This is a very profound explanation of the final petition of the Lord's Prayer. Thank you so much, Prof. Pitre Brant. God bless you. You always enlighten me biblically.
This clears up for me the difference that has slightly troubled me, between the Gaelic "na lig sinn i gcathú", i.e. do no allow/let/permit us into trial or battle, and the English "lead us not into temptation". The Gaelic seems closer to the Greek.
Sister Thomas-Mary taught me essentially the same thing you just said.....when I was in 2nd grade (1981). I'm not picking on the video - I love this channel. I guess I just don't get why what wasn't an issue for a SECOND GRADER almost 40 years ago, all of a sudden is now.
I understand what you are getting at but I think that people now are always trying to find "fault" and are NOT taught these things nowadays. There is no Catechism in most schools like 40 years ago, anymore.
Thank you for this clarification as it’s essentially what I was taught as a child. Honestly though I wish that the controversy surrounding the interpretation of this text wouldn’t have led to a changing of the English text as we’ve known it.
I rarely comment on anyone's posts; but it is good to remember that the changing of the prayer was simply a matter between Francis and the Italian episcopal conference: I very much doubt the Englis-speaking bishops are going to put this on their "must-do" list....at least, I pray that such is not the case. Take care; God bless!
@@philipkane9393 We had a guest priest come do the homily at our parish about 2 Sundays ago. He did lead the church in reciting the Our Father in that new way...I found myself still reciting it as I'd grown up to say it. Couldn't bring myself to do it otherwise...
@@kainosktisis777 if he did that in my church at.75 yo I would have stood up and called him out on it. I have no filter anymore when dealing with modernism. Just last week I had words with one of the priests after a Mass I attended regarding the sobering fact that the alter servers were three little girls. I told him don't be asking me to pray for new Priests then not have young boy serving. It's where the Holy Ghost attends the Mass. Where the young boys might be touched. In my old fashion beliefs we have far too many women and lay people running around the alter during Mass.
Maybe Pope Francis should have watched this before he and the Italian episcopal conference started re-writing the prayer. Great explanation in this video!.
The Latin translation of that Greek word is 'temptatio', which maintains the two original meanings. I admit I can't understand why the Pope, who by the way is of Italian origin and should have a better knowledge of Latin, didn't explain that, but preferred to suggest (impose?) a change. That's the more surprising if we think that still today we Italians say: faccio un tentativo, tento di farlo, that is : I make a trial or I try to do that. Sorry for my childish English.
...and while at it (our Pope) found a better word to translate ``epiousios`` which translates not just for ``our daily bread`` BUT ```our supersubstantial daily bread```
He wanted to change forgive us our trespasses to forgive us our debts because it was changed after interest was allowed to be charged . Catholicism forbid interest on debts up to a few hundred years ago. All debt was to be forgiven every 7 years but bankers are more powerful then the church in this wicked world. Muslims still forbid interest.
Francis should always consult Dr P before opening his big mouth. may God send us a Catholic pope and may Francis embrace the 2,000 year old Catholic faith rather than the world's materialistic ideas. Lord have mercy on him.
My mother language is Portuguese, we say (do not let us fall into temptation). Fist time I was reading the Lord Prayer in English felt so wrong. A good father would not let us to be tempted
In Spanish, the Lord's prayer is said "no nos dejes caer en la tentación", which translations to "don't let us fall into temptation" instead of "don't lewd us into temptation" which in Spanish if translated would be "no nos guies a tentación" or something similar.
I've been wondering about this recently; I would prefer the words, "do not let us be lead into temptation" instead, but this clears up what the actual meaning is. I however really am against ambiguous terms that can easily be misunderstood like this. If the better translation is "do not let us yield to temptation"; then I would argue that we should update the translation of the prayer to say that, rather than letting people being confused or worse thinking that God would "trick" people into temptation.
Job was put through some kind of test or trial of faith. I pray the Our Father because, though I have faith, i am sure it is weak if I am put through the trial. i admit this to God. I am faithful but I am weak.
I'm writing from Argentina. In the Spanish translation of "Our Father" is not ...lead us not.... It is ...let us not fall into temptation....what would be nearer to your explanation which was excellent. Your teachings help me to get growing in my faith but sometimes you speak too fast for non-native speakers. Would you mind slowing down for us? God bless you
It is when desire has reached fruition in mans heart that he himself yields to sin. He is drawn into it through his own thinking, therefore the battle is of the mind and the seal of the Holy Spirit protects the believer.
That's exactly how the Our Father is translated in Spanish, which literally says: "Don't let us fall into temptation". I've always wondered why the English prayer was translated differently. I hope Pope Francis updates the English prayer to its correct sense. God bless.
