman, besides the physicality and personality he brought to the role was that he separated Clark Kent and Superman as identities. He could make Clark Kent seem more legitimate as "not Superman" by the way he hunched, the way he moved, the way he talked, beyond merely the glasses.
There's more pathos in this than the entirety of the DC cinematic universe so far...
Clark Kent: shy, awkward.
Kal-El/superman: self-assured, serious.
Christopher Reeve: could play both with only changing voice tone and body gestures.
This is a 60 second master class in acting. Margot Kidder is fumbling around the scene, but Christopher Reeve nails it. One second he's "Clark Kent" (the nerd he created to fool the world), then he straightens his back and becomes the real Clark Kent, then he breathes in and becomes Superman...before slipping back into his secret identity within another second. Brilliant.
That is a brilliant take on things. Reeve understood the core of the Superman character, which meant knowing which of his 3 identities was acting through the other ones.
I wouldn't say that Kidder was fumbling around in the scene. She was in a stupor as this scene took place just after her flight with Superman, hence why Clark initially motions to her if she has been on the sauce. This also explains why she didn't see 'him' when she reappeared moments later. But yes, Reeve was outstanding here.
This scene fucking sold me. Just how a man’s simple demeanor can change their entire person. It’s...amazing. Also, can we appreciate how he went back to Clark so fast, quite a nervous little man!
one thing i loved about the old movies is the duality of the clark kent superman identity thing . having louis know who clark is ruins the film for me, we lose superman s awkwardness around women, the humanity- and a lot of humour.
Superman was never awkward it was Clark Kent who was awkward.
One of the best parts of Man of Steel is that it made a point of how - especially in the modern age - a skilled investigator like Lois CAN figure out that Superman and Clark Kent are the same man.
She didn't figure it out, his secret was revealed to her as soon as they met! I would have liked if Lois did figure it out despite his efforts, but that's not what happened in Man of Steel.
Ambaryerno Yeah but to be fair it happened way too quickly and it didnt happen in Metropolis.
It's not just glasses. It's a different posture. It's a deeper, more confident voice. It's that certain, friendly smile. It's a more relaxed attitude. Clark Kent and Superman really do seem like different people.
I love that charming and confident smile he gives. Pure Superman.
He went from Clark Kent to Superman to Kermit The Frog in less than a minute!
This scene also wouldn't be as great without Williams' stellar composition. His uplifting strings, magical chimes, and triumphant brass instruments are as much a part of the Superman experience as Reeve's tremendous acting.
No one before or since has brought Superman to life as good as Christopher Reeve did. This scene represents some of the finest acting ever seen in a superhero role. Reeve shows why he is the greatest Superman of them all: he slides from Clark Kent to Superman and back with such wonderful skill and sincerity, making the performance BOTH a dual identity and different sides of the same identity. A super scene from a super film. God bless.
The main difference between Christopher Reeves and Henry Cavill is Christopher Reeve played the role with a lack of vanity
That is some surprisingly good acting.
Not surprising at all. Christopher Reeve was an excellent actor.
Michael Ponte
Except for all his giant flops as an actor...
ajnode Like that one with the horse.
Michael Ponte Yes he was.
katon3645 too soon
Even after all these years, nearly 23 for me, this scene makes me smile from ear to ear. Christopher Reeve was an absolute genius. The subtle changes i.e. straightening his back slighty, changing his speech patterns and tone, broadening the shoulders... This scene is still fucking incredible ❤
Damn he did more with a a subtle movement of his posture than I think i could pull of with a full wardrobe change, some actors out there are so damn amazing.
I'll admit, I didn't quite believe the stories of Reeve's legendary transformation, but holy shit, this is iconic.
This is acting.
I heard that the producers had narrowed down their choice for Superman to two big-name actors (Burt Reynolds and Warren Beatty) and two unknowns. Chris Reeve was one of those unknowns. In the end, they decided by having each actor put on the Clark Kent glasses. When they looked at Reeve, they said, "That's Clark Kent!". But, at the time, Reeve was too skinny so they were going to have him wear foam padding fake muscles. He worked out for the next 3 months to put on about 20 pounds of muscle and transformed himself into Superman.
Starscream91 lol, definitely not pure muscle. He pit on some fat as well
RIP Burt Reynolds :( Just this week. Trying to picture either of those guys as Supes and it doesn't go well. The mustache... Cavill brought it back, but still. I think either Reynolds or Beatty would have been better as Bond than as Superman.
