Because even then you're still his best agent. Come to think of it, you're the only one too. Sure, he hires other people, but they have never met him personally.
The Courier (Player) is his best agent and the only agent that ever met him in person. He will be annoyed but he still has to count on you to get the job done.
One of the less talked about joys of new Vegas is that it lets you feel something difficult to obtain in a society of machine cogs. The kind of job security where you can annoy your superiors but you’re too useful to fire.
It's fantastic. Mr House is a centuries-old prodigy, and he clearly holds very high standards from his old world days. Having a brain-damaged mailman delay his moment of triumph to coax some bottle caps out of him at the LAST second (in the most short term, suicidal way imaginable) must be INSANELY frustrating.
@@roguereaver634I wouldn't call him a techno-fetishist, really. He wants to use machinery to his own ends but he doesn't have any particularly holier-than-thou perspective on it, either by himself or his opponents.
@@fossfox Mr. House is the closest faction in game to an actual by-the-book fascist, I think. Obviously ideas like national pride and racism mean nothing to him, but with an ideology based around an enlightened dictator empowering the interests of the bourgeoisie (AKA himself and the gangs he lords over) and all dissent being ruthlessly squashed in an attempt to create perfect, structurally order-based class collaboration... he's a fascist.
@@zaer-ezart The way he says "because they're ridiculous", completely exasperated by the fact that the Courier can't see something that's so obvious to him. René Auberjonois killed it
I love how well-spoken and verbose House is. He’s so authorial. It’s a given for his galaxy-brained character, but I love to listen to it all the same.
@@Tony-The-Motherfucking-Tigerwell he ain't having revenge on NCR, he just wants them to be weak and then be weakened even more after the battle for Hoover dam, so that he could put himself in charge of everything. Benny has died, NCR hasn't
Bruh the Ncr is his enemy why he shouldn't wipe out the Kings if they help them, in the contrary if you make the Kings to attack the Ncr Mr House will favour them.
I never liked how he talked down to me about killing Benny. I didnt want him to congratulate me, I just wanted to let him know he wouldnt hafta worry... :(
I think in his mind, the fact that you have the chip is literally all that matters; Benny being alive, dead, still in the area, 100 miles away, all doesn't matter. He probably doesn't see any other reason to bring it up because it's SO OBVIOUS, to him, that it doesn't mater.
What i love with Mr House is that he doesn't hide his personality, he shows who he is and he is proud of himself, he doesn't act like a hero or a Messiah of the Mojave, he only wants to make Vegas great again and make humanity advance and explore the stars and i respect that.
he does tho, he trys to say he doesnt care about revenge or getting involved in others lives but then turns around and gets the bos blown up, taxes primm into the dirt if they accept NCR rule, and murderers the kings if they make a truce with the NCR. Mr house is vindictave and cold blooded and will take out anyone who COULD be a threat to his power. hes meant to talk you into a false sense of trust, after all he just seems like a trustworthy business man that just wants to improve the wasteland and make money while doing it.
@@kobold7466 In regards to the BOS, you have to think about who they are and what they do. And House was right, there was no way they'd have just left New Vegas alone, when its using Pre-War bots to enforce the law. The Brotherhood doesn't allow any advanced pre-war tech out of their hands, as you can see in Fallout 3(Project Purity and the purifier), and again in Fallout 4(The Institute and the Synths). Logically speaking, House was simply removing a threat before they had an opportunity to strike first. Something literally every other major faction has done or still does in-game. Maybe killing them was a bit harsh, but do you honestly thing anything less would have been sufficient?
He wrote his own obituary that automatically gets sent to every pip-boy in the region when he dies that essentially says he believes the world is screwed without him. He absolutely thinks of himself as a saviour, and he has a hell of an ego
6:49 that's what made me choose House's side. Unlike all other parties, he has a vision of the future. And not just abstract, but concrete. With a specific time and result. Unlike the NCR, which simply propose to return to the past, with the same institutions of elections (in fact, without elections). With the same bureaucracy, corruption, etc. It was precisely this structure of society that led to the apocalypse in the world of Fallout. Politicians with exorbitant ambitions, hungry for power over the whole world, unable to find compromises and negotiate. And the NCR proposes to return all this again. So that after some time the world would again plunge into total destruction. Caesar's Legion is even ridiculous to consider, all they offer is the right of the strong. The same return to an even more distant, barbaric past of humanity with all the consequences. If you want such a world, why choose a Legion, you might as well join the cannibal junkies, or the White Glove, or just any other gang of looters who do the same thing as the Legion, they have about the same rules and laws. Unless the Legion despises drugs or any other kind of high, which does not make them more chaste and correct, since at the same time they crucify people on crosses and make full use of the slave trade and so on. The Brotherhood of Steel is the same problem as everyone else, there is no normal vision of the future. Just roam the wastelands collecting weapons and technologies of the past at any cost, living in bunkers, without inventing anything new. It sounds as unattractive as possible. Probably the ending looks more or less like the Courier himself. The Legion was defeated, the House was removed, the casino was removed, but the NCR was not given full power in the region. As a result, life in Nevada will continue to go on in its own measured way. It sounds good, but personally I lack some kind of epic in the spirit of Fallout. And Mr. House, as for me, is the only one who offers this vision of a future different from everything that humanity has had before. Not an ideal future, but a worthy one, leading humanity further forward, despite the apocalypse that has occurred, Mr. House has a clear vision, understanding, resources, skills, competence to turn his plans into reality. I don't like all of his views, especially with regard to Stripp, where he plans to rule as an autocrat. But again, this is only temporary, this is only an intermediate stage on the way to truly great goals. What I also like is that he does not force people to his vision of the future. He does not offer "choose a bright future or die from securitron." He will simply create a future in which people will come themselves, voluntarily. Think for yourself, technological development, advanced civilization, increased life expectancy, travel to other worlds. How can something like this not attract? Especially when there is a radioactive wasteland on the opposite side of the scale, cities in ruins, captivity of savages of all stripes, cruelty, endless survival on the verge. This is not life, this is survival and just existence without purpose and meaning.
