I just started watching videos on air rifles. I’m 61 now and back when I had an old Benjamin break barrel springer .177, there was no such thing as the internet or videos of any kind. Everything was word of mouth as far as information went. And air gunning wasn’t all that popular except with kids back then. I really enjoy your videos and just subscribed. I’ve had a few pistols, revolvers and rifles through the years and wasn’t all that interested in air guns since I was a kid. But in my 50’s, a friend of mine got a nice .22 pellet rifle with a decent scope and we shot it in his backyard. I was hooked! Didn’t know what I was missing! Going to the range with firearms is kind of a pain and pretty expensive, so I rarely go anymore. But with an air rifle you can shoot it at home for really cheap. So I just ordered a Gamo 10x Fusion 3i and it was supposed to be delivered today but I guess I’ll have to wait til Monday. Bummer. What I like about your videos is that you’re a woman. I’ve found through the years that women are better students than men and more honest. My girlfriend had never shot a gun in her life but wanted to learn. So I ran her through the safety rules and range etiquette while she practiced dry-firing drills with my Beretta 92F in our living room. She got it down quickly. Muzzle always down range and trigger discipline. Her first time at the range, she did very well. After the shock of her first shots wore off, she really focused and relaxed. Very impressive groups at 10 yards for her first time. She was a natural. Her second time at the range, she was determined to beat my score. The first round, I let her win and she was pissed! “You’re not even trying!” She yelled. Okay, so I tried harder and I’ll be damned if she wasn’t right there with me. Because now she’s really focused on beating me and she actually kinda did. More of her shots were in the 10 ring than mine but I was shooting faster. Still, she was just naturally patient and accurate. So, you kinda remind me of her in that you’re really focused and a damn good shot. Lots of women are better than men when it comes to marksmanship with very little training or practice. You’re a pro in air guns and I’m just now getting back into it. I really appreciate a woman’s perspective and I’ve already learned a lot in just a few of your videos. Mahalo and aloha from Washington. 🤙🏼
Well, I got my fusion and set up a range at work. Long shipping docks with endless dunnage as a back drop. All my co-workers are men and most have never seen an air rifle before, and none have shot a firearm before. Except one. He was a paratrooper in the army. So I set up the target at 25 yards and zeroed the scope while he called the shots on paper. (He’s done this before) Now with the scope dialed in, time for the cans and water bottles. We’re taking turns and nailing everything we shoot at. All these other macho dock workers just watched. Some even seemed scared. I thought, “Where the hell did you grow up? In a flower garden? Relax.” So I asked the flower boys with grease on their faces if they wanted to take a turn? Most shook their heads no but one brave soul stepped up. See, here’s the deal with most men. Especially of this variety. They think shooting is a man’s domain and so they should automatically be able to do it. Wrong. Men don’t follow instructions very well and make fools of themselves. They’re used to that. So the one volunteer couldn’t see anything through the scope since his eye was too close. “It’s not a telescope or binoculars, you need to back away a couple inches until you got the whole picture. And get your finger off the trigger. You don’t touch the trigger until your target is in the crosshairs. Understand?” He nodded impatiently, his manhood challenged, and I so wished I had a girl here to show them how it’s done. Love your channel, I’m betting on you beating the guy on the other channel who’s practicing right now for it. Don’t hurt him too bad. He’s worried he’ll lose to a woman. He’s a great guy and I love his channel as well. You know who I’m talking about. Have fun. 🤙🏼
You know Angie you did a great job shooting them break barrels that's why I quit using them years ago they're just too hard and they're too fussy to get them to shoot accurately but I thought you did pretty good that's why I shoot the PCP rifles to be able to have the best accuracy
I was one who asked which you liked better. That's after watching you video on the Hunter Extreme Pro and before seeing this video was coming out. I went ahead and ordered the Pro, because it is limited, but iv'e been wanting the Bone Collector for a while , because of the magazine. I have three HW's and was wanting to try a gas ram.
Angie, please try shooting the Hunter Extreme Pro without the shock absorbing scope mount. What i am saying is just mount the scopr on the dovetail mount on the compression tube. I have found those mounts to cause my point of impact change.
