There are many dozens of factors that go into grip, hand size is only 1. I’m 52, I’ve been playing for 46 years. I play to an 8 hcp, and my seasonal range is from 5 to 9. All my life I’ve played a Standard grip. Recently, my hands have begun hurting, and I’m getting trigger finger in my left ring finger and pinky. It was suggested that I try a midsize grip. I chose the the golf pride tour velvet midsize plus 4. The results have been shocking. Traditionally I fight a death grip, the plus4 has reduced my grip strength. My club head speed increased from 107 to 113. My normal big fade is now a high baby fade. There is more carry distance, but total distance is roughly similar in the 290’s, so my shot shape has been optimized in my opinion. So for myself, my choice in a much thicker grip is a result in 1, lightening my grip to reduce pain and moving pressure points to end the trigger finger. My hand size had nothing to do with it as I wear a med/lrg glove. Certainly not large enough to justify the midsize plus 4. Everyone is different. Be open minded to what works for you.
totally agree i am same handicap and 58 i changed to the jumbo max str8 ultralite XL they work a treat and wont change.......they are now going on the irons same grip but in medium😂😂😂😂
Genuinely these recent technical videos with Sam, have been some of the best golf videos I have watched on RUclips!!! I am a golf nerd though and love this kind of information, it really shows how a great club fitter like Sam can make a huge differences in a golfers game. Keep up the great work Gaz!
Thanks Sean, really appreciate the comment. We’ve found a gem in Sam. You can tell with Sam, he’s not chasing the money, he’s chasing results, he’s a really fitter who cares, not just a salesmen like other places.
Thanks Gary...I have always been fitted in places that do not have the ability to change grip size, so I have been fitted with standard grips and order clubs with oversized grips. When I get the clubs, I don't hit them anywhere near as well. I have just recently figured out that depending on the grip, there can be 20-30 grams difference in grip weight, which significantly lowers the swing weight. The Winn DriTac 2.0 Oversized are similar to the Golf Pride Tour Velvet Standard in weight, which is the factory grip for most brands.
I use midsize grips with 3 wraps, too help me not have a miss left. But I make sure swing weight I'd D5 so we add weight to the head after changing the grip
Thank you Gary. I learned tons about how changing the grip weight changes the swing weight. Never really thought about how much the oversized grip changes the physics of the club. I have oversized grips on my driver and now I understand why I get the misses I do.
I've been struggling with this exactly issue. I'm in my 50s and have been suffering with arthritis in my hands, so went to thicker grips and as tacky a model as I could find. With the midsize grips, I struggle with a fade to slice. I'd love to go back to standard to get more release, but I don't think my hands could handle it. I saw another RUclipsr test the JumboMax grips and he said you have to put the grip in your palm on your lead hand, which is a cardinal sin for most golf instruction... like you said, you really have to change your swing to use the really big grips. The video really shows the importance of swing weight as well as grip size.
You may need more weight in the head, but if that’s going to make the mass too heavy, it maybe lighter mass shafts before you add thinking grips and more weight to the head.
Wow Gary, this was eye opening! Great video. 👏 I’ve had fittings (especially driver), ordered the clubs, then instantly changed to midsize grips without a care in the world. No wonder I’ve been left scratching my head as to why I hit them so much better during the fitting. I might be revisiting some of my grips next season!
Crazy isn’t it, I’ve done Exactly the same! Order brand new ping irons, had them sent grip less and fitted some midsized myself as it was cheaper than their up-charges, now my swing weights are C1 when they should have been pings standard D5 for 1/2” longer. Definitely something to check and get right, it will make a difference. You could maybe google the weight of grip the club originally had, and try to find a midsized grip the same weight. Apparently, Winn do light midsized grips.
The cpx grips are great in the summer but are very hard in the fall and spring. Thazs why I play the cp2 grips. Jumbo because of Arthritis in my hands.
Thanks for doing these kind of videos. It has me thinking about my club setup. I used to play a Callaway Sub Zero epic sub zero, with more weight in the front port, 17g in front versus 12g stock, and I swung it really well. I have a taylormade Stealth 2+, and it isn't as consistent as I did with the epic (had to replace it due to face cracked down the middle). l will need to go somewhere that will do swing weight fitting, or tinker myself (live too far away from Sam).
I’ve just changed my grips from standard with two wraps to the mcc plus 4 and 3 wraps, I did this as I was getting a bit of aching middle finger knuckle, it has definitely altered the weight of the clubs they feel a lot heavier now. I’m going for a fitting with Sam on Wednesday so will get him to check them out👍
Great video. So many different factors go into "feel" and can affect your timing. I would have been curious to see how it would have worked had you stayed with the original CTX standard grip and then added a couple of strips of tape in order to build it up closer to midsize grip diameter without changing swingweight by much.