House is also a representation of the past, just as the other factions are. He punishes disloyalty, and ultimately won't help the general populace or give them the freedom to truly affect government because that doesn't fit into his view of the future. Thus I don't support his view of the future, because I see it as ultimately destructive.
@@aarohalme1020 He just lets people do their own thing. Ain't no shit won't be no shit. He just advances his own goals with the benefits and profits he reaps off of his 'customers'. If you pose a threat in his calculations, he'll have the Courier or his Securitrons deal with it. He doesn't promise an obscure ideal but a concrete goal, unlike the NCR or the Legion
@@ItsChevnotJeff Let's people do their own thing unless they're at odds with his vision. His goal also isn't to help the common man, nor to let them influence how the country is run. An autocrat through and through.
@@aarohalme1020 "You enjoy yourselves so long as you pay, and I'll see if I can make something better for you to enjoy, like the rebuilding of humanity, perhaps?"
House, joshua Graham, chief hanlon, vulpuz inculta, and Ulysses all together the best lines in the game, vulpez lines are more intimidating than lanius and ceaser
Ulysses uses overly-flowery language to the point of being opaque. I hate talking to him. He comes across as a guy who just like to hear himself talk, and his ultimate plan is just to blow things up.
I side with Mr. House on any of my "canon" playthroughs. I like to re-enable the cut content that lets you have the diplomatic ending with the Brotherhood too. Using that takes away my one real issue with him. Otherwise, he's my favourite "faction". He can be a wiseass who doesn't think much of you, but once you prove yourself, he shows you genuine respect. Heck, the ending slides mention how he "affords you every luxury" for the rest of your days (and he also implies that he may use his tech to extend your life too, so there's that).
Back before, when I played Fallout 3, I adored the Brotherhood. And this is true, the devs painted them as the good guys. After that it felt wrong killing the entire chapter in Mojave. But, after some extensive lore reading and playing through Fallout 4, I see why they must be destroyed. The thing is - they are military in their core, and they have little of anything else but that. You don't see them growing crops, you don't see them building cities. All they do is for violence or to combat violence. And it's actually okay to be that specific, but they don't want to cooperate with anyone else or do that very rarely. You don't see them making allies, you see them marching on anyone strong enough to be a threat to them. They are, essentially, a war machine. And without war they have no purpose.
@@greed140 Those are all good points, Mr. Best Homunculus. I guess to be more specific, I don't hate that House asks you to destroy the Brotherhood; I dislike that the diplomatic option was removed. House is usually very level-headed, so him saying "Kill them, end of story" is a bit off putting. For the diplomatic ending, you have to complete the Brotherhood quests, join them, and then convince House that you will use your position with them to your mutual advantage (wiping them out only if/when the need arises). To me, it just makes more sense for him to be capable of seeing the advantage. That said, I see his original point: "The world has no need for unstable techno-fetishists who think that all technology belongs to them." As you said, that just makes them into a war machine without purpose.
@@greed140 >literally just uses 3 and 4 to justify why they need to destroy and entirely different offshoot of the BoS with lyons pride being one of the biggest deviations from the rest
@@greed140see I don’t understand this take. The BoS in the west do help people, and don’t really go around taking tech off settlements as is made out. They go to ruins and raiders and hoard that tech, but they aren’t aggressive to everyone they come across so much as they are wary. Which why wouldn’t you be
@@greystash1750 In Fallout 1, when you first encounter the Brotherhood. They are obviously annoyed at a random outsider just coming to them. You first mission you do for them, is actually a suicide one... They are surprised if you come back from that! XD
It wouldn't solve the fact that he still would have needed the tech to build what is essentially an SSD to get that software to the Fort with no industrial capacity whatsoever. Every Securitron is a relic over 200 years old, mind you.
I find it strange House really isn't interested in what happened to Benny. Like, yeah, ostensibly, the Courier turned him into a bear rug from his perspective and he's no longer an issue, but that doesn't guarantee that's what actually happened. There's a reason why people debrief each other on what happened and provide after action reports, since when it comes to delicate matters like with traitors, you need to know they won't be a problem anymore. Maybe prior to that moment, the Courier explictly said they offed him, but it'd still be important to know how. What if they just shot him in the head? We could have two people who suffered the same fate at that point!
Mr house didn’t care about Benny once he stopped being useful to him. And the only way Benny CAN be a problem is if he has the platinum chip and knows where to find the bunker. Assuming you meet Benny at Caesar’s camp, it’s obvious to house that you or the legion have the chip but neither have used it in the bunker. The platinum chip is the only play benny has against house, otherwise he would have to get the 3 families to side with him or have an army backing him, but the guy is a con artist not a leader. Even if he did somehow raise an army the hard way against house that would take time, more so than using the chip immediately to rival house’s securitron army at the strip. He sees Benny as an upstart charlatan amongst beggars and gamblers, the same way we would see a coyote amongst dogs. Ahead of the curve, but below any threat to him
Because it doesn't matter; Benny could be alive, super-pissed, and trying to get the Chairmen to march across the street and tear the Lucky 38 down brick by brick--doesn't matter, House would have them all gunned down in minutes. There is literally no way Benny could be a threat now that he doesn't have the chip, in House's mind.
