Purgatory in the Bible
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2019
- Where is purgatory in the Bible?
If you asked many people where is Purgatory in the Bible, you may either get blank stares, possibly be told, vaguely, it's somewhere in the Old Testament (which is true), perhaps in the letters of St. Paul (which is true), or even still, the 1st Letter of John (which is also true).
However, not many people take note that Jesus himself speaks about an eschatological (i.e., an end times) reality in addition to Heaven and Hell as a real option, contingent upon how we act in this life. And, this third option has traditionally been called purgatory. And not only does Jesus speak about purgatory, but he Jesus speaks about this reality in more than one place in the Gospels using parables to describe it (this video doesn't cover the only place that Jesus speaks of this reality).
So if you've ever wanted to know where is purgatory in the Bible, or perhaps, more specifically, did Jesus ever speak of purgatory, then check out this video above from the video series, The Mass Readings Explained, with Dr. Brant Pitre.
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As an independent fundamental Baptist (Protestant), this has changed my mind a bit. I’ll do my own study over the matter (referencing scripture with scripture, no private interpretations, etc) to clarify it for myself. But this is intriguing at the very least.
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You should look into the more moderate Orthodox View of “The 3rd State”, for want of a better term. We’ve never quite settled on what to call it.
You see, nearly everything about the sources for this video and most of the discussions are true. What we disagree on is the conclusion of purgatory as defined is necessarily entirely accurate and absolutely disagree that indulgences are the right way to deal with the problem.
There IS a third state, we are required to pray for the dead there, but we Orthodox don’t agree that enough is known to dogmatically define it beyond what’s revealed in scripture, and even if a reconciled Orthodox Catholic Church eventually DOES come to agree on the metaphysic, a condition of reunification will be that all dogmas unique to Rome since 1054 will have to be at least temporarily rescinded until re-confirmed by a LEGITIMATE Ecumenical Council, as we will NEVER accept Papal Supremacy. Orthodoxy will ever be a Confederated Hierarchy Of Bishops. Rome must return to this; God does not want an absolute monarchy on earth, HE is our only absolute Monarch. Confederation was His plan in the Book of Judges, and we believe was his plan for the Church. ALL Patriarchs have the “Keys to the Kingdom”; The Rock has many peaks.
Anyway, I can also confirm that only Requiem Mass/Liturgy will ever be recognized as the appropriate method for helping the dead. We will never accept the Indulgence System. It has been proven too corruptible and prone to selfish motivation even without tithe abuse.
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And see my recent videos as well. I will update them as often as I can. My focus is on Western Rite masses, but I will include any sort of Orthodox sermons, as I travel and Greeks outnumber us 10-1, so manage.
@Fisticuffs Guilde During Fatima, when Mother Mary appeared to the three children, I believe it was St. Lucia who had asked Mary about two friends of hers who had recently died. Mother Mary, one she told to Lucia was in Heaven and the other was in Purgatory and would remain there until the end of of the world. I am also a Catholic convert. Still miss RCIA at times. Purgatory is mentioned in the Bible, just not by name. Jesus spoke alot in parables and not everything should be taken literally. You need to try and know what is to be taken literally and what is a metaphor. That's tough, but that's where videos like this help and there are also Catholic books on it. You may even have a Catholic bookstore near where you live. Ask you Priest or Deacon.
Fisticuffs Guilde; Purgatory is Biblical, it may not be explicitly spelled out in Scripture, but nonetheless it is implicitly taught in Scripture. The word Purgatory like Trinity or the Incarnation may not be in Scripture but the concepts are. We also know that even the jews before Christ’s believed in praying the dead. Trinity is one of the foundational teachings of christianity even though the word doesn’t appear in Scripture, but God revealed both the Trinity and Purgatory to us. There actually are several areas in Scripture where the Doctrine of Purgatory can be found in 1st Corinthians 3 says; “ON THE DAY A MAN DIES HE WILL BE JUDGED, AND FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVED IN JESUS THEIR WORKS WILL BE TESTED BY FIRE” and Verse 15 says; “IF ANY MAN’S WORK IS BURNED UP, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS, THOUGH HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED.” So there must be some other ‘place’ that is neither heaven nor hell and catholics call that Purgatory is God’s “refining fire.”
Purgatory is rooted in Christ’s promise we must be perfect. According to Scripture, man must attain the highest perfection to enter into heaven and if that perfection is not attained by the time of death, then he/she must be purified to reach that perfection entering in heaven.
The need for purgation thus from the promises of God we shall one day perfect “YOU MUST BE PERFECT AS THE HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT.” (Mtt. 5: 48, Rev. 3:2.). (2 Cor. 7: 1; James 1: 4) St. Paul says; “MAY GOD WHO HAS BEGUN IN US. BY GOD’S GRACE, IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO COMPLETION” and that means the purification process continues even after death. Heaven is also described in the Bible as a place of those who have been made perfect (Hebrew 12: 23; Rev. 21: 27).
@@eldermillennial8330 If you will never accept Papal supremacy, then you clearly aren't Christian. The Holy Catholic Church has had plenty of LEGITIMATE Church councils, and Purgatory is an infallible fact of truth.
@Fisticuffs Guilde Here are many of the scriptures which are referring to Purgatory in the Bible.
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Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven."
2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.".
Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing.
Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
(NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.)
Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts.
Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt.
Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. "
Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.
1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire."
1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison:
(NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
I think Jesus also talks about purgatory in Matthew 5:20-26 when he said "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26 Truly I tell you, *you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.* "
I believe this implies finite punishment, but I would like to hear scholars opinions on this.
You make an interesting case. In my Protestant years, I had read this passage as your “cases 3 and 4” (many blows versus few blows) as being a mere amplification of cases 1 and 2 (the faithful versus foolish stewards). But I can see how the case can be made for cases 3 and 4 being ADDITIONAL situations. Also, the wording here - “steward” and “servant” - CLEARLY indicates people who have an existing relationship with Jesus, not just anyone from off the streets. So there can be no doubt that Jesus is talking about his followers - CHRISTIANS - here.
Additionally, we have 1 Peter 4:17-18 to reinforce this concept: “For it is time for judgment to begin with the God's household, and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, if it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the sinner?”
Clearly, right here in the Bible, we have this: Christians are going to be judged, too! And it is hard even for them to be saved - OR, at least hard for them to go straight in to Glory without any punishment/purification whatsoever. The passage talking about our works being “tested by fire” definitely applies here, especially regarding those who “will still be saved, but only as those escaping through the flames.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15.
When I was a Protestant, these passages perplexed me, and I struggled with the meaning of them. Now Catholic and well catechized, it all comes together to make sense. PERFECT sense (I LOVE how the Church does that!)
Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when HE HAD BY HIMSELF PURGED OUR SINS, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high." If Christ Himself has purged our sins THEY ARE PURGED, PERIOD. The RCC is a huge false religion.
@@AVB2 incorrect. Try John 20:22-23. Jesus DOES forgive all our sins, but you MUST use his prescribed means for obtaining forgiveness.
It is no secret which sins that can be forgiven by Jesus and which sins are not simply by reading the scriptures and then obeying them.
@@AVB2 How do you read the parable as, then? And by the way, I totally agree with you. Jesus the Messiah forgives/purges our sins. But He also tells us we must repent of our sins to be forgiven of them (“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9, note John says we must confess our sins) and also ("Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord." Acts 3:19). And many other verses support this. So if someone is saved in Faith by the Lord Jesus Christ, yet they have sins they have not repented for, then they will be "beaten" for these sins because they were not ready for judgement, but of course still saved and given Eternal Life by Christ. Or you could also say they will be tested by fire and escape out of flames like as described in 1st Corinthians 3. Essentially, on the Last Day, the Lord of Hosts will send the majority of people to outer darkness and eternal destruction, but among the saved there will then be those who were ready for His coming and will be given glory and Eternal Life in the Kingdom of God, and those who were not ready and will be given a beating but then the Lord will give them Eternal Life as well. And then there will be those who never receive the Message of God, and they will also be given a beating but then God will allow them Eternal Life in His Kingdom.
Hebrews 1:3 is incorrect? Says who?@@donm-tv8cm
Thank you for helping me to understand this. I'm a relatively new convert (3 years ago), and never understood Purgatory until now.
Todd ask yourself did Jesus or the Apostles talk about Purgatory? No. Then why are they. His Apostles didn't. I am so tired of these people assuming and LYING I am REPENTING and asking God for my GENERATION and body life holy Spirit back enough of this mess.
Jesus absolutely talked about getting purified thru fire before Heaven. The more you read and research, the more the Holy Spirit will fill you with wisdom and understanding. Nothing unpure can enter Heaven. Jesus forgives us (ONLY if we ASK for forgiveness) but He then purifies us in Purgatory. @@TriciaPerry-ef7bi
@TriciaPerry-ef7bi did you actually play this video?
Did Jesus or the Apostle talk about Bible yes or no.
Should have stayed a Protestant.
I know this is unrelated, but I did not know Mother Theresa got spit on from asking a baker if he had a loaf of bread for starving orphan children and she said, “Okay, that was for me, but what about the bread for the orphans?” Amazing. She was amazing. To have that patience and love.. If it happened to me I don’t know what I’d do. Being spit on is not only disgusting but also infuriating. I hope that I can become as kind. ❤️
"I hope that I can become as kind", well said, I too hope and pray for such wonderful patience. Getting older, I noticed my own anger wells up quicker than it used to. Please, Dear Lord, I pray for an increase in my patience and to quell my anger.
I hope you look into how awful she really was. I don’t get why people ignore all the awful stuff she has done to other people.
I've learned to thank the wicked when they abuse me for obeying Christ. After all, they inadvertently bless me thereby. If they get angered by that, that's their own fault.
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*"A dung heap can't get into Heaven even if it is buried under a mile of snow. God cannot lie; He cannot declare righteous those who are not actually righteous. You must be washed and transformed by Christ so that you are actually righteous."*
You are declared righteous by God when you trust Him.
You are declared righteous by imputed righteousness, you are declared righteous if you wear Christ's robe of righteousness, you are declared righteous by God because Christ was righteous and you trust Christ.
If by any stretch you think your own self righteousness weights in the balance for your salvation, then you are trusting yourself for your salvation, and you are declaring Christ's blood insufficient : making you an unsaved unbeliever.
1) when you get born again (by faith in Christ's work), The sins on our account are washed away by the blood of Christ and your spirit is renewed and cannot sin anymore.