This is why I say keep me temptation or steer me away from temptation and sin, but deliver me from all.evil..The original ANoster/Syriac Lord's prayer is different that the English version...I feel like I am tried and tested beyond what is fair and sane....I hate the Devil and demons, hate them
So why does the Church not use the proper words « let us not yield to temptation » so that everyone would understand that God could not and would not LEAD us into temptation. As a child I learned the Our Father in the French language and it is quite clear « let us not succumb to temptation » and I have been saying the prayer in this manner for 77 years now. God bless you for explaining the words; now let us use the specific words that everyone could understand. God bless! Great grandma
The Apostle Peter was counseled by Jesus to "rise and pray that you do not enter into temptation" as the band of soldiers were approaching. But only a short while ago he insisted with all his heart and soul that he would go to prison and even to death for Jesus. He apparently refused the counsel, for only a short while later, he denied Jesus (even with oaths) three times. His Lord Jesus had offered him a way out through the prayer based on this petition in the Our Father, but his pride in his own strength prevented him from taking the counsel to heart.
It is written that we are all tested and that through this refiner’s fire we are sanctified. Why should we pray to avoid something which is ultimately a blessing?
Good explanation so why isn’t the pray just Don’t let me be led beyond my strength during trials, but deliver us from evil? Or something like that? Why is this current translation made to be a word for word translation? It makes it seem hard to understand and even seems misleading?
God tempts nobody. Temptation is from the devil. But God leads us into temptation (made by the devil), to give us the possibility to do a good work and show the fidelity to God. It is the Holy Spirit that has lead Jesus into the desert to be temptet by the devil. This was a good work of the Holy Spirit and also Jesus did a good work by resisting to the devil and showing the fidelity to God. But we are not Jesus. We are weak and we profess that we need the help of God not to fall. We will not throw ourselves from the pinnacle of the temple and wait that God will help us. No. We will from ourselves hold away all occasions to sin. It is only God that has the right to put us in an occasion to sin to prove our fidelity.
So, it's obedient response to when Christ told the apostles to pray they don't undergo the test, as well as when Christ told people this is how to pray.
The "peirasmos" in 1 Peter 4:12 sure seems to parallel Paul's discourse in Romans 5 on faith, hope, endurance and love. Shoutout to Dr. Pitre's video on that too. ruclips.net/video/F3m2sWf4Lko/видео.htmlsi=Yp_fD4oFI_ce2Ycs
Maybe. But that translation narrows its meaning to just a single reading of the original phrase. The Evangelists and their subsequent translators (and, presumably, Jesus Himself as the author of the prayer) certainly intended the ambiguity and multiple readings of the original "lead us not into temptation." Jesus was a master rhetorician, and the Evangelists were inspired by the Holy Spirit; I trust the original, ambiguous rendering. The the new translation isn't inaccurate; it just robs the text of it's original richness of meanings. It's a dumbing down of God's word.
Teace Cantu agree 100%, come back to the original and unchangeable church, the Orthodox Church. The only church that has the liturgy which is sung in heaven.
An example: If you go to hang out with drug addicts and prostitutes to have fun, you put yourself into temptation. But if you go to drug addicts and prostitutes to ministry to them out of love for them and because God calls you for that, it's a trial. Then you can ask God not to fall into temptation and if you trust Him he will certainly protect you through His Holy Spirit during your ministry.
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i think i'll just relearn my mother tongue's Our Father as it's clearer than the English one: "ayaw kami itugyan sa panulay" "ayaw itugot nga mahulog kami sa panulay"
Lead us not into temptation but deliver us , is miss understood , lead is pronounced leed, lead is also pronounced led . The prayer is saying , led ( lead) us not into temptation, but delivered us from evil , JESUS speaks of passed tense . From the time of Adam till the moment JESUS Recites this ongoing care , GOD NEVER will lead us in temptation , HE has delivered us👏👍😉😇
All Protestants and Catholics have to come to Jesus directly for their free gift of forgiveness and salvation and Paradise as a first step into Jesus kingdom. There is no other way When we call on Jesus directly Jesus immediately snatches us from the kingdom of darkness and brings us into His kingdom of light and love Colossians 1:13 This is essential for to be a new creation of a believer in Jesus. St. Peter gives us the keys to the kingdom in Acts 2:38-46. Call on Jesus directly with all your heart and see the miracle of salvation in your life. Jesus is knocking at the door of your heart. Jesus is waiting for you to move. God has moved By sending Jesus to deal with mans sin issues Luke 23:34-44
@@alfredhitchcock45 Thanks for your response. Yes saint Peter himself tells us that he wasn’t pope but a fellow elder with John and James 1 Peter 5:1. I’ve subscribed to your RUclips channel and now press the subscribe button. All blessings in Jesus name forevermore
@po18guy Thanks for your response. Yes the early believers broke bread daily from house to house and had fellowship and devoted themselves to the apostles doctrines prayer and healing the sick. The first step each person needs to do is do business directly with the Lord Jesus Christ in order to be snatched from the kingdom of darkness and to become a child of God. We can’t fool God and we call on the Lord Jesus Christ from our hearts ♥️We believe with our hearts and confess with our mouths the Lord Jesus Christ Romans 10:9 Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be forgiven and saved for eternal life with Jesus forevermore. ruclips.net/video/oAqoAgxXdyo/видео.html
@po18guy Thanks again Yes baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance to God the Father and calling on the Lord Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins and salvation and eternal life forevermore with the Lord Jesus Christ ruclips.net/video/gxhpJVpYoTg/видео.html
God can lead us into temptation to test us. God inspired a story about how he can lead us into Temptation to test us in the Bible. That story is in 2 Samuel 11. Even though David had several wives and concubines, David was still tempted by Bathsheebah, after Bathsheba got Pregnant to David, David murdered her Husband Uriah to hide his sin. Then, God sent Samuel the prophet to confront David on his behalf. Finally, God forgave David even though David had married Bathsheba soon after her husband was dead as David had planned. David had more Children with Bathsheeba, one of the Children was King Solomon.