Jumbomax ultralite in XS are actually 43G grips, so lighter than most standard/midsize grips which are usually 10G heavier generally before any extra wraps of tape so possibly about 15G difference. I have the Jumbomax Ultralite Str8fit XS fitted on all my clubs after playing midsize for years without having any prolonged decent consistency from them, slightly bigger than a normal jumbo, I play to 3 H'cap, massively improved my all round game. a slight decrease in overall swing-weight if anything and i can feel the club head better now, cheers 👍
Yeah. We were talking about them in the video, and sam said he only knows of jumbo max and Winn that offer a selection of lighter oversized grips which makes sense for pro shops and retailers who don’t have the ability to re balance clubs.
Proper info, great work boys, enjoyable watch to, sometimes the more technical videos on YT can be a bit boring, but this whole series has been a great watch
Cheers Pete. I’m loving learning more about club fitting, it’s changed my whole views to how much club fitting can actually help now (if done to the full measures).
Yes! I used to use GP midsize but they are too heavy, switched to Jumbomax Ultralite ST 8.XS on all my irons..and woods , except driver..which has Standard Jumbomax ultra lite XS ...on my 50 ,56 58 wedges I am using Superstroke cross comfort Oversize..with 4 wraps of tape; they are also very light so they are easy to adjust the headweight..the superstokes are nice and soft and sensitive. The CPX are also heavy ,and longer , better on wedges imo ...Ha I,m playing PING i230 , so it is easy to change the weight of the head ,with their tungsten head weights,.. once you have found your preffered weight with lead tape.. Massive improvements in accuracy and club speed all round......
I have to say Gary and Sam, these videos are great and Im really enjoying them! One really big thing to take from this and something I may look at in the future, when your looking at irons something like PXG could be a great option because of the weights in the back its so easy to get swing weights dialled in as opposed to lead tape etc
By changing to midsize grip after the emergence of arthritis, i have made irons that were already too heavy even heavier. I am going to get custom fit irons and grip size is now more in my thoughts. Thanks for this video Gary, very informative.
Definitely Gary, irons were fitted 15 years ago. X20 tours with project x 6.0 shafts. I had a work related break from golf for 8 years and just back now I've retired. Most likely graphite shafts needed these days and I will place my trust in the fitting process.
Now that was a very eye-opening vlog Gaz, especially after the chat we had about my iron shafts. When I got fitted, they didn't have the grips I wanted so they put mid-size grips on them and I've hated them from the day I collected them. Might try a grip change before a shaft change. Arghhh more things to think about..... Lol 😂
I love my jumbo grips. I got fitted for midsize, but jumbo on my drivers feels so right. Then on my back up set of irons I put jumbo small and love them.
Great video I am personally thinking of changing my grips as I have XL glove and I'm currently using standard grips definitely going to have to see your man before the start of the season
So going from standard to XL will move your swing weight approximately -4, so yeah, it’s definitely worth hitting women with sam and feeling that, and the add some weight back into the head if required.
Thanks, guys for the great info. I have been interested in the CP2 grips. Maybe this is my answer. I try to stay with a similar grip weight when changing.
With James? I’m not sure about that, my irons have gone away for swing weights doing. We’re playing next week, but I’ve got no irons atm, I’m going to have to borrow a set off him.
A quick question for your mate in the vid gary, he said he plays c9 in his driver, just wondered what swing weight he plays in his irons, wedges and woods? Keep up the interesting topics boys👍
Very good video. This is why a company like Winn has excellent grip offerings if you don’t want to change a swing weight. You can get multiple sizes that all weigh the same amount because they use composite materials and not pure rubber.
Great video, I took my self fitted driver into local driving range / shop, asked the guy if he could possibly check the swing weight for me, he said what was that and he’s not been asked that ever…:(, they didn’t have a machine. Time to go a bit further a field..:)
Great video, and many will be looking to swap grips on the strength of that the content within. There's an awful lot of fake grips on the market too, which can be quite a bit heavier than they should be so take care and buy from an authentic retailer....and try not to look to hard at the price. Changing grips is not a cheap exercise these days...
Yeah, I would agree. We do research the fakes just for illustrational purposes, but we do of course recommend the genuine products for many reasons stated in our fake testing vlogs. Thanks for watching.
They've caught me out for sure. I switched from a std 360 grip to a midsize, and the grip was 20g heavier than the published spec.....the club swing weight went from D2.5 to something like D9@@garymartingolf
To be clear not all c9 swing weights are the same. You can make a really heavy static weight c9, and this is why swing weight isn't a standard measurement you should go off of.