*1 john 3;9* _"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."_
But your corrupted flesh makes you sin still
*Romans 7;14-25* _"14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."_
2) At Christ's second coming occurs the first resurrection of the saints (saved people). At this moment we'll be given incorruptible bodies, and be caught in the skies, before 7th seal is opened and God pour his wrath on the world.
-> with a sinless spirit and an incorruptible body, we won't sin anymore.
*1 cor 15;50-53* _"50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."_
3) Christ's judgment over the church (1 cor 3 that catholics tries to twist to justify purgatory) occurs *after* we get sinless.
-> there is no more sin _'to be purged'_ then.
@@nicolas9533 Declared righteous or made righteous? It is written, "You will not acquit the guilty," and "God is not a man, that He should lie." He cannot declare righteous those who are not actually righteous; rather, "If any man is in Christ, he is a new creature." God's grace transforms sinners into saints. Christ takes away the sins of world, rather than papering over them.
This is the first time purgatory has been explained through the message Dr. Pitre dwells on at length. I never looked at it that way before. May God continue to shed His light upon you, Dr. Pitre. And thank you for explaining what is usually a tough topic to deal with.
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The Carpenter Jesus never mentioned purgatory. The thief next to Jesus was a prime candidate for purgatory but Jesus assured him of Paradise with Him Luke 23:34-44. Limbo was an other imaginary place which closed down in 1959. We can’t buy the gift of god with money Acts 8:20. By one sacrifice we have been perfected forever Hebrews 10:14.Or the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1:9. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins Hebrews 9:22. Call on Jesus right now and Paradise and eternal life John 3:16
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 If you mean literally the word Purgatory is not mentioned in the Bible, then by that token we cannot believe in the Trinity, because that's not mentioned in the Bible. The Bible itself does not say that unless something is in the book, you don't have to believe it. Purgatory, however, is inferred in the Bible. No Catholic believes they can buy God's grace with money. But, to make an offering of some sort, you would need money. But, God sees our heart and simply making offerings is not going to move Him. The Bible says, a contrite heart O Lord you will not spurn.
@@the-Carpenter Thanks for your response. Yes you’re right there is not one mention of purgatory in God’s word from Genesis to Revelation..The blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9 Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Hebrews 9:22.
By one sacrifice we have been perfected forever Hebrews 10:14..Jesus said to the thief on Calvary Assuredly this day you you will be with me in Paradise Luke 23:34-44. Yes purgatory was introduced into the Roman Catholic Church by Pope Gregory the great in 590ad but it wasn’t until pope Sixtus 4th before it began to make money in 1446 ad .We still pay a lot of money through Mass cards But saint Peter said that we cannot buy the gift of God by money. Freely we have received and freely we give. Limbo was also a man made place Call on the Lord Jesus and have eternal life John 3:16. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all unrighteousness. Jesus is the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world John 1:29 (2000 years ago on Calvary). Baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance in the Lord Jesus Christ
@@johnfrancisbien8345 Thanks for your response. Yes I gave scriptures to match any statement I made. I just declared the facts of scriptures. Jesus never mentioned purgatory in any of his talks . Purgatory is making a mock of Jesus finished work on Calvary. You obviously have found another way to heaven But we know that Jesus is the only way to the Father. Our prayer should be Mary’s prayer. My soul magnifies the Lord Jesus and My spirit rejoices in God my savior Luke 1:46-48 Who is Mary’s savior? Yes you’re right Jesus is the savior of the entire world or the lamb of god who took away the sins of the entire world. Have you received your free forgiveness and salvation yet? Is the Lord Jesus your savior or have you found another way John 14:6. Call on Jesus right now and have eternal life with the Lord Jesus. You can’t buy the gift of God with money Acts 8:20.
Call on the Lord Jesus right now and have Paradise with Jesus forevermore
Whoever reading this, God knows what you are facing through, he heard your cry, He is going to deliver you. Just trust in him. Amen. 💞
Hi, may I ask the verses that describe the 3rd and 4th servant? Oh, I found it in Luke 12. Thanks
I'd like to think we saw a living parable of Purgatory actually unfold in the OT.
The Jews walking through the desert are not allowed to enter the promise land (heaven) until the sinful generation that came from egypt died out (is purged). Some of them were taken into hell in the process (Numbers 26:10). Only 2 of out of the first generation out of Egypt (Joshua and Caleb) made it to the promise land and the rest were never allowed in. So we see the 2 (Joshua and Caleb) that make it and they see the promise land, those that are not allowed (the first out of egypt) in but still are saved through the covenant and then those who are cast into hell for their rebellion against the established order of God. It could be a stretch on my part, but the Bible is so much more profound than people realize. To take the Bible at face value is absurd! It's so rich in deep meaning that skimming only the surface would be ridiculous.
Foxxitude I agree with you there ,the bible is rich in references to a place like purgatory, but Jesus doesn't mention it specifically because some wouldn't live their lives naturally, and would worry themselves sick, and would not be themselves. They would be fake. They would be staying up all night to catch the "thief in the night".
@@Mar-wt3di I am glad that you can read the Lord Jesus' mind, what He did and what He did not do. Are you a prophet, maybe even a messiah? Jesus Christ is God in flesh. Please, for your own sake, do not accuse God of being deceitful.
@@mirr1427 Well I'll put it another way, He doesn't tell us when we will die does he, why? because if you knew the hour you would be acting up and being a fake saint just because you knew the day in advance and you wouldn't live the life you would have done without knowing. He wants us to come as we are, striving to do our best. Some are saints sooner than others, this is where Purgatory comes in, to purify us either by excepting hardships thrown at us, and love for our God and our fellow man here on earth ,or if we neglected these things later on in a state of purgatory.
@@Mar-wt3di In that respect it makes no difference if we know or do not know the exact day of our expiration. We all know that our time is short in this world, be it even 100 years. There are thousands upon thousands of people expiring every day because of sickness or old age. In general, no body is acting up knowing that there only few years or even few weeks left to live, though there might be some extreme cases in that regard.
Lord Jesus did not tell when He is coming back to take His bride, the church with Him to the Fathers house before the end times, because even He did not know the day Himself but only the Father knows it. It has nothing to do with the so called ‘purgatory’, man’s invention.
This is my riposte to the lecture in the video, and I am pasting it here for you to reed:
There is no ‘purgatory’; death and upon resurrection judgment. Purgatory was invented by the Talmudic Jews and then adopted by the Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Florence in 1438-1445. My question is: what happened with the souls before the Council of Florence took place? The proverb in Luke that you are discussing only illustrates severity of punishment for certain types of behavior and of course reward for obedience. Let’s delve into the subject of sin: the three types of misconduct depicted in Luke are three types of sinful behavior, you cannot dispute that. Sins can only be washed off with the blood of Lord Jesus Christ, He died on cross for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:2 (KJV) "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
When you are on the other side, it is already too late to be cleansed. Furthermore, there are no other determinants to quench the guilt for the sins but the blood of Christ. Furthermore, sins can be pardoned only when confessed and asked God for forgiveness in the name of Lord Jesus Christ (not a priest, priests cannot forgive sins).
Mark 2:5-7 ...who can forgive sins but God only?”
1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
Romans @-24 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:”
Isaiah @ “I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.”
Isaiah @ “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” (only God is the One that can save us from sins, not a priest)
Romans @ “23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
1Timothy 2:5-6 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”
After people die, the souls are waiting to be resurrected.
Eccles. 9:5-6 “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in anything that is done under the sun.” (the dead are waiting in their graves to be resurrected and judged, the souls sleep)
1 Thess. @-18 “13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleepin Jesus will God bring with him.15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
John @-29 “28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
Sir, with all the respect, yourself, you are playing with the fire, an eternal fire by deceiving people and leading them to everlasting condemnation.
Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV) “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Once again, the gospel is: Lord Jesus Christ suffered, and died on the cross for the sins of the world, and was resurrected on the third day according to the Scripture. He paid fully for our sins and only by His blood we can be cleansed. And not in a man’s made-up purgatory by some other imaginary means. Man (I am referring to preacher), whoever you are, and whatever your title is, when you will stand in front of the White Throne facing the Almighty Judge, you will have a huge burden upon your shoulders for deceiving thousands, upon thousands ignorant people who rely on your word instead of turning to the word of God, and seeking the truth in the Bible.
2Tim. @“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”
2Peter @ “For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
Hosea 4:6“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”
There is no excuse for ignorance, the Bible is accessible for all. Amen.
@@mirr1427 I know nobody is acting up , that was just an example of what might happen if we knew the date of our death. You seem to dodge the very words of Jesus in the many parables he told to teach us what the kingdom of Heaven is like. And you are right about being washed by the blood of Jesus saving us from hell The foundation in the following is an example. 1Cor 3.10-15 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid the foundation , and someone else is building on it. Each builder must choose with CARE how to build on it. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one that has been laid, that foundation is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation, with gold silver precious stones wood hay straw, the WORK of each builder will become visible, for the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with FIRE, and the fire will test what sort of WORK each has done. IF what has been built on the foundation survives, the builder will receive a reward, IF the work is burned up, the builder will suffer loss, the builder will be SAVED, but only through fire. Now don't you think that all the loss and suffering will be gone and settled before entering into Heaven ? Remember there is no suffering in Heaven right ?
As a Catholic I struggled with the idea of purgotary all my life. But this teaching is such an eye opener. Never heard something like this ever and my goodness I am just in awe of what you have just taught.Thank you so much.Can wait to meditate on it.
Read the context of every scripture given as proof. You will find a different meaning . Dr P has good teaching ability but that does not mean he is correct. You need to read the scriptures to prove that there is heaven and hell and some in between place. You will find hell and you will find heaven .
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
@@bobloblawb2593 reading Scripture atomistically and not holistically will do exactly as you say.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.
@@johncastillon3454 There is no "judgement" for those that are saved. Scripture tells us that we have the righteousness of Christ if we have believed in Him.
Man, I was so convinced before that it didn't exist but when this was now revealed to me, defintely made me rethink about it. There is so much to learn and seems like I just seen only the tip. Thank you for sharing this.
And it still does not exist. This explanation is misusing parables to make non-related conclusions. Purgatory is being read in the parables that does not even come near to the nature and purpose of what the Church decided to call purgatory.
@@Nolongeraslave be careful with that kind of mindset, my friend. Just because we couldn't prove it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I learned this lesson the hard way and just want to share it with you out of love and compassion for being in the same state as you before.