The reason Catholics oppose the Bible is because it opposes them. Following is a list of twenty-two passages which condemn various teaching and practices of the Catholic Church. 1. Exodus 20:4-5 (Images). 2. Ezekiel 18:20 (Original sin). 3. Matthew 20:20-28 (Hierarchy). 4. Matthew 23:5-6 (Clerical dress). 5. Matthew 23:9 ("Father"). 6. Matthew 28:19 (Infant baptism). 7. John 17:11 (Addresses only God as "Holy Father"). 8. Mark 7:8,13 (Tradition). 9. Luke 11:27-28 (Adoration of Mary). 10. Luke 16:26 (Purgatory) 11. Luke 22:24-27 (Primacy of Peter). 12. Romans 6:4 (Pouring). 13. 1 Corinthians 1:2 ("Saints"). 14. Galatians 4:9-11 (Special days). 15. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (Pope has place of God). 16. 1 Timothy 2:5 (Many Mediators) 17. 1 Timothy 3:1-7 (Unmarried bishops). 18. 1 Timothy 4:3 (Forbid marriage). 19. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (Many authorities). 20. Hebrews 8:12 (Indulgences). 21. James 5:16 (Confess to priest). 22. 1 Pet. 2:5,9 ("Priesthood"). No religious institution on earth has as much to fear about its members reading the Bible as the Catholic Church. When Catholics study the Bible they learn that in order to please God, they must discard the many false doctrines which their church has accumulated over the centuries. Following is an excerpt from an address given by the Cardinals to Pope Pius III, and is preserved in the National Library in Paris, Folio No. 1068, Vol. 2, pp. 650-651: "Of all the advice that we can offer your holiness we must open your eyes well and use all possible force in the matter, namely to permit the reading of the gospel as little as possible in all the countries under your jurisdiction. Let the very little part of the gospel suffice which is usually read in mass, and let no one be permitted to read more. So long as people will be content with the small amount, your interest will prosper; but as soon as the people want to read more, your interest will fail. The Bible is a book, which more than any other, has raised against us the tumults and tempests by which we have almost perished. In fact, if one compares the teaching of the Bible with what takes place in our churches, he will soon find discord, and will realize that our teachings are often different from the Bible, and oftener still, contrary to it."
The Bible is a Catholic document. The Catholic Church put together the first ever Bible as we know it and put together the new testament in 382 at the Council of Rome. The Catholic Church decided from dozens of books which ones were considered Sacred Scripture. Did you think it fell down from heaven in tact? You need to study the history of the faith.
@po18guy Then prove me wrong! The fact is you can't prove me wrong if YOUR catholic faith depended on it. Why? Cause every bit of it is true! Here's some more catholic quotes regarding the Bible for you to get a taste of. Enjoy... The Bible Alone was Used in the Early Church There was far more extensive and continuous use of Scriptures in the public service of the early Church than there is among us. [Addis and Arnold, Catholic Dictionary, The Catholic Publication Society, 1887, page 509] Our present convenient compendiums -- the Missal, Breviary, and so on were formed only at the end of a long evolution. In the first period (lasting perhaps till about the fourth century) there were no books except the Bible, from which lesons were read and Psalms were sung. Nothing was written, because nothing was fixed. [Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 9, page 296] Through most of the fourth century, the controversy with the Arians had turned upon Scripture, and appeals to past authority were few. [Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2] On the other hand up to the end of the fourth century, there were practically no infallible definitions available. [Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2]
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker The Bible Alone was Used in the Early Church There was far more extensive and continuous use of Scriptures in the public service of the early Church than there is among us. [Addis and Arnold, Catholic Dictionary, The Catholic Publication Society, 1887, page 509] Our present convenient compendiums -- the Missal, Breviary, and so on were formed only at the end of a long evolution. In the first period (lasting perhaps till about the fourth century) there were no books except the Bible, from which lesons were read and Psalms were sung. Nothing was written, because nothing was fixed. [Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 9, page 296] Through most of the fourth century, the controversy with the Arians had turned upon Scripture, and appeals to past authority were few. [Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2] On the other hand up to the end of the fourth century, there were practically no infallible definitions available. [Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2]
@@dctalk30 No it wasn't. They referred to some OT texts and the teachings of Jesus was taught orally. Jesus never wrote anything down on parchment. He left a Church and the Bible is the product of His Church, it's part of our Sacred Tradition.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker You said he Bible is the product of His Church, however, the fact that Jesus never mentions the Catholic Church in the Bible should be very telling. Jesus also said in Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. However, you Catholics reject that. Jesus was stating that to those who use the word father as a religious title. Theres so many things the catholics do that goes against the Bible. I could go on and on and on. Here are some more catholic quotes regarding the Bible. The Bible is a Dead Letter The Scripture indeed is a divine book but it is a dead letter, which has to be explained, and cannot exercise the action which the preacher can obtain. [Our Priesthood, page 155] A dead and speechless book. [Question Box, 1913 edition, page 67]
I think theologically it is okay refer to Abraham god tested him to sacrifice his own son and Abraham won for he willed to do so the same to Jesus when god led him to desert to be tested Jesus won ,the aim of god is to measure the weight of our faith against eval ,I think any loving teacher would do so
Jesus Said.."Obey My Sayings and Seek Me and My Righteousness..I Will Give You Everything You Need and Deliver You from Evil.". That is Jesus Gospel and Jesus Promise. That is everything a person could ever want! Jesus is ALL You Need! The rest of the bible is Men's opinions. To Know Jesus..is to Seek Him Yourself and He Will Reveal Himself To You! You Do Not Know Jesus by going to church and listening to men's opinions ABOUT Jesus.