Mr. House reminds me of Lord Vetinari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld books. Both serve their city states as unquestionable leaders that answer to no one, both are cunning and intelligent, both of them outsource business to groups serving under them, and both have that eyebrow raise.
@@DmitrisnikioffThe concern for the “common good” is what got the world into the mess of nuclear war, people will always be selfish. Vetinari is out for Ankh-Morpork exclusively and manipulates everyone and everything to ensure its continued existence for better or worse (oftentimes worse) regardless of the cost, Mr. House is out for Humanity’s imperial destiny exclusively and uses Vegas as a tool to achieve that regardless of the cost in human misery so long as he’s not politically or physically threatened, but that’s no different from any other decently effective politician. Both are evil, don’t try to say otherwise.
Interesting how little he thinks of anything that isn't his own mind Talks about everything outside of his purview as if they're cavemen banging rocks when the both the NCR and the Legion are massive industrial societies with potentially millions of people each with trade, travel, crafts and science (Though in diametrically opposite ways) Really shows how much he thinks of himself as a legitimate savior
It's my 4th playthrough, this time I used tale of two wastelands. Going into the Mojave with boosted stats opened so many unique dialogues. So many questions I had for over a DECADE about this game were all answered, through in game dialogue. The plot holds up after a whole ass decade. Insane, I love Fallout
I generally like House, but some things give me serious pause. His main focus is pie in the sky science projects rather than helping the world. The Mojave has only recently gone to shit, but otherwise it's a pretty normal series of small settlements. I don't think giving up on Nevada and California is reasonable. And he only makes some vague allusions to partnering with the Followers, but only out of pragmatism, rather than any humanitarian desire. There's nothing stopping a peaceful Mojave from housing hundreds of thousands of people in a metropolis with the power and water from Hoover Dam. House might make that, but only so much as it would be to build up the tech industry again.
He is megalomaniac and Fallout's version of 19th century robber baron. He may say he's going to lead humanity to brighter future, but I don't buy it. And since you as the courier can get control of Big MT, the most sophisticated research institute in the world, there's no reason to work with House.
I wish they had an ending for how I worked with Mr. House. Sure in the end I gave him everything he wanted, but I made sure that it was like pulling teeth with baseball gloves for him. And I always tried to leave him guessing what I'd do next.
Annoying Mr House is like the that scene from Spongebob where Squidward was asking the magic conch for food, except the conch is the Courier and Squidward is Mr House
You would think with a line like “I’ll make sure the trains run on time” House would have been compared to fascists but I haven’t seen any discussion on it. Not to imply as though he is cause clearly the man is still a capitalist at heart.
He doesn’t care what you’re selling or who you’re selling to, only that he gets his cut. But that’s mostly due to the fact that securitrons are canonically unstoppable with the mk II OS, unless you broke the game balance with a critical build or with a super slam/stonewall melee build, or if you’re using the one-of-a-kind pulse gun or the sonic emitters.
He's an expression of American libertarianism in its individualistic ideal. Objectivism even. The fundamental flaws with that particular ideology are self-evident to anyone with a working brain, but they pale in comparison to fascism's proto-religious zeal and paranoid schizophrenia about the "others" used to manipulate the rubes of a fascist society. The two kinds often ally with each other, but ultimately the ideologies inevitably conflict. The legion are probably the closest to fascism in FNV (not that the label really fits them either, they reject industry/progress outright after all). In F4 it's the BoS who play that role, but the writing of that game pales in comparison.
I describe the four major factions as follows; House is the best option, while the Legion is the based option. The NCR is the soy option, and if you are going the Yes Man route you probably have an IQ whose numerical equivalent is that of room temperature...
House is talking a lot of shit concidering how suprisingly weak the securitrons protecting him are, I went in with my character that had absolutely zero combat capibilities and still solod the entire place
Might be true, but the dialogue in general is just fantastic in this game. Even some of the unimportant NPC's have memorable dialogue, and I'm not even talking about the Nuclear Winter line.
That’s what is so cool about it, the House ending is my favorite too but everyone is different and has their own moral compass and so they will play this game differently
@@CatManThree That's not true though, there have been "positive" dictatorships, such as Kemal Ataturk, Henry IV, Tito's Yugoslavia (without said dictatorship race wars broke out), the Five Good Emperors, Wu Zetian etc. House is essentially a "kind-of" Ataturk, only with more emphasis on technological progress and less emphasis on moralism,
In what way is he like the enclave aside from the autocracy? 1.a enclave wants to bring back America 1.b mr house thinks that the world is better off without America since they’re the ones that caused this mess in the first place 2.a mr house rules the strip with a planned economy very similarly to how Singapore and China runs their economy 2.b enclave rules their land through direct military control 3.a the enclave are a bunch of race purists who think everybody Outside of the oil rig are mutants and therefore should be terminated 3.b mr house doesn’t care how mutated you are just as long as you’re not hurting his customers or getting in the way of his ambitions and those are only the differences I could think of at the top of my head there are likely way more
@@faresalsayed9005 The Enclave’s end goal is to get an interstellar colony ship off Earth. Everything else is ancillary to that. Mr. House had an issue with “democracy”, in actuality an oligarchy with him not on top. He would be doing almost the exact same things as the Enclave, minus FEV shenanigans. Mr. House maintains control via his army of securitrons. Without them, the Boot Riders, Sawneys, and Slither Kin would probably still be raider tribing along. The Enclave is racist af because they want genetically “pure” humans for breeding stock or simply a recruiting pool. Mr. House has robots, and lots of them.