Really interesting learning about the importance of swing weight. With the exception of putter, should all of your clubs be the same swing weight? My wedges have slightly lighter shafts than my irons but I believe that’s more due to the shaft flex being softer. I tend not to hit full shots with my wedges.
Swing weight with the exception of putter should be similar, however, sam said that a your playing would typically have a couple of weights heavy in wedges than irons, and a couple of weights lighter in woods than irons. Hope that helps.
Good video. A 15hcp golfer should know their s.w. and be able to tell the difference. It’s also risky buying 2nd hand clubs unless you can measure their s.w. and compare it to your known s.w. otherwise you go down a Rabbit Hole you will never get out off.
Hope you got my email response. I do fancy coming out at some point in the future. Loved the video! I just can’t believe I’ve overlooked it with my own clubs all this time. SW completely changed the ball flight!
Went midsize one layer of tap few years ago on driver and woods but have 3 layers of tap under standard z grip aligns in my irons to make them midsize 🎉 but have on pxg jumbo on 7 wood and love it. Tried the jumbo maxs in their small, medium and large but couldn’t get on with them just became blocks all the time 😂
This is interesting as I just went to midsize from standard with two wraps and I’m struggling with a loss of distance and face control. I went this way because of pain with arthritis. My swing weight is now c9 but I think it was d 2. Any advice?
I ordered a Jumbomax online on a used club and HATED it. Didn't even make one swing with it - immediately swapped to my midsize grip. Plus the Jumbomax had very hard/stiff feeling - not pleasant at all.
Hey guys…liked this post…I have a set of Ping G430 irons with jumbo grips…my shafts were pured with the jumbo grips…if I got to a midsize grips, would that change the puring that I had done on my irons with the jumbo grips???
I currently have Golfpride Tour Velvet Midsize grips on pretty much every thing am gonna try the Golf Pride MCC +4 midsize grips on a couple of my woods to see if i like them and if i do like them will switch them all will the swing weight be much different you think ? your thoughts ? thx for your videos cheers from Vulcan Canada
Hi Valcan, hope you’re well. It will lighten the swing weight by approximately 1-2 points. If after changing them your clubs don’t feel as nice, you could always add 2-4 grams of weight using lead tape to the heads.
It’s a great question, am I’m not entirely sure!? 🙁 Hopefully Sam see’s this and jumps into the comments. My bags all over the place! Irons C9! New driver D7 😭
I switched to the small size Jumobomax ultralite grips (there's actually a sizing chart for your hand size as optimal). I love them, and I've never felt like I've flushed shots as good as with these grips. It takes a little getting used to, but I honestly don't think that's a bad thing.
I have jumbo max medium through out the bag, love em but I have the hand size for it. I wear an XL glove, standard grips to me is like holding a #2 pencil 😂
I found out through feeling what it felt like swinging clubs with different weights in the head to get a feeling I liked. You must also consider what ball flight you’re aspiring to create. Eg. Heavy helps slow release, light helps release. It’s different to do at home, as you’d need a full weight kit which even the manufacturers don’t supply.
That’s a great question. They say two wraps, but I think to get them to midsized it’s nearer 4 to 5. I’m not sure how much weight that would add, but you’ve given me an idea 😂
@garymartingolf yea, I'm in process of changing grips on irons. My fitter didn't test grips but threw in at the end that he was going to add 3 wraps to make them more midsized. I tested and love the midsize MCC +4 in my 7 iron and am going to change entire set now. I was just wondering because I had spent a bit of time weighting my shirt irons that felt too light and was wondering if I'm going to have to go down that road again.
Getting a Takomo ignis 5 wood (which comes with 3 seperate head weights) (15g 20g and 25g) so if i put a oversize grip on i should increase the standard 15g to the 25g??
I’d say the 20g for midsized and 25g for jumbo to keep the swing weight as close to standard as possible. Its hard to guess as all grips weigh different, but if we was taking calculated guess, that’s the best I could do
Gaz, I find the grip (for me anyway) the most important part of the club. I get all my feel from the grip and pressure which really starts the tempo of my swing. The current system sucks for trying grip size and I want to go a thicker grip (midsize + n-number of wraps) but literally no good way to test it. HELP?!
You can alter grip size without increasing weight to any real degree , a heavier grip would actually make the club ‘feel’ lighter . Its much more noticeable with shaft changes , put a sub 120 shaft in a wedge and it may carry further but it’ll feel like a brick on a stick . Personally i dont think different size grips help with hooks or slices or much else apart from arthritis or hand size it should just be what you know and like and brings a confident feel to your hands . Its just another rabbit hole for rabbits .