@po18guy Job didn’t have a Bible. God told Job he didn’t even need answers to his questions..and not to listen to his friends..they were all wrong. God Alone is Enough!
@po18guy Jesus Helped me read the whole bible. He showed me what was relevant for me. I Trust Jesus. I am sorry..but your opinion means nothing to me. God is my Judge..not you.
@po18guy Jesus Said..”Let No Man be called rabbi.” I do as Jesus says. Jesus is my Teacher. You are free to listen to anyone you want. I really don’t care!
The Catholic church has changed everything else, so why not the Lord's prayer as well. The Lord's prayer was said by God himself. So every verse in the Lord's Prayer means exactly what it says. What the Catholic church needs to scrutinise is the Hail Mary, just to begin with that is...
It is not the Our Father, it is The Lord's Prayer. And Jesus gave us that prayer because He wanted us to pray to God and God alone, not Mary and not any of the saints.
This is a very profound explanation of the final petition of the Lord's Prayer. Thank you so much, Prof. Pitre Brant. God bless you. You always enlighten me biblically.
Thank you for these videos Dr. Brant pitre these videos help me realise the original meaning of the Greek texts in the Bible
Thank you so much
As usual, clear, concise and on point.
This clears up for me the difference that has slightly troubled me, between the Gaelic "na lig sinn i gcathú", i.e. do no allow/let/permit us into trial or battle, and the English "lead us not into temptation". The Gaelic seems closer to the Greek.
Same with the Spanish one: "no nos dejes caer en tentación", which is closer to the "let us not yield to temptation"
THIS WAS BRILLIANT THANK YOU!!!
Sister Thomas-Mary taught me essentially the same thing you just said.....when I was in 2nd grade (1981).
I'm not picking on the video - I love this channel.
I guess I just don't get why what wasn't an issue for a SECOND GRADER almost 40 years ago, all of a sudden is now.
I understand what you are getting at but I think that people now are always trying to find "fault" and are NOT taught these things nowadays. There is no Catechism in most schools like 40 years ago, anymore.
not all of us payed attention - as we should have - when taught the catechism, and thus need this. :)
I got it from Bishop Fulton Sheen. Now our enlightened Pope wants to mess with wording. He's already changing the Italian translation.
babes have a greater understanding as Jesus said.
WOW !!!! Excellent explanation. Thank you Dr. Pitre.
Dr Brant Pitre thank you for all your excellent work.
Excellent explanation Dr. Pitre! Thanks and God bless you in your ministry.
Awesome explanation - these are such nuggets of pure GOLD!!
Thank you. I totally needed this today.
I like to say: “Leave me not to temptation”.
Thank you for this clarification as it’s essentially what I was taught as a child. Honestly though I wish that the controversy surrounding the interpretation of this text wouldn’t have led to a changing of the English text as we’ve known it.
I rarely comment on anyone's posts; but it is good to remember that the changing of the prayer was simply a matter between Francis and the Italian episcopal conference: I very much doubt the Englis-speaking bishops are going to put this on their "must-do" list....at least, I pray that such is not the case. Take care; God bless!
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We had a guest priest come do the homily at our parish about 2 Sundays ago. He did lead the church in reciting the Our Father in that new way...I found myself still reciting it as I'd grown up to say it. Couldn't bring myself to do it otherwise...
@@kainosktisis777 if he did that in my church at.75 yo I would have stood up and called him out on it. I have no filter anymore when dealing with modernism. Just last week I had words with one of the priests after a Mass I attended regarding the sobering fact that the alter servers were three little girls. I told him don't be asking me to pray for new Priests then not have young boy serving. It's where the Holy Ghost attends the Mass. Where the young boys might be touched. In my old fashion beliefs we have far too many women and lay people running around the alter during Mass.
