B58 Wastegate Calibration DIY (Fix Wastegate Stop Position Outside Tolerance)
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- How to Calibrate the EWG on your B58
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I feel at peace knowing you exist and I drive a B58 🤝 much appreciate the content man.
If u have issues with measuring, just set the cup a 1/4 in from the back of the threeat. Threated part is 1 1/4 and u need the latch to be at 1 inches from the thread on the wastgate thread not the end
5:15 is where most people are going to need the tip with the open or closed position by adjusting the length of the position. Thanks.
absolute legend, makes full sense
Having this issue and you just helped so much thank you!
I needed to hear this!! Thank you! My n55 is throwing 2 codes on most warm starts with the dreaded Drivetrain Malfunction
Having the same issue with mine
Hey boss I just got this as well did you fix it the same way he did ? I have a 14’ n55 and same thing unless I drive a bit and then turn off and on my car then it’ll work ?
@@user-xd6jq3ew4iyou fixed it ?
@@dannyj6584did u ever get it fixed
@@dannyj6584Hey, I’m having the same issue as you described, have you managed to to fix the issue? I’ve been told turbo replacement due to wastegate issue
you sir, have great BMW content Thank you
Best video of this period! This also applies to N55 EWG. QUESTION! What if there's also a "Electrical Wastegate, Position Sensor: Electrical, Short to Ground" code? How would you tackle this? Replace the EWG and transfer the linkage?
Double check the wiring isn't damaged first
@@kern417 Thank you for that advice man. I noticed that the codes set off when the car is extremely hot, like on a 3 hour road trip in summer weather.
what was the solution?
@@b58naki Bad wastegate actuator. Replaced it with a new one and it was immediately apparent the old one was bad.
Hey Kern,
Appreciate your deep analysis videos, they put me at peace whenever I have b58 related questions.
I was recently protuned on e50 FBO vargs gc. (gen 1 b58) Tuner had issues because my car kept limping out at 5k - 5,500k rpm when on dyno. Tuner believes my waste gate is bad, car only has 15k miles and had a reputable shop install my parts.. At a stand still here, don't feel like the shop/tuner are interested in figuring this out for me.
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Did you ever figure out what the issue was? My GC is doing the same thing around 5500, weird WGDC and boost drop. Tuner insists it is something mechanical and I'm stumped.
Message me a log and i can take a look
Same
It’s happening to me on ultra flow
I have a 2016 BMW X3 and I have the Wastegate solenoid stop not learned code. What would the fix for this be?
Hello from New Zealand.
Good ole engine bay staring
How much do your IATs drop after installing the neck pillow? I’m considering doing it for my car
No reduction in IATs but it's handy for laying my head down between shifts
Good explanation thanks buddy
A good "guage is a quarter. 26mm is the spec suggested, a quarter is 24.26 mm. So you it should be about 1.75 mm wider than a quarter (1 or 2 threads).
A quarter is 24.5 mm
Thank you....I can understand that a little easier....so does it have to be exact 26mm....or just extremely close to 26mm
My 540i 2018 makes some strange noises on cold start, like chain noise. Or can be westgate? 46tkm . The noise came from that place
So if the Wastegate arm wasn’t measured correctly, would it be thrown the code? I have DAW UF making 27.5 psi at 100% wgdc the whole pull. Tuner suggested boost leak or
Calibrated the wastegate. Already did that and the wastegate is good and no boost leak
Thanks man! Worked like a charm. How will this be impacted when I install my charge pipe with blow out valve next week?
Shouldn't matter
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Question, I just changed my turbo. I didn’t calibrate the electronic WG and noticed my logs had 80% & 90% WGDC. Is this related. I’m checking for boost leaks as well.
Very good video. I have exactly problem with my wastegate. I get the same error 29A400 It says the wategate is out of position too much + position deviation. I have a BMW F11 525D Xdrive 2012, do I have an electronic wastegate. After replacing the turbo by the workshop my car has no boost and I get drivetrain error when I accerrate. Can you please give me some advice?