The Enclave also vilifies mutants, and humans that are tainted with even the most minute genetic mutations. When they offer sanctuaries to waste landers, they scan them if they have any mutations, and if they test positive, they get killed on the spot while the next human in line takes his place to get scanned for entry. I don't see how Mr.house is like the Enclave.
@@Archedgar And eventually the democratic nation separates into two ideological poles, forms parties based on those poles, and enters a Cold War with each other. Nothing of note gets accomplished from that point on. Any time anything starts to get accomplished, the other party tears it down. Repeat ad nauseam as the parties gain or lose power. Both parties eventually realize that there will be no further progress for the country, much less either parties goals being realized unless one party or the other secures total, permanent control of the government. Power plays grow less and less subtle as the stalemate stretches on. Tempers flare. The two parties eventually start seeing each other as the Enemy, rather than fellow citizens. Both sides dehumanize the other. The end result is inevitably Civil War. Civil War that continues until one ideology rules and the other ideology dies to the last man. The country is is ruins afterwards, no matter who eventually wins.
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God RUclips made this a nightmare to upload, something to do with my form fillings. Anyway enjoy.
God I'm fuckin old
Form fillings? Like file fillings? Or are you making tooth moulds? I...I really want to know
you stole it
Meaning that... It could still happen
Fun fact: given Mr. House’s canon birthdate, he would be 3 years old as I write this comment
O I may yet adopt him...
Do you think he’s watching Skibidi toilet right now?
Mr House is a gen alpha iPad baby
@@aleksanderhelt1459I know understand why he knows he needs to control the fate of humanity
Probably he can disassemble and put together a pip-boy already.
Sadly, Mr House’s voice actor passed away some time ago.
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He's the actor that played Odo in Star Trek Deep Space 9.
I love that you can annoy the crap out of him, mess up every assignment, and keep working for him😂
Because even then you're still his best agent. Come to think of it, you're the only one too. Sure, he hires other people, but they have never met him personally.
It's even funnier to do that to Caesar 😂 he legit rages and says "FUCK IT IM GOING TO BED"
The Courier (Player) is his best agent and the only agent that ever met him in person. He will be annoyed but he still has to count on you to get the job done.
One of the less talked about joys of new Vegas is that it lets you feel something difficult to obtain in a society of machine cogs.
The kind of job security where you can annoy your superiors but you’re too useful to fire.
Lmfao I'm 100% going to do this for my House playthrough 😂
His voice acting at 2:33 is so good. I never bothered to mess around with him so I missed out on this during my playthrough but it's so expressive
It’s a shame House’s voice actor has passed away.
he became dr mobius
René Auberjonois is a phenomenal actor, give some of his other work a watch
It's fantastic. Mr House is a centuries-old prodigy, and he clearly holds very high standards from his old world days.
Having a brain-damaged mailman delay his moment of triumph to coax some bottle caps out of him at the LAST second (in the most short term, suicidal way imaginable) must be INSANELY frustrating.
@@Jiub_SNhe is in Star Trek, deep space nine, I KNEW I kept hearing Mr. House’s voice
“Emotionally unstable techno-fetishist”
Best description of BoS ever made
Said by an emotionally stable techno-fetishist
@@roguereaver634Hey. Least he's stable.
@@roguereaver634I wouldn't call him a techno-fetishist, really. He wants to use machinery to his own ends but he doesn't have any particularly holier-than-thou perspective on it, either by himself or his opponents.
@@fossfox Mr. House is the closest faction in game to an actual by-the-book fascist, I think. Obviously ideas like national pride and racism mean nothing to him, but with an ideology based around an enlightened dictator empowering the interests of the bourgeoisie (AKA himself and the gangs he lords over) and all dissent being ruthlessly squashed in an attempt to create perfect, structurally order-based class collaboration... he's a fascist.
i like the line “Now be a good Courier, AND DELIVER IT!”
*"If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows."*
Damn! 😮
A close second is his take on the Brotherhood, I always chuckle when I do his route and get to that part
@@pabloc8808 I really like the BoS but I gotta admit that house made a really good point about them
@@zaer-ezart The way he says "because they're ridiculous", completely exasperated by the fact that the Courier can't see something that's so obvious to him. René Auberjonois killed it
And yet the fate of the autocratic Chinese state was exactly the same.
@@sickrantorum693 True but you could argue if a democracy was effective they would've had the means to stop the Chinese and the nuclear holocaust
I love how well-spoken and verbose House is. He’s so authorial. It’s a given for his galaxy-brained character, but I love to listen to it all the same.
Mr. House when Mr. Homeless walks in
3:08 "Revenge doesn't interest me"
>Wipes out the Kings if they help the NCR
>Forces Primm to pay heavy taxes if they accept NCR rule
Ncr is literally the same ....
@@EnclaveComsOfficer And Legion too, that wasn't my point
@@Tony-The-Motherfucking-Tigerwell he ain't having revenge on NCR, he just wants them to be weak and then be weakened even more after the battle for Hoover dam, so that he could put himself in charge of everything. Benny has died, NCR hasn't
Bruh the Ncr is his enemy why he shouldn't wipe out the Kings if they help them, in the contrary if you make the Kings to attack the Ncr Mr House will favour them.