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Perhaps, but where are the men - & the priests?
Perhaps when there is no shortage of either, that may change.
@@kainosktisis777 exactly what the priest said.
Always love the insight.., Yahuah Bless!
Maybe Pope Francis should have watched this before he and the Italian episcopal conference started re-writing the prayer. Great explanation in this video!.
The Latin translation of that Greek word is 'temptatio', which maintains the two original meanings. I admit I can't understand why the Pope, who by the way is of Italian origin and should have a better knowledge of Latin, didn't explain that, but preferred to suggest (impose?) a change. That's the more surprising if we think that still today we Italians say: faccio un tentativo, tento di farlo, that is : I make a trial or I try to do that.
Sorry for my childish English.
...and while at it (our Pope) found a better word to translate ``epiousios`` which translates not just for ``our daily bread`` BUT ```our supersubstantial daily bread```
@@giannisalzani7943 Italian is his second language is why.
He wanted to change forgive us our trespasses to forgive us our debts because it was changed after interest was allowed to be charged . Catholicism forbid interest on debts up to a few hundred years ago. All debt was to be forgiven every 7 years but bankers are more powerful then the church in this wicked world. Muslims still forbid interest.
Francis should always consult Dr P before opening his big mouth. may God send us a Catholic pope and may Francis embrace the 2,000 year old Catholic faith rather than the world's materialistic ideas. Lord have mercy on him.
Thank you for clear and easy explanation!
My mother language is Portuguese, we say (do not let us fall into temptation). Fist time I was reading the Lord Prayer in English felt so wrong. A good father would not let us to be tempted
In Spanish, the Lord's prayer is said "no nos dejes caer en la tentación", which translations to "don't let us fall into temptation" instead of "don't lewd us into temptation" which in Spanish if translated would be "no nos guies a tentación" or something similar.
I've been wondering about this recently; I would prefer the words, "do not let us be lead into temptation" instead, but this clears up what the actual meaning is. I however really am against ambiguous terms that can easily be misunderstood like this. If the better translation is "do not let us yield to temptation"; then I would argue that we should update the translation of the prayer to say that, rather than letting people being confused or worse thinking that God would "trick" people into temptation.
Very clear explanation. Thank you.
Job was put through some kind of test or trial of faith. I pray the Our Father because, though I have faith, i am sure it is weak if I am put through the trial. i admit this to God. I am faithful but I am weak.
I'm writing from Argentina. In the Spanish translation of "Our Father" is not ...lead us not.... It is ...let us not fall into temptation....what would be nearer to your explanation which was excellent.
Your teachings help me to get growing in my faith but sometimes you speak too fast for non-native speakers. Would you mind slowing down for us? God bless you
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Really grateful for this. Thank you
It is when desire has reached fruition in mans heart that he himself yields to sin. He is drawn into it through his own thinking, therefore the battle is of the mind and the seal of the Holy Spirit protects the believer.
That's exactly how the Our Father is translated in Spanish, which literally says:
"Don't let us fall into temptation".
I've always wondered why the English prayer was translated differently.
I hope Pope Francis updates the English prayer to its correct sense.
God bless.
This is why I say keep me temptation or steer me away from temptation and sin, but deliver me from all.evil..The original ANoster/Syriac Lord's prayer is different that the English version...I feel like I am tried and tested beyond what is fair and sane....I hate the Devil and demons, hate them
A good example of why I prefer Latin Mass. Its meaning does not become distorted by sociohistorical language use.
So why does the Church not use the proper words « let us not yield to temptation » so that everyone would understand that God could not and would not LEAD us into temptation. As a child I learned the Our Father in the French language and it is quite clear « let us not succumb to temptation » and I have been saying the prayer in this manner for 77 years now. God bless you for explaining the words; now let us use the specific words that everyone could understand. God bless!
Great grandma
Enjoyed and much appreciated, thank you!! 🙏
In Spanish that part of the Lord’s Prayer is said “ let us not fall into temptation”
Grat explanation
The Apostle Peter was counseled by Jesus to "rise and pray that you do not enter into temptation" as the band of soldiers were approaching. But only a short while ago he insisted with all his heart and soul that he would go to prison and even to death for Jesus. He apparently refused the counsel, for only a short while later, he denied Jesus (even with oaths) three times. His Lord Jesus had offered him a way out through the prayer based on this petition in the Our Father, but his pride in his own strength prevented him from taking the counsel to heart.
That’s a good take
Truly they enter not, and even worse prevent others who are entering..... Run.
I think in other languages there isn't the same problem with this line in the Lord's prayer as in English?
It is written that we are all tested and that through this refiner’s fire we are sanctified. Why should we pray to avoid something which is ultimately a blessing?
So deep
Good explanation so why isn’t the pray just
Don’t let me be led beyond my strength during trials, but deliver us from evil? Or something like that?