Good vid…subbed! I purchased a Hunter Extreme Pro .22 day before yesterday and be here Monday to add to my arsenal. I’ll prob pick up a Gen3i Bone Collector .22 and a handful of mags as well for it next week.
Very useful and nice presentation and review. I have no experience with these modern break magazines. Interesting, but I think it is important that it does not lead to scratches/damage to the pellets. It will affect the precision. Have long experience with the traditional 1250 Hunter with spring, and it is demanding. Angie: please keep in mind that 14-15 grain pellets are somewhat light for these rifles. Even with the JSB, the light weight will mean you get a few very good hits, while others hit poorly. The typical spread .. Recommend going up to pellets in around 20-22 grain. It will stabilize pressure and speed, and will provide more stable assemblies. Sincerely
My Hunter Ex.Pro arrived yesterday and it's better than I thought it would be. Serious power and great accuracy with the Iron sights. It shoots Crosman 14.3g hollow points very good.
There are a lot of factors around this choice.. depends on how you like to seat your pellets, whether you want a big hump on top of your barrel or not, and many other factors that you can list out yourself depending on how you like to shoot, and how much experience you have with break barrels..
Good video and pretty good shooting. Try holding your hand flat just touching the bottom of the stock made a huge difference for me, tighter groups and less fliers.
Am I right that gamo after sales service is not good. Because I was thinking of buying one of there rifles but I’m not sure. Anyone with advice out there please.regards😊
Good job Angie, tough choice to make but accuracy has to be the winning feature for me. Multi shot is a nice option too so, bone collector for me. Thanks for this one!
Not silenced so its louder , don't use the scope it comes with , I used a UTG 3x12x44 mm , make sure all the screws are locked down ( kicks hard ) . Single shot but the breech is all metal . Nice wood stock . Very little plastic on this one . Nice kit , the rifle , scope ( throw away ) 50 paper targets , 2 tins of 25 caliber pellets 300 total , and a storage bag .
Got me a Hunter Extreme Pro .22. Unfortunately, haven’t been able to put more than 50 or so rounds through it. First springer. Learning curve a bit steep. Love the gun still. Thanks for your videos.
I have the Hunter Extreme Pro and use an Optima 3-9x40AO, and it's holding up very well. I had to get a one piece mount though, because, with the two piece that came with the Optima, it kept creeping backward regardless of how tight I set it. I'm getting more energy than she was getting, around 30 fpe. I don't know what her elevation is. I'm at sea level (coastal Florida).
Have you installed JC’s from AGD trigger screw in the Bone Collector? Your groups will tighten up even more. I have installed one in my Bone Collector and the trigger is a lot nicer and my groups have tightened up. I will take it out to 25 and 50 yards to test. I’m shooting the JSB 15.89 grain Diabolo. I can’t do it this weekend as I will be running and shooting my ASA Sanctioned 100 yard Benchrest Competition at FSA this Saturday and then driving to Tyler’s course at NOA and shooting field target there. Maybe the following weekend. I’ll let you know how it does Angie.
I do like the Bone Collector. Nice groups on both. When you talk about recoil, I understand you're not shooting a high power rifle, is it due to the piston, and the internal workings?
Having never shot either of these two guns I am not really in a position to comment, but as a general rule I find heavier pellets work best in magnum springers, a minimum of 18 grains but I would suggest 24 grains plus will help tame that recoil then it is just finding one that suits the gun. As I am sure you know shooting heavy recoiling airguns on a rest like that causes the energy to flip the muzzle end of the barrel, it is a heavy gun so I get it, at my age not sure I could hold those beasts up for shooting off hand or use the artillery hold long enough to get on aim. In the dim and distant recesses of my memory sure I remember someone selling a shooting rest that helped with recoil, sorry dont remember what it was called or who produced it maybe some kind soul will remind me. Of course tuning nearly always helps.
If I was limited to shooting at 40 yards or less, I would choose the 16-17fpe every time in a break barrel. There is no need for more hold sensitive fpe on game inside that range.
I have 3 gamo. A gamo mag swarm Gen 2, silent cat, and wild cat. They are a waste of money. Plastic triggers, plastic breech, plastic locking detent, and plastic safety lever on top of being more expensive than many other break barrels that use steel for all parts mentioned before. My Crosman f4 for example is 13 years old now and still going strong. Never needed a repair, and was only $99. I do not see these plastic gamos lasting near this long.