@@SakisLio08 What I'm saying is he's an hypocrite
*Saves your life and offers you a job*
*Tell him you're there to kill him*
"You're welcome." 😑
That's what I love. Through cheer dialogue alone he made you rethink your choices or made you feel guilty
My favorite line is still "you wish to see the results of democracy, look outside" so snippy 😂
RIP René Auberjonois Born: June 1, 1940, New York, NY Died: December 8, 2019, Los Angeles, CA, best actor & voice actor of all time
RIP Rene. He was the best Security Chief when he was in Deep Space 9 as well as a powerful figure in New Vegas
Most Frightening Wizard of Oz character really.
I never liked how he talked down to me about killing Benny. I didnt want him to congratulate me, I just wanted to let him know he wouldnt hafta worry... :(
[Intelligence 1] you is big meanie me no like you [Attack]
I think in his mind, the fact that you have the chip is literally all that matters; Benny being alive, dead, still in the area, 100 miles away, all doesn't matter. He probably doesn't see any other reason to bring it up because it's SO OBVIOUS, to him, that it doesn't mater.
@@billjacobs521 that is pretty much what he tells you
“Revenge doesn’t interest me, progress does”
RIP to the goat Rene Auberjonois
"I don't want you harming a hair on that man's head - assuming you can find one" it's still to me the wildest roast in new vegas
When I started watching Deep Space 9 I had no idea Odo was Mr. House
Even as somebody whose seen ds9 I couldn’t tell right away. It gets a lot more obvious when he starts getting angry at 2:33
Me either, but I did instantly like Odo.
Was that meant to be a shocking revelation. 5:13
And this is why i side with mr house 9 times out of 10
same, he may not be democratic but i dont think we need something like that
What about the other 1 out of 10?
@@Deaglan753”if you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows.”
@@E-0921cringe
Maybe not the profligates! 🤣
What i love with Mr House is that he doesn't hide his personality, he shows who he is and he is proud of himself, he doesn't act like a hero or a Messiah of the Mojave, he only wants to make Vegas great again and make humanity advance and explore the stars and i respect that.
he does tho, he trys to say he doesnt care about revenge or getting involved in others lives but then turns around and gets the bos blown up, taxes primm into the dirt if they accept NCR rule, and murderers the kings if they make a truce with the NCR. Mr house is vindictave and cold blooded and will take out anyone who COULD be a threat to his power. hes meant to talk you into a false sense of trust, after all he just seems like a trustworthy business man that just wants to improve the wasteland and make money while doing it.
@@kobold7466 In regards to the BOS, you have to think about who they are and what they do. And House was right, there was no way they'd have just left New Vegas alone, when its using Pre-War bots to enforce the law. The Brotherhood doesn't allow any advanced pre-war tech out of their hands, as you can see in Fallout 3(Project Purity and the purifier), and again in Fallout 4(The Institute and the Synths). Logically speaking, House was simply removing a threat before they had an opportunity to strike first. Something literally every other major faction has done or still does in-game. Maybe killing them was a bit harsh, but do you honestly thing anything less would have been sufficient?
You couldn't be more wrong lol
He wrote his own obituary that automatically gets sent to every pip-boy in the region when he dies that essentially says he believes the world is screwed without him. He absolutely thinks of himself as a saviour, and he has a hell of an ego
"he only wants to make Vegas great again" I think I heard a retard say something like that before... just sayin
6:49 that's what made me choose House's side. Unlike all other parties, he has a vision of the future. And not just abstract, but concrete. With a specific time and result.
Unlike the NCR, which simply propose to return to the past, with the same institutions of elections (in fact, without elections). With the same bureaucracy, corruption, etc. It was precisely this structure of society that led to the apocalypse in the world of Fallout. Politicians with exorbitant ambitions, hungry for power over the whole world, unable to find compromises and negotiate. And the NCR proposes to return all this again. So that after some time the world would again plunge into total destruction.
Caesar's Legion is even ridiculous to consider, all they offer is the right of the strong. The same return to an even more distant, barbaric past of humanity with all the consequences. If you want such a world, why choose a Legion, you might as well join the cannibal junkies, or the White Glove, or just any other gang of looters who do the same thing as the Legion, they have about the same rules and laws. Unless the Legion despises drugs or any other kind of high, which does not make them more chaste and correct, since at the same time they crucify people on crosses and make full use of the slave trade and so on.
The Brotherhood of Steel is the same problem as everyone else, there is no normal vision of the future. Just roam the wastelands collecting weapons and technologies of the past at any cost, living in bunkers, without inventing anything new. It sounds as unattractive as possible.
Probably the ending looks more or less like the Courier himself. The Legion was defeated, the House was removed, the casino was removed, but the NCR was not given full power in the region. As a result, life in Nevada will continue to go on in its own measured way. It sounds good, but personally I lack some kind of epic in the spirit of Fallout.
And Mr. House, as for me, is the only one who offers this vision of a future different from everything that humanity has had before. Not an ideal future, but a worthy one, leading humanity further forward, despite the apocalypse that has occurred, Mr. House has a clear vision, understanding, resources, skills, competence to turn his plans into reality.
I don't like all of his views, especially with regard to Stripp, where he plans to rule as an autocrat. But again, this is only temporary, this is only an intermediate stage on the way to truly great goals.
What I also like is that he does not force people to his vision of the future. He does not offer "choose a bright future or die from securitron." He will simply create a future in which people will come themselves, voluntarily.
