My golf coach has been teaching me this forever and it finally clicked. I’ve always been spinning out thinking I need to “open the hips” and “hold the lag”. This is the way. Great video.
Your recent videos have completely transformed my ball striking, ive been trying to get my hips through for years and now I just throw my hands from the top and it’s like magic!! 😂
I have searched through so many videos and reddit forms to try to find the cure to my out to in club path.... finally after watching this video I am making progress. This has truly shortcut my progress to becoming better. Thank you.
I am 72 and been playing over 60 years. Used to be really good (1 handicap) but my wife got sick and I was her caretaker day and night for 3 years until she passed away. You can understand after 3 years my game was pretty much gone. I watched this video, went it the golf course and played insanely well just doing the two things you taught. Swing hasn't felt that good in years. But I have a question: I know I really need another 20 yards with the drive and 10-15 yards per irons to compete with my shark buddies. Can that be accomplished by firing the right arm harder from the top or do I just need to focus on something else. I will watch your other vids and see what I can pick up also. Thanks so MUCH!
Hi Milton, I'm very sorry to hear about your wife.... You can fire the arm as fast as your body is clearing. If your body doesn't clear, you're just going to stick the club in the dirt. I just published a set of videos on this very topic showing me teaching a student who was working on the very same thing, check it out here: rotaryswing.com/lp/learn-the-timing-of-the-release/
@@Rotaryswing Bless you my friend, I will go to work tomorrow. Thank you for helping so many miserable golfers. I live in Arkansas, which I know is a long way from you, but if you ever make down my way I'll buy you a beer and a steak.
I've played golf off and on my hole life.I remember several years ago I got real long for a few years.I don't remember exactly wat I was doing.I only remember I felt like I was swinging in slow motion .I felt like my hands wer almost dead just along for the ride..I was speeding up my arms.Im only 5.9 tall.I do remember I paid close attention to my rt arm as to let it hang at address and trying to keep it close to my side coming through the ball.It was crazy how long I could hit it on a good day.I don't play golf anymore.I want to start playing again.
Yet another great video and hits home for me especially about not needing all the hip rotation as my body just can't do it anyway not being that limber most of my life much less at 65 now. Also, using Lydia Ko is who I've looked at to model tempo and not needing to hit the ball far to try and enjoy golf. She's not number 1 anymore but that swing is enjoyable to watch. Yep, try and square the club before getting the club too close to the ball really makes sense and hopefully attainable for me. Thank you. Pga Tour Champions is for you no doubt.
😮😮😮😮😮This absolutely 💯 made sense and after a few driving range visits I've been able to comfortably step back to "Blue Tees!!!" I'm still a 12 Handicap @57 years old and truth is the mental aspect of allowing my mind to catch up to my abilities was extremely hard to do!!!
Golf is a journey and you never stop learning. This is what I love about the game. All the unique swings with similar elements to get the ball going properly is simply fascinating. From the short guy to the long lanky guy, finding your swing and developing it with good elements is the challenge.
Thanks, this is what i have been looking for. Maybe my back will stop hurting now. I feel like at some point, it became a regular thing to over rotate. I always feel like im fighting something but can't quite put my hands on it. Golf used to be easy for me, lately its felt like nothing but struggle.
A lot of times golfers struggle because they unwittingly are mixing between lead side and trail side dominant patterns. That's why I cover them both on the site
I came from baseball and was hard pull hitter and took me a while to quiet my hips.. Now I’m playing some of my best golf doing exactly what you’re saying… I also started narrowing stance and videos tell u wider for longer drives
Great video once again mate, thanks so much for the upload. What I like to try some time is, take the course card of which course I'm planning to play and almost play like a virtual course, start of with driver, check the mevo for the distance and select a new club and target, think that will also help alot...most important thing will then be not to rush it. Look forward to the next video mate
You are spot on! What happens when you "spin" your hips is that you tend to fall behind with the upper torso. That is, you fall into a backward lateral lean at the hips which guarantees a fat shot. Your shoulders, arms and hands are the primary levers that propel the ball. During the back-swing, I keep my belly button pointed at the ball. It (belly button) does eventually move toward the target but the "turn" is a function of my turning shoulders and swinging arms. It's a swing that looks great, produces a boring shot and finishes in balance. For the average golfer, a highly segmented swing is impossible to sync.
Another GREAT video! Kenny Perry is a sort of forgotten excellent player too - especially from the mid 2000's -2010. I believe he even got up to #2 or #3 in the world in 2009. A shame he couldn't close out the 2009 Masters, he deserved that win.
@@IanPunter exactly right! Yeah I believe he was 48 years old when he would have won that Masters. He had it too! Bogey-Bogey finish did him in. It's sad that fate had a lowlife like Angel Cabrera winning in the end
I am so looking for the no sore back s***!! I have been trying a stack and tilt situation, having a little degree of difficulty and pulling the ball a lot. I've had back surgeries I've had shoulder surgeries I'm 60 and I need less movement and more target
really good advice backswing can be slow but downswing needs to be fast and with a slight lag like I imagine I am swinging a sack of potatoes. This has been something I learned late in life and as you say the body just does its thing and you don't have to think so much about all the moving parts nature takes over
I think it also depends when the hips are moving fast. For example Hogan’s hip movement was very fast, but only from about P6 (club shaft parallel to ground on downswing) to past impact.