Wearing glasses can be a big disadvantage when shooting &, are the scopes you're using, AO (Parallax) adjustable for the distance you are shooting at ?? Also, if the guns are New ? - can take 300+ shots to run them in!!
So question for you? I'm looking at getting a 3rd break barrel. I've got a couple gamo's so far that I like and have limited my selection to 2. The gamo bone collector .22 and the gamo swam magnum pro gen3i .22. If you could choose between the 2 which one would you choose and why? Just looking for a little advice before i spend 300$ on a break barrel.
Hey there. Personally I would go for the Gen 3i Bone Collector. It has more power then the Maxxim class but is easier to cock than the Magnum Line. It get's you most of the way to the 30 FPE that the Magnum produces, but in an easier to manage and shoot form factor. Hope that helps. Cheers Rick
LOL. I have the Extreme Pro. I have been shooting Break barrels 15-20 years and shoot magnums a lot. I found the JSB 15.89 grains do best in the Pro. At 30 yards I get dime size groups pretty easy. Like Angie said, she's not a magnum shooter. That Extreme pro sits with my German Air rifles. It's quality is right there with them. The stock is actually better than most German beech stocks. I didn't have to take it apart, clean it up and give it a tune either. Smooth as silk right out of the box and consistent accuracy. Only spring guns I own that I can say that about is My Walther LGV Competition Ultra and LGU Varmint. They still have a little twang, but not bad. I would imagine the Bone collector would have similar accuracy. I also have the Swarm magnum in .177 and get under a dime at 30 yards. It's what convinced me to buy the Hunter Extreme Pro. They took 100's of squirrels with the Bone Collector's so they must be doing something right.
@@charlesoutdoors2424 Thank you Charles. No offense to Angie or Rick, but they should hire you to do the shooting for them, lol. God bless you and have a great Christmas ✝️🎄😃👍
I've watched Rick shooting since he was doing it in his back yard. I've watched Angie shooting since she started. I sometimes think Rick doesn't want groups to tight because he doesn't want buyers to have bigger expectations of accuracy. I know if Rick gets a quarter size group the rifle will most likely stack pellets or close to it. He has reviewed and shot almost every air rifle I own, 20-25 or so. My groups are always better than his review even with the same pellets. I'm sure if Rick wanted, his groups would be much smaller in the reviews. @@springpistonriflefeverlone9611
My hatsan 125 magnum springer .22 cal will shoot better than both of those. I can cover 5 shots with a nickle at 25yards i put a barska scope on it and threw the scope that came on it in the trash good review though.
BSA makes great air rifles. Great barrels. I have a BSA R10 Mk 2 PCP that's awesome. I bet you didn't know Gamo owns BSA though.@@MichaelHanratty-lp4tx
The silencer/moderator is as FAKE as all other carbine gun GAMO claims. Whether it is about decibels or bullet speed, anything coming from GAMO is a SCAM. They have reasonable to good guns (I own four of them) but their claims are pathetic at best. 😂
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I just started watching videos on air rifles. I’m 61 now and back when I had an old Benjamin break barrel springer .177, there was no such thing as the internet or videos of any kind. Everything was word of mouth as far as information went. And air gunning wasn’t all that popular except with kids back then. I really enjoy your videos and just subscribed. I’ve had a few pistols, revolvers and rifles through the years and wasn’t all that interested in air guns since I was a kid. But in my 50’s, a friend of mine got a nice .22 pellet rifle with a decent scope and we shot it in his backyard. I was hooked! Didn’t know what I was missing! Going to the range with firearms is kind of a pain and pretty expensive, so I rarely go anymore. But with an air rifle you can shoot it at home for really cheap. So I just ordered a Gamo 10x Fusion 3i and it was supposed to be delivered today but I guess I’ll have to wait til Monday. Bummer.
