I know this is unrelated, but I did not know Mother Theresa got spit on from asking a baker if he had a loaf of bread for starving orphan children and she said, “Okay, that was for me, but what about the bread for the orphans?” Amazing. She was amazing. To have that patience and love.. If it happened to me I don’t know what I’d do. Being spit on is not only disgusting but also infuriating. I hope that I can become as kind. ❤️
"I hope that I can become as kind", well said, I too hope and pray for such wonderful patience. Getting older, I noticed my own anger wells up quicker than it used to. Please, Dear Lord, I pray for an increase in my patience and to quell my anger.
I've learned to thank the wicked when they abuse me for obeying Christ. After all, they inadvertently bless me thereby. If they get angered by that, that's their own fault.
@@andrewpatton5114 *"A dung heap can't get into Heaven even if it is buried under a mile of snow. God cannot lie; He cannot declare righteous those who are not actually righteous. You must be washed and transformed by Christ so that you are actually righteous."* You are declared righteous by God when you trust Him. You are declared righteous by imputed righteousness, you are declared righteous if you wear Christ's robe of righteousness, you are declared righteous by God because Christ was righteous and you trust Christ. If by any stretch you think your own self righteousness weights in the balance for your salvation, then you are trusting yourself for your salvation, and you are declaring Christ's blood insufficient : making you an unsaved unbeliever. 1) when you get born again (by faith in Christ's work), The sins on our account are washed away by the blood of Christ and your spirit is renewed and cannot sin anymore. *1 john 3;9* _"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."_ But your corrupted flesh makes you sin still *Romans 7;14-25* _"14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."_ 2) At Christ's second coming occurs the first resurrection of the saints (saved people). At this moment we'll be given incorruptible bodies, and be caught in the skies, before 7th seal is opened and God pour his wrath on the world. -> with a sinless spirit and an incorruptible body, we won't sin anymore. *1 cor 15;50-53* _"50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."_ 3) Christ's judgment over the church (1 cor 3 that catholics tries to twist to justify purgatory) occurs *after* we get sinless. -> there is no more sin _'to be purged'_ then.
@@nicolas9533 Declared righteous or made righteous? It is written, "You will not acquit the guilty," and "God is not a man, that He should lie." He cannot declare righteous those who are not actually righteous; rather, "If any man is in Christ, he is a new creature." God's grace transforms sinners into saints. Christ takes away the sins of world, rather than papering over them.
As an independent fundamental Baptist (Protestant), this has changed my mind a bit. I’ll do my own study over the matter (referencing scripture with scripture, no private interpretations, etc) to clarify it for myself. But this is intriguing at the very least.
Verus Luciferum You should look into the more moderate Orthodox View of “The 3rd State”, for want of a better term. We’ve never quite settled on what to call it. You see, nearly everything about the sources for this video and most of the discussions are true. What we disagree on is the conclusion of purgatory as defined is necessarily entirely accurate and absolutely disagree that indulgences are the right way to deal with the problem. There IS a third state, we are required to pray for the dead there, but we Orthodox don’t agree that enough is known to dogmatically define it beyond what’s revealed in scripture, and even if a reconciled Orthodox Catholic Church eventually DOES come to agree on the metaphysic, a condition of reunification will be that all dogmas unique to Rome since 1054 will have to be at least temporarily rescinded until re-confirmed by a LEGITIMATE Ecumenical Council, as we will NEVER accept Papal Supremacy. Orthodoxy will ever be a Confederated Hierarchy Of Bishops. Rome must return to this; God does not want an absolute monarchy on earth, HE is our only absolute Monarch. Confederation was His plan in the Book of Judges, and we believe was his plan for the Church. ALL Patriarchs have the “Keys to the Kingdom”; The Rock has many peaks. Anyway, I can also confirm that only Requiem Mass/Liturgy will ever be recognized as the appropriate method for helping the dead. We will never accept the Indulgence System. It has been proven too corruptible and prone to selfish motivation even without tithe abuse. To get where I’m particularly coming from, check this out: www.staugustinedenver.com westernorthodox.com/reference-library/western-rite-parish-directory/ And see my recent videos as well. I will update them as often as I can. My focus is on Western Rite masses, but I will include any sort of Orthodox sermons, as I travel and Greeks outnumber us 10-1, so manage.
@Fisticuffs Guilde During Fatima, when Mother Mary appeared to the three children, I believe it was St. Lucia who had asked Mary about two friends of hers who had recently died. Mother Mary, one she told to Lucia was in Heaven and the other was in Purgatory and would remain there until the end of of the world. I am also a Catholic convert. Still miss RCIA at times. Purgatory is mentioned in the Bible, just not by name. Jesus spoke alot in parables and not everything should be taken literally. You need to try and know what is to be taken literally and what is a metaphor. That's tough, but that's where videos like this help and there are also Catholic books on it. You may even have a Catholic bookstore near where you live. Ask you Priest or Deacon.
Fisticuffs Guilde; Purgatory is Biblical, it may not be explicitly spelled out in Scripture, but nonetheless it is implicitly taught in Scripture. The word Purgatory like Trinity or the Incarnation may not be in Scripture but the concepts are. We also know that even the jews before Christ’s believed in praying the dead. Trinity is one of the foundational teachings of christianity even though the word doesn’t appear in Scripture, but God revealed both the Trinity and Purgatory to us. There actually are several areas in Scripture where the Doctrine of Purgatory can be found in 1st Corinthians 3 says; “ON THE DAY A MAN DIES HE WILL BE JUDGED, AND FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVED IN JESUS THEIR WORKS WILL BE TESTED BY FIRE” and Verse 15 says; “IF ANY MAN’S WORK IS BURNED UP, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS, THOUGH HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED.” So there must be some other ‘place’ that is neither heaven nor hell and catholics call that Purgatory is God’s “refining fire.” Purgatory is rooted in Christ’s promise we must be perfect. According to Scripture, man must attain the highest perfection to enter into heaven and if that perfection is not attained by the time of death, then he/she must be purified to reach that perfection entering in heaven. The need for purgation thus from the promises of God we shall one day perfect “YOU MUST BE PERFECT AS THE HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT.” (Mtt. 5: 48, Rev. 3:2.). (2 Cor. 7: 1; James 1: 4) St. Paul says; “MAY GOD WHO HAS BEGUN IN US. BY GOD’S GRACE, IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO COMPLETION” and that means the purification process continues even after death. Heaven is also described in the Bible as a place of those who have been made perfect (Hebrew 12: 23; Rev. 21: 27).
@@eldermillennial8330 If you will never accept Papal supremacy, then you clearly aren't Christian. The Holy Catholic Church has had plenty of LEGITIMATE Church councils, and Purgatory is an infallible fact of truth.
@Fisticuffs Guilde Here are many of the scriptures which are referring to Purgatory in the Bible. Purgatory Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven." 2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.". Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing. Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come. (NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.) Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts. Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt. Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. " Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life. 1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire. Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire." 1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: (NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
I'd like to think we saw a living parable of Purgatory actually unfold in the OT. The Jews walking through the desert are not allowed to enter the promise land (heaven) until the sinful generation that came from egypt died out (is purged). Some of them were taken into hell in the process (Numbers 26:10). Only 2 of out of the first generation out of Egypt (Joshua and Caleb) made it to the promise land and the rest were never allowed in. So we see the 2 (Joshua and Caleb) that make it and they see the promise land, those that are not allowed (the first out of egypt) in but still are saved through the covenant and then those who are cast into hell for their rebellion against the established order of God. It could be a stretch on my part, but the Bible is so much more profound than people realize. To take the Bible at face value is absurd! It's so rich in deep meaning that skimming only the surface would be ridiculous.
Foxxitude I agree with you there ,the bible is rich in references to a place like purgatory, but Jesus doesn't mention it specifically because some wouldn't live their lives naturally, and would worry themselves sick, and would not be themselves. They would be fake. They would be staying up all night to catch the "thief in the night".
@@Mar-wt3di I am glad that you can read the Lord Jesus' mind, what He did and what He did not do. Are you a prophet, maybe even a messiah? Jesus Christ is God in flesh. Please, for your own sake, do not accuse God of being deceitful.
@@mirr1427 Well I'll put it another way, He doesn't tell us when we will die does he, why? because if you knew the hour you would be acting up and being a fake saint just because you knew the day in advance and you wouldn't live the life you would have done without knowing. He wants us to come as we are, striving to do our best. Some are saints sooner than others, this is where Purgatory comes in, to purify us either by excepting hardships thrown at us, and love for our God and our fellow man here on earth ,or if we neglected these things later on in a state of purgatory.
@@Mar-wt3di In that respect it makes no difference if we know or do not know the exact day of our expiration. We all know that our time is short in this world, be it even 100 years. There are thousands upon thousands of people expiring every day because of sickness or old age. In general, no body is acting up knowing that there only few years or even few weeks left to live, though there might be some extreme cases in that regard. Lord Jesus did not tell when He is coming back to take His bride, the church with Him to the Fathers house before the end times, because even He did not know the day Himself but only the Father knows it. It has nothing to do with the so called ‘purgatory’, man’s invention. This is my riposte to the lecture in the video, and I am pasting it here for you to reed: There is no ‘purgatory’; death and upon resurrection judgment. Purgatory was invented by the Talmudic Jews and then adopted by the Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Florence in 1438-1445. My question is: what happened with the souls before the Council of Florence took place? The proverb in Luke that you are discussing only illustrates severity of punishment for certain types of behavior and of course reward for obedience. Let’s delve into the subject of sin: the three types of misconduct depicted in Luke are three types of sinful behavior, you cannot dispute that. Sins can only be washed off with the blood of Lord Jesus Christ, He died on cross for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 (KJV) "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." When you are on the other side, it is already too late to be cleansed. Furthermore, there are no other determinants to quench the guilt for the sins but the blood of Christ. Furthermore, sins can be pardoned only when confessed and asked God for forgiveness in the name of Lord Jesus Christ (not a priest, priests cannot forgive sins). Mark 2:5-7 ...who can forgive sins but God only?” 1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Romans @-24 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:” Isaiah @ “I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.” Isaiah @ “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” (only God is the One that can save us from sins, not a priest) Romans @ “23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” 1Timothy 2:5-6 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time” After people die, the souls are waiting to be resurrected. Eccles. 9:5-6 “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in anything that is done under the sun.” (the dead are waiting in their graves to be resurrected and judged, the souls sleep) 1 Thess. @-18 “13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleepin Jesus will God bring with him.15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.” John @-29 “28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” Sir, with all the respect, yourself, you are playing with the fire, an eternal fire by deceiving people and leading them to everlasting condemnation. Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV) “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Once again, the gospel is: Lord Jesus Christ suffered, and died on the cross for the sins of the world, and was resurrected on the third day according to the Scripture. He paid fully for our sins and only by His blood we can be cleansed. And not in a man’s made-up purgatory by some other imaginary means. Man (I am referring to preacher), whoever you are, and whatever your title is, when you will stand in front of the White Throne facing the Almighty Judge, you will have a huge burden upon your shoulders for deceiving thousands, upon thousands ignorant people who rely on your word instead of turning to the word of God, and seeking the truth in the Bible. 2Tim. @“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” 2Peter @ “For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” Hosea 4:6“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” There is no excuse for ignorance, the Bible is accessible for all. Amen.
@@mirr1427 I know nobody is acting up , that was just an example of what might happen if we knew the date of our death. You seem to dodge the very words of Jesus in the many parables he told to teach us what the kingdom of Heaven is like. And you are right about being washed by the blood of Jesus saving us from hell The foundation in the following is an example. 1Cor 3.10-15 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid the foundation , and someone else is building on it. Each builder must choose with CARE how to build on it. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one that has been laid, that foundation is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation, with gold silver precious stones wood hay straw, the WORK of each builder will become visible, for the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with FIRE, and the fire will test what sort of WORK each has done. IF what has been built on the foundation survives, the builder will receive a reward, IF the work is burned up, the builder will suffer loss, the builder will be SAVED, but only through fire. Now don't you think that all the loss and suffering will be gone and settled before entering into Heaven ? Remember there is no suffering in Heaven right ?
You make an interesting case. In my Protestant years, I had read this passage as your “cases 3 and 4” (many blows versus few blows) as being a mere amplification of cases 1 and 2 (the faithful versus foolish stewards). But I can see how the case can be made for cases 3 and 4 being ADDITIONAL situations. Also, the wording here - “steward” and “servant” - CLEARLY indicates people who have an existing relationship with Jesus, not just anyone from off the streets. So there can be no doubt that Jesus is talking about his followers - CHRISTIANS - here. Additionally, we have 1 Peter 4:17-18 to reinforce this concept: “For it is time for judgment to begin with the God's household, and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, if it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the sinner?” Clearly, right here in the Bible, we have this: Christians are going to be judged, too! And it is hard even for them to be saved - OR, at least hard for them to go straight in to Glory without any punishment/purification whatsoever. The passage talking about our works being “tested by fire” definitely applies here, especially regarding those who “will still be saved, but only as those escaping through the flames.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15. When I was a Protestant, these passages perplexed me, and I struggled with the meaning of them. Now Catholic and well catechized, it all comes together to make sense. PERFECT sense (I LOVE how the Church does that!)
@AVB2 How do you read the parable as, then? And by the way, I totally agree with you. Jesus the Messiah forgives/purges our sins. But He also tells us we must repent of our sins to be forgiven of them (“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9, note John says we must confess our sins) and also ("Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord." Acts 3:19). And many other verses support this. So if someone is saved in Faith by the Lord Jesus Christ, yet they have sins they have not repented for, then they will be "beaten" for these sins because they were not ready for judgement, but of course still saved and given Eternal Life by Christ. Or you could also say they will be tested by fire and escape out of flames like as described in 1st Corinthians 3. Essentially, on the Last Day, the Lord of Hosts will send the majority of people to outer darkness and eternal destruction, but among the saved there will then be those who were ready for His coming and will be given glory and Eternal Life in the Kingdom of God, and those who were not ready and will be given a beating but then the Lord will give them Eternal Life as well. And then there will be those who never receive the Message of God, and they will also be given a beating but then God will allow them Eternal Life in His Kingdom.
@AVB2 you do majorly err by making a context error. When confronted with two verses that seem to contradict, you MUST go with the meaning that satisfies them both. So no it's not in error. You are. You're just reading it wrong.
@AVB2 I gave you a citation above -- did you not read it? It does not "disprove" your Hebrews citation; rather, it complements it. I prefer to look to the whole Bible for my answers rather than hanging myself on just one verse. And I am NOT your "lifelong Catholic" -- I am a lifelong Protestant and Catholic-HATER of 36 adult years who converted to Catholicism in 2021 after a vigorous attempt to do what you're trying to do. Fact is, Catholic apologetics are VERY sound, and it turns out our strongly held Protestant beliefs are what's built on the sand. I was never more shocked to discover this! But when the facts were on the table - I'm an honest man - I did only what I could do: I embraced them, and I am Catholic today. And I could go on for 1000+ words detailing all the positive ways that decision has blessed my Christian walk! Are YOU an honest man? You need to look much more deeply into what you're attacking. Not through the lens of protestant apologetics, but rather through the lens of Catholic apologetics.
Todd ask yourself did Jesus or the Apostles talk about Purgatory? No. Then why are they. His Apostles didn't. I am so tired of these people assuming and LYING I am REPENTING and asking God for my GENERATION and body life holy Spirit back enough of this mess.
Jesus absolutely talked about getting purified thru fire before Heaven. The more you read and research, the more the Holy Spirit will fill you with wisdom and understanding. Nothing unpure can enter Heaven. Jesus forgives us (ONLY if we ASK for forgiveness) but He then purifies us in Purgatory. @@TriciaPerry-ef7bi
I remember going through the process of having my mind blown by stuff like this when I was still a protestant. My mind is still being blown as a recent convert, but it hits different when you cross the Tiber. Consider this my invitation - come home!
The Bible clearly teaches punishment in Hell for those who reject Christ and it clearly teaches there are worse punishments for those who willfully and knowingly reject Him. See: Matt 10:15, Matt 11:22, 24; mark 6:11, Heb 6:29 Those 3 servants (who were not ready) all go to Hell in this parable, with varying degrees of punishment. The Bible clearly teaches salvation by grace through faith in Jesus. Jesus directly refers to Hell and Heaven many times but strangely never mentions purgatory 🤔 Neither does Paul or Peter or any other NT writer. Why is Christ’s sacrifice not enough??? Why can Catholics not accept and receive His beautiful gift of salvation? “And if it is by grace, then it is no longer by works. Otherwise, grace would no longer be grace.” Romans 11:6 BSB
I don't recall if Brent included this following verse in his video talk but it has recently become one of my favorite verses that point clearly to something that will occur spiritually and, as I believe, in the next life. It's found it Matthew 18 where Jesus has just told the parable of the unforgiving servant who was forgiven by the master but then refused to forgive another who owed him money. After the parable, Jesus said the following statement beginning verse 35..." So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you (put you in prison until you pay the last penny), if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.” We can give any name we like to Jesus' words and it still works. It's just that the church chose to call it purgatory.
The lost will never make it to heaven. Purgatory does not exist in the Bible, it's an invention of the evil Vatican, the whore of Babylon. Read the Bible for yourself: the saved people will go to heaven with JESUS, the lost into hell and later into the Lake of Fire. Listen to real theologians like Dr. John Ankerberg and check out the Jack Chick Gospel Tracts!
so i guess the sins of the thief on the cross werent so bad as to warrant purgatory. after all, Jesus told him "TODAY you will be with me in PARADISE". and paul was apparently unaware of this doctrine as well, he stated "to be absent rom the body is to be present with the lord" when referring to believers. neither Jesus nor Paul spoke about any kind of holding period for cleansing of sins, the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross was enough, hence Him saying "it is finished!"
@@TriciaPerry-ef7bi OK, then please explain for us how the thief was purified since according to Rev 21: 27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
We all view through our traditions when interpreting Scripture. That's why the writings of the first Christians are so important as commentaries. Anyone can find them in pdf form online
That verse is always misquoted, especially at funerals. Scripture doesn't say to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Paul said that he would rather be present with the Lord and absent from his body. If given the choice between the two, that would be his preference and that is how it's worded in scripture. As far as the thief, listen to Chad Ripperger on suffering. He talks about suffering on earth vs. in purgatory and that may be the key to understanding that verse. God bless.
This is the first time purgatory has been explained through the message Dr. Pitre dwells on at length. I never looked at it that way before. May God continue to shed His light upon you, Dr. Pitre. And thank you for explaining what is usually a tough topic to deal with.
The Carpenter Jesus never mentioned purgatory. The thief next to Jesus was a prime candidate for purgatory but Jesus assured him of Paradise with Him Luke 23:34-44. Limbo was an other imaginary place which closed down in 1959. We can’t buy the gift of god with money Acts 8:20. By one sacrifice we have been perfected forever Hebrews 10:14.Or the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1:9. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins Hebrews 9:22. Call on Jesus right now and Paradise and eternal life John 3:16
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 If you mean literally the word Purgatory is not mentioned in the Bible, then by that token we cannot believe in the Trinity, because that's not mentioned in the Bible. The Bible itself does not say that unless something is in the book, you don't have to believe it. Purgatory, however, is inferred in the Bible. No Catholic believes they can buy God's grace with money. But, to make an offering of some sort, you would need money. But, God sees our heart and simply making offerings is not going to move Him. The Bible says, a contrite heart O Lord you will not spurn.
@@The-Carpenter Thanks for your response. Yes you’re right there is not one mention of purgatory in God’s word from Genesis to Revelation..The blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9 Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Hebrews 9:22. By one sacrifice we have been perfected forever Hebrews 10:14..Jesus said to the thief on Calvary Assuredly this day you you will be with me in Paradise Luke 23:34-44. Yes purgatory was introduced into the Roman Catholic Church by Pope Gregory the great in 590ad but it wasn’t until pope Sixtus 4th before it began to make money in 1446 ad .We still pay a lot of money through Mass cards But saint Peter said that we cannot buy the gift of God by money. Freely we have received and freely we give. Limbo was also a man made place Call on the Lord Jesus and have eternal life John 3:16. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all unrighteousness. Jesus is the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world John 1:29 (2000 years ago on Calvary). Baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance in the Lord Jesus Christ
@@johnfrancisbien8345 Thanks for your response. Yes I gave scriptures to match any statement I made. I just declared the facts of scriptures. Jesus never mentioned purgatory in any of his talks . Purgatory is making a mock of Jesus finished work on Calvary. You obviously have found another way to heaven But we know that Jesus is the only way to the Father. Our prayer should be Mary’s prayer. My soul magnifies the Lord Jesus and My spirit rejoices in God my savior Luke 1:46-48 Who is Mary’s savior? Yes you’re right Jesus is the savior of the entire world or the lamb of god who took away the sins of the entire world. Have you received your free forgiveness and salvation yet? Is the Lord Jesus your savior or have you found another way John 14:6. Call on Jesus right now and have eternal life with the Lord Jesus. You can’t buy the gift of God with money Acts 8:20. Call on the Lord Jesus right now and have Paradise with Jesus forevermore
@@royruser5074 You performed the functions but you never really understood Catholicism. You only have an artificial understanding. Most people who say I was raised Catholic have little or no understanding at all of the WHY of what they were doing or the history behind it which is why they are led away easily by Judas.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker Catholicism is purely pagan. Every religious ritual they performed not supported by Bible. Please tell me single line from the Bible that support it
@@modestsohtun9525 The Bible was put together by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome in 382. It is a purely Catholic document and can only be infallibly interpreted by the Catholic Church. I suggest you compile your own bible.
@@modestsohtun9525 You worship a book. We worship God. Do you think the Bible fell down from Heaven? The Bible is a Catholic document, first put together in 382 by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome. You are quoting from a Catholic book. Congratulations you have made the first towards becoming Catholic.
@@modestsohtun9525 Only the devil calls what is Holy, pagan, and nothing that a protestant believes is supported by the Bible. If you are so anti Catholic you should reject the Bible, because it was the Catholic Church that put it together, and declared the scriptures inspired by God in the first place. Purgatory Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven." 2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.". Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing. Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come. (NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.) Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts. Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt. Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. " Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life. 1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire. Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire." 1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: (NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
Ask an Rabbi today. They say hell an adjustment to heaven. And they say the Yiddish prayer for the souls for this purification to heaven. This was always in the Jewish word of God. Jesus and the apostles were Jewish and believed in purgatory. It doesn’t need to be spelled out in the New Testament.
As a Catholic I struggled with the idea of purgotary all my life. But this teaching is such an eye opener. Never heard something like this ever and my goodness I am just in awe of what you have just taught.Thank you so much.Can wait to meditate on it.
Read the context of every scripture given as proof. You will find a different meaning . Dr P has good teaching ability but that does not mean he is correct. You need to read the scriptures to prove that there is heaven and hell and some in between place. You will find hell and you will find heaven .
@@johncastillon3454 There is no "judgement" for those that are saved. Scripture tells us that we have the righteousness of Christ if we have believed in Him.
Think of purgatory this way: A mischievous kid throws a rock at a car window belonging to his neighbor. The neighbor goes into rage mode demanding monetary payment for the damage incurred. The kid's parents pay the damage to avoid further trouble and resolve the matter (This is a picture of eternal debt being paid. Obviously the kid is incapable of paying for the damage done to his neighbor's car) However, the kid is brought home and is caned by his parents for his misbehavior. This is a picture of the temporal consequences that is paid off. The kid is not kicked out and disowned as he is still their child, so similarly us believers are still saved (Heaven-bound) - sons and daughters of God. Yet the kid is caned temporarily... why? Because he is to be purged from his wrongdoing, to become better, and to be restored to right relationship with his parents and neighbour.
Nothing unclean shall enter heaven. If we still have vices and impurities attached to our souls as we die in a state of Grace, it is humility that strives us to be 'washed and purified' first before seeing our Creator.
Yes Jesus died once and for all to take away the sins of the world, and to rebuild the bridge reconnecting Man and God. Nothing more, nothing less. That we do not deny or debate against. The blood of Christ covers our original sin - saving grace conferred onto us via baptism in water and spirit (as well as confirmation - sealing with the Holy Spirit). But because we still have original sin, we still have sinful inclinations. As long as we're in this world, we'll be exposed to temptations and near occasions of sin. Hence, we all fall down, struggle and make mistakes. Let's be honest, can we confidently say that at the moment of our deaths we are 100% unblemished? Several of us indeed yes, but not every disciple (one who is in a state of grace and friendship with Christ) Salvation is ongoing - I was saved yesterday, currently being saved and express a confident hope of being saved in the future. We teach an ongoing sanctification and inner renewal of the righteousness conferred by Christ to us. Purgatory simply serves to assist some of us with achieving that objective. It's gonna hurt but no pressure, no diamonds. Just my 2 cents worth.
Mary’s apparition in Garabandal mentions purgatory when one of the seers asked Mary about two girls that died in the village. Mary answered saying that the youngest girl is in heaven and the older girl is in purgatory.
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Mary’s apparition in Garabandal , Fatima, and Guadalupe all contain false beliefs that puts Mary where she was never to be. The apparitions tend to put Mary in as healer, savior, and coredemptrix with Jesus and that is in direct conflict with John 14:6 and sound biblical teaching.
I think Jesus also talks about purgatory in Matthew 5:20-26 when he said "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26 Truly I tell you, *you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.* " I believe this implies finite punishment, but I would like to hear scholars opinions on this.
very clear that purgatory was not mentioned in John 5 : 20-26 Our Lord Jesus Christ talking to a jewish listeners about their offerings at the altar , And we shouldn't leave until we get the forgiveness of our adversary...
@@imelda8890can someone please pray for me. I need to GET BACK I was born again and fuss I don’t want to stay this way. It’s disgusting and awful. God blessed me and I was not thinking I want to be BETTER AND NOT WORST
As a new convert from Protestant to Catholic, one of the topics I've struggled with the most is that of purgatory. I've read some books, but they don't really answer the question clearly, providing a thesis first then fumbling about to provide scriptures hear and there to support the thesis, leaving one with the sense that they are arguing a point versus teaching a truth. This video by Pitre (please write a book on the topic) provided me with a very clear, Biblical explanation for the reality of purgatory. Thank you.
Todd I hope you are reading the context of every verse given as some proof of purgatory. Read the context of 1 Cor 6: and then notice that the justification, sanctification and washing, in verse 11, is all past tense, as in already done , so we know from Revelation that no unclean thing will enter heaven and Jesus has done absolutely everything to make you clean already before you die . Purgatory denies the full payment for ALL sins that Jesus accomplished on the cross. There is absolutely nothing you can do to merit God's acceptance on your own . If you can by all means point out the scripture that says anything close to it.
There are lots of RUclips videos about Church mystics who have seen purgatory in visions, who have been taken there by their guardian angels and who have been visited by the Holy Souls to ask for prayers. There’s also a Museum of the Holy Souls of Purgatory in Rome with artifacts scorched by the Holy Souls. The display consists of one large glass-enclosed case in a small room adjoining the sacristy of the Parish of the Sacred Heart in Prati, Italy. Jesus sent Fostina to visit Purgatory with her guardian angel. She heard the Lord say, My mercy does not want this, but justice demands it." The Holy Souls are suffering and it is our job as the Church Militant to relieve it. We gain their release by offering prayers for them throughout the day. Jesus. Jesus meek and humble of heart make my heart like unto Yours. My Lord and my God. This is just a few of the prayers we can offer for their release. Praying for the Holy Souls covers all the works of mercy (Matthew 25 judgement scriptures) and the commandment to love thy neighbor as thyself.
Todd, keep this thought on the back burner. Did Jesus leaves us a a visible authoritative earthly authority to guide us until His return? Once you can except that, the other puzzle pieces will start falling in place. You may not completely understand a teaching but you will be able to accept it. God bless.