Ive been playing since July ‘23 and I’ve only recently felt what effortless pure contact feels like. I would love to see a video with these principles applied to the driver swing and setup. Thanks Chuck!
It’s become clear to me over the last two months that this is the real formula for playing good, consistent golf. Using this method, it’s the first time in my life that my swing doesn’t “change” every single time I play or practice. I thought “what swing will I have today” was just part of golf. That’s all gone and I seem to have the same ball flight and feels every day.
i aim 20 yards right with my irons, strong left grip feel like im turning my back to the target on backswing and crush my irons pretty consistently on target, easy 150 9 irons 170 7 irons, 100 yard sand wedges, but never know where my driver swing is going to be any day, sometimes 280 straight bombs, some days 220 weak pushes and slices, frustrating, guess ill give your system a try, can i overcome my gorilla swing with your system?
oh boy. where to begin... i'm 56, big lanky guy. took up the game in earnest a year ago. practice 5 days per week, lots of lessons. the focus on massive hip windup and snap untwisting is very challenging for me. my back doesn't like it, but i do it because that's what i've been told is the key to speed. it makes me wonder how long i'll be able to play this game.
You wont be able to play very long without back problems swinging like that i can assure you. This will save you body and your sanity rotaryswing.com/c4/112563-throw-the-clubhead-drill
So this looks like a new direction? I've been a follower since your first DVD, the "single plan swing". Then to your name change to the "rotaryswing". So now this looks/sounds like the "no turn/cast swing" or maybe what Tom Tomasello talked about in the video he put together for Lee Deitrick. Which was posted by Lynn Blake. Am I correct... I'm definitely confused. Thanks! I've always enjoyed your video's
I started doing the feel of keeping the brakes on my hips, I hit the ball alot straighter and farther. When I finished my post is fully on my lead leg, golf ⛳ is truly a opposite sport. I always compare it to backing up a trailer.
What I find from the years that I played golf. As long as you find a path, you can use your lower body or your hands or your arms anything as long as the path is right if the past is wrong, you’ll flip your hands you’ll sway you’ll do everything opposite up the proper swing, but when the path is right, everything falls in place, so it doesn’t matter if you use your hips or your hands, a lot of people don’t know how to clear the hips and that’s the biggest problem. They think you have to swing your arms straight but actually you swing your arms back through to the left and a lot of people fight that they end up flipping their hands instead of going naturally around their body, at least I look at it.
Also so glad I tried this today. Flushed it like you won't believe. I'm also glad I learned a rotational swing and let arms follow. It actually gave me the proper feel with your method and the awareness was unbelievable. I was turning, rotating way too much. I hit my 7 iron stock 180yds. I actually for some reason picked up an extra 5 yards. I am a scratch golfer but today carded a 67 with your method, my first time trying it!!My best round in 2 years. 😊😊😊
Awesome round! To answer your question about how to put it together that is covered in the GOAT Code videos on the site here rotaryswing.com/c4/112542-widen-the-lead-wrist
Padraig Harrington says that for the weekend warriors 95% of speed comes from the arms and wrists. Only the true pros gain from firing hips. Malaska says the body follows the hands
Chuck: I saw your video with the student who was incorrectly pulling the handle at the ball. I don't PULL the handle at the ball, I POINT it at the ball and then at the target on the way down and it stops my flipping. There are many videos on this "pointing the handle" rather than focusing on the clubhead. What's your view on this swing key? Thanks.
Not a bad feel if it works for you. I prefer to focus on the club head since that’s what im hitting the ball with. If you’re flipping there are some things happening that need to be corrected and this maybe just a band aid fix. But if it continues to work for you stick with it
Aren’t convinced? Pull up a video of Dennis Walters…man is in a wheelchair and was still able to rip it out there 240 yards plus over and over and over…saw him do this years ago live…unreal…on hand speed, many ams are mistaken in thinking your hands continue to accelerate through the ball…your max speed is usually about 30cm from impact, at which point your hands need to slow and transfer that energy to the head of the club so it can swing through the ball at max speed…it’s pretty normal for max hand speed to be about 20mph about 30cm from the ball and then be moving at about 8mph at impact…
How do you build hand speed but keep the “V” body connection. I don’t feel totally free with the left arm glued to my chest. Thanks 🙏 Also, does your hands cause the weight shift or do you have to shift before you swing?