What I like about your videos is that you’re a woman. I’ve found through the years that women are better students than men and more honest. My girlfriend had never shot a gun in her life but wanted to learn. So I ran her through the safety rules and range etiquette while she practiced dry-firing drills with my Beretta 92F in our living room. She got it down quickly. Muzzle always down range and trigger discipline. Her first time at the range, she did very well. After the shock of her first shots wore off, she really focused and relaxed. Very impressive groups at 10 yards for her first time. She was a natural. Her second time at the range, she was determined to beat my score. The first round, I let her win and she was pissed! “You’re not even trying!” She yelled. Okay, so I tried harder and I’ll be damned if she wasn’t right there with me. Because now she’s really focused on beating me and she actually kinda did. More of her shots were in the 10 ring than mine but I was shooting faster. Still, she was just naturally patient and accurate.
So, you kinda remind me of her in that you’re really focused and a damn good shot. Lots of women are better than men when it comes to marksmanship with very little training or practice. You’re a pro in air guns and I’m just now getting back into it. I really appreciate a woman’s perspective and I’ve already learned a lot in just a few of your videos. Mahalo and aloha from Washington. 🤙🏼
Well, I got my fusion and set up a range at work. Long shipping docks with endless dunnage as a back drop. All my co-workers are men and most have never seen an air rifle before, and none have shot a firearm before. Except one. He was a paratrooper in the army. So I set up the target at 25 yards and zeroed the scope while he called the shots on paper. (He’s done this before) Now with the scope dialed in, time for the cans and water bottles. We’re taking turns and nailing everything we shoot at. All these other macho dock workers just watched. Some even seemed scared. I thought, “Where the hell did you grow up? In a flower garden? Relax.” So I asked the flower boys with grease on their faces if they wanted to take a turn? Most shook their heads no but one brave soul stepped up. See, here’s the deal with most men. Especially of this variety. They think shooting is a man’s domain and so they should automatically be able to do it. Wrong.
Men don’t follow instructions very well and make fools of themselves. They’re used to that. So the one volunteer couldn’t see anything through the scope since his eye was too close. “It’s not a telescope or binoculars, you need to back away a couple inches until you got the whole picture. And get your finger off the trigger. You don’t touch the trigger until your target is in the crosshairs. Understand?”
He nodded impatiently, his manhood challenged, and I so wished I had a girl here to show them how it’s done.
Love your channel, I’m betting on you beating the guy on the other channel who’s practicing right now for it. Don’t hurt him too bad. He’s worried he’ll lose to a woman. He’s a great guy and I love his channel as well. You know who I’m talking about. Have fun. 🤙🏼
You know Angie you did a great job shooting them break barrels that's why I quit using them years ago they're just too hard and they're too fussy to get them to shoot accurately but I thought you did pretty good that's why I shoot the PCP rifles to be able to have the best accuracy
I was one who asked which you liked better. That's after watching you video on the Hunter Extreme Pro and before seeing this video was coming out. I went ahead and ordered the Pro, because it is limited, but iv'e been wanting the Bone Collector for a while , because of the magazine. I have three HW's and was wanting to try a gas ram.
I appreciate it, and you can never have too many airguns, right? 😊
Angie, please try shooting the Hunter Extreme Pro without the shock absorbing scope mount. What i am saying is just mount the scopr on the dovetail mount on the compression tube. I have found those mounts to cause my point of impact change.
I’ll have to check that out, thanks.
Great review Angie! I like the hunter. Iit reminds me of my benjamin xl
Good vid…subbed! I purchased a Hunter Extreme Pro .22 day before yesterday and be here Monday to add to my arsenal. I’ll prob pick up a Gen3i Bone Collector .22 and a handful of mags as well for it next week.
Very useful and nice presentation and review.
I have no experience with these modern break magazines. Interesting, but I think it is important that it does not lead to scratches/damage to the pellets. It will affect the precision.
Have long experience with the traditional 1250 Hunter with spring, and it is demanding.
Angie: please keep in mind that 14-15 grain pellets are somewhat light for these rifles. Even with the JSB, the light weight will mean you get a few very good hits, while others hit poorly. The typical spread ..
Recommend going up to pellets in around 20-22 grain.
It will stabilize pressure and speed, and will provide more stable assemblies.
Sincerely
My Hunter Ex.Pro arrived yesterday and it's better than I thought it would be. Serious power and great accuracy with the Iron sights. It shoots Crosman 14.3g hollow points very good.
Awesome!