Think for yourself, technological development, advanced civilization, increased life expectancy, travel to other worlds. How can something like this not attract?
Especially when there is a radioactive wasteland on the opposite side of the scale, cities in ruins, captivity of savages of all stripes, cruelty, endless survival on the verge. This is not life, this is survival and just existence without purpose and meaning.
House is also a representation of the past, just as the other factions are.
He punishes disloyalty, and ultimately won't help the general populace or give them the freedom to truly affect government because that doesn't fit into his view of the future.
Thus I don't support his view of the future, because I see it as ultimately destructive.
@@aarohalme1020 Punishing treason is bad because...............?
@@aarohalme1020 He just lets people do their own thing. Ain't no shit won't be no shit. He just advances his own goals with the benefits and profits he reaps off of his 'customers'. If you pose a threat in his calculations, he'll have the Courier or his Securitrons deal with it. He doesn't promise an obscure ideal but a concrete goal, unlike the NCR or the Legion
@@ItsChevnotJeff Let's people do their own thing unless they're at odds with his vision.
His goal also isn't to help the common man, nor to let them influence how the country is run.
An autocrat through and through.
@@aarohalme1020 "You enjoy yourselves so long as you pay, and I'll see if I can make something better for you to enjoy, like the rebuilding of humanity, perhaps?"
House, joshua Graham, chief hanlon, vulpuz inculta, and Ulysses all together the best lines in the game, vulpez lines are more intimidating than lanius and ceaser
Vulpes isn't above treachery, so there are things to fear from him that you wouldn't from Lanius or Caesar.
He's less intimidating when you toss a few dynamite sticks before he starts monologuing.
I never heard much of his. The only line he'd get to say in all my plays is "Legionaries, we have a problem." Never talked much shortly after that.
Vulpes being a gay furry will never not be funny
Ulysses uses overly-flowery language to the point of being opaque. I hate talking to him. He comes across as a guy who just like to hear himself talk, and his ultimate plan is just to blow things up.
I side with Mr. House on any of my "canon" playthroughs. I like to re-enable the cut content that lets you have the diplomatic ending with the Brotherhood too. Using that takes away my one real issue with him. Otherwise, he's my favourite "faction". He can be a wiseass who doesn't think much of you, but once you prove yourself, he shows you genuine respect. Heck, the ending slides mention how he "affords you every luxury" for the rest of your days (and he also implies that he may use his tech to extend your life too, so there's that).
Back before, when I played Fallout 3, I adored the Brotherhood. And this is true, the devs painted them as the good guys. After that it felt wrong killing the entire chapter in Mojave. But, after some extensive lore reading and playing through Fallout 4, I see why they must be destroyed. The thing is - they are military in their core, and they have little of anything else but that. You don't see them growing crops, you don't see them building cities. All they do is for violence or to combat violence. And it's actually okay to be that specific, but they don't want to cooperate with anyone else or do that very rarely. You don't see them making allies, you see them marching on anyone strong enough to be a threat to them. They are, essentially, a war machine. And without war they have no purpose.
@@greed140 Those are all good points, Mr. Best Homunculus. I guess to be more specific, I don't hate that House asks you to destroy the Brotherhood; I dislike that the diplomatic option was removed.
House is usually very level-headed, so him saying "Kill them, end of story" is a bit off putting. For the diplomatic ending, you have to complete the Brotherhood quests, join them, and then convince House that you will use your position with them to your mutual advantage (wiping them out only if/when the need arises). To me, it just makes more sense for him to be capable of seeing the advantage. That said, I see his original point: "The world has no need for unstable techno-fetishists who think that all technology belongs to them." As you said, that just makes them into a war machine without purpose.
@@greed140 >literally just uses 3 and 4 to justify why they need to destroy and entirely different offshoot of the BoS with lyons pride being one of the biggest deviations from the rest
@@greed140see I don’t understand this take. The BoS in the west do help people, and don’t really go around taking tech off settlements as is made out. They go to ruins and raiders and hoard that tech, but they aren’t aggressive to everyone they come across so much as they are wary. Which why wouldn’t you be
@@greystash1750
In Fallout 1, when you first encounter the Brotherhood.
They are obviously annoyed at a random outsider just coming to them.
You first mission you do for them, is actually a suicide one... They are surprised if you come back from that! XD
mfw I'm the President, CEO, and sole proprietor of the New Vegas strip.
You know, given the 100 years or so since House has woken up, you’d think he’d just rewrite the new securatron software.
It wouldn't solve the fact that he still would have needed the tech to build what is essentially an SSD to get that software to the Fort with no industrial capacity whatsoever. Every Securitron is a relic over 200 years old, mind you.
I find it strange House really isn't interested in what happened to Benny. Like, yeah, ostensibly, the Courier turned him into a bear rug from his perspective and he's no longer an issue, but that doesn't guarantee that's what actually happened. There's a reason why people debrief each other on what happened and provide after action reports, since when it comes to delicate matters like with traitors, you need to know they won't be a problem anymore. Maybe prior to that moment, the Courier explictly said they offed him, but it'd still be important to know how. What if they just shot him in the head? We could have two people who suffered the same fate at that point!
Mr house didn’t care about Benny once he stopped being useful to him. And the only way Benny CAN be a problem is if he has the platinum chip and knows where to find the bunker. Assuming you meet Benny at Caesar’s camp, it’s obvious to house that you or the legion have the chip but neither have used it in the bunker.