The number of adverts is becoming a joke. I realise that there have to be adverts, but the numbers are ever increasing literally every couple of minutes. An interesting video ruined.
The golf club is a tool designed to propel a small ball. As with everything in life the more experienced and better one gets the better tools are required. Mr Average will use a £5 hammer to hammer nails, an experienced carpenter would use a balanced top notch £100 hammer. All this fitting and swing weights ect may be beneficial to the elite but to your average hammer swinger does it really make that much difference? I would say Cat1 golfers and better may benefit but hey what do I know apart from how to make a banging cuppa ☕️ 😊
That’s an absolute fantastic comment, and it’s a question I want to answer, by taking a high handicapper for a tour level fitting. It may prove not to have the result I had with my driver fit, but I’d love to know what it would do.
Personally I think it is more important for a less skilled golfer as top pros can manipulate ill fitting clubs more . Just watch tour pros hitting 'box set clubs' with whippy shafts , they still score under par !! A less skilled player will be slicing or hooking for fun, with wrong shaft weight and swing weight and thinking its just his swing !! Trust me i was that guy 😂
@@mikecooke2357 I can absolutely see your point and would really love to see not a high handicap player but a mid teen golfer who has a certain level of basic skill and club control along with a decent understanding of the game. A high handicap player may gain massive results just because the fitting clubs are a massive upgrade on his/her/they/them/he/she/it’s daily gamers. Would be interesting 🤔
I always welcome constructive criticism. If you felt like it dragged out, it’s only because I was so infused by this subject, so I didn’t want to cut out all the b roll and small talk.
There are many dozens of factors that go into grip, hand size is only 1.
I’m 52, I’ve been playing for 46 years. I play to an 8 hcp, and my seasonal range is from 5 to 9. All my life I’ve played a Standard grip. Recently, my hands have begun hurting, and I’m getting trigger finger in my left ring finger and pinky. It was suggested that I try a midsize grip. I chose the the golf pride tour velvet midsize plus 4.
The results have been shocking. Traditionally I fight a death grip, the plus4 has reduced my grip strength. My club head speed increased from 107 to 113. My normal big fade is now a high baby fade. There is more carry distance, but total distance is roughly similar in the 290’s, so my shot shape has been optimized in my opinion.
So for myself, my choice in a much thicker grip is a result in 1, lightening my grip to reduce pain and moving pressure points to end the trigger finger. My hand size had nothing to do with it as I wear a med/lrg glove. Certainly not large enough to justify the midsize plus 4.
Everyone is different. Be open minded to what works for you.
totally agree i am same handicap and 58 i changed to the jumbo max str8 ultralite XL they work a treat and wont change.......they are now going on the irons same grip but in medium😂😂😂😂
Genuinely these recent technical videos with Sam, have been some of the best golf videos I have watched on RUclips!!!
I am a golf nerd though and love this kind of information, it really shows how a great club fitter like Sam can make a huge differences in a golfers game.
Keep up the great work Gaz!
Thanks Sean, really appreciate the comment. We’ve found a gem in Sam. You can tell with Sam, he’s not chasing the money, he’s chasing results, he’s a really fitter who cares, not just a salesmen like other places.
Thanks Gary...I have always been fitted in places that do not have the ability to change grip size, so I have been fitted with standard grips and order clubs with oversized grips. When I get the clubs, I don't hit them anywhere near as well. I have just recently figured out that depending on the grip, there can be 20-30 grams difference in grip weight, which significantly lowers the swing weight. The Winn DriTac 2.0 Oversized are similar to the Golf Pride Tour Velvet Standard in weight, which is the factory grip for most brands.
I use midsize grips with 3 wraps, too help me not have a miss left. But I make sure swing weight I'd D5 so we add weight to the head after changing the grip
Thank you Gary. I learned tons about how changing the grip weight changes the swing weight. Never really thought about how much the oversized grip changes the physics of the club. I have oversized grips on my driver and now I understand why I get the misses I do.
Thanks for watching. Really pleased to share this one, as I was so surprised too, and it was something I never really gave much thought too before.
I've been struggling with this exactly issue. I'm in my 50s and have been suffering with arthritis in my hands, so went to thicker grips and as tacky a model as I could find. With the midsize grips, I struggle with a fade to slice. I'd love to go back to standard to get more release, but I don't think my hands could handle it. I saw another RUclipsr test the JumboMax grips and he said you have to put the grip in your palm on your lead hand, which is a cardinal sin for most golf instruction... like you said, you really have to change your swing to use the really big grips. The video really shows the importance of swing weight as well as grip size.