@@lelouchvibritannia2327
Which lesson did you learn? Did you visit purgatory?
@@Nolongeraslave a lesson about not jumping into conclusion without being certain. I didn't but it was someone so dear to me who already passed away and 2 other people who I personally know.
@@lelouchvibritannia2327 So you conviction came from a relative and other people who experienced purgatory fires testimonies? Where they "cleansed" afterwards?
I have subscribed, liked, and shared my friend! Outstanding, humble, and with critical analysis. Thank you! God bless you!
Think of purgatory this way:
A mischievous kid throws a rock at a car window belonging to his neighbor. The neighbor goes into rage mode demanding monetary payment for the damage incurred.
The kid's parents pay the damage to avoid further trouble and resolve the matter (This is a picture of eternal debt being paid. Obviously the kid is incapable of paying for the damage done to his neighbor's car)
However, the kid is brought home and is caned by his parents for his misbehavior. This is a picture of the temporal consequences that is paid off. The kid is not kicked out and disowned as he is still their child, so similarly us believers are still saved (Heaven-bound) - sons and daughters of God. Yet the kid is caned temporarily... why? Because he is to be purged from his wrongdoing, to become better, and to be restored to right relationship with his parents and neighbour.
Nothing unclean shall enter heaven.
If we still have vices and impurities attached to our souls as we die in a state of Grace, it is humility that strives us to be 'washed and purified' first before seeing our Creator.
@@noeltan1455 our souls demand purgatory don't they?
As said by C.S. Lewis
@@noeltan1455 1 Cor 6:11 read it and tell us all how Christs death on the cross allows you to have sins that He did not pay for ?
Purged from wrong doing here not after death . No contextual scripture back up ,to a belief in purgatory!!
Yes Jesus died once and for all to take away the sins of the world, and to rebuild the bridge reconnecting Man and God. Nothing more, nothing less. That we do not deny or debate against. The blood of Christ covers our original sin - saving grace conferred onto us via baptism in water and spirit (as well as confirmation - sealing with the Holy Spirit).
But because we still have original sin, we still have sinful inclinations. As long as we're in this world, we'll be exposed to temptations and near occasions of sin. Hence, we all fall down, struggle and make mistakes. Let's be honest, can we confidently say that at the moment of our deaths we are 100% unblemished? Several of us indeed yes, but not every disciple (one who is in a state of grace and friendship with Christ)
Salvation is ongoing - I was saved yesterday, currently being saved and express a confident hope of being saved in the future. We teach an ongoing sanctification and inner renewal of the righteousness conferred by Christ to us. Purgatory simply serves to assist some of us with achieving that objective. It's gonna hurt but no pressure, no diamonds.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Mary’s apparition in Garabandal mentions purgatory when one of the seers asked Mary about two girls that died in the village. Mary answered saying that the youngest girl is in heaven and the older girl is in purgatory.
That is scary hearing someone is in purgatory but if I heard someone in my village is in hell, I would faint.
She said the same to the children of Fatima.
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Mary’s apparition in Garabandal , Fatima, and Guadalupe all contain false beliefs that puts Mary where she was never to be. The apparitions tend to put Mary in as healer, savior, and coredemptrix with Jesus and that is in direct conflict with John 14:6 and sound biblical teaching.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Amen. More Roman Catholic church lies.
So I recently got into a debate with some family members regarding this passage. One SDA two nondenominational. When reading this parable, they seem to think that there are only three slaves that are being talked about. One that goes to heaven, one that goes to the unfaithful, then the third is the one who did not know (they claim that that one goes to hell but just receives a light punishment). The third servant thats talked about in the video is the one they combine with the second. So my family claimed that the one who went to the unfaithful just received a severe beating. I couldmn’t get them to see that there are four being talked about. Any help or guidance
That's why we need and Jesus left us a visible authoritative earthly church to guide us.
One question: From Luke 12:47-48 where can i read that these are temporary beatings and not permanent?
This was so fascinating. I never noticed there were four different outcomes before. And your explanation lights up the Scripture so clearly.
@@royruser5074 You performed the functions but you never really understood Catholicism. You only have an artificial understanding. Most people who say I was raised Catholic have little or no understanding at all of the WHY of what they were doing or the history behind it which is why they are led away easily by Judas.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker Catholicism is purely pagan. Every religious ritual they performed not supported by Bible. Please tell me single line from the Bible that support it
@@modestsohtun9525 The Bible was put together by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome in 382. It is a purely Catholic document and can only be infallibly interpreted by the Catholic Church. I suggest you compile your own bible.
@@modestsohtun9525 You worship a book. We worship God. Do you think the Bible fell down from Heaven? The Bible is a Catholic document, first put together in 382 by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome. You are quoting from a Catholic book. Congratulations you have made the first towards becoming Catholic.
@@modestsohtun9525 Only the devil calls what is Holy, pagan, and nothing that a protestant believes is supported by the Bible. If you are so anti Catholic you should reject the Bible, because it was the Catholic Church that put it together, and declared the scriptures inspired by God in the first place.
Purgatory
Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven."
2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.".
Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing.
Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
(NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.)
Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts.
Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt.
Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. "
Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.
1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire."
1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison:
(NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
The visionary from Kibeho Rwanda was shown by our Lady one peaceful place where people were singing, one place where people were in pain and another one where people were in pain, but not as the first one.
The visionary asked our Lady if she could see people who were singing and she told her she couldn't see them as longer as she was still on earth.
I Love the encouragement of "Saints go in groups", "find those that bring out the best in us" Keep in mind that The Best will come with our focus on Christ! St Luke and St Paul pray for us as we Thank you and learn from your lives given to Christ 😇🙏
This is a beautiful explanation Dan Petrie. Although I am a cradle Catholic and believed inspiratory, didn't know the ref. in the gospels.
It's my first experience of teaching about purgatory excellent teaching
There is no such thing as purgatory. If there was such a place/idea, it would clearly be in the scriptures.
@@John3_16_Then why did the 1st Christians, who wrote the scripture and canonized it, believe in purgatory?
@@MasterKeyMagic cite your source. Yes, we all know you won’t be able to.
@@John3_16_ ruclips.net/video/fA9AzI7LiSY/видео.html
that didn't age well💀
Another fine example of how the divine truth is implicitly revealed in Scripture.
Alex Lielbardis What does the bodily assumption have to do with the gospel? The gospel is all about Jesus.
@@jarrahe the Assumption of Mary never happened . You will find the first reference to the assumption of Mary around 280-320 AD and it was supposed to be witnessed by all of Jerusalem and yet the new testament writers did not record such an important event?? In the new testament you have 20 verses that reference Mary by name and not one of those verses show Mary to be anything more than the mother of Jesus her firstborn and her other sons and daughters. No one I know is downplaying Mary , she is the mother of Jesus who happens to be the savior of the entire world.
@@jarrahe Always good to use the phrase " can be seen very clearly from the scriptures alone, " and then not provide any evidence whatsoever.Matthew and Mark both record the children of Mary . Perpetual virgin? When you have a hymen and it is broken during childbirth and you then have sex with your husband and have other children you tend to be NOT a virgin anymore. Mary was born as a sinner just like everyone else. She was not pure and she was born under the law that we are born under.
she was a perpetual virgin who had no children besides Jesus
There is no verse in scripture to have any basis for believing this . You find this teaching in the Catholic church not in the bible.
@@jarrahe I have a glass of water , it is full to the brim to the point of overflowing . You are telling me that
1. Mary was full of the Holy Spirit and there was no possible way that she would be a sinful person.
2.Whereas Jesus was born without sin it follows that His mother must be without sin and that would mean that Mary's mother would be without sin as well. How far back must you go, with being born without sin, to not compromise the birth of Jesus?
My glass of water being as full as possible is still a glass , and the fact it is full to the point of spilling does not make it not a glass anymore. Romans 3:23 tells me that God used Mary just as He uses others to perform His works. Show me in scriptures where Mary is alluded to in being without sin? Hints in the old or new testament ? Where did the early church fathers get their inspiration to call Mary the immaculate conception? Did the early church fathers believe the world to be the center of the universe?
Mary is the mother of Christians (John 19:27)
Who did Jesus give His mother to?
That's right He gave His mother to John the disciple, not the world . That is a great interpretation that somehow Mary is the mother of us all but the entire new testament is about the work of Jesus and the new testament writers devote 20 verses referencing Mary without any of those verses stating anything more than she was the mother of Jesus her firstborn.
@Michel Martinez You are correct there is no passage that indicates bible alone .
2 Tim 3:15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
This of course relates to the old testament which is what Peter had to work with when he got up to preach at Pentecost.
Jesus founded a church ,not a book is also correct . Jesus wrote the scriptures and 2 Timothy points out what those scriptures are for. The church has not remained faithful to the scriptures over time and has brought in doctrines that are false and misleading to the common person. The church encompasses the Catholic church and the protestant church as a group as you will not find anywhere in all of scripture any name attached to the believers to say they are better or more spiritual than the other.
So Jesus founded the church with teaching authority ,and can you point out what church that is ? You are taught that it is the Catholic church and protestants are taught it is the protestant church, so just where does one find the truth ?
Maybe that good ole guy named Paul telling Timothy what the scriptures are for, could be an indication of what the church should be believing and teaching ,without adding to it.
Wow, you hit the nail in this teaching. So very enlighthening to us all. Thankyou.
Yep he hit the nail of lies deeper into your soul, sad indeed
Believe in God's word... not man's.
I wish this was the whole video instead of a clip. I think you’re right Jesus is talking about purgatory here. Being Catholic Christians we grow up understanding that purgatory exists. The classic go to Bible verse is 1 Corr 3:15, “he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.” but read the Chapter for context. Most of us have some attachment to sin so our souls must be cleansed, temporal punishment, Lk 12:59, 1 Pet 1:7, Mt 5:25-26 before we can enter into heaven. Rev 21:27. It’s like I can be forgiven for speeding but I have to do the time or pay the fine. I always wondered about all of Luke 12 not just the verses you talk about here because of the last sentence Jesus says, verse 59 “I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper” which seems to fit the concept of purgatory well. Great video Dr. Petrie.
Absolutely amazing. I am catholic, but I never knew if I should believe in Purgatory or not, but now after watching your video it all makes absolute sense! Thank you much for your wisdom.🙏🏻
Why watching a video? You are supposed to reference the Gospel and the Apostolic doctrine JESUS GAVE His apostles. Not a man made catechism and NOT A VIDEO
LORD please 🤦
@trishaperry where do you think Jesus went while His body was laying the tomb before He rose?