Great video 😊Blessings 💯🌎🙏🙌
There are a lot of factors around this choice.. depends on how you like to seat your pellets, whether you want a big hump on top of your barrel or not, and many other factors that you can list out yourself depending on how you like to shoot, and how much experience you have with break barrels..
My Ruger Impact Max Elite is incredible.
I want to get a .308 airforce texan now too
Good video and pretty good shooting. Try holding your hand flat just touching the bottom of the stock made a huge difference for me, tighter groups and less fliers.
Very good groups, for BOTH, THANKS.
Please do a review, on HATSAN AIRTACT, 177,CHRONY NUMBERS. THANKS
I don’t have that one. Sorry.
Am I right that gamo after sales service is not good. Because I was thinking of buying one of there rifles but I’m not sure. Anyone with advice out there please.regards😊
Good job Angie, tough choice to make but accuracy has to be the winning feature for me. Multi shot is a nice option too so, bone collector for me. Thanks for this one!
Agreed
You’re very welcome!
I'm waiting for the review of the Hunter Extreme they now have in .25.
Just got the Hunter Extreme 25 caliber . Wood stock no pickle on the end , iron sights .
I just got the .25 and if I had to choose, I’d go with the .25.
Not silenced so its louder , don't use the scope it comes with , I used a UTG 3x12x44 mm , make sure all the screws are locked down ( kicks hard ) . Single shot but the breech is all metal . Nice wood stock . Very little plastic on this one . Nice kit , the rifle , scope ( throw away ) 50 paper targets , 2 tins of 25 caliber pellets 300 total , and a storage bag .
Im glad I did .@@airgunangie17
Got me a Hunter Extreme Pro .22.
Unfortunately, haven’t been able to put more than 50 or so rounds through it. First springer. Learning curve a bit steep. Love the gun still.
Thanks for your videos.
I like them both because I have the bone collector but my hunter extreme is a 177 and has lots of power for hunting
Bone Collector for me
Hunter Extreme! Unless you want to use a scope. The magnum power will break a scope
The Hawke scopes have a lifetime warranty, I like those for magnums.
I have the Hunter Extreme Pro and use an Optima 3-9x40AO, and it's holding up very well. I had to get a one piece mount though, because, with the two piece that came with the Optima, it kept creeping backward regardless of how tight I set it.
I'm getting more energy than she was getting, around 30 fpe. I don't know what her elevation is. I'm at sea level (coastal Florida).
Only if you don't know which to buy. 😋
Only the GAMO rifle has a RRR System. It saves the scopes
Bone collector for me as well 😎👍🏻
Have you installed JC’s from AGD trigger screw in the Bone Collector? Your groups will tighten up even more. I have installed one in my Bone Collector and the trigger is a lot nicer and my groups have tightened up. I will take it out to 25 and 50 yards to test. I’m shooting the JSB 15.89 grain Diabolo. I can’t do it this weekend as I will be running and shooting my ASA Sanctioned 100 yard Benchrest Competition at FSA this Saturday and then driving to Tyler’s course at NOA and shooting field target there. Maybe the following weekend. I’ll let you know how it does Angie.
I do like the Bone Collector.
Nice groups on both.
When you talk about recoil, I understand you're not shooting a high power rifle, is it due to the piston, and the internal workings?
Yep you got it!
I think I want one at each of those power levels. I kind of like the models with synthetic stocks
Having never shot either of these two guns I am not really in a position to comment, but as a general rule I find heavier pellets work best in magnum springers, a minimum of 18 grains but I would suggest 24 grains plus will help tame that recoil then it is just finding one that suits the gun. As I am sure you know shooting heavy recoiling airguns on a rest like that causes the energy to flip the muzzle end of the barrel, it is a heavy gun so I get it, at my age not sure I could hold those beasts up for shooting off hand or use the artillery hold long enough to get on aim. In the dim and distant recesses of my memory sure I remember someone selling a shooting rest that helped with recoil, sorry dont remember what it was called or who produced it maybe some kind soul will remind me. Of course tuning nearly always helps.
If I was limited to shooting at 40 yards or less, I would choose the 16-17fpe every time in a break barrel. There is no need for more hold sensitive fpe on game inside that range.
I thought I saw a puddy cat ? I did I did see a puddy cat !! Lol
Hi Tim!! 😊
@@airgunangie17 are you ok ??