You can do that if you dont care about your back. There is a crazy amount of rotation swinging that way. It works too but way way too much stress on my body to swing that way. Twist your spine or just use the hands and remove all stress off the body. That’s the decision to make
Tiger before he won the tiger slam said he wants to feel like the hands win the race to impact and exit impact before the hips. Dont worry about the hips. Once the hands work correctly then you can add body forces just like every sport we’ve ever gotten good at
Ok now I am really confused about what to practice to improve my swing. I would consider the instructors in the attached link to be reputable? ruclips.net/video/ifQ2l1LOIBg/видео.htmlsi=Vfmawosb__Z0mxcx
It’s all connected. Put a tour pro in zero G and they will only be able to hit the ball 70 yards no matter how hard they try to move their arms and hands.
Please reconcile your advice with Jack’s devotion to footwork and the amount that he practiced it. I love your advice but now i don’t know what to do with my feet to keep Jack happy. Would Jack like Kenny Perry’s flat heels?
Think about someone whipping a rope or an elite pitcher and that’s what your going for … lower body is quiet bc energy is built up and delivered to wrist.. how can I move my body to get my wrist moving fastest in front of me mindset over how fast can I move my hips … if hips hit max speed … the transfer of energy will be below max speed once it gets to wrist
I use the Jim Veneto method, works fantastic for me! Do pro's swing like that? No, but Im not a pro and never will be.The method eliminates all the movement that contributes to bad ball contact! Shifting, rotating etc.
LOL stop telling people the secret ! Honestly, this is golden. people need to understand that once you speed up on the golf swing, you cannot control(limited) it anymore. so you need to setup your self in a good spot before the downswing. Anything in between is a FEEL which is different from people to people.
No one ever talks about the action of the forearms. It's always the lower body, or the hips, or the hands... Watch that video of Kenny Perry again. His trail forearm is way under the lead arm until.. just before impact. At that point there is massive rotation of the forearms, and the club head speed increases to its max. Steve Stricker does the same thing. So, I don't know how they do it and hit the ball straight, but there is a huge degree of timing involved. It isn't a straight back and straight through swing.
The opposite is true of course. If there was a huge degree of timing they wouldn’t be pros for very long! What you have observed of the forearms is exactly what you want to do, and it is very easy to square the face this way with way less timing
It’s all about tempo, the hips move but you don’t throw them. When you come to a left side onto the front foot your hips automatically move forward. Bobby Jones has a great video showing the this works. If you try to separate this move then you’re asking for trouble.
Do you imply that should keep right foot on the ground and avoid lifting it too quickly? I noticed that the majority of the examples you present are just like the hips are moving but not too over as most of the GURUs on TV try to teach people.
It does create a sense of more stability and control keeping it on the ground but isnt a hard and fast rule as it will slow down your rotation. You can great ball strikers like steve stricker and kenny perry do it. Butch also wanted tiger’s rt foot on the ground back in the day. I prefer keeping it down until you learn control at least then you can start to let it come up once you have a good feel for what’s really happening in your swing
@@RotaryswingThank you so much for your VDO and reply .. for your instruction, I tried it already, and it worked quite well... around 4-5 years ago. Someone mentioned that I was using too much upper body and too little hip. So I tried using more of my hip and found it difficult to hit the shallow path. However, I tried your way. In the back swing, I turn my entire body and begin the downswing by letting my hand descend. I can hit the ball on a more shallow route since I have a room for my arm and am not blocked by the hip.
a couple of comments 1) "effortless" power is fiction/fantasy. An effortless swing would result in a ball that would not travel beyond your shadow. 2) power is generated as the result of force(s) put into the ground. Without the ground "pushing back" you could not swing the club - so any discussion about power must include an understanding of ground reactive forces.
I understand Jack's statement,but the key is "as long as you're on the left side",you need to make that clear,the ability to hit against the left leg only happens if it's a "recoil" from the initial move left and pull down. Also,if you look at Rory's finish,he has incredible flexibility in his hip and ankle joints to have his hips finish completely open and his left foot is maybe 10% open 🤔
The reason you flip is because your lower body is outracing your arms. You can only rotate your hips so far and still have a path to the ball. Try it in slow motion. Max out your hip rotation and try to get to the ball. The only move left is to flip your hands thru.
The golf wing is a complex chain action with multiplication of levers (angular velocity) creating clubhead speed. Hands simply hold on to the lever(golf club). Exactly as the tip of a bull whip breaks the sound barrier the clubhead speed is result of proximal leading distal in properly timed sequence. That sequence and proper impact is determined by control of our dominant hand. For most right hand swinging golfers, keeping the right palm facing the sky from top of BS through impact creates the proper impact. For left hand dominant golfers who swing from the right side, keep the left palm facing down from top of BS through impact. In cracking the whip, the slowing of the hands results in the highest speed of the tip of the whip Conservation of kinetic energy. ruclips.net/video/X5ubrvlIN8Q/видео.html
Doesn't this fly in the face of what you've said for years? So now the hands dictate what the body does? You've always taught us to turn our guts and hit the ball with our legs.