Why is this current translation made to be a word for word translation? It makes it seem hard to understand and even seems misleading?
God does not tempt us BUT allows us to be in trials so that we can grow in spirit
Peirasmos - temptation/trial
God tempts nobody. Temptation is from the devil. But God leads us into temptation (made by the devil), to give us the possibility to do a good work and show the fidelity to God. It is the Holy Spirit that has lead Jesus into the desert to be temptet by the devil. This was a good work of the Holy Spirit and also Jesus did a good work by resisting to the devil and showing the fidelity to God. But we are not Jesus. We are weak and we profess that we need the help of God not to fall. We will not throw ourselves from the pinnacle of the temple and wait that God will help us. No. We will from ourselves hold away all occasions to sin. It is only God that has the right to put us in an occasion to sin to prove our fidelity.
@po18guy Exactly. God wants us to be tested to be confirmed. But we have to avoid the temptation. ... et ne nos inducas in tentationem ...
Isn't the same word used regarding Jesus's temptation, where he was led by the Holy Spirit to be tempted?
So, it's obedient response to when Christ told the apostles to pray they don't undergo the test, as well as when Christ told people this is how to pray.
Dr Pitre, why is Pope Francis trying to change the Lord's prayer again?
he changed last June (2019)
Still a tough one to wrap your head around. But I don't want it changed. I understand the Pope has already changed the phrase in Italian.
. . . "also lead us and protect us from yielding, when put to the test -- but deliver us from evil." Is that a closer way to say it in English?
Maybe this should be forwarded to Rome...
Yes.
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In spanish is clear what the dr explains -no nos dejes caer en tentación-
The "peirasmos" in 1 Peter 4:12 sure seems to parallel Paul's discourse in Romans 5 on faith, hope, endurance and love. Shoutout to Dr. Pitre's video on that too. ruclips.net/video/F3m2sWf4Lko/видео.htmlsi=Yp_fD4oFI_ce2Ycs
Didn't they just change it to Do not let us fall into temptation ?
Maybe. But that translation narrows its meaning to just a single reading of the original phrase. The Evangelists and their subsequent translators (and, presumably, Jesus Himself as the author of the prayer) certainly intended the ambiguity and multiple readings of the original "lead us not into temptation." Jesus was a master rhetorician, and the Evangelists were inspired by the Holy Spirit; I trust the original, ambiguous rendering. The the new translation isn't inaccurate; it just robs the text of it's original richness of meanings. It's a dumbing down of God's word.
c.e. Richard and they are good at it
@@c.e.richard7855 Couldn't agree more.
Teace Cantu agree 100%, come back to the original and unchangeable church, the Orthodox Church. The only church that has the liturgy which is sung in heaven.
@@SLVBULL And the Church that doesn't accept the papacy and primacy of Rome, which was clearly believed by the fathers...
An example: If you go to hang out with drug addicts and prostitutes to have fun, you put yourself into temptation. But if you go to drug addicts and prostitutes to ministry to them out of love for them and because God calls you for that, it's a trial. Then you can ask God not to fall into temptation and if you trust Him he will certainly protect you through His Holy Spirit during your ministry.
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Hebrew 11: 6 Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please God well, for whoever approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him.
20 By faith also Isaac blessed Jacob and Eʹsau concerning things to come.21 By faith Jacob, when about to die, blessed each of the sons of Joseph and worshipped while leaning on the top of his staff.22 By faith Joseph, nearing his end , spoke of the exodus of the sons of Israel, and he gave instructions concerning his bones. AMOS 5:15 Hate what is bad, and love what is good, Let Justice prevail in the City gate. It may be that God of the God of armies Will show favor to the remaining ones of Joseph. Roman 14:8 for if we live, we live to Lord, and if we die to Lord, so both if we live and if we die, we belong to savior Lord Jesus Christ. Philippines 3:20 But our citizenship exists in the heavens, and we are eagerly awaiting for a savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ. Phil 4:9 The things that you learned as well as accepted and heard and saw in connection with me, practice these, and the God of peace Will be with you. Amen ♥️🙏 #freiheit #meinungsfreiheit #wahrheit #sosialgerechtigkeit #Solidarity
It's just a bad translation. In Portuguese the prayer says "do not allow us to fall into temptation"
Why don’t we just say deliver us from evil
Wait...don’t I want God to lead me THROUGH TRIAL so I don’t FALL INTO TEMPTATION?
That would be the expanded version
In Tagalog language we say it “Do not allow us to enter into temptation.”
At huwag mo kaming ipahintulot sa tukso
i think i'll just relearn my mother tongue's Our Father as it's clearer than the English one:
"ayaw kami itugyan sa panulay"
"ayaw itugot nga mahulog kami sa panulay"
Anong dialect yan
At huwag mo kaming ipahintulot sa tukso
Why not make the prayer "do not LET US FALL into temptation?