St. Faustina writes in her diary about visiting purgatory. [The next night] I saw my Guardian Angel, who ordered me to follow him. In a moment I was in a misty place full of fire in which there was a great crowd of suffering souls. They were praying fervently, but to no avail, for themselves; only we can come to their aid. The flames which were burning them did not touch me at all. My Guardian Angel did not leave me for an instant. I asked these souls what their greatest suffering was. They answered me in one voice that their greatest torment was longing for God. I saw Our Lady visiting the souls in PURGATORY. The souls call her “The Star of the Sea.” She brings them refreshment. I wanted to talk with them some more, but my Guardian Angel beckoned me to leave. We went out of that prison of suffering. [I heard an interior voice] which said, My mercy does not want this, but justice demands it. Since that time, I am in closer communion with the suffering souls. (Diary, 20) She called it a prison of suffering. Jesus speaks about prison. You won’t get out until you have paid the last penny. You don’t get out of hell.
Todd, even though I, a Catholic myself, clearly see Purgatory in Scripture, one thing we converts tend to keep coming back to is 'where's that in the Bible '? We have to remind ourselves that, while our Protestant brethren are a faith of Scripture slone, we as Catholics are a faith of Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium. Therefore, we hold the 'complete' faith handed down. Paul stated this when he said 'hold fast to the traditions we have taught you whether oral or written'. So, for us, everything does not have to be in Scripture though nothing we believe goes against Scripture. God bless.
The visionary from Kibeho Rwanda was shown by our Lady one peaceful place where people were singing, one place where people were in pain and another one where people were in pain, but not as the first one. The visionary asked our Lady if she could see people who were singing and she told her she couldn't see them as longer as she was still on earth.
CONFLICT BETWEEN TWO AUTHORITIES: THE POPE'S AND THE BIBLE'S This is the main cause of differences in beliefs & practices between the Catholics and the Reformed Churches (Protestants). The SCRIPTURES are the writings of God's prophets and of the writings of Christ's Apostles and Disciples. The BIBLE is the collection of scriptures, the WORDS OF GOD. MISINTERPRETATION of the scriptures are also a notable cause of divergence in beliefs within the Christian community. "SOLA SCRIPTURA" is a Protestant doctrine, which asserts that the scriptures alone are the sole authority on Christian theology and practice. But where else can we get our correct instructions and guidance on Christian faith other than from the Holy Spirit-inspired writings of Christ's personal witnesses? CHRISTIANITY relies solely on the Apostles' and Disciples' writings for its existence -- otherwise, it's not Christianity. The HRCC is not true Christianity because of its heavy reliance on its nonscriptural doctrines.
Thanks so much Dr Pitre and Catholic Productions!! As someone who just entered into the Church at the Easter vigil this year, from a non-catholic christian background, I'm learning so much from your clear, concise and scholarly videos!!
You guys have no idea how hard i (Catholic) had tried to convince people that purgatory exist. Seeing and hearing this increase my intelligence on arguing other religion.
Man, I was so convinced before that it didn't exist but when this was now revealed to me, defintely made me rethink about it. There is so much to learn and seems like I just seen only the tip. Thank you for sharing this.
And it still does not exist. This explanation is misusing parables to make non-related conclusions. Purgatory is being read in the parables that does not even come near to the nature and purpose of what the Church decided to call purgatory.
@@Nolongeraslave be careful with that kind of mindset, my friend. Just because we couldn't prove it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I learned this lesson the hard way and just want to share it with you out of love and compassion for being in the same state as you before.
@@Nolongeraslave a lesson about not jumping into conclusion without being certain. I didn't but it was someone so dear to me who already passed away and 2 other people who I personally know.
@@lelouchvibritannia2327 So you conviction came from a relative and other people who experienced purgatory fires testimonies? Where they "cleansed" afterwards?
When I was younger, teenage boy, I go to mass every day, often twice a day and remember well we learn about purgatory by these verse oftenly. I took it for granted because there are not many protestants around in the country I grew up to challenge our Catholic teaching. I think as a Catholic, a Christian we need to be equipped well with these knowledge so that we won't get weaken religiously. Now I feel I was lucky to have great Bible teachers, couples of them are Franciscan theologians still teaching in universities now.
Fantastic explanation, concise and erudite. I wish some of our Catholic priests see this video and shout it out from the pulpits. Woe, to my protestant brothers and sisters who do not believe in God's last Mercy, Purgatory is a temperance of Divine Justice through Divine Mercy.
@@retard6477Then why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started. If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
@@retard6477 exactly it's from the pit of Hell it's not in the Holy scriptures Jesus washes away our sins completely with his precious blood the moment we put our faith in him and his finished work on the cross He makes us a new creation and gives us a new❤😊 it's that simple
After the first 5 minutes I was like: what are you talking about, I came to hear about purgatory... Am glad I was patient until the end because is was a beautiful explanation after all. Thanks.
@@jarrahe the Assumption of Mary never happened . You will find the first reference to the assumption of Mary around 280-320 AD and it was supposed to be witnessed by all of Jerusalem and yet the new testament writers did not record such an important event?? In the new testament you have 20 verses that reference Mary by name and not one of those verses show Mary to be anything more than the mother of Jesus her firstborn and her other sons and daughters. No one I know is downplaying Mary , she is the mother of Jesus who happens to be the savior of the entire world.
@@jarrahe Always good to use the phrase " can be seen very clearly from the scriptures alone, " and then not provide any evidence whatsoever.Matthew and Mark both record the children of Mary . Perpetual virgin? When you have a hymen and it is broken during childbirth and you then have sex with your husband and have other children you tend to be NOT a virgin anymore. Mary was born as a sinner just like everyone else. She was not pure and she was born under the law that we are born under. she was a perpetual virgin who had no children besides Jesus There is no verse in scripture to have any basis for believing this . You find this teaching in the Catholic church not in the bible.
@@jarrahe I have a glass of water , it is full to the brim to the point of overflowing . You are telling me that 1. Mary was full of the Holy Spirit and there was no possible way that she would be a sinful person. 2.Whereas Jesus was born without sin it follows that His mother must be without sin and that would mean that Mary's mother would be without sin as well. How far back must you go, with being born without sin, to not compromise the birth of Jesus? My glass of water being as full as possible is still a glass , and the fact it is full to the point of spilling does not make it not a glass anymore. Romans 3:23 tells me that God used Mary just as He uses others to perform His works. Show me in scriptures where Mary is alluded to in being without sin? Hints in the old or new testament ? Where did the early church fathers get their inspiration to call Mary the immaculate conception? Did the early church fathers believe the world to be the center of the universe? Mary is the mother of Christians (John 19:27) Who did Jesus give His mother to? That's right He gave His mother to John the disciple, not the world . That is a great interpretation that somehow Mary is the mother of us all but the entire new testament is about the work of Jesus and the new testament writers devote 20 verses referencing Mary without any of those verses stating anything more than she was the mother of Jesus her firstborn.
@Michel Martinez You are correct there is no passage that indicates bible alone . 2 Tim 3:15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. This of course relates to the old testament which is what Peter had to work with when he got up to preach at Pentecost. Jesus founded a church ,not a book is also correct . Jesus wrote the scriptures and 2 Timothy points out what those scriptures are for. The church has not remained faithful to the scriptures over time and has brought in doctrines that are false and misleading to the common person. The church encompasses the Catholic church and the protestant church as a group as you will not find anywhere in all of scripture any name attached to the believers to say they are better or more spiritual than the other. So Jesus founded the church with teaching authority ,and can you point out what church that is ? You are taught that it is the Catholic church and protestants are taught it is the protestant church, so just where does one find the truth ? Maybe that good ole guy named Paul telling Timothy what the scriptures are for, could be an indication of what the church should be believing and teaching ,without adding to it.
Geovanny Fajardo There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory: Luke 12:35-47 35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” 41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?” 42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in Luke 12:1-2: 1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known. Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57. Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36. Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ. There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you. God bless you all.
@@generalnwankwo8689 Read the scriptures in context with every verse given to you as proof of purgatory and you will see for yourself that purgatory denies the finished work of Christ on the cross, who died for all of our sins and when we do sin Jesus is there for us, keeping His righteousness as a shield over us. 1 John 2:1,2 Everything we do as believers is through faith , and any works we do in faith does not get us any closer to God . roman Catholic church has the CCC CCC 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire: reference given 1 Cor 3:15 Context starts in verse 11 ! read what it says about purgatory and look at the verse presented , Now read the context and you see that sin is not in question at all , repentance of sin is not in question at all, purification from sin is not in question at all, stain of sin is not in question at all. No one is punished , no one is tortured , no one is barred from heaven, no one suffers pain they do suffer loss of what they could have had . No one is burnt so what is burnt? 1031 goes hand in hand with 1032 prayers for the dead and the quote from Maccabee's 12: is again ripped from context . As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come. Well does Matthew 12:31,32 actually say that sin will be forgiven in the age to come? 31:And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32:Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Do you see the emphasis on the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and not on forgiveness of sins? but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. That means no forgiveness now or ever and it is not talking about sins , it is talking about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit! So READ the CONTEXT and prove to yourself that what you believe is correct. has the holy spirit revealed all this to you ? Paul tells Timothy that EVERYTHING he needs to be THOROUGHLY equipped is found in the scriptures. As there is no contradiction between the old testament and the new testament we can look to God's word with confidence for what God wants us to know. The Holy Spirit reveals God's word to us as we read it. However we need to read it in context not in cherry picking season.
No one can enter heaven unless we are spotless clean.Completely cleansed from all our worldly sins. Not one of us are righteous.The grace of god by faith saves us.🙏
Romans is clear that Christ did it all and apart from him nothing else is needed his death was all sufficient. We will never be cleansed 100% and is not a requirement for entering the kingdom: Romans 5: 6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die- 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Isaiah 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed.
The ideation of purgatory in the Bible can't get any clearer than that. Thank you, Brent, and may you continually be blessed by the gifts of the Holy Spirit for your works of evangelization. And may God protect and bless you and your loved ones more.🙏
I wish this was the whole video instead of a clip. I think you’re right Jesus is talking about purgatory here. Being Catholic Christians we grow up understanding that purgatory exists. The classic go to Bible verse is 1 Corr 3:15, “he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.” but read the Chapter for context. Most of us have some attachment to sin so our souls must be cleansed, temporal punishment, Lk 12:59, 1 Pet 1:7, Mt 5:25-26 before we can enter into heaven. Rev 21:27. It’s like I can be forgiven for speeding but I have to do the time or pay the fine. I always wondered about all of Luke 12 not just the verses you talk about here because of the last sentence Jesus says, verse 59 “I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper” which seems to fit the concept of purgatory well. Great video Dr. Petrie.
I don't believe in purgatory, because I believe Jesus died for our sins, and no other action is necessary or possible on our part in order for us to enter Heaven. But I was interested in the Catholics thoughts on Biblical support for it. I tried 1 Corr 3:15, but there is no indication what is being discussed is after a person dies. It seems much more clear that Paul is preaching about people's faith is like a building, and that when trials come, poorly built buildings will be destroyed, but buildings that are built well will survive. For instance, when the Romans were persecuting Christians, a person with weak faith would agree to worship Caesar- their faith burns up in the fire of persecution. Similarly, Luke 12:59 isn't talking about after death, it's advice for Christians to settle their debts and reconcile with enemies in this life. Most of your other verses are similar, it's a stretch to try and read anything about purgatory in them when a much simpler explanation is available. Revelation 21:27: Nothing impure shall enter the Kingdom, yes, but we are made pure in the blood of the Lamb, are we not? No celestial torture is necessary. It would be nice if Catholics could point to just one verse where Jesus or one of the apostles said clearly, "Even those who believe shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven until they first pass through a period of purging of their sins..." But it doesn't exist. Not one verse. It makes me wonder if purgatory is true, why not make it a little more clear?
Absolutely amazing. I am catholic, but I never knew if I should believe in Purgatory or not, but now after watching your video it all makes absolute sense! Thank you much for your wisdom.🙏🏻
Why watching a video? You are supposed to reference the Gospel and the Apostolic doctrine JESUS GAVE His apostles. Not a man made catechism and NOT A VIDEO LORD please 🤦
What I know when Jesus went to hell is to pick up the souls ho died before he died to bring them to heaven . I am to understand that Jesus have to open heaven. Since Adam never commuted the sin after eating the fruit of the forbidden tree n paradise was closed . So not even the the profets like Moses n othors were at the bosom of Abraham n waited for heaven . Is that correct for my grand children ask question re Jesus went to hell on the 3rd day pls. Tell me if I was wrong . So I will not tell that to any person again. Thank u very much. Mrs. c. Godoy
I just want to say thank you Dr. Brant for helping me through a very difficult time. I learn a lot about Holy Scripture from your videos and I am glad that I found your channel.
@@John3_16_ humble yourself before God because without faith it's impossible to please God, Dr. Pitre has taught you about purgatory from the Bible, humble yourself.
@James Reacts nice straw-man. I believe everything that is essential. I’m a sinner, maybe more so than you are. I need a savior. Jesus was sinless and died for my sins. I’ve put my faith in him and turn from sins that have become apparent in my life. No amount of groveling, church attendance, communion, praying to saints/Mary, confession or anything else can prove to god that I deserve entrance to heaven because I don’t deserve it. I deserve to be sent straight to hell just as you do. No where does the bible speak of a place that describes purgatory or the need to be there. If god happened to send me there, I wouldn’t have an issue with it so I don’t get your point anyways lol. The only reason you believe in it is because some “scholar/figure-head” engrained the belief in you through indoctrination. Similarly to the other Catholic sacraments that are man-made and passed down akin to the Talmud the Jews passed down. On the other hand, I can read the book myself while I attend a solid church to help reach the best conclusions instead of relying on centuries of man made beliefs/indoctrination. Yes, I know all about the books removed from the scriptures. Can you please explain what they have to do with my salvation? I’m waiting to hear how they are going to change my life. 🙂
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
The bible never makes any mention about a purgatory. This false doctrine is from the Roman Catholic cult. Not from the word of truth. Salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ alone! And Jesus saved perfectly and eternally. The apostle John wrote in his gospel, in chapter 3, verse 16, that God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever believe in Him, shall not perish but have everlasting life. There is no mention of any purgatory in the bible! Don't ever believe that lie from the RCC. Jesus loves you so much, that He died for you, theresamt. And if you believe in Him, you are saved right now, as apostle John already wrote. Apostle Paul also wrote in Ephesians chapter 2, verses 8,9: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. So, salvation is a gift from God, because he loved you so much, that Jesus went to the cross for your salvation and eternal life with Him in Heaven. Believe and be saved forever, theresamt
@@donaldgodin3491Then what do the last two servants of the parable in Luke 12 imply if it is not purgatory? I am skeptical on purgatory but Luke 12:42-48 has a strong case for it.
@@lowballinn Purgatory is impossible, because when a person dies, that person is already saved by faith in Christ (John 3:16) or lost without Christ. In Luke's gospel, chapter 12, Jesus is speaking to people under the law of Moses. Nobody was saved by grace through faith, in those days. Every Jew was under the law, and was saved by following the law. When Jesus died and resurrected, He established a new covenant through apostle Paul, by revealing to Paul, salvation by grace through faith, as it is written in Ephesians 2;8,9. Read it! So, salvation in the church age, is not by works plus faith! It is by grace (a gift) though faith in Christ Jesus's blood for the forgiveness of all our sins. The gospel by which we are saved today is clearly mentioned by apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 15;1-4. Read it and see by yourself how a person is saved under the New Covenant. It is by faith alone! So, the purgatory doctrine is a false doctrine from Roman Catholicism, to keep you from the truth taught in the bible. Never trust Roman Catholicism for the truth. There is no truth in there! Believe me. Believe in Christ as your personal Savior, and be saved right now and forever, according to God's promise in John 3;16. There is no purgatory in the bible. Only Heaven and Hell. And when someone is in Hell, he will never get out of there. Never!
I wonder if Matthew 5:30 is also a reference to purgatory, because Jesus says, "if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away" in reference to the cutting off of all earthly desires to be with God in Heaven.
I took that line literally and now have no left foot 😅 But in all seriousness I'm not that smart, thank you for explaining.. it makes sense now, casting away the flesh.
Pina Mawya you are right to become a student of God’s word. Jesus said man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the word of God. Matthew 4:4. If we are eating breakfast ,dinner and supper and not feasting on Gods word then we are on a bad diet.Luke 23:34-44 tells us how the thief next to Jesus received his free gift of forgiveness and salvation and eternal. John 3:16 shows us clearly that when we believe in Jesus we get total forgiveness of sins.. Call on Jesus now and receive your free gift of forgiveness and salvation
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Thank you Seth. I think you misunderstood what I meant. My desire to be a Bible scholar doesn't mean I do not read God's word regularly. I attend Mass as often as I can and when I have some time, I read the Bible on my own. What I meant is to be like Dr. Pitre and the good folks over at EWTN (Fr. Mitch Pacwa), Catholic Answers etc. These are people who have dedicated their lives into studying the Bible and its roots. For example, Dr. Pitre has explained so well the doctrine of Purgatory, which most protestants (if not all) deny. Just because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible, doesn't mean it's not true. In the explanation, he also briefly explained the papacy, again, another misunderstood topic by protestants. That's what I meant. To be able to see the Bible in its entirety, to be able to read it in the language it was originally written in because that at times helps clarify some things which we, as modern day people, may not understand.
Pina Mawya what dis Jesus say ? I was encouraging you to read God’s word as Jesus told us. If you are eating a breakfast,dinner and supper everyday and not studying God’s word then you are on a bad diet.Matthew. 4:4 Jesus said Come to Me. You are never told to come to mass Come to me all of you and I will give you rest Mt 11:28. The only thing that matters is that you have received your free gift of forgiveness and salvation like the thief on the cross next to Jesus Luke 23:34-44. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus will have the free gift of eternal life and salvation. Romans 10:9-13.. We all need a savior or else we are lost. Call on Jesus right now and have life eternal
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Yes, Seth, you are right. In Matthew 4:4 Jesus did say, "One does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God" but He does not say that that is our sustenance. Jesus commands us on what to eat in John 6. Allow me to quote some verses as you have quoted some. John 6:51, "I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever, and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world." John 6:53-56, "...unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Our Blessed Lord clearly stipulates what we are to eat. My question to you is, do you follow His commands or do you follow what you twist His words to mean?
@@peterzinya407Thats not how it is at all and you're screwed if you think you can get away with being a bad person but "bElIevE". All the Church Fathers rejected the idea of faith alone
Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father..., Exodus 20 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." I was a Catholic, then I read the Bible. Now I'm a Christian.
@@johnnydirect7815 No, you're a heretic whose reading the Bible literally when Jesus spoke in parables and the OT utilizes symbolism. Read it again but from the 1st century Jewish perspective. Then it'll make sense
@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 what? It states in the Bible they will be judged by the written law in their hearts. "Gentiles who do not have the law keep it as by instinct, these men although without the law serve as law for themselves. They show that the demands of the law are written in their hearts. Their conscience bears witness together with that law, and their thoughts will accuse or defend them on the day when in accordance with the gospel I preach God will pass judgment on the secrets of men through Jesus Christ." Theres other areas stating men cannot be judged according to what they do not know or do not have reference to. Your statement is sketchy
@@theparadigmshift74 i believe that the grace of God will appear to all men titus 2:11 and that there are people with good morals following God’s moral ways of life but they are still sinners and can still reject him even though living moral lives. Anything good that they do comes from the creator anyways and reject him means that they will be separated from him but when judged they will probably suffer a few blows since they by nature didn’t harm people.
@@theparadigmshift74 The context is that "good men" who keep the law by instinct will have thoughts that either accuse or defend them, when they hear the gospel that Paul preached. The verse isn't saying that "good men" who don't believe in Jesus, yet keep the law by instinct will inherit eternal life. Your statement is sketchy as well.
Ave Christus Rex this judgment seat is for rewards. We will rule and reign with Jesus. If you lead people to Jesus you will get rewards and if you give a cup of water for Jesus sake you get rewarded.. The great white throne judgment is total destruction as no one can stand before a Holy God and live that’s why we all need Jesus as our advocate or substitute.
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 The passages says not "reward" but "recompensed" or "dealt what is appropriate to the circumstances" The same principle of "reward" is the very same as "punishment." It is not a different principle for both, since Christ is the same who gratuitously allows reward, and accepts the offerings of restitution by His fallen brothers-both of which, without Christ, would be impossible and unjust, and missing the mark: it is the same gracious Christ who has been pleased to reward good that allows us to make up for the dishonor we cause God when we sin-dishonor which is not repaired by Christ Himself personally-He dealt with our forgiveness but leaves such restitution to God's honor up to the individual who will have himself saved. Forgiveness of sins and the restitution for that forgiven sin are distinct in Holy Scripture. David was forgiven his sin but it cost him something less than the sin-a payment owed to God's honor which he had stolen from by sin. Purgatory is the name we gave to Christ's "Last penny" doctrine which I have described above. God bless.
@@Wgaither1 How do you know? He didn't go to heaven. Even Jesus wouldn't go there. He went to spirits in prison, i.e. Abraham's Bosom, or the realm of the dead.
Thanks for the elucidation, Dr Pitre. But I think that our judicial system proves Purgatory too: every crime is punishable but all crimes do not command the same punishment. While some send you to life imprisonment, others send you to mere correctional facilities or even to the hospital. Am I wrong in thinking this way?
And none of those crimes are paid for after death! All the judicial system can do is punish you as you live. There is no verse saying the believer is punished for sins after they die.
@@bobloblawb2593 So are you saying that in our current condition, that is unholy, we can enter into Heaven (where nothing that is difiled or unholy cannot enter in).
@@clowney28 no I am not saying that at all. You need to realize that you are a three part person . Flesh , which does not inherit the kingdom of God 1 Cor 15:50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. you have a mind will and emotions comprising your soul Ezekiel 18:20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him.21 But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. and you have a spirit . We were not created in the image of God we were created in the image of Adam , Adam was created in the image of God. Gen 5:1-3 Notice that Adam had children in his image! We are born spiritually dead and it is by the Lords grace we can be born again. Our spirits become alive . Physically we are unholy, spiritually we are pure. So as flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of God, our spirits born again by the power of God ,do. Eph 2:5-8 notice that even though we are sinners ,Christ does what with us? There is absolutely nothing we can do to make ourselves clean enough for heaven. Thanks to Christ dying on the cross for every sin I have done , am doing , or will do. 1 John2:1,2 Jesus knows that we are not heaven material ,but still died for us to make us clean .
There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory: Luke 12:35-47 35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” 41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?” 42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in Luke 12:1-2: 1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known. Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57. Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36. Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ. There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you. God bless you all.
@@bobloblawb2593 "Thanks to Christ dying on the cross for every sin I have done , am doing , or will do..." That's exactly the point. You had said it yourself that we keep on committing sin. Provided that our sin is light, there must be a cleansing process before we can enter The Kingdom of God since there in Heaven, there is no uncleanliness.
I do want to ask tho, if our deeds were the basis of salvation then why did Christ have to die? (This is the very question paul had answered somewhere in romans)
Also if christians were punished on the day of Christs return would they even be considered to be saved in the first place? I dont exactly remember where but there is a passage that talks about a shepherd separating goats and sheep, the goats I think were outcasted and the sheeps were accepted by the shepherd. This separation is absolute, and never once did it mention that there were imperfect sheep that had to be separated from the perfect ones
Maximilian Caealot keep up the good work? Gehenna was just outside of the city walls of Jerusalem and poor people who didn't have the money to bury Thier dead would throw body's on to the heap if you check the Hebrew meaning of Gehenna it just means place of the dead I pray for these people who think they are smart but they are actually stupid
Maximilian Caealot you stiff neaked fool's that's you modern day Pharisees with your stupid religious order that's what you are I know alot about your church I was fooled by it for long enough but thank God in heaven he illuminated the truth to me through scripture Jesus Christ said you must be born again to inherit the kingdom of God and Catholics aren't born again you don't even know what it means to be born again so who are you going to listen to the Catholic church or Jesus Christ
@@thomascaulfieldder3452 I had the same hate you have. Then I studied for a year or so and went through RCIA. I learned a lot and I realised that despite what people say... they don't hate the Catholic Church. They hate what they think the Catholic Church is. I suggest to you, study the Church from both Catholic and Protestant resources. If you only study the hater's perspective... You'll only see what they want you to. I don't think you understand what you claim to hate. Regardless, peace be with you and I do hope you come to the fullness of the Faith.
In my understanding, the idea of purgatory is base on the belief of the immortality of the soul. It is CONTRARY to what it says in Ecclesiastes 9:5 "the dead know nothing..." GOD said in Gen 2:17 “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall SURELY DIE.” But the SERPENT said in Gen 3:4 “Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will NOT surely die.” This verse that originated from the Devil is not recognized by MANY Christians. The bible is very clear that the wages of sin is DEATH. (Rom 6:23). We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ who died on the cross as our substitute. If we want to be purified(sanctified), we need to do it while we still ALIVE on this earth. NEVER in the bible said the sanctification is the CAUSED of our salvation, but it is the FRUIT of our salvation. We are justified by HIS blood ( Rom 5:9) and sanctified by HIS SPIRIT (2 Cor 3:18.). We need to understand what is SIN: Action/ deed/ behavior Character ( thought and feeling) Our sinful nature (old man) The solution to our sin problems: Penalty of sin ====> justification by His blood Power of sin ====> sanctification by His Spirit Sinful nature (old man) ====> glorification in His second coming (1 Cor 15:52) How can we believe that God of love created HELL for eternal torment (punishment)? Can you be happy in heaven if you know one of your children, brother/sister, parent, or any of your friend go to hell and be there forever? OUR righteousness is ONLY in Jesus Christ.HIS death is our SUBSTITUTE and His life is our EXAMPLE. Do NOT put your destiny on Satan lied, believing to the immortality of the soul and purgatory. Let us prepare our heart and life to His second coming that will take place very SOON. Accept Him as your personal SAVIOR and your LORD. Amen.
You are a heretic that has no idea what you are talking about, and there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Purgatory Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven." 2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.". Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing. Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come. (NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.) Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts. Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt. Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. " Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life. 1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire. Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire." 1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: (NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
@@eskimoman000 I don’t have much time but please pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you in your study. In the book of Peter and Corinthians, the authors gave metaphor as our faith is tested by trial so as the gold is tried/purified by fire.). You can not exchange this: we are tested by fire and the gold is tested by trial. It will make no sense. The bottom line is that all our trials/tests need to be done BEFORE Christ appearing (His second coming). (1 Peter 1:17) Regarding the “Spirits that were in prison”. Noah was the righteous man who preached for 120 years as “REPRESENTATIVE” of Christ. But no one believe that except 8 peoples who enter the ark. The Spirits in prison was ALL the people who were in bondage of sin AT THE TIME of Noah. Check the video above at 12:05 - 12:17. This sentence is the MOST deception and contrary to the bible. We are not saved by our deed but by grace through faith in the blood/sacrifice of our Lord. Our righteousness is in HIM not in ourself. The wages of sin (regardless small or big) is DEAD. (Romans 6:23). God bless you!