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you Clark Kent: the greatest thespian of all time. Able to fool the whole world with just a single prop: a pair of glasses!
and his hair shifted to the left as Clark. But right as superman.
Damn.
I never noticed how good he was
He looks so different with those glasses on -- it's like he's a completely different person! LOL
Once you see this scene, you'll never question the effectiveness of the glasses as a disguise again. God DAMN Christopher Reeve was a masterful actor! He takes the glasses off and literally _grows three inches._ And then when he speaks, you wonder where the hell Clark Kent went.
Really shows how in addition to your delivery, pitch and movement, there's also body language, your expressions and different postures are also sometimes integral to your acting tools!
Anyone else always get surprised when he suddenly gains 4 freakin inches. The transformation is always a treat to watch. No wonder I get so disappointed when I watch the new Superman.
Yes it was like WTF!! he just grown in front of me!!
These days he'd need a CGI transformation.
The way he switches from Clark to Superman is just amazing.
That's brilliant acting here
Christopher Reeves is the only Superman that matters. He did a great job. RIP sir.
Chon Dominguez *reeve
Chest up, shoulders back, increase deepness of voice.
I know he meant the Drunk motion, but Reeve's thumb and finger were too close to his mouth when it should have been the circle it made. To put it lightly, it made Clark inadvertently accuse Lois of being high rather than drunk.
That's exactly what i thought he was implying lmao
That's Clark, nice!
I know there are people who are unrecognisable when they remove their glasses. One of them is the famous Elton John. I can't recognise him without his glasses on. The same goes to superman. His disguise is hypnotizing to people around him.
"just glasses"
-every superman hater and saddly most batman fans.
Most batman fanboys are also Superman haters.
@@Idazmi7 as a batman fan, I can honestly say that this statement is unfortunately 100% accurate. Superman deserves more love than he gets.
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You have no idea how good it is to see someone say that. Thank you.
@@Idazmi7 its weird how a lot of batman fans seem to forget that batman would literally not exist without superman.
Luv it. He's such a geek. CR played a better Clark Kent than he did Superman, and he played one helluva Superman. Simply the best.
Cut out the scene closer. I love Lois Lane's line as she leaves the room" That's Clark nice."
This is what the current superman is missing
So handsome.
It's not just the glasses, it's the voice, the posture, the mannerisms, the body language. Nobody would look at Clark Kent and even think he could be possibly be Superman.
Plus, Superman doesn't wear a mask so who would guess he would use a secret identity? They probably just think he's Superman 24/7.
This is why Christopher Reeves is still the undisputed Superman/Clark Kent. Henry Cavill doesn't even try to hide the fact he's Superman!
I mean that alone should have been an Oscar.
No CGI monstrosity can recreate an actual performance of charm and charisma or truly honour how great Christopher Reeve was.
YAY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHRISTOPHER REEVE!!!! I miss him. :,( He was such an inspiration to our lives. They impacted mine. So Hater? Lol uh No Thanks!!! ;)
Not trying to NOT like Henry Cavil's Superman but, Christopher Reeve is way better!!! Ps my OPINION y'all!!! But Henry can't make Superman happen like Christopher Reeve did!!! ;)
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The main difference is that Christopher Reeve, his appearance, personality and most importantly, character was pretty much as close to Superman as anyone can be. Decent, honorable, righteous, humble and gentle. To me, Cavill just doesn't capture these values very well. And then on top of this the way the new movies try to make the character more complicated is just a huge mistake. In one of the early interviews Reeve gave about his portrayal of the role (you can find it on RUclips) he says something like "Superman, because of his powers, is able to see the world very very simply and be a force for good". This statement captures the essence of Superman perfectly - because of his powers he doesn't need to see the world in shades of grey like us mere mortals but he can see it in black and white... or in other words, he can pursue ideals. So, as a 20-something year old actor, he understood this and that is what makes his portrayal of Superman so genuine and great. Cavill and Snyder just don't understand this aspect of the character which is why their movies feel hollow.
Except that even for someone like Superman there is a gray area
This is what Henry Cavill misses.
the guy looks like he was born to do this role.
Watching other actor: "Haha, you just have to have fun and suspend disbelief that nobody realizes they're the same person."