Lead us not into temptation but deliver us , is miss understood , lead is pronounced leed, lead is also pronounced led . The prayer is saying , led ( lead) us not into temptation, but delivered us from evil , JESUS speaks of passed tense . From the time of Adam till the moment JESUS Recites this ongoing care , GOD NEVER will lead us in temptation , HE has delivered us👏👍😉😇
All Protestants and Catholics have to come to Jesus directly for their free gift of forgiveness and salvation and Paradise as a first step into Jesus kingdom. There is no other way When we call on Jesus directly Jesus immediately snatches us from the kingdom of darkness and brings us into His kingdom of light and love Colossians 1:13 This is essential for to be a new creation of a believer in Jesus. St. Peter gives us the keys to the kingdom in Acts 2:38-46. Call on Jesus directly with all your heart and see the miracle of salvation in your life. Jesus is knocking at the door of your heart. Jesus is waiting for you to move. God has moved By sending Jesus to deal with mans sin issues Luke 23:34-44
Peter is the 1st Pope
Francis is the last Pope
@@alfredhitchcock45 Thanks for your response. Yes saint Peter himself tells us that he wasn’t pope but a fellow elder with John and James 1 Peter 5:1. I’ve subscribed to your RUclips channel and now press the subscribe button. All blessings in Jesus name forevermore
@po18guy Thanks for your response. Yes the early believers broke bread daily from house to house and had fellowship and devoted themselves to the apostles doctrines prayer and healing the sick. The first step each person needs to do is do business directly with the Lord Jesus Christ in order to be snatched from the kingdom of darkness and to become a child of God. We can’t fool God and we call on the Lord Jesus Christ from our hearts ♥️We believe with our hearts and confess with our mouths the Lord Jesus Christ Romans 10:9 Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be forgiven and saved for eternal life with Jesus forevermore. ruclips.net/video/oAqoAgxXdyo/видео.html
@@alfredhitchcock45 Thanks again ruclips.net/video/oAqoAgxXdyo/видео.html
@po18guy Thanks again Yes baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance to God the Father and calling on the Lord Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins and salvation and eternal life forevermore with the Lord Jesus Christ ruclips.net/video/gxhpJVpYoTg/видео.html
Every society on Earth teaches people not to go against their rules and customes-temptation, nothing to see here.
God can lead us into temptation to test us.
God inspired a story about how he can lead us into Temptation to test us in the Bible.
That story is in 2 Samuel 11.
Even though David had several wives and concubines, David was still tempted by Bathsheebah, after Bathsheba got Pregnant to David, David murdered her Husband Uriah to hide his sin.
Then, God sent Samuel the prophet to confront David on his behalf. Finally, God forgave David even though David had married Bathsheba soon after her husband was dead as David had planned.
David had more Children with Bathsheeba, one of the Children was King Solomon.
The reason Catholics oppose the Bible is because it opposes them. Following is a list of twenty-two passages which condemn various teaching and practices of the Catholic Church.
1. Exodus 20:4-5 (Images).
2. Ezekiel 18:20 (Original sin).
3. Matthew 20:20-28 (Hierarchy).
4. Matthew 23:5-6 (Clerical dress).
5. Matthew 23:9 ("Father").
6. Matthew 28:19 (Infant baptism).
7. John 17:11 (Addresses only God as "Holy Father").
8. Mark 7:8,13 (Tradition).
9. Luke 11:27-28 (Adoration of Mary).
10. Luke 16:26 (Purgatory)
11. Luke 22:24-27 (Primacy of Peter).
12. Romans 6:4 (Pouring).
13. 1 Corinthians 1:2 ("Saints").
14. Galatians 4:9-11 (Special days).
15. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (Pope has place of God).
16. 1 Timothy 2:5 (Many Mediators)
17. 1 Timothy 3:1-7 (Unmarried bishops).
18. 1 Timothy 4:3 (Forbid marriage).
19. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (Many authorities).
20. Hebrews 8:12 (Indulgences).
21. James 5:16 (Confess to priest).
22. 1 Pet. 2:5,9 ("Priesthood").
No religious institution on earth has as much to fear about its members reading the Bible as the Catholic Church. When Catholics study the Bible they learn that in order to please God, they must discard the many false doctrines which their church has accumulated over the centuries. Following is an excerpt from an address given by the Cardinals to Pope Pius III, and is preserved in the National Library in Paris, Folio No. 1068, Vol. 2, pp. 650-651:
"Of all the advice that we can offer your holiness we must open your eyes well and use all possible force in the matter, namely to permit the reading of the gospel as little as possible in all the countries under your jurisdiction. Let the very little part of the gospel suffice which is usually read in mass, and let no one be permitted to read more. So long as people will be content with the small amount, your interest will prosper; but as soon as the people want to read more, your interest will fail. The Bible is a book, which more than any other, has raised against us the tumults and tempests by which we have almost perished. In fact, if one compares the teaching of the Bible with what takes place in our churches, he will soon find discord, and will realize that our teachings are often different from the Bible, and oftener still, contrary to it."