@@imandanpenurutan The Holy Spirit guided me to the Holy Catholic Church, and has given me the gifts of knowledge and discernment. My faith has been tested ever since my first Holy Communion, 1 Corinthians 3 is referring to Purgatory:- [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire. So it states here that even if he shall suffer loss, he himself will be saved yet so as by fire. He is forgiven, but he has to pay the price for his loss in sin. Most of the scriptures do not make sense to us in this age, but only the infallible Magisterium, and infallible Sacred Apostolic Tradition of the Church can make sense of the scriptures that the Church canonised in the first place. You cannot teach me what the scriptures mean if you do not know, as private interpretation of them is forbidden without guidance from the Church. Noah was not a representative of Christ at all, but the Ark is a representative of the Catholic Church as the only means of salvation. The spirits that were in prison are those who had not been judged yet. They were preached to and judged by Christ before He resurrected from the dead. This text is evidence of a third place outside of Heaven and hell which you cannot deny. Your whole religion is contrary to the Bible, and I doubt that you even have an authentic Bible anyway. How could you possibly know what an authentic true Bible is when there are that many versions going around? Yes, we need the Grace of God to be saved, we have to have the TRUE FAITH (Catholic), the Blood sacrifice of Our Lord only opened the door to forgiveness, and we have to “WORK” for our salvation in fear and trembling. Matthew 5:16: [16] So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven. John 14:12: [12] Otherwise believe for the very works' sake. Amen, amen I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do, he also shall do; and greater than these shall he do. Romans 2:6: [6] Who will render to every man according to his works. Colossians 1:9-10: [9] Therefore we also, from the day that we heard it, cease not to pray for you, and to beg that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will, in all wisdom, and spiritual understanding: [10] That you may walk worthy of God, in all things pleasing; being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God: James 2:24-26: [24] Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? [25] And in like manner also Rahab the harlot, was not she justified by works, receiving the messengers, and sending them out another way? [26] For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead. Revelation 20:12-13: [12] And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works. Philippians 2:12: [12] Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation. (**NOTES - [12] "With fear": This is against the false faith, and presumptuous security of modern sectaries. People will be judged by what they had done, rather than in what they said they believed. "Not everyone who says Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father", Matthew 7:21)
As a Catholic who grew up with Baltimore Catechism and nuns (a long, long time ago!), I never had it explained that purgatory is a Biblical teaching. I'm amazed. Every Catholic, child or adult, should know this in order to speak believably to our non-Catholic sisters and brothers.
I’m not impressed at all by this flimsy “argument”. Scripture really has to be stretched and twisted around to fit the (false) doctrine of purgatory. It’s abominable to think that our works and indulgences can lessen our time in purgatory or have anything to do with our salvation. This is all a huge scam made up by RCC to extort money from people. Jesus’ sacrifice was ENOUGH We are saved by Grace through faith in Him It’s really that simple. The Bible makes it abundantly clear. The father of lies is behind this doctrine. Don’t fall for his seductive lies. Keep your eyes on Jesus ✝️
@@christopherbayne9061 Yeah it's always such a big reach. An extreme interpretation of something that they claim is "clear", but is absolutely not. Which is why they're really the only sect that believes it.
Thank you for this teaching. I appreciate that there are many spiritual places unaccounted for in Protestantism. As I deal with Protestants whose churches are too far removed in history from the historic churches (Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodoxies) I try to wake them to this point by reading a passage such as Peter where he tells of Christ preaching to the souls held in prison since the time of Noah. When I ask them where these people were held, since Christ went and preached the Gospel to them, they have no clue. Or I show them the Greek words Hades and Tartarus and ask why these are so different, but both translated as Hell. What frustrates me is that these Protestants more often than not think they know everything in the Bible, but they really are quite ignorant about the depth of knowledge in Scripture. I know, because I was like that. Now I hold what I know with an open palm so that as I read and study prayerfully and humbly the Sacred Scriptures of God I can allow Him to replace or add to my learning. That happens also from your short videos like this one. This is a valuable teaching. Thank you again.
@@caitlinsoliman1658 No. There were no "watchers" and Jesus never told us to "watch". I am a Biblical Greek scholar and i will tell you that it says stay awake, not watch. It is in contrast with sleeping, not with inattention. Paul makes exactly the same contrast, but your translators of the English Bible made exactly the same mistake because they did not consult the etymology. And you bunch of hooligans gang about acting like you know what you are exactly ignorant of. Jude calls this behavior that of false teachers. Repent of your ungodly behavior.
Agree. Grew up Baptist and never felt I knew Jesus or that those teaching about Him knew either. As an adult converted to Catholicism and that's where my knowledge of Jesus and the Bible took hold and started to form me to true Christianity 💗
I like his interpretation of this portion of the bible. Yet he himself said Purgatory is something that was later developed in Church doctrine. Nothing in the bible speaks of purgatory. When Christ dies and said it is finished.....He dies for all sin. That the sin of this world was paid. Remeber the thief on the right was truthful about his sin, Christ says to him " today you will be with me in paradise"! Its important to delineate God inspired scripture from Church doctrine translated and inspired by men!
but the paradise is not the heaven. Jesus said today, you will be with me in the paradise but that day, jesus did not went to heaven. He went to the place of the dead to have a sermon so that the souls there can be saved. That is purgatory
Just like the trinity, it was also later developed in the church doctrine. It was not revealed at one time. The early christians studied the scriptures thoroughly and that takes them some time to realize what was the scriptures are telling.
@@nathanielfabular9981 There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory: Luke 12:35-47 35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” 41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?” 42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in Luke 12:1-2: 1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known. Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57. Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36. Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ. There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you. God bless you all.
Christ did NOT tell the thief on the cross that today he'd go to purgatory FIRST and THEN paradise. Christ said to the thief: TODAY you'll be with me IN PARADISE....😔🌼 🌼 In different scripture Holy Spirit said, TODAY if ye hear HIS voice, harden not your heart's. TODAY mean's: This Day!!!!
True, but maybe by that thief's suffering on his cross which Jesus could obviously relate to, and his full acceptance of his plight, he did his purgatory there and was made pure, as in he made full reparation for his sins there.
Actually Jesus did not tell the thief he will be in Paradise with him that same day; otherwise Jesus lied, because he went to his grave for three days and three nights. Besides nobody goes to Heaven after death (John 3:13). We are to wait in our grave (Acts 2:29) for our salvation (Luke 21:28) on the 2nd coming of Christ.
@Bloodhounder Who's The Holy Spirit "One" with 🤔. That's our gift from God The Father, be careful with Her. It's called Eternal Life for a purpose. I will obey the commandments and honor my Father and Mother. Viva Cristo Rey 😎
Tony G ask it in Jesus' name, dude. We will gonna be saved if we put our trust only to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There is no other name! God bless you.
@@darrenespinosa2640 Agreed. But, don't you think that Woman who is spoken about Crushing the serpent's head, just Might be the Queen Mother 🤔. Jesus Christ is the King and the Mother of the King is The Queen Mother.🤔 Dear Folks, She's right in front of You, and we have a Communion of Saint's who are Living in Eternal (LIFE), and they are All Praying for You and Me to Finish the Race. Just to remberize y'all's (IPOT)😁, We are The Victor's through The Cross. Viva Cristo Rey 😎
@Bloodhounder She's not a graven image, She is The Hand Picked Holy Mother of Jesus Christ our Salvation. Better be careful with how you speak of Her 🤔
Luke 12: has absolutely nothing to do with a man made doctrine of purgatory . Luke 12:21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.” is a direct tie in to 1 Cor 3:15 ,which is a favorite verse the Catholic church uses to justify their false doctrine. 1 Cor 3:11 tells you that you are building on a foundation , now correct me if I am wrong but you can not build anything with sin , so when you get to verse 15 you need to realize this has nothing to do with sin. The RCC would have you believe them, rather than what the scriptures teach. Dr Pitre has accepted and teaches what he has been taught . I just do not see Dr. Pitre acknowledging that the Lord has fulfilled the law and saved us from all of our sins , and because of this we have the privilege of being with God in eternity by His son's sacrifice on the cross. If Jesus did not die on the cross for all of our sins then what is it that we can do to make ourselves good enough to merit God's love? Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Luke 12:21 is not good works.
Christ's death on the cross is like a "lead by example", whereas if He did not die on the cross for our sins, it would be more of a "do as I say, not as I do", which yields horrible results. His death on the cross was love acted out, perfected, the example we are meant to follow. We have God given freewill. I know it's hard to believe, but some people choose to reject God, just like Lucifer. You don't get to be a horrible person and still go to heaven.
Nick K Nice try, but no cigar .Behold The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. He took our place for us when went to the cross and bore our sins in His body on the cross so we are now made righteous before our Father in heaven.
Sounds a bit like sola scriptura. The usual definition includes allusions to attaining salvation only through sola scriptura and also words bordering on literal reading of the scripture words. This inevitably leads to fundamentalism in many denominations, which is false theology. The concept of scriptural authority is alien to many of the (yes, upwards of 38000) non-Catholic denominations, and this is a shame. Congregants who meet in such sole church groups and try to ascertain what is a correct meaning from scriptural writings borders on imprudence. It is fine to read the scriptures, meditate on them, but for what their true lessons and rules and truths are I rely on the authority and magisterium of the church, which is guided by the Holy Spirit, even though I can take away my own personal lessons also. Think about what the church has gleaned from the scriptures no "average" congregant ever could: - Mary, and the Immaculate Conception - venerate though not worship her, and follow her preaching in her appearances such as Lourdes and Fatima. Mary is the new ark of the covenant. - The Communion of Saints - we have confirmed that we know of over 250 saints whose bodies are incorrupt - not decaying - hundreds of years after their deaths. Many are visible for veneration, under glass, as St. Bernadette from Lourdes. Their intercessions for us and those we pray for are demonstrably invaluable. Miracles defy explanation. - Purgtory - I rest easier know their is purgatory to mop up my imperfections. - Transubstantiation (not consubstantiation) - my ability to receive our Lord, literally. Jesus did not say, "This is the symbol of my body...…" Hundreds of instances of Catholic consecrated hosts turning into cardiac tissue with type AB blood is earth bound proof of transubstantiation. (BTW, type AB blood is the type on the Shroud of Turin.) - Finish this sentence from your scripture study: "You are Peter, and....." I am sure you can finish the rock language. Peter is present in every subsequent pope and I am thankful. They are NOT infallible in usual matters. If the pope said today that the sky is pink, then he's nuts and that will be addressed. We have had failed popes; face it, the Church is a divine yet human run institution. But, when he speaks ex-cathedra, regarding Church dogma, he is guided by the Holy Spirit and is infallible. And that has only been 2 or 3 times in 2 millennia. - Confession, or Reconciliation with a priest. In your scripture study, didn't Jesus say that what the Apostles bind on earth is bound in heaven and vice versa? Priests and Bishops are the direct follow up agents of the apostles, available to us, today! All of the above are not worshipped people or items instead of Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit, but each of the above provides paths for us to get to the Trinity, our salvation. I picture our various religions on earth as a model of the solar system. The sun is truth, God and heaven. Closest to the sun with many paths to it is the Roman Catholic Church. Nearby but a bit further is the Eastern Orthodox church. Further out are the churches not founded by Jesus but by men: Luther, Calvin, Wesley, King Henry VIII, all the way up to Osteen I suppose. The followers of these churches are good people and will get to heaven, but are just a little further away and have less help getting there. So, sola scriptura is incomplete, though scripture forms the basis of all Christianity, including Roman Catholicism. I am not a scriptural fundamentalist, and I do not interpret scripture. But the Church Magisterium has my back and defines dogma, from scripture, with an authority which 38000 other denominations lack. If St. Mother Theresa was the holiest person on earth and lived literal sola scriptura as the sole root of her faith, but did no good works for the poor, thousands of poor would have perished. Bad news! Christ said we are saved through good works also, and in this life that is obviously the right thing to do. Pray, (I recommend to St. Faustina) as well as to Mary for spiritual guidance, as well as any other saints, as well as Christ, and consider RCIA. You won't regret a minute of trying these.
@@garyworth6046 - Purgtory - I rest easier know their is purgatory to mop up my imperfections So Jesus who died on the cross for ALL OF YOUR SINS , missed a couple? If St. Mother Theresa was the holiest person on earth and lived literal sola scriptura as the sole root of her faith, but did no good works for the poor, thousands of poor would have perished. That seems to be the general extrapolation of Catholics against protestants , they think because we go by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross that somehow we spend our time sitting in coffee shops faithing. Ridiculous , we do good works because of what God has done in our lives and we do good works that God has given us to do .Eph 2:10 Pray, (I recommend to St. Faustina) as well as to Mary for spiritual guidance, as well as any other saints, as well as Christ, and consider RCIA. You won't regret a minute of trying these. So at what time do you find in scripture that St Faustina and Mary have now become able to hear and act on millions of prayers . God can and does but I have not seen a scripture anywhere that says God has given His power to anyone else?
The wisdom and works of God are so vast that we will never understand them all. I am a protestant but during prayer I have seen deceased friends in many strange areas like caverns, abyss;, underground, but always wanting water. I knew they were not in heaven but not in a burinng hell either. Was that purgatory? I don't know.
Heb 9:27 refutes purgatory, and Luke 16:26 refutes movement of the soul in hell to anywhere else. So what you envision is not a heavenly reward for the deceased.
Hi Dr Pitre...i hv been watching some of your teaching and got very impressed to know more abt a deeper meaning. I need to ask you abt what is the place that GOD stated to Moses in Deuteronomy 32:50 ? "You will die and be gathered to your people just as your brother Aaron..."? As Moses had trespassed against GOD. Is that also Purgatory ? Thank you so much 🤗
@Danny Ho You stated: "Hi Dr Pitre...i hv been watching some of your teaching and got very impressed to know more abt a deeper meaning. I need to ask you abt what is the place that GOD stated to Moses in Deuteronomy @ ? "You will die and be gathered to your people just as your brother Aaron..."? As Moses had trespassed against GOD. Is that also Purgatory ? Thank you so much 🤗" I would recommend the following article, "Sorting out Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, the Abode of the Just, and Hell What happened to Christ after He died?" (Catholic Bridge), because it has historical background as well as the Scriptures:: www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/sheol-hell-hades.php And this one as well: Did Sheol Become Gehenna After the Resurrection? (Catholic Answers): www.catholic.com/qa/did-sheol-become-gehenna-after-the-resurrection And this: The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC): PART ONE - THE PROFESSION OF FAITH - SECTION TWO - THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH - CHAPTER TWO - I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD - ARTICLE 5 - "HE DESCENDED INTO HELL. ON THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE AGAIN": www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p122a5p1.htm
I think is Sheol. The place that Jesus visited after he died on the cross before He resurrected on the third day. In the Sheol were all the prophets and God's followers waiting for Jesus to allow them to get into paradise with His resurrection because Jesus paid the price for salvation.
Giovanni Pagliari purgetory is not mentioned in the Bible he's just twisting scripture Jesus Christ said to Paul my grace is sufficient the gospel in the Hebrew meaning is good news getting purged after you die is not good news the gospel means we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone
@@generalnwankwo8689 Because the Catholics compiled the scriptures into the canon by the power of the Holy Spirit and have set out all the books that are God's word. Bible word not in bible is just a silly misdirection.
@@generalnwankwo8689 The word bible as you well know is not found in the bible nor is there any reference as to what books should or should not be in the canon of scripture. The Catholics inspired by the Holy Spirit compiled the scriptures into what we have now as the canon of scriptures and we call it the bible. BTW St.Jerome in the fifth century removed 7 books from the canon and placed them into reference for history only, as he felt they were not scriptural or sound doctrine . He was overruled by the church. Everything that we are to know and believe is in the scriptures that God wrote for us . 2 Tim 3:16,17 explains it very clearly. Indulgences and purgatory were brought into the churches teachings 1100-1200 years after the apostles died . There is no basis for indulgences or purgatory in the scriptures IF you read the context and not single out a verse only, to prove your point.
26And besides all this, a great chasm has been fixed between us and YOU, so that even those who wish cannot cross from here to you, nor can anyone cross from there to us. Matthew 5:25 Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while YOU are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26Truly I tell you, YOU will not get out until YOU have paid the last penny. Purgatory not only claims that Jesus did not completely deliver the world including you from sin 1 John 2:2 but that somehow someone else can pray you out of purgatory which Matthew 5 says you are responsible for getting yourself out. It has nothing to do with being dead . Jesus and the apostles never spoke about some fantasy place to clean yourselves before heaven , they did not ever claim that Jesus only died for most of your sins, and they always claimed that the spirit was separate from the body and the spirit being born again is what is required for salvation. We are created in the image of Adam we are not created in the image of God Gen 5:1-3 We repent of our sins and instantly ware placed in the heavenly realm to be with Jesus Eph 2:5-8 1 Cor 15:49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man. 50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory: Luke 12:35-47 35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” 41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?” 42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in Luke 12:1-2: 1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known. Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57. Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36. Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ. There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you. God bless you all.
Part 1: The Profession of Faith (26 - 1065) Section 2: The Profession of the Christian Faith (185 - 1065) Chapter 3: I Believe in the Holy Spirit (683 - 1065) Article 12: "I believe in life everlasting" (1020 - 1065) III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY ⇡ 1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. 606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire: 607 As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come. 608 606. Cf. Council of Florence (1439):DS 1304; Council of Trent (1563):DS 1820; (1547):1580; see also Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336):DS 1000. 607. Cf. 1 Cor 3:15; 1 Pet 1:7. 608. St. Gregory the Great, Dial. 4,39:PL 77,396; cf. Mt 12:31. Part 2: The Celebration of the Christian Mystery (1066 - 1690) Section 2: The Seven Sacraments of the Church (1210 - 1690) Chapter 2: The Sacraments of Healing (1420 - 1532) Article 4: The Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation (1422 - 1498) X. INDULGENCES ⇡ The punishments of sin ⇡ 1031 1861 (all) 1472 To understand this doctrine and practice of the Church, it is necessary to understand that sin has a double consequence. Grave sin deprives us of communion with God and therefore makes us incapable of eternal life, the privation of which is called the "eternal punishment" of sin. On the other hand every sin, even venial, entails an unhealthy attachment to creatures, which must be purified either here on earth, or after death in the state called Purgatory. This purification frees one from what is called the "temporal punishment" of sin. These two punishments must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without, but as following from the very nature of sin. A conversion which proceeds from a fervent charity can attain the complete purification of the sinner in such a way that no punishment would remain. 84 84. Cf. Council of Trent (1551): DS 1712-1713; (1563): 1820. In the Communion of Saints ⇡ 1475 In the communion of saints, "a perennial link of charity exists between the faithful who have already reached their heavenly home, those who are expiating their sins in purgatory and those who are still pilgrims on earth. between them there is, too, an abundant exchange of all good things."87 In this wonderful exchange, the holiness of one profits others, well beyond the harm that the sin of one could cause others. Thus recourse to the communion of saints lets the contrite sinner be more promptly and efficaciously purified of the punishments for sin. 87. Indulgentiarum doctrina, 5. 1498 Through indulgences the faithful can obtain the remission of temporal punishment resulting from sin for themselves and also for the souls in Purgatory.
Fantastic! Thank you Dr. Pitre and the entire AWESOME staff at Catholic Productions! I've always used 2 Mac. 12 and 1 Cor. 3 as scriptural basis for Purgatory, but this coming from Luke 12 is even better!
Ezekiel 18:23 “‘Do I take any delight at all in the death of someone wicked,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘[and] not in that he should turn back from his ways and actually keep living?’ If, even a DEATH of a human being is something repugnant to God, the RCC's vain attempt to make God into a monster plays into Satan hands.
I've been researching this so I can try and convince my protestant brothers and this is the best video I have found! Thank you for explaining it so clearly. As you said, none of the other videos I could find really talked about anything Jesus said and, although I don't believe in Sola Scriptura, I had to find as much biblical evidence I could for my protestant brothers that are more inclined to believe something that is in the bible!
When I read this the first time ir dawned on me that there does exist some form of punishment (other than Hell) for those who did not fully live their lives as they ought to have done. Thanks.
All these catholics with their works based salvation are going to hell. I pray they accept the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. Oh and purgatory is not in the bible. But not calling a man father is and a pastor should be the married man of one wife have rule over his household well. Also thou shalt not make any graven images is also in the bible. Salvation is by grace alone not of works lest any man should boast. Poor twisted Catholics.
@listenup872 so you have to believe faith alone for faith alone to work? So faith in Christ doesn't work if you don't believe as a Protestant? That's rather convenient.
Wow! I must be so sleepy that night when I was watching this. But now, I want to thank you Dr. Pitre for sharing the very good verses from the book of Luke to make me understand our doctrine of Purgatory.
@@vincenzofranz it's the truth. Not lies. It's just that you don't want to know or understand. If you don't believe it, then it's your problem. So keep your mouth shut.
@@vincenzofranzThen why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started. If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
@@MasterKeyMagic if you want to add and/or subtract to God’s word and follow a teaching of purgatory that is not even close to be found in scriptures you are entitled to it, go ahead. You are just insulting Jesus by telling him that what he has done on the cross for you is not enough, a purgatory is needed even though he made it CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT HIS BLOOD PURIFIES YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Waow!!! 👍 Thank u Dr Petri 4 revealing 2 us th existence of purgatory in th Bible. It has so hard 2 convince those who don't believe that it exist. I didn't know where refer in th bible. Now I know! Glory b 2 God 4rever!!!!
All these protestants trying hard to spread the half truth... Anyway I dont know why protestant was necessary in the first place. There were other form of Christiany other than the Catholic during what they so called reformation, where they could easyly join those churches. It proves that they are Just anti Catholics.
Well, as a Protestant, that is a title that got my attention. It is an interesting take, but here is why its wrong. *Ignores the immediate context* It is interesting that you only read half of verse 48. You cut off Jesus's own explanation for the parable, in order to insert your own. What is the purpose of the illustration of the 3 unprepared servants _according to Jesus?_ "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." Seems to me this has nothing to do with eternal vs temporal punishments. The point of the parable is that everyone will be held accountable according to the knowledge he received. The person who did not hear the gospel, will not be punished like the one who did hear it but ignored it, and the one who heard and ignored is will not be punished as the one who knows the gospel and still willfully surrender himself into depraved sin. This is not about different _kinds_ of punishment, it is about different _intensities_ of punishment. *Ignores what the rest of scripture says on this topic* The explanation assumes that it is possible to be guilty towards God, but not _so_ guilty that you quite deserves hell. Even that ignorance can be counted as innocence. What does the Bible say? _The extend of God's Wrath_ Romans 1:18-23 God has revealed Himself through nature so that _no man_ can have an excuse before Him. All people _knows_ that God exist, but they willfully suppress this knowledge. God holds _all people_ accountable for this. So even the person who never heard of Jesus, received revelation from God which he suppressed, and therefore is guilty. Romans 2:12,14-15 God has given all people a moral conscience to distinguish between right and wrong, and when they willfully goes against their better judgement, they are accountable to God. Romans 3:9-20, James 2:10, Romans 6:23 Paul declares _all people_ wicked and under the wrath of God. And I'll throw James 2:10 in there to demonstrate that there is no "ignorant innocence". All people have moral conscience, all people break their conscience, a law breaker is a law breaker, and the wages of sin is death. Not mortal sins, all sins. There is no distinction there. _the extend of God's mercy_ Romans 8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" No condemnation for those in Christ. There is no purgatory where those in Christ still needs to pay for some of their sin, Christ has payed for it all, Christs atonement is sufficient Hebrews 10:1-18. To say that we need to pay off some of our own sins is to diminish the finished work of Christ, and to belittle what He has achieved for us. But then I hear the accusation of Romans 6:1 "What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?" But Paul has already answered that question. "We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?" Indeed, Christ have not just come to free us from the consequences of sin, but also from the slavery of sin (Romans 6:17-18) Not sinning is not merely a human choice, it is a supernatural intervention from God who recreated you into a new creature: (2 Cor 5:17-18) This idea of God being the One who conforms our desires to His is even in the old Testament Ez 36:26. Galatians describe our good works as the fruit of the Spirit, and Jesus says by the fruit you will know a tree. The fruit doesn't determine the tree, the tree determine the fruit. We don't do good works in order to put ourselves into the right relationship with God, we do it because God has restored us into the right relationship with us. The causal direction here is important. Saving faith inevitably leads to good works, not the other way around. God gifts us with the desire to do so. There is no room in scripture for purgatory. It never mentions implicitly or explicitly, because without Jesus we all go to hell, and Jesus is a perfect savior for those who come to Him. There are *no condemnation* for those who are in Christ. There is nothing in the middle. *Reading an unbiblical concept into the text where it does not exist* The entire interpretation given here _assumes_ the existence of purgatory, and _insert it into the text._ There is no way you can come to the conclusion of purgatory by reading this text without presupposing the thing you're trying to prove. And there is no biblical support for such a concept anywhere else in scripture. Before you can say this passage refer to purgatory, you must first prove from scripture that there _is_ such a thing, and you have not done so. 2 Macc 12: Setting aside the issue of canonicity, there is nothing here that even remotely point to the existence of purgatory. We must distinguish in the Bible between prescriptive narrative, and descriptive narrative. Just because the Bible describe people doing things, doesn't mean that God actually endorsed their actions. This is clearly descriptive narrative, so we cannot make any conclusions regarding divine revelation from the actions of these men. Moreover, they were praying for people who died as unrepentant idolaters. There is no forgiveness for that. These people did not go to purgatory, they went to hell, and the sin offering would not change that. Gods law is clear on this matter. Even if we assumed that these people were saved due to the sin offering, the text does not say where these people were in death, you are inserting purgatory into the text, but it simply isn't there. 3 Corinthians 3:15: Again, there is nothing about purgatory here. You have to completely ignore the context of the text to make this about purgatory. This text is a warning to preachers of the Word. They are builders, they are building the congregation, and their preaching is the material they use to build with. God is warning preachers here to preach His word thoroughly purely and fully, for if they preach a weak and incomplete gospel that fails to bring repentance and conversion, then their work will be undone, and they will be saved "but only as through fire.". Read carefully. They will not "be saved through fire", they will be "saved *as* through fire". They won't actually touch any fire. They will face Gods anger for their sloppy work, but they will be saved. That is all the text says here. Nothing about a temporary cleansing of sins in a pit of fire.
This is also why we have the sacrament of reconciliation and the anointing of the sick (most often done for the dying). So sins (grave or not) be forgiven. Great explanation. I learned a lot. God bless!
Felipe Van Leeuwen I am not Roman Catholic because Rome denies the gospel. Rome has a gospel but not the gospel and, in reality, their gospel damns not saves because it explicitly denies that justification comes by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Rome accurately understands the Protestant position and unapologetically anathematizes it. To the work of Christ it adds the work of Mary. To the intercession of the Savior it adds the intercession of the saints. To the authority of the Bible it adds the authority of tradition. To the free gift of salvation it adds the necessity of human effort. In place of the finished work of Christ on the cross it demands the ongoing sacrifice of the mass. In place of the permanent imputation of Christ’s righteousness it substitutes the temporary infusion of works righteousness. In so many different ways it explicitly and unapologetically denies truth and promotes error. The Roman Catholic gospel is a false gospel. I am not Roman Catholic because Rome is not the church. Rome claims to trace her lineage in an unbroken line that extends all the way back to the apostle Peter to whom Christ said, “Upon this rock I will build my church” (Matthew 16:18). In this way she says that she is the church with the power and authority to demand the allegiance and bind the conscience of every Christian. I do not recognize such lineage and, therefore, do not recognize such authority. Her claims are unprovable and represent a distortion of the Bible’s claims about Christ’s church. To be Catholic I would first have to bend the knee to the pope as the successor to Peter and acknowledge the Church as the continuation of what Christ began through his disciples. I cannot, because the Roman Catholic Church is a false church. I am not Roman Catholic because Catholic worship is idolatrous. Protestants commonly charge Catholicism with promoting worship of Mary or the saints. Under the tutelage of R.C. Sproul I came to understand that this charge requires nuance and is, to some degree, a matter of defining words such as “venerate.” And yet there is undeniably a seed of what I must acknowledge as idolatry. This was affirmed during a recent trip to Europe where in Germany and Austria I visited Catholic cathedrals and saw the veneration of bones, relics, and icons, and where I saw the Church advocating and promoting prayers to Mary and the saints. Here was Catholicism in its full bloom and it was as alarming as it was tragic. I saw people who have not known the joyous freedom of the gospel desperately extending worship to or through Mary and the saints. They did it all under the guidance of their Church. In many of its forms Roman Catholic worship is idolatrous. I joyfully affirm, of course, that there are true believers within Catholicism and that what is true of Rome’s official doctrine is not necessarily true of all of her adherents. Yet the salvation of these brothers and sisters has come despite the teachings of the church, not through them. I appreciate the point Leonardo De Chirico highlights here: What refers to the Catholic Church in its doctrinal and institutional configuration cannot necessarily be extended to all Catholics as individuals. The grace of God is at work in men and women who, though considering themselves Catholics, entrust themselves exclusively to the Lord, cultivate a personal relationship with Him, read the Bible and live as Christians. These people, however, must be encouraged to reflect on whether their faith is compatible or not with belonging to the Catholic Church. Moreover, they must be helped to critically think over what remains of their Catholic background in the light of Biblical teaching. I am not Roman Catholic. I am not Roman Catholic because I was raised to understand that Catholic doctrine is opposed to Scripture. But even more, I am not Roman Catholic because through my own examinations I came to see that she denies the gospel of free grace, that she claims authority that is not her own, and that she promotes worship that detracts from the worship we all owe exclusively to our God.