Watching Christopher Reeve: "I legitimately can't believe they're the same person despite literally knowing they are."
I once got into an argument with someone who felt Cavil played the best Superman. I showed them this clip and won the argument.
AWESOME!!!!!
Exactly this is acting
I've always wondered why nobody recognized Superman as Clark Kent. Now I know.
The part where he takes his glasses off is my favourite moment in any film, ever. He grows like four inches and it shows who he really is.
He does. Note that he chickens out, gets nervous and ducks back behind his glasses *before* getting fully back into character. Clark Kent is played up, but it's also a part of who he is.
Man that moment when he takes the glasses off and adjusts his posture is so subtle but it’s pure magic
This is so great, Reeve totally gets to make the characters so different. Cavil just puts on glasses and its like hey, there is Superman in glasses.
He is and always will be SUPERMAN.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Henry Cavill in the role.
But god this man could do so much with so little
Brandon Routh looks ALOT like Reeve! I think he made a better superman than Cavil. Love them both though 💕
I actually thought he was good as Superman but AMAZING as Clark. Was sorry about the semi-creepy take on the character they gave him (hanging around Lois' pad, lonely and lovelorn, while Lois and Richard and THE KID had gone on without him). HATED that take on Lois. Didn't like Bosworth in the role at all, and Richard as a character is such a good, wonderful guy - Superman without the powers, really - that what chance does Clark ever have with Lois unless Richard dies (in which case he'll likely be a martyr and Lois will worship him forever)?
That change in posture made all the difference in the world. Incredible!
This is my all time favorite movie. But I do have to ask. How was Clark going to finish that sentence? He wasn't given the moniker of Superman yet. Lois, there's something I have to tell you. I'm really...the guy you just flew around with a few minutes ago?
Forget the tagline" You'll believe a man can fly", instead "You'll believe Clark Kent and Superman are not the same person"
Just look at the transformation. In a split second he goes from Clark to Superman. Not just the glasses, facial expression, body posture...Reeve is the only one who made it believable. It's remarkable how he changes before our eyes.
slouching, stuttering, nervous, dorky and meek as Clark Kent, proud, tall, confident and majestic as Superman.
That gesture he makes when he says "Let's, uh, push off shall we" (up, up & away) is a subtle hint to his true identity which he probably wouldn't have done if he wasn't subconsciously wanting to reveal his identity to Lois, he only realizes he's letting his metaphorical mask slip when he removes his glasses, then remembers the reason he's keeping his secret identity. Brilliant.
Superman: *Puts on glasses*
Everyone: “I’ve never met this guy in my life”
This is some COOL acting.
Man this one scene proves Christopher Reeve is the best Superman.
Amazing how his posture and voice changed in a matter of seconds. Though I really liked the performances of Tom Welling and Henry Cavill, Reeve could manage to improvise naturally, and that’s what makes a good actor.
This is why Christopher Reeve is THE live-action Superman, to which all others must be judged. Just the subtle changes in the voices and body language...he was just so fucking good.
Watch this and tell me Cavill is the better Superman, I dare you.
Jeez it's just amazing! A simple change in posture, a pair of glasses and a change in octave and suddenly he's a completely different person! When someone says Superman's secret identity is lame, they clearly have not seen Christopher Reeve's incredible performance here, showcasing exactly how and why Superman's disguise is probably the best of all the superheroes.
What if Clark Kent an Superman are in fact to different people ? Clark Kent is the moral good person an Kal El is the powers? Superman is 3 people in one, he splits his personalitys to create different people. Clark Kent in the news room, Superman then as they combined in one, its Clark Kent around his loved ones.
A combination of posture and vocal inflection with the glasses will do wonders as a disguise.
One of the best bits of acting ever caught on film.
We will never see this type of scene again as long as Snyder keeps directing super man
This scene alone is why I never considered Cavill's performance even close to Christopher Reeve's
they cant find your secret identity if they think you dont have one
You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about.
Of course I know him - he's me!
Love the posture but the way the glasses transform to being a part of him, to being some strange object that is not connected to him, to being a part of him again, is excellent too. Glasses are personal items and you treat a pair of glasses completely differently when they are yours or not yours.
H. Cavill hace un buen papel como Superman, pero Reeves sin dudas es y será el mejor Superman de toda la historia. Qepd.