You may need more weight in the head, but if that’s going to make the mass too heavy, it maybe lighter mass shafts before you add thinking grips and more weight to the head.
@@garymartingolf Lead tape is much cheaper than shafts, and is removable. I might try adding some weight first to see if it makes a difference!
That’s a real eye opener for a lot of golfers Gaz, I was luckily enough to be aware of this and that’s only because of Jason at Club Champion
Wow Gary, this was eye opening! Great video. 👏
I’ve had fittings (especially driver), ordered the clubs, then instantly changed to midsize grips without a care in the world. No wonder I’ve been left scratching my head as to why I hit them so much better during the fitting. I might be revisiting some of my grips next season!
Crazy isn’t it, I’ve done Exactly the same! Order brand new ping irons, had them sent grip less and fitted some midsized myself as it was cheaper than their up-charges, now my swing weights are C1 when they should have been pings standard D5 for 1/2” longer.
Definitely something to check and get right, it will make a difference. You could maybe google the weight of grip the club originally had, and try to find a midsized grip the same weight. Apparently, Winn do light midsized grips.
I can see Gary changing to PXG irons, just because of all the customisation thats available with all the weights
Very interesting never thought that it would change swing weight iv always used standard size grips mmm something to look at 😊well done gaz
Yeah, if you wanted a lighter swing weight, a thicker grip would help!
The cpx grips are great in the summer but are very hard in the fall and spring. Thazs why I play the cp2 grips. Jumbo because of Arthritis in my hands.
Thank you Gary and Sam for the video. I'm due a grip change and interested in sw and lie angle. May have to give you a visit
Thanks for doing these kind of videos. It has me thinking about my club setup. I used to play a Callaway Sub Zero epic sub zero, with more weight in the front port, 17g in front versus 12g stock, and I swung it really well. I have a taylormade Stealth 2+, and it isn't as consistent as I did with the epic (had to replace it due to face cracked down the middle). l will need to go somewhere that will do swing weight fitting, or tinker myself (live too far away from Sam).
I’ve just changed my grips from standard with two wraps to the mcc plus 4 and 3 wraps, I did this as I was getting a bit of aching middle finger knuckle, it has definitely altered the weight of the clubs they feel a lot heavier now. I’m going for a fitting with Sam on Wednesday so will get him to check them out👍
Great video. So many different factors go into "feel" and can affect your timing. I would have been curious to see how it would have worked had you stayed with the original CTX standard grip and then added a couple of strips of tape in order to build it up closer to midsize grip diameter without changing swingweight by much.
Jumbomax ultralite in XS are actually 43G grips, so lighter than most standard/midsize grips which are usually 10G heavier generally before any extra wraps of tape so possibly about 15G difference. I have the Jumbomax Ultralite Str8fit XS fitted on all my clubs after playing midsize for years without having any prolonged decent consistency from them, slightly bigger than a normal jumbo, I play to 3 H'cap, massively improved my all round game. a slight decrease in overall swing-weight if anything and i can feel the club head better now, cheers 👍
Yeah. We were talking about them in the video, and sam said he only knows of jumbo max and Winn that offer a selection of lighter oversized grips which makes sense for pro shops and retailers who don’t have the ability to re balance clubs.
Proper info, great work boys, enjoyable watch to, sometimes the more technical videos on YT can be a bit boring, but this whole series has been a great watch
Cheers Pete. I’m loving learning more about club fitting, it’s changed my whole views to how much club fitting can actually help now (if done to the full measures).
Yes! I used to use GP midsize but they are too heavy, switched to Jumbomax Ultralite ST 8.XS on all my irons..and woods , except driver..which has Standard Jumbomax ultra lite XS ...on my 50 ,56 58 wedges I am using Superstroke cross comfort Oversize..with 4 wraps of tape; they are also very light so they are easy to adjust the headweight..the superstokes are nice and soft and sensitive. The CPX are also heavy ,and longer , better on wedges imo ...Ha
I,m playing PING i230 , so it is easy to change the weight of the head ,with their tungsten head weights,..
once you have found your preffered weight with lead tape.. Massive improvements in accuracy and club speed all round......
Good video Gaz. I’d love to see a WITB with you and Sam and what you are currently at and where you plan on going.
It’s got to be done. This one fitting has turned my bag inside down 😅
I have to say Gary and Sam, these videos are great and Im really enjoying them! One really big thing to take from this and something I may look at in the future, when your looking at irons something like PXG could be a great option because of the weights in the back its so easy to get swing weights dialled in as opposed to lead tape etc
Great point actually, not thought of that! It does really require weight ports to be able to fine tune irons 👌🏼
By changing to midsize grip after the emergence of arthritis, i have made irons that were already too heavy even heavier. I am going to get custom fit irons and grip size is now more in my thoughts. Thanks for this video Gary, very informative.