@@Wgaither1 I think the length of your answer shows how much effort you need to do just to justify your stand and make it "right." Perhaps you trust "your own" examinations more than you trust the Gospel and those whom Jesus has chosen to shepherd His people until he comes back again. I totally respect your opinion, but I disagree with the things you said about how we deny the Gospel etc. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, Son of the Father, and the Spirit was sent to keep the Church from going astray. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, doesn't matter what you think, that faith of mine on the Truth does not change. May you grow in God's Spirit wherever you are right now, and you'll never be astray. God bless you in Jesus Name. :)
I John 1:9 “If we confess our sins HE is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to forgive us of all unrighteousness.” Confess your sins.... to God, and have faith in the Blood of Jesus, not the cup but the Cross.
I have zero faith in the cup. No faith at all. But that Precious Blood of Jesus in that cup? I have all kinds of faith in that because that Blood washed away my sins. Some consider this a hard saying. They fall away....
George Penton I call Catholicism heresy, the followers think they are saved by the Sacraments. When God is demanding sinners REPENT OR THEY WILL PERISH
PERSONAL NOTES: 0:00 Introduction 0:45 Parable of the thief in the night. -Luke 12:39 3:20 Peter's question and Jesus' response. -Luke 12:41-42 6:27 The parable of the faithful (and not so faithful stewards) -Luke 12:43-47 8:57 Two more options for the not so faithful. 10:27 Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. The faithful, the wicked, and the ignorant & unprepared servants' rewards.
If Christ's shedding of blood on the cross paid the debt for our sins, why do we have to pay for them again? Isn't this the same thing as saying that His sacrifice was insufficient? I thought Salvation was, we owe a debt, we are guilty of our sins, and Christ paid that debt on our behalf on the cross. If the debt is paid, we don't need to pay it again. If, however, we DO need to pay again...doesn't that clearly imply that Christ's paying of our debt wasn't enough? I'm sorry for being confused by this point. I did understand the concept laid out regarding the 4 servants, I just can't square it with Christ's redemptive sacrifice. I welcome any helpful information, I'm honestly trying to understand. Thanks!
Kevin Kelly. I can see your point of view. Jesus died for our sins =100% True. The problem is NOT in Jesus. The Problem is found with We the Individuals who are not being faithful nor appreciative of Jesus Free Gift of Salvation for us. Case scenario: What happens when I am saved, baptized, accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, go to church regularly, do not steal or kill or disrespect my parents, read and study the Bible cover to cover, preach the gospel, be patient, kind and generous (all Fruits of the Holy Spirit_) and yet in my weaknesses I may repeatedly violate through my actions one or more of the 10 Commandments. For example, I may cheat on my spouse once or a few times ( knowing it is wrong and offensive to God) but I keep doing it due to my Human Weakness or any other reason. (by the way this just an example:) I die while still not repenting of my cheating sins. OK? So I die. Will I go to Heaven? because I have been saved, and respected all of the commandments (except adultery) or Will I Go to Hell? because I intentionally committed adultery for months or years? Jesus is PERFECT. We, Humans, Are IMPERFECT. That is how I see it. Will GOD send me to HELL (thus I lose my saving Grace) or would GOD allow me to live in Heaven with HIM (and ignore my wrongdoings?) The answer to this question has helped me better discern the answer to your question for which I have prayed for many years in my Journey with Jesus Christ, my Lord, and Savior. God bless you.
Christ's shedding is a free gift which paid the debt for our sins ....and this enables us to get to heaven..true......yet sin(especially mortal sin) is a refusal of such free gift...and since Jesus has given us free will...then we still can go down there.
@@cottoon8837 I am sorry Cotto, I did not understand your reply. Would you be kind and clarify what you mean. Are you saying that I will go to Heaven because I am saved by Jesus Christ and he already paid for my sins & I am saved by HIM and accepted HIM as my Lord and Savior (yet I am willingly & knowingly living in sin) or I will go to Hell because (though I am saved and accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior) I did not do(live according to) what Jesus expects me to do? Mattew 15: 8. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
@@margot9373 What it comes down to is this . Jesus died for every sin that you have and will ever commit , just to bring you into His kingdom. Hebrews 4:15-16 Jesus has firsthand experience of what you are going through and still chose to die for ALL of your sins 1 John 2:1 Jesus is there for you ALWAYS. 1 Cor 6:11 this is what He did for you at the cross and there is no need for further cleansing , He has done everything for you to be with Him.
@@cottoon8837 What it comes down to is this . Jesus died for every sin that you have and will ever commit , just to bring you into His kingdom. Hebrews 4:15-16 Jesus has firsthand experience of what you are going through and still chose to die for ALL of your sins 1 John 2:1 Jesus is there for you ALWAYS. 1 Cor 6:11 this is what He did for you at the cross and there is no need for further cleansing , He has done everything for you to be with Him. yet sin(especially mortal sin) is a refusal of such free gift...and since Jesus has given us free will...then we still can go down there. Eph 2:5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved. There is no passage of scripture saying that God will take His gift back or that you can sin enough that God's grace is insufficient for you. When 1 John 2:1,2 say that Jesus is there for you and forgives you , who are you to say that He meant most but not all sins?
Thanks Dr. Pitre for this great and fascinating explanation from the parable of Jesus pointing to a third temporary destination after death called purgatory!
@@Galaxy-ig8siExcept all pre-Nicene Christians, who knew the apostles and had the original copies of the bible, understood purgatory to be real. its the gnostics who didnt
@@MasterKeyMagic Purgatory is a lie from the RCC, to make money! The bible doesn't teach purgatory to get to Heaven. It teaches faith in Christ alone. See John 3:16
That man is a deceiver who does not know the scriptures and the truth that comes from God's word. The bible says that Jesus is the Savior of all men. And that by faith in Him, you have eternal life. John 3:16, Faith is all that is needed! Not by works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2, verses 8,9.
What a phenomenal explanation for such a controversial topic. The deeper i go into my faith and the more the Father reveals to me the more i understand the beauty of this doctrine. The issue Protestants have confuses what is of man and what is of God. Purgatory is not something we do. It is God’s way of enabling us to gaze upon His perfect and holy face. Nothing unholy can come into His temple and we should be thankful. Nor does it negate the sufficiency of Christ’s death on the cross. If Protestants truly believe our works are nothing but dirty rags then how is it possible they shall not want a cleansing fire to remove all of their sinful impurities?
Tim there is no cleansing fire required as Jesus Has done EVERYTHING to make you acceptable to God. 1 Cor 3:15 is misquoted and out of context , start at verse 11 and you find that you are building on a foundation and you can not build a building with sin so verse 15 has Nothing to do with sin!!!
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 because protestants believed in once saved always saved, they never felt the need to follow Christ. :) no redemptive suffering whatsoever. If faith saves and once saved always saved then what need is there to follow Christ. That thinking is contrary to scripture
@@markv1974 no redemptive suffering redemptive adjective acting to save someone from error or evil. suffering noun the state of undergoing pain, distress, or hardship. still can't see anywhere in scripture that we are to punish ourselves because of sin in our lives. I do see that we are to flee from lusts and not be like the world at all and OSAS does not refer to your flesh that will never inherit the kingdom, it refers to your spirit which God has placed in the heavenly realm the moment you repented and started to follow Jesus. Romans 8:1
But Romans is clear that Christ did it all and apart from him nothing else is needed his death was all sufficient. We will never be cleansed 100% and is not a requirement for entering the kingdom: Romans 5: 6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die- 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Isaiah 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed.
@JL-qe7of He gave us salvation but we can still reject it through disobedience, because we have free will. The one who loves the lord is the one who believes in his word, the one who believes is obedient to his comands, and the believer will have eternal life. If someone says he believes but deliberately rejects the words through his actions, he is not really believing. Read James 2.
Nobody disagreeing with this video is actually responding to the specific text cited and giving an alternative explanation. They’re just babbling incoherently. Is half this comment section drunk? What is going on?
You are soooo incredible sir! I highly admire your knowledge and insight into scripture. One question, are you writing any new books? I already have all your books in my bookshelf.
@@BornAgainCatholic You are missing my point. Is not enough to listen to others, we should read scripture and meditate on our own, with the help of the Holy Spirit who reveals all truth. We are all humans and have our flaws. Be wise and consider different points of view. I commented here not for my own good or to glorify myself. I commented because I care about you and all others like you seek the truth. God bless you.
@@gffajardo No, you're missing the point. You're no one and Brant Pitre is a very respected scholar by Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox. You think you I'm going to listen to you over him? That's crazy. Especially, since you can't even get the Greek right between the Greek words "you" in the singular and "you" in the plural.
Thanks for this video 😊 i already understand this, amen Thanks for enlighten my mind and heart, i accidentally wacth this video but it's worth watching, glory to God,
@Sonny Bruschetta More importantly Scripture says that we have the righteousness of Christ if we are saved. How could perfect righteousness be punished? This video is just twisting Scripture to fit a narrative. "For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Corinthians 5:21
@Sonny Bruschetta About five years...when I really read my Bible for the first time and understood the Gospel message of Salvation...and knew I could not go back to incorrect theology and worship. I was raised Catholic and raised my family in the RCC. I remember the last RCC service my wife and i went to....couldn't begin to understand the priest that spoke broken English. The lady in front of us was reading the church bulletin during the sermon. I felt starved spiritually. I had a health scare that led me to Scripture...and from there there was no looking back. We now attend a local Baptist Church. The difference is like night vs day. Our kids are grown and don't attend any church.
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Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
If what you say about purgatory is true, then Jesus did die in vain. All sinners who repent will be forgiven. There will be no beating or purgatory, for Jesus took upon himself the inequity of us all.
You are then subtracting scriptures ( Rev 22:19regarding sufferings or beating in purgatory presented in the video because it just conflicts your personal private interpretation of " Jesus did die in vain" if there is purgatory or that it infringes Jesus' sufferings. IN Interpreting the bible verses there shouldn't be any conflict on among scriptures, otherwise, the interpretation is incomplete or wrong. To be able to make sense and not subtracting the purgatory verses, here is the explanation of doctrine truth: "Purgatory is simply the last stage of sanctification. Sanctification in this life involves pain, for “For the Lord disciplines him whom he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives. . . . [And] For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant” (Hebrews 12:6, 11), yet no one says that suffering infringes on Christ’s sufferings. In the same way, the suffering during the final sanctification in no way infringes on Christ’s sufferings or implies they were insufficient. The fact is that the suffering we experience in sanctification in this life is something we receive because of Christ’s sacrifice for us. His sufferings paid the price for us to be sanctified, and his sufferings paid the price for the whole of our sanctification - both the initial and final parts. Thus it is because of Christ’s sacrifice that we receive the final sanctification in the first place! If he had not suffered, we would not be given the final sanctification (or the glorification to which it leads), but would go straight to hell. Thus purgatory does not imply Christ’s sufferings were insufficient; rather it is because of Christ’s sufferings that we are given the final sanctification of purgatory in the first place."
I agree! It's a parable free for everyone's interpretations. Put purgatory in there or what you have What is important is that If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. Romans 10:9-10
Noe Carillo Don’t stop on verse 10.. continue the contexts till verse 15 and you will find that it is not everyone interpretation.. to have faith is to hear from those being sent (that means apostles)
@@tatuntatoong9937 "thus purgatirt does not imply Christ's sufferings were in sufficient, rather it is because of Christ's sufferings that we are given the final sanctification of purgatort in the first place." That sounds cute but not biblical
@@tatuntatoong9937 Hebrew 12:6-11 doesn't say anything about purgatory brother. I would like to understand what you mean in defending it's existence but it has to have something in the bible and not an extension of just our perceptions. The idea of purgatory has roots that date back into antiquity. A sort of proto-purgatory called the "celestial Hades" appears in the writings of Plato and Heraclides Ponticus and in many other pagan writers. Under the influence of Hellenistic thought, the intermediate state entered Jewish religious thought in the last centuries. I'd like to see one bit of truth in its existence. But so far, nothing makes sense.
So I recently got into a debate with some family members regarding this passage. One SDA two nondenominational. When reading this parable, they seem to think that there are only three slaves that are being talked about. One that goes to heaven, one that goes to the unfaithful, then the third is the one who did not know (they claim that that one goes to hell but just receives a light punishment). The third servant thats talked about in the video is the one they combine with the second. So my family claimed that the one who went to the unfaithful just received a severe beating. I couldmn’t get them to see that there are four being talked about. Any help or guidance
@@margaretfoley3239 Yes!😉 I've read the early non-biblical church documents. They are all 100% Catholic either in name, beliefs and practices or both. Mostly both. There's no way to disprove that. I've recently stared reading these documents in detail. I have completed THe Didache (50-70 AD), 1 Clement (80 AD), THe Epsitle of Barnabas (?). I'm currently finishing up Ignatius of Antioch letters then will proceed to Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyon and, perhaps, Tertullian. I've spot read enough of the remaining documents to know that they are also 100% Catholic. There was simply no other church around. Only heretics who taught things like Jesus did not come in the flesh or He gained his divinity by his own human efforts or the OT God was an evil God and the NT God was a good God, etc. Praise be to God for leaving us His church built on Peter. These early documents also clarify things in Scripture that can be difficult to interpret eg. The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, Baptismal Regeneration, Apostolic succession and church hieararchy under the Bishop to name a few.
Doc I am a catechist and I have been explaining purgatory using this but it is only now that I understood it. Usually uses 2Macc and the refining fire. Thank you so much brother
He does explain Melchizedek and the priesthood that sacrifices with bread and wine, to whom Jesus is a priest of Just type Melchizedek Catholic productions
It doesn't. They are trying to MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT. JUST WHAT THE Devil and Satan want. It is deception. Did God and Jesus the Apostles SAY PURGATORY????? NO. WHY ARE you all believing what was NOT SPOKEN OF BY THE gospel in the NT None of it. NONE. YOU can't ASSUME CATHOLISM Is based on Assumptions. Falsified stories to justify their RELIGION. LIES
Several other verses imply it as well, such as the ones that state that we ought to pray for the dead, not all sins are deadly, the ones put in a "prison" not to be let out until the last penny is paid, etc.
Praise God for this insightful video. I have been looking into this subject but some of the theological materials are just too deep for me.This is so easy for me to understand and to remember too. Thank God for all the people putting out good materials out there to help us better understand why we belief what we belief. Alleluia. All Praise and Glory to God.
This is what happens when you do not read God's word for yourself and will accept what your peers in the roman Catholic church are accepting, without making sure that contextual scripture is being used. Acts 17:11 is an example to us and we generally throw our hands in the air and just accept what someone teaches instead! Jesus died on the cross for every sin you did , are doing, and will do . There is no stain of sin ,venial or mortal, upon you and you are assured of heaven because of what Christ has done not through anything we do.
@@lois2997 again Lois, instead of insecure personal attacks, please provide references with specific verses. You didn’t respond to my other same reply on this issue.
@@John3_16_Then why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started. If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
@william cloud The Chaplet of The Divine Mercy Novena Fifth Day: Today bring to Me THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO HAVE SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM MY CHURCH,* and immerse them in the ocean of My mercy. During My bitter Passion they tore at My Body and Heart, that is, My Church. As they return to unity with the Church, My wounds heal and in this way they alleviate My Passion.
@william cloud The thief on the Cross more than likely did go to purgatory; according to the NKJV, And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” (LK23:43) What you interpret here is that Christ told the thief that "TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN HEAVEN," essentially stating that at the time of death the thief will receive his heavenly reward. The issue here is that you read this in English and, more importantly, with a comma - something that the original Koine Greek did not use. Hence, you choose to read this as "And Jesus said to him, 'Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” but, can also be interpreted like this: "And Jesus said to him, 'Assuredly, I say to you today, you will be with Me in Paradise.” See how the emphasis shifted there simply by moving over the comma that doesn't exist in the original Greek text? By interpreting the text in the latter manner, this allows for the existence of purgatory.
😂😂😂 really? Dr. Pitre showed where is purgatory in the Bible using Luke 12. Then you claimed that purgatory doesn't exist but you don't want to interpret those verses. Why? Because you can't so you changed the topic. 🤣🤣🤣
@william cloud Purple and red are royal colors, that everyone then in that region (and many still do, globally) used. Why? Because they were the hardest to get. Purple, for instance, was from a Phoenician beach critter. They were the colors (along with blue, if I remember correctly) that God directed be used to adorn the Tent of Meeting.
I still disagree with the catholic religion whether he is a Jew or not! When he belongs and endorses that religion I promise he is no where near St Paul.. He only told us where they get the theory of purgatory what about confessing your sins to a human being as in priest when the Bible says there is One Mediator between God and man and that is Christ! And to recognize pope francis as Christ on earth and yet shows allegiance to this religion?! Sounds like he's trying to keep his job to me! Really Jeanette? St Paul?
Catholics don’t believe Pope Francis is Christ on Earth, that’s absurd. Please stop listening to your ridiculous pastor or whoever is feeding you this BS.
@@kevinlye5441 The One Mediator between God and man gave certain men the authority to forgive sins. John 20:23 "If you forgive anyone's sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." So it doesnt infringe in the slightest agaisnt the One Mediator status.
@@Amber_Aviva That would be the servant who did not know what the master wanted, probably. Least beating. I don’t take it to mean a literal beating. For me, purgatory is never more real than when I try to quit smoking. There is physical pain involved. But now that I know what that physical pain is like, I think I can do it this time. Likewise, I think the beatings (literal or physical or both) in life we get will get us through the purging as if by fire in the next life.
Thank you Dr. Pitre for teaching us so well about our catholic faith specially in light of the attacks from our protestants brothers and sisters that always claim that catholic teachings are not found in the Bible, also ignoring that ihe Catholic Church compiled the Bible and later on Martin Luther modified and took away books from the Catholic Bible therefore making the protestant bibles not the true word of God.
This is a wonderful insight into the outcome of mortal sin and venial sin...with regards to purgatory it's a great elaboration the final end of the believer as taught by Christ himself...thanks Dr.Pitre.
I know this is unrelated, but I did not know Mother Theresa got spit on from asking a baker if he had a loaf of bread for starving orphan children and she said, “Okay, that was for me, but what about the bread for the orphans?” Amazing. She was amazing. To have that patience and love.. If it happened to me I don’t know what I’d do. Being spit on is not only disgusting but also infuriating. I hope that I can become as kind. ❤️
"I hope that I can become as kind", well said, I too hope and pray for such wonderful patience. Getting older, I noticed my own anger wells up quicker than it used to. Please, Dear Lord, I pray for an increase in my patience and to quell my anger.
I hope you look into how awful she really was. I don’t get why people ignore all the awful stuff she has done to other people.
I've learned to thank the wicked when they abuse me for obeying Christ. After all, they inadvertently bless me thereby. If they get angered by that, that's their own fault.
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*"A dung heap can't get into Heaven even if it is buried under a mile of snow. God cannot lie; He cannot declare righteous those who are not actually righteous. You must be washed and transformed by Christ so that you are actually righteous."*
You are declared righteous by God when you trust Him.
You are declared righteous by imputed righteousness, you are declared righteous if you wear Christ's robe of righteousness, you are declared righteous by God because Christ was righteous and you trust Christ.
If by any stretch you think your own self righteousness weights in the balance for your salvation, then you are trusting yourself for your salvation, and you are declaring Christ's blood insufficient : making you an unsaved unbeliever.
1) when you get born again (by faith in Christ's work), The sins on our account are washed away by the blood of Christ and your spirit is renewed and cannot sin anymore.
*1 john 3;9* _"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."_
But your corrupted flesh makes you sin still
*Romans 7;14-25* _"14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."_
2) At Christ's second coming occurs the first resurrection of the saints (saved people). At this moment we'll be given incorruptible bodies, and be caught in the skies, before 7th seal is opened and God pour his wrath on the world.
-> with a sinless spirit and an incorruptible body, we won't sin anymore.
*1 cor 15;50-53* _"50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."_
3) Christ's judgment over the church (1 cor 3 that catholics tries to twist to justify purgatory) occurs *after* we get sinless.
-> there is no more sin _'to be purged'_ then.
@@nicolas9533 Declared righteous or made righteous? It is written, "You will not acquit the guilty," and "God is not a man, that He should lie." He cannot declare righteous those who are not actually righteous; rather, "If any man is in Christ, he is a new creature." God's grace transforms sinners into saints. Christ takes away the sins of world, rather than papering over them.
As an independent fundamental Baptist (Protestant), this has changed my mind a bit. I’ll do my own study over the matter (referencing scripture with scripture, no private interpretations, etc) to clarify it for myself. But this is intriguing at the very least.
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You should look into the more moderate Orthodox View of “The 3rd State”, for want of a better term. We’ve never quite settled on what to call it.
You see, nearly everything about the sources for this video and most of the discussions are true. What we disagree on is the conclusion of purgatory as defined is necessarily entirely accurate and absolutely disagree that indulgences are the right way to deal with the problem.
There IS a third state, we are required to pray for the dead there, but we Orthodox don’t agree that enough is known to dogmatically define it beyond what’s revealed in scripture, and even if a reconciled Orthodox Catholic Church eventually DOES come to agree on the metaphysic, a condition of reunification will be that all dogmas unique to Rome since 1054 will have to be at least temporarily rescinded until re-confirmed by a LEGITIMATE Ecumenical Council, as we will NEVER accept Papal Supremacy. Orthodoxy will ever be a Confederated Hierarchy Of Bishops. Rome must return to this; God does not want an absolute monarchy on earth, HE is our only absolute Monarch. Confederation was His plan in the Book of Judges, and we believe was his plan for the Church. ALL Patriarchs have the “Keys to the Kingdom”; The Rock has many peaks.
Anyway, I can also confirm that only Requiem Mass/Liturgy will ever be recognized as the appropriate method for helping the dead. We will never accept the Indulgence System. It has been proven too corruptible and prone to selfish motivation even without tithe abuse.
To get where I’m particularly coming from, check this out:
www.staugustinedenver.com
westernorthodox.com/reference-library/western-rite-parish-directory/
And see my recent videos as well. I will update them as often as I can. My focus is on Western Rite masses, but I will include any sort of Orthodox sermons, as I travel and Greeks outnumber us 10-1, so manage.
@Fisticuffs Guilde During Fatima, when Mother Mary appeared to the three children, I believe it was St. Lucia who had asked Mary about two friends of hers who had recently died. Mother Mary, one she told to Lucia was in Heaven and the other was in Purgatory and would remain there until the end of of the world. I am also a Catholic convert. Still miss RCIA at times. Purgatory is mentioned in the Bible, just not by name. Jesus spoke alot in parables and not everything should be taken literally. You need to try and know what is to be taken literally and what is a metaphor. That's tough, but that's where videos like this help and there are also Catholic books on it. You may even have a Catholic bookstore near where you live. Ask you Priest or Deacon.
Fisticuffs Guilde; Purgatory is Biblical, it may not be explicitly spelled out in Scripture, but nonetheless it is implicitly taught in Scripture. The word Purgatory like Trinity or the Incarnation may not be in Scripture but the concepts are. We also know that even the jews before Christ’s believed in praying the dead. Trinity is one of the foundational teachings of christianity even though the word doesn’t appear in Scripture, but God revealed both the Trinity and Purgatory to us. There actually are several areas in Scripture where the Doctrine of Purgatory can be found in 1st Corinthians 3 says; “ON THE DAY A MAN DIES HE WILL BE JUDGED, AND FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVED IN JESUS THEIR WORKS WILL BE TESTED BY FIRE” and Verse 15 says; “IF ANY MAN’S WORK IS BURNED UP, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS, THOUGH HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED.” So there must be some other ‘place’ that is neither heaven nor hell and catholics call that Purgatory is God’s “refining fire.”
Purgatory is rooted in Christ’s promise we must be perfect. According to Scripture, man must attain the highest perfection to enter into heaven and if that perfection is not attained by the time of death, then he/she must be purified to reach that perfection entering in heaven.
The need for purgation thus from the promises of God we shall one day perfect “YOU MUST BE PERFECT AS THE HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT.” (Mtt. 5: 48, Rev. 3:2.). (2 Cor. 7: 1; James 1: 4) St. Paul says; “MAY GOD WHO HAS BEGUN IN US. BY GOD’S GRACE, IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO COMPLETION” and that means the purification process continues even after death. Heaven is also described in the Bible as a place of those who have been made perfect (Hebrew 12: 23; Rev. 21: 27).
@@eldermillennial8330 If you will never accept Papal supremacy, then you clearly aren't Christian. The Holy Catholic Church has had plenty of LEGITIMATE Church councils, and Purgatory is an infallible fact of truth.
@Fisticuffs Guilde Here are many of the scriptures which are referring to Purgatory in the Bible.
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Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven."
2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.".
Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing.
Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
(NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.)
Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts.
Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt.
Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. "
Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.
1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire."
1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison:
(NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
I'd like to think we saw a living parable of Purgatory actually unfold in the OT.
The Jews walking through the desert are not allowed to enter the promise land (heaven) until the sinful generation that came from egypt died out (is purged). Some of them were taken into hell in the process (Numbers 26:10). Only 2 of out of the first generation out of Egypt (Joshua and Caleb) made it to the promise land and the rest were never allowed in. So we see the 2 (Joshua and Caleb) that make it and they see the promise land, those that are not allowed (the first out of egypt) in but still are saved through the covenant and then those who are cast into hell for their rebellion against the established order of God. It could be a stretch on my part, but the Bible is so much more profound than people realize. To take the Bible at face value is absurd! It's so rich in deep meaning that skimming only the surface would be ridiculous.
Foxxitude I agree with you there ,the bible is rich in references to a place like purgatory, but Jesus doesn't mention it specifically because some wouldn't live their lives naturally, and would worry themselves sick, and would not be themselves. They would be fake. They would be staying up all night to catch the "thief in the night".
@@Mar-wt3di I am glad that you can read the Lord Jesus' mind, what He did and what He did not do. Are you a prophet, maybe even a messiah? Jesus Christ is God in flesh. Please, for your own sake, do not accuse God of being deceitful.
@@mirr1427 Well I'll put it another way, He doesn't tell us when we will die does he, why? because if you knew the hour you would be acting up and being a fake saint just because you knew the day in advance and you wouldn't live the life you would have done without knowing. He wants us to come as we are, striving to do our best. Some are saints sooner than others, this is where Purgatory comes in, to purify us either by excepting hardships thrown at us, and love for our God and our fellow man here on earth ,or if we neglected these things later on in a state of purgatory.
@@Mar-wt3di In that respect it makes no difference if we know or do not know the exact day of our expiration. We all know that our time is short in this world, be it even 100 years. There are thousands upon thousands of people expiring every day because of sickness or old age. In general, no body is acting up knowing that there only few years or even few weeks left to live, though there might be some extreme cases in that regard.
Lord Jesus did not tell when He is coming back to take His bride, the church with Him to the Fathers house before the end times, because even He did not know the day Himself but only the Father knows it. It has nothing to do with the so called ‘purgatory’, man’s invention.