@@HaterzMD this is how i got close to matching tiger’s 2000 swing. This is what i had to feel and because i believe its much simpler and even easier on the body to feel this in the swing. The core is still turning. The legs are still driving off the ground. Just the feel in how you get there is a modified throw the ball drill that ive used for two decades ago
No not the chest and shoulders ever. The arms will get stuck behind the body. If you’re hitting fat you’re not shifting enough laterally or driving the club down with the trail hand in most cases. If you shift back to the left and keep your head back the hands will actually start working back up just before impact and shallow the angle of attack
Reminds me of Julius Boros. Turn easy with your shoulders, Hit Hard. One of Greatest hitters in USPGA. ruclips.net/user/shortscAcmctIFCo8?si=8alEP6Bx-_tEtTqP
Talking about the hips moving is so misleading. Hips can't move. The legs do the job. When you say rorys hips barely move its wrong. Cause the legs still work constantly with immense pressure or counter pressure or upwards. You can load the legs so much and then release that through the core into hand speed but still looking very slow
I don't completely agree. When a man simulates an LPGA players swing with fast hip movement, combined with synchronized hand speed, can result in impressive distance.
men create more ball speed(COR) than most women, due to mass of the arms. Arm Mass creates Momentum p=mv When arms drop from top of BS to impact, mass of the mens arms are 2 or 3 times greater than a smaller golfer(women), then the momentum p will be 2 to 3 times less, even when velocity is the same. eg compare momentum of a Mack truck cab to a vw bug. going at same velocity. Hand speed? No it is DS momentum created by arm mass. Wonder why Jon Rohm, John Daly create COR greater than Lidia Ko? Its arm mass not hand speed.
I will! Your wrong.. I challenge you to a discussion? I have given over 50K hours of lessons and have won way more tourneys than you have and have played on the PGA tour which you haven't@@Rotaryswing
You're foolish...Chuck says repeatedly there are several ways to swing a club and release it, this is his. You may or may not have yours but to be honest if you're here like most of us you don't.
Hip Speed vs. Hand Speed video: rotaryswing.com/c4/198-hip-speed-vs-hand-speed-in-golf-swing
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My golf coach has been teaching me this forever and it finally clicked. I’ve always been spinning out thinking I need to “open the hips” and “hold the lag”. This is the way. Great video.
You need a new golf coach!
Your recent videos have completely transformed my ball striking, ive been trying to get my hips through for years and now I just throw my hands from the top and it’s like magic!! 😂
Great to hear!
Excellent tip so far. Thanks a lot.
What a terrific video. Makes so much sense and excellently presented with great content.
Glad you think so!
I have searched through so many videos and reddit forms to try to find the cure to my out to in club path.... finally after watching this video I am making progress. This has truly shortcut my progress to becoming better. Thank you.
I am 72 and been playing over 60 years. Used to be really good (1 handicap) but my wife got sick and I was her caretaker day and night for 3 years until she passed away. You can understand after 3 years my game was pretty much gone. I watched this video, went it the golf course and played insanely well just doing the two things you taught. Swing hasn't felt that good in years. But I have a question: I know I really need another 20 yards with the drive and 10-15 yards per irons to compete with my shark buddies. Can that be accomplished by firing the right arm harder from the top or do I just need to focus on something else. I will watch your other vids and see what I can pick up also. Thanks so MUCH!
Hi Milton, I'm very sorry to hear about your wife....
You can fire the arm as fast as your body is clearing. If your body doesn't clear, you're just going to stick the club in the dirt. I just published a set of videos on this very topic showing me teaching a student who was working on the very same thing, check it out here: rotaryswing.com/lp/learn-the-timing-of-the-release/
@@Rotaryswing Bless you my friend, I will go to work tomorrow. Thank you for helping so many miserable golfers. I live in Arkansas, which I know is a long way from you, but if you ever make down my way I'll buy you a beer and a steak.
@@miltonpurdy1784 I may be heading out east actually, so I might just take you up on that! I grew up in NE Oklahoma only 45 mins from Arkansas!
Really great points. Very clear, and helpfull.
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At the 5:06 and 5:15 marks, you can see Jack throw his clubhead from the top. Looks like a straight cast move. Incredible. Spot on Chuck!
This is a great golf lesson
Very Nelly Korda like swing. Love it.
I've played golf off and on my hole life.I remember several years ago I got real long for a few years.I don't remember exactly wat I was doing.I only remember I felt like I was swinging in slow motion .I felt like my hands wer almost dead just along for the ride..I was speeding up my arms.Im only 5.9 tall.I do remember I paid close attention to my rt arm as to let it hang at address and trying to keep it close to my side coming through the ball.It was crazy how long I could hit it on a good day.I don't play golf anymore.I want to start playing again.
Let me know if I can help!
@@Rotaryswing thanks.
You explained this as well as any I’ve seen on U-Tube. Well done.