The platinum chip is the only play benny has against house, otherwise he would have to get the 3 families to side with him or have an army backing him, but the guy is a con artist not a leader. Even if he did somehow raise an army the hard way against house that would take time, more so than using the chip immediately to rival house’s securitron army at the strip.
He sees Benny as an upstart charlatan amongst beggars and gamblers, the same way we would see a coyote amongst dogs. Ahead of the curve, but below any threat to him
Because it doesn't matter; Benny could be alive, super-pissed, and trying to get the Chairmen to march across the street and tear the Lucky 38 down brick by brick--doesn't matter, House would have them all gunned down in minutes. There is literally no way Benny could be a threat now that he doesn't have the chip, in House's mind.
I like what he has to say if you help the Omertas.
I see, so where does that leave us?
Your Mk1 securitrons are gonna kill me? Thats richer than you used to be.
Rest in peace Odo
he and joshua graham is the best characters in entire fallout series
“Now, please, put them out of ~my~ misery!” Legendary
My man flies through dialogue options
Walt Disney’s evil brother
nah Walt is definitely his evil brother 😂
He's more Howard Hughes if he didn't go completely insane
Mr. House reminds me of Lord Vetinari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld books. Both serve their city states as unquestionable leaders that answer to no one, both are cunning and intelligent, both of them outsource business to groups serving under them, and both have that eyebrow raise.
Except Vetinari fundamentally worked for the common good and House very much does not.
@@DmitrisnikioffThe concern for the “common good” is what got the world into the mess of nuclear war, people will always be selfish. Vetinari is out for Ankh-Morpork exclusively and manipulates everyone and everything to ensure its continued existence for better or worse (oftentimes worse) regardless of the cost, Mr. House is out for Humanity’s imperial destiny exclusively and uses Vegas as a tool to achieve that regardless of the cost in human misery so long as he’s not politically or physically threatened, but that’s no different from any other decently effective politician. Both are evil, don’t try to say otherwise.
I would love for there to have been able to been a line where you could call out his hypocrisy about the strip and such
Interesting how little he thinks of anything that isn't his own mind
Talks about everything outside of his purview as if they're cavemen banging rocks when the both the NCR and the Legion are massive industrial societies with potentially millions of people each with trade, travel, crafts and science (Though in diametrically opposite ways)
Really shows how much he thinks of himself as a legitimate savior
what i love about his lines is that they sound like he is saying them in real time
It's my 4th playthrough, this time I used tale of two wastelands. Going into the Mojave with boosted stats opened so many unique dialogues. So many questions I had for over a DECADE about this game were all answered, through in game dialogue. The plot holds up after a whole ass decade. Insane, I love Fallout
“Mr. House, would you mind saying ‘I’m going to count to three. There will not be a four.’?”
I like it when you just tell him you have no questions when you first meet. He said that’s refreshing.
The main reason I side with him is because his voice actor played Odo on Star Trek DS9.
I generally like House, but some things give me serious pause. His main focus is pie in the sky science projects rather than helping the world. The Mojave has only recently gone to shit, but otherwise it's a pretty normal series of small settlements. I don't think giving up on Nevada and California is reasonable. And he only makes some vague allusions to partnering with the Followers, but only out of pragmatism, rather than any humanitarian desire. There's nothing stopping a peaceful Mojave from housing hundreds of thousands of people in a metropolis with the power and water from Hoover Dam. House might make that, but only so much as it would be to build up the tech industry again.
He is megalomaniac and Fallout's version of 19th century robber baron. He may say he's going to lead humanity to brighter future, but I don't buy it. And since you as the courier can get control of Big MT, the most sophisticated research institute in the world, there's no reason to work with House.
And why he should help the Mojave? Is it his obligation or something? If you want to achieve fantasies of heroism go with the Ncr then.
@@SakisLio08Since he appoints himself as the sole autocrat ruling over the entire region? Yes, he should help the Mojave.
@@Todarain crying about a videogame character lol
@@SakisLio08 Hey man, I'm only as into this as you are
His voice actor, who also plays Odo in Star Trek, was so freaking good.
I wish they had an ending for how I worked with Mr. House. Sure in the end I gave him everything he wanted, but I made sure that it was like pulling teeth with baseball gloves for him. And I always tried to leave him guessing what I'd do next.
My favorite characters:
1. Courier Six
2. Ulysses
3. Joshua Graham
4. Mr. House
Mine are Benny, Joshua Graham, Mr House and no bark noonan
had to do another fallout new Vegas play through recently on stream just to show people that house is literally the only choice that makes sense.
New personality acquired
"I much prefer working with robots" 😂😂😂 same bro
Annoying Mr House is like the that scene from Spongebob where Squidward was asking the magic conch for food, except the conch is the Courier and Squidward is Mr House
You are making me question your usefulness.
Oh you mean the question about President Kimball getting his head blown out by a Legion sniper??
My Judgment☠️
Black Crown
I kinda wish you could have healed ceaser when siding with house,
Mmm Chip
No. The com-pu-ter chip.
@@Jasper-hf2du (co) mmm (pu-ter) chip
@@abeautifulduwang just-give-me-the-chip!
mmm chip
Holy shit, didn’t he play the old acting teacher on Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
the gang probably would make someone go that crazy
Say what you will about Mr. House, but he was right about the Brotherhood of Steel
You would think with a line like “I’ll make sure the trains run on time” House would have been compared to fascists but I haven’t seen any discussion on it. Not to imply as though he is cause clearly the man is still a capitalist at heart.