@@timmy4539 I am, sorry been out of town. How are you?
@@airgunangie17 I'm about the same hon .
Did you go iguana hunting ? I thought I saw someone say that
@@timmy4539 I guess the same is better than worse? Maybe? I hope they get better.
And yes, I went Iguana hunting with Rick and the Gamo crew.
The magnum duh
I have 3 gamo. A gamo mag swarm Gen 2, silent cat, and wild cat. They are a waste of money. Plastic triggers, plastic breech, plastic locking detent, and plastic safety lever on top of being more expensive than many other break barrels that use steel for all parts mentioned before. My Crosman f4 for example is 13 years old now and still going strong. Never needed a repair, and was only $99. I do not see these plastic gamos lasting near this long.
Your Awsome angie
Wearing glasses can be a big disadvantage when shooting &, are the scopes you're using, AO (Parallax) adjustable for the distance you are shooting at ?? Also, if the guns are New ? - can take 300+ shots to run them in!!
FX 217. 22 gr slugs
Would make a difference in your groups out of the springer
Is the breech on the Hunter Extreme metal or plastic?
Any chance of a Hunter Extreme Swarm ?
So question for you? I'm looking at getting a 3rd break barrel. I've got a couple gamo's so far that I like and have limited my selection to 2. The gamo bone collector .22 and the gamo swam magnum pro gen3i .22. If you could choose between the 2 which one would you choose and why? Just looking for a little advice before i spend 300$ on a break barrel.
Hey there. Personally I would go for the Gen 3i Bone Collector. It has more power then the Maxxim class but is easier to cock than the Magnum Line. It get's you most of the way to the 30 FPE that the Magnum produces, but in an easier to manage and shoot form factor.
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Rick
@THEGatewayToAirguns thanks for advice.
No thank you to both of them if that is the best they can do.
LOL. I have the Extreme Pro. I have been shooting Break barrels 15-20 years and shoot magnums a lot. I found the JSB 15.89 grains do best in the Pro. At 30 yards I get dime size groups pretty easy. Like Angie said, she's not a magnum shooter. That Extreme pro sits with my German Air rifles. It's quality is right there with them. The stock is actually better than most German beech stocks. I didn't have to take it apart, clean it up and give it a tune either. Smooth as silk right out of the box and consistent accuracy. Only spring guns I own that I can say that about is My Walther LGV Competition Ultra and LGU Varmint. They still have a little twang, but not bad. I would imagine the Bone collector would have similar accuracy. I also have the Swarm magnum in .177 and get under a dime at 30 yards. It's what convinced me to buy the Hunter Extreme Pro. They took 100's of squirrels with the Bone Collector's so they must be doing something right.
@@charlesoutdoors2424 Thank you Charles. No offense to Angie or Rick, but they should hire you to do the shooting for them, lol. God bless you and have a great Christmas ✝️🎄😃👍
I've watched Rick shooting since he was doing it in his back yard. I've watched Angie shooting since she started. I sometimes think Rick doesn't want groups to tight because he doesn't want buyers to have bigger expectations of accuracy. I know if Rick gets a quarter size group the rifle will most likely stack pellets or close to it. He has reviewed and shot almost every air rifle I own, 20-25 or so. My groups are always better than his review even with the same pellets. I'm sure if Rick wanted, his groups would be much smaller in the reviews. @@springpistonriflefeverlone9611
👋👋 hi hon ! 🙊🙊🙊 Lol
My hatsan 125 magnum springer .22 cal will shoot better than both of those. I can cover 5 shots with a nickle at 25yards i put a barska scope on it and threw the scope that came on it in the trash good review though.
I wouldn't have any of them sorry but they are not worth the money
What you doing here then lol.
@charlessoutdoor2442 I'm just looking for a better aie rifle. I think I'll stay with BSA
BSA makes great air rifles. Great barrels. I have a BSA R10 Mk 2 PCP that's awesome. I bet you didn't know Gamo owns BSA though.@@MichaelHanratty-lp4tx
The silencer/moderator is as FAKE as all other carbine gun GAMO claims.
Whether it is about decibels or bullet speed, anything coming from GAMO is a SCAM.
They have reasonable to good guns (I own four of them) but their claims are pathetic at best. 😂