Cheers David. Sounds like you need some lighter (mass) shafts, order with midsized so that they swing weight them accordingly.
Definitely Gary, irons were fitted 15 years ago. X20 tours with project x 6.0 shafts. I had a work related break from golf for 8 years and just back now I've retired. Most likely graphite shafts needed these days and I will place my trust in the fitting process.
If you change to jumbo max ultralight grips, the grip weight is lighter than normal grips. Jumbo max ultralight medium grip is only 47g
That was a fantastic video. Really explains a lot. Thank you very much.
When Ping UK changed my shafts from steel to graphite the clubs were re-swung. I play much better with C8-C9 in irons and no more slices.
Excellently really interesting. Im def changing my driver grip back to what style it was. Thanks.
Thanks Colin. 👌🏼
Now that was a very eye-opening vlog Gaz, especially after the chat we had about my iron shafts. When I got fitted, they didn't have the grips I wanted so they put mid-size grips on them and I've hated them from the day I collected them.
Might try a grip change before a shaft change.
Arghhh more things to think about..... Lol 😂
I love my jumbo grips. I got fitted for midsize, but jumbo on my drivers feels so right. Then on my back up set of irons I put jumbo small and love them.
Great video I am personally thinking of changing my grips as I have XL glove and I'm currently using standard grips definitely going to have to see your man before the start of the season
So going from standard to XL will move your swing weight approximately -4, so yeah, it’s definitely worth hitting women with sam and feeling that, and the add some weight back into the head if required.
Thanks, guys for the great info. I have been interested in the CP2 grips. Maybe this is my answer. I try to stay with a similar grip weight when changing.
A very informative and interesting video. Well done.
Thanks Graeme 👌🏼
Time for the end of 2023 match; Gary you’ve got your clubs figured out now let’s do this!!!!
With James? I’m not sure about that, my irons have gone away for swing weights doing. We’re playing next week, but I’ve got no irons atm, I’m going to have to borrow a set off him.
his garage has lots of irons. No, wait for yours. Time to make him humble. And don’t ask what the course record is! Lol
well informed video loved it! keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching Mark
Superinteresting!
I might add a little weight added beneath my grips when fit New ones on to get rid of my slice 😅
A quick question for your mate in the vid gary, he said he plays c9 in his driver, just wondered what swing weight he plays in his irons, wedges and woods? Keep up the interesting topics boys👍
Very good question! A few people have asked questions about things I can’t answer, so I’ve text him to get in the comments 👍🏼
What is the adapter that is used with the air compressor? The one I use just fits into the hole in the grip but that would looks sturdier.
Very good video. This is why a company like Winn has excellent grip offerings if you don’t want to change a swing weight. You can get multiple sizes that all weigh the same amount because they use composite materials and not pure rubber.
They really need to market this more! I didn’t even know this until we did the video. It’s so important!
@@garymartingolf it’s a massive factor that affects everyone differently, that’s why fitting is so critical . Keep up the good work 🏌🏻♂️
Great video, I took my self fitted driver into local driving range / shop, asked the guy if he could possibly check the swing weight for me, he said what was that and he’s not been asked that ever…:(, they didn’t have a machine. Time to go a bit further a field..:)
Great video, and many will be looking to swap grips on the strength of that the content within. There's an awful lot of fake grips on the market too, which can be quite a bit heavier than they should be so take care and buy from an authentic retailer....and try not to look to hard at the price. Changing grips is not a cheap exercise these days...
Yeah, I would agree. We do research the fakes just for illustrational purposes, but we do of course recommend the genuine products for many reasons stated in our fake testing vlogs. Thanks for watching.
They've caught me out for sure. I switched from a std 360 grip to a midsize, and the grip was 20g heavier than the published spec.....the club swing weight went from D2.5 to something like D9@@garymartingolf
To be clear not all c9 swing weights are the same. You can make a really heavy static weight c9, and this is why swing weight isn't a standard measurement you should go off of.
Really interesting learning about the importance of swing weight. With the exception of putter, should all of your clubs be the same swing weight? My wedges have slightly lighter shafts than my irons but I believe that’s more due to the shaft flex being softer. I tend not to hit full shots with my wedges.
Swing weight with the exception of putter should be similar, however, sam said that a your playing would typically have a couple of weights heavy in wedges than irons, and a couple of weights lighter in woods than irons. Hope that helps.