Yet another great video and hits home for me especially about not needing all the hip rotation as my body just can't do it anyway not being that limber most of my life much less at 65 now. Also, using Lydia Ko is who I've looked at to model tempo and not needing to hit the ball far to try and enjoy golf. She's not number 1 anymore but that swing is enjoyable to watch. Yep, try and square the club before getting the club too close to the ball really makes sense and hopefully attainable for me. Thank you. Pga Tour Champions is for you no doubt.
😮😮😮😮😮This absolutely 💯 made sense and after a few driving range visits I've been able to comfortably step back to "Blue Tees!!!" I'm still a 12 Handicap @57 years old and truth is the mental aspect of allowing my mind to catch up to my abilities was extremely hard to do!!!
If you enjoyed this video, you're going to love my latest one: ruclips.net/video/2ImwLmojFiM/видео.html&lc
Golf is a journey and you never stop learning. This is what I love about the game. All the unique swings with similar elements to get the ball going properly is simply fascinating. From the short guy to the long lanky guy, finding your swing and developing it with good elements is the challenge.
Thanks, this is what i have been looking for. Maybe my back will stop hurting now. I feel like at some point, it became a regular thing to over rotate. I always feel like im fighting something but can't quite put my hands on it. Golf used to be easy for me, lately its felt like nothing but struggle.
A lot of times golfers struggle because they unwittingly are mixing between lead side and trail side dominant patterns. That's why I cover them both on the site
Been watching you for 10 years now Chuck. Awesome stuff. Thank you for all the free secrets.
You’re welcome! Hope it helps!
I came from baseball and was hard pull hitter and took me a while to quiet my hips..
Now I’m playing some of my best golf doing exactly what you’re saying…
I also started narrowing stance and videos tell u wider for longer drives
If you ever watch Chris Kirk hit a driver, you immediately realize a wide stance is not the way to hit it long
Great video once again mate, thanks so much for the upload. What I like to try some time is, take the course card of which course I'm planning to play and almost play like a virtual course, start of with driver, check the mevo for the distance and select a new club and target, think that will also help alot...most important thing will then be not to rush it. Look forward to the next video mate
You are spot on! What happens when you "spin" your hips is that you tend to fall behind with the upper torso. That is, you fall into a backward lateral lean at the hips which guarantees a fat shot. Your shoulders, arms and hands are the primary levers that propel the ball. During the back-swing, I keep my belly button pointed at the ball. It (belly button) does eventually move toward the target but the "turn" is a function of my turning shoulders and swinging arms. It's a swing that looks great, produces a boring shot and finishes in balance. For the average golfer, a highly segmented swing is impossible to sync.
I've been hitting a lot of fat shots lately and distance is way down, so this sounds like a good technique for me to try.
Another GREAT video! Kenny Perry is a sort of forgotten excellent player too - especially from the mid 2000's -2010. I believe he even got up to #2 or #3 in the world in 2009. A shame he couldn't close out the 2009 Masters, he deserved that win.
Thanks! Yes, he was fantastic and an awesome drive of the ball!
Perry had one of the best over 45 years old career in golf history. He had that masters won with 2 shot lead with 2 to play.
@@IanPunter exactly right! Yeah I believe he was 48 years old when he would have won that Masters. He had it too! Bogey-Bogey finish did him in. It's sad that fate had a lowlife like Angel Cabrera winning in the end
I am so looking for the no sore back s***!! I have been trying a stack and tilt situation, having a little degree of difficulty and pulling the ball a lot. I've had back surgeries I've had shoulder surgeries I'm 60 and I need less movement and more target
really good advice backswing can be slow but downswing needs to be fast and with a slight lag like I imagine I am swinging a sack of potatoes. This has been something I learned late in life and as you say the body just does its thing and you don't have to think so much about all the moving parts nature takes over
Excellent.
May I ask where this is filmed? The scenery is absolutely beautiful 🏔❄️
I think it also depends when the hips are moving fast. For example Hogan’s hip movement was very fast, but only from about P6 (club shaft parallel to ground on downswing) to past impact.
Ive been playing since July ‘23 and I’ve only recently felt what effortless pure contact feels like. I would love to see a video with these principles applied to the driver swing and setup. Thanks Chuck!
It’s become clear to me over the last two months that this is the real formula for playing good, consistent golf. Using this method, it’s the first time in my life that my swing doesn’t “change” every single time I play or practice. I thought “what swing will I have today” was just part of golf. That’s all gone and I seem to have the same ball flight and feels every day.
You got it! Doesn’t have to be a lifelong fight to the death. Just need the right feel and the golf swing opens right up!
Man this is amazing! All my numbers are above the PGA average now! I just keep my heels on the ground back and through. Best video ever! Thanks!
Glad it helped!
i aim 20 yards right with my irons, strong left grip feel like im turning my back to the target on backswing and crush my irons pretty consistently on target, easy 150 9 irons 170 7 irons, 100 yard sand wedges, but never know where my driver swing is going to be any day, sometimes 280 straight bombs, some days 220 weak pushes and slices, frustrating, guess ill give your system a try, can i overcome my gorilla swing with your system?
oh boy. where to begin... i'm 56, big lanky guy. took up the game in earnest a year ago. practice 5 days per week, lots of lessons. the focus on massive hip windup and snap untwisting is very challenging for me. my back doesn't like it, but i do it because that's what i've been told is the key to speed. it makes me wonder how long i'll be able to play this game.