@@bobtosi9346 The Bible says He went to hell. He went and got those that were faithful to the Father.
@bencalvert yes your correct. My question to her was in response to her challenge toThe Catholic faith.
What I know when Jesus went to hell is to pick up the souls ho died before he died to bring them to heaven . I am to understand that Jesus have to open heaven. Since Adam never commuted the sin after eating the fruit of the forbidden tree n paradise was closed . So not even the the profets like Moses n othors were at the bosom of Abraham n waited for heaven . Is that correct for my grand children ask question re Jesus went to hell on the 3rd day pls. Tell me if I was wrong . So I will not tell that to any person again. Thank u very much. Mrs. c. Godoy
Hi Dr Pitre...i hv been watching some of your teaching and got very impressed to know more abt a deeper meaning. I need to ask you abt what is the place that GOD stated to Moses in Deuteronomy 32:50 ? "You will die and be gathered to your people just as your brother Aaron..."? As Moses had trespassed against GOD. Is that also Purgatory ? Thank you so much 🤗
@Danny Ho
You stated: "Hi Dr Pitre...i hv been watching some of your teaching and got very impressed to know more abt a deeper meaning. I need to ask you abt what is the place that GOD stated to Moses in Deuteronomy @ ? "You will die and be gathered to your people just as your brother Aaron..."? As Moses had trespassed against GOD. Is that also Purgatory ? Thank you so much 🤗"
I would recommend the following article,
"Sorting out Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, the Abode of the Just, and Hell
What happened to Christ after He died?" (Catholic Bridge), because it has historical background as well as the Scriptures::
www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/sheol-hell-hades.php
And this one as well:
Did Sheol Become Gehenna After the Resurrection? (Catholic Answers):
www.catholic.com/qa/did-sheol-become-gehenna-after-the-resurrection
And this:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC):
PART ONE - THE PROFESSION OF FAITH - SECTION TWO -
THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH - CHAPTER TWO -
I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD - ARTICLE 5 - "HE DESCENDED INTO HELL. ON THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE AGAIN":
www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p122a5p1.htm
I think is Sheol. The place that Jesus visited after he died on the cross before He resurrected on the third day. In the Sheol were all the prophets and God's followers waiting for Jesus to allow them to get into paradise with His resurrection because Jesus paid the price for salvation.
I haven’t read much regarding the concept of another plane that we’d call Purgatory according to the descriptions within the Scripture, but I would say two things as a non-Catholic Christian myself- 1. Purgatory can be misunderstood by Christians as being necessary for all believers, which by this explanation within this video is clearly not the case, but many use this point to claim it violates the ultimate sacrificial element of Christ. 2. Non-Catholics may prefer to disregard purgatory because it can be used as a base justification for continuing in sin since purgatory is not a permanent residence, and merely a transitory one which a person could justify themselves as still passing through and entering the kingdom of heaven, if this makes sense. It parallels the reasons why some don’t believe in rapture, because they believe it unfairly excludes them from the kind of suffering that Jesus Christ had undergone on the cross for our very own sins. The fear again being- if there is no rapture, then will those who believed in rapture lose their faith at this moment? It plays off the element of doubt that plagues both positions. That being that doubt of the event taking place is justification enough to assume it would be better to presume it does not exist at all and it would be better to adopt the worse possible case scenario. Which in that case would simply force believers to adhere even more closely to faith and refrain from sin even more so.
so i guess the sins of the thief on the cross werent so bad as to warrant purgatory. after all, Jesus told him "TODAY you will be with me in PARADISE". and paul was apparently unaware of this doctrine as well, he stated "to be absent rom the body is to be present with the lord" when referring to believers. neither Jesus nor Paul spoke about any kind of holding period for cleansing of sins, the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross was enough, hence Him saying "it is finished!"
Maybe Jesus credited the thief's crucifixion on the cross to his purification.
@@bridgefinno. He just told him he will be in paradise .... Stop assuming and adding what is not there
@@TriciaPerry-ef7bi
OK, then please explain for us how the thief was purified since according to Rev 21: 27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
What Brilliance! It enlightens me so much about the existence of Purgatory!
Doesn’t exist
@@retard6477Then why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started.
If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
@@retard6477 exactly it's from the pit of Hell it's not in the Holy scriptures Jesus washes away our sins completely with his precious blood the moment we put our faith in him and his finished work on the cross He makes us a new creation and gives us a new❤😊 it's that simple
Purgatory is unbiblical
You guys have no idea how hard i (Catholic) had tried to convince people that purgatory exist. Seeing and hearing this increase my intelligence on arguing other religion.
It doesn't. FALSE Roman Catholic LIES
@trishaperry prove your point or retrac your comment
@@bobtosi9346 Jesus paid for my sins, do I don't have to pay for my sins.
@@TriciaRP Protestantism is a heresy :)
@@bobtosi9346 Can you tell me where i find proof of purgatory? Thank you
Doc I am a catechist and I have been explaining purgatory using this but it is only now that I understood it. Usually uses 2Macc and the refining fire. Thank you so much brother
I do want to ask tho, if our deeds were the basis of salvation then why did Christ have to die? (This is the very question paul had answered somewhere in romans)
Also if christians were punished on the day of Christs return would they even be considered to be saved in the first place? I dont exactly remember where but there is a passage that talks about a shepherd separating goats and sheep, the goats I think were outcasted and the sheeps were accepted by the shepherd. This separation is absolute, and never once did it mention that there were imperfect sheep that had to be separated from the perfect ones
I delight at your ability to give more expansive views and peeling back layers of OT references and adding illumination to the things we can know about Jesus. The stories and parables appealed to me as a boy and still do. Your concision is admirable. I think many of us readers would agree.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
Did I ever thank you for the time you take in earth in your teachings to save me time in purgatory? Well Thank You.
No time saved as purgatory is a man made fabricated lie. No scriptural basis for the doctrine started in the 12th century.
Why do you assume that Jesus isn't enough?
For those interested, also look up LUKE 12:57-59 for more on Jesus' teaching, using a parable, to point towards purgatory.
It doesn't. They are trying to MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT. JUST WHAT THE Devil and Satan want. It is deception. Did God and Jesus the Apostles SAY PURGATORY?????
NO. WHY ARE you all believing what was NOT SPOKEN OF BY THE gospel in the NT
None of it. NONE.
YOU can't ASSUME
CATHOLISM Is based on Assumptions. Falsified stories to justify their RELIGION. LIES
Several other verses imply it as well, such as the ones that state that we ought to pray for the dead, not all sins are deadly, the ones put in a "prison" not to be let out until the last penny is paid, etc.
Nah “keys” are a type of technology that’s very useful in controlling access. So of course assigning keys to someone to make a point was clear and good way of interpreting things. Keys were also mentioned in other verses to paint a clear picture. Like the keys of the bottomless pit . Isiah and Matthew mentioning of keys are independent of each other. So it can’t be used to build a case for this purgatory in this case.
The wisdom and works of God are so vast that we will never understand them all. I am a protestant but during prayer I have seen deceased friends in many strange areas like caverns, abyss;, underground, but always wanting water. I knew they were not in heaven but not in a burinng hell either. Was that purgatory? I don't know.
Heb 9:27 refutes purgatory, and Luke 16:26 refutes movement of the soul in hell to anywhere else. So what you envision is not a heavenly reward for the deceased.
I think so, I've heard people having dreams like this
Thank you for such a beautiful explanation about this doctrine of purgatory basing it in the Gospel.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
Geovanny Fajardo
There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory:
Luke 12:35-47
35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”
41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?”
42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in
Luke 12:1-2:
1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known.
Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57.
Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36.
Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ.
There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you.
God bless you all.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 my good friend has the holy spirit revealed all this to you and when and who are your witnesses?.
@@generalnwankwo8689 Read the scriptures in context with every verse given to you as proof of purgatory and you will see for yourself that purgatory denies the finished work of Christ on the cross, who died for all of our sins and when we do sin Jesus is there for us, keeping His righteousness as a shield over us. 1 John 2:1,2 Everything we do as believers is through faith , and any works we do in faith does not get us any closer to God .
roman Catholic church has the CCC
CCC 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:
reference given 1 Cor 3:15
Context starts in verse 11 !
read what it says about purgatory and look at the verse presented , Now read the context and you see that
sin is not in question at all ,
repentance of sin is not in question at all, purification from sin is not in question at all, stain of sin is not in question at all.
No one is punished , no one is tortured , no one is barred from heaven, no one suffers pain they do suffer loss of what they could have had .
No one is burnt
so what is burnt?
1031 goes hand in hand with 1032 prayers for the dead and the quote from Maccabee's 12: is again ripped from context .
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.
Well does Matthew 12:31,32 actually say that sin will be forgiven in the age to come?
31:And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32:Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Do you see the emphasis on the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and not on forgiveness of sins?
but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
That means no forgiveness now or ever and it is not talking about sins , it is talking about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit!
So READ the CONTEXT and prove to yourself that what you believe is correct.
has the holy spirit revealed all this to you ?
Paul tells Timothy that EVERYTHING he needs to be THOROUGHLY equipped is found in the scriptures. As there is no contradiction between the old testament and the new testament we can look to God's word with confidence for what God wants us to know.
The Holy Spirit reveals God's word to us as we read it.
However we need to read it in context not in cherry picking season.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 No just answer the simple question, did the holy spirit revealed this to you.
When I read this the first time ir dawned on me that there does exist some form of punishment (other than Hell) for those who did not fully live their lives as they ought to have done. Thanks.
satan has convinced you jesus sacrifice wasnt enough.
All these catholics with their works based salvation are going to hell. I pray they accept the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. Oh and purgatory is not in the bible. But not calling a man father is and a pastor should be the married man of one wife have rule over his household well. Also thou shalt not make any graven images is also in the bible. Salvation is by grace alone not of works lest any man should boast. Poor twisted Catholics.
Protestant here. This is the best argument for purgatory I've ever heard. Definitely one I'll have to think through.