This is my riposte to the lecture in the video, and I am pasting it here for you to reed:
There is no ‘purgatory’; death and upon resurrection judgment. Purgatory was invented by the Talmudic Jews and then adopted by the Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Florence in 1438-1445. My question is: what happened with the souls before the Council of Florence took place? The proverb in Luke that you are discussing only illustrates severity of punishment for certain types of behavior and of course reward for obedience. Let’s delve into the subject of sin: the three types of misconduct depicted in Luke are three types of sinful behavior, you cannot dispute that. Sins can only be washed off with the blood of Lord Jesus Christ, He died on cross for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:2 (KJV) "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."
When you are on the other side, it is already too late to be cleansed. Furthermore, there are no other determinants to quench the guilt for the sins but the blood of Christ. Furthermore, sins can be pardoned only when confessed and asked God for forgiveness in the name of Lord Jesus Christ (not a priest, priests cannot forgive sins).
Mark 2:5-7 ...who can forgive sins but God only?”
1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
Romans @-24 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:”
Isaiah @ “I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.”
Isaiah @ “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” (only God is the One that can save us from sins, not a priest)
Romans @ “23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
1Timothy 2:5-6 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”
After people die, the souls are waiting to be resurrected.
Eccles. 9:5-6 “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in anything that is done under the sun.” (the dead are waiting in their graves to be resurrected and judged, the souls sleep)
1 Thess. @-18 “13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleepin Jesus will God bring with him.15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
John @-29 “28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
Sir, with all the respect, yourself, you are playing with the fire, an eternal fire by deceiving people and leading them to everlasting condemnation.
Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV) “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Once again, the gospel is: Lord Jesus Christ suffered, and died on the cross for the sins of the world, and was resurrected on the third day according to the Scripture. He paid fully for our sins and only by His blood we can be cleansed. And not in a man’s made-up purgatory by some other imaginary means. Man (I am referring to preacher), whoever you are, and whatever your title is, when you will stand in front of the White Throne facing the Almighty Judge, you will have a huge burden upon your shoulders for deceiving thousands, upon thousands ignorant people who rely on your word instead of turning to the word of God, and seeking the truth in the Bible.
2Tim. @“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”
2Peter @ “For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
Hosea 4:6“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”
There is no excuse for ignorance, the Bible is accessible for all. Amen.
@@mirr1427 I know nobody is acting up , that was just an example of what might happen if we knew the date of our death. You seem to dodge the very words of Jesus in the many parables he told to teach us what the kingdom of Heaven is like. And you are right about being washed by the blood of Jesus saving us from hell The foundation in the following is an example. 1Cor 3.10-15 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid the foundation , and someone else is building on it. Each builder must choose with CARE how to build on it. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one that has been laid, that foundation is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation, with gold silver precious stones wood hay straw, the WORK of each builder will become visible, for the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with FIRE, and the fire will test what sort of WORK each has done. IF what has been built on the foundation survives, the builder will receive a reward, IF the work is burned up, the builder will suffer loss, the builder will be SAVED, but only through fire. Now don't you think that all the loss and suffering will be gone and settled before entering into Heaven ? Remember there is no suffering in Heaven right ?
You make an interesting case. In my Protestant years, I had read this passage as your “cases 3 and 4” (many blows versus few blows) as being a mere amplification of cases 1 and 2 (the faithful versus foolish stewards). But I can see how the case can be made for cases 3 and 4 being ADDITIONAL situations. Also, the wording here - “steward” and “servant” - CLEARLY indicates people who have an existing relationship with Jesus, not just anyone from off the streets. So there can be no doubt that Jesus is talking about his followers - CHRISTIANS - here.
Additionally, we have 1 Peter 4:17-18 to reinforce this concept: “For it is time for judgment to begin with the God's household, and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, if it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the sinner?”
Clearly, right here in the Bible, we have this: Christians are going to be judged, too! And it is hard even for them to be saved - OR, at least hard for them to go straight in to Glory without any punishment/purification whatsoever. The passage talking about our works being “tested by fire” definitely applies here, especially regarding those who “will still be saved, but only as those escaping through the flames.” 1 Corinthians 3:13-15.
When I was a Protestant, these passages perplexed me, and I struggled with the meaning of them. Now Catholic and well catechized, it all comes together to make sense. PERFECT sense (I LOVE how the Church does that!)
@AVB2 incorrect. Try John 20:22-23. Jesus DOES forgive all our sins, but you MUST use his prescribed means for obtaining forgiveness.
@AVB2 How do you read the parable as, then? And by the way, I totally agree with you. Jesus the Messiah forgives/purges our sins. But He also tells us we must repent of our sins to be forgiven of them (“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9, note John says we must confess our sins) and also ("Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord." Acts 3:19). And many other verses support this. So if someone is saved in Faith by the Lord Jesus Christ, yet they have sins they have not repented for, then they will be "beaten" for these sins because they were not ready for judgement, but of course still saved and given Eternal Life by Christ. Or you could also say they will be tested by fire and escape out of flames like as described in 1st Corinthians 3. Essentially, on the Last Day, the Lord of Hosts will send the majority of people to outer darkness and eternal destruction, but among the saved there will then be those who were ready for His coming and will be given glory and Eternal Life in the Kingdom of God, and those who were not ready and will be given a beating but then the Lord will give them Eternal Life as well. And then there will be those who never receive the Message of God, and they will also be given a beating but then God will allow them Eternal Life in His Kingdom.
@AVB2 you do majorly err by making a context error. When confronted with two verses that seem to contradict, you MUST go with the meaning that satisfies them both. So no it's not in error. You are. You're just reading it wrong.
@AVB2 I gave you a citation above -- did you not read it? It does not "disprove" your Hebrews citation; rather, it complements it. I prefer to look to the whole Bible for my answers rather than hanging myself on just one verse.
And I am NOT your "lifelong Catholic" -- I am a lifelong Protestant and Catholic-HATER of 36 adult years who converted to Catholicism in 2021 after a vigorous attempt to do what you're trying to do. Fact is, Catholic apologetics are VERY sound, and it turns out our strongly held Protestant beliefs are what's built on the sand. I was never more shocked to discover this! But when the facts were on the table - I'm an honest man - I did only what I could do: I embraced them, and I am Catholic today. And I could go on for 1000+ words detailing all the positive ways that decision has blessed my Christian walk! Are YOU an honest man? You need to look much more deeply into what you're attacking. Not through the lens of protestant apologetics, but rather through the lens of Catholic apologetics.
@@donm-tv8cm🎯 Amen! God bless.
Thank you for helping me to understand this. I'm a relatively new convert (3 years ago), and never understood Purgatory until now.
Todd ask yourself did Jesus or the Apostles talk about Purgatory? No. Then why are they. His Apostles didn't. I am so tired of these people assuming and LYING I am REPENTING and asking God for my GENERATION and body life holy Spirit back enough of this mess.
Jesus absolutely talked about getting purified thru fire before Heaven. The more you read and research, the more the Holy Spirit will fill you with wisdom and understanding. Nothing unpure can enter Heaven. Jesus forgives us (ONLY if we ASK for forgiveness) but He then purifies us in Purgatory. @@TriciaPerry-ef7bi
@TriciaPerry-ef7bi did you actually play this video?
Did Jesus or the Apostle talk about Bible yes or no.
Should have stayed a Protestant.
Protestant Christian here. Never heard this parable explained in a way that is so clear. 🤯
Thank you
I remember going through the process of having my mind blown by stuff like this when I was still a protestant. My mind is still being blown as a recent convert, but it hits different when you cross the Tiber. Consider this my invitation - come home!
@Hoosie_ Thank you, I'm definitely considering. It's been on my heart for quite some time.
The Bible clearly teaches punishment in Hell for those who reject Christ and it clearly teaches there are worse punishments for those who willfully and knowingly reject Him. See: Matt 10:15, Matt 11:22, 24; mark 6:11, Heb 6:29
Those 3 servants (who were not ready) all go to Hell in this parable, with varying degrees of punishment.
The Bible clearly teaches salvation by grace through faith in Jesus. Jesus directly refers to Hell and Heaven many times but strangely never mentions purgatory 🤔 Neither does Paul or Peter or any other NT writer.
Why is Christ’s sacrifice not enough??? Why can Catholics not accept and receive His beautiful gift of salvation?
“And if it is by grace, then it is no longer by works. Otherwise, grace would no longer be grace.”
Romans 11:6 BSB
Catholic here. Purgatory is equivalent to Purification before entering Heaven.
I don't recall if Brent included this following verse in his video talk but it has recently become one of my favorite verses that point clearly to something that will occur spiritually and, as I believe, in the next life. It's found it Matthew 18 where Jesus has just told the parable of the unforgiving servant who was forgiven by the master but then refused to forgive another who owed him money. After the parable, Jesus said the following statement beginning verse 35..." So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you (put you in prison until you pay the last penny), if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.” We can give any name we like to Jesus' words and it still works. It's just that the church chose to call it purgatory.
I am once again in awe of this context, Dr. Pitre! Thank you so much! Viva Cristo Rey!
The lost will never make it to heaven. Purgatory does not exist in the Bible, it's an invention of the evil Vatican, the whore of Babylon. Read the Bible for yourself: the saved people will go to heaven with JESUS, the lost into hell and later into the Lake of Fire. Listen to real theologians like Dr. John Ankerberg and check out the Jack Chick Gospel Tracts!
so i guess the sins of the thief on the cross werent so bad as to warrant purgatory. after all, Jesus told him "TODAY you will be with me in PARADISE". and paul was apparently unaware of this doctrine as well, he stated "to be absent rom the body is to be present with the lord" when referring to believers. neither Jesus nor Paul spoke about any kind of holding period for cleansing of sins, the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross was enough, hence Him saying "it is finished!"
Maybe Jesus credited the thief's crucifixion on the cross to his purification.
@@bridgefinno. He just told him he will be in paradise .... Stop assuming and adding what is not there
@@TriciaPerry-ef7bi
OK, then please explain for us how the thief was purified since according to Rev 21: 27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
We all view through our traditions when interpreting Scripture. That's why the writings of the first Christians are so important as commentaries. Anyone can find them in pdf form online
That verse is always misquoted, especially at funerals. Scripture doesn't say to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Paul said that he would rather be present with the Lord and absent from his body. If given the choice between the two, that would be his preference and that is how it's worded in scripture. As far as the thief, listen to Chad Ripperger on suffering. He talks about suffering on earth vs. in purgatory and that may be the key to understanding that verse. God bless.
This is the first time purgatory has been explained through the message Dr. Pitre dwells on at length. I never looked at it that way before. May God continue to shed His light upon you, Dr. Pitre. And thank you for explaining what is usually a tough topic to deal with.
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The Carpenter Jesus never mentioned purgatory. The thief next to Jesus was a prime candidate for purgatory but Jesus assured him of Paradise with Him Luke 23:34-44. Limbo was an other imaginary place which closed down in 1959. We can’t buy the gift of god with money Acts 8:20. By one sacrifice we have been perfected forever Hebrews 10:14.Or the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1:9. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins Hebrews 9:22. Call on Jesus right now and Paradise and eternal life John 3:16
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 If you mean literally the word Purgatory is not mentioned in the Bible, then by that token we cannot believe in the Trinity, because that's not mentioned in the Bible. The Bible itself does not say that unless something is in the book, you don't have to believe it. Purgatory, however, is inferred in the Bible. No Catholic believes they can buy God's grace with money. But, to make an offering of some sort, you would need money. But, God sees our heart and simply making offerings is not going to move Him. The Bible says, a contrite heart O Lord you will not spurn.
@@The-Carpenter Thanks for your response. Yes you’re right there is not one mention of purgatory in God’s word from Genesis to Revelation..The blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9 Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Hebrews 9:22.
By one sacrifice we have been perfected forever Hebrews 10:14..Jesus said to the thief on Calvary Assuredly this day you you will be with me in Paradise Luke 23:34-44. Yes purgatory was introduced into the Roman Catholic Church by Pope Gregory the great in 590ad but it wasn’t until pope Sixtus 4th before it began to make money in 1446 ad .We still pay a lot of money through Mass cards But saint Peter said that we cannot buy the gift of God by money. Freely we have received and freely we give. Limbo was also a man made place Call on the Lord Jesus and have eternal life John 3:16. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all unrighteousness. Jesus is the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world John 1:29 (2000 years ago on Calvary). Baptism always followed immediately after believing and repentance in the Lord Jesus Christ
@@johnfrancisbien8345 Thanks for your response. Yes I gave scriptures to match any statement I made. I just declared the facts of scriptures. Jesus never mentioned purgatory in any of his talks . Purgatory is making a mock of Jesus finished work on Calvary. You obviously have found another way to heaven But we know that Jesus is the only way to the Father. Our prayer should be Mary’s prayer. My soul magnifies the Lord Jesus and My spirit rejoices in God my savior Luke 1:46-48 Who is Mary’s savior? Yes you’re right Jesus is the savior of the entire world or the lamb of god who took away the sins of the entire world. Have you received your free forgiveness and salvation yet? Is the Lord Jesus your savior or have you found another way John 14:6. Call on Jesus right now and have eternal life with the Lord Jesus. You can’t buy the gift of God with money Acts 8:20.
Call on the Lord Jesus right now and have Paradise with Jesus forevermore
This was so fascinating. I never noticed there were four different outcomes before. And your explanation lights up the Scripture so clearly.
@@royruser5074 You performed the functions but you never really understood Catholicism. You only have an artificial understanding. Most people who say I was raised Catholic have little or no understanding at all of the WHY of what they were doing or the history behind it which is why they are led away easily by Judas.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker Catholicism is purely pagan. Every religious ritual they performed not supported by Bible. Please tell me single line from the Bible that support it
@@modestsohtun9525 The Bible was put together by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome in 382. It is a purely Catholic document and can only be infallibly interpreted by the Catholic Church. I suggest you compile your own bible.
@@modestsohtun9525 You worship a book. We worship God. Do you think the Bible fell down from Heaven? The Bible is a Catholic document, first put together in 382 by the Catholic Church at the Council of Rome. You are quoting from a Catholic book. Congratulations you have made the first towards becoming Catholic.
@@modestsohtun9525 Only the devil calls what is Holy, pagan, and nothing that a protestant believes is supported by the Bible. If you are so anti Catholic you should reject the Bible, because it was the Catholic Church that put it together, and declared the scriptures inspired by God in the first place.
Purgatory
Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven."
2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.".
Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing.
Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
(NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.)
Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts.
Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt.
Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. "
Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.
1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire."
1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison:
(NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
Ask an Rabbi today. They say hell an adjustment to heaven. And they say the Yiddish prayer for the souls for this purification to heaven. This was always in the Jewish word of God. Jesus and the apostles were Jewish and believed in purgatory. It doesn’t need to be spelled out in the New Testament.
Yes, I've heard the Jews have always believed in a purgation after this life.
Tannaic era (1st-2nd centuries CE) so yeah and nope.
@ what is that supposed to signify?
@@CPATuttle That's the super early dated when that prayer started.
@@JS-lv5pn BC you mean
I have subscribed, liked, and shared my friend! Outstanding, humble, and with critical analysis. Thank you! God bless you!
As a Catholic I struggled with the idea of purgotary all my life. But this teaching is such an eye opener. Never heard something like this ever and my goodness I am just in awe of what you have just taught.Thank you so much.Can wait to meditate on it.
Read the context of every scripture given as proof. You will find a different meaning . Dr P has good teaching ability but that does not mean he is correct. You need to read the scriptures to prove that there is heaven and hell and some in between place. You will find hell and you will find heaven .
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
@@bobloblawb2593 reading Scripture atomistically and not holistically will do exactly as you say.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.
@@johncastillon3454 There is no "judgement" for those that are saved. Scripture tells us that we have the righteousness of Christ if we have believed in Him.
Think of purgatory this way:
A mischievous kid throws a rock at a car window belonging to his neighbor. The neighbor goes into rage mode demanding monetary payment for the damage incurred.
The kid's parents pay the damage to avoid further trouble and resolve the matter (This is a picture of eternal debt being paid. Obviously the kid is incapable of paying for the damage done to his neighbor's car)
However, the kid is brought home and is caned by his parents for his misbehavior. This is a picture of the temporal consequences that is paid off. The kid is not kicked out and disowned as he is still their child, so similarly us believers are still saved (Heaven-bound) - sons and daughters of God. Yet the kid is caned temporarily... why? Because he is to be purged from his wrongdoing, to become better, and to be restored to right relationship with his parents and neighbour.
Nothing unclean shall enter heaven.
If we still have vices and impurities attached to our souls as we die in a state of Grace, it is humility that strives us to be 'washed and purified' first before seeing our Creator.
@@noeltan1455 our souls demand purgatory don't they?
As said by C.S. Lewis
@@noeltan1455 1 Cor 6:11 read it and tell us all how Christs death on the cross allows you to have sins that He did not pay for ?
Purged from wrong doing here not after death . No contextual scripture back up ,to a belief in purgatory!!
Yes Jesus died once and for all to take away the sins of the world, and to rebuild the bridge reconnecting Man and God. Nothing more, nothing less. That we do not deny or debate against. The blood of Christ covers our original sin - saving grace conferred onto us via baptism in water and spirit (as well as confirmation - sealing with the Holy Spirit).
But because we still have original sin, we still have sinful inclinations. As long as we're in this world, we'll be exposed to temptations and near occasions of sin. Hence, we all fall down, struggle and make mistakes. Let's be honest, can we confidently say that at the moment of our deaths we are 100% unblemished? Several of us indeed yes, but not every disciple (one who is in a state of grace and friendship with Christ)
Salvation is ongoing - I was saved yesterday, currently being saved and express a confident hope of being saved in the future. We teach an ongoing sanctification and inner renewal of the righteousness conferred by Christ to us. Purgatory simply serves to assist some of us with achieving that objective. It's gonna hurt but no pressure, no diamonds.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Mary’s apparition in Garabandal mentions purgatory when one of the seers asked Mary about two girls that died in the village. Mary answered saying that the youngest girl is in heaven and the older girl is in purgatory.
That is scary hearing someone is in purgatory but if I heard someone in my village is in hell, I would faint.
She said the same to the children of Fatima.
I’m publishing a weekly RUclips video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you..
Mary’s apparition in Garabandal , Fatima, and Guadalupe all contain false beliefs that puts Mary where she was never to be. The apparitions tend to put Mary in as healer, savior, and coredemptrix with Jesus and that is in direct conflict with John 14:6 and sound biblical teaching.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Amen. More Roman Catholic church lies.
I think Jesus also talks about purgatory in Matthew 5:20-26 when he said "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26 Truly I tell you, *you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.* "
I believe this implies finite punishment, but I would like to hear scholars opinions on this.
Yes. You are right about the Purgatory.
very clear that purgatory was not mentioned in John 5 : 20-26
Our Lord Jesus Christ talking to a jewish listeners about their offerings at the altar ,
And we shouldn't leave until we get the forgiveness of our adversary...
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I was born again and fuss
I don’t want to stay this way. It’s disgusting and awful. God blessed me and I was not thinking
I want to be BETTER AND NOT WORST
I will pray 🙏 for you 🙏
As a new convert from Protestant to Catholic, one of the topics I've struggled with the most is that of purgatory. I've read some books, but they don't really answer the question clearly, providing a thesis first then fumbling about to provide scriptures hear and there to support the thesis, leaving one with the sense that they are arguing a point versus teaching a truth. This video by Pitre (please write a book on the topic) provided me with a very clear, Biblical explanation for the reality of purgatory. Thank you.
Todd I hope you are reading the context of every verse given as some proof of purgatory. Read the context of 1 Cor 6: and then notice that the justification, sanctification and washing, in verse 11, is all past tense, as in already done , so we know from Revelation that no unclean thing will enter heaven and Jesus has done absolutely everything to make you clean already before you die . Purgatory denies the full payment for ALL sins that Jesus accomplished on the cross. There is absolutely nothing you can do to merit God's acceptance on your own . If you can by all means point out the scripture that says anything close to it.
There are lots of RUclips videos about Church mystics who have seen purgatory in visions, who have been taken there by their guardian angels and who have been visited by the Holy Souls to ask for prayers.
There’s also a Museum of the Holy Souls of Purgatory in Rome with artifacts scorched by the Holy Souls. The display consists of one large glass-enclosed case in a small room adjoining the sacristy of the Parish of the Sacred Heart in Prati, Italy.
Jesus sent Fostina to visit Purgatory with her guardian angel. She heard the Lord say, My mercy does not want this, but justice demands it."
The Holy Souls are suffering and it is our job as the Church Militant to relieve it. We gain their release by offering prayers for them throughout the day. Jesus. Jesus meek and humble of heart make my heart like unto Yours. My Lord and my God. This is just a few of the prayers we can offer for their release.
Praying for the Holy Souls covers all the works of mercy (Matthew 25 judgement scriptures) and the commandment to love thy neighbor as thyself.
Todd, keep this thought on the back burner. Did Jesus leaves us a a visible authoritative earthly authority to guide us until His return? Once you can except that, the other puzzle pieces will start falling in place. You may not completely understand a teaching but you will be able to accept it. God bless.
St. Faustina writes in her diary about visiting purgatory.
[The next night] I saw my Guardian Angel, who ordered me to follow him. In a moment I was in a misty place full of fire in which there was a great crowd of suffering souls. They were praying fervently, but to no avail, for themselves; only we can come to their aid. The flames which were burning them did not touch me at all. My Guardian Angel did not leave me for an instant. I asked these souls what their greatest suffering was. They answered me in one voice that their greatest torment was longing for God. I saw Our Lady visiting the souls in PURGATORY. The souls call her “The Star of the Sea.” She brings them refreshment. I wanted to talk with them some more, but my Guardian Angel beckoned me to leave. We went out of that prison of suffering. [I heard an interior voice] which said, My mercy does not want this, but justice demands it. Since that time, I am in closer communion with the suffering souls. (Diary, 20)
She called it a prison of suffering. Jesus speaks about prison. You won’t get out until you have paid the last penny. You don’t get out of hell.
Todd, even though I, a Catholic myself, clearly see Purgatory in Scripture, one thing we converts tend to keep coming back to is 'where's that in the Bible '? We have to remind ourselves that, while our Protestant brethren are a faith of Scripture slone, we as Catholics are a faith of Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium. Therefore, we hold the 'complete' faith handed down. Paul stated this when he said 'hold fast to the traditions we have taught you whether oral or written'. So, for us, everything does not have to be in Scripture though nothing we believe goes against Scripture. God bless.
The visionary from Kibeho Rwanda was shown by our Lady one peaceful place where people were singing, one place where people were in pain and another one where people were in pain, but not as the first one.
The visionary asked our Lady if she could see people who were singing and she told her she couldn't see them as longer as she was still on earth.
I'm a Christian (not catholic). But that was pretty good. I appreciate your insight.
Thank you......... CATHOLISM ISN'T Christian. They wish. That is the biggest baloney Satan invented.
All Catholics are Christians. Christian just means to follow Christ
Thank you. I am a OCIA catechist and this was explanation was so well done.
I suppose I've missed it. Can you please tell me where in the bible it mention "Purgatory"?
CONFLICT BETWEEN TWO AUTHORITIES: THE POPE'S AND THE BIBLE'S
This is the main cause of differences in beliefs & practices between the Catholics and the Reformed Churches (Protestants).
The SCRIPTURES are the writings of God's prophets and of the writings of Christ's Apostles and Disciples. The BIBLE is the collection of scriptures, the WORDS OF GOD.
MISINTERPRETATION of the scriptures are also a notable cause of divergence in beliefs within the Christian community.
"SOLA SCRIPTURA" is a Protestant doctrine, which asserts that the scriptures alone are the sole authority on Christian theology and practice.
But where else can we get our correct instructions and guidance on Christian faith other than from the Holy Spirit-inspired writings of Christ's personal witnesses?
CHRISTIANITY relies solely on the Apostles' and Disciples' writings for its existence -- otherwise, it's not Christianity.
The HRCC is not true Christianity because of its heavy reliance on its nonscriptural doctrines.
Thanks so much Dr Pitre and Catholic Productions!! As someone who just entered into the Church at the Easter vigil this year, from a non-catholic christian background, I'm learning so much from your clear, concise and scholarly videos!!
You guys have no idea how hard i (Catholic) had tried to convince people that purgatory exist. Seeing and hearing this increase my intelligence on arguing other religion.
It doesn't. FALSE Roman Catholic LIES
@trishaperry prove your point or retrac your comment
@@bobtosi9346 Jesus paid for my sins, do I don't have to pay for my sins.
@@TriciaRP Protestantism is a heresy :)
@@bobtosi9346 Can you tell me where i find proof of purgatory? Thank you
Man, I was so convinced before that it didn't exist but when this was now revealed to me, defintely made me rethink about it. There is so much to learn and seems like I just seen only the tip. Thank you for sharing this.
And it still does not exist. This explanation is misusing parables to make non-related conclusions. Purgatory is being read in the parables that does not even come near to the nature and purpose of what the Church decided to call purgatory.
@@Nolongeraslave be careful with that kind of mindset, my friend. Just because we couldn't prove it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I learned this lesson the hard way and just want to share it with you out of love and compassion for being in the same state as you before.
@@lelouchvibritannia2327
Which lesson did you learn? Did you visit purgatory?
@@Nolongeraslave a lesson about not jumping into conclusion without being certain. I didn't but it was someone so dear to me who already passed away and 2 other people who I personally know.
@@lelouchvibritannia2327 So you conviction came from a relative and other people who experienced purgatory fires testimonies? Where they "cleansed" afterwards?
When I was younger, teenage boy, I go to mass every day, often twice a day and remember well we learn about purgatory by these verse oftenly. I took it for granted because there are not many protestants around in the country I grew up to challenge our Catholic teaching. I think as a Catholic, a Christian we need to be equipped well with these knowledge so that we won't get weaken religiously. Now I feel I was lucky to have great Bible teachers, couples of them are Franciscan theologians still teaching in universities now.
Fantastic explanation, concise and erudite. I wish some of our Catholic priests see this video and shout it out from the pulpits. Woe, to my protestant brothers and sisters who do not believe in God's last Mercy, Purgatory is a temperance of Divine Justice through Divine Mercy.
What Brilliance! It enlightens me so much about the existence of Purgatory!
Doesn’t exist
@@retard6477Then why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started.
If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
@@retard6477 exactly it's from the pit of Hell it's not in the Holy scriptures Jesus washes away our sins completely with his precious blood the moment we put our faith in him and his finished work on the cross He makes us a new creation and gives us a new❤😊 it's that simple
Purgatory is unbiblical
After the first 5 minutes I was like: what are you talking about, I came to hear about purgatory... Am glad I was patient until the end because is was a beautiful explanation after all. Thanks.
The Bible is God’s inspired word, the holy Scriptures read it, and the truth will set you free. It leads to faith and salvation.
Another fine example of how the divine truth is implicitly revealed in Scripture.
Alex Lielbardis What does the bodily assumption have to do with the gospel? The gospel is all about Jesus.
@@jarrahe the Assumption of Mary never happened . You will find the first reference to the assumption of Mary around 280-320 AD and it was supposed to be witnessed by all of Jerusalem and yet the new testament writers did not record such an important event?? In the new testament you have 20 verses that reference Mary by name and not one of those verses show Mary to be anything more than the mother of Jesus her firstborn and her other sons and daughters. No one I know is downplaying Mary , she is the mother of Jesus who happens to be the savior of the entire world.
@@jarrahe Always good to use the phrase " can be seen very clearly from the scriptures alone, " and then not provide any evidence whatsoever.Matthew and Mark both record the children of Mary . Perpetual virgin? When you have a hymen and it is broken during childbirth and you then have sex with your husband and have other children you tend to be NOT a virgin anymore. Mary was born as a sinner just like everyone else. She was not pure and she was born under the law that we are born under.
she was a perpetual virgin who had no children besides Jesus
There is no verse in scripture to have any basis for believing this . You find this teaching in the Catholic church not in the bible.