The Bible is a Catholic document. The Catholic Church put together the first ever Bible as we know it and put together the new testament in 382 at the Council of Rome. The Catholic Church decided from dozens of books which ones were considered Sacred Scripture. Did you think it fell down from heaven in tact? You need to study the history of the faith.
@po18guy Then prove me wrong! The fact is you can't prove me wrong if YOUR catholic faith depended on it. Why? Cause every bit of it is true! Here's some more catholic quotes regarding the Bible for you to get a taste of. Enjoy...
The Bible Alone was Used in the Early Church
There was far more extensive and continuous use of Scriptures in the public service of the early Church than there is among us.
[Addis and Arnold, Catholic Dictionary, The Catholic Publication Society, 1887, page 509]
Our present convenient compendiums -- the Missal, Breviary, and so on were formed only at the end of a long evolution. In the first period (lasting perhaps till about the fourth century) there were no books except the Bible, from which lesons were read and Psalms were sung. Nothing was written, because nothing was fixed.
[Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 9, page 296]
Through most of the fourth century, the controversy with the Arians had turned upon Scripture, and appeals to past authority were few.
[Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2]
On the other hand up to the end of the fourth century, there were practically no infallible definitions available.
[Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2]
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker The Bible Alone was Used in the Early Church
There was far more extensive and continuous use of Scriptures in the public service of the early Church than there is among us.
[Addis and Arnold, Catholic Dictionary, The Catholic Publication Society, 1887, page 509]
Our present convenient compendiums -- the Missal, Breviary, and so on were formed only at the end of a long evolution. In the first period (lasting perhaps till about the fourth century) there were no books except the Bible, from which lesons were read and Psalms were sung. Nothing was written, because nothing was fixed.
[Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 9, page 296]
Through most of the fourth century, the controversy with the Arians had turned upon Scripture, and appeals to past authority were few.
[Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2]
On the other hand up to the end of the fourth century, there were practically no infallible definitions available.
[Catholic Encyclopedia, 15 Volume Special Edition under the auspices of the Knights of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee, The Encyclopedia Press Inc., New York, 1913, Volume 6, page 2]
@@dctalk30 No it wasn't. They referred to some OT texts and the teachings of Jesus was taught orally. Jesus never wrote anything down on parchment. He left a Church and the Bible is the product of His Church, it's part of our Sacred Tradition.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker You said he Bible is the product of His Church, however, the fact that Jesus never mentions the Catholic Church in the Bible should be very telling. Jesus also said in Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. However, you Catholics reject that. Jesus was stating that to those who use the word father as a religious title. Theres so many things the catholics do that goes against the Bible. I could go on and on and on. Here are some more catholic quotes regarding the Bible.
The Bible is a Dead Letter
The Scripture indeed is a divine book but it is a dead letter, which has to be explained, and cannot exercise the action which the preacher can obtain.
[Our Priesthood, page 155]
A dead and speechless book.
[Question Box, 1913 edition, page 67]
Lol 3:48 Dr. Pitre's definitely cheated on a test! Jk jk
I think theologically it is okay refer to Abraham god tested him to sacrifice his own son and Abraham won for he willed to do so the same to Jesus when god led him to desert to be tested Jesus won ,the aim of god is to measure the weight of our faith against eval ,I think any loving teacher would do so
1. Abraham’s sacrifice of Isaac
2. Jesus temptation at the desert for 40 days and 40 nights
Also reminds me of the movie “The Last Temptation of Jesus Christ”
A lot to chew on.
I'm sorry Dr. Pitre, but in this case you are wrong, especially about the Greek.
Jesus Said.."Obey My Sayings and Seek Me and My Righteousness..I Will Give You Everything You Need and Deliver You from Evil.". That is Jesus Gospel and Jesus Promise. That is everything a person could ever want! Jesus is ALL You Need! The rest of the bible is Men's opinions. To Know Jesus..is to Seek Him Yourself and He Will Reveal Himself To You! You Do Not Know Jesus by going to church and listening to men's opinions ABOUT Jesus.
@po18guy Job didn’t have a Bible. God told Job he didn’t even need answers to his questions..and not to listen to his friends..they were all wrong. God Alone is Enough!
@po18guy sorry..but God..Alone is Enough. You can certainly go to Church and listen to men if you want to..but you don’t need to.
@po18guy Jesus Helped me read the whole bible. He showed me what was relevant for me. I Trust Jesus. I am sorry..but your opinion means nothing to me. God is my Judge..not you.
@po18guy why? Because I don’t agree with You? Who died and made you God?
@po18guy Jesus Said..”Let No Man be called rabbi.” I do as Jesus says. Jesus is my Teacher. You are free to listen to anyone you want. I really don’t care!
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The Catholic church has changed everything else, so why not the Lord's prayer as well.
The Lord's prayer was said by God himself. So every verse in the Lord's Prayer means exactly what it says.
What the Catholic church needs to scrutinise is the Hail Mary, just to begin with that is...
It is not the Our Father, it is The Lord's Prayer. And Jesus gave us that prayer because He wanted us to pray to God and God alone, not Mary and not any of the saints.
Why would that be wrong?