I will say (and this is said in the video) that this clearly doesn't explicitly teach purgatory, but can be inferred from it and definitely lays a foundation that could get you to something like the doctrine of Purgatory
God gave us a tripod to remain faithful to Him. Scriptures, Tradition and Magisterium. Scriptures alone doesn't stand on itself, for many reasons: 1 - It's not in the Bible; 2 - The Bible reinforces oral tradition and Church's authority; 3 - Historically not plausible, as Paul preached Jesus without a single Gospel written. Or should jews ask him: where is that in the Scriptures? 4 - The free exam of Scriptures only led to more confusion. 5 - Sola Scriptura has been weaponized against the Catholic Church, as many, if not all denominations have other source of doctrine like the writings of Ellen White, the book of Concord, the book of Mormon, Westminster catechism, etc.
6 - The Bible is a Catholic book; 7 - Satan and false profets use Scriptures to deceive 8 - You should not rely on your own judgment. Check Proverbs 3, 5-6 and 2 Tim 4, 3-4.
@@marcosdisiervi6481 is selling indulgences part of tradition?
Indulgences were abused by some priest in the 16th c. The church put a stop to that. Still, the gates of hell will never prevail against the church. Napoleon once told a Catholic priest ' I could destroy the Catholic Church if I wanted to'. The priest was said to have smiled and replied ' you'll never succeed. Priests have been trying to destroy it for (then) 1800 years and haven't succeeded'. 😉
This is a wonderful insight into the outcome of mortal sin and venial sin...with regards to purgatory it's a great elaboration the final end of the believer as taught by Christ himself...thanks Dr.Pitre.
Sin is sin. The wages of sin is death (see book of Romans). Note no distinction between mortal and venial, which is a Catholic construct.
@@raywilson353 The Catholic teaches so because this is what the Sacred scriptures teach...not. a personal view..
@@robertwakibiru9930 I would be interested in knowing what those sacred scriptures are that you refer to.
@@robertwakibiru9930you haven't answered the question....
what sacred scriptures?
The ideation of purgatory in the Bible can't get any clearer than that. Thank you, Brent, and may you continually be blessed by the gifts of the Holy Spirit for your works of evangelization. And may God protect and bless you and your loved ones more.🙏
THERE IS NO PURGATORY
@@markjapan4062 pergatory is the catholic church biggest money maker. they will defend it to the death.
@@peterzinya407 What is Joel Osteen's biggest money maker?
It could get a whole lot clearer if it was real
@@markjapan4062Then why did all the Church fathers say there is? They canonized the Bible
I like the way this teacher elucidates and expounds on the four types of Christians in Luke 12.
Since we've all sinned, we'll all spend time in purgatory. What does this say about the finished work of Christ on the cross?
That was wonderful. I've been perplexed as to what happens to those who never heard of the name Jesus before through no fault of their own. Thank you!
Everyone does Revelation tells you that all will hear the good news.
They go to hell for their sins . That’s why we try to reach the lost all over the earth to spread the good news
@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 what? It states in the Bible they will be judged by the written law in their hearts. "Gentiles who do not have the law keep it as by instinct, these men although without the law serve as law for themselves. They show that the demands of the law are written in their hearts. Their conscience bears witness together with that law, and their thoughts will accuse or defend them on the day when in accordance with the gospel I preach God will pass judgment on the secrets of men through Jesus Christ." Theres other areas stating men cannot be judged according to what they do not know or do not have reference to. Your statement is sketchy
@@theparadigmshift74 i believe that the grace of God will appear to all men titus 2:11 and that there are people with good morals following God’s moral ways of life but they are still sinners and can still reject him even though living moral lives. Anything good that they do comes from the creator anyways and reject him means that they will be separated from him but when judged they will probably suffer a few blows since they by nature didn’t harm people.
@@theparadigmshift74 The context is that "good men" who keep the law by instinct will have thoughts that either accuse or defend them, when they hear the gospel that Paul preached. The verse isn't saying that "good men" who don't believe in Jesus, yet keep the law by instinct will inherit eternal life. Your statement is sketchy as well.
Ask an Rabbi today. They say hell an adjustment to heaven. And they say the Yiddish prayer for the souls for this purification to heaven. This was always in the Jewish word of God. Jesus and the apostles were Jewish and believed in purgatory. It doesn’t need to be spelled out in the New Testament.
Yes, I've heard the Jews have always believed in a purgation after this life.
I'm a Christian (not catholic). But that was pretty good. I appreciate your insight.
Thank you......... CATHOLISM ISN'T Christian. They wish. That is the biggest baloney Satan invented.
You have to rightly divide the word of truth, can’t just pick and choose which parts of scripture you choose, but also the parts of scripture that also back up and support that same passage of scripture as well ❤
You are soooo incredible sir! I highly admire your knowledge and insight into scripture. One question, are you writing any new books? I already have all your books in my bookshelf.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
@@gffajardo Oh yes! let me believe this random guy on RUclips over Brant Pitre. Give me a break.
@@BornAgainCatholic You are missing my point. Is not enough to listen to others, we should read scripture and meditate on our own, with the help of the Holy Spirit who reveals all truth. We are all humans and have our flaws. Be wise and consider different points of view. I commented here not for my own good or to glorify myself. I commented because I care about you and all others like you seek the truth. God bless you.
@@gffajardo No, you're missing the point. You're no one and Brant Pitre is a very respected scholar by Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox. You think you I'm going to listen to you over him? That's crazy. Especially, since you can't even get the Greek right between the Greek words "you" in the singular and "you" in the plural.
@@BornAgainCatholic You are right I'm nobody. My Lord Jesus the Christ is everything to me. I trust Him alone. He must increase, but I must decrease.
Wow! I must be so sleepy that night when I was watching this.
But now, I want to thank you Dr. Pitre for sharing the very good verses from the book of Luke to make me understand our doctrine of Purgatory.
Yep you must have been tired to be able to thank him for spreading lies
@@vincenzofranz Yea just like James White was caught spreading lies
@@vincenzofranz it's the truth. Not lies. It's just that you don't want to know or understand. If you don't believe it, then it's your problem. So keep your mouth shut.
@@vincenzofranzThen why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started.
If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
@@MasterKeyMagic if you want to add and/or subtract to God’s word and follow a teaching of purgatory that is not even close to be found in scriptures you are entitled to it, go ahead. You are just insulting Jesus by telling him that what he has done on the cross for you is not enough, a purgatory is needed even though he made it CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT HIS BLOOD PURIFIES YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Glad and happy About this Catholic page .
Amen to my apostolic Faith in my saints in the name Jesus
I am once again in awe of this context, Dr. Pitre! Thank you so much! Viva Cristo Rey!
I just want to say thank you Dr. Brant for helping me through a very difficult time. I learn a lot about Holy Scripture from your videos and I am glad that I found your channel.
There is no such thing as purgatory.
@@John3_16_ humble yourself before God because without faith it's impossible to please God, Dr. Pitre has taught you about purgatory from the Bible, humble yourself.
@@John3_16_
1 Corinthians 3:13-15 Paul says
Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it,
because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is
If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
@@generalnwankwo8689 I don’t need a “Dr.” To teach me about something that isn’t in the Bible.
@@jamesreacts5353 ah… the only scripture Catholics prop up that says absolutely nothing about purgatory itself. Consider me unconvinced.
We must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ, that each should be recompensed for what he has done in the body, whether good or bad.
Ave Christus Rex this judgment seat is for rewards. We will rule and reign with Jesus. If you lead people to Jesus you will get rewards and if you give a cup of water for Jesus sake you get rewarded.. The great white throne judgment is total destruction as no one can stand before a Holy God and live that’s why we all need Jesus as our advocate or substitute.
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 The passages says not "reward" but "recompensed" or "dealt what is appropriate to the circumstances" The same principle of "reward" is the very same as "punishment." It is not a different principle for both, since Christ is the same who gratuitously allows reward, and accepts the offerings of restitution by His fallen brothers-both of which, without Christ, would be impossible and unjust, and missing the mark: it is the same gracious Christ who has been pleased to reward good that allows us to make up for the dishonor we cause God when we sin-dishonor which is not repaired by Christ Himself personally-He dealt with our forgiveness but leaves such restitution to God's honor up to the individual who will have himself saved. Forgiveness of sins and the restitution for that forgiven sin are distinct in Holy Scripture. David was forgiven his sin but it cost him something less than the sin-a payment owed to God's honor which he had stolen from by sin.
Purgatory is the name we gave to Christ's "Last penny" doctrine which I have described above.
God bless.
Ave Christus Rex The thief on the cross didn’t pay the last penny
@@Wgaither1 How do you know? He didn't go to heaven. Even Jesus wouldn't go there. He went to spirits in prison, i.e. Abraham's Bosom, or the realm of the dead.
Ave Christus Rex So paradise is purgatory. So you suffer for your sins in paradise?
These parables could relate to the hour of your own death. Make sure that you have things in order. 🔥✝️❤️
I doubt that Jesus would be so cryptic about a subject so important as a way-stop before heaven and hell. You have to read a lot into this ready to get Purgatory as the subject.
Thank you for this teaching. I appreciate that there are many spiritual places unaccounted for in Protestantism. As I deal with Protestants whose churches are too far removed in history from the historic churches (Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodoxies) I try to wake them to this point by reading a passage such as Peter where he tells of Christ preaching to the souls held in prison since the time of Noah. When I ask them where these people were held, since Christ went and preached the Gospel to them, they have no clue. Or I show them the Greek words Hades and Tartarus and ask why these are so different, but both translated as Hell. What frustrates me is that these Protestants more often than not think they know everything in the Bible, but they really are quite ignorant about the depth of knowledge in Scripture. I know, because I was like that. Now I hold what I know with an open palm so that as I read and study prayerfully and humbly the Sacred Scriptures of God I can allow Him to replace or add to my learning. That happens also from your short videos like this one. This is a valuable teaching. Thank you again.
You have a misunderstanding of scripture
@@geordiewishart1683 you exemplify exactly what I said in the comment
Those were the Watchers who left their first estate it's in the Book of Enoch they were Fallen Angels it's not the same as humans
@@caitlinsoliman1658 No. There were no "watchers" and Jesus never told us to "watch". I am a Biblical Greek scholar and i will tell you that it says stay awake, not watch. It is in contrast with sleeping, not with inattention. Paul makes exactly the same contrast, but your translators of the English Bible made exactly the same mistake because they did not consult the etymology. And you bunch of hooligans gang about acting like you know what you are exactly ignorant of. Jude calls this behavior that of false teachers. Repent of your ungodly behavior.