@@jarrahe I have a glass of water , it is full to the brim to the point of overflowing . You are telling me that
1. Mary was full of the Holy Spirit and there was no possible way that she would be a sinful person.
2.Whereas Jesus was born without sin it follows that His mother must be without sin and that would mean that Mary's mother would be without sin as well. How far back must you go, with being born without sin, to not compromise the birth of Jesus?
My glass of water being as full as possible is still a glass , and the fact it is full to the point of spilling does not make it not a glass anymore. Romans 3:23 tells me that God used Mary just as He uses others to perform His works. Show me in scriptures where Mary is alluded to in being without sin? Hints in the old or new testament ? Where did the early church fathers get their inspiration to call Mary the immaculate conception? Did the early church fathers believe the world to be the center of the universe?
Mary is the mother of Christians (John 19:27)
Who did Jesus give His mother to?
That's right He gave His mother to John the disciple, not the world . That is a great interpretation that somehow Mary is the mother of us all but the entire new testament is about the work of Jesus and the new testament writers devote 20 verses referencing Mary without any of those verses stating anything more than she was the mother of Jesus her firstborn.
@Michel Martinez You are correct there is no passage that indicates bible alone .
2 Tim 3:15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
This of course relates to the old testament which is what Peter had to work with when he got up to preach at Pentecost.
Jesus founded a church ,not a book is also correct . Jesus wrote the scriptures and 2 Timothy points out what those scriptures are for. The church has not remained faithful to the scriptures over time and has brought in doctrines that are false and misleading to the common person. The church encompasses the Catholic church and the protestant church as a group as you will not find anywhere in all of scripture any name attached to the believers to say they are better or more spiritual than the other.
So Jesus founded the church with teaching authority ,and can you point out what church that is ? You are taught that it is the Catholic church and protestants are taught it is the protestant church, so just where does one find the truth ?
Maybe that good ole guy named Paul telling Timothy what the scriptures are for, could be an indication of what the church should be believing and teaching ,without adding to it.
This is a beautiful explanation Dan Petrie. Although I am a cradle Catholic and believed inspiratory, didn't know the ref. in the gospels.
Thank you for such a beautiful explanation about this doctrine of purgatory basing it in the Gospel.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
Geovanny Fajardo
There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory:
Luke 12:35-47
35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”
41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?”
42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in
Luke 12:1-2:
1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known.
Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57.
Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36.
Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ.
There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you.
God bless you all.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 my good friend has the holy spirit revealed all this to you and when and who are your witnesses?.
@@generalnwankwo8689 Read the scriptures in context with every verse given to you as proof of purgatory and you will see for yourself that purgatory denies the finished work of Christ on the cross, who died for all of our sins and when we do sin Jesus is there for us, keeping His righteousness as a shield over us. 1 John 2:1,2 Everything we do as believers is through faith , and any works we do in faith does not get us any closer to God .
roman Catholic church has the CCC
CCC 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:
reference given 1 Cor 3:15
Context starts in verse 11 !
read what it says about purgatory and look at the verse presented , Now read the context and you see that
sin is not in question at all ,
repentance of sin is not in question at all, purification from sin is not in question at all, stain of sin is not in question at all.
No one is punished , no one is tortured , no one is barred from heaven, no one suffers pain they do suffer loss of what they could have had .
No one is burnt
so what is burnt?
1031 goes hand in hand with 1032 prayers for the dead and the quote from Maccabee's 12: is again ripped from context .
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.
Well does Matthew 12:31,32 actually say that sin will be forgiven in the age to come?
31:And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32:Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Do you see the emphasis on the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and not on forgiveness of sins?
but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
That means no forgiveness now or ever and it is not talking about sins , it is talking about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit!
So READ the CONTEXT and prove to yourself that what you believe is correct.
has the holy spirit revealed all this to you ?
Paul tells Timothy that EVERYTHING he needs to be THOROUGHLY equipped is found in the scriptures. As there is no contradiction between the old testament and the new testament we can look to God's word with confidence for what God wants us to know.
The Holy Spirit reveals God's word to us as we read it.
However we need to read it in context not in cherry picking season.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 No just answer the simple question, did the holy spirit revealed this to you.
No one can enter heaven unless we are spotless clean.Completely cleansed from all our worldly sins. Not one of us are righteous.The grace of god by faith saves us.🙏
Romans is clear that Christ did it all and apart from him nothing else is needed his death was all sufficient. We will never be cleansed 100% and is not a requirement for entering the kingdom:
Romans 5:
6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die- 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Isaiah 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed.
It's my first experience of teaching about purgatory excellent teaching
There is no such thing as purgatory. If there was such a place/idea, it would clearly be in the scriptures.
@@John3_16_Then why did the 1st Christians, who wrote the scripture and canonized it, believe in purgatory?
@@MasterKeyMagic cite your source. Yes, we all know you won’t be able to.
@@John3_16_ ruclips.net/video/fA9AzI7LiSY/видео.html
that didn't age well💀
@@John3_16_ Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny (Matthew 5:26)
The ideation of purgatory in the Bible can't get any clearer than that. Thank you, Brent, and may you continually be blessed by the gifts of the Holy Spirit for your works of evangelization. And may God protect and bless you and your loved ones more.🙏
THERE IS NO PURGATORY
@@markjapan4062 pergatory is the catholic church biggest money maker. they will defend it to the death.
@@peterzinya407 What is Joel Osteen's biggest money maker?
It could get a whole lot clearer if it was real
@@markjapan4062Then why did all the Church fathers say there is? They canonized the Bible
Absolutely insightful and refreshing take on Purgatory. I have never heard of this before. God bless you Dr Pitre
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
I wish this was the whole video instead of a clip. I think you’re right Jesus is talking about purgatory here. Being Catholic Christians we grow up understanding that purgatory exists. The classic go to Bible verse is 1 Corr 3:15, “he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.” but read the Chapter for context. Most of us have some attachment to sin so our souls must be cleansed, temporal punishment, Lk 12:59, 1 Pet 1:7, Mt 5:25-26 before we can enter into heaven. Rev 21:27. It’s like I can be forgiven for speeding but I have to do the time or pay the fine. I always wondered about all of Luke 12 not just the verses you talk about here because of the last sentence Jesus says, verse 59 “I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper” which seems to fit the concept of purgatory well. Great video Dr. Petrie.
I don't believe in purgatory, because I believe Jesus died for our sins, and no other action is necessary or possible on our part in order for us to enter Heaven. But I was interested in the Catholics thoughts on Biblical support for it. I tried 1 Corr 3:15, but there is no indication what is being discussed is after a person dies. It seems much more clear that Paul is preaching about people's faith is like a building, and that when trials come, poorly built buildings will be destroyed, but buildings that are built well will survive. For instance, when the Romans were persecuting Christians, a person with weak faith would agree to worship Caesar- their faith burns up in the fire of persecution. Similarly, Luke 12:59 isn't talking about after death, it's advice for Christians to settle their debts and reconcile with enemies in this life. Most of your other verses are similar, it's a stretch to try and read anything about purgatory in them when a much simpler explanation is available. Revelation 21:27: Nothing impure shall enter the Kingdom, yes, but we are made pure in the blood of the Lamb, are we not? No celestial torture is necessary. It would be nice if Catholics could point to just one verse where Jesus or one of the apostles said clearly, "Even those who believe shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven until they first pass through a period of purging of their sins..." But it doesn't exist. Not one verse. It makes me wonder if purgatory is true, why not make it a little more clear?
Absolutely amazing. I am catholic, but I never knew if I should believe in Purgatory or not, but now after watching your video it all makes absolute sense! Thank you much for your wisdom.🙏🏻
Why watching a video? You are supposed to reference the Gospel and the Apostolic doctrine JESUS GAVE His apostles. Not a man made catechism and NOT A VIDEO
LORD please 🤦
@trishaperry where do you think Jesus went while His body was laying the tomb before He rose?
@@bobtosi9346 The Bible says He went to hell. He went and got those that were faithful to the Father.
@bencalvert yes your correct. My question to her was in response to her challenge toThe Catholic faith.
What I know when Jesus went to hell is to pick up the souls ho died before he died to bring them to heaven . I am to understand that Jesus have to open heaven. Since Adam never commuted the sin after eating the fruit of the forbidden tree n paradise was closed . So not even the the profets like Moses n othors were at the bosom of Abraham n waited for heaven . Is that correct for my grand children ask question re Jesus went to hell on the 3rd day pls. Tell me if I was wrong . So I will not tell that to any person again. Thank u very much. Mrs. c. Godoy
Did I ever thank you for the time you take in earth in your teachings to save me time in purgatory? Well Thank You.
No time saved as purgatory is a man made fabricated lie. No scriptural basis for the doctrine started in the 12th century.
Why do you assume that Jesus isn't enough?
I just want to say thank you Dr. Brant for helping me through a very difficult time. I learn a lot about Holy Scripture from your videos and I am glad that I found your channel.
There is no such thing as purgatory.
@@John3_16_ humble yourself before God because without faith it's impossible to please God, Dr. Pitre has taught you about purgatory from the Bible, humble yourself.
@@generalnwankwo8689 I don’t need a “Dr.” To teach me about something that isn’t in the Bible.
@James Reacts ah… the only scripture Catholics prop up that says absolutely nothing about purgatory itself. Consider me unconvinced.
@James Reacts nice straw-man. I believe everything that is essential. I’m a sinner, maybe more so than you are. I need a savior. Jesus was sinless and died for my sins. I’ve put my faith in him and turn from sins that have become apparent in my life. No amount of groveling, church attendance, communion, praying to saints/Mary, confession or anything else can prove to god that I deserve entrance to heaven because I don’t deserve it. I deserve to be sent straight to hell just as you do.
No where does the bible speak of a place that describes purgatory or the need to be there. If god happened to send me there, I wouldn’t have an issue with it so I don’t get your point anyways lol. The only reason you believe in it is because some “scholar/figure-head” engrained the belief in you through indoctrination. Similarly to the other Catholic sacraments that are man-made and passed down akin to the Talmud the Jews passed down. On the other hand, I can read the book myself while I attend a solid church to help reach the best conclusions instead of relying on centuries of man made beliefs/indoctrination. Yes, I know all about the books removed from the scriptures. Can you please explain what they have to do with my salvation? I’m waiting to hear how they are going to change my life. 🙂
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Wow best explanation of purgatory that I've seen so far. Thanks for this!🙏
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
The bible never makes any mention about a purgatory. This false doctrine is from the Roman Catholic cult. Not from the word of truth.
Salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ alone! And Jesus saved perfectly and eternally.
The apostle John wrote in his gospel, in chapter 3, verse 16, that God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever believe in Him, shall not perish but have everlasting life.
There is no mention of any purgatory in the bible! Don't ever believe that lie from the RCC. Jesus loves you so much, that He died for you, theresamt. And if you believe in Him, you are saved right now, as apostle John already wrote.
Apostle Paul also wrote in Ephesians chapter 2, verses 8,9: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
So, salvation is a gift from God, because he loved you so much, that Jesus went to the cross for your salvation and eternal life with Him in Heaven.
Believe and be saved forever, theresamt
@@donaldgodin3491Then what do the last two servants of the parable in Luke 12 imply if it is not purgatory? I am skeptical on purgatory but Luke 12:42-48 has a strong case for it.
@@lowballinn Purgatory is impossible, because when a person dies, that person is already saved by faith in Christ (John 3:16) or lost without Christ.
In Luke's gospel, chapter 12, Jesus is speaking to people under the law of Moses. Nobody was saved by grace through faith, in those days. Every Jew was under the law, and was saved by following the law.
When Jesus died and resurrected, He established a new covenant through apostle Paul, by revealing to Paul, salvation by grace through faith, as it is written in Ephesians 2;8,9. Read it!
So, salvation in the church age, is not by works plus faith! It is by grace (a gift) though faith in Christ Jesus's blood for the forgiveness of all our sins.
The gospel by which we are saved today is clearly mentioned by apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 15;1-4. Read it and see by yourself how a person is saved under the New Covenant. It is by faith alone!
So, the purgatory doctrine is a false doctrine from Roman Catholicism, to keep you from the truth taught in the bible. Never trust Roman Catholicism for the truth. There is no truth in there! Believe me.
Believe in Christ as your personal Savior, and be saved right now and forever, according to God's promise in John 3;16.
There is no purgatory in the bible. Only Heaven and Hell. And when someone is in Hell, he will never get out of there. Never!
I wonder if Matthew 5:30 is also a reference to purgatory, because Jesus says, "if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away" in reference to the cutting off of all earthly desires to be with God in Heaven.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
I took that line literally and now have no left foot 😅
But in all seriousness I'm not that smart, thank you for explaining.. it makes sense now, casting away the flesh.
Dr. Pitre, your explanations make me want to become a Bible scholar. In the mean time, I will employ this explanation. Thank you so much.
Pina Mawya you are right to become a student of God’s word. Jesus said man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the word of God. Matthew 4:4. If we are eating breakfast ,dinner and supper and not feasting on Gods word then we are on a bad diet.Luke 23:34-44 tells us how the thief next to Jesus received his free gift of forgiveness and salvation and eternal. John 3:16 shows us clearly that when we believe in Jesus we get total forgiveness of sins.. Call on Jesus now and receive your free gift of forgiveness and salvation
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Thank you Seth. I think you misunderstood what I meant. My desire to be a Bible scholar doesn't mean I do not read God's word regularly. I attend Mass as often as I can and when I have some time, I read the Bible on my own. What I meant is to be like Dr. Pitre and the good folks over at EWTN (Fr. Mitch Pacwa), Catholic Answers etc. These are people who have dedicated their lives into studying the Bible and its roots.
For example, Dr. Pitre has explained so well the doctrine of Purgatory, which most protestants (if not all) deny. Just because it is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible, doesn't mean it's not true. In the explanation, he also briefly explained the papacy, again, another misunderstood topic by protestants.
That's what I meant. To be able to see the Bible in its entirety, to be able to read it in the language it was originally written in because that at times helps clarify some things which we, as modern day people, may not understand.
Pina Mawya what dis Jesus say ? I was encouraging you to read God’s word as Jesus told us. If you are eating a breakfast,dinner and supper everyday and not studying God’s word then you are on a bad diet.Matthew. 4:4 Jesus said Come to Me. You are never told to come to mass Come to me all of you and I will give you rest Mt 11:28. The only thing that matters is that you have received your free gift of forgiveness and salvation like the thief on the cross next to Jesus Luke 23:34-44. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus will have the free gift of eternal life and salvation. Romans 10:9-13.. We all need a savior or else we are lost. Call on Jesus right now and have life eternal
Do it
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Yes, Seth, you are right. In Matthew 4:4 Jesus did say, "One does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God" but He does not say that that is our sustenance. Jesus commands us on what to eat in John 6. Allow me to quote some verses as you have quoted some.
John 6:51, "I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever, and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world."
John 6:53-56, "...unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
Our Blessed Lord clearly stipulates what we are to eat. My question to you is, do you follow His commands or do you follow what you twist His words to mean?
Thank you! I’m a Catholic apologist and this is great! I love learning more and more. I’m a former anti Catholic Protestant
why did you go from believing jesus sacrifice was enough to believing its not enough.
@@peterzinya407Thats not how it is at all and you're screwed if you think you can get away with being a bad person but "bElIevE". All the Church Fathers rejected the idea of faith alone
@@peterzinya407 James 2:26
Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father..., Exodus 20 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." I was a Catholic, then I read the Bible. Now I'm a Christian.
@@johnnydirect7815 No, you're a heretic whose reading the Bible literally when Jesus spoke in parables and the OT utilizes symbolism. Read it again but from the 1st century Jewish perspective. Then it'll make sense
That was wonderful. I've been perplexed as to what happens to those who never heard of the name Jesus before through no fault of their own. Thank you!
Everyone does Revelation tells you that all will hear the good news.
They go to hell for their sins . That’s why we try to reach the lost all over the earth to spread the good news
@@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit69 what? It states in the Bible they will be judged by the written law in their hearts. "Gentiles who do not have the law keep it as by instinct, these men although without the law serve as law for themselves. They show that the demands of the law are written in their hearts. Their conscience bears witness together with that law, and their thoughts will accuse or defend them on the day when in accordance with the gospel I preach God will pass judgment on the secrets of men through Jesus Christ." Theres other areas stating men cannot be judged according to what they do not know or do not have reference to. Your statement is sketchy
@@theparadigmshift74 i believe that the grace of God will appear to all men titus 2:11 and that there are people with good morals following God’s moral ways of life but they are still sinners and can still reject him even though living moral lives. Anything good that they do comes from the creator anyways and reject him means that they will be separated from him but when judged they will probably suffer a few blows since they by nature didn’t harm people.
@@theparadigmshift74 The context is that "good men" who keep the law by instinct will have thoughts that either accuse or defend them, when they hear the gospel that Paul preached. The verse isn't saying that "good men" who don't believe in Jesus, yet keep the law by instinct will inherit eternal life. Your statement is sketchy as well.
We must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ, that each should be recompensed for what he has done in the body, whether good or bad.
Ave Christus Rex this judgment seat is for rewards. We will rule and reign with Jesus. If you lead people to Jesus you will get rewards and if you give a cup of water for Jesus sake you get rewarded.. The great white throne judgment is total destruction as no one can stand before a Holy God and live that’s why we all need Jesus as our advocate or substitute.
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 The passages says not "reward" but "recompensed" or "dealt what is appropriate to the circumstances" The same principle of "reward" is the very same as "punishment." It is not a different principle for both, since Christ is the same who gratuitously allows reward, and accepts the offerings of restitution by His fallen brothers-both of which, without Christ, would be impossible and unjust, and missing the mark: it is the same gracious Christ who has been pleased to reward good that allows us to make up for the dishonor we cause God when we sin-dishonor which is not repaired by Christ Himself personally-He dealt with our forgiveness but leaves such restitution to God's honor up to the individual who will have himself saved. Forgiveness of sins and the restitution for that forgiven sin are distinct in Holy Scripture. David was forgiven his sin but it cost him something less than the sin-a payment owed to God's honor which he had stolen from by sin.
Purgatory is the name we gave to Christ's "Last penny" doctrine which I have described above.
God bless.
Ave Christus Rex The thief on the cross didn’t pay the last penny
@@Wgaither1 How do you know? He didn't go to heaven. Even Jesus wouldn't go there. He went to spirits in prison, i.e. Abraham's Bosom, or the realm of the dead.
Ave Christus Rex So paradise is purgatory. So you suffer for your sins in paradise?
Thanks for the elucidation, Dr Pitre. But I think that our judicial system proves Purgatory too: every crime is punishable but all crimes do not command the same punishment. While some send you to life imprisonment, others send you to mere correctional facilities or even to the hospital. Am I wrong in thinking this way?
And none of those crimes are paid for after death! All the judicial system can do is punish you as you live. There is no verse saying the believer is punished for sins after they die.
@@bobloblawb2593 So are you saying that in our current condition, that is unholy, we can enter into Heaven (where nothing that is difiled or unholy cannot enter in).
@@clowney28 no I am not saying that at all.
You need to realize that you are a three part person . Flesh , which does not inherit the kingdom of God 1 Cor 15:50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
you have a mind will and emotions comprising your soul
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him.21 But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die.
and you have a spirit
. We were not created in the image of God we were created in the image of Adam , Adam was created in the image of God. Gen 5:1-3 Notice that Adam had children in his image! We are born spiritually dead and it is by the Lords grace we can be born again. Our spirits become alive .
Physically we are unholy, spiritually we are pure.
So as flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of God, our spirits born again by the power of God ,do. Eph 2:5-8 notice that even though we are sinners ,Christ does what with us? There is absolutely nothing we can do to make ourselves clean enough for heaven. Thanks to Christ dying on the cross for every sin I have done , am doing , or will do. 1 John2:1,2 Jesus knows that we are not heaven material ,but still died for us to make us clean .
There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory:
Luke 12:35-47
35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”
41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?”
42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in
Luke 12:1-2:
1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known.
Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57.
Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36.
Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ.
There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you.
God bless you all.
@@bobloblawb2593 "Thanks to Christ dying on the cross for every sin I have done , am doing , or will do..."
That's exactly the point. You had said it yourself that we keep on committing sin. Provided that our sin is light, there must be a cleansing process before we can enter The Kingdom of God since there in Heaven, there is no uncleanliness.
I do want to ask tho, if our deeds were the basis of salvation then why did Christ have to die? (This is the very question paul had answered somewhere in romans)
Also if christians were punished on the day of Christs return would they even be considered to be saved in the first place? I dont exactly remember where but there is a passage that talks about a shepherd separating goats and sheep, the goats I think were outcasted and the sheeps were accepted by the shepherd. This separation is absolute, and never once did it mention that there were imperfect sheep that had to be separated from the perfect ones
Thanks Dr. Pitre! And thanks Catholic Productions! :) Keep up the great work
Maximilian Caealot keep up the good work? Gehenna was just outside of the city walls of Jerusalem and poor people who didn't have the money to bury Thier dead would throw body's on to the heap if you check the Hebrew meaning of Gehenna it just means place of the dead I pray for these people who think they are smart but they are actually stupid
@@thomascaulfieldder3452 aw, yeah it's good to pray for yourself :)
Maximilian Caealot what do you mean by that could you elaborate
Maximilian Caealot you stiff neaked fool's that's you modern day Pharisees with your stupid religious order that's what you are I know alot about your church I was fooled by it for long enough but thank God in heaven he illuminated the truth to me through scripture Jesus Christ said you must be born again to inherit the kingdom of God and Catholics aren't born again you don't even know what it means to be born again so who are you going to listen to the Catholic church or Jesus Christ
@@thomascaulfieldder3452 I had the same hate you have. Then I studied for a year or so and went through RCIA. I learned a lot and I realised that despite what people say... they don't hate the Catholic Church. They hate what they think the Catholic Church is. I suggest to you, study the Church from both Catholic and Protestant resources. If you only study the hater's perspective... You'll only see what they want you to. I don't think you understand what you claim to hate. Regardless, peace be with you and I do hope you come to the fullness of the Faith.
In my understanding, the idea of purgatory is base on the belief of the immortality of the soul. It is CONTRARY to what it says in Ecclesiastes 9:5 "the dead know nothing..."
GOD said in Gen 2:17 “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall SURELY DIE.”
But the SERPENT said in Gen 3:4 “Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will NOT surely die.” This verse that originated from the Devil is not recognized by MANY Christians.
The bible is very clear that the wages of sin is DEATH. (Rom 6:23).
We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ who died on the cross as our substitute.
If we want to be purified(sanctified), we need to do it while we still ALIVE on this earth.
NEVER in the bible said the sanctification is the CAUSED of our salvation, but it is the FRUIT of our salvation. We are justified by HIS blood ( Rom 5:9) and sanctified by HIS SPIRIT (2 Cor 3:18.).
We need to understand what is SIN:
Action/ deed/ behavior
Character ( thought and feeling)
Our sinful nature (old man)
The solution to our sin problems:
Penalty of sin ====> justification by His blood
Power of sin ====> sanctification by His Spirit
Sinful nature (old man) ====> glorification in His second coming (1 Cor 15:52)
How can we believe that God of love created HELL for eternal torment (punishment)?
Can you be happy in heaven if you know one of your children, brother/sister, parent, or any of your friend go to hell and be there forever?
OUR righteousness is ONLY in Jesus Christ.HIS death is our SUBSTITUTE and His life is our EXAMPLE.
Do NOT put your destiny on Satan lied, believing to the immortality of the soul and purgatory.
Let us prepare our heart and life to His second coming that will take place very SOON. Accept Him as your personal SAVIOR and your LORD. Amen.
You are a heretic that has no idea what you are talking about, and there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
Purgatory
Isaiah 6:1-7: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory." And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him who called, and the house was filled with smoke. And I said: "Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!" Then flew one of the seraphim (*seraphim means "burning one") to me, having in his hand a burning coal which he had taken with tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth, and said: "Behold, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away, and your sin forgiven."
2 Maccabees 12:43-45: "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.".
Matthew 5:25-26: [25] Be at agreement with thy adversary betimes, whilst thou art in the way with him: lest perhaps the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. [26] Amen I say to thee, thou shalt not go out from thence till thou repay the last farthing.
Matthew 12:31-32: [31] Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. [32] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
(NOTES** - [31] "The blasphemy of the Spirit": The sin here spoken of is that blasphemy, by which the Pharisees attributed the miracles of Christ, wrought by the Spirit of God, to Beelzebub the prince of devils. Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinacy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent, and have recourse to the keys of the church. [32] "Nor in the world to come": From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, lib. 21, c. 13) and St. Gregory (Dialog., 4, c. 39) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and, consequently, that there is a purgatory or a middle place.)
Matthew 18:32-35: [32] Then his lord called him; and said to him: Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all the debt, because thou besoughtest me: [33] Shouldst not thou then have had compassion also on thy fellow servant, even as I had compassion on thee? [34] And his lord being angry, delivered him to the torturers until he paid all the debt. [35] So also shall my heavenly Father do to you, if you forgive not everyone his brother from your hearts.
Mark 9:48: [48] For every one shall be salted with fire: and every victim shall be salted with salt.
Hebrews 12:22-24: “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel. "
Revelation 21:27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.
1 Corinthians 3:12-15: [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Hebrews 12:29: "For our God is a consuming fire."
1 Peter 1:7: [7] That the trial of your faith (much more precious than gold which is tried by the fire) may be found unto praise and glory and honour at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:19: [19] In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison:
(NOTE** - [19] "Spirits that were in prison": See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach, after his death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned.)
Eskimo Man lol
@@Wgaither1 Not intelligent enough to say anything?
@@eskimoman000 I don’t have much time but please pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you in your study.
In the book of Peter and Corinthians, the authors gave metaphor as our faith is tested by trial so as the gold is tried/purified by fire.). You can not exchange this: we are tested by fire and the gold is tested by trial. It will make no sense.
The bottom line is that all our trials/tests need to be done BEFORE Christ appearing (His second coming). (1 Peter 1:17)
Regarding the “Spirits that were in prison”. Noah was the righteous man who preached for 120 years as “REPRESENTATIVE” of Christ. But no one believe that except 8 peoples who enter the ark. The Spirits in prison was ALL the people who were in bondage of sin AT THE TIME of Noah.
Check the video above at 12:05 - 12:17. This sentence is the MOST deception and contrary to the bible. We are not saved by our deed but by grace through faith in the blood/sacrifice of our Lord. Our righteousness is in HIM not in ourself. The wages of sin (regardless small or big) is DEAD. (Romans 6:23).
God bless you!
@@imandanpenurutan The Holy Spirit guided me to the Holy Catholic Church, and has given me the gifts of knowledge and discernment. My faith has been tested ever since my first Holy Communion, 1 Corinthians 3 is referring to Purgatory:- [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
So it states here that even if he shall suffer loss, he himself will be saved yet so as by fire. He is forgiven, but he has to pay the price for his loss in sin. Most of the scriptures do not make sense to us in this age, but only the infallible Magisterium, and infallible Sacred Apostolic Tradition of the Church can make sense of the scriptures that the Church canonised in the first place. You cannot teach me what the scriptures mean if you do not know, as private interpretation of them is forbidden without guidance from the Church.
Noah was not a representative of Christ at all, but the Ark is a representative of the Catholic Church as the only means of salvation. The spirits that were in prison are those who had not been judged yet. They were preached to and judged by Christ before He resurrected from the dead. This text is evidence of a third place outside of Heaven and hell which you cannot deny.
Your whole religion is contrary to the Bible, and I doubt that you even have an authentic Bible anyway. How could you possibly know what an authentic true Bible is when there are that many versions going around? Yes, we need the Grace of God to be saved, we have to have the TRUE FAITH (Catholic), the Blood sacrifice of Our Lord only opened the door to forgiveness, and we have to “WORK” for our salvation in fear and trembling.