You wont be able to play very long without back problems swinging like that i can assure you. This will save you body and your sanity rotaryswing.com/c4/112563-throw-the-clubhead-drill
Great video. Makes so much sense… I’m in
So this looks like a new direction? I've been a follower since your first DVD, the "single plan swing". Then to your name change to the "rotaryswing". So now this looks/sounds like the "no turn/cast swing" or maybe what Tom Tomasello talked about in the video he put together for Lee Deitrick. Which was posted by Lynn Blake. Am I correct... I'm definitely confused. Thanks! I've always enjoyed your video's
Watch the series on the site and the videos on RUclips that explain everything in full detail
I started doing the feel of keeping the brakes on my hips, I hit the ball alot straighter and farther. When I finished my post is fully on my lead leg, golf ⛳ is truly a opposite sport. I always compare it to backing up a trailer.
Great analogy!
So the hands and arms move first in the downswing and not the lower body?
The body always moves first but can in response to the intention of the hands
@@Rotaryswingyour body and hips can’t help but moved . Spot on
Active arms and hands and a quiet lower body. Watch Ernie Els and Justin Rose. Rod Pampliing is the optimum example of this.
What I find from the years that I played golf. As long as you find a path, you can use your lower body or your hands or your arms anything as long as the path is right if the past is wrong, you’ll flip your hands you’ll sway you’ll do everything opposite up the proper swing, but when the path is right, everything falls in place, so it doesn’t matter if you use your hips or your hands, a lot of people don’t know how to clear the hips and that’s the biggest problem. They think you have to swing your arms straight but actually you swing your arms back through to the left and a lot of people fight that they end up flipping their hands instead of going naturally around their body, at least I look at it.
Thank you for posting this video. One thing still reamins undoubtful that best players(MEN) do open their hips,at impact may be around 30-35 degrees
Never said they didnt
@@Rotaryswing My point is its about how one feels the "Firing" varies from person to person.
Since feel and real often isn't the same - how can we be sure that we have the corect feel?
Where did the ball go?
In other words: The proof is in the pudding...@@caryanthony
The proof is in the pudding@@caryanthony
Double check your feel with what you see on camera and in the mirror
How do I swing fast from the top and yet you say 80% and effortless? Not trying to be difficult but would like the answer so I can work on it.
Also so glad I tried this today. Flushed it like you won't believe. I'm also glad I learned a rotational swing and let arms follow. It actually gave me the proper feel with your method and the awareness was unbelievable. I was turning, rotating way too much. I hit my 7 iron stock 180yds. I actually for some reason picked up an extra 5 yards. I am a scratch golfer but today carded a 67 with your method, my first time trying it!!My best round in 2 years. 😊😊😊
Awesome round! To answer your question about how to put it together that is covered in the GOAT Code videos on the site here rotaryswing.com/c4/112542-widen-the-lead-wrist
My problem is that I cup the left wrist at the top but as opposed to opening the club face as you describe this shuts my club face down
What start’s your downswing?
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Padraig Harrington says that for the weekend warriors 95% of speed comes from the arms and wrists. Only the true pros gain from firing hips. Malaska says the body follows the hands
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Chuck: I saw your video with the student who was incorrectly pulling the handle at the ball. I don't PULL the handle at the ball, I POINT it at the ball and then at the target on the way down and it stops my flipping. There are many videos on this "pointing the handle" rather than focusing on the clubhead. What's your view on this swing key? Thanks.
Not a bad feel if it works for you. I prefer to focus on the club head since that’s what im hitting the ball with. If you’re flipping there are some things happening that need to be corrected and this maybe just a band aid fix. But if it continues to work for you stick with it
Pulling the handle is a death move in golf. Great video chuck!
Sounds like what Mike Malaska (sp?) says. Basically the hips just getting out of the way of the hands. Not thinking about firing them.
Yep. Straight line forces.
The hands are everything. Loved the video
Aren’t convinced? Pull up a video of Dennis Walters…man is in a wheelchair and was still able to rip it out there 240 yards plus over and over and over…saw him do this years ago live…unreal…on hand speed, many ams are mistaken in thinking your hands continue to accelerate through the ball…your max speed is usually about 30cm from impact, at which point your hands need to slow and transfer that energy to the head of the club so it can swing through the ball at max speed…it’s pretty normal for max hand speed to be about 20mph about 30cm from the ball and then be moving at about 8mph at impact…
100%
How do you build hand speed but keep the “V” body connection. I don’t feel totally free with the left arm glued to my chest. Thanks 🙏
Also, does your hands cause the weight shift or do you have to shift before you swing?
Meanwhile... Paul Wilson, with his "body swing" method, hits 340yds+ with an incredibly slow swing.