Agree. Grew up Baptist and never felt I knew Jesus or that those teaching about Him knew either. As an adult converted to Catholicism and that's where my knowledge of Jesus and the Bible took hold and started to form me to true Christianity 💗
Can you please make a video about melchizedek
About his identity and his significance in the Bible
Google it
@@patrickjordan4073 interesting, can you prove this with examples of facts
He does explain Melchizedek and the priesthood that sacrifices with bread and wine, to whom Jesus is a priest of
Just type Melchizedek Catholic productions
Thank you Dr. Pitre. In Matt. 5:21-26 Jesus teaches us about judgement and for example of the importance of reconciliation; be reconciled to your brother or sister who has something against you. And He says verse 25) "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26)Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny."
To me this "until you have paid the last penny" has always been a reference to Purgatory. I don't know if this is a right interpretation.
Don’t over complicate 😂it it means what it means. one of the Holy Spirit filled preachers I follow said God made it simple so even a child could understand it.
Me too
Thank you Dr Brant for this explanation. We always learn from you. Gid bless 👐👐🕯🕯
As a Catholic who grew up with Baltimore Catechism and nuns (a long, long time ago!), I never had it explained that purgatory is a Biblical teaching. I'm amazed. Every Catholic, child or adult, should know this in order to speak believably to our non-Catholic sisters and brothers.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
False doctrine. There is no purgatory and Jesus didn't teach on it as it doesn't exist
God bless you all Jesus Loves you and The Blessed Mother too
Thank you. I am a OCIA catechist and this was explanation was so well done.
I suppose I've missed it. Can you please tell me where in the bible it mention "Purgatory"?
CONFLICT BETWEEN TWO AUTHORITIES: THE POPE'S AND THE BIBLE'S
This is the main cause of differences in beliefs & practices between the Catholics and the Reformed Churches (Protestants).
The SCRIPTURES are the writings of God's prophets and of the writings of Christ's Apostles and Disciples. The BIBLE is the collection of scriptures, the WORDS OF GOD.
MISINTERPRETATION of the scriptures are also a notable cause of divergence in beliefs within the Christian community.
"SOLA SCRIPTURA" is a Protestant doctrine, which asserts that the scriptures alone are the sole authority on Christian theology and practice.
But where else can we get our correct instructions and guidance on Christian faith other than from the Holy Spirit-inspired writings of Christ's personal witnesses?
CHRISTIANITY relies solely on the Apostles' and Disciples' writings for its existence -- otherwise, it's not Christianity.
The HRCC is not true Christianity because of its heavy reliance on its nonscriptural doctrines.
Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin” (2 Macc. 12:43-45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory that, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees out of their Bibles in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.
This is also very enlightening. Thank a lot
This is also why we have the sacrament of reconciliation and the anointing of the sick (most often done for the dying). So sins (grave or not) be forgiven. Great explanation. I learned a lot. God bless!
Felipe Van Leeuwen I am not Roman Catholic because Rome denies the gospel. Rome has a gospel but not the gospel and, in reality, their gospel damns not saves because it explicitly denies that justification comes by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Rome accurately understands the Protestant position and unapologetically anathematizes it. To the work of Christ it adds the work of Mary. To the intercession of the Savior it adds the intercession of the saints. To the authority of the Bible it adds the authority of tradition. To the free gift of salvation it adds the necessity of human effort. In place of the finished work of Christ on the cross it demands the ongoing sacrifice of the mass. In place of the permanent imputation of Christ’s righteousness it substitutes the temporary infusion of works righteousness. In so many different ways it explicitly and unapologetically denies truth and promotes error. The Roman Catholic gospel is a false gospel.
I am not Roman Catholic because Rome is not the church. Rome claims to trace her lineage in an unbroken line that extends all the way back to the apostle Peter to whom Christ said, “Upon this rock I will build my church” (Matthew 16:18). In this way she says that she is the church with the power and authority to demand the allegiance and bind the conscience of every Christian. I do not recognize such lineage and, therefore, do not recognize such authority. Her claims are unprovable and represent a distortion of the Bible’s claims about Christ’s church. To be Catholic I would first have to bend the knee to the pope as the successor to Peter and acknowledge the Church as the continuation of what Christ began through his disciples. I cannot, because the Roman Catholic Church is a false church.
I am not Roman Catholic because Catholic worship is idolatrous. Protestants commonly charge Catholicism with promoting worship of Mary or the saints. Under the tutelage of R.C. Sproul I came to understand that this charge requires nuance and is, to some degree, a matter of defining words such as “venerate.” And yet there is undeniably a seed of what I must acknowledge as idolatry. This was affirmed during a recent trip to Europe where in Germany and Austria I visited Catholic cathedrals and saw the veneration of bones, relics, and icons, and where I saw the Church advocating and promoting prayers to Mary and the saints. Here was Catholicism in its full bloom and it was as alarming as it was tragic. I saw people who have not known the joyous freedom of the gospel desperately extending worship to or through Mary and the saints. They did it all under the guidance of their Church. In many of its forms Roman Catholic worship is idolatrous.
I joyfully affirm, of course, that there are true believers within Catholicism and that what is true of Rome’s official doctrine is not necessarily true of all of her adherents. Yet the salvation of these brothers and sisters has come despite the teachings of the church, not through them. I appreciate the point Leonardo De Chirico highlights here:
What refers to the Catholic Church in its doctrinal and institutional configuration cannot necessarily be extended to all Catholics as individuals. The grace of God is at work in men and women who, though considering themselves Catholics, entrust themselves exclusively to the Lord, cultivate a personal relationship with Him, read the Bible and live as Christians. These people, however, must be encouraged to reflect on whether their faith is compatible or not with belonging to the Catholic Church. Moreover, they must be helped to critically think over what remains of their Catholic background in the light of Biblical teaching.
I am not Roman Catholic. I am not Roman Catholic because I was raised to understand that Catholic doctrine is opposed to Scripture. But even more, I am not Roman Catholic because through my own examinations I came to see that she denies the gospel of free grace, that she claims authority that is not her own, and that she promotes worship that detracts from the worship we all owe exclusively to our God.
@@Wgaither1 I think the length of your answer shows how much effort you need to do just to justify your stand and make it "right." Perhaps you trust "your own" examinations more than you trust the Gospel and those whom Jesus has chosen to shepherd His people until he comes back again. I totally respect your opinion, but I disagree with the things you said about how we deny the Gospel etc. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, Son of the Father, and the Spirit was sent to keep the Church from going astray. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, doesn't matter what you think, that faith of mine on the Truth does not change. May you grow in God's Spirit wherever you are right now, and you'll never be astray. God bless you in Jesus Name. :)
@@Wgaither1 Rome has nothing to do with the Catholic Church. Roman Catholic refers to the rite of worship not the city of Rome
Thank you Dr. Pitre for teaching us so well about our catholic faith specially in light of the attacks from our protestants brothers and sisters that always claim that catholic teachings are not found in the Bible, also ignoring that ihe Catholic Church compiled the Bible and later on Martin Luther modified and took away books from the Catholic Bible therefore making the protestant bibles not the true word of God.
Nicely done. His interpretation is insightful and reasonable. The Bible says that when one party gives its side it seems right until the other party gives its side. Its an error in logic termed “what you see is all there is”. I would like to see a learned evangelical response.
Eternal Rest grant unto the souls in purgatory Oh Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace.
The thief in the night was for the unjust, but ye, brethren are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief
Thank you for your thoughts. If you dismiss all the other sayings of Jesus, I do see where you are coming from. Jesus said, He who has the Son has life & if you are my disciples you will obey my commands. Jesus makes it quite clear even in this Luke reading 12:35-46 that there are two responses to Jesus, faith or unbelief. Whatever happens to anyone outside these two options is known to God but not explained here in Luke.
Thank you for the video! it is kind of a strange conclusion you make about Peter as a faceful Stuard. There is nothing to be found about Peter as a head of the church in the Bible. It is kind of strange, is it?
That is correct! Peter was not appointed the Faithful Steward.
It was a body of Jesus anointed followers who were in Jerusalem who made the major decisions for the Congregations.
I never understood why people had such a huge issue with Purgatory. If "all have sinned", yet nothing unclean can enter Heaven, shan't we want Purgatory? Yeah, it's painful and suffering, but if we didn't have it, we'd all logically go to Hell. Either Purgatory exists, or we are all damned. It would be nice if people stopped thinking about it as a "second chance", which is NOT how it is defined by the Catholic Church.
I'm with you, Adam. And so are many Protestants, when you discuss this with them as opposed to debate them. Purgatory is just the purification process, that many Protestants understand has to happen. They have different semantics, and I think most would say it is a quicker process than we tend to think, but the process itself remains.
Paul , When we die and face Christ we will be judged for our works not our sins . Our sins are under the blood of Christ and our sins and iniquities are remembered no more
Paul Miller there is only one way to deal with sins is by calling on Jesus directly to cleanse you from all iniquities. 1 John 1:8,9 and 2:2. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins Hebrews 9:22. . We all have to call on Jesus directly just like the thief next to Jesus like Paul did in Acts 9:14-21. The blood of God paid for the sins of the entire world. Ephesians 2:8;9 By grace you have been saved through faith and this not of yourselves as it is a free gift of God and not by works as no one can boast. Exchange all the trust that you have in religion to Jesus and humble yourself and call out to Jesus with all your heart and see the miracle of salvation in your life. Be a living stone of the spiritual temple 1Peter 2:4.. Baptism always followed immediately after believing and being filled with the Holy Spirit.St Peter gives us the keys of the kingdom in Acts 2:38.
Brother Adam Hovey You didn’t understand the gospel. Watch livingwaters RUclips Chanel
Adam Hovey Adam Hovey So you’re saying Jesus crucifixion was in vain? We are made clean by the blood of Jesus Christ and his sacrifice on that cross. Those that are in Christ Jesus are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
After this is Judgment. There’s no purgatory.. Hebrews 9:27 - “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the Judgment.
Look at this verse Romans 3:23 - “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Now the following verse says right after that in Romans 3:24 - “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.” We are made righteous before the Father by putting faith in what Jesus Christ did on that cross , not ourselves.
Those that are in Christ is under obedience to the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:1 - “THERE is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Pray and ask God for wisdom and discernment. Read your Bible for yourselves and ask the Holy Spirit to teach you so you can discern Truth from false teachings. I’m freed from sin through what Jesus Christ did on that cross and I worship the Father in spirit and in Truth 🙏🏾 John 8:36 - “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” Repent for your sins and put your trust in what Jesus Christ did on that cross. Our debt for our sins has already been paid by Jesus Christ , the lamb of God ❤️
Think about the spiritual implication of what Jesus Christ. When you think of it with a carnal mind you’ll never understand it. Seek God will all your heart and you will find him. Pray and ask God for the understanding.