Matthew 5:16: [16] So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
John 14:12: [12] Otherwise believe for the very works' sake. Amen, amen I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do, he also shall do; and greater than these shall he do.
Romans 2:6: [6] Who will render to every man according to his works.
Colossians 1:9-10: [9] Therefore we also, from the day that we heard it, cease not to pray for you, and to beg that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will, in all wisdom, and spiritual understanding: [10] That you may walk worthy of God, in all things pleasing; being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God:
James 2:24-26: [24] Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? [25] And in like manner also Rahab the harlot, was not she justified by works, receiving the messengers, and sending them out another way? [26] For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.
Revelation 20:12-13: [12] And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works.
Philippians 2:12: [12] Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but much more now in my absence,) with fear and trembling work out your salvation.
(**NOTES - [12] "With fear": This is against the false faith, and presumptuous security of modern sectaries. People will be judged by what they had done, rather than in what they said they believed. "Not everyone who says Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father", Matthew 7:21)
As a Catholic who grew up with Baltimore Catechism and nuns (a long, long time ago!), I never had it explained that purgatory is a Biblical teaching. I'm amazed. Every Catholic, child or adult, should know this in order to speak believably to our non-Catholic sisters and brothers.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
False doctrine. There is no purgatory and Jesus didn't teach on it as it doesn't exist
This is the first time I have heard a coherent Bible reference for purgatory. I'm impressed.
It’s a lie. Don’t fall for it
@@TriciaPerry-mz7tc I still don’t buy purgatory. Don’t worry.
I’m not impressed at all by this flimsy “argument”. Scripture really has to be stretched and twisted around to fit the (false) doctrine of purgatory. It’s abominable to think that our works and indulgences can lessen our time in purgatory or have anything to do with our salvation.
This is all a huge scam made up by RCC to extort money from people.
Jesus’ sacrifice was ENOUGH
We are saved by Grace through faith in Him
It’s really that simple. The Bible makes it abundantly clear.
The father of lies is behind this doctrine. Don’t fall for his seductive lies. Keep your eyes on Jesus ✝️
@@christopherbayne9061 Yeah it's always such a big reach. An extreme interpretation of something that they claim is "clear", but is absolutely not. Which is why they're really the only sect that believes it.
Thank you for this teaching. I appreciate that there are many spiritual places unaccounted for in Protestantism. As I deal with Protestants whose churches are too far removed in history from the historic churches (Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodoxies) I try to wake them to this point by reading a passage such as Peter where he tells of Christ preaching to the souls held in prison since the time of Noah. When I ask them where these people were held, since Christ went and preached the Gospel to them, they have no clue. Or I show them the Greek words Hades and Tartarus and ask why these are so different, but both translated as Hell. What frustrates me is that these Protestants more often than not think they know everything in the Bible, but they really are quite ignorant about the depth of knowledge in Scripture. I know, because I was like that. Now I hold what I know with an open palm so that as I read and study prayerfully and humbly the Sacred Scriptures of God I can allow Him to replace or add to my learning. That happens also from your short videos like this one. This is a valuable teaching. Thank you again.
You have a misunderstanding of scripture
@@geordiewishart1683 you exemplify exactly what I said in the comment
Those were the Watchers who left their first estate it's in the Book of Enoch they were Fallen Angels it's not the same as humans
@@caitlinsoliman1658 No. There were no "watchers" and Jesus never told us to "watch". I am a Biblical Greek scholar and i will tell you that it says stay awake, not watch. It is in contrast with sleeping, not with inattention. Paul makes exactly the same contrast, but your translators of the English Bible made exactly the same mistake because they did not consult the etymology. And you bunch of hooligans gang about acting like you know what you are exactly ignorant of. Jude calls this behavior that of false teachers. Repent of your ungodly behavior.
Agree. Grew up Baptist and never felt I knew Jesus or that those teaching about Him knew either. As an adult converted to Catholicism and that's where my knowledge of Jesus and the Bible took hold and started to form me to true Christianity 💗
I like his interpretation of this portion of the bible. Yet he himself said Purgatory is something that was later developed in Church doctrine. Nothing in the bible speaks of purgatory. When Christ dies and said it is finished.....He dies for all sin. That the sin of this world was paid. Remeber the thief on the right was truthful about his sin, Christ says to him " today you will be with me in paradise"! Its important to delineate God inspired scripture from Church doctrine translated and inspired by men!
but the paradise is not the heaven.
Jesus said today, you will be with me in the paradise but that day, jesus did not went to heaven.
He went to the place of the dead to have a sermon so that the souls there can be saved. That is purgatory
Just like the trinity, it was also later developed in the church doctrine. It was not revealed at one time. The early christians studied the scriptures thoroughly and that takes them some time to realize what was the scriptures are telling.
@@nathanielfabular9981 There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory:
Luke 12:35-47
35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”
41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?”
42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in
Luke 12:1-2:
1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known.
Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57.
Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36.
Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ.
There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you.
God bless you all.
The thief in the night was for the unjust, but ye, brethren are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief
Christ did NOT tell the thief on the cross that today he'd go to purgatory FIRST and THEN paradise. Christ said to the thief: TODAY you'll be with me IN PARADISE....😔🌼 🌼 In different scripture Holy Spirit said, TODAY if ye hear HIS voice, harden not your heart's. TODAY mean's: This Day!!!!
True, but maybe by that thief's suffering on his cross which Jesus could obviously relate to, and his full acceptance of his plight, he did his purgatory there and was made pure, as in he made full reparation for his sins there.
@@erikbunty2016 Perhaps. We won't know until we come to the end of the narrow way😊💝
@@erikbunty2016that's alot of eisegesis....
Actually Jesus did not tell the thief he will be in Paradise with him that same day; otherwise Jesus lied, because he went to his grave for three days and three nights. Besides nobody goes to Heaven after death (John 3:13). We are to wait in our grave (Acts 2:29) for our salvation (Luke 21:28) on the 2nd coming of Christ.
@@whosays2153 yes, because Elijah and Moses were definitely asleep in Mathew 17:3 🤦♂️
Please read your Bible
I want Heaven and to become a Saint. Holy Mother Mary please help me to get my heart on this path.
@Bloodhounder Who's The Holy Spirit "One" with 🤔. That's our gift from God The Father, be careful with Her. It's called Eternal Life for a purpose. I will obey the commandments and honor my Father and Mother. Viva Cristo Rey 😎
Tony G ask it in Jesus' name, dude. We will gonna be saved if we put our trust only to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There is no other name! God bless you.
@@darrenespinosa2640 Agreed. But, don't you think that Woman who is spoken about Crushing the serpent's head, just Might be the Queen Mother 🤔. Jesus Christ is the King and the Mother of the King is The Queen Mother.🤔
Dear Folks, She's right in front of You, and we have a Communion of Saint's who are Living in Eternal (LIFE), and they are All Praying for You and Me to Finish the Race. Just to remberize y'all's (IPOT)😁, We are The Victor's through The Cross. Viva Cristo Rey 😎
@Bloodhounder Jesus Christ, I Trust in You. And Thank You for giving Us the tools to fight this battle, Your Holy Family 😎
@Bloodhounder She's not a graven image, She is The Hand Picked Holy Mother of Jesus Christ our Salvation. Better be careful with how you speak of Her 🤔
Luke 12: has absolutely nothing to do with a man made doctrine of purgatory . Luke 12:21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.” is a direct tie in to 1 Cor 3:15 ,which is a favorite verse the Catholic church uses to justify their false doctrine. 1 Cor 3:11 tells you that you are building on a foundation , now correct me if I am wrong but you can not build anything with sin , so when you get to verse 15 you need to realize this has nothing to do with sin. The RCC would have you believe them, rather than what the scriptures teach.
Dr Pitre has accepted and teaches what he has been taught . I just do not see Dr. Pitre acknowledging that the Lord has fulfilled the law and saved us from all of our sins , and because of this we have the privilege of being with God in eternity by His son's sacrifice on the cross. If Jesus did not die on the cross for all of our sins then what is it that we can do to make ourselves good enough to merit God's love? Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Luke 12:21 is not good works.
Christ's death on the cross is like a "lead by example", whereas if He did not die on the cross for our sins, it would be more of a "do as I say, not as I do", which yields horrible results. His death on the cross was love acted out, perfected, the example we are meant to follow. We have God given freewill. I know it's hard to believe, but some people choose to reject God, just like Lucifer. You don't get to be a horrible person and still go to heaven.
Bruce, I agree! AMEN!
Nick K
Nice try, but no cigar
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The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. He took our place for us when went to the cross and bore our sins in His body on the cross so we are now made righteous before our Father in heaven.
Sounds a bit like sola scriptura. The usual definition includes allusions to attaining salvation only through sola scriptura and also words bordering on literal reading of the scripture words. This inevitably leads to fundamentalism in many denominations, which is false theology. The concept of scriptural authority is alien to many of the (yes, upwards of 38000) non-Catholic denominations, and this is a shame. Congregants who meet in such sole church groups and try to ascertain what is a correct meaning from scriptural writings borders on imprudence. It is fine to read the scriptures, meditate on them, but for what their true lessons and rules and truths are I rely on the authority and magisterium of the church, which is guided by the Holy Spirit, even though I can take away my own personal lessons also. Think about what the church has gleaned from the scriptures no "average" congregant ever could:
- Mary, and the Immaculate Conception - venerate though not worship her, and follow her preaching in her appearances such as Lourdes and Fatima. Mary is the new ark of the covenant.
- The Communion of Saints - we have confirmed that we know of over 250 saints whose bodies are incorrupt - not decaying - hundreds of years after their deaths. Many are visible for veneration, under glass, as St. Bernadette from Lourdes. Their intercessions for us and those we pray for are demonstrably invaluable. Miracles defy explanation.
- Purgtory - I rest easier know their is purgatory to mop up my imperfections.
- Transubstantiation (not consubstantiation) - my ability to receive our Lord, literally. Jesus did not say, "This is the symbol of my body...…" Hundreds of instances of Catholic consecrated hosts turning into cardiac tissue with type AB blood is earth bound proof of transubstantiation. (BTW, type AB blood is the type on the Shroud of Turin.)
- Finish this sentence from your scripture study: "You are Peter, and....." I am sure you can finish the rock language. Peter is present in every subsequent pope and I am thankful. They are NOT infallible in usual matters. If the pope said today that the sky is pink, then he's nuts and that will be addressed. We have had failed popes; face it, the Church is a divine yet human run institution. But, when he speaks ex-cathedra, regarding Church dogma, he is guided by the Holy Spirit and is infallible. And that has only been 2 or 3 times in 2 millennia.
- Confession, or Reconciliation with a priest. In your scripture study, didn't Jesus say that what the Apostles bind on earth is bound in heaven and vice versa? Priests and Bishops are the direct follow up agents of the apostles, available to us, today!
All of the above are not worshipped people or items instead of Jesus and the Father and the Holy Spirit, but each of the above provides paths for us to get to the Trinity, our salvation. I picture our various religions on earth as a model of the solar system. The sun is truth, God and heaven. Closest to the sun with many paths to it is the Roman Catholic Church. Nearby but a bit further is the Eastern Orthodox church. Further out are the churches not founded by Jesus but by men: Luther, Calvin, Wesley, King Henry VIII, all the way up to Osteen I suppose. The followers of these churches are good people and will get to heaven, but are just a little further away and have less help getting there.
So, sola scriptura is incomplete, though scripture forms the basis of all Christianity, including Roman Catholicism. I am not a scriptural fundamentalist, and I do not interpret scripture. But the Church Magisterium has my back and defines dogma, from scripture, with an authority which 38000 other denominations lack. If St. Mother Theresa was the holiest person on earth and lived literal sola scriptura as the sole root of her faith, but did no good works for the poor, thousands of poor would have perished. Bad news! Christ said we are saved through good works also, and in this life that is obviously the right thing to do. Pray, (I recommend to St. Faustina) as well as to Mary for spiritual guidance, as well as any other saints, as well as Christ, and consider RCIA. You won't regret a minute of trying these.
@@garyworth6046 - Purgtory - I rest easier know their is purgatory to mop up my imperfections
So Jesus who died on the cross for ALL OF YOUR SINS , missed a couple?
If St. Mother Theresa was the holiest person on earth and lived literal sola scriptura as the sole root of her faith, but did no good works for the poor, thousands of poor would have perished.
That seems to be the general extrapolation of Catholics against protestants , they think because we go by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross that somehow we spend our time sitting in coffee shops faithing. Ridiculous , we do good works because of what God has done in our lives and we do good works that God has given us to do .Eph 2:10
Pray, (I recommend to St. Faustina) as well as to Mary for spiritual guidance, as well as any other saints, as well as Christ, and consider RCIA. You won't regret a minute of trying these.
So at what time do you find in scripture that St Faustina and Mary have now become able to hear and act on millions of prayers . God can and does but I have not seen a scripture anywhere that says God has given His power to anyone else?
The wisdom and works of God are so vast that we will never understand them all. I am a protestant but during prayer I have seen deceased friends in many strange areas like caverns, abyss;, underground, but always wanting water. I knew they were not in heaven but not in a burinng hell either. Was that purgatory? I don't know.
Heb 9:27 refutes purgatory, and Luke 16:26 refutes movement of the soul in hell to anywhere else. So what you envision is not a heavenly reward for the deceased.
I think so, I've heard people having dreams like this
Since we've all sinned, we'll all spend time in purgatory. What does this say about the finished work of Christ on the cross?
Hi Dr Pitre...i hv been watching some of your teaching and got very impressed to know more abt a deeper meaning. I need to ask you abt what is the place that GOD stated to Moses in Deuteronomy 32:50 ? "You will die and be gathered to your people just as your brother Aaron..."? As Moses had trespassed against GOD. Is that also Purgatory ? Thank you so much 🤗
@Danny Ho
You stated: "Hi Dr Pitre...i hv been watching some of your teaching and got very impressed to know more abt a deeper meaning. I need to ask you abt what is the place that GOD stated to Moses in Deuteronomy @ ? "You will die and be gathered to your people just as your brother Aaron..."? As Moses had trespassed against GOD. Is that also Purgatory ? Thank you so much 🤗"
I would recommend the following article,
"Sorting out Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, the Abode of the Just, and Hell
What happened to Christ after He died?" (Catholic Bridge), because it has historical background as well as the Scriptures::
www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/sheol-hell-hades.php
And this one as well:
Did Sheol Become Gehenna After the Resurrection? (Catholic Answers):
www.catholic.com/qa/did-sheol-become-gehenna-after-the-resurrection
And this:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC):
PART ONE - THE PROFESSION OF FAITH - SECTION TWO -
THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH - CHAPTER TWO -
I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD - ARTICLE 5 - "HE DESCENDED INTO HELL. ON THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE AGAIN":
www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p122a5p1.htm
I think is Sheol. The place that Jesus visited after he died on the cross before He resurrected on the third day. In the Sheol were all the prophets and God's followers waiting for Jesus to allow them to get into paradise with His resurrection because Jesus paid the price for salvation.
Great video Dr. Pitre! Thanks for your faith-filled explanation of purgatory! God bless you in your ministry!
Giovanni Pagliari purgetory is not mentioned in the Bible he's just twisting scripture Jesus Christ said to Paul my grace is sufficient the gospel in the Hebrew meaning is good news getting purged after you die is not good news the gospel means we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone
Thomas Caulfield der The word Bible is not mentioned in the BIBLE. So why do you believe the Bible?.
@@generalnwankwo8689 Because the Catholics compiled the scriptures into the canon by the power of the Holy Spirit and have set out all the books that are God's word. Bible word not in bible is just a silly misdirection.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 You didn't answer my question, where is Bible mentioned in the Bible, simple Question, just like you question Purgatory?.
@@generalnwankwo8689 The word bible as you well know is not found in the bible nor is there any reference as to what books should or should not be in the canon of scripture. The Catholics inspired by the Holy Spirit compiled the scriptures into what we have now as the canon of scriptures and we call it the bible. BTW St.Jerome in the fifth century removed 7 books from the canon and placed them into reference for history only, as he felt they were not scriptural or sound doctrine . He was overruled by the church.
Everything that we are to know and believe is in the scriptures that God wrote for us . 2 Tim 3:16,17 explains it very clearly.
Indulgences and purgatory were brought into the churches teachings 1100-1200 years after the apostles died . There is no basis for indulgences or purgatory in the scriptures IF you read the context and not single out a verse only, to prove your point.
Thank you so much for this! Will be sending this to my friends who don’t understand Purgatory
26And besides all this, a great chasm has been fixed between us and YOU, so that even those who wish cannot cross from here to you, nor can anyone cross from there to us.
Matthew 5:25 Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while YOU are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26Truly I tell you, YOU will not get out until YOU have paid the last penny.
Purgatory not only claims that Jesus did not completely deliver the world including you from sin 1 John 2:2 but that somehow someone else can pray you out of purgatory which Matthew 5 says you are responsible for getting yourself out. It has nothing to do with being dead . Jesus and the apostles never spoke about some fantasy place to clean yourselves before heaven , they did not ever claim that Jesus only died for most of your sins, and they always claimed that the spirit was separate from the body and the spirit being born again is what is required for salvation. We are created in the image of Adam we are not created in the image of God Gen 5:1-3 We repent of our sins and instantly ware placed in the heavenly realm to be with Jesus Eph 2:5-8 1 Cor 15:49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man. 50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
There is no biblical basis for the human-created concept of purgatory. In this video, the speaker attempts to use this biblical text to deduce that there is such a thing as purgatory:
Luke 12:35-47
35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table, and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”
41 Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?”
42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men, and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
Dear souls, once more I exhort you to read scripture and consider the full context. Do not be deceived by lack of due diligence. In this particular case, we need to consider the full chapter i.e. Luke 12. In this case, let's consider what Jesus says in
Luke 12:1-2:
1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. 2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed or hidden that will not be made known.
Notice that in 12:41 Peter's question was "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?", at the beginning of the text Jesus is addressing the disciples and that is why Peter is asking the question. From verses, 12:1-12 Jesus is addressing the disciples not the crowd. Then in verse 12:13, we read "Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”" at this point Jesus starts addressing the crowd from verses 12:13-21, then he starts addressing the disciples again from verses 12:35-48 and goes back the addressing the crowd 12:49-57.
Notice that the question Peter asked is not answered directly by the Lord, but Jesus uses a parable concerning masters, managers, servants, and unbelievers. From this, we can deduce that the master is Jesus, the managers are believers in leadership positions, servants are believers, and unbelievers are lost-souls, therefore this parable is concerning believers, saved by faith in the fact that Jesus is Christ, the Son of the living God. In verse 12:42 Jesus asks “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?" Jesus answers Peter with a question that contains his answer mainly this is concerning "faithful and wise managers" i.e. believers in leadership positions. The servants who God will give leadership positions are those who are "ready for service and keep their lamps burning, like servants waiting for their master to return" i.e. servants who keep the faith believing that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God" as stated in verses 12:35-36.
Then Jesus refers to a servant that doubts the faithfulness of God by doubting the fact that Jesus in did will return i.e. verse 12:45 "My master is taking a long time in coming". Therefore this is a leader that loses the faith and no longer believes in the second coming of Jesus and therefore denies that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", this leader starts abusing the believers under his care and using them for his personal gain, this servant is guilty of hypocrisy as stated in verse 12:1. This kind of leader is no longer a believer and therefore was never a believer and "Jesus will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers" as stated in verse 12:46. The next category is verse 12:47, "the servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants" this servant will experience the consequence of their lack of commitment to Christ even if deep inside they know that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.", they will not enjoy the fruits of the Holy Spirit "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness" and will find themselves suffering in the middle of the storm without comfort even though they are saved by grace. Then is the believer in verse 12:48 "the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment", this is the believer that neglects to put everything in prayer and supplication, who is unable to count his or her blessings and therefore is anxious unable to depend on God, contrary to what Jesus says in verse 12:22 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear." Then Jesus finishes with a very strong warning for all of those who desire leadership positions, verse 12:47 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.". As you can see the most severe of consequences is for those who desire to serve God in a leadership position. If you desire to serve God in a leadership position make sure your faith is strong and you are willing to sacrifice everything for Christ.
There is absolutely no support for purgatory in the scripture cited by this video. I beg of you don't be deceived, seek the truth in scripture, meditate in the word of God, and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you.
God bless you all.
@@gffajardo Yes their is a Purgatory
@@gffajardo AMEN!
Part 1: The Profession of Faith (26 - 1065)
Section 2: The Profession of the Christian Faith (185 - 1065)
Chapter 3: I Believe in the Holy Spirit (683 - 1065)
Article 12: "I believe in life everlasting" (1020 - 1065)
III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY ⇡
1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.
1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned. 606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire: 607
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come. 608
606. Cf. Council of Florence (1439):DS 1304; Council of Trent (1563):DS 1820; (1547):1580; see also Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336):DS 1000.
607. Cf. 1 Cor 3:15; 1 Pet 1:7.
608. St. Gregory the Great, Dial. 4,39:PL 77,396; cf. Mt 12:31.
Part 2: The Celebration of the Christian Mystery (1066 - 1690)
Section 2: The Seven Sacraments of the Church (1210 - 1690)
Chapter 2: The Sacraments of Healing (1420 - 1532)
Article 4: The Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation (1422 - 1498)
X. INDULGENCES ⇡
The punishments of sin ⇡
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1472 To understand this doctrine and practice of the Church, it is necessary to understand that sin has a double consequence. Grave sin deprives us of communion with God and therefore makes us incapable of eternal life, the privation of which is called the "eternal punishment" of sin. On the other hand every sin, even venial, entails an unhealthy attachment to creatures, which must be purified either here on earth, or after death in the state called Purgatory. This purification frees one from what is called the "temporal punishment" of sin. These two punishments must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without, but as following from the very nature of sin. A conversion which proceeds from a fervent charity can attain the complete purification of the sinner in such a way that no punishment would remain. 84
84. Cf. Council of Trent (1551): DS 1712-1713; (1563): 1820.
In the Communion of Saints ⇡
1475 In the communion of saints, "a perennial link of charity exists between the faithful who have already reached their heavenly home, those who are expiating their sins in purgatory and those who are still pilgrims on earth. between them there is, too, an abundant exchange of all good things."87 In this wonderful exchange, the holiness of one profits others, well beyond the harm that the sin of one could cause others. Thus recourse to the communion of saints lets the contrite sinner be more promptly and efficaciously purified of the punishments for sin.
87. Indulgentiarum doctrina, 5.
1498 Through indulgences the faithful can obtain the remission of temporal punishment resulting from sin for themselves and also for the souls in Purgatory.
Fantastic! Thank you Dr. Pitre and the entire AWESOME staff at Catholic Productions! I've always used 2 Mac. 12 and 1 Cor. 3 as scriptural basis for Purgatory, but this coming from Luke 12 is even better!
There is no Purgatory. These are lies by the Roman Catholic Church. I be glad when God put them all in the bottomless pit. Clink
Ezekiel 18:23 “‘Do I take any delight at all in the death of someone wicked,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘[and] not in that he should turn back from his ways and actually keep living?’
If, even a DEATH of a human being is something repugnant to God, the RCC's vain attempt to make God into a monster plays into Satan hands.
@@tongakhan230 you need to start using logic in your thinking instead of anti-catholic bigotry
@@silveriorebelo8045 : I quoted the scriptures.
It is common knowledge that the RCC's teachings are not based on the Bible.
I was only trying to help.
@@tongakhan230 you cant help catholics using the bible. they are bewitched. they hate the bible.
Eternal Rest grant unto the souls in purgatory Oh Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace.
Wow, you hit the nail in this teaching. So very enlighthening to us all. Thankyou.
Yep he hit the nail of lies deeper into your soul, sad indeed
Believe in God's word... not man's.
I've been researching this so I can try and convince my protestant brothers and this is the best video I have found! Thank you for explaining it so clearly. As you said, none of the other videos I could find really talked about anything Jesus said and, although I don't believe in Sola Scriptura, I had to find as much biblical evidence I could for my protestant brothers that are more inclined to believe something that is in the bible!
When I read this the first time ir dawned on me that there does exist some form of punishment (other than Hell) for those who did not fully live their lives as they ought to have done. Thanks.
satan has convinced you jesus sacrifice wasnt enough.
All these catholics with their works based salvation are going to hell. I pray they accept the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. Oh and purgatory is not in the bible. But not calling a man father is and a pastor should be the married man of one wife have rule over his household well. Also thou shalt not make any graven images is also in the bible. Salvation is by grace alone not of works lest any man should boast. Poor twisted Catholics.
@listenup872 so you have to believe faith alone for faith alone to work? So faith in Christ doesn't work if you don't believe as a Protestant? That's rather convenient.
Wow! I must be so sleepy that night when I was watching this.
But now, I want to thank you Dr. Pitre for sharing the very good verses from the book of Luke to make me understand our doctrine of Purgatory.
Yep you must have been tired to be able to thank him for spreading lies
@@vincenzofranz Yea just like James White was caught spreading lies
@@vincenzofranz it's the truth. Not lies. It's just that you don't want to know or understand. If you don't believe it, then it's your problem. So keep your mouth shut.
@@vincenzofranzThen why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started.
If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
@@MasterKeyMagic if you want to add and/or subtract to God’s word and follow a teaching of purgatory that is not even close to be found in scriptures you are entitled to it, go ahead. You are just insulting Jesus by telling him that what he has done on the cross for you is not enough, a purgatory is needed even though he made it CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT HIS BLOOD PURIFIES YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Waow!!! 👍 Thank u Dr Petri 4 revealing 2 us th existence of purgatory in th Bible. It has so hard 2 convince those who don't believe that it exist. I didn't know where refer in th bible. Now I know! Glory b 2 God 4rever!!!!
You cannot twist one parable and then turn it into a doctrine which had never before been mentioned.
Papacy = mystery Babylon
@@geordiewishart1683 fake churches = 50,000 manmade protestant churches.
All these protestants trying hard to spread the half truth... Anyway I dont know why protestant was necessary in the first place. There were other form of Christiany other than the Catholic during what they so called reformation, where they could easyly join those churches. It proves that they are Just anti Catholics.
Well, as a Protestant, that is a title that got my attention.
It is an interesting take, but here is why its wrong.
*Ignores the immediate context*
It is interesting that you only read half of verse 48. You cut off Jesus's own explanation for the parable, in order to insert your own. What is the purpose of the illustration of the 3 unprepared servants _according to Jesus?_ "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."
Seems to me this has nothing to do with eternal vs temporal punishments. The point of the parable is that everyone will be held accountable according to the knowledge he received. The person who did not hear the gospel, will not be punished like the one who did hear it but ignored it, and the one who heard and ignored is will not be punished as the one who knows the gospel and still willfully surrender himself into depraved sin. This is not about different _kinds_ of punishment, it is about different _intensities_ of punishment.
*Ignores what the rest of scripture says on this topic*
The explanation assumes that it is possible to be guilty towards God, but not _so_ guilty that you quite deserves hell. Even that ignorance can be counted as innocence. What does the Bible say?
_The extend of God's Wrath_
Romans 1:18-23
God has revealed Himself through nature so that _no man_ can have an excuse before Him. All people _knows_ that God exist, but they willfully suppress this knowledge. God holds _all people_ accountable for this. So even the person who never heard of Jesus, received revelation from God which he suppressed, and therefore is guilty.
Romans 2:12,14-15
God has given all people a moral conscience to distinguish between right and wrong, and when they willfully goes against their better judgement, they are accountable to God.
Romans 3:9-20, James 2:10, Romans 6:23
Paul declares _all people_ wicked and under the wrath of God. And I'll throw James 2:10 in there to demonstrate that there is no "ignorant innocence". All people have moral conscience, all people break their conscience, a law breaker is a law breaker, and the wages of sin is death. Not mortal sins, all sins. There is no distinction there.