Good video. A 15hcp golfer should know their s.w. and be able to tell the difference. It’s also risky buying 2nd hand clubs unless you can measure their s.w. and compare it to your known s.w. otherwise you go down a Rabbit Hole you will never get out off.
Hope you got my email response. I do fancy coming out at some point in the future. Loved the video!
I just can’t believe I’ve overlooked it with my own clubs all this time. SW completely changed the ball flight!
Winn jumbo lt weigh the same as gp tour velvet Standard
Yeah. More golfers need to know about this 👌🏼
Gone midsized plus4, and it's the best move I ever did
Went midsize one layer of tap few years ago on driver and woods but have 3 layers of tap under standard z grip aligns in my irons to make them midsize 🎉 but have on pxg jumbo on 7 wood and love it. Tried the jumbo maxs in their small, medium and large but couldn’t get on with them just became blocks all the time 😂
All mine are corded grips and don’t feel any slippage on then when I swing out my boots and get the hands moving fast
Another great feast of information.
lamkin sonar wrap midsize 56 grams
what attachment is that for blowing the grips on?
This is interesting as I just went to midsize from standard with two wraps and I’m struggling with a loss of distance and face control. I went this way because of pain with arthritis. My swing weight is now c9 but I think it was d 2. Any advice?
I ordered a Jumbomax online on a used club and HATED it. Didn't even make one swing with it - immediately swapped to my midsize grip. Plus the Jumbomax had very hard/stiff feeling - not pleasant at all.
I didn’t like them either. They’re marmite.
I did the same and put some lead tape on my ping irons👌🏻
Smart! Luckily my irons have some toe weight ports, so Ive got them being sorted and weighted to D7
Hey guys…liked this post…I have a set of Ping G430 irons with jumbo grips…my shafts were pured with the jumbo grips…if I got to a midsize grips, would that change the puring that I had done on my irons with the jumbo grips???
I currently have Golfpride Tour Velvet Midsize grips on pretty much every thing am gonna try the Golf Pride MCC +4 midsize grips on a couple of my woods to see if i like them and if i do like them will switch them all will the swing weight be much different you think ? your thoughts ? thx for your videos cheers from Vulcan Canada
Hi Valcan, hope you’re well. It will lighten the swing weight by approximately 1-2 points. If after changing them your clubs don’t feel as nice, you could always add 2-4 grams of weight using lead tape to the heads.
Really enjoyed this video.
Quick question- should all clubs in the bag have the same swing weight? I suspect mine are all over the place
It’s a great question, am I’m not entirely sure!? 🙁 Hopefully Sam see’s this and jumps into the comments.
My bags all over the place! Irons C9! New driver D7 😭
I use the JUMBOMAX XL,,I DO HAVE LARGE HANDS,BUT IT ALSO IS MUCH EASIER ON MY HANDS,AFTER THE RANGE MY HANDS DONT HURT,
And not a lot of extra weight
Golf Pride is a North Carolina based company in the USA 🇺🇸
They make fantastic quality grips 👌🏼
I switched to the small size Jumobomax ultralite grips (there's actually a sizing chart for your hand size as optimal). I love them, and I've never felt like I've flushed shots as good as with these grips. It takes a little getting used to, but I honestly don't think that's a bad thing.
I have jumbo max medium through out the bag, love em but I have the hand size for it. I wear an XL glove, standard grips to me is like holding a #2 pencil 😂
Inspired me to try a larger grip. Hoping it helps tame left side miss 😂
Hi Gary & sam. How do you find out what your swing weight should be ?
Would your swing weight be the same in all your clubs ?
I found out through feeling what it felt like swinging clubs with different weights in the head to get a feeling I liked. You must also consider what ball flight you’re aspiring to create. Eg. Heavy helps slow release, light helps release.
It’s different to do at home, as you’d need a full weight kit which even the manufacturers don’t supply.
@garymartingolf thanks for your knowledge. I am 63 , so would you say I would need a lighter shaft for the tokomo 201 ? I am thinking of graphic ..
@@garryhaworth2214 do they offer a graphite option? If not, a lighter steel shaft may play nice.
@garymartingolf thank you. I will get back to you soon .
I have jumbomax small grips in my driver. Keeps me from snap hooking the driver.
i once put a putter pistol grip on a driver, it was extremely interesting,
Really need the same grip video but with same swing weight for every grip please gents👍👍👍👍
We will definitely do this in the future 👌🏼
If you build up a standard to a midsize using wraps instead of a thicker grip, is that weight comparable or would it be lighter/heavier?