If I am throwing two codes, electric wastegate; stop learning: cold start: Malfunction & also electric wastegate; stop learning: stop learning (wastegate closed); outside tolerance, I measured and adjusted at 26mm, 27mm, 28mm, 29mm, 30mm & 31mm. And I am still throwing the same codes....Any ideas?
Same issue, recalibrated twice and issue came back. I’m about to replace the wastegate actuator and hope that works
@@aldosayshi782did it work bro
@@aldosayshi782 Hey Bro, did this fix your issue? experiencing something similar.
@@beaubatchelorno, sadly it was the waste gate arm that cracked the weld… so it was moving out of position. If you’re on the stock turbo it’s probably not what I had.
You happen to know the total throw the actuator can do?
Looking to do some custom stuff on my aftermarket turbo car and I found the common civic si electric wastegate doesn’t have enough throw so exploring options.
Hi Kern hope you well. Not sure if you’ll see this question on an old post.
Have you come across any scenarios where the wastegate calibrates fine when cold, but once the engine bay gets hot it gives a drivetrain error relating to the wastegate?
Update, for anyone looking to calibrate their wastegate and can’t find the distance required on Ista. You can use the raw position of the wastegate in the logging channels of mhd or bootmod, it shows the distance at idle. You want the value in mm at 0mm. Hope this helps someone @kern417
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Is it work on n55 ewg? Its also 26mm for perfect position? I have the same error codes 😢
As I understand the waste gate actuator must be adjusted within the range the electronic wastegate is set up. The electronic will take a check if the rode is adjust within, if not the turbocharger will not get any boost. My wastegate actuator is just a plastic rode with no nuts or any gangs to adjust. The plastic rode is locked by a c-clips. So if I remove the c-clips and turn the rode -4 times and run my diagnostic tool. If it is within range there will be no error. Right?
Some people calibrate it like this by guessing and trying.
It says 123701 Electric Wastegate, Position Sensor, Signal: Short Circuit to B+
either the wiring is not connected/damaged or the wastegate itself is bad
Will the calibration ever get thrown off over time without modifying, or when you get to higher mileage on the motor?
No
Thanks a lot for all the videos you make. I've been watching through pretty much all of those and it gives you a really good insight. I've already seen a comment addressing the waste gate rattle of the B58. There are a bunch of threads about this in german forums but you rarely find any english ones. ruclips.net/video/-7ZW7eW5Vgw/видео.html. This video captures that specific waste gate rattle pretty well (or it might rather be the actuator that rattles). You can first hear it really well at around 1:20. It appears when you are on low-mid throttle cruising through a city most often and it's about as loud as that sweet b58 sound which makes it smth really bothering. If you knew any fix for this my life would be whole
@kern417 check the vid this guy mentions and the time stamp.
123421 | Electrical Wastegate Valve , Adaptation: Start Position Open Not Detected
150102 | Ignition, Cylinder 1: Combustion Period Too Short
150202 | Ignition, Cylinder 2: Combustion Period Too Short
123432 | Electrical Wastegate Valve , Adaptation: Limit Position Shut, Implausible
120408 | Charging Pressure Control: Switch-Off As Consequence
Any ideas on this then car was running fine pulled up turned engine off for abit 20mins then had “drive train fault” come up and this is all the codes
Combustion period too short is typically related to coilpacks. Wastegate codes need to look at the wastegate to see if it's moving or if something is loose.
Good content again mate, question though, if u turn your cold start off u are effectively just closing the waste gate from engine start up. Is this a bad thing?
It doesn't make a difference whether you have cold start on or off
Okay thanks 👍🏻
Can you explain the pillow plz i understood the ac charge and the other ones but what is this
I need somewhere to lay down between shifts
I watch the video n got it on the fist try
Awesome man. Glad it worked
Hey kern my vband clamp was improperly oriented and it was keep the wastegate actuator from operating properly. The clamp has since been fixed. How do i confirm its now ppening and closing properly?
Follow the instructions in the video
@kern417 will do thanks. I just dont think it looks outside of tolerance. I was hoping for a way I just see if it's in the codes. Or visually watch it open. I was just hoping it wasn't damaged
you can. you may have to remove the intake depending on the setup. but it's all shown in the video.