_the extend of God's mercy_
Romans 8:1
"Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" No condemnation for those in Christ. There is no purgatory where those in Christ still needs to pay for some of their sin, Christ has payed for it all, Christs atonement is sufficient Hebrews 10:1-18. To say that we need to pay off some of our own sins is to diminish the finished work of Christ, and to belittle what He has achieved for us.
But then I hear the accusation of Romans 6:1 "What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?" But Paul has already answered that question. "We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?" Indeed, Christ have not just come to free us from the consequences of sin, but also from the slavery of sin (Romans 6:17-18) Not sinning is not merely a human choice, it is a supernatural intervention from God who recreated you into a new creature: (2 Cor 5:17-18) This idea of God being the One who conforms our desires to His is even in the old Testament Ez 36:26. Galatians describe our good works as the fruit of the Spirit, and Jesus says by the fruit you will know a tree. The fruit doesn't determine the tree, the tree determine the fruit. We don't do good works in order to put ourselves into the right relationship with God, we do it because God has restored us into the right relationship with us. The causal direction here is important. Saving faith inevitably leads to good works, not the other way around. God gifts us with the desire to do so.
There is no room in scripture for purgatory. It never mentions implicitly or explicitly, because without Jesus we all go to hell, and Jesus is a perfect savior for those who come to Him. There are *no condemnation* for those who are in Christ. There is nothing in the middle.
*Reading an unbiblical concept into the text where it does not exist*
The entire interpretation given here _assumes_ the existence of purgatory, and _insert it into the text._ There is no way you can come to the conclusion of purgatory by reading this text without presupposing the thing you're trying to prove. And there is no biblical support for such a concept anywhere else in scripture. Before you can say this passage refer to purgatory, you must first prove from scripture that there _is_ such a thing, and you have not done so.
2 Macc 12: Setting aside the issue of canonicity, there is nothing here that even remotely point to the existence of purgatory. We must distinguish in the Bible between prescriptive narrative, and descriptive narrative. Just because the Bible describe people doing things, doesn't mean that God actually endorsed their actions. This is clearly descriptive narrative, so we cannot make any conclusions regarding divine revelation from the actions of these men. Moreover, they were praying for people who died as unrepentant idolaters. There is no forgiveness for that. These people did not go to purgatory, they went to hell, and the sin offering would not change that. Gods law is clear on this matter. Even if we assumed that these people were saved due to the sin offering, the text does not say where these people were in death, you are inserting purgatory into the text, but it simply isn't there.
3 Corinthians 3:15:
Again, there is nothing about purgatory here. You have to completely ignore the context of the text to make this about purgatory. This text is a warning to preachers of the Word. They are builders, they are building the congregation, and their preaching is the material they use to build with. God is warning preachers here to preach His word thoroughly purely and fully, for if they preach a weak and incomplete gospel that fails to bring repentance and conversion, then their work will be undone, and they will be saved "but only as through fire.". Read carefully. They will not "be saved through fire", they will be "saved *as* through fire". They won't actually touch any fire. They will face Gods anger for their sloppy work, but they will be saved. That is all the text says here. Nothing about a temporary cleansing of sins in a pit of fire.
Thanks so much for your enlightenment. It's quite inspiring. God bless you. Thanks to God for his grace on his church
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
This is also why we have the sacrament of reconciliation and the anointing of the sick (most often done for the dying). So sins (grave or not) be forgiven. Great explanation. I learned a lot. God bless!
Felipe Van Leeuwen I am not Roman Catholic because Rome denies the gospel. Rome has a gospel but not the gospel and, in reality, their gospel damns not saves because it explicitly denies that justification comes by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. Rome accurately understands the Protestant position and unapologetically anathematizes it. To the work of Christ it adds the work of Mary. To the intercession of the Savior it adds the intercession of the saints. To the authority of the Bible it adds the authority of tradition. To the free gift of salvation it adds the necessity of human effort. In place of the finished work of Christ on the cross it demands the ongoing sacrifice of the mass. In place of the permanent imputation of Christ’s righteousness it substitutes the temporary infusion of works righteousness. In so many different ways it explicitly and unapologetically denies truth and promotes error. The Roman Catholic gospel is a false gospel.
I am not Roman Catholic because Rome is not the church. Rome claims to trace her lineage in an unbroken line that extends all the way back to the apostle Peter to whom Christ said, “Upon this rock I will build my church” (Matthew 16:18). In this way she says that she is the church with the power and authority to demand the allegiance and bind the conscience of every Christian. I do not recognize such lineage and, therefore, do not recognize such authority. Her claims are unprovable and represent a distortion of the Bible’s claims about Christ’s church. To be Catholic I would first have to bend the knee to the pope as the successor to Peter and acknowledge the Church as the continuation of what Christ began through his disciples. I cannot, because the Roman Catholic Church is a false church.
I am not Roman Catholic because Catholic worship is idolatrous. Protestants commonly charge Catholicism with promoting worship of Mary or the saints. Under the tutelage of R.C. Sproul I came to understand that this charge requires nuance and is, to some degree, a matter of defining words such as “venerate.” And yet there is undeniably a seed of what I must acknowledge as idolatry. This was affirmed during a recent trip to Europe where in Germany and Austria I visited Catholic cathedrals and saw the veneration of bones, relics, and icons, and where I saw the Church advocating and promoting prayers to Mary and the saints. Here was Catholicism in its full bloom and it was as alarming as it was tragic. I saw people who have not known the joyous freedom of the gospel desperately extending worship to or through Mary and the saints. They did it all under the guidance of their Church. In many of its forms Roman Catholic worship is idolatrous.
I joyfully affirm, of course, that there are true believers within Catholicism and that what is true of Rome’s official doctrine is not necessarily true of all of her adherents. Yet the salvation of these brothers and sisters has come despite the teachings of the church, not through them. I appreciate the point Leonardo De Chirico highlights here:
What refers to the Catholic Church in its doctrinal and institutional configuration cannot necessarily be extended to all Catholics as individuals. The grace of God is at work in men and women who, though considering themselves Catholics, entrust themselves exclusively to the Lord, cultivate a personal relationship with Him, read the Bible and live as Christians. These people, however, must be encouraged to reflect on whether their faith is compatible or not with belonging to the Catholic Church. Moreover, they must be helped to critically think over what remains of their Catholic background in the light of Biblical teaching.
I am not Roman Catholic. I am not Roman Catholic because I was raised to understand that Catholic doctrine is opposed to Scripture. But even more, I am not Roman Catholic because through my own examinations I came to see that she denies the gospel of free grace, that she claims authority that is not her own, and that she promotes worship that detracts from the worship we all owe exclusively to our God.
@@Wgaither1 I think the length of your answer shows how much effort you need to do just to justify your stand and make it "right." Perhaps you trust "your own" examinations more than you trust the Gospel and those whom Jesus has chosen to shepherd His people until he comes back again. I totally respect your opinion, but I disagree with the things you said about how we deny the Gospel etc. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, Son of the Father, and the Spirit was sent to keep the Church from going astray. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, doesn't matter what you think, that faith of mine on the Truth does not change. May you grow in God's Spirit wherever you are right now, and you'll never be astray. God bless you in Jesus Name. :)
@@Wgaither1 Rome has nothing to do with the Catholic Church. Roman Catholic refers to the rite of worship not the city of Rome
I John 1:9
“If we confess our sins HE is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to forgive us of all unrighteousness.”
Confess your sins.... to God, and have faith in the Blood of Jesus, not the cup but the Cross.
Matthew Pourciau that is true, thank you Jesus I can come to you when I sin and seek forgiveness.
Ironic considering we Catholics confess our sins to God every other week through one of His ordained priests.
I have zero faith in the cup. No faith at all. But that Precious Blood of Jesus in that cup? I have all kinds of faith in that because that Blood washed away my sins.
Some consider this a hard saying. They fall away....
Alice .Red
God will not receive that.... “Father I had sinned”
Who is the Father??? We should be confessing to...?
George Penton
I call Catholicism heresy, the followers think they are saved by the Sacraments. When God is demanding sinners REPENT OR THEY WILL PERISH
PERSONAL NOTES:
0:00 Introduction
0:45 Parable of the thief in the night. -Luke 12:39
3:20 Peter's question and Jesus' response. -Luke 12:41-42
6:27 The parable of the faithful (and not so faithful stewards) -Luke 12:43-47
8:57 Two more options for the not so faithful.
10:27 Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. The faithful, the wicked, and the ignorant & unprepared servants' rewards.
If Christ's shedding of blood on the cross paid the debt for our sins, why do we have to pay for them again? Isn't this the same thing as saying that His sacrifice was insufficient? I thought Salvation was, we owe a debt, we are guilty of our sins, and Christ paid that debt on our behalf on the cross. If the debt is paid, we don't need to pay it again. If, however, we DO need to pay again...doesn't that clearly imply that Christ's paying of our debt wasn't enough? I'm sorry for being confused by this point. I did understand the concept laid out regarding the 4 servants, I just can't square it with Christ's redemptive sacrifice. I welcome any helpful information, I'm honestly trying to understand. Thanks!
Kevin Kelly. I can see your point of view. Jesus died for our sins =100% True. The problem is NOT in Jesus. The Problem is found with We the Individuals who are not being faithful nor appreciative of Jesus Free Gift of Salvation for us. Case scenario: What happens when I am saved, baptized, accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, go to church regularly, do not steal or kill or disrespect my parents, read and study the Bible cover to cover, preach the gospel, be patient, kind and generous (all Fruits of the Holy Spirit_) and yet in my weaknesses I may repeatedly violate through my actions one or more of the 10 Commandments. For example, I may cheat on my spouse once or a few times ( knowing it is wrong and offensive to God) but I keep doing it due to my Human Weakness or any other reason. (by the way this just an example:) I die while still not repenting of my cheating sins. OK? So I die. Will I go to Heaven? because I have been saved, and respected all of the commandments (except adultery) or Will I Go to Hell? because I intentionally committed adultery for months or years? Jesus is PERFECT. We, Humans, Are IMPERFECT. That is how I see it. Will GOD send me to HELL (thus I lose my saving Grace) or would GOD allow me to live in Heaven with HIM (and ignore my wrongdoings?) The answer to this question has helped me better discern the answer to your question for which I have prayed for many years in my Journey with Jesus Christ, my Lord, and Savior. God bless you.
Christ's shedding is a free gift which paid the debt for our sins ....and this enables us to get to heaven..true......yet sin(especially mortal sin) is a refusal of such free gift...and since Jesus has given us free will...then we still can go down there.
@@cottoon8837 I am sorry Cotto, I did not understand your reply. Would you be kind and clarify what you mean. Are you saying that I will go to Heaven because I am saved by Jesus Christ and he already paid for my sins & I am saved by HIM and accepted HIM as my Lord and Savior (yet I am willingly & knowingly living in sin) or I will go to Hell because (though I am saved and accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior) I did not do(live according to) what Jesus expects me to do? Mattew 15: 8. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
@@margot9373 What it comes down to is this . Jesus died for every sin that you have and will ever commit , just to bring you into His kingdom. Hebrews 4:15-16 Jesus has firsthand experience of what you are going through and still chose to die for ALL of your sins 1 John 2:1 Jesus is there for you ALWAYS. 1 Cor 6:11 this is what He did for you at the cross and there is no need for further cleansing , He has done everything for you to be with Him.
@@cottoon8837 What it comes down to is this . Jesus died for every sin that you have and will ever commit , just to bring you into His kingdom. Hebrews 4:15-16 Jesus has firsthand experience of what you are going through and still chose to die for ALL of your sins 1 John 2:1 Jesus is there for you ALWAYS. 1 Cor 6:11 this is what He did for you at the cross and there is no need for further cleansing , He has done everything for you to be with Him.
yet sin(especially mortal sin) is a refusal of such free gift...and since Jesus has given us free will...then we still can go down there.
Eph 2:5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved.
There is no passage of scripture saying that God will take His gift back or that you can sin enough that God's grace is insufficient for you. When 1 John 2:1,2 say that Jesus is there for you and forgives you , who are you to say that He meant most but not all sins?
Thanks Dr. Pitre for this great and fascinating explanation from the parable of Jesus pointing to a third temporary destination after death called purgatory!
He is great at making up stories out of nothing. You wish it is true, but it is not.
@Galaxy 2020
Aww... he's just trying Bypass the Cross!
@@Galaxy-ig8siExcept all pre-Nicene Christians, who knew the apostles and had the original copies of the bible, understood purgatory to be real. its the gnostics who didnt
@@MasterKeyMagic Purgatory is a lie from the RCC, to make money! The bible doesn't teach purgatory to get to Heaven. It teaches faith in Christ alone. See John 3:16
That man is a deceiver who does not know the scriptures and the truth that comes from God's word. The bible says that Jesus is the Savior of all men. And that by faith in Him, you have eternal life. John 3:16, Faith is all that is needed! Not by works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2, verses 8,9.
What a phenomenal explanation for such a controversial topic. The deeper i go into my faith and the more the Father reveals to me the more i understand the beauty of this doctrine. The issue Protestants have confuses what is of man and what is of God. Purgatory is not something we do. It is God’s way of enabling us to gaze upon His perfect and holy face. Nothing unholy can come into His temple and we should be thankful. Nor does it negate the sufficiency of Christ’s death on the cross. If Protestants truly believe our works are nothing but dirty rags then how is it possible they shall not want a cleansing fire to remove all of their sinful impurities?
Tim there is no cleansing fire required as Jesus Has done EVERYTHING to make you acceptable to God. 1 Cor 3:15 is misquoted and out of context , start at verse 11 and you find that you are building on a foundation and you can not build a building with sin so verse 15 has Nothing to do with sin!!!
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 because protestants believed in once saved always saved, they never felt the need to follow Christ. :) no redemptive suffering whatsoever. If faith saves and once saved always saved then what need is there to follow Christ. That thinking is contrary to scripture
@@markv1974 no redemptive suffering whatsoever.
Could you show me where you got this concept from?
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 its the take up your cross and follow Christ. Our theologians like to use fancy words..
@@markv1974 no redemptive suffering
redemptive
adjective
acting to save someone from error or evil.
suffering
noun
the state of undergoing pain, distress, or hardship.
still can't see anywhere in scripture that we are to punish ourselves because of sin in our lives. I do see that we are to flee from lusts and not be like the world at all and OSAS does not refer to your flesh that will never inherit the kingdom, it refers to your spirit which God has placed in the heavenly realm the moment you repented and started to follow Jesus. Romans 8:1
One question: From Luke 12:47-48 where can i read that these are temporary beatings and not permanent?
Thank you for the insightful message for those who don't believe in purgatory especially the non- Catholics.
But Romans is clear that Christ did it all and apart from him nothing else is needed his death was all sufficient. We will never be cleansed 100% and is not a requirement for entering the kingdom:
Romans 5:
6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die- 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Isaiah 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed.
@JL-qe7of He gave us salvation but we can still reject it through disobedience, because we have free will. The one who loves the lord is the one who believes in his word, the one who believes is obedient to his comands, and the believer will have eternal life. If someone says he believes but deliberately rejects the words through his actions, he is not really believing. Read James 2.
This is also very enlightening. Thank a lot
Nobody disagreeing with this video is actually responding to the specific text cited and giving an alternative explanation. They’re just babbling incoherently.
Is half this comment section drunk? What is going on?
You are soooo incredible sir! I highly admire your knowledge and insight into scripture. One question, are you writing any new books? I already have all your books in my bookshelf.
Please read my comments in regards to this video God bless you.
@@gffajardo Oh yes! let me believe this random guy on RUclips over Brant Pitre. Give me a break.
@@BornAgainCatholic You are missing my point. Is not enough to listen to others, we should read scripture and meditate on our own, with the help of the Holy Spirit who reveals all truth. We are all humans and have our flaws. Be wise and consider different points of view. I commented here not for my own good or to glorify myself. I commented because I care about you and all others like you seek the truth. God bless you.
@@gffajardo No, you're missing the point. You're no one and Brant Pitre is a very respected scholar by Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox. You think you I'm going to listen to you over him? That's crazy. Especially, since you can't even get the Greek right between the Greek words "you" in the singular and "you" in the plural.
@@BornAgainCatholic You are right I'm nobody. My Lord Jesus the Christ is everything to me. I trust Him alone. He must increase, but I must decrease.
Thanks for this video 😊 i already understand this, amen
Thanks for enlighten my mind and heart, i accidentally wacth this video but it's worth watching, glory to God,
Jesus’ blood purifies us Isaiah 53:5. The punishment that brought us peace WAS UPON HIM!!
Wow! Dr Pitre just shed light on some of my doubts. Great work Dr
@Sonny Bruschetta More importantly Scripture says that we have the righteousness of Christ if we are saved. How could perfect righteousness be punished? This video is just twisting Scripture to fit a narrative.
"For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Corinthians 5:21
@Sonny Bruschetta About five years...when I really read my Bible for the first time and understood the Gospel message of Salvation...and knew I could not go back to incorrect theology and worship. I was raised Catholic and raised my family in the RCC.
I remember the last RCC service my wife and i went to....couldn't begin to understand the priest that spoke broken English. The lady in front of us was reading the church bulletin during the sermon. I felt starved spiritually.
I had a health scare that led me to Scripture...and from there there was no looking back. We now attend a local Baptist Church. The difference is like night vs day. Our kids are grown and don't attend any church.
@Sonny Bruschetta We are doing fine and living in God's Word. Our church is firmly rooted in Scripture. Thanks for your prayer offer.
@Sonny Bruschetta Thank you Sonny.
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Really excellent exigesis. Most other Bible commentaries miss this.
That actually seems more like eisegesis
Miss spelt eisegesis
Thank you, Dr. Pitre! Another fantastic explanation!
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
If what you say about purgatory is true, then Jesus did die in vain. All sinners who repent will be forgiven. There will be no beating or purgatory, for Jesus took upon himself the inequity of us all.
You are then subtracting scriptures ( Rev 22:19regarding sufferings or beating in purgatory presented in the video because it just conflicts your personal private interpretation of " Jesus did die in vain" if there is purgatory or that it infringes Jesus' sufferings.
IN Interpreting the bible verses there shouldn't be any conflict on among scriptures, otherwise, the interpretation is incomplete or wrong. To be able to make sense and not subtracting the purgatory verses, here is the explanation of doctrine truth:
"Purgatory is simply the last stage of sanctification. Sanctification in this life involves pain, for “For the Lord disciplines him whom he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives. . . . [And] For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant” (Hebrews 12:6, 11), yet no one says that suffering infringes on Christ’s sufferings. In the same way, the suffering during the final sanctification in no way infringes on Christ’s sufferings or implies they were insufficient.
The fact is that the suffering we experience in sanctification in this life is something we receive because of Christ’s sacrifice for us. His sufferings paid the price for us to be sanctified, and his sufferings paid the price for the whole of our sanctification - both the initial and final parts. Thus it is because of Christ’s sacrifice that we receive the final sanctification in the first place! If he had not suffered, we would not be given the final sanctification (or the glorification to which it leads), but would go straight to hell. Thus purgatory does not imply Christ’s sufferings were insufficient; rather it is because of Christ’s sufferings that we are given the final sanctification of purgatory in the first place."
I agree! It's a parable free for everyone's interpretations. Put purgatory in there or what you have What is important is that
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
Romans 10:9-10
Noe Carillo Don’t stop on verse 10.. continue the contexts till verse 15 and you will find that it is not everyone interpretation.. to have faith is to hear from those being sent (that means apostles)
@@tatuntatoong9937 "thus purgatirt does not imply Christ's sufferings were in sufficient, rather it is because of Christ's sufferings that we are given the final sanctification of purgatort in the first place."
That sounds cute but not biblical
@@tatuntatoong9937 Hebrew 12:6-11 doesn't say anything about purgatory brother.
I would like to understand what you mean in defending it's existence but it has to have something in the bible and not an extension of just our perceptions.
The idea of purgatory has roots that date back into antiquity. A sort of proto-purgatory called the "celestial Hades" appears in the writings of Plato and Heraclides Ponticus and in many other pagan writers.
Under the influence of Hellenistic thought, the intermediate state entered Jewish religious thought in the last centuries.
I'd like to see one bit of truth in its existence. But so far, nothing makes sense.
So I recently got into a debate with some family members regarding this passage. One SDA two nondenominational. When reading this parable, they seem to think that there are only three slaves that are being talked about. One that goes to heaven, one that goes to the unfaithful, then the third is the one who did not know (they claim that that one goes to hell but just receives a light punishment). The third servant thats talked about in the video is the one they combine with the second. So my family claimed that the one who went to the unfaithful just received a severe beating. I couldmn’t get them to see that there are four being talked about. Any help or guidance
That's why we need and Jesus left us a visible authoritative earthly church to guide us.
@@billlee2194that's the catholic church❤🎉
@@margaretfoley3239 Yes!😉 I've read the early non-biblical church documents. They are all 100% Catholic either in name, beliefs and practices or both. Mostly both. There's no way to disprove that. I've recently stared reading these documents in detail. I have completed THe Didache (50-70 AD), 1 Clement (80 AD), THe Epsitle of Barnabas (?). I'm currently finishing up Ignatius of Antioch letters then will proceed to Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyon and, perhaps, Tertullian. I've spot read enough of the remaining documents to know that they are also 100% Catholic. There was simply no other church around. Only heretics who taught things like Jesus did not come in the flesh or He gained his divinity by his own human efforts or the OT God was an evil God and the NT God was a good God, etc. Praise be to God for leaving us His church built on Peter. These early documents also clarify things in Scripture that can be difficult to interpret eg. The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, Baptismal Regeneration, Apostolic succession and church hieararchy under the Bishop to name a few.
Doc I am a catechist and I have been explaining purgatory using this but it is only now that I understood it. Usually uses 2Macc and the refining fire. Thank you so much brother
Can you please make a video about melchizedek
About his identity and his significance in the Bible
Google it
@@patrickjordan4073 interesting, can you prove this with examples of facts
He does explain Melchizedek and the priesthood that sacrifices with bread and wine, to whom Jesus is a priest of
Just type Melchizedek Catholic productions
Thank you,this is well explained .
For those interested, also look up LUKE 12:57-59 for more on Jesus' teaching, using a parable, to point towards purgatory.
It doesn't. They are trying to MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT. JUST WHAT THE Devil and Satan want. It is deception. Did God and Jesus the Apostles SAY PURGATORY?????
NO. WHY ARE you all believing what was NOT SPOKEN OF BY THE gospel in the NT
None of it. NONE.
YOU can't ASSUME
CATHOLISM Is based on Assumptions. Falsified stories to justify their RELIGION. LIES
Several other verses imply it as well, such as the ones that state that we ought to pray for the dead, not all sins are deadly, the ones put in a "prison" not to be let out until the last penny is paid, etc.
Praise God for this insightful video. I have been looking into this subject but some of the theological materials are just too deep for me.This is so easy for me to understand and to remember too. Thank God for all the people putting out good materials out there to help us better understand
why we belief what we belief. Alleluia. All Praise and Glory to God.
There is no such thing as purgatory.
@@John3_16_ WRONG
This is what happens when you do not read God's word for yourself and will accept what your peers in the roman Catholic church are accepting, without making sure that contextual scripture is being used. Acts 17:11 is an example to us and we generally throw our hands in the air and just accept what someone teaches instead! Jesus died on the cross for every sin you did , are doing, and will do . There is no stain of sin ,venial or mortal, upon you and you are assured of heaven because of what Christ has done not through anything we do.
@@lois2997 again Lois, instead of insecure personal attacks, please provide references with specific verses. You didn’t respond to my other same reply on this issue.
@@John3_16_Then why did every pre-nicene Christian believe in purgatory, reject tulip, faith alone and scripture alone? Some of them were students of the Apostles themselves, they had the original copies of the NT if not write some of it themselves, spoke the language, were actually there, canonized what you understand to be scripture, were given the scared oral teachings you or any other protestant for the last 500 years doesn't have, and martyred for the one church Jesus started.
If your dad wrote a book about your grandpa, do you know your grandpa better than someone 1500 years later with a different culture, environment and language? Because thats your argument.
Wow...never heard this. Thank you so much Dr. Pitre
@william cloud
The Chaplet of The Divine Mercy Novena
Fifth Day:
Today bring to Me THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO HAVE SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM MY CHURCH,* and immerse them in the ocean of My mercy. During My bitter Passion they tore at My Body and Heart, that is, My Church. As they return to unity with the Church, My wounds heal and in this way they alleviate My Passion.
@william cloud
The thief on the Cross more than likely did go to purgatory; according to the NKJV, And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” (LK23:43) What you interpret here is that Christ told the thief that "TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN HEAVEN," essentially stating that at the time of death the thief will receive his heavenly reward. The issue here is that you read this in English and, more importantly, with a comma - something that the original Koine Greek did not use. Hence, you choose to read this as "And Jesus said to him, 'Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” but, can also be interpreted like this: "And Jesus said to him, 'Assuredly, I say to you today, you will be with Me in Paradise.” See how the emphasis shifted there simply by moving over the comma that doesn't exist in the original Greek text? By interpreting the text in the latter manner, this allows for the existence of purgatory.
@william cloud I'm still waiting for your interpretation of Luke 12:42-48.
😂😂😂 really? Dr. Pitre showed where is purgatory in the Bible using Luke 12. Then you claimed that purgatory doesn't exist but you don't want to interpret those verses. Why? Because you can't so you changed the topic. 🤣🤣🤣
@william cloud Purple and red are royal colors, that everyone then in that region (and many still do, globally) used. Why? Because they were the hardest to get. Purple, for instance, was from a Phoenician beach critter. They were the colors (along with blue, if I remember correctly) that God directed be used to adorn the Tent of Meeting.
I'm not a catholic but enjoyed that! Thanks
I still disagree with the catholic religion whether he is a Jew or not! When he belongs and endorses that religion I promise he is no where near St Paul.. He only told us where they get the theory of purgatory what about confessing your sins to a human being as in priest when the Bible says there is One Mediator between God and man and that is Christ! And to recognize pope francis as Christ on earth and yet shows allegiance to this religion?! Sounds like he's trying to keep his job to me! Really Jeanette? St Paul?
Catholics don’t believe Pope Francis is Christ on Earth, that’s absurd. Please stop listening to your ridiculous pastor or whoever is feeding you this BS.
@@kevinlye5441 The One Mediator between God and man gave certain men the authority to forgive sins. John 20:23 "If you forgive anyone's sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."
So it doesnt infringe in the slightest agaisnt the One Mediator status.
Zé Nuno hmmm, so what about people in Asia who do not have access to a Catholic preist
@@Amber_Aviva That would be the servant who did not know what the master wanted, probably. Least beating. I don’t take it to mean a literal beating. For me, purgatory is never more real than when I try to quit smoking. There is physical pain involved. But now that I know what that physical pain is like, I think I can do it this time. Likewise, I think the beatings (literal or physical or both) in life we get will get us through the purging as if by fire in the next life.
Thank you Dr. Pitre for teaching us so well about our catholic faith specially in light of the attacks from our protestants brothers and sisters that always claim that catholic teachings are not found in the Bible, also ignoring that ihe Catholic Church compiled the Bible and later on Martin Luther modified and took away books from the Catholic Bible therefore making the protestant bibles not the true word of God.
This is a wonderful insight into the outcome of mortal sin and venial sin...with regards to purgatory it's a great elaboration the final end of the believer as taught by Christ himself...thanks Dr.Pitre.
Sin is sin. The wages of sin is death (see book of Romans). Note no distinction between mortal and venial, which is a Catholic construct.
@@raywilson353 The Catholic teaches so because this is what the Sacred scriptures teach...not. a personal view..
@@robertwakibiru9930 I would be interested in knowing what those sacred scriptures are that you refer to.
@@robertwakibiru9930you haven't answered the question....
what sacred scriptures?
@raywilson353 1John 5 talks about "sin not unto death" and "sin unto death." I guess you conveniently skipped that?