Romans 8:6 - “For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Love your teaching gift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😇
After the first 5 minutes I was like: what are you talking about, I came to hear about purgatory... Am glad I was patient until the end because is was a beautiful explanation after all. Thanks.
H just teaches me so much! And I’m a really good teacher!. It proves that we don’t have it all together but together we have it all. Thank you for giving us your all which widens my mind and heart to the truth of the gospel.
Dr. Pitre, your explanations make me want to become a Bible scholar. In the mean time, I will employ this explanation. Thank you so much.
Pina Mawya you are right to become a student of God’s word. Jesus said man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the word of God. Matthew 4:4. If we are eating breakfast ,dinner and supper and not feasting on Gods word then we are on a bad diet.Luke 23:34-44 tells us how the thief next to Jesus received his free gift of forgiveness and salvation and eternal. John 3:16 shows us clearly that when we believe in Jesus we get total forgiveness of sins.. Call on Jesus now and receive your free gift of forgiveness and salvation
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Thank you Seth. I think you misunderstood what I meant. My desire to be a Bible scholar doesn't mean I do not read God's word regularly. I attend Mass as often as I can and when I have some time, I read the Bible on my own. What I meant is to be like Dr. Pitre and the good folks over at EWTN (Fr. Mitch Pacwa), Catholic Answers etc. These are people who have dedicated their lives into studying the Bible and its roots.
For example, Dr. Pitre has explained so well the doctrine of Purgatory, which most protestants (if not all) deny. Just because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible, doesn't mean it's not true. In the explanation, he also briefly explained the papacy, again, another misunderstood topic by protestants.
That's what I meant. To be able to see the Bible in its entirety, to be able to read it in the language it was originally written in because that at times helps clarify some things which we, as modern day people, may not understand.
Pina Mawya what dis Jesus say ? I was encouraging you to read God’s word as Jesus told us. If you are eating a breakfast,dinner and supper everyday and not studying God’s word then you are on a bad diet.Matthew. 4:4 Jesus said Come to Me. You are never told to come to mass Come to me all of you and I will give you rest Mt 11:28. The only thing that matters is that you have received your free gift of forgiveness and salvation like the thief on the cross next to Jesus Luke 23:34-44. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus will have the free gift of eternal life and salvation. Romans 10:9-13.. We all need a savior or else we are lost. Call on Jesus right now and have life eternal
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@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Yes, Seth, you are right. In Matthew 4:4 Jesus did say, "One does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God" but He does not say that that is our sustenance. Jesus commands us on what to eat in John 6. Allow me to quote some verses as you have quoted some.
John 6:51, "I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever, and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world."
John 6:53-56, "...unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
Our Blessed Lord clearly stipulates what we are to eat. My question to you is, do you follow His commands or do you follow what you twist His words to mean?
I wonder if Matthew 5:30 is also a reference to purgatory, because Jesus says, "if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away" in reference to the cutting off of all earthly desires to be with God in Heaven.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
Christ did NOT tell the thief on the cross that today he'd go to purgatory FIRST and THEN paradise. Christ said to the thief: TODAY you'll be with me IN PARADISE....😔🌼 🌼 In different scripture Holy Spirit said, TODAY if ye hear HIS voice, harden not your heart's. TODAY mean's: This Day!!!!
True, but maybe by that thief's suffering on his cross which Jesus could obviously relate to, and his full acceptance of his plight, he did his purgatory there and was made pure, as in he made full reparation for his sins there.
@@erikbunty2016 Perhaps. We won't know until we come to the end of the narrow way😊💝
@@erikbunty2016that's alot of eisegesis....
Actually Jesus did not tell the thief he will be in Paradise with him that same day; otherwise Jesus lied, because he went to his grave for three days and three nights. Besides nobody goes to Heaven after death (John 3:13). We are to wait in our grave (Acts 2:29) for our salvation (Luke 21:28) on the 2nd coming of Christ.
@@whosays2153 yes, because Elijah and Moses were definitely asleep in Mathew 17:3 🤦♂️
Please read your Bible
Thank you! I’m a Catholic apologist and this is great! I love learning more and more. I’m a former anti Catholic Protestant
why did you go from believing jesus sacrifice was enough to believing its not enough.
@@peterzinya407Thats not how it is at all and you're screwed if you think you can get away with being a bad person but "bElIevE". All the Church Fathers rejected the idea of faith alone
@@peterzinya407 James 2:26
Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father..., Exodus 20 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." I was a Catholic, then I read the Bible. Now I'm a Christian.
@@johnnydirect7815 No, you're a heretic whose reading the Bible literally when Jesus spoke in parables and the OT utilizes symbolism. Read it again but from the 1st century Jewish perspective. Then it'll make sense
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Dr. Pitre for this great and fascinating explanation from the parable of Jesus pointing to a third temporary destination after death called purgatory!
He is great at making up stories out of nothing. You wish it is true, but it is not.
@Galaxy 2020
Aww... he's just trying Bypass the Cross!
@@Galaxy-ig8siExcept all pre-Nicene Christians, who knew the apostles and had the original copies of the bible, understood purgatory to be real. its the gnostics who didnt
@@MasterKeyMagic Purgatory is a lie from the RCC, to make money! The bible doesn't teach purgatory to get to Heaven. It teaches faith in Christ alone. See John 3:16
That man is a deceiver who does not know the scriptures and the truth that comes from God's word. The bible says that Jesus is the Savior of all men. And that by faith in Him, you have eternal life. John 3:16, Faith is all that is needed! Not by works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2, verses 8,9.
This is the first time I have heard a coherent Bible reference for purgatory. I'm impressed.
In scenarios 3 and 4 it’s the punishment of the lead servant (Apostles role) and not rest of the servants. Regardless of the role of the servants and punishment given the purpose and main point of these parables is the need to be ready for the way of the Lord than not the fear or level of punishment. Focusing on the punishment puts the focus on one’s self and how it impacts you/us and not the focus on honoring the Lord for his glory.
Praise God for this insightful video. I have been looking into this subject but some of the theological materials are just too deep for me.This is so easy for me to understand and to remember too. Thank God for all the people putting out good materials out there to help us better understand
why we belief what we belief. Alleluia. All Praise and Glory to God.
There is no such thing as purgatory.
@@John3_16_ WRONG
This is what happens when you do not read God's word for yourself and will accept what your peers in the roman Catholic church are accepting, without making sure that contextual scripture is being used. Acts 17:11 is an example to us and we generally throw our hands in the air and just accept what someone teaches instead! Jesus died on the cross for every sin you did , are doing, and will do . There is no stain of sin ,venial or mortal, upon you and you are assured of heaven because of what Christ has done not through anything we do.
@@lois2997 again Lois, instead of insecure personal attacks, please provide references with specific verses. You didn’t respond to my other same reply on this issue.
@@John3_16_Then why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started.
If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
The Virgin Mary’s apparition in Garabandal, Spain in the early 1960’s also specifically mentioned Purgatory to the young seers.
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Luke 12:41-48 There may be more than just four types of servants. This further emphasizes purgatory:
1) faithful and wise steward,
2) wicked cut in pieces - put with the unfaithful,
3) servant not prepared/acted not in accord with God's will,
4) ignorant and not in accord with God's will.
BUT the above set implies more categories such as:
5) the unfaithful or those outside the household (with whom the wicked servant is put),
6) unprepared but acted in accord with God's will (portion of group 3),
7) ignorant and acted in accord with God's will (by grace).
I think that those outside the household - the unfaithful - may be distinguishable from the unfaithful within the household, until the day of judgement when they are put together. Also, there may be more categories as not all servants are leaders or teachers.
This stratification is according to faith and to will of the individuals. AND according to whether or not in the household. This appears to encompass baptism as well as purgatory; faith and works; and, as Brant pointed out, those with teaching authority - Peter the Chief Steward - and those taught. By inference: those who are not ignorant, no matter their status in the hierarchy, have greater responsibility/accountability in faith, preparation, will, and works.
"Every one to whom much is given, of him much will be required; and of him to whom men commit much they will demand the more."
Plato had a concept of punishment for sin described as purgatory.
The idea has been made into doctrine.
To receive a dismemberment and be put with the unfaithful or to receive a light beating and be allowed to advance into the kingdom are definitely assigned after death? Or are they the result of choices on earth?
Or is there a gulf separating the faithful from the unfaithful? And that being after death. And those souls are awaiting the final judgement?
There's some ideas we get from reading about the man who asked Lazarus to dip his finger in water to cool the other man's tongue.
The separation between them made it impossible since Lazarus was in Abraham's bosom.
The thirsty man asked to warn his brothers not to come there and was told they would not believe even if someone was to rise from the dead.
I think God knows the heart of both the believer and the non believer. Neither of them can obtain salvation by works and the sin they commit can be forgiven if they have the heart of a believer and pray to increase their faith.
The man who won't, will be the one who thirsts in that example, I think.
There's no description of a place where light beatings are given except the world, that I can find. We can't lessen our worldly consequences except that we avoid the kind of things and places that lead to sin.
The moment we call upon the Lord to forgive us and be our Savior, dwell within us and be the Lord of our lives, our sins are forgiven.
I don't see Jesus punishing us after He has forgiven us as believers.
It's not mapped out that well in scripture to say there's a place other worldly of lighter punishment.
Absolutely insightful and refreshing take on Purgatory. I have never heard of this before. God bless you Dr Pitre
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
As a new convert from Protestant to Catholic, one of the topics I've struggled with the most is that of purgatory. I've read some books, but they don't really answer the question clearly, providing a thesis first then fumbling about to provide scriptures hear and there to support the thesis, leaving one with the sense that they are arguing a point versus teaching a truth. This video by Pitre (please write a book on the topic) provided me with a very clear, Biblical explanation for the reality of purgatory. Thank you.
Todd I hope you are reading the context of every verse given as some proof of purgatory. Read the context of 1 Cor 6: and then notice that the justification, sanctification and washing, in verse 11, is all past tense, as in already done , so we know from Revelation that no unclean thing will enter heaven and Jesus has done absolutely everything to make you clean already before you die . Purgatory denies the full payment for ALL sins that Jesus accomplished on the cross. There is absolutely nothing you can do to merit God's acceptance on your own . If you can by all means point out the scripture that says anything close to it.