So if the car doesn’t throw any fault codes after swapping the wastegate over to the new turbo I’m good?
Yes
Set mine to 28mm and drivetrain malfunction has gone but engine light on cluster now with no boost when driving
Now set at 30 and all lights off but no real boost when driving
Then scan for codes
@@kern417 123432 and 120408
arm is too long. shorten it.
All codes now gone used diagnostics to set wastegate. But still no power, found some aluminium dust in front of turbo but there is no play in turbo. It was newly fitted only done 600miles
Ista has been giving me so many problems, I’m not trying to have to pay for another version and hope the install is easier, I played around and got it to open but can’t find the closed, sorry if this sounds dumb but I’m still not fully grasping it after the video, I have the doc race kit too, should I thread the arm in or would it adjust the nuts holding the wastegate flap? It closed like 3/4 way but fully opens
Just measure it
i have the n55, with ewg. i would assume this is same to calibrate? ur actuator looks same as mine.
Not sure
Did u ever get this fixed
does this need doing when fitting a vargas gc core?
You won't know until you install it. Typically if you don't adjust the length of the arm then it will work fine when you swap it to the new turbo but a few people have still had to adjust it
Hey man, hoping you can help me out even tho this vid is 2 years old already.
My gen 1 m240i xdrive has an audible rattlez Sometimes on deceleration, other times by just blipping the throttle and other times when in a high gear low rpm cruising. The noise is almost undetectable in sport and sport+ modes.
I’ve checked and it doesn’t sound like it’s coming from the exhaust flap, and I recently changed the spring in the flap actuator.
I’m almost positive it’s the waste gate actuator. After doing a bm3 tune and catted downpipe the noise is much more noticeable. It sounds A LOT like the noise in this vid: ruclips.net/video/-7ZW7eW5Vgw/видео.htmlsi=Rp2IPKMZlUiOnqdj
I’m not seeing any problems with boost, it’s just the noise that’s annoying.
This RUclipsr says a DME update from BMW fixed his problem. Thing is that I’m tuned. 2 questions for ya
1: would the dme update negate the bm3 tune?
2: if the dme update works and I get no wastegate rattle noise, would reflashing the car with bm3 just undo the fix?
Sorry for the long post but anything you can share is much appreciated.
i'm not sure about that issue. but if you get a dme update then it will flash the tune back to stock and lock the dme so you will need a bench unlock to reflash your map. the map only changes certain things, so if there is an update then it shouldn't affect other areas other than those to make more power safely. i can't really say if it'll have an effect on your issue.
Is there any way to reduce wastegate rattle that the B58's are known for?
B58 are not known for wastegate rattle
@@kern417 Not in the same sense as the N54, no, but they frequently rattle from the wastegate actuator arm at the pivot point. It's most noticeable at low RPM and in closed environments that echo.
This is not a common issue.
@@kern417 Common enough that I've had it on 3xB58's ;)
@@Bestwick1983 sounds like you either found the 3 worst B58s on earth or you're not identifying the actual issue. Find any sizeable discussion about it being a common issue and get back to me.
I got a 6 port Supra and I’m over boosting I’m on a map that’s for 20psi on pure 800 and I hitting up to 22.6 what would I have to do?
Have your tuner adjust boost control in the tune
@@kern417 I have jb4 and he tells me it’s my wgdc and that I need to calbraite my wastage
@@alexkd7b58 you cannot manually adjust the wg to change wgdc
@@kern417 then what can I do to help my wgdc
@@alexkd7b58 see my first comment
I have a gen 1 b58 and running on a E50 blend base map for f80 Paul. I looked at the logs and my WGDC was at 99%, I also checked my previous 93 octane tune datalog and it read 99% as well. With my current setup it’s pretty unusual for it to be that high, my DA was also around -700ft. Do you think this could be a small boost leak or something entirely different?Just wanted to hear your input, thanks a lot
Yes most likely a boost leak or vacuum leak
@@kern417 Ok, thanks a lot