Paul like the pros know where to pour on the speed. First thing, hit the sweet spot on driver.
Basically this video is a 19 min promotion video for Rotary Swing
Chuck, what happened to squat to square and post up? You used to be a BIG proponent of lower body driving the swing….right?
And why do you think any of that changed????
So just to confirm...hips and chest does not need to be wide open at impact like George Gankas teaches?
You can do that if you dont care about your back. There is a crazy amount of rotation swinging that way. It works too but way way too much stress on my body to swing that way. Twist your spine or just use the hands and remove all stress off the body. That’s the decision to make
Couldn't agree more. I've tried the Gankas method and not good for this guy who had two back surgeries. @@Rotaryswing
Tiger before he won the tiger slam said he wants to feel like the hands win the race to impact and exit impact before the hips. Dont worry about the hips. Once the hands work correctly then you can add body forces just like every sport we’ve ever gotten good at
Ok now I am really confused about what to practice to improve my swing. I would consider the instructors in the attached link to be reputable? ruclips.net/video/ifQ2l1LOIBg/видео.htmlsi=Vfmawosb__Z0mxcx
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@@Rotaryswing fantastic view
And a great lesson
It’s all connected. Put a tour pro in zero G and they will only be able to hit the ball 70 yards no matter how hard they try to move their arms and hands.
Just took this baby to the range and holy shit does it work! My swing feels like ernie’s and I’m SMASHING the ball! Thanks!
You’re welcome!
So this is the straight back and straight through swing , and not the rotary swing as advertised ?
You need to watch the other videos
Please reconcile your advice with Jack’s devotion to footwork and the amount that he practiced it. I love your advice but now i don’t know what to do with my feet to keep Jack happy. Would Jack like Kenny Perry’s flat heels?
Think about someone whipping a rope or an elite pitcher and that’s what your going for … lower body is quiet bc energy is built up and delivered to wrist.. how can I move my body to get my wrist moving fastest in front of me mindset over how fast can I move my hips … if hips hit max speed … the transfer of energy will be below max speed once it gets to wrist
I use the Jim Veneto method, works fantastic for me! Do pro's swing like that? No, but Im not a pro and never will be.The method eliminates all the movement that contributes to bad ball contact! Shifting, rotating etc.
LOL stop telling people the secret !
Honestly, this is golden. people need to understand that once you speed up on the golf swing, you cannot control(limited) it anymore. so you need to setup your self in a good spot before the downswing. Anything in between is a FEEL which is different from people to people.
No one ever talks about the action of the forearms. It's always the lower body, or the hips, or the hands... Watch that video of Kenny Perry again. His trail forearm is way under the lead arm until.. just before impact. At that point there is massive rotation of the forearms, and the club head speed increases to its max. Steve Stricker does the same thing. So, I don't know how they do it and hit the ball straight, but there is a huge degree of timing involved. It isn't a straight back and straight through swing.
The opposite is true of course. If there was a huge degree of timing they wouldn’t be pros for very long! What you have observed of the forearms is exactly what you want to do, and it is very easy to square the face this way with way less timing
It’s all about tempo, the hips move but you don’t throw them. When you come to a left side onto the front foot your hips automatically move forward. Bobby Jones has a great video showing the this works.
If you try to separate this move then you’re asking for trouble.
Rory has talked about moving his right pocket through the ball.
Patrick Reed is a good current example.
I believe Lydia Ko is 5’ 6” not 5’.
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Do you imply that should keep right foot on the ground and avoid lifting it too quickly? I noticed that the majority of the examples you present are just like the hips are moving but not too over as most of the GURUs on TV try to teach people.
It does create a sense of more stability and control keeping it on the ground but isnt a hard and fast rule as it will slow down your rotation. You can great ball strikers like steve stricker and kenny perry do it. Butch also wanted tiger’s rt foot on the ground back in the day. I prefer keeping it down until you learn control at least then you can start to let it come up once you have a good feel for what’s really happening in your swing
@@RotaryswingThank you so much for your VDO and reply .. for your instruction, I tried it already, and it worked quite well... around 4-5 years ago. Someone mentioned that I was using too much upper body and too little hip. So I tried using more of my hip and found it difficult to hit the shallow path. However, I tried your way. In the back swing, I turn my entire body and begin the downswing by letting my hand descend. I can hit the ball on a more shallow route since I have a room for my arm and am not blocked by the hip.
a couple of comments 1) "effortless" power is fiction/fantasy. An effortless swing would result in a ball that would not travel beyond your shadow. 2) power is generated as the result of force(s) put into the ground. Without the ground "pushing back" you could not swing the club - so any discussion about power must include an understanding of ground reactive forces.
It’s the feeling. Obviously no one thinks its zero effort.
Look at scene 10:27 = Tiger’s hips fire first, then the rest.
Tiger’s hips are turned 55 degrees at impact, yours only 45 degrees.