There are lots of RUclips videos about Church mystics who have seen purgatory in visions, who have been taken there by their guardian angels and who have been visited by the Holy Souls to ask for prayers.
There’s also a Museum of the Holy Souls of Purgatory in Rome with artifacts scorched by the Holy Souls. The display consists of one large glass-enclosed case in a small room adjoining the sacristy of the Parish of the Sacred Heart in Prati, Italy.
Jesus sent Fostina to visit Purgatory with her guardian angel. She heard the Lord say, My mercy does not want this, but justice demands it."
The Holy Souls are suffering and it is our job as the Church Militant to relieve it. We gain their release by offering prayers for them throughout the day. Jesus. Jesus meek and humble of heart make my heart like unto Yours. My Lord and my God. This is just a few of the prayers we can offer for their release.
Praying for the Holy Souls covers all the works of mercy (Matthew 25 judgement scriptures) and the commandment to love thy neighbor as thyself.
Todd, keep this thought on the back burner. Did Jesus leaves us a a visible authoritative earthly authority to guide us until His return? Once you can except that, the other puzzle pieces will start falling in place. You may not completely understand a teaching but you will be able to accept it. God bless.
St. Faustina writes in her diary about visiting purgatory.
[The next night] I saw my Guardian Angel, who ordered me to follow him. In a moment I was in a misty place full of fire in which there was a great crowd of suffering souls. They were praying fervently, but to no avail, for themselves; only we can come to their aid. The flames which were burning them did not touch me at all. My Guardian Angel did not leave me for an instant. I asked these souls what their greatest suffering was. They answered me in one voice that their greatest torment was longing for God. I saw Our Lady visiting the souls in PURGATORY. The souls call her “The Star of the Sea.” She brings them refreshment. I wanted to talk with them some more, but my Guardian Angel beckoned me to leave. We went out of that prison of suffering. [I heard an interior voice] which said, My mercy does not want this, but justice demands it. Since that time, I am in closer communion with the suffering souls. (Diary, 20)
She called it a prison of suffering. Jesus speaks about prison. You won’t get out until you have paid the last penny. You don’t get out of hell.
Part 1: The Profession of Faith (26 - 1065)
Section 2: The Profession of the Christian Faith (185 - 1065)
Chapter 3: I Believe in the Holy Spirit (683 - 1065)
Article 12: "I believe in life everlasting" (1020 - 1065)
III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY ⇡
1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.
1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. 606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire: 607
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come. 608
606. Cf. Council of Florence (1439):DS 1304; Council of Trent (1563):DS 1820; (1547):1580; see also Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336):DS 1000.
607. Cf. 1 Cor 3:15; 1 Pet 1:7.
608. St. Gregory the Great, Dial. 4,39:PL 77,396; cf. Mt 12:31.
Part 2: The Celebration of the Christian Mystery (1066 - 1690)
Section 2: The Seven Sacraments of the Church (1210 - 1690)
Chapter 2: The Sacraments of Healing (1420 - 1532)
Article 4: The Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation (1422 - 1498)
X. INDULGENCES ⇡
The punishments of sin ⇡
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1472 To understand this doctrine and practice of the Church, it is necessary to understand that sin has a double consequence. Grave sin deprives us of communion with God and therefore makes us incapable of eternal life, the privation of which is called the "eternal punishment" of sin. On the other hand every sin, even venial, entails an unhealthy attachment to creatures, which must be purified either here on earth, or after death in the state called Purgatory. This purification frees one from what is called the "temporal punishment" of sin. These two punishments must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without, but as following from the very nature of sin. A conversion which proceeds from a fervent charity can attain the complete purification of the sinner in such a way that no punishment would remain. 84
84. Cf. Council of Trent (1551): DS 1712-1713; (1563): 1820.
In the Communion of Saints ⇡
1475 In the communion of saints, "a perennial link of charity exists between the faithful who have already reached their heavenly home, those who are expiating their sins in purgatory and those who are still pilgrims on earth. between them there is, too, an abundant exchange of all good things."87 In this wonderful exchange, the holiness of one profits others, well beyond the harm that the sin of one could cause others. Thus recourse to the communion of saints lets the contrite sinner be more promptly and efficaciously purified of the punishments for sin.
87. Indulgentiarum doctrina, 5.
1498 Through indulgences the faithful can obtain the remission of temporal punishment resulting from sin for themselves and also for the souls in Purgatory.
Very enlightening!!! You have explained it very clearly. Thank you for investing some wisdom regarding this subject.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
@@silasr20 what about tje theif on the cross?
And what about when Elijah and Moses appeared next to Jesus?
When we die, we will either join our Father, or hell.
@@DrDoerk Moses, Elijah, Enoch, and the 24 elders are the only people who are in heaven. The theif didn’t go to heaven that day because Jesus himself didn’t go to heaven that day. The theif is still dead in his grave until Jesus returns. No one is in hell burning now. Hell means the grave
This is a fascinating discussion and it seems to me to be pretty much right on with other places in the gospels where Jesus discusses these kinds of things, but I've got one issue - as a protestant who's fascinated by Catholicism but you lost me when you said that the "punishment" due is to satisfy some kind of justice. You pointed out that venial sins draw the punishment "that justice requires..."
So here's my issue - if Christ's death burial and resurrection paid the penalty for our sins - past present & future - then how is it that there is any kind of justice left to satisfied?
The way I've come to understand purgatory as a concept is a time of refinement - a purging of our flaws, weaknesses and shortcomings. So it makes sense to me that purgatory would be a period of refinement before entering into the final kingdom of God - there's nothing that I see in all of scripture that says our character is immediately transformed upon death as a "saved" Christian - that totally makes sense to me.
I'm glad to be corrected where I'm wrong - I'm deeply committed to the concept of "following the truth wherever it may lead". However, I don't understand the concept of "punishment" that you're talking about. Like I said, if Christ paid the penalty, what punishment is left unpaid?
I wouldn't look at punishment in purgatory as being painful in a physical sense, but more of a temporary situation where we cannot enter the heavenly kingdom until our purification from sin is completed with the aid of God's grace.
@ robert david Orr you are correct! Jesus took our punishment once for all. There is no sin we will have to pay for in "purgatory". Hebrews chap 9,10 along with isa 53 plus the entire book of john makes this clear. Jesus has given his sheep who are you myself and so many others eternal life. It last forever! For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present and threatening, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. That's romans 8. Grace and peace be upon you. Amen😁
@@jzak5723 it's by God's grace that we have been saved. The blood of Jesus purifies us from all sin. We are already clean because of the word Jesus spoke to us. I pray this will set you free from bondage of fear. The Lord loves you. Who the son sets free is free indeed🙌
@@jzak5723 I get that and I understand that (and I'd even agree with that). However, he among others uses this word "punishment" and there's a very clear meaning of that word and they're using it in this video. Hence my honest question...
Would love to see a response to my question from @Catholic Productions
Writings of Italian mystic Maria Valtorta, Jesus said to his Apostles: There is no greater act of mercy one can do while living on earth than to pray for the Souls in Purgatory, especially those who have no one to pray for them... Jesus said that alone, that alone.....
A mystic ?????????
@@luongorob8409 Yes! †
Jesus never said that
@@DrDoerk Read the Poem of the Man~God by Maria Valtorta then tell me that... Her works has the blessing of Our Lady of Medjugorje, St. Padre Pio, Mother Teresa and Pope Pius XII
As a Protestant, I do know there is a Purgatory. Sounds a bit like earth but it’s higher.
No soul is worthy enough for heaven, but due to His grace and love for the elected, He calls us there. We can’t just glide into Paradise unclean from this filthy earth, where Hell is below our feet (and roaming around on earth). We must be cleansed, groomed and polished for entry. There are levels in Purgatory and no one is forced to undergo the process. You can decide to make hell your eternity.
Born and raised a staunch Catholic. When I had questions I was told to believe the Pope. So I had to do my own research into Catholic Church snd what I believed.
After more than 50 years this is the most far fetched explanation for Purgatory. In my research the only thing I could find to in any way to back this doctrine was in Maccabees. Can't build a doctrine on one scripture.
ALL sin is repugnant to our Heavenly Father. Jesus tells us to be pure like the Father is. No grey areas there.
We have this life only to live by our choice as God Almighty desires or we choose not to. That means in thought, word or deed.
When we mess up, we can seek forgiveness which is the antidote to the poison of sin. How simple! How freeing!
Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge. God bless you.
everyday Jesus never mentioned purgatory and it doesn’t exist but only in the minds of those making money from it. But we cannot buy the gift of god with money Acts 8:20
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Jesus never mentioned Bible but you believe the Bible, where did Jesus mention the BIBLE?.
General Nwankwo Jesus said man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the word of God. Where is the word of God written ? You are right in the Bible. What does the Bible mean. B I B L E Believers Instructions Before Leaving Earth.Have you received your free gift of forgiveness and Paradise yet ? We are all forgiven but we either reject our salvation or receive our free gift of forgiveness and salvation. By calling on Jesus directly is the only way to receive our free gift of forgiveness and salvation and eternal life.Call on Jesus directly and receive your free gift of forgiveness and salvation and eternal life. Jesus is the only way to the Father John 14:6
Tonito Reyes have you received your free gift of salvation and forgiveness of sins. We all need a savior and Jesus is the savior of the the entire world. Jesus said Father forgive them which included you and me and the entire world. Jesus is the only savior as the lamb sacrifice who took away the sins of the world. The thief next to Jesus called on Jesus directly and was saved for all eternity Luke 23:34-44 and Paul called on Jesus directly and receive his free gift of salvation. Acts 9:1-21. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus will be saved Romans 10:9-13. Call on Jesus right now and have Paradise and eternal life Jesus said Come to me all you who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest. Go for it
Tonito Reyes you are arguing with yourself. You are either in Christ or still in the Adams family. When you are washed by the blood then you are complete in Christ. Then it’s no longer we that live but Christ living in us. Colossians 2:10. We are called to pray without ceasing. If anyone is sick let him call the elders and then the prayer of faith will heal James 5:13. We’re coheirs with Christ and we need to take authority over every situation that we deal with in Jesus name.We are temples of the Holy Spirit and we’re sealed with the Holy Spirit until our redemption Ephesians 1:13.Go preach the gospel to every creature making disciples of all in Jesus name.All blessings in Jesus name Love from Ireland
Exceptional explanation thank you so much 🙏
Very good explanation. Keep up the good work. I think I will start listening to your program.
What chapter verse the 4gatory???