That’s a great question. They say two wraps, but I think to get them to midsized it’s nearer 4 to 5. I’m not sure how much weight that would add, but you’ve given me an idea 😂
@garymartingolf yea, I'm in process of changing grips on irons. My fitter didn't test grips but threw in at the end that he was going to add 3 wraps to make them more midsized. I tested and love the midsize MCC +4 in my 7 iron and am going to change entire set now.
I was just wondering because I had spent a bit of time weighting my shirt irons that felt too light and was wondering if I'm going to have to go down that road again.
@@garymartingolf and also agree.. 2 or 3 wraps are not near midsize to me.
Love my jumbo max on my driver
Getting a Takomo ignis 5 wood (which comes with 3 seperate head weights) (15g 20g and 25g) so if i put a oversize grip on i should increase the standard 15g to the 25g??
See if you can find some AVON CHAMOIS jumbo grips Gary.. they are the most Comfortable grips you can get...
I’d say the 20g for midsized and 25g for jumbo to keep the swing weight as close to standard as possible. Its hard to guess as all grips weigh different, but if we was taking calculated guess, that’s the best I could do
Just to let you know ... put the 25gram weight in the Takomo 5 wood with the oversize grip. Worked a treat.
Gaz, I find the grip (for me anyway) the most important part of the club. I get all my feel from the grip and pressure which really starts the tempo of my swing. The current system sucks for trying grip size and I want to go a thicker grip (midsize + n-number of wraps) but literally no good way to test it. HELP?!
Is there a Web site we can go on to for golf 4u repair
Yeah, it’s www.golfrepairs4u.co.uk.
Ping G430 irons swing weight is D0
Sam must be a damned good fitter if he's got a Yorkshireman willing to part with cash! 😂
Honestly, I wish Id had clubs made by him much sooner. Unreal!
@@garymartingolf Based on what I've seen in this video series, I'd pay him a visit too if not for that pesky Atlantic Ocean
You can alter grip size without increasing weight to any real degree , a heavier grip would actually make the club ‘feel’ lighter .
Its much more noticeable with shaft changes , put a sub 120 shaft in a wedge and it may carry further but it’ll feel like a brick on a stick .
Personally i dont think different size grips help with hooks or slices or much else apart from arthritis or hand size it should just be what you know and like and brings a confident feel to your hands .
Its just another rabbit hole for rabbits .
New drinking game - shot every time Sam says "like I said" when he hasn't said anything before that 🤣
Ahahah 😂
Jumbo max makes light weight jumbo grips.
Yeah, we didn’t talk about some of the sized grips available in a set weight.
Sweet... looking forward to seeing the new clubs...the wife wont...
The number of adverts is becoming a joke. I realise that there have to be adverts, but the numbers are ever increasing literally every couple of minutes. An interesting video ruined.
Watch on something that removes them. On my phone I only use revanced so I never have a single one.
The golf club is a tool designed to propel a small ball. As with everything in life the more experienced and better one gets the better tools are required. Mr Average will use a £5 hammer to hammer nails, an experienced carpenter would use a balanced top notch £100 hammer.
All this fitting and swing weights ect may be beneficial to the elite but to your average hammer swinger does it really make that much difference?
I would say Cat1 golfers and better may benefit but hey what do I know apart from how to make a banging cuppa ☕️ 😊
That’s an absolute fantastic comment, and it’s a question I want to answer, by taking a high handicapper for a tour level fitting. It may prove not to have the result I had with my driver fit, but I’d love to know what it would do.
Personally I think it is more important for a less skilled golfer as top pros can manipulate ill fitting clubs more . Just watch tour pros hitting 'box set clubs' with whippy shafts , they still score under par !! A less skilled player will be slicing or hooking for fun, with wrong shaft weight and swing weight and thinking its just his swing !! Trust me i was that guy 😂
@@mikecooke2357 I can absolutely see your point and would really love to see not a high handicap player but a mid teen golfer who has a certain level of basic skill and club control along with a decent understanding of the game. A high handicap player may gain massive results just because the fitting clubs are a massive upgrade on his/her/they/them/he/she/it’s daily gamers.
Would be interesting 🤔
Midsize Plus 4 is comfortable for me .But ive got big hands for a short arse 🤣
Get rid of that counterbalanced shaft if you want a larger grip size.
My Aliexpress order took 70 days.
Where are you based ? Ali express is definitely worse than temu for delivery time.
You could do this video in half the time. Please consider it. You are losing me
I always welcome constructive criticism. If you felt like it dragged out, it’s only because I was so infused by this subject, so I didn’t want to cut out all the b roll and small talk.
Omg 45 min video on grip size? You guys are losing views based on editing.
It’s not TikTok, I’m not looking for the most views!