He doesn’t care what you’re selling or who you’re selling to, only that he gets his cut. But that’s mostly due to the fact that securitrons are canonically unstoppable with the mk II OS, unless you broke the game balance with a critical build or with a super slam/stonewall melee build, or if you’re using the one-of-a-kind pulse gun or the sonic emitters.
He's an expression of American libertarianism in its individualistic ideal. Objectivism even. The fundamental flaws with that particular ideology are self-evident to anyone with a working brain, but they pale in comparison to fascism's proto-religious zeal and paranoid schizophrenia about the "others" used to manipulate the rubes of a fascist society. The two kinds often ally with each other, but ultimately the ideologies inevitably conflict.
The legion are probably the closest to fascism in FNV (not that the label really fits them either, they reject industry/progress outright after all).
In F4 it's the BoS who play that role, but the writing of that game pales in comparison.
@@that_heretic He's not objectivist, or a libertarian; he's a dictator.
@@billjacobs521he prefers the term autocrat, but at least he doesn’t hide it
He’s an autocrat after all, he’s most comparable to Lee Kuan Yew (Singapore President)
good golly, please give us more than 05 seconds to read your lines of dialogue...
3:12 based
Rest in peace Rene, thank you for my childhood ❤
7:31
My Couriers definitely always deliver his chip to him.
They are under contract after all.
I describe the four major factions as follows; House is the best option, while the Legion is the based option. The NCR is the soy option, and if you are going the Yes Man route you probably have an IQ whose numerical equivalent is that of room temperature...
This so awesome. Is this every one of his lines?
House is talking a lot of shit concidering how suprisingly weak the securitrons protecting him are, I went in with my character that had absolutely zero combat capibilities and still solod the entire place
cut content most likely.
You titled the video this, yet FNV also has Joshua Graham... I dunno man, sounds like cap
Might be true, but the dialogue in general is just fantastic in this game. Even some of the unimportant NPC's have memorable dialogue, and I'm not even talking about the Nuclear Winter line.
2:33 is the platinum chip the one ring or something?
It’s the key to house’s victory, or yours
The Fallout show did a good job with his character appearance.
One of a few things that show did good.
no it didnt
I don't understand how anybody could betray Mr House
I mean, he literally tells you hes planning on becoming an autocrat.
@@CatManThree is that a problem? "If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows"
That’s what is so cool about it, the House ending is my favorite too but everyone is different and has their own moral compass and so they will play this game differently
@@gladiatorone9023 Dictatorships historically never end well significantly moreso.
@@CatManThree That's not true though, there have been "positive" dictatorships, such as Kemal Ataturk, Henry IV, Tito's Yugoslavia (without said dictatorship race wars broke out), the Five Good Emperors, Wu Zetian etc. House is essentially a "kind-of" Ataturk, only with more emphasis on technological progress and less emphasis on moralism,
So from what I could gather, Mr. House is the Enclave, but the player can actually side with him.
In what way is he like the enclave aside from the autocracy? 1.a enclave wants to bring back America 1.b mr house thinks that the world is better off without America since they’re the ones that caused this mess in the first place 2.a mr house rules the strip with a planned economy very similarly to how Singapore and China runs their economy 2.b enclave rules their land through direct military control 3.a the enclave are a bunch of race purists who think everybody Outside of the oil rig are mutants and therefore should be terminated 3.b mr house doesn’t care how mutated you are just as long as you’re not hurting his customers or getting in the way of his ambitions and those are only the differences I could think of at the top of my head there are likely way more
@@faresalsayed9005 The Enclave’s end goal is to get an interstellar colony ship off Earth. Everything else is ancillary to that. Mr. House had an issue with “democracy”, in actuality an oligarchy with him not on top. He would be doing almost the exact same things as the Enclave, minus FEV shenanigans. Mr. House maintains control via his army of securitrons. Without them, the Boot Riders, Sawneys, and Slither Kin would probably still be raider tribing along.
The Enclave is racist af because they want genetically “pure” humans for breeding stock or simply a recruiting pool. Mr. House has robots, and lots of them.
The Enclave also vilifies mutants, and humans that are tainted with even the most minute genetic mutations. When they offer sanctuaries to waste landers, they scan them if they have any mutations, and if they test positive, they get killed on the spot while the next human in line takes his place to get scanned for entry.
I don't see how Mr.house is like the Enclave.
@@god-exoofman6086 democracy is two wolves & a lamb voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
@@Archedgar And eventually the democratic nation separates into two ideological poles, forms parties based on those poles, and enters a Cold War with each other.
Nothing of note gets accomplished from that point on. Any time anything starts to get accomplished, the other party tears it down. Repeat ad nauseam as the parties gain or lose power. Both parties eventually realize that there will be no further progress for the country, much less either parties goals being realized unless one party or the other secures total, permanent control of the government. Power plays grow less and less subtle as the stalemate stretches on. Tempers flare. The two parties eventually start seeing each other as the Enemy, rather than fellow citizens. Both sides dehumanize the other.
The end result is inevitably Civil War. Civil War that continues until one ideology rules and the other ideology dies to the last man. The country is is ruins afterwards, no matter who eventually wins.
"I came here with an open mind, but your arrogance has doomed humanity to slavery. Hail Caesar!"
This is just so wrong on all sorts of levels, I can’t dissect this, I’d feel too bad.
@@jonathanwells223 two words: role-playing game
INTJ personality type? 🤔
As a INTJ personality type, I always side with House.
ah yes, flawed categorizations of personalities is truly something to base your decision making on.