Lydia is 5'5
I understand Jack's statement,but the key is "as long as you're on the left side",you need to make that clear,the ability to hit against the left leg only happens if it's a "recoil" from the initial move left and pull down.
Also,if you look at Rory's finish,he has incredible flexibility in his hip and ankle joints to have his hips finish completely open and his left foot is maybe 10% open 🤔
Every other RUclipsr says the opposite. I feel like I’m a hand player and my biggest problem is flipping. This looks like it encourages flipping
The reason you flip is because your lower body is outracing your arms. You can only rotate your hips so far and still have a path to the ball. Try it in slow motion. Max out your hip rotation and try to get to the ball. The only move left is to flip your hands thru.
It doesn’t unless you dont understand how to use your hands. All pros use their hands and dont flip.
He isn’t the only one. Marcus is also excellent.
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He isn’t the only one Marcus Edblad is also excellent.
Tommy Fleetwood... is that you!? 👀
Hahaha i get that a lot nowadays!
Minimal hip rotation is proved by Natural Golf & Moe Norman.
The only two things you need to do is… grip it and rip it 👊😎
The golf wing is a complex chain action with multiplication of levers (angular velocity)
creating clubhead speed.
Hands simply hold on to the lever(golf club).
Exactly as the tip of a bull whip breaks the sound barrier the clubhead speed is result of proximal leading distal in properly timed sequence.
That sequence and proper impact is determined by control of our dominant hand. For most right hand swinging golfers, keeping the right palm facing the sky from top of BS through impact creates the proper impact. For left hand dominant golfers who swing from the right side, keep the left palm facing down from top of BS through impact.
In cracking the whip, the slowing of the hands results in the highest speed of the tip of the whip
Conservation of kinetic energy.
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Doesn't this fly in the face of what you've said for years? So now the hands dictate what the body does? You've always taught us to turn our guts and hit the ball with our legs.
No i did the throw ball drills back in 2007 and as i said in this video i referenced the hip speed vs hand speed video which is also from 2007
@@Rotaryswing I've been a long time subscriber, and don't get me wrong, always great stuff. Perhaps I'm just not quite understanding.
@@HaterzMD this is how i got close to matching tiger’s 2000 swing. This is what i had to feel and because i believe its much simpler and even easier on the body to feel this in the swing. The core is still turning. The legs are still driving off the ground. Just the feel in how you get there is a modified throw the ball drill that ive used for two decades ago
Would you say that the chest and shoulders are still pretty dominant on leading the arms so you don't chunk it behind the ball?
No not the chest and shoulders ever. The arms will get stuck behind the body. If you’re hitting fat you’re not shifting enough laterally or driving the club down with the trail hand in most cases. If you shift back to the left and keep your head back the hands will actually start working back up just before impact and shallow the angle of attack
Don't you need less handspeed and more orange balls up there.
Difference between Tiger and us amateurs = Tiger is an athlete. We're not.
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You make no mention of it in recent videos like you did in previous years. That’s my impression
I cant cover everything in a single video
Swing the clubhead...? Ernest Jones, et al...
The thing people have to understand is that it’s a swing and when you try to separate the parts it’s no longer a fluid motion.
Reminds me of Julius Boros. Turn easy with your shoulders, Hit Hard. One of Greatest hitters in USPGA.
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So your channel should now be called the straight back and through swing not the rotary swing. You have definitely changed your philosophy
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This is what Mike Malaska has taught for years.
Talking about the hips moving is so misleading.
Hips can't move. The legs do the job.
When you say rorys hips barely move its wrong. Cause the legs still work constantly with immense pressure or counter pressure or upwards.
You can load the legs so much and then release that through the core into hand speed but still looking very slow
I don't completely agree. When a man simulates an LPGA players swing with fast hip movement, combined with synchronized hand speed, can result in impressive distance.
men create more ball speed(COR) than most women, due to mass of the arms.
Arm Mass creates Momentum p=mv
When arms drop from top of BS to impact, mass of the mens arms are 2 or 3 times greater than a smaller golfer(women), then the momentum p
will be 2 to 3 times less, even when velocity is the same.
eg compare momentum of a Mack truck cab to a vw bug. going at same velocity.
Hand speed? No it is DS momentum created by arm mass.
Wonder why Jon Rohm, John Daly create COR greater than Lidia Ko? Its arm mass not hand speed.
a lot of common sense info. it's like golf really is a 'horse of a different color'.
Is it me, or is this really confusing for something 'easy'?
Its you
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Give these guys a break if you don't like it get off the phone they are running a business
No ! This is not what you do . Listening to this guy will hurt your game . End of story.
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I will! Your wrong.. I challenge you to a discussion? I have given over 50K hours of lessons and have won way more tourneys than you have and have played on the PGA tour which you haven't@@Rotaryswing
You're foolish...Chuck says repeatedly there are several ways to swing a club and release it, this is his. You may or may not have yours but to be honest if you're here like most of us you don't.
For better golf, it's not the strokes made, it's the strokes written on the score card!
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